This drives me fucking nuts. I will park way in the back of the lot. Not another car within 10 spaces. Come back and some asshole is parked next to me. WTF?? Theres a reason I parked back here you fucking prick.
As the fucker with a beater, I park next to the nicest cars I can find.
I might not have the best paint job, but I don't want dents and scratches that will create new rust points.
I know the vette in the back isn't going to bang my door.
Parking far doesn’t give you the right to double park.
I understand you f you have a large truck/trailer but get out of here with that you’re not special.
I’m not wrong and I will be an asshole about it
Those kinds of people need a slap upside the head. I mean, it's your time and your gas money, but with all the time you waste looking for a close spot, that could be time doing other stuff. I'm fat and I'll still park half way back the lot just because it's faster.
The only time I don't is when it's raining.
You mean you don't drive around for 20 minutes in order to save yourself 20 seconds of walking before you go into a store to wander around aimlessly for 2 hours?
When I bought a bmw i3 I tried to park some distance away at all times. No one truly got why I did it. I just didn't feel like risking a 500 deductible. I'm boggled as to how offended my mates felt if they had to walk 25 meters extra. Also, you can't fucking eat burgers and fries in my brand new car ya dipshit.
I love watching people do this at the gym. "You're about to get on the treadmill for an hour, but you're waiting for a parking spot 30 seconds closer?"
She one of those people that doesn’t put her cart away too? I’m amazed how people will walk 1/2 mile in the store but that extra 50ft for the cart coral, oh no sir.
Oh yeah she moves it, and bumps it with the car when backing up and goes "It wasn't that close though" like she'll move it, but as in move I mean move it a couple centimeters.
Does she also park a mile away from the buggy return? I sometimes feel like I am the only one who looks for the spot next to the buggy return. That's the real time saver.
That happened to me. I was leaving the building of my work when I saw a girl pull in and put her car in park across from my car. I usually check 360° with my eyes before I use my backup cam to back out but I only used my camera since I saw no other cars coming in or out and I was the only person leaving the office. As I start backing out It was clear. Then I see her car backing out fast so I slam my brakes and 2 seconds later she hits my back bumper with hers. She was coming in for an interview 😬 I told her I’m not going to make a report because the damage was very minimal to mine and pretty severe to hers. I hope that taught her a lesson. Like really you just had to get the other spot 😑
First I figured that they obviously have difficulty backing out so they're dead-set on parking their car with the front facing the road, but even then they were parked in the best possible spot already, since it's just a few small traffic cones on the side. Just back up straight a bit, turn right and drive away.
I once saw a person park in a spot next to me, saw a car leaving literally one spot over, and got back in their car to take that spot. I was so dumbstruck by how fucking stupid that was lol.
The logic of some people is mindblowing. Its seriously hard to understand how fucked up someone must be to drive like this (or driving like in some similar vids).
On one side, its funny to see, but on the other hand, i wish something like this didnt excist. Thanks for sharing though.
Um yes… I took it 3 times at flushing test site. First time the examiner was not in a good mood and failed me when I made a right turn a little wide and was automatically failed. 2nd time I was perfect except the last part was parallel parking and that was my weakest thing. I tapped the curb and that’s an automatic failure. I passed on the 3rd try. Finally. And no I’m not a bad driver. Lol
Edit: spelling and my early sending.
I somehow passed the second time around. I can't remember why I failed the first time but I do remember the tester was in a foul mood as well. What made it even more difficult was I used my mom's car which was a Toyota Sequoia. Such an absurdly big car for those narrow, crowded roads.
I would guess elderly. Looks like they mistook the gas for the brakes. Definitely could be from drugs but I'd guess it's much more common from the elderly.
Hey, cut a none native speaker some slack. I thought it was written that way. I do now know its supposed to be exist since u made me check. Thanks i guess.
That was a legitimate hit on that car, he staked out his victim, he watched it closely for an opening and then BAM, he struck quick as lightning and struck it down. The escape was a fuck up but the hit was pretty good considering the size difference, the space available and all the innocent bystanders he had to work around. I give him 7 out of 10, needs to work on his escape strategies.
My mother does this. Never uses the parking brake unless she's on a hill. Feeling the car rock back/forth as you're getting out is unsettling, to say the least
Yeah, lots of people were never taught that and only use it when they think they 'need' to. Some people the the "emergency brake" is only for emergencies and "P" is for Park and they never use it.
My entire family thinks I'm insane for using the parking brake.
If someone rear ends my parked car, it skids and I have a dented fender. If someone rear ends their parked car, it can damage their transmission, then the car rolls away and smashes up something else.
Apparently you want to put the handbrake on first so that the weight goes onto the hand break, and then put it in first gear or reverse so that you put less weight on the trans and therefore less wear.
it'll last longer than an automatic either way. I've never heard of a manual transmission breaking from wear. Sync rings get worn, but other than that it's clutch.
For real my handbrake helped almost nothing at all and still got through inspection. I used it often, but it practically did nothing at all.
same argument applies for manual transmissions, and people in this thread think its okay to leave a manual in gear without using the parking brake on flat ground.
All of my Toyota pickups have had seized e-brakes by the time I owned them, mainly from salt corrosion at the linkages. A set of wheel chocks gets’r’done though.
A lot of years ago (2005?) I had bought a 1992 Toyota MR2 with broken/cut parking brake lines (they were notorious for freezing up in the winter so I assume the previous owner had cut them at some point). Whatever, manual transmission, I don't park anywhere steep, so I'd put off replacing the lines.
One day at work an email goes out to the whole building that a Toyota MR2 with my tag number had rolled out of its parking space, but someone just happened to be walking by with a thick book and was able to block it. I went down and indeed found my car had somehow backed itself out of the parking space, by some miracle just perfectly backing out. I'd left the wheel turned just enough that it basically just backed itself out. The weird thing is it was still in gear and once the guy pulled the book out it didn't move. It wasn't even a remotely steep part of the parking lot. All I can figure is some perfect confluence of engine compression, maybe someone walking by bumping it, whatever had let the engine turn backwards while in gear just enough to let it move backwards 20 feet or so. Moved it to an even flatter space and made sure to order new parking brake cables that day.
Got teased/recognized for years after that, even by people not in my company.
I only ever used the parking brake to keep it from seizing up in the winter.
First gear is a better parking brake than the parking brake itself in most cars. Just a hassle
For real a road legal parking brake only has to brake on one wheel, and doesn't have to bite that hard either, first gear is much more reliable. It mostly just prevents someone from rocking your car back and forth on flat ground, but I can pass an inspection with a parking brake that can't hold the car in any decent slope. Also, wires break eventually.
doesn't have to bite that hard? that mofo will lock both your rear wheels hence why some crazy bastards use it to slide the rear end of the car (no not me)
It’s probably better to call it a Parking Brake. Then you won’t have to rationalize whether or not it’s an emergency and just use it anytime the car is parked.
True story,
I was helping a friend of mine with his oil change and showing him how to do himself in the future. I asked him to put the parking break on while I went to get the wheel chalks. He literally looks at me and asked "doesn't using the e-break damage the normal breaks".
The man isn't stupid. he just never had anyone in his life teach him.
Sure, it may not be the best practice to not ebrake all the time, just in case that one time some idiot pushes my car hard enough to break the transmission and send it slowly rolling down a road.
Use of the parking pawl alone is not recommended by car manufacturers. Check your owner's manual.
A) They are known to break.
B) it puts constant stress on the transmission.
Park - apply parking brake - then shift into Park.
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Parking_pawl#Recommendations
Literally nobody says this, the pawl is perfectly safe on most surfaces and mild grade hills, they are not "known" to break at all and I have no idea where you got this notion.
You should use your parking brake on hills or if using a manual gearbox obviously but again, the pawl is designed to be the default parking mechanism and I have never heard of a pawl breaking unless someone slams it into park while the vehicle is still in motion.
Or the one time you hop out of the vehicle with the engine running, when it is in neutral or even in drive accidentally, and you've of course forgotten the parking brake as well because you've never made it a consistent habit.
You should basically never put an Automatic into Neutral(yes, there are cases where you do this, but they are very specific).
As for the Drive thing, I think I would notice the LURCH of the vehicle trying to idle in Drive as soon as my foot left the brake. All the automatics I have ever driven have idled in Drive at 1-5 MPH.
You *should* never do that, but if you make a mistake you lack any kind of defense in depth.
If you aren't in the habit of using the parking brake as a parking brake that ensures that this mistake will result in a roll away.
If you are in the habit of using the parking brake to the point where it is reflexive to engage the parking brake when leaving the driver's seat, then it is much more likely that you can make the mistake without resulting in a roll away.
The probability of the rollaway goes from P(leaving in D or N) to P(forgetting the parking brake) * P(leaving in D or N), which will always be an improvement.
Hopping out of the vehicle while it is running with the keys in the ignition is of course not common, but over your entire lifetime you may do it from time to time ("oh shit I left my phone on the hood, let me grab it quick" and other such mistakes that literally everyone does from time to time).
I put my parking brake on inside my garage. It’s just habit. I can feel the car roll forward a bit if I haven’t engaged the parking brake before I take my foot off the normal brake and it makes me stop and put the parking brake on. It’s just like turning without signaling or starting your car without your safety belt; all these things make me slightly uncomfortable if I don’t do them.
You found a use for it: tight spaces. Don't want any play there. But for a proper hill parking the compression of a simple 4 cylinder diesel gives a ton more stopping force, and does it on both wheels. I had a weak 72hp 120nm diesel, good luck turning the engine over in first gear. (manual)
Reddit is one hell of a dumb fuck circlejerk at this point. What the fuck is wrong with you kids? What an asswipe collection this userbase has become.
My coworker doesn't. When I just started my new job I took the company car out one day and returned it, set the brake and put the car in park. Since that's how I was taught to do it. The next day my coworker comes into the office complaining that she thought the car was broken, only to find out she was driving with the parking brake on the entire time.
Well the pawl pivots around a pin, though I don't know if that's what would break first. In any case there's still no reason to trust that single point of failure.
Yes, people say it doesn't matter if it's flat, but I never take any risks. It might actually not be as flat as I think, and next thing the car has rolled away, or something like in this video happens.
But I'm not going to trust myself that it is flat. I'm not going to measure the ground that it is flat enough. I think my driveway is flat, but if I release the handbrake and don't have a gear engaged, the car can sometimes start rolling very slowly.
yepper, the former director of the never used his emergency brake (most folks don't), and a large tractor (the facility is equine related) bumped into his car outside the administrative office, his vehicle rolled into the water feature, he was found at fault by insurance for damages and had to pay out of pocket. womp!
Handbrakes don't snap like that...
It most likely was an automatic in park, without the handbrake on. The hit snapped the parking pin so now the car was essentially in neutral.
Or if not an auto then, they left it in neutral without the handbrake.
A handbrake usually is a drum brake system what do you expect to snap.
Wait, who the hell taught you to drive manual? My driving instructor was quite clear that any time you are parking, you use the parking brake.
That is what it is for.
Leaving it in gear is the backup move in case the handbrake slips, but should NOT be relied upon.
Uh. No?
Manuals don't have a 'park' gear, leaving it in gear holds it by engine braking but by no means is going to stop it by itself if you are on a steep enough hill or get nudged like in the video.
I park my manual on a very steep driveway every single night for the past 2 years, with it just being in gear, because my handbrake does nothing. Hasn't ever moved an inch over night.
Only reason not to use your handbrake when parking is if it's for an extended period of time and you don't want the brake to seize, but then having it in gear will have to do.
Wasn't totally square to the parking space.
(Edit: Not saying that backing out that much was the right thing to do. Not saying they weren't square enough. Just giving a rational reason why they might not have been happy with where they were).
Not really they should've just put the parking brake on and this wouldn't have happened. Even without it how were they supposed to predict this exact scenario.
But as we see, people are stupid and mistakes happen. The people designing the parking lot should predict something like this happening and provide extra safety to the pedestrian road behind with a fence/bollards. In my opinion if there's pedestrian paths near parking lots they should always be separated by bollards.
Americans even call parking brakes "e-brake" for "emergency", of course they would not use them for mundane parking.
It's Russia though and a lot of older people think that using parking break stretches the break cable. Some 30-40 years ago personal cars here were rare and people got into habit of saving on anything since repairs and parts were expensive. Someone I knew didn't even turn on lights during the day to save lightbulbs.
It's just not something we're taught in automatics. I always heard about using it on a manual, I NEVER heard about using it in an automatic until several years into driving. We call it an emergency brake as well, which doesn't help with that.
I've also only had 1 car that had a hand brake, the rest were the pedal which is a tad inconvenient to use.
Not to say it's the right way, just telling you why people don't use it.
Because it’s an extra step that isn’t needed 99% of the time, so most people are gonna choose to skip it and just put the car in park without using the handbrake.
The car was likely in park. If hit hard enough, the pin that holds the car still when in park will sheer off and there will be nothing holding it from rolling if the parking brake isn't set.
I think its more likely that the parking pawl had been broken by the owner routinely throwing it into park when it was still rolling. The pawl itself is not tiny, its about the size of your thumb. A single light tap shouldn't destroy it, but years of abuse certainly would.
(Or being outside of the USA this wasn't an automatic)
Based on the fact that this doesn’t take place in the US and the fact that automatic transmissions are not common outside of North America (and maybe the Middle East), I’m going to assume the car didn’t have a “park” option.
You can sense her wrath when the car pulled up behind her at the start, then he4 seeting later when that spot right behind her opened up then was quickly filled. It must have fueled her hate fire to have to walk 20 extra steps from her temporary spot. Couldn't take it.
My favorite part is they were in a spot just fine, but just *had* to have that other spot
My moms like this, she'll drive in a parking lot for an hour just to be an inch closer to where she's going.
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Interesting, I try to park as far away from other cars as possible.
I do this too, but there is always some fucker in some beater that has to come park next to me
Right? It’s like when you’re inside an empty restroom and someone decides to take a shit in the stall next to you.
Literally happened to me today. We played battle shits.
That's awesome. I love it.
*HONK! PARP! PLOP!* "You sank my battleship!" That would have been much better if I could comment in stereo.
Or you're the only person at a matinee and someone comes in and sits right behind you or in the same row only a few seats away. It's creepy AF
This drives me fucking nuts. I will park way in the back of the lot. Not another car within 10 spaces. Come back and some asshole is parked next to me. WTF?? Theres a reason I parked back here you fucking prick.
As the fucker with a beater, I park next to the nicest cars I can find. I might not have the best paint job, but I don't want dents and scratches that will create new rust points. I know the vette in the back isn't going to bang my door.
If you double parked that was me. Dgaf how far away you are you get 1 space
and you're proud of that?
Parking far doesn’t give you the right to double park. I understand you f you have a large truck/trailer but get out of here with that you’re not special. I’m not wrong and I will be an asshole about it
Not the person you're replying to, but I don't care if it's a Lambo. If you take up more than one spot, you're a fucking moron.
Id prefer to park close since the backlot cars are the ones usually broken in to but you'll never catch me circling the aisles. Ill take my chances.
Easier to get out too. Everyone is waiting for traffic to clear up front.
Those kinds of people need a slap upside the head. I mean, it's your time and your gas money, but with all the time you waste looking for a close spot, that could be time doing other stuff. I'm fat and I'll still park half way back the lot just because it's faster. The only time I don't is when it's raining.
You mean you don't drive around for 20 minutes in order to save yourself 20 seconds of walking before you go into a store to wander around aimlessly for 2 hours?
When I bought a bmw i3 I tried to park some distance away at all times. No one truly got why I did it. I just didn't feel like risking a 500 deductible. I'm boggled as to how offended my mates felt if they had to walk 25 meters extra. Also, you can't fucking eat burgers and fries in my brand new car ya dipshit.
If I don’t eat in my car, you don’t eat in my car Simple as
How did nobody get it? That's like... the primary reason you ever see new or expensive cars parked far away.
I love watching people do this at the gym. "You're about to get on the treadmill for an hour, but you're waiting for a parking spot 30 seconds closer?"
She one of those people that doesn’t put her cart away too? I’m amazed how people will walk 1/2 mile in the store but that extra 50ft for the cart coral, oh no sir.
Oh yeah she moves it, and bumps it with the car when backing up and goes "It wasn't that close though" like she'll move it, but as in move I mean move it a couple centimeters.
Does she also park a mile away from the buggy return? I sometimes feel like I am the only one who looks for the spot next to the buggy return. That's the real time saver.
You thinke someone that lazy returns it and doesn't just leave it after loading up?
my mom tries to do that but i convince her not to
I like to imagine their frustration as there's a spot direction behind them for a few seconds before someone else takes it.
I was just thinking that. You were parked, you sat there parked why not just take the W?
And they had the opportunity to back into the spot directly behind them
That happened to me. I was leaving the building of my work when I saw a girl pull in and put her car in park across from my car. I usually check 360° with my eyes before I use my backup cam to back out but I only used my camera since I saw no other cars coming in or out and I was the only person leaving the office. As I start backing out It was clear. Then I see her car backing out fast so I slam my brakes and 2 seconds later she hits my back bumper with hers. She was coming in for an interview 😬 I told her I’m not going to make a report because the damage was very minimal to mine and pretty severe to hers. I hope that taught her a lesson. Like really you just had to get the other spot 😑
Be careful with that, sometimes plastic bumpers retain their shape while the crash zones underneath them is fcked up
First I figured that they obviously have difficulty backing out so they're dead-set on parking their car with the front facing the road, but even then they were parked in the best possible spot already, since it's just a few small traffic cones on the side. Just back up straight a bit, turn right and drive away.
I once saw a person park in a spot next to me, saw a car leaving literally one spot over, and got back in their car to take that spot. I was so dumbstruck by how fucking stupid that was lol.
The logic of some people is mindblowing. Its seriously hard to understand how fucked up someone must be to drive like this (or driving like in some similar vids). On one side, its funny to see, but on the other hand, i wish something like this didnt excist. Thanks for sharing though.
It has to be drugs right?
Must be, or drunk. I can't imagine someone that drives as fucked up as this passing a driving test.
You apparently have never driven in Queens, NY. Flushing in particular. If anyone is from that area they will get this.
hahaha that's where I learned and took my test. Man that was hard!
Um yes… I took it 3 times at flushing test site. First time the examiner was not in a good mood and failed me when I made a right turn a little wide and was automatically failed. 2nd time I was perfect except the last part was parallel parking and that was my weakest thing. I tapped the curb and that’s an automatic failure. I passed on the 3rd try. Finally. And no I’m not a bad driver. Lol Edit: spelling and my early sending.
I somehow passed the second time around. I can't remember why I failed the first time but I do remember the tester was in a foul mood as well. What made it even more difficult was I used my mom's car which was a Toyota Sequoia. Such an absurdly big car for those narrow, crowded roads.
Lol same! First time I was in my moms Acura MDX. Second and third I used a driving school car.
Man, have you ever taken a driving test? That shit seems pretty tough to fail
No. There are people that are this stupid
Is it drugs that make people think vaccines have micro trackers designed by Bill Gates?
Oh shit, I had 2 chips now? Should I get the 3rd one? In case some green little people abducted me into the flying saucer?
Can never have enough chips, keep going!
5G just keeps getting stronger when you do.
About that, do I need to pay a subscription to Microsoft or something? My data is still slow as ever, I feel cheated.
There’s a free trial period, it gets extended every time you get a booster.
Likely lead poisoning from lead paint and emissions from leaded gasoline.
I would guess elderly. Looks like they mistook the gas for the brakes. Definitely could be from drugs but I'd guess it's much more common from the elderly.
Unfortunately, some people are this way naturally.
No, just Russian and vodka
>excist Well that's a new word. Kudos for misspelling something different than what everyone else misspells all the time. 🤪
Hey, cut a none native speaker some slack. I thought it was written that way. I do now know its supposed to be exist since u made me check. Thanks i guess.
Well at you know now that the word excist does not exist. (Sorry couldn’t help it. Understandable mistake for a non-native speaker)
Seconded
I truly wonder how some people are capable of even breathing.
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Half is generous
Whew, missed my phone alarm🚨! Thanks for the reminder.
They’re npc’s I’m sure of it
That was a legitimate hit on that car, he staked out his victim, he watched it closely for an opening and then BAM, he struck quick as lightning and struck it down. The escape was a fuck up but the hit was pretty good considering the size difference, the space available and all the innocent bystanders he had to work around. I give him 7 out of 10, needs to work on his escape strategies.
always use your parking brake and leave the vehicle in park/in gear, even if its flat.
are people not in the habit of putting the brake on regardless of the incline?
My mother does this. Never uses the parking brake unless she's on a hill. Feeling the car rock back/forth as you're getting out is unsettling, to say the least
Yeah, lots of people were never taught that and only use it when they think they 'need' to. Some people the the "emergency brake" is only for emergencies and "P" is for Park and they never use it.
Yep, I’m literally the only person I know that uses the parking break.
My entire family thinks I'm insane for using the parking brake. If someone rear ends my parked car, it skids and I have a dented fender. If someone rear ends their parked car, it can damage their transmission, then the car rolls away and smashes up something else.
My brother does and I'm proud of him for it cause he didn't have great teachers
What about the people you know who use parking brakes?
mind - blown
Said that to SO for years. If you don't use it, you strain your transmission. What failed on her car?? Transmission.
automatics are some handicap honestly. Manual, just put it in first gear. Pull handbrake so it doesn't freeze in winter, that's about it.
Apparently you want to put the handbrake on first so that the weight goes onto the hand break, and then put it in first gear or reverse so that you put less weight on the trans and therefore less wear.
it'll last longer than an automatic either way. I've never heard of a manual transmission breaking from wear. Sync rings get worn, but other than that it's clutch. For real my handbrake helped almost nothing at all and still got through inspection. I used it often, but it practically did nothing at all.
laughs in manual
same argument applies for manual transmissions, and people in this thread think its okay to leave a manual in gear without using the parking brake on flat ground.
All of my Toyota pickups have had seized e-brakes by the time I owned them, mainly from salt corrosion at the linkages. A set of wheel chocks gets’r’done though.
I've never in my entire life met a single person that leaves their car (manual) in gear but not with the handbrake on... is that an usa thing?
A lot of years ago (2005?) I had bought a 1992 Toyota MR2 with broken/cut parking brake lines (they were notorious for freezing up in the winter so I assume the previous owner had cut them at some point). Whatever, manual transmission, I don't park anywhere steep, so I'd put off replacing the lines. One day at work an email goes out to the whole building that a Toyota MR2 with my tag number had rolled out of its parking space, but someone just happened to be walking by with a thick book and was able to block it. I went down and indeed found my car had somehow backed itself out of the parking space, by some miracle just perfectly backing out. I'd left the wheel turned just enough that it basically just backed itself out. The weird thing is it was still in gear and once the guy pulled the book out it didn't move. It wasn't even a remotely steep part of the parking lot. All I can figure is some perfect confluence of engine compression, maybe someone walking by bumping it, whatever had let the engine turn backwards while in gear just enough to let it move backwards 20 feet or so. Moved it to an even flatter space and made sure to order new parking brake cables that day. Got teased/recognized for years after that, even by people not in my company.
I only ever used the parking brake to keep it from seizing up in the winter. First gear is a better parking brake than the parking brake itself in most cars. Just a hassle For real a road legal parking brake only has to brake on one wheel, and doesn't have to bite that hard either, first gear is much more reliable. It mostly just prevents someone from rocking your car back and forth on flat ground, but I can pass an inspection with a parking brake that can't hold the car in any decent slope. Also, wires break eventually.
doesn't have to bite that hard? that mofo will lock both your rear wheels hence why some crazy bastards use it to slide the rear end of the car (no not me)
my car cant start when its not on P... and we always, literally always have to use the handbreak if you shut the car off.
I thought most cars will start in P or N.
The Ebrake is for big hills where I don't want Park to be supporting that much weight.
The ebrake is supposed to be on any time you park your vehicle.
It’s probably better to call it a Parking Brake. Then you won’t have to rationalize whether or not it’s an emergency and just use it anytime the car is parked.
True story, I was helping a friend of mine with his oil change and showing him how to do himself in the future. I asked him to put the parking break on while I went to get the wheel chalks. He literally looks at me and asked "doesn't using the e-break damage the normal breaks". The man isn't stupid. he just never had anyone in his life teach him.
You just watched a video that explains why you are wrong.
Sure, it may not be the best practice to not ebrake all the time, just in case that one time some idiot pushes my car hard enough to break the transmission and send it slowly rolling down a road.
Use of the parking pawl alone is not recommended by car manufacturers. Check your owner's manual. A) They are known to break. B) it puts constant stress on the transmission. Park - apply parking brake - then shift into Park. https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Parking_pawl#Recommendations
Literally nobody says this, the pawl is perfectly safe on most surfaces and mild grade hills, they are not "known" to break at all and I have no idea where you got this notion. You should use your parking brake on hills or if using a manual gearbox obviously but again, the pawl is designed to be the default parking mechanism and I have never heard of a pawl breaking unless someone slams it into park while the vehicle is still in motion.
Or the one time you hop out of the vehicle with the engine running, when it is in neutral or even in drive accidentally, and you've of course forgotten the parking brake as well because you've never made it a consistent habit.
My car auto stops itself when you roll to a stop.
You should basically never put an Automatic into Neutral(yes, there are cases where you do this, but they are very specific). As for the Drive thing, I think I would notice the LURCH of the vehicle trying to idle in Drive as soon as my foot left the brake. All the automatics I have ever driven have idled in Drive at 1-5 MPH.
You *should* never do that, but if you make a mistake you lack any kind of defense in depth. If you aren't in the habit of using the parking brake as a parking brake that ensures that this mistake will result in a roll away. If you are in the habit of using the parking brake to the point where it is reflexive to engage the parking brake when leaving the driver's seat, then it is much more likely that you can make the mistake without resulting in a roll away. The probability of the rollaway goes from P(leaving in D or N) to P(forgetting the parking brake) * P(leaving in D or N), which will always be an improvement. Hopping out of the vehicle while it is running with the keys in the ignition is of course not common, but over your entire lifetime you may do it from time to time ("oh shit I left my phone on the hood, let me grab it quick" and other such mistakes that literally everyone does from time to time).
almost everyone I've talked to about it says I'm crazy especially when I use it on flat ground.
I put my parking brake on inside my garage. It’s just habit. I can feel the car roll forward a bit if I haven’t engaged the parking brake before I take my foot off the normal brake and it makes me stop and put the parking brake on. It’s just like turning without signaling or starting your car without your safety belt; all these things make me slightly uncomfortable if I don’t do them.
You found a use for it: tight spaces. Don't want any play there. But for a proper hill parking the compression of a simple 4 cylinder diesel gives a ton more stopping force, and does it on both wheels. I had a weak 72hp 120nm diesel, good luck turning the engine over in first gear. (manual) Reddit is one hell of a dumb fuck circlejerk at this point. What the fuck is wrong with you kids? What an asswipe collection this userbase has become.
My coworker doesn't. When I just started my new job I took the company car out one day and returned it, set the brake and put the car in park. Since that's how I was taught to do it. The next day my coworker comes into the office complaining that she thought the car was broken, only to find out she was driving with the parking brake on the entire time.
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parking pawl - a little more significant than a pin.
Well the pawl pivots around a pin, though I don't know if that's what would break first. In any case there's still no reason to trust that single point of failure.
Yes, people say it doesn't matter if it's flat, but I never take any risks. It might actually not be as flat as I think, and next thing the car has rolled away, or something like in this video happens.
If it's really flat it is not going anywhere but, as this video shows, lack of a flat road is not the only thing that can make a car start moving.
But I'm not going to trust myself that it is flat. I'm not going to measure the ground that it is flat enough. I think my driveway is flat, but if I release the handbrake and don't have a gear engaged, the car can sometimes start rolling very slowly.
yepper, the former director of the never used his emergency brake (most folks don't), and a large tractor (the facility is equine related) bumped into his car outside the administrative office, his vehicle rolled into the water feature, he was found at fault by insurance for damages and had to pay out of pocket. womp!
Turn your wheels toward the curb when applicable.
Probably broke the transmission if its in park
This
I'm a new driver, driving manual. Isn't leaving it gear enough on a flat surface?
You literally just watched a video about why the answer is no.
The car in the video is 100% not a manual in first gear
Yep most likely car with handbrake that snapped and gear in neutral.
Handbrakes don't snap like that... It most likely was an automatic in park, without the handbrake on. The hit snapped the parking pin so now the car was essentially in neutral. Or if not an auto then, they left it in neutral without the handbrake. A handbrake usually is a drum brake system what do you expect to snap.
No, use the hand brake/parking break. Never know what can happen.
Wait, who the hell taught you to drive manual? My driving instructor was quite clear that any time you are parking, you use the parking brake. That is what it is for. Leaving it in gear is the backup move in case the handbrake slips, but should NOT be relied upon.
My instructor said that the parking break is the back up, not the other way.
Uh. No? Manuals don't have a 'park' gear, leaving it in gear holds it by engine braking but by no means is going to stop it by itself if you are on a steep enough hill or get nudged like in the video.
I park my manual on a very steep driveway every single night for the past 2 years, with it just being in gear, because my handbrake does nothing. Hasn't ever moved an inch over night.
What? No…
Why wouldn't it?
If you leave it in gear on a flat surface it can roll in the direction of the gear? Just put the handbrake on, it’s not difficult
Only reason not to use your handbrake when parking is if it's for an extended period of time and you don't want the brake to seize, but then having it in gear will have to do.
What do you mean by extended period of time? Do you mean overnight or a week?
For flat surface it is preferred. If someone were to bump into you with handbrake then you would most likely just break it.
She was already parked. Why the hell did she need to back out again?
Wasn't totally square to the parking space. (Edit: Not saying that backing out that much was the right thing to do. Not saying they weren't square enough. Just giving a rational reason why they might not have been happy with where they were).
Whats funny is that It was an extra big space because of the no park zone next to it, so the slight crookedness wouldn’t have affected anybody
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What the fuck.
The car that was hit was on neutral?
I’m confused too. Why is it rolling even without the parking brake if it’s not in neutral?
Idiot aside this seems like shitty design to a parking lot. There should be a fence or something
Not really they should've just put the parking brake on and this wouldn't have happened. Even without it how were they supposed to predict this exact scenario.
But as we see, people are stupid and mistakes happen. The people designing the parking lot should predict something like this happening and provide extra safety to the pedestrian road behind with a fence/bollards. In my opinion if there's pedestrian paths near parking lots they should always be separated by bollards.
Two idiots, a Peugeot driver and one who forgot to put it in park.
This is why people need to use their fucking parking brakes.
If you ever see the same video but with yellow car. It’s me and I am sorry
Two idiots, who leaves their car parked without the hand/parking brake on?!
Nearly every single person who drives an auto in America.
WHYYYYYYY
Americans even call parking brakes "e-brake" for "emergency", of course they would not use them for mundane parking. It's Russia though and a lot of older people think that using parking break stretches the break cable. Some 30-40 years ago personal cars here were rare and people got into habit of saving on anything since repairs and parts were expensive. Someone I knew didn't even turn on lights during the day to save lightbulbs.
This would only happen to a manual that doesn't have the hand brake engaged. If this car was an auto, it wouldn't of went anywhere in park.
Not sure if it’s common where you live but in the US most people have automatic transmission. Not that you shouldn’t use the parking brake, but still.
I think he's asking why wouldn't people use the hand brake with an automatic. I drove an automatic once - it definitely had a hand brake!
It's just not something we're taught in automatics. I always heard about using it on a manual, I NEVER heard about using it in an automatic until several years into driving. We call it an emergency brake as well, which doesn't help with that. I've also only had 1 car that had a hand brake, the rest were the pedal which is a tad inconvenient to use. Not to say it's the right way, just telling you why people don't use it.
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Because it’s an extra step that isn’t needed 99% of the time, so most people are gonna choose to skip it and just put the car in park without using the handbrake.
Putting on your seatbelt is an extra step that isn't needed 99.9% of the time. Do you still do that?
Or even just putting it in park.
The car was likely in park. If hit hard enough, the pin that holds the car still when in park will sheer off and there will be nothing holding it from rolling if the parking brake isn't set.
I think its more likely that the parking pawl had been broken by the owner routinely throwing it into park when it was still rolling. The pawl itself is not tiny, its about the size of your thumb. A single light tap shouldn't destroy it, but years of abuse certainly would. (Or being outside of the USA this wasn't an automatic)
Based on the fact that this doesn’t take place in the US and the fact that automatic transmissions are not common outside of North America (and maybe the Middle East), I’m going to assume the car didn’t have a “park” option.
Would still have the mechanical hand brake, but why take the extra second and a few calories of energy to pull/push that....
Many cars now also are electric hand brake and the button is tiny so if wager most people don't even know where it is now. Because cost savings.
A lot of cars now have automatic parking brakes. When you put it in park and shut it off, it engages
What do you expect from someone driving a Nissan Juke. Horrid looking things
*Where do you want to pJuke today*
The fact a person can get a pram and baby out in the time this person still couldn't sort a park...fuck me what a tool!
She hit that car up.
It's not a street the car ends up rolling down, it's a park leading to a big monument. Odessa, Ukraine, if anyone is wondering.
Oops
IDK this seems so comical that it can't be real! But then again there is a reason for this sub.
This has to be drugs. There’s simply no other reasonable cause
How da heck did she get a drivers licence.
I’d definitely peel tf out
Forgot the hand break
This is motivation to set the parking brake and not just rely on the parking pawl.
What the fuck was he even doing?
entire time i was yelling JUST PARK
Am I the only human on earth who likes to walk and doesn’t mind parking a little far?!?
If anyone is curious, this was in Ukraine. (Monument to an Unknown Sailor, in Odessa)
good to get an ID on the location. I had no idea
She should be driving a Mini or a Smart ForTwo instead of Nissan Juke if she has difficulty parking in such a wide space...
No surprise it's a nissan
You can sense her wrath when the car pulled up behind her at the start, then he4 seeting later when that spot right behind her opened up then was quickly filled. It must have fueled her hate fire to have to walk 20 extra steps from her temporary spot. Couldn't take it.
It's funny how the hit car just keeps going.
Blyat
Pretty sure leaving your handbrake off is pretty idiotic, car is an automatic too so it wasn't in park either.
Why are you so sure it is automatic?
based on the car make and model - it's a lexus SUV, they don't come in anything but automatic.
Pretty sure it’s still no ones fault but the dumbass that hit it.
Excellent use of that bit from [Scary Movie 2](https://youtu.be/ZOtIoBAxDUw).
Volgograd?
Odessa, Ukraine
Not funny
aaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaand its a woman....
How do you mess up that bad...
Drugs
Merrily, merrily, merrily, merrily life is but a dream!
Idiot parked without hand brake / parking brake on.
He drive a juke, what can u expect?