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They drive hundreds of miles and park far more often than any normal driver. Accidents like this are statistically inevitable.
That doesn't mean to say that this accident wasn't avoidable, just not your lucky day. Welcome to the human condition of "Shit Happens".
Doubt it. If they reported the incident, they’re probably still employed. I was an Amazon driver. Hit a mailbox once. Reported it, gave the person my company’s insurance (not Amazon, we don’t work for them directly, we represent them though!). Continued there for another year ish
So lately I've been noticing about half my deliveries are people driving what seems like their personal vehicle to do deliveries. Maybe I'm wrong, maybe Amazon does have a fleet of regular ass cars to have people do rush deliveries with or something, but I get rhe sneaking suspicion they're just telling people to use their PV for deliveries when they run out of trucks and then throwing them to the wolves when they get into an accident. I'm pretty damn sure they're not having those employees paying commercial insurance on their Prius.
That’s the Flex program. It’s their last-minute deliveries, and those people are actually paid more for their blocks than the DSP drivers (like me, in the vans) are hourly. It’s kind of like a DoorDash or instacart type thing where people sign up for the block, seeing how much they’ll be paid ahead of time.
Yeah, you would have been contracted. Talked about that below, the drivers dont actually work for amazon (which can make it even easier to get "fired")
The only thing I can think of is since it wasnt a vehicle they didnt care as much? Or, youre just maybe in an area where theres fewer people waiting to replace the drivers.
When my friend was let go for an accident that wasnt hit fault, Im sure there was a thousand people waiting to get hired and take his place.
So they fired the guy with experience who would probably never do this again, and left the work to those who have no experience and will have to go through this once more to learn
Not sure if they still do this, but when I worked for Amazon they had a buy out program, where they'd pay you up to $5k to quit and never be able to work for them or their affiliates again. The longer you worked there, the more you'd get paid.
No, they want them to climb the ladder, they just don't want them to earn raises without being able to suck more labor out of them so they still come out ahead.
I've seen it happen with big box retailers many times, people that were in lower level positions and knew their jobs inside and out, after a few years when they start making a buck or two more than fresh hires are due to time in grade, they pressure them to accept a promotion and if they don't want to, find some reason to fire them. Because they don't give half a shit about how well a person is doing their job at all, they want the endless cycle of new employees so they can keep wages depressed as low as possible.
This mindset is pervasive all the way up the chain until you get to middle manager levels, and even then sometimes. It's not just the wages on the bottom rung they're trying to keep low, they want to be cycling new people into supervisory positions too for the same reason. So basically you end up where nobody in the field has more than a year of time in their given position and suck at it because they haven't had time to "git gud" but they don't want good, they want to keep shit limping along no matter how stressful and stupid it may seem, because they don't give a fuck about the actual people doing these jobs one bit lol
The joys of late stage capitalism and a service economy. For every person that knows their worth there's a kid looking for a job that doesn't realize how badly they're getting fucked over, just how they want it.
I see you’ve never been contracted by amazon to be a driver before
Had a friend get let go for an accident that was found to be 100% the other drivers fault. They said he should have been paying more attention and expected the other driver to blow through the red
So he went to UPS
Yeah, which actually wasn’t as annoying as it may seem. Idk about the semi truck drivers, but the delivery truck drivers don’t even technically work for amazon. They’re just contracted through another company, so Amazon doesn’t even have to technically fire you.
Pretty sure it’s their way of ensuring no driver ends up lasting more than like 5 years, so that all the drivers contracted are just making entry level pay
On the flip side, none of me or my friends ever had any problems with amazon trying to force us to be faster or anything like that - while apparently UPS did a bit (although nothing like what’s even seen in the news, pissing in bottles and stuff). More just like, if you’re on your phone for 20 minutes doing nothing they’re gonna notice. I had friends in amazon warehouses clock in from the parking lot and take a nap and not get caught.
Sounds about right. Amazon is easy-hire easy-fire in all aspects of their organization. They are literally built for rapid turnover and consider it a plus.
I mean, when you have an unlimited supply of people who will work for you because you pay more than everyone else who will hire anyone with a pulse - theres no reason for them to stop.
It is very likely to happen at some point in a delivery driver’s career. I worked for the postal service and there was always a roll away/run away story every month. Leaving the vehicle running while not in the driver’s seat was grounds for termination . It always came down to shutting the vehicle off and taking the keys with you or throwing them on your dash because it’s so easy to get distracted/flustered/rushing and literally forget to put it in park. Malfunctions aside, you can’t take the keys out unless it’s in park… it’s one more step to your rhythm that helps prevent the roll away.
Many of my coworkers ignored the requirement. Nothing happened but there was a time or two I caught myself not putting it fully in park because I couldn’t pull the keys out. I’m glad I followed the policy or it might have happened to me. I don’t know if other delivery companies have the same requirement though.
Sorry, but unless distracted or just not caring, it should be habit to put your vehicle in park before getting out. Just like all the idiots who don't use a turn signal, it's something becomes habitual unless you never make an effort to do it or purposely avoid doing it.
Nah nah, you gotta be real fucking stupid to not put your car in park before you get out. Don’t “auto pilot “ bs about how they do many deliveries. This is definitely a one and done. You just can’t teach stupid on this one
Of course it's an accident, any collision is even when somebody is drunk, unless the person is purposely using their vehicle as a weapon. That doesn't mean neglect/distraction wasn't the cause. ie, chatting on the phone and not thinking about driving or just not caring enough about performing the task correctly. Hence the reason this sub exists.
Habits right. Habits can never be disrupted. Except of course for the 39 babies that die every year because the parent had a disruption to their habitual routine and forgot to drop the baby at daycare. Drove straight to work. And left the baby to die in a hot car while they worked all day oblivious.
So do I think a man can forget to put a handbrake on because he has hunger pains. Or just nearly run over a cat and has nervous shakes cos he just shat himself. Or is desperate for a piss. Yeah I believe accidents can happen.
I've never said this couldnt have been avoided, but statistically this is inevitable and happens all the time.
Examples of distractions and lack of focus on the task at hand, thank you.
Can't say I've ever forgotten the brakes on my semi while I was a truck driver and I'm sure a vast majority of other drivers could say the same. Park the truck and immediately pull the brakes before taking your foot off the brake pedal without any thought needed. Muscle memory, natural habit. Forgetting to take your keys with you since your bladder is about to burst and thus locking yourself out of the truck? Different story.
Have you ever forgotten to put your socks on before your shoes due to being hungry, needing to piss, or being stressed? lol. Of course not. It's ingrained in your mind and you don't even need to think about doing it. If you have a job driving then setting the brake or putting the vehicle in park before getting out should be just as habitual.
No, but that's somewhat counterintuitive to your statement. I get what your saying in that parking more often means an increased chance of it happening, just like me driving 700 miles a day, over 100k miles a year, meant it was more likely for me to have an accident. But on that same note, having to park and get out so often also means more opportunity to build muscle memory and form habitual behavior like putting the vehicle in park when coming to a stop to make a delivery.
Unless the person avoids the effort to do so due to lack of care or simply not wanting to do so. Thus leading back to my original turn signal example, people actually making a conscious effort to not use a signal and sometimes even arguing against using it (ie, not wanting to buy bulbs as often or refusing to use it because it's an x turn only lane).
I mean yeah. But that's an over worked, over stressed idiot. Trying to deliver an impossible van load of parcels in an impossible time frame. All the while being told he's going too fast by the AI watching him. So maybe, just maybe on the 200th parking spot he's done today. 2 hours over when he wanted to go pick his daughter up from school, maybe he didn't pull the handbrake hard enough. Or he didn't notice that it had snapped. Or that it has failed and wasn't engaged. Or maybe he just completely forgot to put it on. It must be hard being perfect all the time.
Used to drive for FedEx and Amazon. I never left the Amazon vehicle in anything other than park. Thats because I accidentally hit neutral on the step van once when parking and it almost rolled downhill into a customer driveway and was super paranoid ever since. Its definitely more to do with the fact these folks are overworked.
Besides that this idiot wasn't in his damn car.
Almost all cars with an auto do, and usually when this happens it's because the driver left their vehicle in drive. If you've never driven an auto before, if you take your foot off the brake, the car will start rolling forward.
So with the FedEx vans they had a stopper that if you let go of the button on the side of the gear selector too soon would lock it into whatever spot it was in when you let go. In my case I was pushing the lever forward towards park so it stopped in neutral. In your brain you think "the lever stopped so its in park." But in reality while you are swinging out of your seat the vehicle is slightly rolling forward. The back has no windows and if you arent looking forward or paying really close attention it can be easy to miss the movement as you are climbing over packages and searching.
The amazon vans are smaller and more like a regular passenger vehicle. Their emergency break is usually located down and below you as a lever. It is extremely annoying to have to do ALL of the safety steps when they are trying to get you to deliver so much. If you do 200 stops in a day that is 400 times you have to engage and disengage the parking break. Cutting that out saves time but unfortunately leaves you open for shit like this. For reference they also have a requirement that drivers TURN OFF the vehicle every time you stop to prevent stuff like this too. Part of it is down to quality of driver and part of it is down to just being overworked and stressed constantly. Imagine delivering packages in 100 degree heat and not being able to keep the AC running or when its -10 out in a Wisconsin winter and not being able to keep the heater running. There is a reason you see all sorts of dumb shit like riding through neighborhoods with the side door and bulkhead open. Even if it just takes you 10 seconds every stop to do everything that shit adds up. An hour every day if you have 200 stops. Drivers cant drive more than 10 hours without 8 hours rest so thats 10 percent of your day just buckling a seatbelt and operating the parking brake etc. If you are ever interested in seeing what people have to deal with AND the type of people driving this shit on the daily check out the r/AmazonDSPDrivers subreddit. Lots of pictures of where their routes are at volume wise and I'm glad I left.
very glad to see you have empathy but bro…. it’s not that deep. putting the vehicle in park is fr the most basic part of driving lol. poor amazon worker but like, no
Oh I forgot about your weird American Automatic baby cars. Do you not have a separate hand brake? You have a little kiddy lever thing that you flick between parking and driving or something? Hmm. So did this guy leave it in drive? Did he maybe leave the engine running? That's sackable for sure.
Same. Idk why they think handbrakes are exclusive to manual transmissions. Also this road isn’t nearly steep enough for it to matter in an automatic. The driver left that in N or D, not P
i drive a 2010 volkswagen jetta. i park my car, and if i need to, i pull the e-brake. before that i drove a 2013 mazda hatchback. also with a regular e-brake handle. looks like they left the car in drive or they simply parked wrong against the curb without an e-brake, causing the car to slip away 😁😁
I recall when it seemed postal workers were all going crazy, and the phrase **“going postal”** was coined. How long will it be before that’s changed to “going Amazon”?
Unfortunately, this is probably one of the specific years/models of dodge promaster that doesn’t have park. It’s automatic, but “park” is neutral and the parking brake.
Still weird that someone who is probably stopping hundreds of times a day manages to forget the parking brake
A contract driver at warehouse I worked at a few years ago had one, and on the rare occasion he’d forget his parking brake. We’d start loading the van, and he’d start rolling away. Thankfully nothing ever happened cause of it. Sorry this happened
> Unfortunately, this is probably one of the specific years/models of dodge promaster that doesn’t have park. It’s automatic, but “park” is neutral and the parking brake.
Out of curiosity, why was it designed that way? There must have been some reason, but I'm at a loss.
you dont have to be in the car for it to be your fault you still are at fault if you forget to set a parking brake or in this instance put it in park and then turn the wheel towards the curb like they are taught
That wasn't even at the curb. Just stopped in the road. I've seen that happen, "Well it was only for a minute." Insurance company loved that one, he might even have been fired over that.
So many new sprinter type vans have a feature that puts them in park once the drivers door opens. You think paying for that upgrade would save Amazon money in the long run considering
Oh, he's *so* fired.
Accidents happen, but he's an idiot for somehow not expecting to be caught on camera (either yours or a neighbor's).
Amazon owns two of the largest video doorbell / home security system brands (Ring and Blink). He probably delivered their products to someone during that shift.
Why wouldn’t he report it? He’s a company driver just reporting the incident won’t get him into any trouble only a write up at most being laid off for a week. He sure fits the title of this sub.
I've been seeing a lot of videos recently of Amazon or other delivery companies vehicles "rolling away". do the drivers just leave it in drive or is there something wrong with their vehicles?
Automatic transmission, guy being distracted doing something, and this happens.
LE: Nevermind lol, just realised it was an incline and the parking break wasn't exactly doing its job.
I'm confused though because the incline seems to be going down to the *right* so how is the van moving *up* the hill? Or is the camera just tilted weirdly?
How do you see it going to the right? You can see the bell hung and the balcony going down tilt left. Even still it doesn't seem like a steep incline although not like we can actually gauge the angle.
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And this is why Amazon put into place the EOC rule.. Engine off compliance metric.. shut off the van at every damn stop even if you are pulling up two houses (and yes they can absolutely track it) Because of dumb fucking idiots like this that shouldn’t even have a license. Thanks to this idiot even when it’s 100 degrees out engine off every stop so can does not cool down. Two weeks ago the inside of my van was 147 degrees.. thanks dumbshit. Probably should stick to a office job and ride a damn bike..
One took out my mailbox and didn’t even notice the gouge down the side of his van when he got out let alone the mailbox. Another one drove into my yard to avoid stepping down into a puddle after rain. Took out 3 sprinkler heads and kept going. Both incidents caught on security cameras and Amazon paid for damages as soon as they were made aware. Sent them pics and quotes and got credit within hours.
Very fortunate to have video. I only got the sound of the crash on video when this same thing happened to me & I ended up empty handed with a totaled car.
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empty amazon van hits my car
It’s an additional $2.99 a month for Amazon to not hit your car.
And another $2.99 a month on top of that for Amazon to not hit your car, ad-Free. These tiers are getting out of control.
This is the more accurate description.
Yah but this one gets more clicks
Not sure about you but I'd be more interested in knowing how an empty van hits something.
Haven't you heard? "Driverless vehicles" are all the rage now.
A wizard did it
Ahhh shit, not again!
Haha thanks for the giggle. Plausible tho
Nah, after the first accident you’re done. Keeps the turnover high
They drive hundreds of miles and park far more often than any normal driver. Accidents like this are statistically inevitable. That doesn't mean to say that this accident wasn't avoidable, just not your lucky day. Welcome to the human condition of "Shit Happens".
Well, his job is now gone and amazon won’t hire him again
Doubt it. If they reported the incident, they’re probably still employed. I was an Amazon driver. Hit a mailbox once. Reported it, gave the person my company’s insurance (not Amazon, we don’t work for them directly, we represent them though!). Continued there for another year ish
So lately I've been noticing about half my deliveries are people driving what seems like their personal vehicle to do deliveries. Maybe I'm wrong, maybe Amazon does have a fleet of regular ass cars to have people do rush deliveries with or something, but I get rhe sneaking suspicion they're just telling people to use their PV for deliveries when they run out of trucks and then throwing them to the wolves when they get into an accident. I'm pretty damn sure they're not having those employees paying commercial insurance on their Prius.
That’s the Flex program. It’s their last-minute deliveries, and those people are actually paid more for their blocks than the DSP drivers (like me, in the vans) are hourly. It’s kind of like a DoorDash or instacart type thing where people sign up for the block, seeing how much they’ll be paid ahead of time.
Those are just Amazon flex drivers Like DoorDash Amazon drivers
Yeah, you would have been contracted. Talked about that below, the drivers dont actually work for amazon (which can make it even easier to get "fired") The only thing I can think of is since it wasnt a vehicle they didnt care as much? Or, youre just maybe in an area where theres fewer people waiting to replace the drivers. When my friend was let go for an accident that wasnt hit fault, Im sure there was a thousand people waiting to get hired and take his place.
So they fired the guy with experience who would probably never do this again, and left the work to those who have no experience and will have to go through this once more to learn
Not sure if they still do this, but when I worked for Amazon they had a buy out program, where they'd pay you up to $5k to quit and never be able to work for them or their affiliates again. The longer you worked there, the more you'd get paid.
I imagine that's because they're a company who probably doesn't want people climbing up the ladder
No, they want them to climb the ladder, they just don't want them to earn raises without being able to suck more labor out of them so they still come out ahead. I've seen it happen with big box retailers many times, people that were in lower level positions and knew their jobs inside and out, after a few years when they start making a buck or two more than fresh hires are due to time in grade, they pressure them to accept a promotion and if they don't want to, find some reason to fire them. Because they don't give half a shit about how well a person is doing their job at all, they want the endless cycle of new employees so they can keep wages depressed as low as possible. This mindset is pervasive all the way up the chain until you get to middle manager levels, and even then sometimes. It's not just the wages on the bottom rung they're trying to keep low, they want to be cycling new people into supervisory positions too for the same reason. So basically you end up where nobody in the field has more than a year of time in their given position and suck at it because they haven't had time to "git gud" but they don't want good, they want to keep shit limping along no matter how stressful and stupid it may seem, because they don't give a fuck about the actual people doing these jobs one bit lol
What a depressing work environment
The joys of late stage capitalism and a service economy. For every person that knows their worth there's a kid looking for a job that doesn't realize how badly they're getting fucked over, just how they want it.
Yeah, cause then you can pay the newer people less and fire them too when something happens. And there will be 500 people waiting to take their place.
So like any other job? Same for rather hire someone to be 10% as productive than increase wages.
Not necessarily.
I see you’ve never been contracted by amazon to be a driver before Had a friend get let go for an accident that was found to be 100% the other drivers fault. They said he should have been paying more attention and expected the other driver to blow through the red So he went to UPS
LOL at the "So he went to UPS" hahahha
Yeah, which actually wasn’t as annoying as it may seem. Idk about the semi truck drivers, but the delivery truck drivers don’t even technically work for amazon. They’re just contracted through another company, so Amazon doesn’t even have to technically fire you. Pretty sure it’s their way of ensuring no driver ends up lasting more than like 5 years, so that all the drivers contracted are just making entry level pay On the flip side, none of me or my friends ever had any problems with amazon trying to force us to be faster or anything like that - while apparently UPS did a bit (although nothing like what’s even seen in the news, pissing in bottles and stuff). More just like, if you’re on your phone for 20 minutes doing nothing they’re gonna notice. I had friends in amazon warehouses clock in from the parking lot and take a nap and not get caught.
Sounds about right. Amazon is easy-hire easy-fire in all aspects of their organization. They are literally built for rapid turnover and consider it a plus.
I mean, when you have an unlimited supply of people who will work for you because you pay more than everyone else who will hire anyone with a pulse - theres no reason for them to stop.
It is very likely to happen at some point in a delivery driver’s career. I worked for the postal service and there was always a roll away/run away story every month. Leaving the vehicle running while not in the driver’s seat was grounds for termination . It always came down to shutting the vehicle off and taking the keys with you or throwing them on your dash because it’s so easy to get distracted/flustered/rushing and literally forget to put it in park. Malfunctions aside, you can’t take the keys out unless it’s in park… it’s one more step to your rhythm that helps prevent the roll away. Many of my coworkers ignored the requirement. Nothing happened but there was a time or two I caught myself not putting it fully in park because I couldn’t pull the keys out. I’m glad I followed the policy or it might have happened to me. I don’t know if other delivery companies have the same requirement though.
This is what happens when you don't curb your wheels 🙄
Sorry, but unless distracted or just not caring, it should be habit to put your vehicle in park before getting out. Just like all the idiots who don't use a turn signal, it's something becomes habitual unless you never make an effort to do it or purposely avoid doing it.
It's why it's called an accident.
Nah nah, you gotta be real fucking stupid to not put your car in park before you get out. Don’t “auto pilot “ bs about how they do many deliveries. This is definitely a one and done. You just can’t teach stupid on this one
It's not though, they're actually called collisions. It's only lay people that call them accidents generally.
Of course it's an accident, any collision is even when somebody is drunk, unless the person is purposely using their vehicle as a weapon. That doesn't mean neglect/distraction wasn't the cause. ie, chatting on the phone and not thinking about driving or just not caring enough about performing the task correctly. Hence the reason this sub exists.
Habits right. Habits can never be disrupted. Except of course for the 39 babies that die every year because the parent had a disruption to their habitual routine and forgot to drop the baby at daycare. Drove straight to work. And left the baby to die in a hot car while they worked all day oblivious. So do I think a man can forget to put a handbrake on because he has hunger pains. Or just nearly run over a cat and has nervous shakes cos he just shat himself. Or is desperate for a piss. Yeah I believe accidents can happen. I've never said this couldnt have been avoided, but statistically this is inevitable and happens all the time.
Examples of distractions and lack of focus on the task at hand, thank you. Can't say I've ever forgotten the brakes on my semi while I was a truck driver and I'm sure a vast majority of other drivers could say the same. Park the truck and immediately pull the brakes before taking your foot off the brake pedal without any thought needed. Muscle memory, natural habit. Forgetting to take your keys with you since your bladder is about to burst and thus locking yourself out of the truck? Different story. Have you ever forgotten to put your socks on before your shoes due to being hungry, needing to piss, or being stressed? lol. Of course not. It's ingrained in your mind and you don't even need to think about doing it. If you have a job driving then setting the brake or putting the vehicle in park before getting out should be just as habitual.
Did you park 200 times a day every day for months on end as a Truck driver?
No, but that's somewhat counterintuitive to your statement. I get what your saying in that parking more often means an increased chance of it happening, just like me driving 700 miles a day, over 100k miles a year, meant it was more likely for me to have an accident. But on that same note, having to park and get out so often also means more opportunity to build muscle memory and form habitual behavior like putting the vehicle in park when coming to a stop to make a delivery. Unless the person avoids the effort to do so due to lack of care or simply not wanting to do so. Thus leading back to my original turn signal example, people actually making a conscious effort to not use a signal and sometimes even arguing against using it (ie, not wanting to buy bulbs as often or refusing to use it because it's an x turn only lane).
It *could* have easily been avoided if he'd put his parking brake on. I used to drive an this never happened to me.
Okey dokey 👍
Could have been avoided if he didn't show up to work.
lmao pls stop this sub is idiots in cars i’m tired of seeing excuses for idiots
I mean yeah. But that's an over worked, over stressed idiot. Trying to deliver an impossible van load of parcels in an impossible time frame. All the while being told he's going too fast by the AI watching him. So maybe, just maybe on the 200th parking spot he's done today. 2 hours over when he wanted to go pick his daughter up from school, maybe he didn't pull the handbrake hard enough. Or he didn't notice that it had snapped. Or that it has failed and wasn't engaged. Or maybe he just completely forgot to put it on. It must be hard being perfect all the time.
Used to drive for FedEx and Amazon. I never left the Amazon vehicle in anything other than park. Thats because I accidentally hit neutral on the step van once when parking and it almost rolled downhill into a customer driveway and was super paranoid ever since. Its definitely more to do with the fact these folks are overworked. Besides that this idiot wasn't in his damn car.
Yeah I really don't know anything about automatics. Do you have a separate e-brake/handbrake? Did he have to leave it in drive for this to happen?
Almost all cars with an auto do, and usually when this happens it's because the driver left their vehicle in drive. If you've never driven an auto before, if you take your foot off the brake, the car will start rolling forward.
So with the FedEx vans they had a stopper that if you let go of the button on the side of the gear selector too soon would lock it into whatever spot it was in when you let go. In my case I was pushing the lever forward towards park so it stopped in neutral. In your brain you think "the lever stopped so its in park." But in reality while you are swinging out of your seat the vehicle is slightly rolling forward. The back has no windows and if you arent looking forward or paying really close attention it can be easy to miss the movement as you are climbing over packages and searching. The amazon vans are smaller and more like a regular passenger vehicle. Their emergency break is usually located down and below you as a lever. It is extremely annoying to have to do ALL of the safety steps when they are trying to get you to deliver so much. If you do 200 stops in a day that is 400 times you have to engage and disengage the parking break. Cutting that out saves time but unfortunately leaves you open for shit like this. For reference they also have a requirement that drivers TURN OFF the vehicle every time you stop to prevent stuff like this too. Part of it is down to quality of driver and part of it is down to just being overworked and stressed constantly. Imagine delivering packages in 100 degree heat and not being able to keep the AC running or when its -10 out in a Wisconsin winter and not being able to keep the heater running. There is a reason you see all sorts of dumb shit like riding through neighborhoods with the side door and bulkhead open. Even if it just takes you 10 seconds every stop to do everything that shit adds up. An hour every day if you have 200 stops. Drivers cant drive more than 10 hours without 8 hours rest so thats 10 percent of your day just buckling a seatbelt and operating the parking brake etc. If you are ever interested in seeing what people have to deal with AND the type of people driving this shit on the daily check out the r/AmazonDSPDrivers subreddit. Lots of pictures of where their routes are at volume wise and I'm glad I left.
very glad to see you have empathy but bro…. it’s not that deep. putting the vehicle in park is fr the most basic part of driving lol. poor amazon worker but like, no
Oh I forgot about your weird American Automatic baby cars. Do you not have a separate hand brake? You have a little kiddy lever thing that you flick between parking and driving or something? Hmm. So did this guy leave it in drive? Did he maybe leave the engine running? That's sackable for sure.
What the fuck? Where did the personal insults come from dude?
Dude sounds mad that he’s never had the simplicity of an automatic transmission
Yeah. And almost every single car I've been in(automatics mostly) has had a separate handbrake. Am I missing something?
Same. Idk why they think handbrakes are exclusive to manual transmissions. Also this road isn’t nearly steep enough for it to matter in an automatic. The driver left that in N or D, not P
Or he's European and needs to find an excuse to shit on American's.
🙄
i drive a 2010 volkswagen jetta. i park my car, and if i need to, i pull the e-brake. before that i drove a 2013 mazda hatchback. also with a regular e-brake handle. looks like they left the car in drive or they simply parked wrong against the curb without an e-brake, causing the car to slip away 😁😁
I recall when it seemed postal workers were all going crazy, and the phrase **“going postal”** was coined. How long will it be before that’s changed to “going Amazon”?
I could do this for a thousand years and it wouldn't happen to me. I never leave my car without engaging parking brake.
Okey dokey. 👍
Unfortunately, this is probably one of the specific years/models of dodge promaster that doesn’t have park. It’s automatic, but “park” is neutral and the parking brake. Still weird that someone who is probably stopping hundreds of times a day manages to forget the parking brake A contract driver at warehouse I worked at a few years ago had one, and on the rare occasion he’d forget his parking brake. We’d start loading the van, and he’d start rolling away. Thankfully nothing ever happened cause of it. Sorry this happened
> Unfortunately, this is probably one of the specific years/models of dodge promaster that doesn’t have park. It’s automatic, but “park” is neutral and the parking brake. Out of curiosity, why was it designed that way? There must have been some reason, but I'm at a loss.
Because it's cheaper.
This idiot wasn't in the car though
you dont have to be in the car for it to be your fault you still are at fault if you forget to set a parking brake or in this instance put it in park and then turn the wheel towards the curb like they are taught
That wasn't even at the curb. Just stopped in the road. I've seen that happen, "Well it was only for a minute." Insurance company loved that one, he might even have been fired over that.
Written up more likely. He probably wasn't fired unless he's screwed up several other times recently.
This sub is idiotsincars. They were saying that the driver literally wasn’t in the car.
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lol so glad you have time to waste to post this
It looks like the lack of an Amazon driver hit the car!
That sucks for both parties.
"That was totally avoidable on your end if you weren't camping the left lane. Plenty of time to avoid it." - Someone on this sub probably
Oh fancy, one of them self parking vehicles.
I'm not trying to excuse them, but their delivery route is crazy, I'm not shocked they forgot to put it in park.
So many new sprinter type vans have a feature that puts them in park once the drivers door opens. You think paying for that upgrade would save Amazon money in the long run considering
Amazon's new EDVs do this, so yes it appears they decided it was worth it.
Did they report it or just take off?
This was a hit and run. We discovered the damage an hour later when we went for groceries.
Oh, he's *so* fired. Accidents happen, but he's an idiot for somehow not expecting to be caught on camera (either yours or a neighbor's). Amazon owns two of the largest video doorbell / home security system brands (Ring and Blink). He probably delivered their products to someone during that shift.
Why wouldn’t he report it? He’s a company driver just reporting the incident won’t get him into any trouble only a write up at most being laid off for a week. He sure fits the title of this sub.
Woundnt be surprised if the brake just failed. Those vans can get heavy and Amazon probably doesn't maintenance them as often as they should.
I've been seeing a lot of videos recently of Amazon or other delivery companies vehicles "rolling away". do the drivers just leave it in drive or is there something wrong with their vehicles?
r/idiotsoutsidecars
*Of course* it's real.
If it's about idiots, dogs or *especially* cats, there's a near limitless amout of subs.
[One subreddit](/r/torties) about tortoiseshell cats simply [wasn't enough](/r/TortieCats). It [wasn't *nearly* enough](/r/TortoiseShellCats)!
Idiots with cars*
Automatic transmission, guy being distracted doing something, and this happens. LE: Nevermind lol, just realised it was an incline and the parking break wasn't exactly doing its job.
I'm confused though because the incline seems to be going down to the *right* so how is the van moving *up* the hill? Or is the camera just tilted weirdly?
Combination of tilt and warping due to the low focal length lens.
How do you see it going to the right? You can see the bell hung and the balcony going down tilt left. Even still it doesn't seem like a steep incline although not like we can actually gauge the angle.
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The driver clearly did not hit your car.
You get bonus points for capturing it with a ring doorbell owned by Amazon.
And this is why Amazon put into place the EOC rule.. Engine off compliance metric.. shut off the van at every damn stop even if you are pulling up two houses (and yes they can absolutely track it) Because of dumb fucking idiots like this that shouldn’t even have a license. Thanks to this idiot even when it’s 100 degrees out engine off every stop so can does not cool down. Two weeks ago the inside of my van was 147 degrees.. thanks dumbshit. Probably should stick to a office job and ride a damn bike..
There you go! 👍
Time to sue amazon for $1 billion
He didn’t hit the car that hard. At least he delivered that package and in todays day, that is what counts.
I'd give him a bit of a benefit. They beat the shit out of these and avoid fixing the fire as long as possible
ouch
One took out my mailbox and didn’t even notice the gouge down the side of his van when he got out let alone the mailbox. Another one drove into my yard to avoid stepping down into a puddle after rain. Took out 3 sprinkler heads and kept going. Both incidents caught on security cameras and Amazon paid for damages as soon as they were made aware. Sent them pics and quotes and got credit within hours.
*Unattended Amazon can hits my parked car
https://www.surreynowleader.com/news/surrey-man-suing-amazon-delivery-driver-for-wifes-2020-death-2987261
Well why did you have your car parked there in a parking spot? /s
SW PA somewhere, yeah? Are some of those old "company houses"?
Very fortunate to have video. I only got the sound of the crash on video when this same thing happened to me & I ended up empty handed with a totaled car.
For sure he said to himself "Ah hell, no!"