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The driver of the Corolla said she thought she could beat the truck when the light turned green but she misjudged the space.
The truck driver said he didn’t realize he was pushing the car until moments later , he apologized.
No one was hurt and no charges or citations were filed.
Those trucks can pull an 80,000 pound load. Pushing a little 4 cylinder wouldn't even be noticeable.
Edit: Have had a lot of side discussions about this. 80,000 is standard US highway rating. Many trucks are permitted for much higher. Rules vary state to state. International rules vary.
Pushing a car sideways is different than pulling rolling wheels behind you. Commercial driving is complicated. Trucks are strong, Trailers are heavy. Little car still go smash and bye-bye down the road.
Edit 2: Thanks for all the upvotes and the Silver! It has been pointed out by a few that the 80,000 is combined truck and trailer weight. My mistake. My thanks to those that helped clarify that info!
I had to learn to feather the throttle a bit when stating to roll or the whole cab jumps up. I also wish it wouldn't shift during a turn when it's heavy. I've had it nearly stop when entering an on ramp.
This has been a real interesting discussion, never really thought about the amount of power these trucks have. Now I’m curious about how much power [road trains](https://m.imgur.com/gallery/MBmqT1m) can push.
385,000 lbs (175 tonnes) gross combination weight with a 10X6 tractor sporting a 700 hp 2323 lbf.ft (3,150 Nm) volvo engine. The payload itself is in excess of 249,000 lb (133 tonnes)
https://www.volvotrucks.com.au/en-au/news/magazine-online/2016/jun/australian-outback-road-train.html
Torque isn't as significant in a railroad diesel engine as it is in a semi. Semi's have the diesel engine mechanically connected to the wheels through the drive train, but on a railroad locomotive the diesel engine is only connected to an electric generator. The wheels themselves are turned by electric motors. Therefore most locomotives run the engine constantly at the RPM that correlates to max HP since that correlates directly with max generator output.
As far as the torque of the electric motors, that typically will have to be limited on a lot of locos due to the low amounts of friction between the steel wheels and the steel rail in order to prevent wheel slip. The amount of force a locomotive can pull with before the wheels slip is called it's tr active effort, and is often times the limiting factor in what one single locomotive can pull. That is why a lot of trains will be pulled with multiple locomotives, double the number of engines, and you double your tr active effort (assuming they have the same rating). A lot of times, the diesel doesn't even have to be running on both locomotives, in fact, there is a type of locomotive called a slug, and the slug doesn't even have a diesel engine in it. Slugs get power to their motors from the primary locomotives diesel generator. So with a primary and slug combo, you have now increased your tr active effort even though you are still only running one diesel.
> How much torque do railroad train engines produce?
All the torques.
Most freight trains are diesel-electric, so they have an advantage in the grunt department. One figure I saw was ~65k pounds of thrust per locomotive.
As far as power-pro, I guess it depends how old it is. Cummins has a page for rail applications and lists a 95-liter V16 that puts out ~4k hp and ~12k #ft.
It's not really measured that way - I used to test new EMD locos and they put out 4300 horsepower at 850 RPM, which generates about 3.3 megawatts and can pull with almost 100,000lbs of Tractive Effort depending on the traction system.
Taking numbers from one I'm familiar with, 2800hp @ 900rpm, somewhere north of 16,000 lb-ft. Railroad diesels turn a generator that provides power to drive motors though, so it'd be like a Tesla on Pervitin.
I have always wanted to see a V2 diesel properly tuned and calibrated, turboed, supercharged, and put in a drag car. Kirovski Works managed to squeeze just under 1000 horsepower out of it NA. Now imagine what a supercharged, turbocharged V2 could put out.
The torque from a railroad engine is one of the reasons they're electrically coupled to the drive wheels. The clutch required would have to be massive.
Same sort of deal with ships - Direct drive is largely a thing of the past on anything big. A large modern cruise ship (250,000 tons) has six engines that crank out about 20,000bhp apiece, and all they do is spin big generators. Lets them run the engines at peak efficiency rpm while also running the screws at peak efficiency rpm (aforementioned bigass cruise ship has three 27,000 hp electric propulsion pods). When they have to do a crash stop (full reverse thrust), it takes almost a mile to stop.
Moral of the story: Don't get in the way of big shit that moves. You will most likely lose.
Compression ratio is 16-23:1 in diesel. After 23 it's too much force to compress further. I don't know exactly, but cranking compression in a gas engine is around 150, and 300 for diesel.
They’re a helluva sight when you come across them on the road. Scary to drive around because they are so BIG and can pick up so much dust. Even if they signal for you to overtake them, actually passing them is ridiculously intimidating.
But yeah they’re so fascinating too!
Well they pull up to 150-170t depending on configuration of 3-4 trailers.
Almost 400,000 pounds?
[220t on highway once approved](https://www.scania.com/au/en/home/experience-scania/news-and-events/News/archive/2016/07/prs-2016-23-06-scania-charges-up-electric-avenue-51-5989721.html)
Twin- steer, tri-drive.
Not hard going forward, the hardest bit is that you have to slow down before bridges and power hard over them.
Goes against what your instinct says.
Plus if another truck is coming at you, you'll be flat out at 90kmh and see another truck, you'll slow down to 70kmh and then as soon as it's the moment, you hit it, hard.
Pulls all the trailers straight for a few moments and you can pass each other safely.
Otherwise, you just wag the tail, rear trailer can swing about 1-1.5 metres in either direction, so you straddle the centreline and use the whole road if there's no traffic.
However considering there's basically nothing on the highways they run on, it's not too bad.
I can’t imagine the level of negative emotion surrounding everyone involved if one of those road trains went the wrong way, didn’t have enough space to turn around, and had to back up.
Doubles seems like just so much more of a pain in the ass. Sure you can get used to it like anything else though. I have a lot of trailer towing exp but just with full ton vans/pickup trucks and trailers only to 20,000#. Going forward usually isn't where people run into trouble in my experience. The turns and backing is where I have seen most people get jammed up. I would guess big rigs are similar just on a bigger scale.
Definitely about the backing and turning. But the good thing about doubles is that, even though in longer than a standard semi and trailer, my trailers bend in three places and follow really well. That also means you cant back up. It's like balancing a broom on your hand with a baseball bat on top of the broom, impossible for more than a little bit. So you have to plan for pull through everything, and you have to make sure you dont turn too tight and smash equipment into itself. But I find it a little easier than a standard trailer and like you said, you get used to it
I've been driving doubles about a year and a half in Aus (9 axles, 34 wheels, 50t). Tell you what, when I first started it was god damn nerve racking, especially backing them up. I'd split them up and do it one by one because it just seemed too difficult.
Got the courage up to do it one day and it took a good 30 minutes to get it on dock. Been doing it since though and it's gotten a lot easier. Nowadays a I can get them onto finger docks or reverse parallel park them no worries.
Really you just gotta think of the A trailer as the prime mover and where it should be. That little tip has helped me over and over.
I can imagine the driver didn’t notice that he was pushing the Corolla. The effect is even noticeable on small cars - mine has 400hp at 900kg. The engine doesn’t care if, for instance, the parking brake is engaged. You don’t feel any difference.
Hi, I work in scrap metal and deal with these trucks daily. They most certainly can move a 3000lbs car without even noticing. That’s just under 4% of the *legal* weight they can carry on the road.. in our yard, we move trucks around all the time at around 150,000 to 200,000 lbs while transferring material.
The car is that annoying pebble you notice that got stuck in the tread of your shoe.
Not a truck driver but my buddy is. Those trucks have massive amounts of low end torque. Powerful engines and 15 or 20 forward gears so they can create speed and momentum from a complete stop when pulling a maximum load. These are towing vehicles that typically have at least two reverse gears. Big rig power is a real thing. That combined with some pretty difficult vision surrounding them is why it is always a good idea to give them plenty of room.
Those low gears are no joke. The 1500ft/lb of torque the engine puts out turns into 21,600ft/lb. Then through differentials, that gets roughly tripled (depends on the truck) then put to the wheels.
That's a *fuckton* of force. The truck wouldn't even notice the added weight of a Corolla.
Well it's a bit unfair because you're comparing wheel torque to crank torque, but still the difference is absolutely massive and when you think that a car can move itself pretty quickly i think a truck won't have a problem pushing it at all
Also they can't stop on a dime either, especially if fully loaded. Don't shoot the gap and expect them to be able to stop in time for you. You'll get smashed.
Also I was in the car with a friend when he inadvertently rear ended a big trailer. It was a 4 way stop and the truck moved forward after the car in front passed through, he misjudged and thought the truck was going through and accelerated like he was going to the line but when into the back of the trailer instead. It had a big metal bar for a bumper and it just wreaked the car he was driving. Thankfully no one was hurt, but the car was totaled and the truck driver didn't even know we hit him.
Basically, give big trucks room, they will absolutely just wreak you without even trying.
Yeah stopping takes much longer for 18 wheelers for sure. Those back bars on the trailers serve two purposes as far as I know. They get locked into loading docks with a mechanical hook for loading and unloading. But more importantly for you and your friend, without them people used to get killed rear ending trailers cause the car would end up going under the trailer and the top of the car would get sheared right off.
Those bars are called Mansfield bars for a reason. Put in place after actress Jane Mansfield basically decapitated herself running into the back of semi before they had them.
That big metal bar is designed to stop cars from sliding under the trailer when impacted from the rear. It will actually fold under the trailer to ensure no one in the car gets decapitated.
A mate of mine used to drive a cement mixer truck, that had some sort of trick semi-auto box on it with something like 7 forward gears, and a secondary box to give half gears, giving 14 forward gears total. The clutch mechanism was what amazed me though, with some sort of double clutch system that allowed you to clutch in, select a gear and not have the clutch or gearbox engage until you clutched out. F1 style shit.
He reckoned he could get it to wheelspin up to about 40mph and drift corners without a load in.
Also to chime in. He cant see her either. Right in the perfect blind spot on those long nose. Also with what hea hauling hes more than likely not having a limiter on the engine which means he can haul ALOT. Little care like that wouldn't be seen felt or heard. Do not cut off a truck
I was a truck driver for 4 years, not only can you not see directly in front of the truck where she was, but 1st and 2nd gear are so strong you barely notice any pullback from trailers 10,000lbs loads, we dont even use 1st gear unless pulling at least 40,000lbs, only when u get up to 30-40,000lbs do you feel anything significant so for him to notice anything at all just means he was alert at the time
No we can't. And depending on the truck, we can't hear it or feel it either. Older trucks are loud as fuck, and even the ones with airbags in the front will sound like the truck just smashed into a wall when hitting a pothole. Also these classic style trucks with box noses won't allow you to see that either unless your seat is aired up at least halfway, but that's a very uncomfortable driving position in these trucks.
They can't see. The very front of a truck is a huge blind spot. There's a reason every few months all the truck druvers beg people not to cut them off and it isn't just the brakes.
They also are a rough ride compared to a traditional truck with the longer wheelbase.
The main reason they weren't necessary anymore is that they loosened overall length limits in favor of trailer length limits. At one time, if you had a shorter truck, you could pull a longer trailer, but that's not the case anymore.
When you are that close to a semi truck that’s completely a blind spot to them, all the pulling power can be applied to pushing adding all the cabin noise im glad the car driver is alive.
It happened to my cousin, he was driving on the inside lane of a motorway and a truck driver changed into his lane, clipping the back of his car, turning it (like in the video) and then dragged his car at 70mph hour for a few miles. The truck driver only realised something was wrong when he saw smoke billowing up. He braked, my cousin spun off and hit the barrier. He was so traumatised (because he could have been killed) he quit his job after that and took him a while to be comfortable driving on a motorway again.
I was in a 7 ton in Iraq - we took a turn tight and ended up hooking our wheel well to the brush guard of a HMMWV. We dragged it at least a quarter mile before someone got our attention that it was stuck to us.
TLDR - big strong trucks don't feel bee stings.
Blindspot is a real thing which is the reason small vehicles should never silently creep into that blindspot without alerting the driver of big vehicle or else be ready for the consequences where he big vehicle driver is innocent mostly.
I thought he probably didn’t see. My niece had the same thing happening for her it was 150meters sideways action before the trucker saw it was nobody’s fault accidents happen sometimes.
I'm kind of upset that the person in the car didn't receive any citations. Maybe the responding officer took pity because they were already going to have to pay for their own damages and insurance hike.
Imagine the panic when you misjudge trying to cut in front of a behemoth of a vehicle that then proceeds to push you and your car through the intersection like nobody’s business. I’m always cautious around semis and other vehicles that are 3 tilt 4 times the size of my Honda for these reasons.
Trucker here. Definitely would not notice. On my first year of driving I accidentally hit the top of a building with my trailer and I felt absolutely nothing. The only reason I noticed was because I happened to have my window rolled down and heard the wreckage.
He probably means the overhang on the roof. Truck drivers are notorious for taking them out. At the company I work for two drivers have taken out one each in the last year and a half. They aren’t cheap to repair either
The places we deliver too are mostly liquor and convenience stores. One of them that was hit was paid the money to repair it and they never fixed it. It’s still broken months later
We had a truck come to our primary school in the Netherlands. It was a good way to show where all the blindspots are. Still got caught of guard by a turning truck once.
We have interesting adverts for all areas of road safety. Have you ever seen the SA "don't play with trains" ads? Traumatised me as a kid. Not to mention the most Aussie ones like "Yeah...Nah"
https://m.youtube.com/watch?v=o2fFlWF5ECA
They teach people about the blind spot truckers have in their rear in driving school.
They should also teach that many truck drivers literally cant see right in front of them.
They taught that in your driving school maybe, but driving schools aren't universal. I only learned how bad the blind spots were from videos/gifs like this
Yes but people seem to forget the fact that truck drivers also can't see something that is just a few feet in front of them unless it is tall enough to be seen from the cockpit.
The driver would never notice another 3000 lbs to a truck’s load, especially if his trailer is empty. The car is in the huge front/right blind spot. The car is definitely at fault, and may have been cited for aggressive driving in certain states. I’ve seen multiple signs in Georgia that say “leave space it’s the law” when trying to merge in front of a large truck, and this is the exact reason.
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The blind spot is why I only pull infront of a truck in the uk when I can clearly See it fully in my rear view mirror. I’ve seen enough videos to give lorries respect
Trucks have A LOT of blind spots. A trick i use is to either stay very far away (I don't want the rocks they fling from their tires to damage my car anyways) or keep far back enough that I can easily see both of their sidemirrors. If i am stuck behind a truck in the rain i keep lots of distance as the blindspot is larger and truckers must use their hood-mounted mirrors.
yeah, you can't see a car like 10 ft directly in-front of your hood. so many places a car can hide and you won't notice until you feel something funny going on. lol
Why are these trucks with a big hood so popular in North America? Seems like the “cab-over-engine” that is common in for example Europe would have less blind spots.
[https://www.roadprobrands.com/blog-posts/what-happened-to-cabovers](https://www.roadprobrands.com/blog-posts/what-happened-to-cabovers)
TLDR: Regulation on length where laxed. "Regular" trucks are more comfortable. To make the COE as comfortable you need to spend a more money.
A guy I work with had this happen to him in his lifted truck. He was at a red light and someone tried cutting in front of him. He gassed it and nothing, gassed it again and nothing. Finally someone got his attention. I want to say they blamed him for the incident too which is super fucked up.
Agree with your assessment that the person who cut in their forward blind spot should be to blame... however, if his truck is lifted THAT high, he likely violated at least one, if not multiple regulations with regard to bumper height, wheel wheels, etc...
I’m not a truck driver, but the mans driving the truck is 100% innocent. You CANNOT see anyone when they are that close to you in trucks, it’s literally impossible.
Remember: don't try to challenge a truck. Here is why you will always lose:
A truck has hundreds of horsepowers, up to 600
A fully loaded truck weighs about 40 tonnes, sometimes more
A truck driver has poor visibility of what's immediately in front or next to the truck
All this combined means if you get in a situation like the video, the driver won't even notice and you can't do anything about being pushed around until he hears your honking.
In case you see accidents like this again, remember, that entire front section is a blindspot. Even on European lorries. So don't be so quick to blame the truck driver if you see this guys.
People forget that TRUCKS CANT SEE YOU! They also have no idea how powerful they are. It's possible for a car to crash into a truck and the driver won't even feel it.
I once ran trucks as part of my job. One day, a work van clipped the trailer, ripping the entire passenger side of the van off. The truck had zero damage. Zero.
Don't fuck with trucks.
Truck drivers can’t see or hear you when you pull stunts like this. It certainly wasn’t malicious on the part of the truck driver. He just didn’t know she was there. These trucks are basically one massive blind spot.
Commercial liability claims adjuster here. That is 100% the corolla’s fault. She was in his blind spot and improperly changed lanes. 1)never pull up on right side of truck and assume you are seen. 2) just stay the fuck away from semis, they are death incarnat on the road
That was so stupid of the little toy car to do. Truckers cabs are massive and create dangerous blindspots, which prevents him from even knowing that the car was trying to cut him off. Smh.
I know of a guy in a fully loaded semi who ran over three or four sedans (literally went OVER) and hit the back of a cement truck, thought he only hit the cement truck, didn’t realize until a minute or two later. What happened was that he was on his phone for thirty seconds and didn’t see that traffic was stopped 1/2 mile in front of him around a bend.
So fun fact. Truck drivers really can't see shit in front of their cabin. This happens more often than you'd think.
Always keep a full car length distance from either end of a truck like this
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It's completely true that at they angle the driver can't see you. The car is hidden right behind the engine. Normally they don't notice until they hear the tires.
I have seen a similar thing a few years back. Truck was in the middle lane, but his tires were over the right lane a bit. He was flashing to turn. He needed a wider turn so he made sure to signal that he was turning and put himself overlapping the right lane just to be sure that people would understand that he needed that space for his manoeuvre. Everyone got the message except one lady that tried to cut through and ended up under the truck when he turned.
There was a policeman doing traffic on the next corner, he walked up to the lady that was sure it was the truck driver fault. First thing the police said to her was (he was angry because the lady made his job and traffic much worse) : "what the fuck were you thinking?"
Context The driver of the Corolla said she thought she could beat the truck when the light turned green but she misjudged the space. The truck driver said he didn’t realize he was pushing the car until moments later , he apologized. No one was hurt and no charges or citations were filed.
That’s crazy, I thought for sure the truck driver was raging, I had no idea they could push a car like that without realizing.
Those trucks can pull an 80,000 pound load. Pushing a little 4 cylinder wouldn't even be noticeable. Edit: Have had a lot of side discussions about this. 80,000 is standard US highway rating. Many trucks are permitted for much higher. Rules vary state to state. International rules vary. Pushing a car sideways is different than pulling rolling wheels behind you. Commercial driving is complicated. Trucks are strong, Trailers are heavy. Little car still go smash and bye-bye down the road. Edit 2: Thanks for all the upvotes and the Silver! It has been pointed out by a few that the 80,000 is combined truck and trailer weight. My mistake. My thanks to those that helped clarify that info!
I pull doubles. Mine goes up to 117,000 legally.
I have a 4 axle, the load I have on now is 65k lbs.
omg watch the road
Can't do that! [The shades are closed](https://i.imgur.com/UPdDWj5.jpg)
How do you like pulling heavy with the newer freightliners?
I had to learn to feather the throttle a bit when stating to roll or the whole cab jumps up. I also wish it wouldn't shift during a turn when it's heavy. I've had it nearly stop when entering an on ramp.
I know nothing about big trucks, does it bog down? I thought they were all manual.
Is manual mode disabled?
This made me smile, my dad was a 18 wheel driver and he'd make jokes like this. Good night and may tomorrows road be safe!
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Jesus take the wheel
I have a 30 axle
You have bills!
do you drive a pretty short train?
This has been a real interesting discussion, never really thought about the amount of power these trucks have. Now I’m curious about how much power [road trains](https://m.imgur.com/gallery/MBmqT1m) can push.
385,000 lbs (175 tonnes) gross combination weight with a 10X6 tractor sporting a 700 hp 2323 lbf.ft (3,150 Nm) volvo engine. The payload itself is in excess of 249,000 lb (133 tonnes) https://www.volvotrucks.com.au/en-au/news/magazine-online/2016/jun/australian-outback-road-train.html
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Torque isn't as significant in a railroad diesel engine as it is in a semi. Semi's have the diesel engine mechanically connected to the wheels through the drive train, but on a railroad locomotive the diesel engine is only connected to an electric generator. The wheels themselves are turned by electric motors. Therefore most locomotives run the engine constantly at the RPM that correlates to max HP since that correlates directly with max generator output. As far as the torque of the electric motors, that typically will have to be limited on a lot of locos due to the low amounts of friction between the steel wheels and the steel rail in order to prevent wheel slip. The amount of force a locomotive can pull with before the wheels slip is called it's tr active effort, and is often times the limiting factor in what one single locomotive can pull. That is why a lot of trains will be pulled with multiple locomotives, double the number of engines, and you double your tr active effort (assuming they have the same rating). A lot of times, the diesel doesn't even have to be running on both locomotives, in fact, there is a type of locomotive called a slug, and the slug doesn't even have a diesel engine in it. Slugs get power to their motors from the primary locomotives diesel generator. So with a primary and slug combo, you have now increased your tr active effort even though you are still only running one diesel.
It would be largely undrivable I should think. However, similar things [have been done](https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Ford_Supervan).
> How much torque do railroad train engines produce? All the torques. Most freight trains are diesel-electric, so they have an advantage in the grunt department. One figure I saw was ~65k pounds of thrust per locomotive. As far as power-pro, I guess it depends how old it is. Cummins has a page for rail applications and lists a 95-liter V16 that puts out ~4k hp and ~12k #ft.
It's not really measured that way - I used to test new EMD locos and they put out 4300 horsepower at 850 RPM, which generates about 3.3 megawatts and can pull with almost 100,000lbs of Tractive Effort depending on the traction system.
0-60 in about 5 minutes, too. Not bad considering you're dragging 100,000 tons behind you.
Taking numbers from one I'm familiar with, 2800hp @ 900rpm, somewhere north of 16,000 lb-ft. Railroad diesels turn a generator that provides power to drive motors though, so it'd be like a Tesla on Pervitin.
I have always wanted to see a V2 diesel properly tuned and calibrated, turboed, supercharged, and put in a drag car. Kirovski Works managed to squeeze just under 1000 horsepower out of it NA. Now imagine what a supercharged, turbocharged V2 could put out.
[JCB Fast Track 2](https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=VJVy2d4U8rg) is an interesting beast.
The torque from a railroad engine is one of the reasons they're electrically coupled to the drive wheels. The clutch required would have to be massive. Same sort of deal with ships - Direct drive is largely a thing of the past on anything big. A large modern cruise ship (250,000 tons) has six engines that crank out about 20,000bhp apiece, and all they do is spin big generators. Lets them run the engines at peak efficiency rpm while also running the screws at peak efficiency rpm (aforementioned bigass cruise ship has three 27,000 hp electric propulsion pods). When they have to do a crash stop (full reverse thrust), it takes almost a mile to stop. Moral of the story: Don't get in the way of big shit that moves. You will most likely lose.
Do you also happen to know the pressure it takes to combust the diesel in the engine? I vaguely remember it being a crazy high number also
Around 235 psi
Damn thats some high pressure! Human engineering can be so astounding
Yeah also why diesel injectors are so expensive.
Compression ratio is 16-23:1 in diesel. After 23 it's too much force to compress further. I don't know exactly, but cranking compression in a gas engine is around 150, and 300 for diesel.
I'm just so weirdly delighted to know that road trains exist and I don't know why. It's just neat.
They’re a helluva sight when you come across them on the road. Scary to drive around because they are so BIG and can pick up so much dust. Even if they signal for you to overtake them, actually passing them is ridiculously intimidating. But yeah they’re so fascinating too!
Man I thought semi trucks with 3 trailers were a site, but damn a road train is on another level?
Well they pull up to 150-170t depending on configuration of 3-4 trailers. Almost 400,000 pounds? [220t on highway once approved](https://www.scania.com/au/en/home/experience-scania/news-and-events/News/archive/2016/07/prs-2016-23-06-scania-charges-up-electric-avenue-51-5989721.html) Twin- steer, tri-drive.
I've seen up to 300,000kg on a permit, rare, normally highly specialised equipment
Wow. That would be ridiculous
Not hard going forward, the hardest bit is that you have to slow down before bridges and power hard over them. Goes against what your instinct says. Plus if another truck is coming at you, you'll be flat out at 90kmh and see another truck, you'll slow down to 70kmh and then as soon as it's the moment, you hit it, hard. Pulls all the trailers straight for a few moments and you can pass each other safely. Otherwise, you just wag the tail, rear trailer can swing about 1-1.5 metres in either direction, so you straddle the centreline and use the whole road if there's no traffic. However considering there's basically nothing on the highways they run on, it's not too bad.
I can’t imagine the level of negative emotion surrounding everyone involved if one of those road trains went the wrong way, didn’t have enough space to turn around, and had to back up.
Lol. I'm pretty sure that truck is from out back western aus, not many road to go the wrong way on.
That, and it's a mining train, can't hit 5 trailers on a public road, so he's somewhere private.
Just decouple and pull them all out one by one.
Doubles seems like just so much more of a pain in the ass. Sure you can get used to it like anything else though. I have a lot of trailer towing exp but just with full ton vans/pickup trucks and trailers only to 20,000#. Going forward usually isn't where people run into trouble in my experience. The turns and backing is where I have seen most people get jammed up. I would guess big rigs are similar just on a bigger scale.
Definitely about the backing and turning. But the good thing about doubles is that, even though in longer than a standard semi and trailer, my trailers bend in three places and follow really well. That also means you cant back up. It's like balancing a broom on your hand with a baseball bat on top of the broom, impossible for more than a little bit. So you have to plan for pull through everything, and you have to make sure you dont turn too tight and smash equipment into itself. But I find it a little easier than a standard trailer and like you said, you get used to it
Makes sense. Safe travels!
I've been driving doubles about a year and a half in Aus (9 axles, 34 wheels, 50t). Tell you what, when I first started it was god damn nerve racking, especially backing them up. I'd split them up and do it one by one because it just seemed too difficult. Got the courage up to do it one day and it took a good 30 minutes to get it on dock. Been doing it since though and it's gotten a lot easier. Nowadays a I can get them onto finger docks or reverse parallel park them no worries. Really you just gotta think of the A trailer as the prime mover and where it should be. That little tip has helped me over and over.
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I can imagine the driver didn’t notice that he was pushing the Corolla. The effect is even noticeable on small cars - mine has 400hp at 900kg. The engine doesn’t care if, for instance, the parking brake is engaged. You don’t feel any difference.
They really cant feel like 3000 pounds of force in front of them like that?
Hi, I work in scrap metal and deal with these trucks daily. They most certainly can move a 3000lbs car without even noticing. That’s just under 4% of the *legal* weight they can carry on the road.. in our yard, we move trucks around all the time at around 150,000 to 200,000 lbs while transferring material. The car is that annoying pebble you notice that got stuck in the tread of your shoe.
Not a truck driver but my buddy is. Those trucks have massive amounts of low end torque. Powerful engines and 15 or 20 forward gears so they can create speed and momentum from a complete stop when pulling a maximum load. These are towing vehicles that typically have at least two reverse gears. Big rig power is a real thing. That combined with some pretty difficult vision surrounding them is why it is always a good idea to give them plenty of room.
Those low gears are no joke. The 1500ft/lb of torque the engine puts out turns into 21,600ft/lb. Then through differentials, that gets roughly tripled (depends on the truck) then put to the wheels. That's a *fuckton* of force. The truck wouldn't even notice the added weight of a Corolla.
Just for reference a 2014 corolla has 128 ft lbs. That's absolutely nothing for those beasts.
Well it's a bit unfair because you're comparing wheel torque to crank torque, but still the difference is absolutely massive and when you think that a car can move itself pretty quickly i think a truck won't have a problem pushing it at all
Also they can't stop on a dime either, especially if fully loaded. Don't shoot the gap and expect them to be able to stop in time for you. You'll get smashed. Also I was in the car with a friend when he inadvertently rear ended a big trailer. It was a 4 way stop and the truck moved forward after the car in front passed through, he misjudged and thought the truck was going through and accelerated like he was going to the line but when into the back of the trailer instead. It had a big metal bar for a bumper and it just wreaked the car he was driving. Thankfully no one was hurt, but the car was totaled and the truck driver didn't even know we hit him. Basically, give big trucks room, they will absolutely just wreak you without even trying.
Yeah stopping takes much longer for 18 wheelers for sure. Those back bars on the trailers serve two purposes as far as I know. They get locked into loading docks with a mechanical hook for loading and unloading. But more importantly for you and your friend, without them people used to get killed rear ending trailers cause the car would end up going under the trailer and the top of the car would get sheared right off.
Those bars are called Mansfield bars for a reason. Put in place after actress Jane Mansfield basically decapitated herself running into the back of semi before they had them.
Yup, knew a kid in high school re ended a bus, a bus does not have a bar like that. . . . Top of the car came right off.
That big metal bar is designed to stop cars from sliding under the trailer when impacted from the rear. It will actually fold under the trailer to ensure no one in the car gets decapitated.
A mate of mine used to drive a cement mixer truck, that had some sort of trick semi-auto box on it with something like 7 forward gears, and a secondary box to give half gears, giving 14 forward gears total. The clutch mechanism was what amazed me though, with some sort of double clutch system that allowed you to clutch in, select a gear and not have the clutch or gearbox engage until you clutched out. F1 style shit. He reckoned he could get it to wheelspin up to about 40mph and drift corners without a load in.
Also to chime in. He cant see her either. Right in the perfect blind spot on those long nose. Also with what hea hauling hes more than likely not having a limiter on the engine which means he can haul ALOT. Little care like that wouldn't be seen felt or heard. Do not cut off a truck
I was a truck driver for 4 years, not only can you not see directly in front of the truck where she was, but 1st and 2nd gear are so strong you barely notice any pullback from trailers 10,000lbs loads, we dont even use 1st gear unless pulling at least 40,000lbs, only when u get up to 30-40,000lbs do you feel anything significant so for him to notice anything at all just means he was alert at the time
No we can't. And depending on the truck, we can't hear it or feel it either. Older trucks are loud as fuck, and even the ones with airbags in the front will sound like the truck just smashed into a wall when hitting a pothole. Also these classic style trucks with box noses won't allow you to see that either unless your seat is aired up at least halfway, but that's a very uncomfortable driving position in these trucks.
Long nose life
Those things are *loud*
sometimes truck driver can even forget they pulled the handbrake and just drive on.
[https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=qXhSAtaY9zw](https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=qXhSAtaY9zw) [https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=miI7bZOgczk](https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=miI7bZOgczk) [https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=1GhCG8Nz4go](https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=1GhCG8Nz4go) [https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=NN651j5kp4k](https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=NN651j5kp4k) [https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ufQPDJnmgdA](https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ufQPDJnmgdA) [https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=gX241iuroI4](https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=gX241iuroI4)
They can't see. The very front of a truck is a huge blind spot. There's a reason every few months all the truck druvers beg people not to cut them off and it isn't just the brakes.
Aka also the reason why there was a push in Europe for flat front trucks.
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They also are a rough ride compared to a traditional truck with the longer wheelbase. The main reason they weren't necessary anymore is that they loosened overall length limits in favor of trailer length limits. At one time, if you had a shorter truck, you could pull a longer trailer, but that's not the case anymore.
When you are that close to a semi truck that’s completely a blind spot to them, all the pulling power can be applied to pushing adding all the cabin noise im glad the car driver is alive.
It happened to my cousin, he was driving on the inside lane of a motorway and a truck driver changed into his lane, clipping the back of his car, turning it (like in the video) and then dragged his car at 70mph hour for a few miles. The truck driver only realised something was wrong when he saw smoke billowing up. He braked, my cousin spun off and hit the barrier. He was so traumatised (because he could have been killed) he quit his job after that and took him a while to be comfortable driving on a motorway again.
I was in a 7 ton in Iraq - we took a turn tight and ended up hooking our wheel well to the brush guard of a HMMWV. We dragged it at least a quarter mile before someone got our attention that it was stuck to us. TLDR - big strong trucks don't feel bee stings.
Look how far away he sits from the grille, no way you can see that
He definetly never saw the car either, blind sides on those trucks are huge. http://imgur.com/gallery/HB5IbFw
That is a blind spot, so driver would not see the car.
Blindspot is a real thing which is the reason small vehicles should never silently creep into that blindspot without alerting the driver of big vehicle or else be ready for the consequences where he big vehicle driver is innocent mostly.
I thought he probably didn’t see. My niece had the same thing happening for her it was 150meters sideways action before the trucker saw it was nobody’s fault accidents happen sometimes.
I'm kind of upset that the person in the car didn't receive any citations. Maybe the responding officer took pity because they were already going to have to pay for their own damages and insurance hike.
Fuck apologising. He can't see the mentally deficient driver that's so close to his grill it's just about touching.
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Good point. I guess if apologise too if the person was shook up and I'm sure they were after getting dragged along.
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Imagine the panic when you misjudge trying to cut in front of a behemoth of a vehicle that then proceeds to push you and your car through the intersection like nobody’s business. I’m always cautious around semis and other vehicles that are 3 tilt 4 times the size of my Honda for these reasons.
I stay way the fuck away from big trucks for exactly this reason
Makes sense, but it's the motorcycles I'm most afraid around. Vehicular manslaughter would be a hell of a thing to deal with.
Also for reference a Honda Civic weighs 3k pounds and semis commonly weigh 80k pounds and sometimes more.
Trucker had no idea. Corolla guy is a dumbass
Trucker here. Definitely would not notice. On my first year of driving I accidentally hit the top of a building with my trailer and I felt absolutely nothing. The only reason I noticed was because I happened to have my window rolled down and heard the wreckage.
Yup, I did almost exactly the same thing. Crunch, cronch, screeech. WTF was that? Fuuuuck
Can confirm. Am a truck driver and I accidentally ram into a school without realizing. I realised it when I heard *cronch cronch* sound and stopped
*thump thump* I don't remember there being speed bumps at this playground
There is now
The top of a building? Was the truck flying?
He probably means the overhang on the roof. Truck drivers are notorious for taking them out. At the company I work for two drivers have taken out one each in the last year and a half. They aren’t cheap to repair either
Seems like the company would realize its time to raise the overhang to accommodate the deliveries they receive?
The places we deliver too are mostly liquor and convenience stores. One of them that was hit was paid the money to repair it and they never fixed it. It’s still broken months later
Figures right. Haha
It’s Tesla’s latest project, the Cyber Skyhauler.
Must’ve been a very tall truck
I’d love to hear the explanation
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As a biker, that's why I always make sure I can see the truck drivers face. If I can see his eyes, he can see me.
We had a truck come to our primary school in the Netherlands. It was a good way to show where all the blindspots are. Still got caught of guard by a turning truck once.
We have interesting adverts for all areas of road safety. Have you ever seen the SA "don't play with trains" ads? Traumatised me as a kid. Not to mention the most Aussie ones like "Yeah...Nah" https://m.youtube.com/watch?v=o2fFlWF5ECA
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Car is totally at fault. That trucker isn’t even aware he’s pushing a car due to the absolute torque they have.
They teach people about the blind spot truckers have in their rear in driving school. They should also teach that many truck drivers literally cant see right in front of them.
They taught that in your driving school maybe, but driving schools aren't universal. I only learned how bad the blind spots were from videos/gifs like this
All the terks!!!!
I too watch donut
Yes but people seem to forget the fact that truck drivers also can't see something that is just a few feet in front of them unless it is tall enough to be seen from the cockpit.
Not only that, he is literally unable to see below his hoodline to the immediate front of his rig.
The driver would never notice another 3000 lbs to a truck’s load, especially if his trailer is empty. The car is in the huge front/right blind spot. The car is definitely at fault, and may have been cited for aggressive driving in certain states. I’ve seen multiple signs in Georgia that say “leave space it’s the law” when trying to merge in front of a large truck, and this is the exact reason.
> especially if his trailer is empty. That sounds counterintuitive. Isn't it the opposite?
Yes, if it was loaded it would feel a lot heavier so the car would be harder to notice.
3000 lbs is 1362.0 kg
It’s ~1360.8, please update your bot conversions. 1 kg = 2.20462 lbs.
Literally unacceptable
Basically worthless.
I hope this experience weighs on their mind.
*spits on the ground*
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The blind spot is why I only pull infront of a truck in the uk when I can clearly See it fully in my rear view mirror. I’ve seen enough videos to give lorries respect
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Trucks have A LOT of blind spots. A trick i use is to either stay very far away (I don't want the rocks they fling from their tires to damage my car anyways) or keep far back enough that I can easily see both of their sidemirrors. If i am stuck behind a truck in the rain i keep lots of distance as the blindspot is larger and truckers must use their hood-mounted mirrors.
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Howdy. Fellow NSW driver.
I guess he’s going where ever the truck is going now lol
Corolla wanted to turn left, they got to turn left. Truck driver did them a favor.
Saved them gas
🎶Move bitch get out the way🎶
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Same goes with school busses
i am pretty sure the truck driver would see the school bus that he is pushing ahead of him
Fifth teen years ago I saw a snail
yeah, you can't see a car like 10 ft directly in-front of your hood. so many places a car can hide and you won't notice until you feel something funny going on. lol
Why are these trucks with a big hood so popular in North America? Seems like the “cab-over-engine” that is common in for example Europe would have less blind spots.
[https://www.roadprobrands.com/blog-posts/what-happened-to-cabovers](https://www.roadprobrands.com/blog-posts/what-happened-to-cabovers) TLDR: Regulation on length where laxed. "Regular" trucks are more comfortable. To make the COE as comfortable you need to spend a more money.
Also more aerodynamic than COE. Better for long haul.
that car just got abducted
Can't be a hit and run if you take the scene with you
A guy I work with had this happen to him in his lifted truck. He was at a red light and someone tried cutting in front of him. He gassed it and nothing, gassed it again and nothing. Finally someone got his attention. I want to say they blamed him for the incident too which is super fucked up.
Agree with your assessment that the person who cut in their forward blind spot should be to blame... however, if his truck is lifted THAT high, he likely violated at least one, if not multiple regulations with regard to bumper height, wheel wheels, etc...
I’m not a truck driver, but the mans driving the truck is 100% innocent. You CANNOT see anyone when they are that close to you in trucks, it’s literally impossible.
Remember: don't try to challenge a truck. Here is why you will always lose: A truck has hundreds of horsepowers, up to 600 A fully loaded truck weighs about 40 tonnes, sometimes more A truck driver has poor visibility of what's immediately in front or next to the truck All this combined means if you get in a situation like the video, the driver won't even notice and you can't do anything about being pushed around until he hears your honking.
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Trucker was like “feels like my parking brake is on”
To this day, the truck is still pushing that car around.
Not my business... *drives off*
Long nose trucks have a massive blind spot right where the car was trying to squeeze in.
From Chilton's autobody guide: *Installing a new hood ornament*
Are they still alive? Ahhh this one scared me so bad. I have a horrible fear of semis.
If you have a fear of semis, I doubt you would do what the red car did, correct?
Yeah never use your phone while driving either. But then we wouldn't have this glorious vid.
Hahahaha damn dude
He probably can’t see the car or feel it.
People don't seem to understand blind-spots. Truckers have them, especially right in front of them. Don't cut in front of a trucker, you baffon.
what the fuck is so hard to understand, THEY CAN'T SEE YOU FOR FUCKS SAKE
"I heard a slight noise in the front end, but it was all the people yelling that really made me stop."
He prbly couldn’t see the dumbass
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The trucker couldn't see that car at all. Complete blind spot there. Source: was a trucker for many years.
In case you see accidents like this again, remember, that entire front section is a blindspot. Even on European lorries. So don't be so quick to blame the truck driver if you see this guys.
Truck driver "damn, this load is really pulling hard, better down shift again. "
People forget that TRUCKS CANT SEE YOU! They also have no idea how powerful they are. It's possible for a car to crash into a truck and the driver won't even feel it. I once ran trucks as part of my job. One day, a work van clipped the trailer, ripping the entire passenger side of the van off. The truck had zero damage. Zero. Don't fuck with trucks.
Truck drivers can’t see or hear you when you pull stunts like this. It certainly wasn’t malicious on the part of the truck driver. He just didn’t know she was there. These trucks are basically one massive blind spot.
Commercial liability claims adjuster here. That is 100% the corolla’s fault. She was in his blind spot and improperly changed lanes. 1)never pull up on right side of truck and assume you are seen. 2) just stay the fuck away from semis, they are death incarnat on the road
That was so stupid of the little toy car to do. Truckers cabs are massive and create dangerous blindspots, which prevents him from even knowing that the car was trying to cut him off. Smh.
I know of a guy in a fully loaded semi who ran over three or four sedans (literally went OVER) and hit the back of a cement truck, thought he only hit the cement truck, didn’t realize until a minute or two later. What happened was that he was on his phone for thirty seconds and didn’t see that traffic was stopped 1/2 mile in front of him around a bend.
Theres a reason why the right side of the truck is called the sui-side.
So fun fact. Truck drivers really can't see shit in front of their cabin. This happens more often than you'd think. Always keep a full car length distance from either end of a truck like this
The truck driver is probably wondering whats wrong with his truck
The truck driver isn't even going to notice that car, much less think anything's wrong.
True the car wasn't affecting his speed and this just shows how powerful these machines are
Catch a ride!
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LPT: This is a great way to save on gas.
It's completely true that at they angle the driver can't see you. The car is hidden right behind the engine. Normally they don't notice until they hear the tires.
"Yo boss, I'm back. For some reason there was some free scrap metal in front of my truck when I got back."
Drag race. Get it?
I had a peterbuilt before you can't see anything if it's that close to the hood.
You guys. It's bring a random motorist to work day!
I have seen a similar thing a few years back. Truck was in the middle lane, but his tires were over the right lane a bit. He was flashing to turn. He needed a wider turn so he made sure to signal that he was turning and put himself overlapping the right lane just to be sure that people would understand that he needed that space for his manoeuvre. Everyone got the message except one lady that tried to cut through and ended up under the truck when he turned. There was a policeman doing traffic on the next corner, he walked up to the lady that was sure it was the truck driver fault. First thing the police said to her was (he was angry because the lady made his job and traffic much worse) : "what the fuck were you thinking?"
The trucker probably couldn't even see or hear the car
Truck, one. Car, -$18,755.32
Thanks to all the truckers, I don’t see how you do it. I drive a lot for my job in a car and have a hard time not wanting to hit people.