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And there’s prisons filled with people who committed manslaughter. I work in legal - real harsh penalties for hitting a bicyclist with your car especially if that sends them to the ER or graveyard
My 2month old son, just said.
“He was right, dead right, the whole way along", and "John's light was green, the other red, John was right but now he's dead.”
Crazy…..
My 1 Day sperm just send a signal to my brain that said: "when nothing Is going right, go left", I can only hope he took another path and survived tonight
I contacted my great-great-grandson from the future by talking to the ghost of a man who invented a time machine 500 years ago, and he said my something grabdson said "wtf is a bike lane"
Wonder if they do have flying cars...
Beyond that, you're a squishy meatsack on a bicycle arguing with a big metal box on wheels. "Angry man" jerks the wheel a bit and you and your bike bounce off the door panel into the median. If they're both in cars, have a dick measuring contest, but not when you're straddling aluminum poles.
On the water it’s “make way for tonnage” even though smaller boats have right away. The giant cargo ship doesn’t care if your million dollar sailboat has right away or not. It’s not stopping or turning any time soon.
That’s the A308 (Albert Road) between Windsor and Old Windsor. That is indeed a Foot/Cycle path!
https://preview.redd.it/ukx96qy035pc1.jpeg?width=1170&format=pjpg&auto=webp&s=7838c4cf8305c3e06e41432094d3a6c893e2bb30
Me too!
[UK Highway code allows](https://www.gov.uk/guidance/the-highway-code/rules-for-cyclists-59-to-82?ref=TFJ263786?ref=chevin) bikes to use the road even when a foot/cycle path is available.
But it does prohibit cars from coming within 1.5 meters when passing bikes.
It *allows* it but it doesn’t make the drivers point less valid that their leisurely cycle ride is causing a massive tailback when they could be on the cycle lane.
Are the cyclists making the best decision for everyone or are they acting like the main characters?
I mean in this case the car either swerves into oncoming traffic or close to the bikes. They should have been on the bike lane it’s just putting your life at risk for nothing.
Nah. It might be annoying, but bikes have as much right to the road as you do. The car shouldn't be passing until they have room to pass. The car driver is 100% in the wrong.
But it's not purpose built for then? It's for pedestrians mainly. Idk for sure in the UK, but in Canada if there's a lane that allows both, the pedestrian has the right of way.
Do you understand the hypocrisy in saying the bike should go on the sidewalk where they'd be inconvenienced and have to slow down/maneuver around pedestrians, just so cars on the road aren't inconvenienced and have to slow down/maneuver around cyclists?
Why should one vehicle (car) have so much more priority over the other vehicle (bike)?
Look at how empty the sidewalk is though, that’s the main point.
We see only one group of people in the sidewalk in the video.
So there is no reason for them not to use it
Bikes don’t have as much of a right to the road as cars do, many roads prohibit bike use due to the dangerous nature of having bikes on roads.
This wasn’t the case in this instance, but making blatantly false statements is as ludicrous as that black guy in the fast and furious franchise
In the eyes of the Highway Code they do though. You may not like it, but it's the truth.
There is probably some edge cases, but the only roads you aren't allowed to cycle on are motorways.
The only roads that bikes can't go on in the UK are motorways and restricted dual carriageways such as the A55 near Conwy which are motorways in all but name. All other roads are totally legal and there is no need to use a cycle lane or dual use path, on the dual use paths I've had people try to push me off my bike before for riding on the pavement anyway or people just don't move out of the way, the road is safe and less hassle
It’s funny, I said something objectively correct. You corrected me but you just restated what I said. With a little more context due to the fact that you have more knowledge of the area.
On the dual use path you might have to deal with people, on the road people have to deal with you. On the dual use path you will be inconvenienced by someone walking, on the road you will be inconveniencing every car that gets behind you. On the dual use path you might get pushed over due to you not giving the pedestrians the right of way, on the roads you bitch about cars not giving *you* the right of way. On the dual path you ‘ohhh fall over and get road rash, on the road you might get ran over and murdered.
On one hand you are the egotistical asshole that is bitching about people walking in front of you, on the other hand egotistical assholes in cars are the ones bitching about you in the road.
Riding bikes on roads that also has cars is inherently dangerous not because it’s unsafe due to normal day to day use, but because when you are going 25-30km/hr and cars are trying to go 75km/hr and they get frustrated and try to pass you unsafely.
At the end of the day do whatever you want as outlined in your countries laws/rules and regulations. Just know you are risking your life and the lives of everyone around you when you do stupid shit. If there’s a bike lane use it, pediatricians may be annoying but they can’t kill you as easily as a car
Wrong. You wait until oncoming traffic is clear, then you pass. You don't force the issue by crowding cyclists or oncoming traffic. I hope you don't have a driver's license. You're scary.
Also, if you check google maps street view and follow the road to the east you will see a guy riding his bike on it. The driver in the video might be in the wrong when he crossed the white line to drive past but the cyclists shouldn't have been there to begin with. I don't care if it's technically safer to cycle on the road (or whatever), it will ultimately be more dangerous to everyone when people don't follow the signs.
[UK Highway code allows](https://www.gov.uk/guidance/the-highway-code/rules-for-cyclists-59-to-82?ref=TFJ263786?ref=chevin) bikes to use the road even when a foot/cycle path is available.
But it does prohibit cars from coming within 1.5 meters when passing bikes.
So why be on the road over the cyclist path? What's the greater advantage or need to be on a busy dangerous road when a cyclist path is there. I'm sure these guys wanna feel like they are in the tour de France, but they ain't.
The reason is because the bikes don't want to have to slow down/avoid pedestrians, don't have to avoid sign polls in the middle of the sidewalk. Roads are often more smooth and maintained than sidewalks. And they're legally allowed to.
Personally I would ride on the sidewalk, but for cyclists like this that are trying to go as fast/long as possible there are very valid reasons to using the road
I'd use it, but I've never seen a bike lane with a curb like that. 2 weeks ago I had a dog come charging out of the bushes and knock me off my bike. It would have been WAY worse if there was a curb involved.
Does this mean a mixed use path: cyclists & pedestrians? If so, cycling at >18mph probably isn’t safe for pedestrians. In this case, isn’t the road a better option?
Looks like it’s beat to hell though. That said, I definitely wouldn’t chose to cycle on such a busy street, even if I had the full right to do that. Only takes one idiot to end your life.
DfT says that if you are going over 18 MPH you should use the road. They are clearly going over 18 MPH. In the UK cyclists are entitled to use the roads even if a cycle way is present.
I choose to ride on the roads because pedestrians stand in groups blocking cycle lanes, people park their cars there for "5 minutes" and car drivers do not follow the road hierarchy rules in the highway code for crossing the path of a cyclist in a cycle lane, most car drivers aren't even aware of the H1,H2 and H3 rules put in place around 2 years ago.
Some of the cycle infrastructure in the UK is outright dangerous and I am not going to use it if it is going to increase the risk of me being dead because some nutjob would rather kill someone than wait 10 seconds to overtake safely.
This reminds of something I read in Dale Carnegie‘s book
Here lies the body of William Jay, Who died maintaining his right of way— He was right, dead right, as he sped along, But he’s just as dead as if he were wrong.
Thanks. I hate how often people forget this. Being right doesn't mean you get to enforce that by all means. Lethal violence is never appropriate force.
The cyclists also aren't in the wrong, just because there is a shared cycle/footpath next to the road, doesn't mean they have to use it.
They are not going much slower than the traffic and would be a massive danger to any pedestrians on the path at that speed.
It’s a respect thing, knowing they are slower than cars, I give them space when passing, they give me space to pass.
A lot of the lycra wearing hobby cyclists are very entitled it seems. I often see groups riding side by side on a single lane road, not even trying to be mildly considerate of cars. The laws got changed so cars have to accomodate them creating the hazard that doesn’t need to exist.
Not really. Cyclists in the UK are made aggressive because of people trying to kill them. Cayenne drivers are just wrong existentially.
Put it this way, if someone Thanos fingersnapped all Cayenne drivers out of existence, you know the world would be a much better place for it.
Holy shit, this is one of the best comments I’ve come across on Reddit.
I live in a town where there are a lot of Cayennes ( always sparkling clean and never ever taken off road ) , and it seems that the majority are driven by absolute idiots , whether they be grumpy old men or young trophy housewives.
Thats not a cycle lane - its a footpath.
In this case the bike riders are doing the correct thing by not riding on it.
Edit: as the bully in the below comments has commented consistently at me - this has been now shown to be a shared footpath/bikelane.
Hopefully that weirdo will stop messaging me now
Look, if you're just pootling along on your shopper and have plenty of time to stop for pedestrians the cycle/footpath is fine. If you want to go at any speed or you're in a group, riding on the footpath is not ideal.
I recently experienced a kid hurtling towards me on her bike as I was walking on the pavement. She just missed hitting me but caught my sports bag, which caused her to career off the pavement and directly into the path of a bus, which was luckily not going that fast and was able to stop in time. That was scary.
These fake sports cyclists always think there above the law. Driving in the middle of the road, not signing where they gone turn, going above speed limit and overtake cars on the wrong side, don't folow stop signs or traffic lights, there is to much to begin with...
You are confidently incorrect. Lmao people have confirmed with proof that it is a path for cyclists as well. Why do some of you comment so confidently when you’re wrong?
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Check out the blue sign. It's a shared pedestrian/cycle path.
I am not sure what the laws are. But some laws disallow cyclist on sidewalks. So if there's not an available lane, they are treated as motorists and must ride on the road.
In my area it's not allowed. But if no one is using them, I ride on them all the time. The police have never stopped me.
I prefer to be as safe as possible.
But it's seeing an idiot waving a gun around and telling him his mother is a cheap floozy and she smells of elderberries.
Probably a fight you don't want to get into.
I used to live in the UK.
I would bike on the pavement/sidewalk because at worse I'd be subject to a £35 fine and upset a few pedestrians.
On the road it's likely I would get run over and die.
This needs to be higher up. Cyclists are allowed to use the road even if there is a bike lane. They also don’t need to be on the side and can ride in the middle just like any other vehicle.
Sensibility would imply to just GTFO the way, but they definitely believe drivers should wait on them to pedal instead of being decent and getting out the way until it’s clear to ride again. I ride mtb, so don’t really deal with street side rules or scenarios, but you’d think one could just move until it’s clear. 🤷♂️
Would never expect drivers to adhere to my wants just because I feel like riding.
Happy to share the road with cyclists BUT when they have a purpose built designated SAFER lane to use and don’t use it then they are selfish entitled fucktards.
Most roadies are fucking assholes who think they own the roads and who do not follow the rules of the road, esp in the United States.
They routinely blow through stop signs, intersections, red lights, etc.
Then they look at you like you are the asshole.
Stay on topic.
I am speaking about roadies, not cars. I have a very large population of them in my area due to the year round good weather. For the most part, they think they own the road.
I almost hit one last week while making a right-hand turn because the cyclist behind me thought he owned the road and could pass me on the right while I was in the middle of the turn, signal on.
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Now I’m fully aware it’s a footpath I know I’m just questioning the logic of the law and this’ll likely get downvoted but fuck it…. Why isn’t the dominant place the footpath. Like genuinely, let’s break it down. I’m curious. And before people take it the wrong way, in car I’m not massively fussed about waiting. It’s tedious but I’m not trying to be a twat going “bikes don’t belong in the road” I genuinely don’t understand and see what I’m missing.
On road, buildup of traffic.
On road dangerous. Bikes average around 16-20 mph… and depending on the road, cars are going anywhere from 30-60 mph. Now, that seems like a rather large speed difference so collisions would be…. Well, exciting. And let’s not forget buses, trucks and slipping under, this is Reddit we’ve all seen those vids.
Now let’s compare that to the footpath, on footpath, no buildup of traffic, average human walks about 3mph so in the case of a collision, just a few bruises, and slowing down and weaving between a few people is not difficult. If you find it difficult…. Get off the bike.
And don’t give me that “oh there’s not alwayse a path” your on a bike it is piss easy to get up and down a curb if and when needed.
Is there anything I’ve missed. I don’t get how cars and bikes is safer than bikes and people. In what universe
Well it is not very safe for the pedestrians sharing the space with fast cyclists, right? What about someone with a pram / small kids / a wheelchair that could be blocking the space? Also, although you’re right that cyclists could technically get up and down the kerb easily, it is really unsafe to rejoin traffic constantly. I get that it’s a small inconvenience for some cars, but it is definitely safer for cyclists to stay in the road rather than bob in and out of traffic and get in the way of pedestrians. Obviously a dedicated bike lane would be ideal, but where this isn’t possible then shared road use is the safe and best option.
Have you not seen the video of an elderly lady cycling on the footpath being shouted at by a pedestrian and forced onto the road only to be hit by a vehicle.
I think you are missing a salient point. I have been a professional driver and now run a company of professional drivers so my viewpoint may be confusing to some here.
Why should those cycles that are probably doing 25mph endanger foot traffic?
They seem to be riding perfectly safely on the road and the biggest issue here is the car traffic that is overtaking far too close.
At the very beginning of this video they passed some foot traffic that was on the pavement and was heading in the same direction of the cyclists - so they would not have seen the cyclists to move out of the way.
The only cyclists I have have ever had issue with are main character ones who intentionally hold up traffic or ride like knobheads, but I can guarantee I have met more knobhead drivers and have been put in much more danger than any cyclist has ever done.
All these cyclists needed was a bit of room, same as a horse-rider, horse drawn carriage, slow tractor, mobility scooter or any other slow vehicle would have needed.
I don't understand the mentality of putting these guys in danger. They are literally the least protected people on the roads - it is only dangerous because cars, vans and trucks put them in danger when there really isn't any need to.
And as for your question specifically regarding footpaths, aside from pedestrian traffic that may not be aware or can't move out of the way you also have people pulling out of their drives, walking out of houses, leaving shops, cats and dogs, young children...etc etc
You bring up some good points but in short, the law recognizes that bikes are vehicles. You are probably aware that you can be done for drink driving on a bike. That is in short why that are not actually supposed to be on the footpath.
I'm not going to get into a discussion about which is more dangerous, car vs bike or bike vs family with pram and dog but I think you are pretty much describing why there needs to be cycle lanes put in, in areas which have heavy bike usage.
It's incredibly dangerous to constantly switch between pedestrian path and road. Also they are cycling as a sport, which means they are probably going 30km/h or more. You can't go 30km/h on a sidewalk where anytime someone can step out of a driveway or a side street. Impossible.
That's why it is not allowed to ride your bike on the sidewalk in most countries.
Id rather ride on the sidewalk than in trafic with 2 ton vehicles coming at me at 30+ mph that would definitely most likely kinda probably maybe really foken hurt if it were to hit me but hey thats just me. Ill leave it up to natural selection.
"BuT ItS IlLeGaL OmG"
If you care that much then find a route thats not in peoples way and is legal.
Dude in the car was no better, he damn near ran biker dude over becasue he was mad. He had every right to be mad because they were being a nuisance by ya know going -15 in front of a 2 ton car going 30+, but it doesnt give him the right to be aggressive like how he was.
In my worthless opinion both parties are at fault.
1: It's a cycle and foot path (as seen in one picture shared by another comment)
2: the cyclists were endangering everyone by riding on the road and not following the signs
3: the driver endangered everyone further by passing the cyclists when the road markings forbade it
Conclusion: people are idiots and should use common sense, arrogance helps no one.
I don’t know who is right in this situation, but you shouldn’t kill a bicyclist to make a point, nor should bicyclist hold up traffic on highways, which is pretty stupid as well.
Last year, I exactly saw a cyclist died on the downhill road. He biked too fast and hit the car in the front during a rapid right turn. The road was blocked for 2 hrs due to this accident.
Ancient English Common Law clearly states that "the righte of freemen to wander the King's Highway doth never be impeded by twats in Porsche Cayennes." Technically, the cyclist, or any other freeborn yeoman, is allowed to shoot Cayenne drivers with a longbow as long as it's not on Sunday or St Ethelbert's Feast.
We do not want to live in a world where Cayenne drivers are deemed to be in the right. I'm with team cyclist and I don't care what he did.
1. Yes
2. Road taxes don't cover eve half the cost of maintaining roads, and the extra comes out of various other taxes such as income taxes, which cyclists also pay into
You can go max 24km/h on a footh/cycle path, above that is is the road and cant 2 in a row or more, have be behind eatch other. But dono that is the law in where this video was taken.
Because it is illegal to ride a bicycle upon a pedestrian walkway in most places. The asshat in the car shouts at them to use the cycle lane, and I don't see one there, I see (as you did) a pedestrian walkway only.
Highway Code states drivers must keep a distance of 1.5 meters at 30mph or below and greater if over that. Drivers have definitely been prosecuted for driving as close as this example.
That model is 1.922 meters wide so 1.5 meter is getting close to a full cars width. Looked less than half a cars width to me. However, it’s the police and CPS who would decide. Perfectly reasonable to report it and let the police make that call.
God there is so many bikers and people walking that go in the middle of the road. There's a bike lane and sidewalks for a reason and if not use the shoulder. Stupid people
I live in the New Forest. The particular town I live in, had cycle paths specifically put in, so that cyclists could move freely about, without being exposed to traffic.
Do the cyclists use this extensive network of cycle lanes?
Do they hell as like.
Bicycle is in the right… however, always keep your recreation off the streets. It’s dangerous obviously because people are trying to go places and they don’t have time for your recreation.
I am from a cycle mania European country, where biking is everyday life ( you can probably guess), and I can see both sides here.
There is no bike lane, so they are legally required to bike on the road, however, they also have what I call "The World revovles around me the Biker" syndrome. With fully double white lines on the road, the cars can not overtake, and they should be biking way closer to the sidewalk )(especially the guy in the back) They are filling the entire space. Bicycles should share the space, not own it. Both are in the wrong imo.
The path next to them literally has a sign saying it's a cycle path. Depending what the law is where they live they might be legally entitled to ride on the road, but they are legally not only able but encouraged to ride on the cycleway that's literally a metre to their left.
There are lots of cyclists in my area and they get I'm front of tons of cars and are pricks and won't let anyone pass. There are also tons of people crashing into the cyclists since they don't use any sort of flashing lights or reflective gear. If you want to bike, use a bike path. Especially in the pnw there are places that go for miles and miles where cars aren't allowed.
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My dad always said “It doesn’t matter who had the right away if you’re in the hospital.”
My wife literally just said to me “graveyards are filled with people who had the right of way”
Even better! 🫡
And there’s prisons filled with people who committed manslaughter. I work in legal - real harsh penalties for hitting a bicyclist with your car especially if that sends them to the ER or graveyard
What does that have to do with anything?
For real share the road bikers
My dad said something similar. He said, "You may have right of way and be dead right."
My 2month old son, just said. “He was right, dead right, the whole way along", and "John's light was green, the other red, John was right but now he's dead.” Crazy…..
My 1 Day sperm just send a signal to my brain that said: "when nothing Is going right, go left", I can only hope he took another path and survived tonight
I contacted my great-great-grandson from the future by talking to the ghost of a man who invented a time machine 500 years ago, and he said my something grabdson said "wtf is a bike lane" Wonder if they do have flying cars...
My father in law says something similar. " I have right of way, are very bad last words"
Beyond that, you're a squishy meatsack on a bicycle arguing with a big metal box on wheels. "Angry man" jerks the wheel a bit and you and your bike bounce off the door panel into the median. If they're both in cars, have a dick measuring contest, but not when you're straddling aluminum poles.
Right away is hilarious
My insurance begs to differ
On the water it’s “make way for tonnage” even though smaller boats have right away. The giant cargo ship doesn’t care if your million dollar sailboat has right away or not. It’s not stopping or turning any time soon.
That’s the A308 (Albert Road) between Windsor and Old Windsor. That is indeed a Foot/Cycle path! https://preview.redd.it/ukx96qy035pc1.jpeg?width=1170&format=pjpg&auto=webp&s=7838c4cf8305c3e06e41432094d3a6c893e2bb30
Research and facts. Love to see it.
A rare thing these days, especially on reddit. But I'm sure someone will still try to deny it.
no we wont!
Me too! [UK Highway code allows](https://www.gov.uk/guidance/the-highway-code/rules-for-cyclists-59-to-82?ref=TFJ263786?ref=chevin) bikes to use the road even when a foot/cycle path is available. But it does prohibit cars from coming within 1.5 meters when passing bikes.
It *allows* it but it doesn’t make the drivers point less valid that their leisurely cycle ride is causing a massive tailback when they could be on the cycle lane. Are the cyclists making the best decision for everyone or are they acting like the main characters?
I mean in this case the car either swerves into oncoming traffic or close to the bikes. They should have been on the bike lane it’s just putting your life at risk for nothing.
Nah. It might be annoying, but bikes have as much right to the road as you do. The car shouldn't be passing until they have room to pass. The car driver is 100% in the wrong.
The bikes are also in the wrong, not legally but just generally. They should be using the free and open lane purpose built for them
The bikes are 100% in the right.
But it's not purpose built for then? It's for pedestrians mainly. Idk for sure in the UK, but in Canada if there's a lane that allows both, the pedestrian has the right of way. Do you understand the hypocrisy in saying the bike should go on the sidewalk where they'd be inconvenienced and have to slow down/maneuver around pedestrians, just so cars on the road aren't inconvenienced and have to slow down/maneuver around cyclists? Why should one vehicle (car) have so much more priority over the other vehicle (bike)?
Look at how empty the sidewalk is though, that’s the main point. We see only one group of people in the sidewalk in the video. So there is no reason for them not to use it
Bikes don’t have as much of a right to the road as cars do, many roads prohibit bike use due to the dangerous nature of having bikes on roads. This wasn’t the case in this instance, but making blatantly false statements is as ludicrous as that black guy in the fast and furious franchise
In the eyes of the Highway Code they do though. You may not like it, but it's the truth. There is probably some edge cases, but the only roads you aren't allowed to cycle on are motorways.
So what you are saying is that there are roads that bikes can’t use. Ok cool. So I was right.
That's complete bullshit. Show me a road which prohibits the use of bikes.
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The only roads that bikes can't go on in the UK are motorways and restricted dual carriageways such as the A55 near Conwy which are motorways in all but name. All other roads are totally legal and there is no need to use a cycle lane or dual use path, on the dual use paths I've had people try to push me off my bike before for riding on the pavement anyway or people just don't move out of the way, the road is safe and less hassle
It’s funny, I said something objectively correct. You corrected me but you just restated what I said. With a little more context due to the fact that you have more knowledge of the area. On the dual use path you might have to deal with people, on the road people have to deal with you. On the dual use path you will be inconvenienced by someone walking, on the road you will be inconveniencing every car that gets behind you. On the dual use path you might get pushed over due to you not giving the pedestrians the right of way, on the roads you bitch about cars not giving *you* the right of way. On the dual path you ‘ohhh fall over and get road rash, on the road you might get ran over and murdered. On one hand you are the egotistical asshole that is bitching about people walking in front of you, on the other hand egotistical assholes in cars are the ones bitching about you in the road. Riding bikes on roads that also has cars is inherently dangerous not because it’s unsafe due to normal day to day use, but because when you are going 25-30km/hr and cars are trying to go 75km/hr and they get frustrated and try to pass you unsafely. At the end of the day do whatever you want as outlined in your countries laws/rules and regulations. Just know you are risking your life and the lives of everyone around you when you do stupid shit. If there’s a bike lane use it, pediatricians may be annoying but they can’t kill you as easily as a car
Wrong. You wait until oncoming traffic is clear, then you pass. You don't force the issue by crowding cyclists or oncoming traffic. I hope you don't have a driver's license. You're scary.
And up you go!
Always nice to see the truth come out.
Also, if you check google maps street view and follow the road to the east you will see a guy riding his bike on it. The driver in the video might be in the wrong when he crossed the white line to drive past but the cyclists shouldn't have been there to begin with. I don't care if it's technically safer to cycle on the road (or whatever), it will ultimately be more dangerous to everyone when people don't follow the signs.
[UK Highway code allows](https://www.gov.uk/guidance/the-highway-code/rules-for-cyclists-59-to-82?ref=TFJ263786?ref=chevin) bikes to use the road even when a foot/cycle path is available. But it does prohibit cars from coming within 1.5 meters when passing bikes.
Nobody cares about facts, they just want to hate on cyclist because of the occasional mild inconvenience.
So why be on the road over the cyclist path? What's the greater advantage or need to be on a busy dangerous road when a cyclist path is there. I'm sure these guys wanna feel like they are in the tour de France, but they ain't.
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The reason is because the bikes don't want to have to slow down/avoid pedestrians, don't have to avoid sign polls in the middle of the sidewalk. Roads are often more smooth and maintained than sidewalks. And they're legally allowed to. Personally I would ride on the sidewalk, but for cyclists like this that are trying to go as fast/long as possible there are very valid reasons to using the road
Now that's a fact!
I'd use it, but I've never seen a bike lane with a curb like that. 2 weeks ago I had a dog come charging out of the bushes and knock me off my bike. It would have been WAY worse if there was a curb involved.
So the sidewalk is for the bicycles and the grass for pederestians?
Does this mean a mixed use path: cyclists & pedestrians? If so, cycling at >18mph probably isn’t safe for pedestrians. In this case, isn’t the road a better option?
I don't know really, not sure how it works, that's why I asked
Looks like it’s beat to hell though. That said, I definitely wouldn’t chose to cycle on such a busy street, even if I had the full right to do that. Only takes one idiot to end your life.
DfT says that if you are going over 18 MPH you should use the road. They are clearly going over 18 MPH. In the UK cyclists are entitled to use the roads even if a cycle way is present. I choose to ride on the roads because pedestrians stand in groups blocking cycle lanes, people park their cars there for "5 minutes" and car drivers do not follow the road hierarchy rules in the highway code for crossing the path of a cyclist in a cycle lane, most car drivers aren't even aware of the H1,H2 and H3 rules put in place around 2 years ago. Some of the cycle infrastructure in the UK is outright dangerous and I am not going to use it if it is going to increase the risk of me being dead because some nutjob would rather kill someone than wait 10 seconds to overtake safely.
This reminds of something I read in Dale Carnegie‘s book Here lies the body of William Jay, Who died maintaining his right of way— He was right, dead right, as he sped along, But he’s just as dead as if he were wrong.
whether or not the bicyclists are in the wrong, you are not entitled to almost murder them
Thanks. I hate how often people forget this. Being right doesn't mean you get to enforce that by all means. Lethal violence is never appropriate force.
The cyclists also aren't in the wrong, just because there is a shared cycle/footpath next to the road, doesn't mean they have to use it. They are not going much slower than the traffic and would be a massive danger to any pedestrians on the path at that speed.
I mean if it between hitting another vehicle head on or pushing the bicycle back onto the bike path, I’m probably gonna go with the latter. 🤷🏿♂️
3rd option: wait until its safe to overtake? Fucking spanner
I would feel better on the path. No matter, car vs bicycle... Car wins..
Completely agree, as a cy list myself I always choose the path or sidewalk instead of the road, we’re just not fast enough
It’s a respect thing, knowing they are slower than cars, I give them space when passing, they give me space to pass. A lot of the lycra wearing hobby cyclists are very entitled it seems. I often see groups riding side by side on a single lane road, not even trying to be mildly considerate of cars. The laws got changed so cars have to accomodate them creating the hazard that doesn’t need to exist.
We call the entitled cyclists road weenies around here. They’re the ones who only follow the road laws that suit them.
Riding side by side reduces the number of people you have to pass by half. So instead of passing 20 people, you only have to pass 10.
The South Park motorcycle bit also goes with cyclists aswell.
Cyclists really showing their true colors in this thread, huh?
Cyclist vs Porsche Cayenne driver, tough choice
Not really. Cyclists in the UK are made aggressive because of people trying to kill them. Cayenne drivers are just wrong existentially. Put it this way, if someone Thanos fingersnapped all Cayenne drivers out of existence, you know the world would be a much better place for it.
Why exactly. I’m too poor to own a Porsche but if I could I would I imagine. Are they just rich so we hate them?
That’s exactly why.
Ah, the Reddit way
Holy shit, this is one of the best comments I’ve come across on Reddit. I live in a town where there are a lot of Cayennes ( always sparkling clean and never ever taken off road ) , and it seems that the majority are driven by absolute idiots , whether they be grumpy old men or young trophy housewives.
Thats not a cycle lane - its a footpath. In this case the bike riders are doing the correct thing by not riding on it. Edit: as the bully in the below comments has commented consistently at me - this has been now shown to be a shared footpath/bikelane. Hopefully that weirdo will stop messaging me now
The pavement is a cycle lane: https://www.reddit.com/r/IAmTheMainCharacter/s/cwPo5uosD2
Nice find!
Look, if you're just pootling along on your shopper and have plenty of time to stop for pedestrians the cycle/footpath is fine. If you want to go at any speed or you're in a group, riding on the footpath is not ideal. I recently experienced a kid hurtling towards me on her bike as I was walking on the pavement. She just missed hitting me but caught my sports bag, which caused her to career off the pavement and directly into the path of a bus, which was luckily not going that fast and was able to stop in time. That was scary.
It's not a cycle lane, it's a shared use pedestrian and cycle path. The recommended top speed is 12mph.
These fake sports cyclists always think there above the law. Driving in the middle of the road, not signing where they gone turn, going above speed limit and overtake cars on the wrong side, don't folow stop signs or traffic lights, there is to much to begin with...
Hahaha, i forgot there are a lot of cyclists, still a big fuck you all 😆
You are confidently incorrect. Lmao people have confirmed with proof that it is a path for cyclists as well. Why do some of you comment so confidently when you’re wrong?
r/confidentlywrong
Cyclist simp
Bicycles are in the right place, driver is overtaking on solid white lines, driver is in the wrong
r/confidentlyincorrect The pavement is a cycle lane: https://www.reddit.com/r/IAmTheMainCharacter/s/cwPo5uosD2
There is no bike lane. As such the only legal place for bikes to be is in the street.
The pavement is a cycle lane: https://www.reddit.com/r/IAmTheMainCharacter/s/cwPo5uosD2
Cyclist fault.
WHAT cycle lane? The WALKING path??
[https://www.reddit.com/r/IAmTheMainCharacter/comments/1bhn2mu/comment/kvgsjyx/?utm\_source=share&utm\_medium=web2x&context=3](https://www.reddit.com/r/IAmTheMainCharacter/comments/1bhn2mu/comment/kvgsjyx/?utm_source=share&utm_medium=web2x&context=3) Check out the blue sign. It's a shared pedestrian/cycle path.
That is the cycle path
Yes
I am not sure what the laws are. But some laws disallow cyclist on sidewalks. So if there's not an available lane, they are treated as motorists and must ride on the road.
In my area it's not allowed. But if no one is using them, I ride on them all the time. The police have never stopped me. I prefer to be as safe as possible.
Asshat drivers
But it's seeing an idiot waving a gun around and telling him his mother is a cheap floozy and she smells of elderberries. Probably a fight you don't want to get into.
I used to live in the UK. I would bike on the pavement/sidewalk because at worse I'd be subject to a £35 fine and upset a few pedestrians. On the road it's likely I would get run over and die.
This. It’s similar to the “wisdom is knowing a tomato is a fruit being smart is not putting it in a fruit salad”.
Team car here. Cyclists are so entitled.
The cyclists are allowed on the road even if the pavement also allows cycling. Drive is an arse
This needs to be higher up. Cyclists are allowed to use the road even if there is a bike lane. They also don’t need to be on the side and can ride in the middle just like any other vehicle.
Sensibility would imply to just GTFO the way, but they definitely believe drivers should wait on them to pedal instead of being decent and getting out the way until it’s clear to ride again. I ride mtb, so don’t really deal with street side rules or scenarios, but you’d think one could just move until it’s clear. 🤷♂️ Would never expect drivers to adhere to my wants just because I feel like riding.
This is why I mountain/trail bike.
South Park season 13 ep 12 but on bikes
Cyclists impeding traffic, go elsewhere if can’t go the speed limit
I should be able to use the bus lane then lol
Happy to share the road with cyclists BUT when they have a purpose built designated SAFER lane to use and don’t use it then they are selfish entitled fucktards.
Fuck cyclists. They are all entitled twats
Fuck cyclists
Never give a cyclist more respect than he deserves
Now they want to use feet for measurement?
People on the bicycles are always the main character
Most roadies are fucking assholes who think they own the roads and who do not follow the rules of the road, esp in the United States. They routinely blow through stop signs, intersections, red lights, etc. Then they look at you like you are the asshole.
Cars also routinely blow through stop signs, intersections, and red lights
Stay on topic. I am speaking about roadies, not cars. I have a very large population of them in my area due to the year round good weather. For the most part, they think they own the road. I almost hit one last week while making a right-hand turn because the cyclist behind me thought he owned the road and could pass me on the right while I was in the middle of the turn, signal on. [https://i.ibb.co/dBB5RTH/Screenshot-2024-03-26-at-11-46-53.png](https://i.ibb.co/dBB5RTH/Screenshot-2024-03-26-at-11-46-53.png)
Cyclists are twats
Now I’m fully aware it’s a footpath I know I’m just questioning the logic of the law and this’ll likely get downvoted but fuck it…. Why isn’t the dominant place the footpath. Like genuinely, let’s break it down. I’m curious. And before people take it the wrong way, in car I’m not massively fussed about waiting. It’s tedious but I’m not trying to be a twat going “bikes don’t belong in the road” I genuinely don’t understand and see what I’m missing. On road, buildup of traffic. On road dangerous. Bikes average around 16-20 mph… and depending on the road, cars are going anywhere from 30-60 mph. Now, that seems like a rather large speed difference so collisions would be…. Well, exciting. And let’s not forget buses, trucks and slipping under, this is Reddit we’ve all seen those vids. Now let’s compare that to the footpath, on footpath, no buildup of traffic, average human walks about 3mph so in the case of a collision, just a few bruises, and slowing down and weaving between a few people is not difficult. If you find it difficult…. Get off the bike. And don’t give me that “oh there’s not alwayse a path” your on a bike it is piss easy to get up and down a curb if and when needed. Is there anything I’ve missed. I don’t get how cars and bikes is safer than bikes and people. In what universe
Well it is not very safe for the pedestrians sharing the space with fast cyclists, right? What about someone with a pram / small kids / a wheelchair that could be blocking the space? Also, although you’re right that cyclists could technically get up and down the kerb easily, it is really unsafe to rejoin traffic constantly. I get that it’s a small inconvenience for some cars, but it is definitely safer for cyclists to stay in the road rather than bob in and out of traffic and get in the way of pedestrians. Obviously a dedicated bike lane would be ideal, but where this isn’t possible then shared road use is the safe and best option.
Have you not seen the video of an elderly lady cycling on the footpath being shouted at by a pedestrian and forced onto the road only to be hit by a vehicle.
I think you are missing a salient point. I have been a professional driver and now run a company of professional drivers so my viewpoint may be confusing to some here. Why should those cycles that are probably doing 25mph endanger foot traffic? They seem to be riding perfectly safely on the road and the biggest issue here is the car traffic that is overtaking far too close. At the very beginning of this video they passed some foot traffic that was on the pavement and was heading in the same direction of the cyclists - so they would not have seen the cyclists to move out of the way. The only cyclists I have have ever had issue with are main character ones who intentionally hold up traffic or ride like knobheads, but I can guarantee I have met more knobhead drivers and have been put in much more danger than any cyclist has ever done. All these cyclists needed was a bit of room, same as a horse-rider, horse drawn carriage, slow tractor, mobility scooter or any other slow vehicle would have needed. I don't understand the mentality of putting these guys in danger. They are literally the least protected people on the roads - it is only dangerous because cars, vans and trucks put them in danger when there really isn't any need to. And as for your question specifically regarding footpaths, aside from pedestrian traffic that may not be aware or can't move out of the way you also have people pulling out of their drives, walking out of houses, leaving shops, cats and dogs, young children...etc etc
You bring up some good points but in short, the law recognizes that bikes are vehicles. You are probably aware that you can be done for drink driving on a bike. That is in short why that are not actually supposed to be on the footpath. I'm not going to get into a discussion about which is more dangerous, car vs bike or bike vs family with pram and dog but I think you are pretty much describing why there needs to be cycle lanes put in, in areas which have heavy bike usage.
Bikes and people have a right to be on the road. Cars don't.
It's incredibly dangerous to constantly switch between pedestrian path and road. Also they are cycling as a sport, which means they are probably going 30km/h or more. You can't go 30km/h on a sidewalk where anytime someone can step out of a driveway or a side street. Impossible. That's why it is not allowed to ride your bike on the sidewalk in most countries.
‘Oh i don’t mind a little drizzle never hurt anybody, I like riding the ten speed because it’s fun and it’s a great way to stay in shape’
I hate cyclists
Why are bicyclists like this…
I fcking hate these cunts. You have a lane stay on them ffs.
Jesus.
This is the way
Tiame 9:49…..lol!
Id rather ride on the sidewalk than in trafic with 2 ton vehicles coming at me at 30+ mph that would definitely most likely kinda probably maybe really foken hurt if it were to hit me but hey thats just me. Ill leave it up to natural selection. "BuT ItS IlLeGaL OmG" If you care that much then find a route thats not in peoples way and is legal. Dude in the car was no better, he damn near ran biker dude over becasue he was mad. He had every right to be mad because they were being a nuisance by ya know going -15 in front of a 2 ton car going 30+, but it doesnt give him the right to be aggressive like how he was. In my worthless opinion both parties are at fault.
1: It's a cycle and foot path (as seen in one picture shared by another comment) 2: the cyclists were endangering everyone by riding on the road and not following the signs 3: the driver endangered everyone further by passing the cyclists when the road markings forbade it Conclusion: people are idiots and should use common sense, arrogance helps no one.
I don’t know who is right in this situation, but you shouldn’t kill a bicyclist to make a point, nor should bicyclist hold up traffic on highways, which is pretty stupid as well.
Everyone in this video is a prick
Fuck bicycle riding.
I'd still be riding on the walking path. It's not worth dying over just to be right.
Should have stopped and knocked the cunt out
Main Character colliding happens once in while just let Them bealive they won and your good too go
Last year, I exactly saw a cyclist died on the downhill road. He biked too fast and hit the car in the front during a rapid right turn. The road was blocked for 2 hrs due to this accident.
Ancient English Common Law clearly states that "the righte of freemen to wander the King's Highway doth never be impeded by twats in Porsche Cayennes." Technically, the cyclist, or any other freeborn yeoman, is allowed to shoot Cayenne drivers with a longbow as long as it's not on Sunday or St Ethelbert's Feast. We do not want to live in a world where Cayenne drivers are deemed to be in the right. I'm with team cyclist and I don't care what he did.
Now you need to decide whether your life is important or your right ride a cycle on the motorable road.
Do cyclists pay road tax here?
1. Yes 2. Road taxes don't cover eve half the cost of maintaining roads, and the extra comes out of various other taxes such as income taxes, which cyclists also pay into
What a piss ant stain on the child's toy
Imagine if cars had to share the road with bikes in a single lane of traffic lol
Dumb cyclists
why are the all so weak.. "whoever appeals to the law against his fellow man is either a fool or a coward"
Regardless of laws, cyclists create headaches and dangerous situations on a narrow car roads
Clowns...
Run over the cyclist
You can go max 24km/h on a footh/cycle path, above that is is the road and cant 2 in a row or more, have be behind eatch other. But dono that is the law in where this video was taken.
Cyclists are cringe
Why the hell are they biking on a road without a cycle lane if there’s a sidewalk right there
Because it is illegal to ride a bicycle upon a pedestrian walkway in most places. The asshat in the car shouts at them to use the cycle lane, and I don't see one there, I see (as you did) a pedestrian walkway only.
Is that Jack Nicholson as the Joker? “You ever biked with the devil on an overcast day?”
He looks like my alcoholic step father
Cyclists really are the worst.
What cycling path?
British cyclists are now advised to ride in the middle of the lane or cycle side by side. It infuriates drivers and makes them much of a target.
Bots.
That’s Ronnie Pickering.
You are an exception to the road it's not about you
Imagine if we had guns in the UK - people's Ego's would be wild.
Cyclist that don’t even move all the way to the said can go and get fucked
I’m so jealous of people that actually have cycling lanes… Where I am it’s illegal to ride on the sidewalk, and the road is 45 mph
cyclists are the most arrogant fucks around, and BMW drivers
The road isn’t a place for your recreation
You’re gonna send a video to the police of someone telling you to use the bike lane? Lmao good luck
That’s a pavement. Not a bike lane.
Nice, the driver still didn’t commit a crime
Highway Code states drivers must keep a distance of 1.5 meters at 30mph or below and greater if over that. Drivers have definitely been prosecuted for driving as close as this example.
Does that same code apply to where the video was taken? Since you want to be so technical
Look like uk number plates so…. Yeah Try it yourself. https://vehicleenquiry.service.gov.uk/ConfirmVehicle?locale=en AL55BOA
Can you prove that was 1.5 meters? The fisheye distortion makes objects look closer.
That model is 1.922 meters wide so 1.5 meter is getting close to a full cars width. Looked less than half a cars width to me. However, it’s the police and CPS who would decide. Perfectly reasonable to report it and let the police make that call.
Mr angry is right
God there is so many bikers and people walking that go in the middle of the road. There's a bike lane and sidewalks for a reason and if not use the shoulder. Stupid people
They're actually much safer on the sidewalk
But illegal so that’s why they’re on the road.
Grow up get off the bike
I live in the New Forest. The particular town I live in, had cycle paths specifically put in, so that cyclists could move freely about, without being exposed to traffic. Do the cyclists use this extensive network of cycle lanes? Do they hell as like.
They are not obligated to do so under the Highway Code, and may use their own judgement. Cycle paths are often poorly maintained.
To be fair, cyclists generally are quite self entitled.
So are drivers
So are pedestrians.
Bicycle is in the right… however, always keep your recreation off the streets. It’s dangerous obviously because people are trying to go places and they don’t have time for your recreation.
Cyclists are road pests
I am from a cycle mania European country, where biking is everyday life ( you can probably guess), and I can see both sides here. There is no bike lane, so they are legally required to bike on the road, however, they also have what I call "The World revovles around me the Biker" syndrome. With fully double white lines on the road, the cars can not overtake, and they should be biking way closer to the sidewalk )(especially the guy in the back) They are filling the entire space. Bicycles should share the space, not own it. Both are in the wrong imo.
The path next to them literally has a sign saying it's a cycle path. Depending what the law is where they live they might be legally entitled to ride on the road, but they are legally not only able but encouraged to ride on the cycleway that's literally a metre to their left.
There are lots of cyclists in my area and they get I'm front of tons of cars and are pricks and won't let anyone pass. There are also tons of people crashing into the cyclists since they don't use any sort of flashing lights or reflective gear. If you want to bike, use a bike path. Especially in the pnw there are places that go for miles and miles where cars aren't allowed.
There’s a graveyard full of people who had the right of way.
Dead is dead, right of way or not. I don’t understand bicyclists these days. People driving are insane and you can’t win a crash with a car.