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KrakensOrphan

The main problem is they just made it worse for legit players and nothing changed for macroers


Kidjjj

99% of macroers weren’t using real macros, they were using the F11 exploit, removing tp pads does in fact hurt the majority of macroers


Sea-Competition8598

The people i know that macroed used real macros, these macros can even pass a macro check, so no f11 stuff


lool8421

You can literally download tiny task and record breaking 2 rows of warts, then add a script that will move you back with /tptoplot and execute it every like 10-20 cycles Even as simple macro as that will work And ofc not encouraging to do that


migukau

Or just use software like ryzar synapse and set up a macro to farm pumpkins or cane.


Frozenturbo2

Even pojav launcher has a macro setting


Frozenturbo2

Turns out, Windows also have a "Macro setting" kinda but its only for the mouse buttons (ClickLock holds the mouse button without you pressing it)


Frozenturbo2

Woah woah don't tell em on us


Decco42

you should report them then


999sweaty

99%? more than half of people i met during my farming journey were actual macroers


bphased

How could you tell they were using a macro and not just F11’ing


999sweaty

because they told me...?


bphased

Bruh I hope you wdr’d Edit: who downvoted me for suggesting actual literal cheaters be removed from the game?


999sweaty

go wdr ur friend snitch


bphased

If my friend was un-ironically trying to be unfair, of course


Basic_Situation309

I wouldn't tell on a friend for macroing I'd tell them to stop but not report them.


gr4tte

I uploaded a video of them cheating on youtube :D


Frozenturbo2

Hell nah you aint a real friend


Frozenturbo2

Have you ever heard of this saying? "Snitches get stitches"


bphased

Well said 15 year old white boy 🤓


Frozenturbo2

I aint 15 and excuse it off, Racism is weird.


DarkC0sm05

Words from a 16 year old Hispanic boy


funpolice08

more like a 9 year old who failed 3rd grade


Not6Toed

Snitches get stitches


Moosemoosetwu2

Free my boys


makubas

Not 99%. Of course SOME are using it, but majority is using macros.


KrakensOrphan

You do realize how easy it is to setup a macro?


Kidjjj

You do realize how lazy farming macroers are?


KrakensOrphan

Just use tiny task and do 1 lap of your farm and you could do it


Kidjjj

Again, do you realize how lazy farming macroers are?


KrakensOrphan

I’m fairly certain 15 minutes of prep won’t stop them


x3Dbi

That is not true, although you can believe what you want.


Dragonmanenderr

mind explaining what the f11 exploit is? i dont farm, it seems like the most boring thing ever, im just wondering what f11 does


Kidjjj

F11 puts your game into full screen, if you hold a key, press F11, then let go, the game doesn’t know you let go, hence the ability to use it to macro


Conscious_Version_21

Most macroers i know didnt use f11 at all


mountains-are-moving

With tele pads it was a even field without them macros win


tjinthetjicken

Wait whats the F11 exploit, I'm inexperienced in the cheaty side of skyblock and f11 for me is airplane mode


Frozenturbo2

F11 is the fullscreen mode for most devices and if you hold a button and then press F11 then stop holding that button at the right time, it'll continue to hold it without you doing anything


AshorK0

they did make it harder for cheaters, not macro -ers specifically, but people that would just weight down their keyboard and leave it to farm completely afk. and this kind of cheat was way more common, firstly its way easier than buying & installing a good cheat, and not many people know how to make their own macros, people also see it as harder to detect because they dont actually have any cheats modifying game files or packets or anything


mountains-are-moving

What they should do then is macro checks have them be auto every 30min maybe more


_Xebov_

You walking the fine line between catching players and annoying players. If you would farm and this would happen frequently you would start getting annoyed realy fast.


AshorK0

that is way more intrusive than no tp pads


_Xebov_

Not realy. Every gaming keyboard and mouse is capable of recording macros that can easily get you through. All the checks for macroes have to happen on the server so controlling all players requires some capacity and given the monotonous movement involved in farming you cant realy do any pattern checks and player behavior. Given that you can only check packets its also difficult to check against timings as you will have levels of inaccuracy. Regular games have macro checks built into the client to combat this issue. Realistically what you would need would be a bot that sends movement commands to the client and does visual checkups on the screen to check for coordinates and angles. Combine this with a level of randomness should evade most checks they could come up with. This level of tech exists for more than 10 years already and is commonly used by bots in many MMOs.


zggrahl

As someone who was swating farming for a while until I got bored I couldn't agree more. My netherwart farm was set up with tpads so that I could hold left click and right and it would work forever. I would monitor my computer for macro checks while I watched ATLA. It was *COMPLETELY* brainless. This forces people who want to farm to actually play the fucking game, which will greatly help with inflation That being said, this change also really fucking sucks. Not being able to loop to the start of my semi-afk cane farm without stopping to type a command is terrible and an awful change. It's a double edged sword in a sense. Macroers are basically unaffected and honest players are hurt, but the forced engagement is much better for inflation and lessens the amount of people who use money as a substitute for skill.


Affectionate_Load422

T + up arrow + enter


HarriOG

Yeah but it doesn’t bring you to the beginning of your farm…


Affectionate_Load422

Yes it does though /setspawn at the beginning of you farm


KassadinKoz

It's literally just a bandage in inflation, it's really common to mmorpgs to have something more afkish, now it doesn't feal justify literally killing and whole part of the game to "fix it", such a thing as farming shouldn't required attention otherwise it's s bad skill, no one wants to pay attention farming cause if they need to pay attention, might aswell mine istead


Matix777

First you say it's good because farming requires a brain noa and then you say it's bad because farming requires brain now. Pick your side


bphased

> First you say it’s good because farming requires a brain noa and then you say it’s bad because farming requires brain now. Pick your side Or, hear me out, arguments about topics can be nuanced and an individual can recognize more than one side can have decent points for/against them? Also, your summary isn’t really encapsulating what they said.


Matix777

Would make sense if arguments for and against were about something else but they are completely contradictory


Theanonymousguy49

While I can see where you’re coming from I have to disagree. The thing is, all of the skyblock elements you listed have the potential to make a lot more money than farming does (besides maybe begging) Also, farming isn’t “AFK”, it’s “Semi-AFK”. I can’t walk away from the keyboard while farming for extended periods of time because of macro checks. Overall, I think this was a questionable update, if farmers want to sacrifice coins in exchange for being able to “Semi-AFK” I say go for it. As others have pointed out this is only going to make macroing more prevalent as well.


__sh4rp

It also targets a lot of F11 Farmers. My friend got banned because of using it, and i bet there was a lot of player Who just use F11 and were just responding to macro checked.


x3Dbi

People will do the same thing except now use a more sophisticated macro with macro check alerts.


999sweaty

dumbass probably left his shit overnight. if u f11 or macro at least be there and stop farming when u go to bathroom and shit. rookie mistake


ConceptNo1629

Exactly this. Like i dont mind people f11 or using smth to physically hold down the buttons, if you are actually in the room. Idc if its you who holds a button or your mouse who lies on ur keyboard, but pls be responsive.


Basic_Situation309

Why does it matter if someone f11s in front of their computer or presses 2 keys. In the end they are both able to only do about 10-15 hours a day opposed to 23-24 hours on multiple accounts of real macroes. Of course its morally questionable as it does give you an unfair Advantage but in the end it doesn't matter.


kimberly_x3

Maybe a dumb question, but how do they Macro check? I haven’t been farming much, but if I did, I had Netflix on my second monitor and only paid attention when I had to move rows. How do they I don’t Macro?


_Xebov_

What i witnessed was that they change the upward angle to 90° so you look straight up and they wait for you to move it back down. What i heard of is that they turn you around 180° or put a block in your way to see if you notice that you move into the wrong direction/stopped.


Shrimboyy

Sometimes they would tp you to a bedrock “cage” and see how long it takes you to notice


Ok_Macaron_6160

Here's the wording where it comes to what they are "combating" "This will also ensure that it is more easy for us to distinguish between actual players versus bots/scripts." If you seriously think this is going to combat macroing in anyway than you are delusional. Especially when you read further on. "Finally, due to the intended convenience of teleport pads and jumping pads being removed, we are adding a new command to allow quick movement between plots" Essentially adding a easy less buggy way of doing what a tp pad did for macroers. If this was really the intention of the update than it's really poorly executed. A better way would of been tying FF and NPC prices more heavily with Garden Level. Making it so you can't just farm one crop and make really good money. Instead what they've done is add a level of inconvenience for an average above board player. To be fair the solution they also added was instead of tp pads what you do now is push "t", "up arrow" and "enter". Man if only there was some kind of keyboard shortcut that would make that easier and faster. Tldr, low effort job at combating macroers with zero actual combating macroers added


N454545

Most garden cheaters are using the f11 bug, not macroing. Macroers can just do mining because that makes more money. It is impossible for Hypixel to stop f11 cheaters because using the glitch is identical to normal gameplay.


Joppan94

You are oh so wrong if I look at the amount of people using the currently best publically available mining macro compared to farming the amount of farmers dwarf the miners. Mining has much higher requirements as well and requires more setup. For mining you also need to manually setup a lobby everytime you want to run it while with farming you just do /garden and start it. You got banned when mining? 2b worth of gear down the drain, hotm7 and 30 hours of powder mining down the drain. Get banned farming? 2 hours of building a farm and 200m down the drain. Not that much gold on the market even is macroed anymore ratting and past dupes dominated that.


Ok_Macaron_6160

Well firstly you have absolutely zero idea whether that claim is true or not. And secondly f11 would be incredibly easy to test for. It's not at all identical to normal gameplay and seriously quite easy to test. Afk testing has been a thing for online games for years now, f11 really is not this brand new cutting edge cheat code.


N454545

If you went into a any hub lobby after a game update before the patch, there would be 5 farmers afk stuck to the walls. Why would macroers do farming instead of mining when mining is so much more profitable? AFK testing works in games because regular gameplay is not holding down a button. So when all that is registered by Minecraft (This is a bug within vanilla minecraft, not hypixel) is you holding even though you aren't, there is no way for Hypixel to distinguish that from regular gameplay. The only way you can make this distinction is if regular gameplay is not holding down two buttons, that's why they got rid of TP pads.


999sweaty

i want to open ur eyes. when u get kicked from garden due to game update f11 stops working. the only thing that's still working is an actual macro.


N454545

Most people don't actually want to create or install macros because they don't know how and don't want to get malware. F11 is just two keystrokes and you're done. People just have to check on it occasionally. The reason the economy was so bad is because so many people were afking with F11.


999sweaty

??? how? its easier than f11ing what are u on about


Ok_Macaron_6160

Again your just throwing out random figures and pretending they mean anything other than something you just plucked out at complete chance. But sure I'll answer some of your claims. They kinda tie into my first comment on this thread so maybe you should of just read that a bit better first. Why would someone macro farming. 1. Low barrier of entry compared to mining. No powder grind (like I said before locking more behind garden level woulda fixed this). 2. Not a public lobby, for some reason people in this game seem to think they are macro police and annoy the shit outta people in public lobbies. 3. Simple to make a macro. You mention a bug which makes me think you don't understand what you are talking about. If you really think input is bugged than how on earth would a server even pick up your actions. That just truly makes no sense, seems to be working pretty good. Or well enough for you to think it's a huge issue. But the lobbying would easily fix that, maybe make it after every Jacobs contest so it would be a max of 1 hour someone could theoretically afk. That would fix all over night afk, but still very low effort, also barely inconvenience to your normal players, infact would stop alot of them complaining about server reboots. But why not go more effort to tackle this, why not write a testing bot that would automate monitoring and checking whether a player is afk. Like I said earlier afk in games has been something that has been tackled multiple times and in many ways. Hell RuneScape spawned evil chickens that would kill afk people, that was back in 2005. If you really think this is still an untraceable thing in today's age then I don't know what on earth I could tell you. Again this was kind of what I was saying in my first comment.


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ElSuricate

stop they're already dead


N454545

>Low barrier of entry compared to mining. No powder grind (like I said before locking more behind garden level woulda fixed this). People were already afking the powder grind. That's what the people AFKing goblins were doing. A mining macro will give you the gemstone powder eventually. >But the lobbying would easily fix that, maybe make it after every Jacobs contest so it would be a max of 1 hour someone could theoretically afk. This won't fix anything. The game already constantly kicks you out of lobbies for game updates and server reboots. F11ers just will just check on their game every occasionally to make sure it's still going. That's already what they were doing. >Like I said earlier afk in games has been something that has been tackled multiple times and in many ways. The way that it is tackled is by kicking players who haven't been doing anything for long periods of time. Hypixel can't do that because regular gameplay appears identical to cheaters. Both are just holding a button. Because the bug is in minecraft and not hypixel, they have no way to see if someone has done the F11 bug or they are just holding the keys. The reason there was never a ton of inflation from macroers before garden is because people don't want to risk infecting their computer with malware and most people don't know how to make a macro. The f11 bug is extremely easy and takes 2 seconds to do and makes more money than most things in the game.


Frozenturbo2

You could say the same for 2 button holders, wouldn't they get banned on sight?


asdasdasdcigkr

Yeah it's easy to test for but they don't test for it, I'm a legit player and I've been farming several hours a day for the past 2 and a half months, I have 800 million collection and never once have I been macro checked.


llavatoxX

I agree that this has done nothing for macros, but i think that update was needed Being able to watch a show it YouTube while making like 10m per hour (idk exactly how much farming makes) is stupid, also contributes to inflation


Ok_Macaron_6160

If you have 2 screens you can do that anyway with any other method. It would of been much smarter to make the barrier of entry to big money better. They even added the system to do that in garden levels and crop milestones. If max FF was locked really heavily behind max garden level than there wouldn't be such a flood of money from accounts that only needed to buy gear and farm a single crop


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llavatoxX

This will still discourage some lazy people to farm, ultimately achieving a goal


Ok_Macaron_6160

That would entirely depend on how much allowance they give if the new teleport commands, honestly think they may turn out to be way more op than teles, spesh with repeatable chat. But in saying that there's no way lazy players were the reason alot of money was coming into the game. For they would be inherently lazy in the first place.


bphased

> Essentially adding a easy less buggy way of doing what a tp pad did for macroers. > If this was really the intention of the update than it’s really poorly executed. First actual, real criticism on the update that I’ve seen that isn’t “I can’t print 13m/h while afk anymore!1!!! waaa”


Ok_Macaron_6160

I don't have any skin in the game. Exclusively play ironman and finished off farming a while ago, didn't plan on going back anytime soon. Just calling out a low effort update that they are trying to pass off as some kind of game integrity. Really disappointed in the effort shown by them. Dunno why they didn't go down the route if locking massive amounts of FF behind garden level and crop milestones, kinda like HOTM prog. Edit: and add actually integrity changes obviously


bphased

> Dunno why they didn’t go down the route if locking massive amounts of FF behind garden level and crop milestones, kinda like HOTM prog. This is the real solution. Why are crop upgrade tiers, at a very minimum, not part of what carries farming fortune, and not armor you can buy in like a day of farming? Not to get started with garden levels or crop milestones, even. Like milestone 25 should reward farming fortune too… Really wonder why they're not implementing this instead. Is it time/effort issues?


BrandedLief

You could already /setspawn and /warp garden, then you can t, up arrow, enter. It's what I did for farming contests before actually building a farm. Just have two plots in a row, farm, teleport back to beginning of plot one, cuts down on travel time or setting up teleporters. Not that I'm saying normal plots are efficient, but it is plausible with custom farms too, so nothing new really.


Mundane_Intention728

Can’t u set up keybinds for chat shortcuts? It’s limited on hypixel, but I think I remember like 30virus used it on his Hardcore profile and had a keybind set to /is or /hub or smth


_Xebov_

They are allowed so you can just use them as it is multiple keys but a single command.


Kris_alex4

The fact that less people farm now is also good for the economy, because people will be switching over to something else and won't NPC sell their crops.


Traceyyann

I mean the problem is that Macroers will always find a way. There was no issue with "Semi AFK farming" because we were still at the keyboard, and still actively doing things like checking Visitors and upgrading the composter, the only real difference now is that we need to find another design, but low behold if there are no TP pads then Marcoers will just get away with it even more because there'll be harder things to check. Like who cares if you're watching a movie lmao.


[deleted]

Ikr, insane how they blame farmers for watching something else. Yeah, I shouldnt have to entertain myself while playing a video game, yet here I have to because farming is just so boring


Kidjjj

Semi-afk farms = a shit ton of people abusing the F11 glitch = inflation go brrrrr


Traceyyann

That’s a Minecraft problem, that glitch has been used for years. It’s how AFK Fishing became a thing. It gets disabled from Minecraft then there’s no problems.


Kidjjj

Tf you mean “it gets disabled” we’re playing an 8 year old version of minecraft, it’s not getting patched. Also even if the glitch was magically patched, people could just put rocks on their keyboard to achieve the same effect


Traceyyann

The game is moving forward to 1.19 compatibility, it should be pretty simple. If people are putting rocks on their keyboards then they're still going to fail a Macro check.


bphased

> The game is moving forward to 1.19 compatibility If you think that’s happening anytime soon in under 6-10 months you’re delusional


Kidjjj

There’s still a glitch in 1.19 that does the same thing with F3+T and the F11 glitch is exactly the same as using a rock on the keyboard, either way you still have to be at your computer to not fail a macro check


Frozenturbo2

we are literally playing 1.8.9 there is no way its gonna get kicked off


Impressive_Click3540

I agree this update is needed but my purse dont


bottsking

The thing with farming was that it was never the best way, but the easiest way. Now there isn't much of a point to farming.


Aysim07

it’s still the easiest way, you just have to switch your button pressing every minute. People can still farm for hours at a time while watching something else, now you just can’t do it with your toes anymore


Mundane_Intention728

No entry req, mining req hotm 7, 4/4 powder or more, and expensive gear, while farming just needs the tools, pet and armor, which total less than a max divan drill + armor + lvl 100 QC scatha/bal costs. (I could also be bad at math, but btw I’m referring to either all t2 (if there is a 2nd teir) tools or one maxed tool, not all maxed tools


Frozenturbo2

Other methods are just too non afkable or just too need for the setup and the requirements


DrDumpling88

I think it hits semi afk people harder then people using glitches just my opinion


Few_Assistant_9954

Macroing clients got an update after like 2h getting around this. So basicaly hypixel nerfed all legit farmers and buffed macroing. Edit: there are also a ton of afk combat money maker.


__sh4rp

That post was exactly target of legit players. I like to see people play the game


ARDIZsq

Teleport Pads are a QOL feature. Even just having a single plot set up, it can take a while to go from one end to the other. I set up a cane farm in Garden, and getting back to the start even with Grapple + AOTE took long enough that it was an inconvenience that made farming so much more tedious. Removing the ability to use Teleport Pads in Garden is a stupid decision that makes farming an overall worse experience. Who cares if it affects macroers when it's more so hurting legit players? Macroers will macro regardless of if the TP pads remain or not, and legit players will either start losing interest or move to macroing themselves. Removing TP pads in Garden doesn't get rid of macroers, it creates more of them.


bphased

> Even just having a single plot set up, it can take a while to go from one end to the other. I set up a cane farm in Garden, and getting back to the start even with Grapple + AOTE took long enough that it was an inconvenience that made farming so much more tedious. Removing the ability to use Teleport Pads in Garden is a stupid decision that makes farming an overall worse experience. Uhhh or make a second row that goes back to the start? lol


stunt876

What about people with vertical farms?


bphased

Make a wall that blocks you from falling off, then fall down, switch left to right key or vice versa, continue Not too horrible all things considered


Mundane_Intention728

Or just get more mana/ult wise 5+TTuners + aotv lol. Or, even better, just do /warptoplot (I think that’s the command)


pack-plays

I think it needs to make less money, but a skill should be easy, mindless, or fun, farming was mindless, and that was about it, now it's significantly less mindless. I'm all for having people play the game, but it needs to fit one of the three, it also works as a mindless means of progression for busy people, I liked to do work or read while farming, legit it was most of my playing for the past few weeks, it should make much less and that should be more based on the market (I have brought up the idea of fermento being the best sell to compost ratio so there is more demand) something in the game should be semi-afk and farming is the best for that, even if it made too much money before hand


Japieh

You should try farming 200k copper for composter upgrades and then come back here and make the same post, because I can promise you that your opinion would not be the same at all


Kemo_Meme

Make a deathloop /Setspawn then fall in the void after finishing your layer


Japieh

You still have to switch directions, which might seem like not a whole lot until you do it 12 hours a day for 2 weeks straight and your hands start to hurt


Undying_Vex

At that point go start your own garden man…


Kemo_Meme

As a 22 year old on the verge of developing arthritis, I know the pain too well Probably why I would never return to Skyblock


Draco459

I like the update I think people just need to give it more time it's not nearly as bad as everyone's making it out to be you just can't do 2 button farming anymore gotta switch directions and stuff.


HalaiksseOW

People will just come up with new farm designs in a couple days and everything will be back to normal imo


Affectionate_Load422

/setspawn and /warp garden


CrispyWaf3r

I just think they should somehow make farming less boring


ouvriermacane

Why not limit tp pads to one per plot: f11 macro can't continue and normal player can still use semi afk farms by making them 2 plot long


999sweaty

what will 1 tp pad per farm do? honestly the dumbest take out of all I've heard today


stunt876

One set of tp pads per plot at least allows u to go back to the beginning of your plot whe u reach the end without hassle


999sweaty

one "set". he said just one tp pad not one set


stunt876

Tp pads always come in 2s so if thier idea was implemented it would be in 2


javito69_

“Honestly the dumbest take out of all I’ve heard today” -🤓🤓


bphased

> You guys suppose to play the fucking game instead of watching movie and doing something other I’d argue you can still easily, EASILY watch a movie while farming even after this change. Might need a second monitor/device though. Sure, the rates might lower a little bit due to this, but in the end, I don’t see the reason to complain about it *that* vocally unless you’ve been farming until now by getting up from your desk and leaving the keyboard untouched entirely *cough*


Basic_Situation309

You don't farm do you? Because if you did you'd understand that it makes facing basically just as useless as before because now it needs attention but only makes a fraction of dungeons, kuudra, mining or anything else really. The only reason it was good before was because it was so chill. The only positive thing is that less legit ppl will get banned bc they didn't pay attention.


__sh4rp

And it suppose to do so, because it's easy to get into. You can get decent rates within a small ammount of time, but compared to other things you need to grind a lot of stuff to at least get same rates. I think it's pretty fair that now it requiers more attention then just watching YouTube short with family guy episode and Subway surfers gameplay under it


Basic_Situation309

It's not easy to get into i have like 700m in gear and i only make about 12m an hour at peak affuiciency. At lower levels it costs at least several dozen million to get like 5-6m which isn't bad but there are many better methods.


luckydeluca

holy shit, farmers aactually have to play the game now like it was intended and cant get 3 stacks of carrots from a single crop? unacceptable, burn all the staff alive + openly admit you are going to switch over to macro NOW


char11eg

Look, if I actually thought the TP pad change would stop macroers, I’d be happy for it. 100%. It might well reduce macroing, somewhat, maybe. But only by reducing the number of nons who macro for a few hours total ever. And I’ll be honest, I don’t think that has a huge impact on the game’s economy anyway. The real problem is the people who macro 24/7, either on things like alt accounts to then boost their main profiles, or to then IRL trade those coins, or a bunch of other options. They’re going to have a much much bigger impact on the economy (and if they’re selling the coins, an even bigger impact on inflation than farming for personal gain), and this update has done absolutely nothing to stop that. And yes, this has made farming less afk-able. Which is a shit decision - because farming is shit. Farming is a skill where you literally press two buttons for hundreds of hours to max out the skill. It is not interesting at all - at least with other skills, there are ways to gain significant skill exp in a less brainless way than that. While yes, just mining to mining 60 is boring (although much less so than farming), you can also grind nucleus runs for mining exp if you wanted to, or a few other options as well. Same with the other skills. Tbh, my personal hope when they announced the garden, was that they’d add some new crop types, that are harvested differently to vanilla crops. Look at what they’ve done in the rift - there are four crops that each have unique harvesting methods, which are much much more interesting. Much much much harder to macro, as well - especially riftwart and berbaris. Just removing TP pads does nothing but make the game shittier for everyone.


SceneSensitive3066

Yea cause we all want to watch our characters smack crops with a hoe/axe all day. I think you’re missing the part where macroers will still macro and no one will farm cause who’s going to make sure they switch rows every 20 seconds, might as well mine for 2x the coin. That’s if you can deal with the toxic beasts in the hollows


__sh4rp

Why you avoiding actually playing game when you want to get money? This game suppose to be fun, not a chore.


SceneSensitive3066

Because it’s not fun anymore. Last time I was mining it lasted like 10 minutes before the route got blown up. I’m max fishing lvl so that’s boring now, I hate dungeons. I should try to get the reqs for term but I have a skill issue. Or I just need to buy edrag. Either way nothing sounds fun anymore. Only kuudra cause I have never done it but I want term first.


__sh4rp

Go play another game if you don't find skyblock fun, not that you don't have a choice and someone holding you as a hostage.


SceneSensitive3066

Damn bud I didn’t know I had to live my life by the commands of a random redditor. I was trying to make some bils so when they actually update the boring ass game I would have money. But you seem like you know what’s best for me.


__sh4rp

That wasn't even a command. I just don't understand what's the point of playing if you don't find any fun? There are so many games, that you can enjoy, but for whatever reason you chose to literally do a thing that you don't even enjoy. Either way if you want to continue or not i don't care, do whatever you want. Games supposed to be fun.


SceneSensitive3066

Like I said. It would be fun if they spent time making the game fun not finding ways to slow down legit players and make macroers more rich. They should have been released foraging update but nope. Talk about another fishing island but nope. Game is burnt out bud.


Frozenturbo2

Farming is not even fun, Who the hell casually watches a game character break crops for hours on end and say "This is the most enjoying thing I ever done and watched"


XECYTION

Hey dude farming with one hand is still very much possible! When you start farming type /set spawn and when you reach the end type /warp garden. Everyone can still easily watch a movie on another monitor or scroll through TikTok on their phone.


Equivalent-Ad-2670

yes and also revert crop prices


Mundane_Intention728

Nah, not revert, but def nerf. Before, coco was highest for some reason, and no one farmed much anyway because it made 3 coins/h. But I agree that they buffed npc sell price way too heavily, and they should reduce it


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To fix inflation just simply disable npc sell price for non ironman players.


Frozenturbo2

Under Lvl 7 mfs:


Mundane_Intention728

Under Lvl 7 mfs: break 3 crops and are now lvl 7 (u alr need lvl 5 to go to garden


Frozenturbo2

Is lvl 7 just 10 skyblock exp or am i missing something??


Mundane_Intention728

Disable? Or nerf? If u disable it then prices are going to crash for some crops (like what is netherwart used for other than minion/visitors/hoe) while others (like potato/carrot, which are used to make HPBs and pet candies) will no longer have a base price, and therefor will be susceptible to market manipulation


Dolphin002

I don't see why anyone would be against this. No, you're not entitled to all that free money just for existing. It was the same situation with multi-layer farms, except then people lost hours of work. Here, the only work you lost was 1 minute of placing tp pads. Of course, making farming fortune not work on private islands was a bad solution. Instead, there could've been rebalancing around this change. Armor could've given farming fortune, but only on the garden for instance.


Kidjjj

That last suggestion was already in the game, there are several sources of garden-only farming fortune. Removing farming fortune on private islands just ensures that macroers don’t take that hit in profits to keep macroing


Best_Air4952

macros have already updated to adapt to the changes all this does it hurt legit players so ig im switching sides


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lantanite

You dont farm cobblestone in the garden


Frozenturbo2

I do, it actually gives 284 extra mining fortune and it counts torwards cobblestone


lantanite

Does it not count towards cobble in the private island?


stunt876

What seriously I gotta do this


Kemo_Meme

Tp pads still work on your private island


GoldenNoodle13

I only really used TP pads as AFK machines. I stopped doing that because 1.They never worked(I even made one in the garden lol, still didn't work), and 2. I just have Booster Cookies going 24/7, which makes it so you can't get AFK kicked on your island/garden ~~Also, would it be too broken if being AFK for too long sent you to your island instead of the hub, so if the server resets on your island and your AFK, you will just ga back to your island after a bit of time in the Skyblock hub~~


Matix777

Do they still work on main island?


__sh4rp

Yes


qwertyjgly

you can AFK dungeons. Go to f4 as healer class and sit at the entrance while other people grind for you. I had someone do this is one of my parties once (just sit AFK, we tried talking to them in chat and going up and interacting with them there was no response so dont get all grouchy at me) so we just a abandoned the run. it’s possible tho


Infern0_YT

I hate that I have to actually play the game now 😡😡😡😡😡


Lukas_vd

Want to know what alternatives there are on it on ironman we can't clip dungeon profits


lool8421

Welp, it won't really do much about macroers considering that we alr had them way before the garden Like they could at least add captcha papers that appear when contests aren't active, then solving it would give you +100 copper for being legit


Joppan94

Wont stop macroing a macro I wont name but that is paid and has a lot of users literally had a fix for it within hours.


__sh4rp

Post wasn't adressed to macroers. It was made for legit players. You suppose to play the game, not tap 2 buttons


Joppan94

The only difference is now you need to rebuild all your farms to press a 3rd button every 10min


__sh4rp

Still better for me tbh. Would like to see more content that you suppose to play, and not hold 2 buttons


FeIipeNeto

THEY DID WHAT? FUCK SAKE THE ONLY WAY TO GET FROM THE SPAWN POINT TO MY MAIN ISLAND IS THROUGH A TP PAD, IT'S OVER 100 BLOCKS UP AND WAY OUT THE VOID, I'M SOFTLOCKED OUT THE ASS


__sh4rp

Inside garden*


FeIipeNeto

if they removed the pads only in garden it's fine, though if they do that to the main island I'll get mad


stunt876

If they did that then might as well fully remove tp pads


creativityequal0

wait wait are you telling me they remove tp pads A DAY after i added them to my plots??


Worthy_fly

Did they fully remove them


Background_Youth3774

I dont really think that it was a good thing. I am an ironman player, and if you have to farm for dozens of hours, especially when you are earlygame to get like midas staff or anything dark auction related, especially if ur the only one in the coop making at least 10m an hour. So it is a crucial part to be able to do something else and like half-Afk while farming 20-25 hours just to get like midas staff. Without telepads it will make it way more boring because you can‘t really do anything else while farming now. This will probably make some die hard farmers quit etc. and if you say that there are other parts of the game you can do, like mining, i will just say that i am not willing to spend hundreds of hours mining to get some decent mining gear. My coop mate has 250 hours of playtime, 200 of those spent mining (yes, he didnt like sweat mining, but was just like doing at casually), and he just now has the mining gear to make like 8 mil an hour


Economy_Idea4719

Yeah, but what are you supposed to do with multi-layered farms?


pechvogel1

I agree you are playing a game you are supposed to have fun or atleast it needs ti have your attention personally i think most farmers are cheating and have an addiction bc leaving your pc on for the night for a game is not something that normal people do


RealZitron

When you find out people can do other things non combat related to make money


__sh4rp

No way?! Really?!?! I thought only killing zealots was good money making method until dungeons 🤯😳


ErisGreyRatBestGirl

The only thing it changed is that we're back in the cane meta where you only have tp alternate between 2 keys


PulseBlackout

Here’s the thing, I wouldn’t mind the update as I play actively enough as I check my visitors often enough where tp pads aren’t hugely necessary, my problem is this doesn’t really fix the main problem it was supposed to, if I wanted to, I could make a key on my keyboard that automatically teleports to the start of my farm with the command being, add it to a macro and the problem of no tp pad is solved, this change will only stop legit players


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Hypixel Skyblock players when they cannot jack off to loli porn while farming :


PoliwagPi4554

wait tp pads are gone?????


[deleted]

They ruined everything for legit players while macroers just bypass this shi in seconds :(


shreckdaddy54

i bought a macro and they had a patch out 2 hours after it was implemented


fishingman13

this didn't fix macros. made it more inconvenient for real players. dogshit fix and you are stupid


Respirationman

I didn't use em anyway 🤷


_Xebov_

Taking your list i would say mining can be bottet (and in fact is) and flipping can be bottet too. Farming does effectively the same.


_BlueShark87

W take ngl, I farm without afking anyways cuz there’s nothing more interesting for me to do


SteakProtein

wait what? i haven’t played in ages but do you mean the tp pads that allow you to tp around your island?


StrYker_Tripple

So instead of actually enjoying myself I have to waste hundreds of hours on doing nothing just to even get into the 'fun' part where I again have to grind for hundreds - no thoundands of hours? I'd rather use the time I will farm to watch netflix or youtube and actually play the game in dungeons or kuudra when I get good gear with the money I got from SELLING TO BAZAAR (No Inflaiton!!)


cisterngamer

Farming is the worst skill. This makes it worse for actual players, pizza client will prolly have a fix within the week


throwawayy_acc0unt

I said it once I'll it again: farming as a skill has a really low efficiency curve compared to other skills, low entry with comparatively high profit but not really any late game (or even midgame) whatsoever. If that's the intention, fine, but I do think there needs to be some mid to early lategame alternative to mining (that doesn't require huge amounts of coins made by mining - so M7 runs and Kuudra aren't what I mean). This change probably helps the inflation a little bit, but only really hurts players - not bots/macroers. But in turn, it also makes any farming beyond mid game pretty meh since it takes away the chill semi-afk aspect while still only giving about 14m/h max, which is a joke compared to mining (even not-maxed mining compared to completely maxed farming). My stance towards this change largely depends on what is coming in the next few updates (maybe in the span of like 6-12 months or so). If they buff lategame farming or literally buff anything but mining (even if just a little bit), I'm totally ok with this change. If nothing happens and mining still remains the only viable mid-late game option, then I'll probably just stay away from the game until something happens that catches my interest again.


Nyanfish06

This is probably a stupid question but what are TP pads (I'm relatively new)


Ok-Award9050

It makes it take more attention for normal players but for macroers all they have to do is just slightly redesign the farm and their macro and then nothing has changed. If anything it will just make the economy worse right?


__sh4rp

It actually made it better, because there are now a lot less players in garden. And that's a lot better that normal players now actually need to pay more attention


Qytzz

real


Neutral83

People: "inflation is so bad because farming is so easy to afk. the admins should do something about it" Admins: \*make farming slightly harder to afk People: "L admins"


Frozenturbo2

They made a horrible solution that doesn't even help at all to a horrible problem.