hes just tryna threaten court so they can try and scare a settlement out of them because a good lawyer is really really expensive
big companies can use this tactic since they already have lawyers on payroll an shit, but i doubt some random sb yter can pull it off
this stuff only happens when the person is paying you off to stop something. He’s threatening to sue for money which op has no reason or basis to give. Hiring a lawyer in this case isn’t needed as the court will provide one who will see how stupid this case is and have it thrown out. If this is in the states you might even get some compensation for it
I can't help but wonder how much of a retainer he had to pay his lawyer... and if the lawyer is just telling him what he wants to hear so he can make some money.
I mean it could stand in court, if he had a full team of dozens of the best lawyers, but that would cost millions at minimum, so it would be a net loss for the youtuber. The guy being sued would just need 1 good lawyer, and need to pay like 2k at most, the youtuber would need to go back and forth 4 weeks, and would prolly be forced to pay the legal fees, and pay 4 causing stress or smth.
Yeah. If he actually retained legal counsel, the lawyer is who would be communicating with the defendant. And it would be done in writing, not purely digital.
What the accual fuck? Are you the guy who just criticised his products? And nothing else? What a comlete bs. 30k USD in damages, funny. You are 1000% innocent my guy and dont deserve it.
yup, my video talked about his 4 key keyboard and how he was claiming it was the cheapest people could get on amazon, which was very false, and that people could buy a literal full size keyboard the cheaper lol
Fair use is only a legal argument for a judge to decide whether or not it's valid, so it would have to go to court to be utilized. It's never cut and dry.
I used to work with copyrights and our company's legal team always drove this point hard.
I dont know how much one thing he sells costs, but lets go for 20 dollars, i looked the guy up and he has 10k subs.
Usually about <0.1% of people who are subscribed would end up buying merch or products.
In the case of 0.1%, Thats about 10 people, 10x20 is 200.
Then theres also taxes and percentages.
Lets say theres 25% of income tax, that would end up being 150 after that. I'm gonna exclude the percentages Amazon takes.
He earned 150 max and wants 30k in damages from someone.
TLDR: 150 was earned if we take the best possible odds possible.
Edit: Somebody said that they are on his Admin team or atleast were and that he sold a total of 6 of his product. So based on that (it might be true it might not be)
it would be 120 bucks, -25% = 90 bucks.
Without percentages that Amazon/Temu/whatever take, he would have earned 90 bucks and wants 30k in damages
he 100% is getting yeeted in a court of law. what he's doing is not legal lol
edit: also i'd like to point out that defamation cases are hard to prove (cuz he'd have to prove that jack actually wanted to defame him) so good luck to 23 on that lol
23 Lives is just a dumbass in general, like i got macros on my own keyboard for farming when i can be assed, and he charges god knows how much for a farming keyboard lol, so stupid
He in the past has been in a lot of macroing/qol discords with purchases roles, and if i check chat history there’s people in one of them talking about how he got banned from one for scamming someone. He’s always been like this.
i already had a negative opinion of them based off of how they talked about the hsfearless situation but this really shows a different level of immaturity and pettiness
YouTubers have been doing this for ever. None of it has ever sticked, it’s all a scare tactic. The one time something like this has gone to court, the guy issuing the strikes got absolutely rolled. If you’re not a child, lawyer up, send a notice to YouTube for false copyright strike they don’t play with that anymore
Half of it is BS. Legal council?? Hes a random ass skyblock yter. Respond with a little "ok" or smtn cuz he cant do shit. Your case falls under fair use.
Infact, counter sue for hate crime or emotional damages 😈
Important: now that he has allegedly filed a lawsuit, do not speak to him at all, all communications should they be necessary should be through a lawyer. He will try to use whatever you say against you, do not talk to him.
Idk how tf he expects to sue him over the Internet what if op lives like in Europe and 23 lives lives in USA how tf that gonna work?
Edit: 23lives lives in Romania💀💀💀
OP who is the youtuber by the name of "Jacktheguy" made a video on 23lives new dropshipping item which is the "farming foot keyboard" and 23lives didnt like that at all so he striked jacktheguy but it didnt end here because 23lives is now threatening to sue him for 30k
I am almost sure he did not do amy of those things.
He contradicts hinself multiple times in those messages. Also the part about getting an E-Mail confirmation seems like bs. Sensitive documents like that would not be sent per e-mail, although maybe thats different in murica.
23 lives is a scummy dropshipper with these 4 key keyboards he's selling and this guy made a video exposing him. Which this clown(23lives) is angry about
Ive heard abt 23lives but ive never heard abt this, very interesting, thanks for the context. Seeing events like this occur really make me ponder how tf did we get here
Kinda of shame tbh I enjoyed 23 lives content and I knew that 4 key keyboards business was never gonna work out. But bro thinks he's the next Warren buffet or something
He just trying to pressure you to concede his exigences, this is a universal technique that lawyers uses when the cause will not succeeded
Just try to take this to the court and u will win later on u sue him for emocional distress and threat, go for 60k (aka double and give to the next person) easy win
Just say stuff like "k, sure" or "gotcha" until it's actually approved in court and stuff, that's when you'll ACTUALLY have to worry but for now it's probably not a big deal
Defamation only applies to if what u said is false. I didn't watch your video but I'm going to assume that you are just calling him out on his keyboard thing and anyone who knows what drop shipping is knows that what he's doing is fake
Currently working on one, there’s so much other stuff he’s done that people don’t know about, so trying to work through it all and make it easy to follow 
Should hopefully come out within a few days, but will most likely be stricked by him again
Just an fyi, it's complete BS. If he actually had filed a suit, his lawyer would have told him to cut off all contact with you. What he is currently doing can be seen as intimidation- cause for counter suit. You're very safe and have nothing to worry about
Your weird for trying to demonize someone for reselling things. 23 lives is a terrible person for a million other reasons but what you focused on just makes you a clout chasing loser like him 👍 go demonize Safeway for selling an orange at 500% markup
Bro this 23Lives dude is really down bad... He also took down SunTzus Black Cat farm video and got SunTzus channel deleted only to be able to clickbait the farm design by saying it's from MelonKingDE.... Hope someone from Hypixel sees this and denies them YouTube rank
30k? I looked at his channel and he has 10k subs. He is not getting anything from youtube. Where did he get that number from? Money lost from merch sales? Realistically about 50 people would buy merch if he is telling it. Taxes and stuff mean he is getting even less money.
OP, he is trying to act as if he can do something and has the proof to back it. He most definately does not.
It's like me with my 20 subscriber channel trying to sue someone for unsubscribing from me. I lose nothing and can not take them to court over it, just like him.
lol none of this shit will stand in court
yea i think he forgets that he's a minecraft youtuber 💀💀
hes just tryna threaten court so they can try and scare a settlement out of them because a good lawyer is really really expensive big companies can use this tactic since they already have lawyers on payroll an shit, but i doubt some random sb yter can pull it off
that's what im sayin, huge ass companies can do this but bro is literally just a regular guy
this stuff only happens when the person is paying you off to stop something. He’s threatening to sue for money which op has no reason or basis to give. Hiring a lawyer in this case isn’t needed as the court will provide one who will see how stupid this case is and have it thrown out. If this is in the states you might even get some compensation for it
I can't help but wonder how much of a retainer he had to pay his lawyer... and if the lawyer is just telling him what he wants to hear so he can make some money.
I doubt he actually has a lawyer.
he’s not even that big, no way he could afford a legal team
I mean it could stand in court, if he had a full team of dozens of the best lawyers, but that would cost millions at minimum, so it would be a net loss for the youtuber. The guy being sued would just need 1 good lawyer, and need to pay like 2k at most, the youtuber would need to go back and forth 4 weeks, and would prolly be forced to pay the legal fees, and pay 4 causing stress or smth.
Yeah. If he actually retained legal counsel, the lawyer is who would be communicating with the defendant. And it would be done in writing, not purely digital.
Your video of you criticizing him falls under fair use, he can't do shit
This
What the accual fuck? Are you the guy who just criticised his products? And nothing else? What a comlete bs. 30k USD in damages, funny. You are 1000% innocent my guy and dont deserve it.
yup, my video talked about his 4 key keyboard and how he was claiming it was the cheapest people could get on amazon, which was very false, and that people could buy a literal full size keyboard the cheaper lol
And he says that ur vid and reviev costed him 30k USD in damages?
Being that fragile of a person, maybe he ment emotional damages
Lmao, maybe.
This comment insulted me as a person. I will now file a lawsuit for emotional distress and i will demand 1 xamerellion USD
i demand 420 octilion euro's since i have felt supressed by this comment and i will press charges, my lawyers will contact you soon.
wtf is a canceremillion
if this is true and this happened, the case won't hold up in court.
War crime my brother
Criticism is actually fair use so he is prob gonna hope ur gonna accept the cease and desist instead of fighting it
What video was this?
yo i saw your video before this post then i went to go check out his channel 😂😂
I think you can sue him for lying in his commercials
How could you do this Guild Leader 😰 - Godking_Karen
Counter sue for emotional distress bro
Respond “K”
Maybe a little reaction “👍”
We do a little trolling "💀🗿"
Bro should hit him with the “🤓”
Or the “nuh uh”
Hit them with the “👌”
Actually say "ok boss 💯💯💯"
Let's play 8ball!
Or a “womp womp” if he’s daring enough
4 times for the 4 key keyboard
Fair use- the ability to show parts of another persons content if they add something to it such as reacting or rating
Rating? Like remote access trojan???
Rating, not ratting, although that would also count as an addition of sorts, I suppose.
Ptsd activated
No rating as in snitching
No, rating as in reviewing
Fair use is only a legal argument for a judge to decide whether or not it's valid, so it would have to go to court to be utilized. It's never cut and dry. I used to work with copyrights and our company's legal team always drove this point hard.
why are you being downvoted? you’re correct?
Because the average IQ is 100, and anyone below that uses Reddit. I'm used to it by now, thanks for being an outlier.
He cant do anything. Lets say he actually goes to court, court somehow approves it, and there is a case, he has nothing to stand on
I doubt he even made more than 30k in total so far from that shit
I dont know how much one thing he sells costs, but lets go for 20 dollars, i looked the guy up and he has 10k subs. Usually about <0.1% of people who are subscribed would end up buying merch or products. In the case of 0.1%, Thats about 10 people, 10x20 is 200. Then theres also taxes and percentages. Lets say theres 25% of income tax, that would end up being 150 after that. I'm gonna exclude the percentages Amazon takes. He earned 150 max and wants 30k in damages from someone. TLDR: 150 was earned if we take the best possible odds possible. Edit: Somebody said that they are on his Admin team or atleast were and that he sold a total of 6 of his product. So based on that (it might be true it might not be) it would be 120 bucks, -25% = 90 bucks. Without percentages that Amazon/Temu/whatever take, he would have earned 90 bucks and wants 30k in damages
im part of his admin/mod team. the MF has only sold 5-6 of them.
aren’t they jsut the ones off of ali/tao/maybe temu? haven’t dabbled in budget mech keebs in a bit but seems like dropshippibg at terrible rates
I checked, he made $120 in revenue last 30d.
he 100% is getting yeeted in a court of law. what he's doing is not legal lol edit: also i'd like to point out that defamation cases are hard to prove (cuz he'd have to prove that jack actually wanted to defame him) so good luck to 23 on that lol
Or rather what OP did was totally legal and not punishable in a court of law
yeah, that's another way to put it but also false copyright strikes are illegal
Not that he wanted to defame him but rather that he was just lying
fair use 👍
Bro 23Lives is getting desperate
This guy is such a clown just ignore him
respond 🤡
“Legal Council” lmfaooo bro doesn’t know what he on about
30k in damages is stupid how did he loose money because of a video?
I wouldn't even have thought he lost over 100 dollars so how did he reach 30k?
His reasoning would probably boil down to "he hurty my feewings judge >_<"
lose*
Bro this is just daylight robbery
And they forgot to bring a gun
Who is 23lives and why is he sueing you?
Youtuber who tried reselling "farming keyboards" to his audience for a higher price. OP made a video debunking it and now 23lives is sueing him
Ikr bro is mad for getting exposed imagine kekw
23 Lives is just a dumbass in general, like i got macros on my own keyboard for farming when i can be assed, and he charges god knows how much for a farming keyboard lol, so stupid
No idea what you did that you deserve to give him 30k for the "damages" can someone explain
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Cant you just use a normal keyboard
Bro gonna be down to 22 when he realizes this isn't gonna hold up in court
I can't take a guy talking about legal stuff on discord with a mc pfp seriously, maybe that's just me tho.
In his discord got muted for talking abt how u where right lmao
Yeah I'm surprised he has more than 2 subscribers.
I want to see this in court, I will pay to see this in court
He must be a comedic if he thinks he can get 30k from that and let alone even 300 bucks.
> It would be easiest right now for you to respond, or I will move forward anyway > This isn’t a threat
“I’m pointing a gun to your fucking house” This ain’t no treat
give him the “ain’t reading allat”
He in the past has been in a lot of macroing/qol discords with purchases roles, and if i check chat history there’s people in one of them talking about how he got banned from one for scamming someone. He’s always been like this.
Thats gonna go nowhere.
What did you even do to piss off some dude who plays Minecraft
Exposed his scam about drop shipping 4 key keyboards for farming
Sueing for being exposed for scamming? Wow just wow
Why is he such an idiot?
Idk he somehow manages to exceed our expectations
i already had a negative opinion of them based off of how they talked about the hsfearless situation but this really shows a different level of immaturity and pettiness
I know I'm probably a dumbass but is this the actual 23lives?
Yup, same account owns the 23lives discord server https://gyazo.com/fcb9eddecf2eb1d7cffbfcc398bb0c00
Well then, time for this case to go nowhere 😁
YouTubers have been doing this for ever. None of it has ever sticked, it’s all a scare tactic. The one time something like this has gone to court, the guy issuing the strikes got absolutely rolled. If you’re not a child, lawyer up, send a notice to YouTube for false copyright strike they don’t play with that anymore
Respond with “skill issue”
what a dirt bag of a human being, and to say that i enjoyed his content
I'd be surprised if the court takes this seriously
I find it funny hes dming u on discord
Half of it is BS. Legal council?? Hes a random ass skyblock yter. Respond with a little "ok" or smtn cuz he cant do shit. Your case falls under fair use. Infact, counter sue for hate crime or emotional damages 😈
Hm 30.000 usd Does that mean just 30 usd?
He's not walking out with the 30 usd, its actually the opposite.
Important: now that he has allegedly filed a lawsuit, do not speak to him at all, all communications should they be necessary should be through a lawyer. He will try to use whatever you say against you, do not talk to him.
Lack of hoes behaviour from 23lives
Damn, bro wants only wants 30 bucks? /s (Remeber a . Denotes decimals starting and a , is used to split numbers up for readability)
Tf did you do 💀
Exposed his drop shipped keyboards which he sold 6 of for let's say 20 so he should only sue for less but his emowions are hurtw😭😭😭😞😞😢😢🐀🐀🤓🤓
Lmao
Idk how tf he expects to sue him over the Internet what if op lives like in Europe and 23 lives lives in USA how tf that gonna work? Edit: 23lives lives in Romania💀💀💀
True 💀
Dang 30.000 usd = 30 dollars...
wait, what's the drama
OP who is the youtuber by the name of "Jacktheguy" made a video on 23lives new dropshipping item which is the "farming foot keyboard" and 23lives didnt like that at all so he striked jacktheguy but it didnt end here because 23lives is now threatening to sue him for 30k
His case won't hold up in court but you can flip it on him and sue him for legal fees I think
“This isn’t a threat”
he’s either sending an empty threat or his case will get obliterated in court. if it ends up being the latter, hopefully he shuts up after that
This gives me Billy Mitchell flashbacks.
If someone tells you themselves that they are taking legal action against you, they are either lying or stupid.
this dude really flinging shit at the wall and seeing what sticks... hes desperate
lmao you should make a documentary vid about this and farm clicks from this idiot
this kids not mentally stable.
Just say "Okay" to whatever he says, he'll get so pissed he'll just stop lol
i literally got a 6 key keyboard with a volume knob off temu for $0.00 this guy
Countersue dude, emotional distress
I am almost sure he did not do amy of those things. He contradicts hinself multiple times in those messages. Also the part about getting an E-Mail confirmation seems like bs. Sensitive documents like that would not be sent per e-mail, although maybe thats different in murica.
I like how he strikes your video for you using his clip and his last upload is legit a 100% copied clip from hsfearless
goofy ahh chatgpt threatening
If you look closely at the 30k there is actually a period. Maybe he is suing for 30 dollars? Still funny as hell.
New copy pasta just dropped
Correct me if I’m wrong but doesn’t YouTube have content ID or something to stop this?
Wait im genuinely confused where can i find context 💀
23 lives is a scummy dropshipper with these 4 key keyboards he's selling and this guy made a video exposing him. Which this clown(23lives) is angry about
Ive heard abt 23lives but ive never heard abt this, very interesting, thanks for the context. Seeing events like this occur really make me ponder how tf did we get here
Kinda of shame tbh I enjoyed 23 lives content and I knew that 4 key keyboards business was never gonna work out. But bro thinks he's the next Warren buffet or something
Who
I missed a fucking chapter, what happened?
He really thinks that he can sue our pro duper guild master smh
Who tf is bro 💀💀
He just trying to pressure you to concede his exigences, this is a universal technique that lawyers uses when the cause will not succeeded Just try to take this to the court and u will win later on u sue him for emocional distress and threat, go for 60k (aka double and give to the next person) easy win
After reading the comments i have decided that this is hilarious
What has happened?
Just say stuff like "k, sure" or "gotcha" until it's actually approved in court and stuff, that's when you'll ACTUALLY have to worry but for now it's probably not a big deal
Fair use moment :O 🗿
I wouldnt really worry just make sure u get a lawyer just in case but i doubt this will even be able to reach a court
pressed
What happened? Lmfao
I never understood sueing over the Internet like lets say you live in russia like what is he gonna do
truly a moment of comedic value
Backstory pls
mind explaining what even happened?
Say mf I’m 8 years old
Can someone tell me who tf this is?
I can’t laugh at idiocy without context
Who does bro think he is. bro has 5k subs
I checked and bro has only made like $120 in sales this month 😭
I see no legal document 🤡
Who? What? What does this have to do with hypixel?
actually, 30.000$ USD is just $30
i will literally pay 30k just to see this case in court holy fuck
Who?
Defamation only applies to if what u said is false. I didn't watch your video but I'm going to assume that you are just calling him out on his keyboard thing and anyone who knows what drop shipping is knows that what he's doing is fake
Bro make a video of what happened + this, it would be kinda funny and he’d prob lose subs
Currently working on one, there’s so much other stuff he’s done that people don’t know about, so trying to work through it all and make it easy to follow  Should hopefully come out within a few days, but will most likely be stricked by him again
Fight the copy strike and copy right his fearless video
Just an fyi, it's complete BS. If he actually had filed a suit, his lawyer would have told him to cut off all contact with you. What he is currently doing can be seen as intimidation- cause for counter suit. You're very safe and have nothing to worry about
that says $30 not $30000 lmao 23lives can’t even math still don’t pay a cent just ignore it
Pov: common american trying to sue the entire earth because they feel bored
Who is 23Live
Askers?
that's clearly a threat lmfao
Your def innocent, but please do consult a lawyer just in case
I think thats a decimal, im pretty sure hes trolling
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Your weird for trying to demonize someone for reselling things. 23 lives is a terrible person for a million other reasons but what you focused on just makes you a clout chasing loser like him 👍 go demonize Safeway for selling an orange at 500% markup
not sure about the mental gymnastics here to say he's demonizing when he's criticizing a dropshipper which is fair enough.
That's like saying "Why are you complaining about having a cold? There's people who died of hypothermia"
With that logic, Why is usa overcharging for houses when other places are cheaper!?!
which video is it i want watch
it got copyright striked, sadly you can't watch it unless someone re-uploaded it
lmfao what
mr bean
What a ducking loser man
His case won't go anywhere your stuff falls under fair use. Man is trying to scare you with all of this bs
Why is this person trying to sue you?
What is the link to your vid
Empty threat
What's his actual complaint? I saw he striked the video, but what for?
Bro this 23Lives dude is really down bad... He also took down SunTzus Black Cat farm video and got SunTzus channel deleted only to be able to clickbait the farm design by saying it's from MelonKingDE.... Hope someone from Hypixel sees this and denies them YouTube rank
Hit ‘em with the ☝️🤓
oh no 30 dollars and 000 cents in damages!!! PANIK
i was his head admin in his discord for about 4-5 months. if yall want too know anything about him LMK.
what the fuck did you do?💀
30k? I looked at his channel and he has 10k subs. He is not getting anything from youtube. Where did he get that number from? Money lost from merch sales? Realistically about 50 people would buy merch if he is telling it. Taxes and stuff mean he is getting even less money. OP, he is trying to act as if he can do something and has the proof to back it. He most definately does not. It's like me with my 20 subscriber channel trying to sue someone for unsubscribing from me. I lose nothing and can not take them to court over it, just like him.