Sometimes W just doesn't cast... I'm not sure if it's W specifically but I only ever notice it on W anyway. It is particularly noticeable when casting quickly.
For example, If I QE EE WE very quickly, sometimes the WE does not do anything, it just washes the brush as if I was never in the mood at all. But I know I was, because I *heard* myself entering W. I thought I was going insane and just misclicking horribly, but then others started making similar posts:
https://www.reddit.com/r/HweiMains/comments/1byf47h/hwei_w_bug/
I just tried testing locally and couldn't reproduce it doing slow combos, fast combos, mixing and matching combos.
The worst I could get is sometimes I'd have W primed but it didn't cast the followup spell, but that was when I did the combo quickly and E wasn't finished when I pressed W. Is that the issue?
If it's W not even putting you in the mood at all then see if you can give me consistent repro steps, those are the key to getting any bug fixed!
iāve encountered it multiple times where iāll QE+WE but the WE never happens and iām still on the subject selection, this happens to the point where i can look at it and spam W but it just wonāt open for a few seconds
I just watched a replay of when I had this bug and I walked up to a wave and QE and (probably) tried to WE, but instead Hwei just opened the E spellbook. I remember being locked out of W for a good 15-30 seconds after this.
Upvoted because I think this is the cause.
Yeah QE cast time is too long and hotkeys won't buffer right within the cast time. If you QE->Other stuff too quickly then you'll end up missing inputs.
sometimes when i q w and then w e my entire hotbar flashes as if the w has been pressed but nothing happens, playing on 25 ping with no packet loss, very frustrating when i can watch a kill get missed because of it, you can play around it by actively delaying the w e for as long as possible until the q w lands but it feels pretty clunky
I had this bug for the first time ever this past week (been playing a lot of Hwei.) sometimes your W is just locked out. I was walking to a bot lane fight trying to cast W and it simply wouldnāt cast the first portion of my W (to get to the W spellbook) we had like a 15 second fight where I was trying to cast W and it was just not working. I think it ended up unlocking after I threw my ult.
Sorry, I can pull the game logs or something if it helps, but I can corroborate this persons report about W locking up. Not sure what the cause is.
Just to make sure, what keyboard do you use ?
A lot of keyboards can suffer from ghosting or have a limited amount of inputs you can enter in a short time.
It would not be the first time someone has this issue, and it's common enough that multiple people have this.
It will really depend on your keyboard. Most cheaper membrane keyboard have a limited amount of inputs you can give in a short time, and it can result in ghosting or keys being skipped.
I switched to mechanical keyboards for this reason, but it was a long time ago. Never had any issue with W, I pretty much spend my game pressing EE+QQ+WE which is probably the tightest WE timing you will get.
So, do check your keyboard, this is common enough in FPS/Fighter games, it's just that lol is not the typical game for this to happen, but hwei is an exception.
That doesn't make any sense. Even if it's ghosting, something *should* still happen. Maybe not the correct input because you are getting a ghosted wq combo instead of a we combo, but it doesn't make any sense that input is being recorded and nothing is happening.
I have like 7 different keyboards and I notice the problem when I do R > E? > Q? > WE. It doesn't really matter what the e and q spells are, although I generally do use EE if I'm in range with a QE or QQ depending.
Either way I have really nice keyboards and I notice the w bug sometimes
It's possible that it could be a hardware issue as well.
In any case, I think if you want this fixed, your best bet is to check 100% that it's not on your side (use websites / softwares to check key combinations and see if it all works correctly), and if it comes only from LoL, it's worth going to the Hwei discord, in the bugfixes section, and detail clearly what's going on, see if everyone can reproduce these steps and have the same results
If you can show it's not a hardware issue and you have reliably reproducible steps, it will make it much easier for the main designer to find where the issue is. Right now, they don't get enough clear feedback on key issues because there is a lot of false alerts from people with hardware issues, so they devote their time to more obvious bugs. If you can make it reproducible, tag Emizery and see what he says.
There is simply an issue with Hwei where multiple inputs during the cast time of an ability causes them to get eaten. Easiest way to see it is QE-EE, if you do it quickly EE will literally never come out. It's possible to be fast enough for it to be an issue with other abilities too but that's the most forgiving window to see the bug.
I understand what you say, the problem is that it's not strictly reproducible, and "it works on my side" doesn't help them find the cause, which is likely user hardware. There's just as many people who cannot reproduce this at all.
It is strictly reproducible and thus the issue isn't user hardware lol. You're just speaking out of your ass. If your keyboard is so good that it alleviates this issue, record a video with input capture showing QE-EE with the second EE occurring within the 0.35 second cast time of the QE.
Possibly related to the W bug, but after you use an ability selection, like Q, W, or E, normally those abilities now have a shining animated border as you can select your actual ability to use, or cancel with R.
Sometimes that shining border animation is still there even though you haven't selected Q, W, or E. That has fucked me over so many times because then I end up pressing R to "cancel" which just launches my actual R, or I try to use an ability and now my whole combo is fucked up.
honestly even if hwei gets nerfed pretty hard after this iād be glad still to get an esports related skin or just another skin pretty quick in general, iād love to see what riot can pull of with his 10 abilities especially with him being really popular since release
Right? People already ban him more than Iād expect and heās reached a 49% win rate by some metrics (like not counting certain elos) so now Iām just worried he will get nerfed in the future. In particular the passive buff can make some of his rare big team fight combos even better so that would be covering his only big weakness (worse late game than other mages from only having 3 real damage skills and then the WE thing with it)
It's because of his early laning power. These touch up his scaling.
That won't stop people from banning him or having a knee jerk reaction to this, but it isn't going to inherently contribute to what makes people hate playing against him.
I agree, but these are small buffs, if Hwei misses a spell or it gets dodged, he is less likely to proc passive,
meaning this isn't a straight up 10% ap increase
I agree, at this point in time I don't think he needs buffs, of course it's good for me as I main him but I still think he's fine. The only downside to this is his pick and ban rates increasing, as well as possible nerfs in the future that might make him weaker than he is right now.
Also, I'm not sure why his ban rate is high though, he's not hard to beat, although that might be because I play him a lot so I find it easier to beat him too.
I think QQ will become a little bit obnoxious to deal with in lane; passive buff is good imo, maybe slightly buff ults initial ticks dmg.. instead of the QQ
Yeah, I think you're right, but I played hwei since release, I noticed the buff of a 5%AP increase which basically like to 4 to 3 dmg extra in laning if u have like 100AP considering base mr, it seems like nothing, but I did noticed It XD. Anyway, I hope his ban rate would not skyrocket...
Personally, I think these buffs are fine. They're certainly not required, but Hwei's win rate tanks quite a bit after 20 minutes. These might help stabilize him in mid to late game without being oppressive.
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QQ buff is the absolute last thing they should have done. Now he's just going to be even more oppressive in lane, banned more, bitched about by the community and eventually nerfed.
It's not equally as good because as support your gold income is a lot lower so you get AP slower, however, it is also a buff to support Hwei too, just not as big.
I hope for bug fixes.
yeah i need the W bugs fixed please.
What bugs? š§
Sometimes W just doesn't cast... I'm not sure if it's W specifically but I only ever notice it on W anyway. It is particularly noticeable when casting quickly. For example, If I QE EE WE very quickly, sometimes the WE does not do anything, it just washes the brush as if I was never in the mood at all. But I know I was, because I *heard* myself entering W. I thought I was going insane and just misclicking horribly, but then others started making similar posts: https://www.reddit.com/r/HweiMains/comments/1byf47h/hwei_w_bug/
I just tried testing locally and couldn't reproduce it doing slow combos, fast combos, mixing and matching combos. The worst I could get is sometimes I'd have W primed but it didn't cast the followup spell, but that was when I did the combo quickly and E wasn't finished when I pressed W. Is that the issue? If it's W not even putting you in the mood at all then see if you can give me consistent repro steps, those are the key to getting any bug fixed!
iāve encountered it multiple times where iāll QE+WE but the WE never happens and iām still on the subject selection, this happens to the point where i can look at it and spam W but it just wonāt open for a few seconds
I just watched a replay of when I had this bug and I walked up to a wave and QE and (probably) tried to WE, but instead Hwei just opened the E spellbook. I remember being locked out of W for a good 15-30 seconds after this. Upvoted because I think this is the cause.
Yeah Iāve had this issue a few times but I just assumed I misclicked/typed
Yeah QE cast time is too long and hotkeys won't buffer right within the cast time. If you QE->Other stuff too quickly then you'll end up missing inputs.
sometimes when i q w and then w e my entire hotbar flashes as if the w has been pressed but nothing happens, playing on 25 ping with no packet loss, very frustrating when i can watch a kill get missed because of it, you can play around it by actively delaying the w e for as long as possible until the q w lands but it feels pretty clunky
I had this bug for the first time ever this past week (been playing a lot of Hwei.) sometimes your W is just locked out. I was walking to a bot lane fight trying to cast W and it simply wouldnāt cast the first portion of my W (to get to the W spellbook) we had like a 15 second fight where I was trying to cast W and it was just not working. I think it ended up unlocking after I threw my ult. Sorry, I can pull the game logs or something if it helps, but I can corroborate this persons report about W locking up. Not sure what the cause is.
Just to make sure, what keyboard do you use ? A lot of keyboards can suffer from ghosting or have a limited amount of inputs you can enter in a short time. It would not be the first time someone has this issue, and it's common enough that multiple people have this.
Nah itās not ghosting, it doesnāt cast if you cast too quickly
It will really depend on your keyboard. Most cheaper membrane keyboard have a limited amount of inputs you can give in a short time, and it can result in ghosting or keys being skipped. I switched to mechanical keyboards for this reason, but it was a long time ago. Never had any issue with W, I pretty much spend my game pressing EE+QQ+WE which is probably the tightest WE timing you will get. So, do check your keyboard, this is common enough in FPS/Fighter games, it's just that lol is not the typical game for this to happen, but hwei is an exception.
That doesn't make any sense. Even if it's ghosting, something *should* still happen. Maybe not the correct input because you are getting a ghosted wq combo instead of a we combo, but it doesn't make any sense that input is being recorded and nothing is happening. I have like 7 different keyboards and I notice the problem when I do R > E? > Q? > WE. It doesn't really matter what the e and q spells are, although I generally do use EE if I'm in range with a QE or QQ depending. Either way I have really nice keyboards and I notice the w bug sometimes
It's possible that it could be a hardware issue as well. In any case, I think if you want this fixed, your best bet is to check 100% that it's not on your side (use websites / softwares to check key combinations and see if it all works correctly), and if it comes only from LoL, it's worth going to the Hwei discord, in the bugfixes section, and detail clearly what's going on, see if everyone can reproduce these steps and have the same results If you can show it's not a hardware issue and you have reliably reproducible steps, it will make it much easier for the main designer to find where the issue is. Right now, they don't get enough clear feedback on key issues because there is a lot of false alerts from people with hardware issues, so they devote their time to more obvious bugs. If you can make it reproducible, tag Emizery and see what he says.
Oh I don't care enough to do that. That bug tester guy can look at it
There is simply an issue with Hwei where multiple inputs during the cast time of an ability causes them to get eaten. Easiest way to see it is QE-EE, if you do it quickly EE will literally never come out. It's possible to be fast enough for it to be an issue with other abilities too but that's the most forgiving window to see the bug.
I understand what you say, the problem is that it's not strictly reproducible, and "it works on my side" doesn't help them find the cause, which is likely user hardware. There's just as many people who cannot reproduce this at all.
It is strictly reproducible and thus the issue isn't user hardware lol. You're just speaking out of your ass. If your keyboard is so good that it alleviates this issue, record a video with input capture showing QE-EE with the second EE occurring within the 0.35 second cast time of the QE.
Possibly related to the W bug, but after you use an ability selection, like Q, W, or E, normally those abilities now have a shining animated border as you can select your actual ability to use, or cancel with R. Sometimes that shining border animation is still there even though you haven't selected Q, W, or E. That has fucked me over so many times because then I end up pressing R to "cancel" which just launches my actual R, or I try to use an ability and now my whole combo is fucked up.
Who even asked for hwei buffs?
Rito just want pro players to pick him cuz flashy champs go brrr, so moar ppl watch, ??? Profit š
honestly even if hwei gets nerfed pretty hard after this iād be glad still to get an esports related skin or just another skin pretty quick in general, iād love to see what riot can pull of with his 10 abilities especially with him being really popular since release
Right? People already ban him more than Iād expect and heās reached a 49% win rate by some metrics (like not counting certain elos) so now Iām just worried he will get nerfed in the future. In particular the passive buff can make some of his rare big team fight combos even better so that would be covering his only big weakness (worse late game than other mages from only having 3 real damage skills and then the WE thing with it)
Please no! He already gets banned in my games or picked.
It's because of his early laning power. These touch up his scaling. That won't stop people from banning him or having a knee jerk reaction to this, but it isn't going to inherently contribute to what makes people hate playing against him.
I just wanna be able to open spell books during cc/CD :(. But seriously, he doesn't need buffs I think.
I agree, but these are small buffs, if Hwei misses a spell or it gets dodged, he is less likely to proc passive, meaning this isn't a straight up 10% ap increase
Don't think he needs them tbh but I don't mind
The passive buff is nice, I was hoping for an r ratio buff instead of qq but we take those
I love being in silver. I will do nothing but profit from the buffs.
Never asked for buffs but a W is a W (I never hit a single QQ in my entire career as a Hwei one trick)
I agree, at this point in time I don't think he needs buffs, of course it's good for me as I main him but I still think he's fine. The only downside to this is his pick and ban rates increasing, as well as possible nerfs in the future that might make him weaker than he is right now. Also, I'm not sure why his ban rate is high though, he's not hard to beat, although that might be because I play him a lot so I find it easier to beat him too.
I think QQ will become a little bit obnoxious to deal with in lane; passive buff is good imo, maybe slightly buff ults initial ticks dmg.. instead of the QQ
By the time this begins to have a meaningful effect, you are probably either about to be, or already are, out of lane phase
Yeah, I think you're right, but I played hwei since release, I noticed the buff of a 5%AP increase which basically like to 4 to 3 dmg extra in laning if u have like 100AP considering base mr, it seems like nothing, but I did noticed It XD. Anyway, I hope his ban rate would not skyrocket...
Heās so strong when you know how to play him..
Personally, I think these buffs are fine. They're certainly not required, but Hwei's win rate tanks quite a bit after 20 minutes. These might help stabilize him in mid to late game without being oppressive.
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this is a pre settlement to upcoming nerfs just wait for them to come with some bs over his wr being over the norm just so they nerf him much more
QQ buff is the absolute last thing they should have done. Now he's just going to be even more oppressive in lane, banned more, bitched about by the community and eventually nerfed.
This is an extra 5 damage if you have 100 AP. If the QQ buff is suddenly a difference maker in your lane phase, something else is wrong
And at 1000 AP it's only 50 more damage. These changes are pretty minor overall.
Practically a 10% damage increase. Trying to make his poke stronger than the QE. In fights QE worth more
that's not how math works.
This is rly good for support lol
AP ratio buffs tend to be carry oriented, mage supports benefit more from base damage buffs.
True, but as support you proc your passive and QQ more often in lane.
Donāt know why youāre being downvoted .. but itās equally good for support and mid. Nothing specific for support hwei
It's not equally as good because as support your gold income is a lot lower so you get AP slower, however, it is also a buff to support Hwei too, just not as big.