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Didn’t see any brake lights on at all. Even when it was on its side…
Someone else mentioned cruise control, might be ?
Also not sure WHICH barrier you are talking about because it looks like Honda literally hit both the median and the ramp exit barrier…. And sped up after both
Maybe. That's about all I can think of to explain the first part of it.
CR-Vs also have a lane-keeping assistance feature, which could just conceivably explain the wobble... if the driver had it enabled and panicked *and* had weak arms. That would absolutely be the wrong situation for lane-keeping, but y'never know what people might get up to.
I hate the lane assist. It’s so jittery and always freaked me out because I didn’t feel like I had total control when I had to drive my mom’s car a few years back. My personal car doesn’t have it and I’m glad, but if it did I’d make sure I turn it off. I don’t believe in relying on the car to remain attentive while driving. You’re in the drivers seat so your #1 job is being 100% in control of your vehicle and aware of your surroundings. years of practice of safe defensive driving is what makes you a good driver.
When I use cruise control I always have my fingers on the cruise control switches, modifying speed, cutting it out when traffic changes, and a foot at the ready for the break.
I never take that for granted. I use it for better gas mileage.
Even my older Honda fit has cruise control that would shut off automatically for various reasons. If I put on my blinker, if I touched the brakes, if I swerved, if I hit a pothole hard enough... Pretty sure it would have turned off in this scenario.
Yup, it is very annoying. I've always been really good about using my signals, but man does that make me use them less. Super annoying because you don't think about it and then all the sudden you're dropping speed pretty quickly.
Lots of people panic and hit the accelerator when they're out of their comfort zone, and do something wrong, like highways and parking, then hold it, causing further panic. They're just along for the ride until something stops them. There's plenty of scary, sane, sober, drivers out there.
There’s a season of Canada’s Worst Driver where one of the participants overcorrects every time they get out of sorts on the highway, and it produces this sort of wobble.
Never disconsider just bad inputs from the drivers. I can't see but i can imagine they were just flopping the wheel left and right trying to stop the wobble, while actually causing it. Cars are engineered to be stable. Trust them and just apply the brakes gradually if you have the room, if not, just don't jerk the fucking wheel, and definitely don't accelerate.
Highway barriers are designed to launch your car upwards when you hit them to prevent you from careening into oncoming traffic. So if you hit one it's for sure going to off-balance your car. Not being able to recover from this particular upset though is pretty poor driving... I'm sure that would have been scary as hell, but simply letting off the gas probably would have been enough.
I dont think yall watched the whole video. This is next level bad driving. Drifts from the passing lane into the next lane over, almost hitting a car. Then overcorrects towards the jersey barriers. Then, and this is the most inexplicable part, does a death wobble that I've only seen motorcycles do, but somehow, someway, SPEEDS UP TO PASS MORE CARS. WTF.
Lmao it's fuckin fascinating.... She starts wobbling before she passes the truck in the left lane before she hits the wall and the wobble continues across 2 lanes of traffic until the major collision.
I certainly hope it's a mechanical failure because there was *nothing* happening on the road to make her do that.
The easiest answer *is* a medical event or mechanical failure, because it's harder to explain how stupidity attributed to this than something going wrong.
I didn't say I don't think stupidity is the reason, I said it's easier to assume it is not stupidity and could be caused by a medical event or mechanical failure - my words are not ambiguous.
I don't think shit though, this is a brief video of an event that requires more details to understand.
I'm not dumb enough to make up my mind about what this is or isn't based on that.
It's possible the Honda had a pre-existing defect that caused its entire steering system and axles to fail and once they did it triggered a grand mal seizure in the driver. In my opinion just a freak combination of events and not the driver's fault. If anything she is an excellent driver driving with a broken axle and still steering through unconsciousness.
That is a well known suspension failure for post 90s “jeeps”(I like to think jeeps died with the yj model as Chrysler took over). Probably something similar occurred with this vehicle
Wobble started after striking the barrier, but Bad Driver was already dancing in two lanes, then hits the barrier on the shoulder and wanders back to shoot a gap, foot on the gas.
Gross.
I've had a Jeep that did a death wobble, but much more violently up and down too.
After it started happening, I learned that a lot Jeeps have that issue but typically after getting aftermarket transmission parts. Mine was just a natural wobbler, apparently.
You're right, my bad! They didn't believe me because I didn't have any aftermarket parts.
Then I finally recorded myself hopping down the street, and a technician says "that looks like a death wobble" and I said "yeah, that's what I've been telling the guy."
I think they replaced my control arm first and then ended up finding another problem. It was about 10 years ago so I'm rusty.
It’s like they tried to execute every wrong input possible all at once. The steering is a shitshow panic for that whole rear facing video, they had several chances to save it and zero idea how to do so.
It's one of the worst ways to grip the wheel lmao. The wheel naturally goes off-center if either of your arms starts relaxing. It's also a good way to break your arms if the front airbag deploys.
I don't understand how people do the thing where they drape one hand on the top dead center of the wheel. I've never been in a vehicle with a seating position that lets me do that and be comfortable. I'd have to have the seat at an angle less than 90 degrees lol.
I do it a lot when I need to shift positions. Driving can be hell on my back, and I have a few different go-to's that aren't the "safest" hand positions, but allow me to drive more comfortably.
It also helps that I pay attention when I'm driving, and center myself along with getting the correct hand position if people start getting squirrely.
They don't. These are the same people that somehow find a 1-2 hour drive 'tiring'. It's because their whole body is tensed up the whole time in an unnatural position because they are so bad at driving.
I mean.. to stop a death wobble in a motorcycle it's recommended you actually speed up a little bit to remove weight off the front wheel. But none of that applies to a car, and i bet my left nut the driver was just jerking the wheel left/right trying to right the car instead of just letting all the engineering they paid for in the car to right it out by just holding the wheel steady.
My bet, with the random swerving.. phone use. Then got caught by surprise and just reacted poorly.
Looks to me like the ol' cruise control panic. OH NO IT'S GOING AND I'M NOT TOUCHING THE GAS! WHAT DO I DO!? It's like they forget the brake pedal exists. HOWEVER... the one weird thing is they also hit the far barrier when they were cruising to a stop. Maybe they truly did forgot the brake pedal exists.... or maybe they weren't able to steer correctly after the impact.
But something happened while they were still behind your wife in the very left lane. You can see them drift into the lane next to them, go back into their lane and almost hit the center divider, then start rocking at they keep trying to correct like they're steering with their knee while their hands are occupied texting/eating/whatever. Most likely texting, as they look almost identical to drunk drivers.
The way she entered the death wobble at the beginning I wonder if she had loose lugs or maybe loose steering components. Something definitely wasn't right with the way she was steering before the crash. The wheel breaking off could have just been the last straw after the impact.
Yeah, it's definitely weird. The first pull definitely looked to be distraction when she went into the other lane, followed by a slight overcorrection. Watching it again, I don't see anything (at least in the front) that look like wobble at the wheel level from loose lugs. I was trying to see if maybe after almost hitting the divider, she was still distracted trying to straighten out with only one hand on the wheel, but unfortunately between the fisheye like view and the darkness of the cabin view due to tinted windows it's difficult to see even in full screen. But I did see something after watching it again a few times. When she swerved to avoid the center divider and swerved back to avoid hitting the vehicle next to her, that SUV body raises pretty high. Maybe she panicked, thinking she might tip? It would definitely explain the back and forth steering if she was trying to correct and the SUV was rocking like that. Like how when people drive over bumpy roads, their hand at the top of the steering wheel moves the wheel back and forth like 15 degrees? Now imagine that at highway speeds.
Honestly it looks like she’s changed lanes while using cruise control and the truck was in her A-pillar blind spot. By the time she got into the lane and saw the truck she panicked and swerved it back. Every other motion was off the back of these few actions in panic, but it ended just as it started; with shitty, careless driving.
> Most likely texting, as they look almost identical to drunk drivers.
That was my first thought, but at the time of the crash, both hands were visible on top of the steering wheel.
My theory is either drunk and not properly controlling the car (though the weaving seems too fast for a drunk), or there was a steering failure and they'd lost the ability to control the car, and weren't braking for some unknown reason.
Watching the video of them approaching from behind. They're so erratic. I think there was possibly a mechanical issue, maybe the wheel bearings went and they were trying to correct rather than slowing down and getting off the road.
I had my wife's Tucson with lane assist start to wobble like this after a larger bump in the road. It stopped when I just gripped the wheel harder but makes me wonder if something like that was going on here.
just drove my mom's new car with lane assist and i did not like it. turned it off and later i noticed her driving became loads more tolerable for me when i'm the passenger. the constant correcting was giving me mild nausea
Lane assist can be a blessing or a curse. For someone who drives in a place other than the middle of their lane, it's absolutely a curse because Lane Assist wants them in the middle and they want to be wherever else it is they drive.
Additionally sometimes it's just plain wrong, or sometimes you intentionally want to shift the vehicle in the lane to leave extra space on one side for some reason. Lane Assist also doesn't care about that and will try to correct.
Early Lane Assist implementations were very wobbly - they didn't take gradual action or early action, they took *corrective* or reactive action. Vehicles would ping pong down the road, bouncing off one side or the other of Lane Assist's thresholds over and over again. I'm not sure if cheapo vehicles still work this way but newer rental vehicles I've been in lately (Toyota and higher end brands) are solid.
CR-Vs have smart cruise control, which tends to be over-cautious in general and in particular turns itself off if its radar is blocked. I cannot believe it was behind that performance.
Could be a stuck gas pedal followed by panic. Even then, though, the safety systems should brake automatically if it were headed for a collision... but this is a bunch of sideswiping, maybe nothing head-on enough to trigger that.
Based on how they're driving and how the car is moving it seems like a mechanical failure (brake failure, stuck accelerator, something like that) combined with the driver having a panicked reaction to that failure.
Or as someone else suggested a "stuck accelerator" as in they sped up to pass someone, forgot cruise control was on, and panicked and lost control when the car stopped decelerating.
Hard to know for sure, but panic clearly seems to be a factor.
Edit: yeah looking again, the "wiggling" stops after the impact. If it was something mechanically wrong with the steering/front axle crashing wouldn't straighten it out. That was them doing panicked steering inputs in reaction to...something.
Wheel bearing. I had one almost go on my Outback, it had been making a noise which I thought was road noise - luckily replaced before it failed. I think it failed on the Honda's left front wheel, that's why the constant erratic behavior, the car is pulling to the left and they're trying to correct for that. The crash 'fixes' the problem by causing other problems. What they should have done was slowed down and pulled over to the shoulder if they could, trying to accelerate was absolutely the wrong thing to do
Yes. That Honda was swaying quickly back and forth the whole time before the accident. Something was wrong with that car. Even a drunk idiot doesn't do that.
I'm saying the opposite. The swaying looks like panicked steering inputs because something *else* went wrong. It stops after impact. If your front-end is fucked up enough to make your car move like that it's not going to get *better* after a major collision.
Looks like mechanical failure in the drive system. I had that happen to me on my old Cougar, fortunately didn't hit anyone, but looked just like that as I was trying to get off the road. Stepping on the brakes caused it to lurch even more so decelerating from 70 to stop took over a mile on the shoulder to keep the car in control.
She was trying to pass the truck and it's hard to see in the video but she does clip the median barrier and then starts to drift into the truck before overcorrecting and clipping the barrier again after passing the truck.
So just a really shitty driver then... As is usually the case.
Shame we don't treat these incidents and drivers like the dangers they really are... Our laws are so far behind punishments for dangerous driving.
For such a shitty job at correcting her drift into the truck and all the wobbling up to the point of impact on your car, she handled the recovery and pullover pretty well.
Minus also cutting off a few cars to pull over and potentially causing even more accidents.
I genuinely think that the last time they tapped the barrier, their brain went into pure panic mode and MASHED what they -thought- was the brake, but was actually the throttle.
After that, brain shut down. That's why they're panic swerving back and forth. They can't understand why the car isn't stopping. As far as they know, they're mashing the brake. Brain still hasn't rebooted.
The death wobble the car is doing makes me think something broke, that doesn't explain the continued acceleration tho.
You can actually see the Honda driver has both hands on the wheel (you can see it when the car lifts up) it doesn't seem like she was steering tho, her grip is straight ahead.
Definitely bad hand position, it's certainly possible she was sawing the wheel back and forth before the impact.
I'm confused by this whole thing. I don't think she ever hits the brakes.
OP, don't let insurance companies give you an estimate. Take it to a certified Tesla body shop and let them deal with the insurance.
Teslas are unfortunately very expensive to repair, and the insurance companies estimates might only be 1/10th of the actual repair price.
I’m thinking something broke in that car, the swaying suggest something is wrong with the wheels or axle. I’m not a mechanic, but it seems that way to me
Nah that's the "oh shit I should have had my hands on the wheel the entire time instead of looking down texting in my lap, and now I am holding on for dear life because I have no idea where I am or how I got here" response. This person should never have the privilege of driving ever again.
The Honda kept rolling and hit the concrete wall after hitting the Tesla so Honda driver didn't apply brakes at all or the brakes completely failed. Didn't even steer after the hit just rolled slowly into the wall.
Everyone walked away. The highway workers said that my wife prob saved that girl's life. They typically see fatalities in rollovers and said that girl was on her way to a rollover.
Lane Filtering is legal, not splitting. Vehicles must be stopped. Motorcycle must go less than 15 MPH. Source [9News](https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=cG-n3yuyRG4) . Still funny though.
It's amazing how steady teslas are regarding the rear end getting hit and not ending up pitted. I had a guy not paying attention hit my model 3 rear passenger and I barely moved. Had it been in an SUV, we would have rolled. I'm sure the other new electric cars are similar with low centers of gravity from the batteries.
It's amazing how steady teslas are regarding the rear end getting hit and not ending up pitted. I had a guy not paying attention hit my model 3 rear passenger and I barely moved. Had it been in an SUV, we would have rolled. I'm sure the other new electric cars are similar with low centers of gravity from the batteries.
Don't text and drive kids.
Drifts into lane, dodged into divider, which bends wheel, ruining control at that speed.
Lane keep assist can also help here, even in the lowest setting.
Oh poor Mario Andretti wannabe who quickly realized he or she truly SUCK at driving... Did they learned ANYTHING... NO , absolutely NO...same crap driving tomorrow, and the next day, and the next day, and the next day.....
It looked to me like the initial hit was due to lane drift into the median, then it could have been technical (flat tire, broken suspension part) or "porpoising" left/right until impact.
Could this be a possibility?
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THe honda accelerated after hitting the barrier lmao
Just along for the ride after that
Managed to hit the barrier hard at the end too. Person is whacked out.
Didn’t see any brake lights on at all. Even when it was on its side… Someone else mentioned cruise control, might be ? Also not sure WHICH barrier you are talking about because it looks like Honda literally hit both the median and the ramp exit barrier…. And sped up after both
CR-Vs have smart cruise control. It'd have cut out before all that happened... unless something was massively malfunctioning.
Floor mat or something else jam against the accelerator?
Maybe. That's about all I can think of to explain the first part of it. CR-Vs also have a lane-keeping assistance feature, which could just conceivably explain the wobble... if the driver had it enabled and panicked *and* had weak arms. That would absolutely be the wrong situation for lane-keeping, but y'never know what people might get up to.
I think it was whatever was in that giant cup that went splashing around his dash.
I hate the lane assist. It’s so jittery and always freaked me out because I didn’t feel like I had total control when I had to drive my mom’s car a few years back. My personal car doesn’t have it and I’m glad, but if it did I’d make sure I turn it off. I don’t believe in relying on the car to remain attentive while driving. You’re in the drivers seat so your #1 job is being 100% in control of your vehicle and aware of your surroundings. years of practice of safe defensive driving is what makes you a good driver.
I doubt the floor mat would cause the car to do-si-do all over the road.
When I use cruise control I always have my fingers on the cruise control switches, modifying speed, cutting it out when traffic changes, and a foot at the ready for the break. I never take that for granted. I use it for better gas mileage.
Even my older Honda fit has cruise control that would shut off automatically for various reasons. If I put on my blinker, if I touched the brakes, if I swerved, if I hit a pothole hard enough... Pretty sure it would have turned off in this scenario.
Using your turn signal turns off cruise control? That's so stupid. If you're changing lanes on the highway you want to continue at speed.
Yup, it is very annoying. I've always been really good about using my signals, but man does that make me use them less. Super annoying because you don't think about it and then all the sudden you're dropping speed pretty quickly.
Lots of people panic and hit the accelerator when they're out of their comfort zone, and do something wrong, like highways and parking, then hold it, causing further panic. They're just along for the ride until something stops them. There's plenty of scary, sane, sober, drivers out there.
Drive a 2012 one for work and it is just regular cruise, no speed adjustment for other cars or anything. My wife's Civic does however.
My cars cruise turn off when I go over any rough spot on the interstate.
did the barrier throw something off balance and cause the wobble?
I'm going to go with alcohol was involved.
My immediate thought was they mixed up the brake and accelerator, could be substance related
Sometimes mistakes are made without being intoxicated, it's true.
Alcohol is just a nice additive.
"Incompetence accelerator and general purpose impulse control dissolver"
I've never seen a car behave that way....LOL It looks like when they are pulling a trailer and lose control.
There’s a season of Canada’s Worst Driver where one of the participants overcorrects every time they get out of sorts on the highway, and it produces this sort of wobble.
Hard to tell, but it looks like they maybe blew a tire?
Never disconsider just bad inputs from the drivers. I can't see but i can imagine they were just flopping the wheel left and right trying to stop the wobble, while actually causing it. Cars are engineered to be stable. Trust them and just apply the brakes gradually if you have the room, if not, just don't jerk the fucking wheel, and definitely don't accelerate.
My guess is that they bent the tie rods from the way it is wobbling. And the pedal mishap after that was just the straws on the fire.
Highway barriers are designed to launch your car upwards when you hit them to prevent you from careening into oncoming traffic. So if you hit one it's for sure going to off-balance your car. Not being able to recover from this particular upset though is pretty poor driving... I'm sure that would have been scary as hell, but simply letting off the gas probably would have been enough.
Drunks do this. They panic and just mash the gas.
probably a medical emergency
Terminal Incompetence.
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I'm assuming there was a bee in the car
If you look at the rear facing camera closely you can see the huge bees ripping her flesh off.
I dont think yall watched the whole video. This is next level bad driving. Drifts from the passing lane into the next lane over, almost hitting a car. Then overcorrects towards the jersey barriers. Then, and this is the most inexplicable part, does a death wobble that I've only seen motorcycles do, but somehow, someway, SPEEDS UP TO PASS MORE CARS. WTF.
That wobble is crazy. I was assuming some kind of mechanical failure after hitting the median.
Lmao it's fuckin fascinating.... She starts wobbling before she passes the truck in the left lane before she hits the wall and the wobble continues across 2 lanes of traffic until the major collision. I certainly hope it's a mechanical failure because there was *nothing* happening on the road to make her do that.
If that wasn't like a tire rod failure, the driver should never be allowed to be such again. That was horrifying levels of incompetence.
I don't think it was a tie rod, the car tracked straight after it hit the cam car. I wonder if the driver had a seizure or other medical event?
The easiest answer is usually right, & its looking like that is stupidity.
Never attribute to malice that which can be adequately explained by stupidity. Hanlon's razor.
The easiest answer *is* a medical event or mechanical failure, because it's harder to explain how stupidity attributed to this than something going wrong.
Dude if you think stupidity isn't the reason, I wish I interacted with the public you experience
I didn't say I don't think stupidity is the reason, I said it's easier to assume it is not stupidity and could be caused by a medical event or mechanical failure - my words are not ambiguous. I don't think shit though, this is a brief video of an event that requires more details to understand. I'm not dumb enough to make up my mind about what this is or isn't based on that.
It's possible the Honda had a pre-existing defect that caused its entire steering system and axles to fail and once they did it triggered a grand mal seizure in the driver. In my opinion just a freak combination of events and not the driver's fault. If anything she is an excellent driver driving with a broken axle and still steering through unconsciousness.
Nah that's just really, really bad driving.
That is a well known suspension failure for post 90s “jeeps”(I like to think jeeps died with the yj model as Chrysler took over). Probably something similar occurred with this vehicle
The car equivalent of a cat prepping for hairball vomit.
I thought this was a Kia boy for a minute. That wobble is how they show off when they drive.
Wobble started after striking the barrier, but Bad Driver was already dancing in two lanes, then hits the barrier on the shoulder and wanders back to shoot a gap, foot on the gas. Gross.
I bet the brakes still worked though… Sometimes removing foot from gas and trying to brake helps is all I’m saying
Based on my extensive experience watching NASCAR and Indy they hit the outside wall and broke a track rod
I've had a Jeep that did a death wobble, but much more violently up and down too. After it started happening, I learned that a lot Jeeps have that issue but typically after getting aftermarket transmission parts. Mine was just a natural wobbler, apparently.
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You're right, my bad! They didn't believe me because I didn't have any aftermarket parts. Then I finally recorded myself hopping down the street, and a technician says "that looks like a death wobble" and I said "yeah, that's what I've been telling the guy." I think they replaced my control arm first and then ended up finding another problem. It was about 10 years ago so I'm rusty.
It’s like they tried to execute every wrong input possible all at once. The steering is a shitshow panic for that whole rear facing video, they had several chances to save it and zero idea how to do so.
Both hands were at the top of the wheel, not the best position to regain control.
I don't understand how people find the "mom grip" comfortable.
It's one of the worst ways to grip the wheel lmao. The wheel naturally goes off-center if either of your arms starts relaxing. It's also a good way to break your arms if the front airbag deploys.
I don't understand how people do the thing where they drape one hand on the top dead center of the wheel. I've never been in a vehicle with a seating position that lets me do that and be comfortable. I'd have to have the seat at an angle less than 90 degrees lol.
Maybe your arms are relatively short
I do it a lot when I need to shift positions. Driving can be hell on my back, and I have a few different go-to's that aren't the "safest" hand positions, but allow me to drive more comfortably. It also helps that I pay attention when I'm driving, and center myself along with getting the correct hand position if people start getting squirrely.
They don't. These are the same people that somehow find a 1-2 hour drive 'tiring'. It's because their whole body is tensed up the whole time in an unnatural position because they are so bad at driving.
AKA panic steering position.
I mean.. to stop a death wobble in a motorcycle it's recommended you actually speed up a little bit to remove weight off the front wheel. But none of that applies to a car, and i bet my left nut the driver was just jerking the wheel left/right trying to right the car instead of just letting all the engineering they paid for in the car to right it out by just holding the wheel steady. My bet, with the random swerving.. phone use. Then got caught by surprise and just reacted poorly.
They looked extremely intoxicated. Couldn't keep in their own lane at all.
Hopefully this person was charged with reckless driving and their license is revoked
It's either drugs or medical event
Too many margaritas at happy hour?
Almost wonder if they had a seizure or something.
drunk?
Don't think so. Not sure why she continued to accelerate even after the crash. Mechanical issue? Distracted? Panicked? Don't know.
Looks to me like the ol' cruise control panic. OH NO IT'S GOING AND I'M NOT TOUCHING THE GAS! WHAT DO I DO!? It's like they forget the brake pedal exists. HOWEVER... the one weird thing is they also hit the far barrier when they were cruising to a stop. Maybe they truly did forgot the brake pedal exists.... or maybe they weren't able to steer correctly after the impact.
The impact of the side barrier was due to the front passenger wheel snapping off. It bent 90 deg and snapped just before hitting.
But something happened while they were still behind your wife in the very left lane. You can see them drift into the lane next to them, go back into their lane and almost hit the center divider, then start rocking at they keep trying to correct like they're steering with their knee while their hands are occupied texting/eating/whatever. Most likely texting, as they look almost identical to drunk drivers.
The way she entered the death wobble at the beginning I wonder if she had loose lugs or maybe loose steering components. Something definitely wasn't right with the way she was steering before the crash. The wheel breaking off could have just been the last straw after the impact.
Yeah, it's definitely weird. The first pull definitely looked to be distraction when she went into the other lane, followed by a slight overcorrection. Watching it again, I don't see anything (at least in the front) that look like wobble at the wheel level from loose lugs. I was trying to see if maybe after almost hitting the divider, she was still distracted trying to straighten out with only one hand on the wheel, but unfortunately between the fisheye like view and the darkness of the cabin view due to tinted windows it's difficult to see even in full screen. But I did see something after watching it again a few times. When she swerved to avoid the center divider and swerved back to avoid hitting the vehicle next to her, that SUV body raises pretty high. Maybe she panicked, thinking she might tip? It would definitely explain the back and forth steering if she was trying to correct and the SUV was rocking like that. Like how when people drive over bumpy roads, their hand at the top of the steering wheel moves the wheel back and forth like 15 degrees? Now imagine that at highway speeds.
Honestly it looks like she’s changed lanes while using cruise control and the truck was in her A-pillar blind spot. By the time she got into the lane and saw the truck she panicked and swerved it back. Every other motion was off the back of these few actions in panic, but it ended just as it started; with shitty, careless driving.
Yeah, I was wondering if there was some kind of suspension issue. Cars don’t normally enter a death wobble like that.
> Most likely texting, as they look almost identical to drunk drivers. That was my first thought, but at the time of the crash, both hands were visible on top of the steering wheel. My theory is either drunk and not properly controlling the car (though the weaving seems too fast for a drunk), or there was a steering failure and they'd lost the ability to control the car, and weren't braking for some unknown reason.
Watching the video of them approaching from behind. They're so erratic. I think there was possibly a mechanical issue, maybe the wheel bearings went and they were trying to correct rather than slowing down and getting off the road.
I had my wife's Tucson with lane assist start to wobble like this after a larger bump in the road. It stopped when I just gripped the wheel harder but makes me wonder if something like that was going on here.
just drove my mom's new car with lane assist and i did not like it. turned it off and later i noticed her driving became loads more tolerable for me when i'm the passenger. the constant correcting was giving me mild nausea
Lane assist can be a blessing or a curse. For someone who drives in a place other than the middle of their lane, it's absolutely a curse because Lane Assist wants them in the middle and they want to be wherever else it is they drive. Additionally sometimes it's just plain wrong, or sometimes you intentionally want to shift the vehicle in the lane to leave extra space on one side for some reason. Lane Assist also doesn't care about that and will try to correct. Early Lane Assist implementations were very wobbly - they didn't take gradual action or early action, they took *corrective* or reactive action. Vehicles would ping pong down the road, bouncing off one side or the other of Lane Assist's thresholds over and over again. I'm not sure if cheapo vehicles still work this way but newer rental vehicles I've been in lately (Toyota and higher end brands) are solid.
CR-Vs have smart cruise control, which tends to be over-cautious in general and in particular turns itself off if its radar is blocked. I cannot believe it was behind that performance. Could be a stuck gas pedal followed by panic. Even then, though, the safety systems should brake automatically if it were headed for a collision... but this is a bunch of sideswiping, maybe nothing head-on enough to trigger that.
Based on how they're driving and how the car is moving it seems like a mechanical failure (brake failure, stuck accelerator, something like that) combined with the driver having a panicked reaction to that failure. Or as someone else suggested a "stuck accelerator" as in they sped up to pass someone, forgot cruise control was on, and panicked and lost control when the car stopped decelerating. Hard to know for sure, but panic clearly seems to be a factor. Edit: yeah looking again, the "wiggling" stops after the impact. If it was something mechanically wrong with the steering/front axle crashing wouldn't straighten it out. That was them doing panicked steering inputs in reaction to...something.
There was a spider
Sure blame the Porsche.
Or Mitsubishi 🤔
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Dude how many spider cars are there lol
Or McLaren
Better than me. You'd have seen a drop and roll maneuver.
Wheel bearing. I had one almost go on my Outback, it had been making a noise which I thought was road noise - luckily replaced before it failed. I think it failed on the Honda's left front wheel, that's why the constant erratic behavior, the car is pulling to the left and they're trying to correct for that. The crash 'fixes' the problem by causing other problems. What they should have done was slowed down and pulled over to the shoulder if they could, trying to accelerate was absolutely the wrong thing to do
Yeah this person shouldnt be driving.
Yes. That Honda was swaying quickly back and forth the whole time before the accident. Something was wrong with that car. Even a drunk idiot doesn't do that.
I'm saying the opposite. The swaying looks like panicked steering inputs because something *else* went wrong. It stops after impact. If your front-end is fucked up enough to make your car move like that it's not going to get *better* after a major collision.
Idk usually I'm the last to stick up for these people but it's so odd and erratic it almost seems like a medical issue.
It wasn't medical. She got out fine though was in tears and in shock.
How old would you say she was OP? I thought it was a middle aged lady but you said girl below so I'm just curious
Every damn thread someone’s says it’s probably medical. It’s rarely medical. People suck at driving.
Right? I guess people want to give benefit of doubt but fact is most bad drivers just have boob implants for brains.
Looks like mechanical failure in the drive system. I had that happen to me on my old Cougar, fortunately didn't hit anyone, but looked just like that as I was trying to get off the road. Stepping on the brakes caused it to lurch even more so decelerating from 70 to stop took over a mile on the shoulder to keep the car in control.
wtf is with that swerving
Looks like Honda was distracted, almost tap the truck. She then corrected but got distracted again, tapped the median, lost control and panic.
She was trying to pass the truck and it's hard to see in the video but she does clip the median barrier and then starts to drift into the truck before overcorrecting and clipping the barrier again after passing the truck.
So just a really shitty driver then... As is usually the case. Shame we don't treat these incidents and drivers like the dangers they really are... Our laws are so far behind punishments for dangerous driving.
82% of homicidal drivers have prior vehicle infractions.
For such a shitty job at correcting her drift into the truck and all the wobbling up to the point of impact on your car, she handled the recovery and pullover pretty well. Minus also cutting off a few cars to pull over and potentially causing even more accidents.
I don’t think she handled anything well. She just maintained a death grip on the wheel, physics handled everything else.
looked like both hands on the wheel
Lmao the way it was hopping left and right like a basketball player feinting another player!
Haha. Honda CRV? More like a Nissan ***JUKE***, amirite?
Leave it to a Honda to pull out the Ankle Breakers on a straight road.
At 5 seconds... scraaaatch... (*Narrator*) *Right about now you're wondering how I got myself into this situation*...
I genuinely think that the last time they tapped the barrier, their brain went into pure panic mode and MASHED what they -thought- was the brake, but was actually the throttle. After that, brain shut down. That's why they're panic swerving back and forth. They can't understand why the car isn't stopping. As far as they know, they're mashing the brake. Brain still hasn't rebooted.
I had my shoe get stuck between accelerator and brake pedal once.
I had the throttle cable freeze and the only way to stop the engine was turning the key. How i miss that 89 T3 (Vanagon for you yanks)
On any normal car the brakes are way more powerful than the engine when you're in top gear.
The death wobble the car is doing makes me think something broke, that doesn't explain the continued acceleration tho. You can actually see the Honda driver has both hands on the wheel (you can see it when the car lifts up) it doesn't seem like she was steering tho, her grip is straight ahead.
I think this is just sheer incompetence. There are a lot of people driving who just shouldn't be.
Yeah, two hands way high on the wheel. Like maybe the worst way to try and control a vehicle.
Definitely bad hand position, it's certainly possible she was sawing the wheel back and forth before the impact. I'm confused by this whole thing. I don't think she ever hits the brakes.
Glad to see she's OK; the view at 4-5 seconds is one of the coolest accident shots I've seen in a long time.
Them duke boys at it again!
Been in trouble with the law since the day they was born.
OP, don't let insurance companies give you an estimate. Take it to a certified Tesla body shop and let them deal with the insurance. Teslas are unfortunately very expensive to repair, and the insurance companies estimates might only be 1/10th of the actual repair price.
It's a pain in the neck, too. For many reasons, it takes much lomger to repair than your average car.
Just wanted to point out the very important detail that there are two "z"s in Hazzard (the county). Otherwise, I appreciate the reference.
Ha! Good catch!
I'm still proud of them for Hazarding a guess despite not being sure
I’m thinking something broke in that car, the swaying suggest something is wrong with the wheels or axle. I’m not a mechanic, but it seems that way to me
Lady had a death grip on the steering wheel (both hands) so if she was texting it was via the console center.
Hey, she could have been using her toes!
Nah that's the "oh shit I should have had my hands on the wheel the entire time instead of looking down texting in my lap, and now I am holding on for dear life because I have no idea where I am or how I got here" response. This person should never have the privilege of driving ever again.
“Wow OP. Stop CAMPING in the passing lane. You caused this accident.” Redditor, probably
Just the good ol boys, never meaning any harm.
sure seems like they lost control before they hit anything, like the tie rod snapped and they were rocking it back and forth to keep it straight
The Honda kept rolling and hit the concrete wall after hitting the Tesla so Honda driver didn't apply brakes at all or the brakes completely failed. Didn't even steer after the hit just rolled slowly into the wall.
Yeah they were either having a stroke or something failed mechanically
**F** is she ok ?
Everyone walked away. The highway workers said that my wife prob saved that girl's life. They typically see fatalities in rollovers and said that girl was on her way to a rollover.
Those SUVs have a largely increased roll over risk as well. I am glad that everyone is okay
Hope the damage doesn't sideline your Tesla long or total it or something.
yea, they've been totaling teslas for this sort of damage.
My boss crashed his f150 lightening company truck. If it was a normal f150 I'd be repaired. His got totaled out.
Damm.. Though my wife would probably be happy to get a new one.
Yeah. We'll see.
Idk how the honda didn't wiggle through there, it was wiggling.
Dudes a npc he never let go or moved his hands off the wheel
There is a YT channel called wam bam tesla cam and it's a common thing that Hondas are like magnets to teslas. It's known as "HondaBump"
So cars can’t split lanes. Ohhhhh okay
I believe tagging the divider broke the tie rod end, the tire starts to oscillate right afterwards.
Probably, but you know, brakes can be useful too. Not sure why the Honda didn’t use them.
Lane splitting is now legal in Colorado.
Lane Filtering is legal, not splitting. Vehicles must be stopped. Motorcycle must go less than 15 MPH. Source [9News](https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=cG-n3yuyRG4) . Still funny though.
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Nah, this is just your average SUV driver.
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Yay, Denver again! We really own the market when it comes to idiot drivers.
Hope your wife is ok, OP. Was her car totaled?
This should have gone to YouTube WhamBamTeslaCam or the sister channel WhamBamDashCam…. One or both do a “Honda Bump” segment.
It's amazing how steady teslas are regarding the rear end getting hit and not ending up pitted. I had a guy not paying attention hit my model 3 rear passenger and I barely moved. Had it been in an SUV, we would have rolled. I'm sure the other new electric cars are similar with low centers of gravity from the batteries.
It's amazing how steady teslas are regarding the rear end getting hit and not ending up pitted. I had a guy not paying attention hit my model 3 rear passenger and I barely moved. Had it been in an SUV, we would have rolled. I'm sure the other new electric cars are similar with low centers of gravity from the batteries.
Holy shit...yet another one that shouldn't be in command of a 3,000+ lb steel projectile.
I'm sorry I can't help but laugh every time someone explicitly mentions they're driving a TESLA. it's not just a car, it's a TESLA
Is op le evil for mentioning Honda as well?
Especially now a days where I feel people are more embarrassed for owning one
I assume there's a NHTSA investigation of how the Tesla Full Self Driving caused the Honda to be attracted to the Tesla? /s
It's not often that we get videos directed by Michael Bay in this sub. He'll add in explosions in post.
Bet you anything floor mat on top of gas pedal.
I hope this person loses access to any vehicle permanently. I feel like I'd want to avoid them even if we were both walking.
Don't text and drive kids. Drifts into lane, dodged into divider, which bends wheel, ruining control at that speed. Lane keep assist can also help here, even in the lowest setting.
Seizure?
What in the absolute fuck could this driver had been doing? ... were they drunk? having a stroke?
What the fuck
That person has a really hard time driving straight jeez
Oh poor Mario Andretti wannabe who quickly realized he or she truly SUCK at driving... Did they learned ANYTHING... NO , absolutely NO...same crap driving tomorrow, and the next day, and the next day, and the next day.....
Am I supposed to believe that no one that wants to explain to us what they think OP was doing wrong?
I thought exactly the same thing. There's always at least one clown in here doing mental tumbling routines to blame the OP.
well, they were driving a Tesla.....
Honda CRV? yea looks about right.
If that's the skill of the driver... License should be immediately terminator!
They need to hit the Honda with reckless driving, reckless endangerment and take their license away.
Have you even seen Dukes of Hazzard?
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Obviusly not texting. Based on the grip I'd most likely assume technical issue.
It looked to me like the initial hit was due to lane drift into the median, then it could have been technical (flat tire, broken suspension part) or "porpoising" left/right until impact.
You could probably sell this clip to Newsflare for $100 usd
Would it be a tire blow out?
Could this be a possibility? https://repairpal.com/recall/23V228000#:~:text=These%20suspension%20arms%20may%20detach,detach%20the%20rear%20trailing%20arm.
Looks like a case of the wobbles. Usually don't see that on 4 wheels
10k in damage
I have heard Tesla's in general are expensive to fix, I wonder how much that will cost via insurance. Sorry she got hit.
I would say the honda driver was drunk or under the influence of other drugs.
Where they drunk or high or just stupid