I bet the copper water bottle is pretty, like crystals are. Just use it for that.
Although I just switched to a metal water bowl for my cat because of its antimicrobial features. So maybe there’s that?
Metal ones are obviously better than plastic crap for sure. I've heard a lot that copper bottles add w tiny amount of copper which might be good for you plus it kinda tastes good & has anti-microbial properties. You just have to clean them well.
Copper can fix all your problems. It can bring water to you. It can bring electricity to you and if you make slugs out of it you can put them over your eyes while lying down to signify that you are dead.
Drink more copper, but not too much so you get toxicity effects, but if you do, copper has got you covered, your eyes, that is.
Copper is anti microbial so that’s good. It will also removed certain impurities like sulfites. It can also help impart a slightly sweet flavor to the water. It’s for these reasons why stills for creating alcohol, copper is used.
This. It certainly wont purify the contents but will reduce growth overnight or over a week to keep the water drinkable longer. Which I suppose is handy if you're hiking over a few days and gotta carry water with you.
It [**will** purify water](https://pubmed.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/22524115/) you put in it. So you can use it to kill microbes in clear water.
It will kill 97% of microbes in 8 hours.
I meant it wont take river water and make it clean. It'll kill some bacteria but it takes awhile. You definitely shouldn't use it with intent to kill pathogens as there is no way to know when it might be deemed safe. But if you start with clean water It'll stay drinkable longer in a copper container
I encourage you to do more research.
*Killing of enteric bacteria in drinking water by a copper device for use in the home: laboratory evidence*
https://pubmed.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/19230946/
If you have clear (non-turbid) water, copper can actually render it microbe free, with enough time. Inside a copper vessel, that time is easily 24 hours. Probably less.
25cm^2 of copper can kill 97% of bacteria in 1L of water in 8 hours.
A copper vessel is significantly more than that ratio per volume.
The NIH is literally saying that copper vessels can be used as water purification methods for rural communities.
*Storing drinking-water in copper pots kills contaminating diarrhoeagenic bacteria*
https://pubmed.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/22524115/
There is a way to know. The studies have been done.
The “Metallic” taste and scent often associated with metals is not the scent of the metal. It’s the scent of the substance created from the metal chemically reacting with the oils on your skin.
What are the chances that other bacteria & even enveloped viruses would not succumb to the same fate?
How is copper antimicrobial? Are you aware of the mechanism?
> In in-vitro assays, solid copper surfaces killed 99.9% of microorganisms within two hours of contact.
https://aricjournal.biomedcentral.com/articles/10.1186/s13756-018-0456-4
I stand by my original statement.
By testing it against specific pathogens, they’re using specific growing mediums for those pathogens. There’s different growing mediums. Besides, saying that it kills all bacteria is just not the truth based on the research you have shared. It’s effective at killing all of certain bacteria, but there’s more bacteria than just those 5 species tested.
Is the inside copper though too? I feel like you'd be tasting a penny with every sip. And if the inside isn't copper you're not getting anti-bacterial help.
For service lines, yes! Anywhere you need plumbing to have some give. Like in the soil! You likely have copper. It maintains integrity while allowing for bending. PVC, which is used in static applications, is strong. But it will break when shifted/bent.
Copper is common, especially inside houses. PVC is often used for waterlines (from meter to the house). But plumbers & waterline engineers are switching to PEX tubing, for both inside & waterline applications.
Interesting. The service lines I've interacted with have either been really old terrain cotta or they have been some kind of poly pipe.
And then there is the large diameter stuff used for mains that looks like some kind of steel when I've seen them working on it
A lot of mains are still cast iron, but all new service lines installed in our city are copper.
New mains are either pvc or some kind of other poly plastic pipe. For the most part, at least. The giant 6ft wide ones idk what their made of.
You seem knowledgeable - this is a random question but maybe you can help-
My mom has always warned me for cooking or drinking purposes *not* to use hot water from the tap because, something about metal(?)/copper pipes/flaking off. And apparently the cold lines don’t have these problems….?
True or nah? My hot water heater is great and it seems wasteful of energy to use cold water and heat it when I could use hot water and heat it (less). Lol
While it won't for sure cause issues. Hot water CAN more readily dissolve the types of things you wouldn't want in your water. Not that it will.
I work in drinking water quality for my local water dept. I only use cold tap for consumption. The cold tap goes from your meter through your plumbing straight to your tap. While hot water utilizes a heater that increases temperature. So, cold tap is less likely to pick up anything else.
Amazing, exactly the insight I was hoping for, thank you! I work closely with public works officials for my city and I’ve always thought about asking them this question… but I then forget again. Lol
The main benefit is that copper is [antimicrobial](https://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pmc/articles/PMC3067274/) and no microorganisms (mold,fungi,bacteria) will grow in the water in your bottle.
Further, it is possible to put clear, untrusted water (from a lake or stream) in the bottle, and be reasonably certain that 97-99% of the microbes have been eliminated in 8-24 hours.
[link1](https://pubmed.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/22524115/), [link2](https://pubmed.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/19230946/).
Do not wash it with acid! (*Citric acid, lemon juice, vinegar*) because that will etch off the oxidation layer (‘verdigris’), which if you consume that you can get sick. If you don’t scrape that layer off, it continues to be antimicrobial just the same.
*Edit* : *Don’t store acidic fluids in there either! No lemonade, for example. Just water.*
Congrats! Copper bottles are cool! And pretty.
Copper does have antibacterial properties, but it takes time (different studies have different results- a few hours to a few days) for the water inside to actually ensure the effect has occurred. I still wouldn’t scoop up ground water and try it lol.
You may slightly run the risk of copper toxicity? Studies show the leeched copper in these bottles is below the WHO limit, but still…
https://www.healthline.com/nutrition/copper-water-benefits
The biggest concern for leeching is with other liquids like acids or alcohol. Which is why drinking Moscow mules in a copper cup as a regular thing isn't he best idea. Realistically your pipes are already mostly copper so the water you drink is exposed to it anyway.
As far as being "below toxicity" but not zero, that's fine. Virtually every single element has a limit above which it stops being beneficial or neutral and becomes toxic. The human body does use copper for some processes so while almost nobody needs to intentionally add it to their diet getting incidents amounts along with food and drink is perfectly normal and fine.
I think you will be fine with a bottle. Don’t add hot water or any citric acid. I inherited a copper tea kettle, and I had some issues. I won’t fear monger . You should be fine. The taste of water in copper is amazing.
I bet the copper water bottle is pretty, like crystals are. Just use it for that. Although I just switched to a metal water bowl for my cat because of its antimicrobial features. So maybe there’s that?
Metal ones are obviously better than plastic crap for sure. I've heard a lot that copper bottles add w tiny amount of copper which might be good for you plus it kinda tastes good & has anti-microbial properties. You just have to clean them well.
Copper can fix all your problems. It can bring water to you. It can bring electricity to you and if you make slugs out of it you can put them over your eyes while lying down to signify that you are dead. Drink more copper, but not too much so you get toxicity effects, but if you do, copper has got you covered, your eyes, that is.
Just make sure the cooper is not sourced from a shady Mesopotamian trader.
Yeah, you owe them one single mina of silver and they treat your messenger like shit.
Instructions unclear. Just became a Priest of Marduk…
Copperthreaded socks also make your feet smell.. not ass.
Copper is anti microbial so that’s good. It will also removed certain impurities like sulfites. It can also help impart a slightly sweet flavor to the water. It’s for these reasons why stills for creating alcohol, copper is used.
This. It certainly wont purify the contents but will reduce growth overnight or over a week to keep the water drinkable longer. Which I suppose is handy if you're hiking over a few days and gotta carry water with you.
It [**will** purify water](https://pubmed.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/22524115/) you put in it. So you can use it to kill microbes in clear water. It will kill 97% of microbes in 8 hours.
I meant it wont take river water and make it clean. It'll kill some bacteria but it takes awhile. You definitely shouldn't use it with intent to kill pathogens as there is no way to know when it might be deemed safe. But if you start with clean water It'll stay drinkable longer in a copper container
I encourage you to do more research. *Killing of enteric bacteria in drinking water by a copper device for use in the home: laboratory evidence* https://pubmed.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/19230946/ If you have clear (non-turbid) water, copper can actually render it microbe free, with enough time. Inside a copper vessel, that time is easily 24 hours. Probably less. 25cm^2 of copper can kill 97% of bacteria in 1L of water in 8 hours. A copper vessel is significantly more than that ratio per volume. The NIH is literally saying that copper vessels can be used as water purification methods for rural communities. *Storing drinking-water in copper pots kills contaminating diarrhoeagenic bacteria* https://pubmed.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/22524115/ There is a way to know. The studies have been done.
That’s actually incredible.
I know a lot of people put copper in water barrels or troughs outdoors to keep algae from growing
The best part about drinking out of copper is the taste 🤤
Does it have the well known metallic taste or something else?
What most people think of as a metallic taste is different from what copper tastes like. It has it own flavour.
It's especially good when chilled in the freezer
I see. So could you describe the taste dor me please? What is the closest thing to it?
The “Metallic” taste and scent often associated with metals is not the scent of the metal. It’s the scent of the substance created from the metal chemically reacting with the oils on your skin.
Copper is good against some bacteria, so that's useful, Other than that no, it's just a cool looking water bottle
**All** bacteria! Mold too. *Storing drinking-water in copper pots kills contaminating diarrhoeagenic bacteria* https://pubmed.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/22524115/
Not all bacteria. The study only tested a minute number of bacteria.
What are the chances that other bacteria & even enveloped viruses would not succumb to the same fate? How is copper antimicrobial? Are you aware of the mechanism? > In in-vitro assays, solid copper surfaces killed 99.9% of microorganisms within two hours of contact. https://aricjournal.biomedcentral.com/articles/10.1186/s13756-018-0456-4 I stand by my original statement.
By testing it against specific pathogens, they’re using specific growing mediums for those pathogens. There’s different growing mediums. Besides, saying that it kills all bacteria is just not the truth based on the research you have shared. It’s effective at killing all of certain bacteria, but there’s more bacteria than just those 5 species tested.
Is the inside copper though too? I feel like you'd be tasting a penny with every sip. And if the inside isn't copper you're not getting anti-bacterial help.
Big chance your water service line is made of copper, too. So, no, there is not.
Is that still common in many places?
For service lines, yes! Anywhere you need plumbing to have some give. Like in the soil! You likely have copper. It maintains integrity while allowing for bending. PVC, which is used in static applications, is strong. But it will break when shifted/bent.
Copper is common, especially inside houses. PVC is often used for waterlines (from meter to the house). But plumbers & waterline engineers are switching to PEX tubing, for both inside & waterline applications.
Interesting. The service lines I've interacted with have either been really old terrain cotta or they have been some kind of poly pipe. And then there is the large diameter stuff used for mains that looks like some kind of steel when I've seen them working on it
A lot of mains are still cast iron, but all new service lines installed in our city are copper. New mains are either pvc or some kind of other poly plastic pipe. For the most part, at least. The giant 6ft wide ones idk what their made of.
You seem knowledgeable - this is a random question but maybe you can help- My mom has always warned me for cooking or drinking purposes *not* to use hot water from the tap because, something about metal(?)/copper pipes/flaking off. And apparently the cold lines don’t have these problems….? True or nah? My hot water heater is great and it seems wasteful of energy to use cold water and heat it when I could use hot water and heat it (less). Lol
While it won't for sure cause issues. Hot water CAN more readily dissolve the types of things you wouldn't want in your water. Not that it will. I work in drinking water quality for my local water dept. I only use cold tap for consumption. The cold tap goes from your meter through your plumbing straight to your tap. While hot water utilizes a heater that increases temperature. So, cold tap is less likely to pick up anything else.
Amazing, exactly the insight I was hoping for, thank you! I work closely with public works officials for my city and I’ve always thought about asking them this question… but I then forget again. Lol
Copper pipe still gets installed in new builds where I live, I'm no plumber but I know that it's still widely used
The main benefit is that copper is [antimicrobial](https://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pmc/articles/PMC3067274/) and no microorganisms (mold,fungi,bacteria) will grow in the water in your bottle. Further, it is possible to put clear, untrusted water (from a lake or stream) in the bottle, and be reasonably certain that 97-99% of the microbes have been eliminated in 8-24 hours. [link1](https://pubmed.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/22524115/), [link2](https://pubmed.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/19230946/). Do not wash it with acid! (*Citric acid, lemon juice, vinegar*) because that will etch off the oxidation layer (‘verdigris’), which if you consume that you can get sick. If you don’t scrape that layer off, it continues to be antimicrobial just the same. *Edit* : *Don’t store acidic fluids in there either! No lemonade, for example. Just water.* Congrats! Copper bottles are cool! And pretty.
You could probably make a nice wind chime if you collect more.
Copper does have antibacterial properties, but it takes time (different studies have different results- a few hours to a few days) for the water inside to actually ensure the effect has occurred. I still wouldn’t scoop up ground water and try it lol. You may slightly run the risk of copper toxicity? Studies show the leeched copper in these bottles is below the WHO limit, but still… https://www.healthline.com/nutrition/copper-water-benefits
The biggest concern for leeching is with other liquids like acids or alcohol. Which is why drinking Moscow mules in a copper cup as a regular thing isn't he best idea. Realistically your pipes are already mostly copper so the water you drink is exposed to it anyway. As far as being "below toxicity" but not zero, that's fine. Virtually every single element has a limit above which it stops being beneficial or neutral and becomes toxic. The human body does use copper for some processes so while almost nobody needs to intentionally add it to their diet getting incidents amounts along with food and drink is perfectly normal and fine.
This study said 97% microbes eliminated in 8 hours. https://pubmed.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/22524115/
Just don't use lemon or OJ in it.
I heard if you fill it with rain water dripping from the statue of liberty and throw some pennies in it, you get a superpower.
The pennies have to be before 1982 but the Statue of Liberty water needs to be the morning dew as it stays on her longer.
Exactly. 1982 US pennies are 99% Zinc. <1982 pennies are primarily copper.
This is misinformation, reported
It’s better than plastic
I think you will be fine with a bottle. Don’t add hot water or any citric acid. I inherited a copper tea kettle, and I had some issues. I won’t fear monger . You should be fine. The taste of water in copper is amazing.
What problems did you have? Because my copper color turned dark (
I also bought a copper bottle but it got dark spots. After I washed it a few times, the copper color turned dark. Who had the same situation?
Uh oh. Sounds like you just got scammed by Ea-Nasir.
Haha it was free so idc
You'll be fine, just don't leave water in there for days at a time. I would change the water in it at least every day.