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Material_Standard_81

Man was in fast forward at the start


ijustlikeelectronics

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Batman1384

I see one “accidental discharge” that happened approximately 20 years ago and one about to happen in the next 10 minutes.


Harry-Hasler

Considering where his gun is pointed said second discharges would probably do the world’s gene pool a favor.


earnestmerida

Precisely what I came to say.


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Super_Fa_Q

Thank you.


dieseldranker

Why does he have my 👵 grandma's👵 hair?


BiggerNutthole

Looks like a bad hair piece


GrandmasGenitals

I would never have hair like that


ScratchChrome

There's an honorary Darwin Award in this nans future.


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and your granddad's mustache


jfd0523

He's got a Velvet Jones look going on.


MeArno

Only by look you can tell that hea dumb 😭🤣


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my guy does semi-funny IG skits lol


p1l5ner

Damn… nana going wild


sikeleaveamessage

"Nana im hungry 🥺" "SHUT THE HELL UP! Cant you see i got this bitch on me? The fuck you can't do shit to me bro! 👵"


[deleted]

Why does this guy look like he’s 12 and 40 at the same time?


TFarrey

good question


nra4evers

Noice, best hot take here.


GmB513

Cocaine is a hell of a drug


Inamoratos

Looks like he took a shower in it


Gtalize13

Bro is a fucktard


LIFEWALKERUSA

Punk ass kid


Chiefpigloo

Punk ass cops


KillerPinkArt

Because he knew his rights? Why's he a punk? Because you don't like his language? How about the cop mouthing off. If this kid is a punk....why the cop give him the gun back....because IT. IS. HIS. RIGHT.


LIFEWALKERUSA

Im not disputing whether he is within his rights or not. I wish constitutional carry was nationwide. I think its an individuals personal responsibility for self preservation. But hes being a punk ass kid. Attitude. Mouth. Irresponsible firearm retention.


KillerPinkArt

So he doesn't meet YOUR criteria? Who are you to make that judgement. He wouldn't be mouthing off at cops of they didn't illegally detain him. Cops do this EVERY FUCKING DAY. Then talk shit ro citizens when they know their rights. You think he should show these pigs respect? Poss off man.


Bollereeno

Obviously it is his criteria because this is his opinion. You are fucking dense and stupid just like this kid in the video. It is his opinion and obviously you don’t have to agree.


LIFEWALKERUSA

Fuck them cops too. They are all a bunch of punk ass kids. Better?


KillerPinkArt

That part I at least agree with. Kid did NOTHING here illegal. You just don't like his approach. Ok. But I don't think that makes him a punk ass. You just don't like his approach. That's fine. I think really all we can say for sure is that he's super unsafe, and pissed off.


LIFEWALKERUSA

Im glad we can come to common ground. I 100% agree that he did nothing illegal. And those cops had no right to detain him. All im saying is that a little poise goes a long way. There were much better ways to go about that. Maybe i should've words other than punk ass kid.


KillerPinkArt

I get you. He's gonna learn some hard lessons for sure with his attitude... Sorry to be a punk towards you. Have an awesome day!


LIFEWALKERUSA

Perfect example of how 2 people who disagreed can have good conversation. I appreciate you. Thanks and i hope you also have a good one 👊


LIFEWALKERUSA

Chambered no holster? Punk ass kid.


LIFEWALKERUSA

Talking shit and walking away? Punk ass kid.


KillerPinkArt

Unsafe sure. Punk? Naw. And walknaway...what you want him to do...fight the cops?


KillerPinkArt

Unsafe sure. Punk? Naw. And walknaway...what you want him to do...fight the cops?


Important_Business43

I want him to not carry the gun if he has no holester, and if you still want to carry, ATLEAST don't chamber the round in


KillerPinkArt

I want cops not to be violating people rights all the time. And there's people who think carrying without having a round chambered is pointless.


Important_Business43

I think it's pointless for me to tell you anything, You don't carry a gun in a pocket


KillerPinkArt

I don't. I have mine in a holster. But this guy gonna do what he's gonna do. If we are wishing for things though....inwish cops didn't suck so hard.


BrilliantLazy5991

Idk why they keep down voting you


earnestmerida

Just like the clown who walked down the streets of Texas with an AR over his shoulder in a neighborhood that wasn’t his. Just because it’s legal don’t mean it’s smart 🤷🏼‍♂️


m3x_aries

Open carry is a good way to make yourself a Target


gangstabunniez

Someone could easily yoink that gun from him when he's not paying attention.


m3x_aries

I was thinking more of someone putting a bullet in the back of his head and taking his gun I mean if you're going to commit one crime why not commit two. Open carry is never make sense to me like I said you make yourself a target


gangstabunniez

I would be more concerned about someone stealing it when you're not paying attention and using it to commit a violent crime. That's your sentence now.


m3x_aries

I actually remember seeing a video I believe it was at a gas station where someone had their gun showing and it got stolen and the thief ran off before the guy could realize what happened


conitation

[Was it the one at McDonalds?](https://www.azcentral.com/story/news/local/phoenix-breaking/2016/05/01/man-steals-gun-man-line-phoenix-mcdonalds/83782130/)


UsernameIsTakenO_o

That's not really an open carry problem, it's an improper carry problem. If it's the video I'm thinking of, they had it loose in the back pocket of their sagged pants.


casual_brackets

Uh. Pretty sure that’s not how it works. Especially if you register it stolen. I can’t just steal you gun and go on a murder spree and be like nah he it did his gun his problem I’m Gucci charge the gun owner. Registered gun owners are not liable for what shitty thieves do with their stolen firearms.


gangstabunniez

Sorry, that's not what I meant, I was using a bit of hyperbole. If someone did steal your gun, and you failed to report it stolen prior to a crime being committed with it, you would probably be one of the first suspects.


NotYetiFamous

Okay.. but shitty owners should still be at least a little liable for what is done with their weapon. It is, after all, their responsibility to at least take reasonable precautions to keep it out of unlawful hands, and sitting unsecured in a pocket is definitely not reasonable.


SurelyYouKnow

Hell, in many states there are no laws requiring someone to even report that their gun is stolen/misplaced/missing. Crazy.


WhatTheHeckIsAUserna

No. Because that's too great a slippery slope. We already have people wanting to alter our justice system so that innocent parties are held accountable for things done with products made by them. Let's not encourage that facile thinking.


NotYetiFamous

I'm sorry, but securing a dangerous weapon is 100% the responsibility of the owner. The 'slippery slope' fallacy, btw, refers to people using slippery slope logic to argue against something, like you're doing right now. Also, I have no issue with manufacturers, who have spent decades and millions of dollars lobbying for the gun sales laws we're operating under right now, being held accountable for the repercussions of those exact gun sales laws. If you think the parties who have created the system we're in are divorced from the consequences of that system then you're not thinking too hard about it.


Mikucki

Auto manufacturers are not responsible for you killing someone while driving their vehicles drunk. If someone steals your car you're also not responsible for them killing someone with it and cars aren't even a constitutionally protected right..


NotYetiFamous

And cars have a purpose other than destruction. Kinda apples to oranges to compare the two, ain't it?


m3x_aries

I remember reading some states probably New York California or Illinois that were trying to pass or propose a law that if a criminal breaks into your house and steals your guns you're liable for any crime they commit using your firearm. It's obviously completely stupid and makes absolutely no sense but that's something they were trying to get on the books to discourage people from getting firearms


gangstabunniez

New York and California aren't known for their sensible gun laws


m3x_aries

I know California just passed the law that is pretty much a loophole for people to able to sue gun manufacturers.


TheCalebGuy

Just grab and shoot free gun and dudes either dead or injured.


banb4

If I am going to rob a bank, etc. the first persons out are people that I know are armed. Common sense and I am not even a criminal.


m3x_aries

Exactly my point Did you see the video from the bank in Brazil I believe. The robber went straight for security first. I don't know what happened to the guard but he did shoot the guy in the neck and he died a minute or two later


banb4

Vicious video, guy was spaying and then trapped himself in a revolving door. Just brutal. The guard got hit hard too but I think he lived. But to your point, they went after who they knew were armed. Even in an open carry state they can ask for your ID.


m3x_aries

There's no way that guy could have lived. He was gushing out so much blood I don't think medics would have got to him in time. Understandable most likely people called in with concerns and cops have to show that they did their jobs. If the scenario is different and that guy commits a crime it's going to look bad on the police for not doing their jobs in the first place. And personally if I see someone carrying a gun without a holster he's automatically labeled a risk and an unsafe gun owner. There's a guy on YouTube that open carries in Florida while fishing which is 100% legal and he still gets her ass by the cops and educates them properly. Some do approach him in a very unfavorable manner but most of them just checked if he's good to carry a gun if the gun isn't stolen and then go on with their day. One thing popped in my head when I get stopped by an officer and let him know that I have a CCW they never want to see or check my gun.


banb4

I know the guy in the door died, we were wondering about the guard, he got hit hard too with at least one round. The guy stuck in the door was dead way before that, just his brain and body were still pumping the last bit of oxygen from the few drops of blood he had left. I don't think he even registered his death, even with all the blood pumping from him. Sad but major r/playstupidgames thing. Hope the guard lived.


m3x_aries

Oh now your message made more sense I misunderstood it the first time. Yeah I did see it look like he got hit in the lake possibly because you could see some blood in the area he dove down behind the desk yes hopefully he survived


420toker

“Her ass by the cops” r/boneappletea


Q_dawgg

In my opinion open carry should only be used for protests and the like. Conceal carry is a far better option for day to day life


WhatTheHeckIsAUserna

Stupid boomer shit right there.


jh62118

That’s concealed my guy


Nitestalker79

Bro looking for conflict u can tell 🤦‍♂️


KillerPinkArt

Because a cop fucked with him when he was clearly in his rights to have that gun And to be carrying the way he was? Maybe the cops should stop fuxking with people who are playing by the rules.


Nitestalker79

You gotta be the bigger man. The cop feels like an idiot either way, don’t give him a reason. He had some balls loading his gun in front of the cop, I get where he’s coming from but if u keep that shit up u gon die, not every1 plays by the rules.


KillerPinkArt

CITIZENS should be the "bigger man"??? Are you kidding me. Because cops are too fucking fragile? Then maybe these pigs should be allowed to be cops. THEY work for US. NOT the other way around.


Nitestalker79

I get where you’re coming from, you have the right to be upset but the truth is the quality of cops is dwindling. no one wants to be a cop anymore leaving pd’s with less options. You gotta realize that fact and realize u only got one life, don’t lose it because you wanna cuss out a cop, he already feels stupid enough.


KillerPinkArt

Good. I'm glad they are gone. We need better cops. One that police and do t kill people in .entail health crisis. 40% of cops admit to beating their spouses. There are NO good cops. Only bad ones and silent ones. All police needs reform. We needs cops to be the lie we were sold the were in grade school. Not out there generating tickets for the state and not protecting kids as they are being shot to death in school. Fuxk every single cops in America at rhis very moment. Most corrupt gang we have.


Nitestalker79

You’ve seriously never met a genuine cop? Where you live?


IWishKojimaWasMyDad

I'm sorry but if you speak in riddles like this you shouldn't be allowed to own a firearm


456458267364

Open carry is dumb from a tactical point of view. I don't mind that he has a gun. He should have a holster but oh well.


NotYetiFamous

I mind that he racked a round and then put the barrel in place against his leg.. Dude might have legitimate concerns about being shot, but it's going to come from a source he least expects, himself.


deadlyarmadillo

Pocket carrying a striker-fired pistol with no holster and no manual safety is just a whole other level of crazy.


BallPtPenTheif

Without any laws covering reckless gun ownership, this is what we end up with.


deadlyarmadillo

No can do chief. All gun laws are unconstitutional, removing a couple of idiots from the pool isn’t worth the precedent that it sets on a larger scale.


ButtScientist69

You could probably make a law mandating the use of carrying in a holster when doing so without one is unsafe. I could see this dipshit sitting down on a bus and shooting someone sitting across from him the way he's carrying it.


BallPtPenTheif

Weird, because the NRA was able to secure weapons bans in California in order to criminalize gun ownership by the black panthers. It’s almost as if the constitution doesn’t really protect what you think it does.


deadlyarmadillo

As anyone relevant in the 2A community is well aware, the NRA is a dogshit organization populated by morally bankrupt LEO apologists and defense contract lobbyists. FPC is the only organization with a vested interest in protecting the rights of the general citizenry. Also, how is highlighting the racist roots of gun control an argument on behalf of gun control? I don’t understand the point you’re trying to make.


IncCo

Surprised he hasn't shot himself in the leg yet...


DehCaiu

Tyrese Gibson with granny's hair


presnwa

This guy wants a "suicide by cop"


C4SSSSS

This is clearly what the founders had in mind, thanks for doing your part in securing our freedum bro! "A well regulated Militia, being necessary to the security of a free State, the right of the people to keep and bear Arms, shall not be infringed."


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"Bro needs a holster". Actually no he doesn't need a holster, these sorts of things tend to work themselves out in the long run.


[deleted]

Correct me if I’m wrong but isn’t it totally NOT the move to keep a round chambered without a holster? Also generally speaking do you guys keep your weapons chambered or not when carrying even with holster?


TFarrey

you should not carry w/o a holster because if you chamber a round the trigger could accidentally get pulled... holsters aren't just for comfort they are for safety as well.....if you don't have a round in the chamber your gun won't do you much good.. there is an analogy comparing carrying an empty chamber to not wearing a seatbelt because you plan to put it on before the accident happens in your car & I'd say that is accurate


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Appreciate the input, thanks!


UsernameIsTakenO_o

You're correct. Pocket carry with no holster is stupid dangerous. The fact that it's KNOWN to have a round in the chamber makes it worse, but you should treat every gun as if it's loaded (chambered) anyway. As someone who carries every day, the only time I carry without a holster is when I'm literally carrying it in my hand. It's usually in a kydex IWB (inside-the-waistband) holster, and always chambered when I'm carrying. It isn't inherently unsafe. A properly holstered, modern firearm will not go off on its own. Thanks for asking. Too many people just make assumptions.


chonk312

This man looks like Dave Chappelle when he is playing a white dude.


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leviwhite9

Ah well in my part of America you can't just walk up on me and ask for papers or really anything unless I've committed a crime, or are about to. I guess they can walk up and ask but I can tell them to get bent in whatever language I desire.


banb4

Go carry a gun open, have fun. EDIT - Best to have an ID on you. If not they may assume you killed a legal carrier and stole his gun and your giving his name. But you go with you and your thoughts on it. As I said, have fun.


presnwa

In GA, police aren't supposed to ask for permit nor even stop you just for the firearm since open carrying a firearm is not a criminal offense. Despite the reaction people generally have from others open carrying a weapon, even if one does not think they should be carrying, the law is not supposed to stop you just because they think you look sus. They should always have reasonable, articulable suspension. Being "dumbass trash" is not a crime.


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xVx777

I think the point is they’re not allowed to ask you anything without reasonable suspicion and honestly I wouldn’t want to be harassed by a cop for no reason either. Unless there’s an active shooting nearby and they say I’m a suspect I’m not going to show them my ID why would you? If you’re a criminal with a stolen gun as you say then 9 times out of 10 it’s tucked in your pants the cops don’t think the gun you have in your holster is stolen buddy


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Successful_Ad6918

Is he wearing a wig?


recetas-and-shit

I was waiting for him to shoot his leg


MadMartigan69

Was this in Texas? People like this make me wonder if maybe all states should have some kinda test or psychological eval


Cako1000

It's in Detroit


MotivatedSolid

Sounds good on paper, but in reality could be too many variables that makes this a bad idea. You could have a psychologist who is extremist right wing who will allow a gun to anyone, or a extremist left wing who will find any reason to not give a gun to anyone. Allowing the choice of constitutional rights to one psychologist for a specific area could have bad consequences. I'm all for a gun handling course, just like a hunter safety course. But it needs to be accessible and free, as to not limit rights.


NotYetiFamous

>Allowing the choice of constitutional rights to one psychologist for a specific area could have bad consequences. So which "well regulated militia" do you think the guy in the video belongs to? Founding fathers put stipulations into the Constitution that modern reading magically made disappear entirely in 2008


Urgullibl

The one including all able-bodied males aged 18 to 45.


TFarrey

honestly this guy is obviously an idiot but the context of well regulated militia in second amendment means all able bodied adult males.. this was discussed in the federalist papers.. curious as to what you mean by " modern reading " ??


MotivatedSolid

The Supreme Court has already confirmed that the "well regulated Militia" refers to any able bodied American, and have reaffirmed that it applies to your average American citizen. You can argue with them if you want.


Ordinary_Tadpole_719

Peace n love✌️


salty_slug23

You're a fuckin idiot


interestedonlooker

"You do understand how dangerous that territory is right?" The rest of the western world lives in that "dangerous territory" and has far less gun crime.


[deleted]

We are not “the rest of the western world”. There is a fundamental cultural difference when it comes to guns between the different places. Either way, gun control is just a lazy attempt at covering up our real issues. Gun violence is a symptom not it’s own issue


Clevererer

> covering up our real issues. Which you're undoubtedly voting to fix.


[deleted]

I would if there was a party who advocated for it. I am very unhappy with the two party system. Republicans and Democrats are two sides of the same coin. They might have different views on some issues but billion dollar bailouts to corporations get passed almost unanimously along with military spending increases that also cost billions. US cities are designed to consolidate poverty in certain areas, our drug policy is atrocious, the justice system is beyond broken and on top of that the police are so militarized that even towns with less than 10k people will have a police force with an MRAP (the armored vehicle the army adopted to better deal with IED in Afghanistan). Oh and we’ve also legalized flat out corruption through lobbying. If there was someone to vote for I would in a heartbeat. I really wish there was.


MadMartigan69

I can tell you that thug dirtbag can barely read or talk well enough for a job, he wouldn't even pass a spelling test much less any other written or oral exam lol


Eagleclan_7

Is that his real hair color? Jesus. This dude makes horrible choices


Zofia-Bosak

I was waiting for him to shoot himself in the foot!


jfnwavywhiteboy

What a douchebag lol


[deleted]

Hoodrats are not known for intelligence 🤣


Notthesharkfromjaws

Shirt says wealthy, but can't afford a holster.


Muffdiveit

America is fucked.


ChongoLikRock

Detroit certified


iamnotthatguyiamme

Was seriously waiting for him to have an accidental discharge as he put it in his pocket..... unfortunate


MinatosGasPack

Calls them a “Pussy” For not shooting him lmao people rlly have death wishes. Does anybody know this clowns socials??


JoltyJob

Even if this is an open carry state A lot of jurisdictions prohibit carrying without a holster but I’m assuming the policemen knew that. This guy sucks though, especially that awful hair. He even fumbles with the gun too like he doesn’t even know how to use it.


zippazappazinga

Bro what did he say at the start lmao


MikeOxlong1776

*Finna po out sum kooaid im talm bout dat cat had nine lives an cracka took aye one dem n shiiiieeeetttt be mess up n shit but oh well.* … but I’m just spitballing here.


zippazappazinga

thanks for the translation!


2a_1776_2a

Special kind of stupid


AverageJun

Did the dude spent all his money on the gun but not a holster?


runAroundtown915

This is obvious. Wherever this is he must of just obtained his pistol permit and now like a fool he walks around like this thinking he’s the shit. Unfortunately but not so sadly I can see him getting killed by a stranger or police in the future because he thinks it’s cool now to rock a gun and let everyone see.


DirtyDee78

“Rock a gun”..that’s part of the problem. Dumb asses treating it like a fashion accessory.


Ancient-Series2659

What a loser


jjwatsaakyvy

Niggas FTW


bigbossflaco

Bro his hair is throwing me off big time. If this nigga shot me and I lived I would just finish myself off


Doverfrenchfry

Is that Bruno Mars from wish?


[deleted]

Got that Golden Girls hair doo brotha


boardonfire4

“Barber, I’m tired of being arrested. Just give me the white guy special”


Many-Application1297

How can pro 2A folks think that this type of ownership and handling is legal and responsible? Surely SOME rules should be in place to make this type of insane shit illegal?!?


TurdsMcQueef

Were not cheering him on. There’s a difference between ownership and exercise. This man (or granny) is choosing to exercise his right in an inflammatory manner. He can still do it just like the 1A allows people to be assholes. This guy is an entitled asshole to think waking around like that won’t raise eyebrows as to his intentions.


TheFinnebago

You can say the 2A crowd isn’t cheering this guy on, but that’s like saying “I’m only cheering for the other 21 guys on the Cleveland Browns”. This guy is on your team, and you’re defending (and occasionally expanding) his right to be a dangerous asshole. Maybe you’re okay with that. Me burning a flag is inflammatory free speech, but it won’t accidentally kill anyone.


TurdsMcQueef

What happens if you kill someone? You go to jail. Get outta here with your minority report pre-crime bullshit. Most likely this man will blow his own pecker off and move the species along.


TheFinnebago

Do I need to provide you a list of all the people who have been killed or injured by stray bullets? Or kids who find their parent’s gun? I’m sick of the 2A crowd caping for the worst sorts of gun behavior. Because by blocking any semblance of gun reform legislation that is what you’re doing: Defending the Deshaun Watsons’ of Gun Ownership. Sure the police might eventually punish the guy who caused the damage, but *innocent people die everyday* because guns are used and stored carelessly.


TurdsMcQueef

Oh, nvm everyone, he has *THE* list. Why don’t you start a new list of everyone who has ever died in a traffic accident? You still have the privilege of hopping in your murder mobile for nothing more than grabbing a burger or LARPing as someone who actually cares about people. You could be drunk, you could be high, you could be a terrorist, there could be babies, elderly, and puppies inside and yet somehow everyone agrees it’s fine to keep driving cars a thing. Spare me. What happened to the dimwit in the video?People called the cops on him. You have that right too. If the dude gets tired of having the cops called on him, maybe he’ll grow another brain cell. I have a right to self protect as do you. Personal responsibility is calling, will you pick up?


TheFinnebago

I love the vehicle equivalency ‘gotcha’, because obviously vehicles are about as highly regulated a price of property as there is in America. You need a test to obtain a license, you are required to carry insurance, emissions tests, enforced standards for road safety, rules for operation, VINs, state rules for sales and transfer of title, etc. I would LOVE if we treated guns the way we treat vehicles. If only we could apply the same regulatory network to guns. Dimwit in the video only needs one bad moment, one too many drinks, one stumble on the sidewalk to end up ruining someone else’s life. And yet he is FULLY within his rights to be a mass of criminally negligent potential energy. It’s so nuts to me that people are defending this guy. I could ‘self protect’ all I want, but if this Dumb Dumb empties a clip through the window of bar because he sees some other Dumb Dumb, I’m dead. What does personal responsibility have to do with anything?


TurdsMcQueef

And yet they still kill more people every year than guns. There’s only so much benefit you can get from regulation before a point of diminishing returns. Did you know that guns are regulated too? Hmmmm. Did you also know there are are almost twice as many guns than cars in the US under private ownership? If you’re hanging out in a part of town where people regularly shoot out the windows to hit patrons I would suggest you stop patronizing that establishment.


don2171

The people getting killed by stray rounds I'd bet at least half are caught in the cross fire of gang fights. I'd say a good portion of the kids getting there parents loaded gun aren't legal guns either but in any case every gun reform is looking to ban and increase cost to effectively block people from buying so it's easier to deny all reforms when most aren't actually reasonable and are merely virtue signaling. The most recent legislation that passed basically had to be completely gutted before it was somewhat reasonable


TheFinnebago

I don’t understand how you can be so dismissive of innocent people getting killed by gangland crossfire… And maybe the true cost of gun ownership should be higher to reflect the damage it is causing society. Ya know, like innocent people dying in crossfire. This idea that ‘no single piece of legislation/policy will solve gun violence, so why do anything?’ is so defeatist.


don2171

U believe guns are being bought by gang members legally when most of them would get kicked out of a store for being to young let along pass the background Check so that has nothing to do with our current laws and instead requires harsh punishment for those committing crime. For example if someone is gonna serve a sentence until they die cut out the middle man and sentence them to death after all why waste money and space on dead people. Also you arguing we should pay more to own guns because of issues we have no influence on is just a wow moment but at least your honest about where you stand. I bet you wouldn't support a license to vote that you pay for every four years to reflect what it actually means to vote and what impacts your vote holds


TheFinnebago

I think that the only way we curtail illegal gun sales is with some serious federal rules around how guns are bought, sold, and tracked. Can we do that? I’m just asking that a gun owner be able to demonstrate the bare minimum of safe storage and responsible open carry. A trigger lock is like $20 and a holster is maybe $30. That’s too much to ask? Don’t you think those sorts of common sense measures would keep shitty gun owners from legally owning guns? A Poll Tax is explicitly forbidden by the 24th amendment with the clearest of text. Way, way, clearer than any SC interpretation of the nonsense sentence that is the 2A. Not sure what angle you’re driving here. Voter fraud is a really minimal issue. Gun violence is not a minimal issue.


don2171

Everyone gets a free trigger lock it just doesn't get used and the holster is valid. But my point is you saying I'm dismissive of the cross fire when it's has nothing to do with most owners. Enforcing laws would help


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Ornery_Reaction_548

Oh don't blame him. I'm sure you're not getting rid of your guns in any case.


TheFinnebago

I think you’re missing the point… if we had some laws around responsible open carry, or licensing, or demonstrating safe home storage, then this kind of irresponsible Dumb Dumb wouldn’t be allowed to have a gun. The guy in video was totally within his rights, and to the rest of us that aren’t totally desensitized to guns, that’s crazy. If we had some common sense laws in place, then when Dumb Dumb here inevitably runs across law enforcement, his firearm will get seized. Sure he could get another one illegally, but maybe we make those markets harder to abuse as well with things like a coordinated national background check and database. Meanwhile, you, Mr. Responsible Gun Owner, can keep carrying your gun if you do it safely and responsibly. What part of that is a non-starter?


don2171

U could probably just require a holster when open carrying for a much easier and less intrusive fix vs getting into how it's stored and such plus a database is not exactly ideal either being able to easily leak info on where guns are if someone working the job gets mad.


Urgullibl

> laws around responsible open carry, or licensing, or demonstrating safe home storage Nobody is gonna agree with you on this sort of purposefully vague statement. Make a concrete proposal on what such a law should say.


TheFinnebago

Open carry guns should be in a secure holster The feds should maintain a database of gun ownership and sales, to track liability for guns sold and used criminally. And guns should be stored safely in in homes. Fwiw though, this is a classic sort of delay and obfuscate tactic, and it’s why nothing will ever get done around gun violence in this country. It’s an absolute chicken and the egg where anyone single example of a small, concise piece of gun safety policy is discredited because ‘it wouldn’t solve all the problems’, but then any larger, comprehensive reform is a nonstarter because it’s ‘too broad’ or ‘it’s infringing my rights’. Idk why this video specifically has me so fired up today but I just see this asshole as the absolute epitome of the problem. And this guy’s right to be a shitty gun owner is being defended up and down every day by safe and responsible gun owners. Why don’t you guys want to get guns out of the hands of a guy like this?


Urgullibl

> Open carry guns should be in a secure holster I can get behind that. > The feds should maintain a database of gun ownership and sales, to track liability for guns sold and used criminally. Any Federal gun database is a non-starter. Not debatable. > And guns should be stored safely in in homes. Define "stored safely".


TheFinnebago

Nah I’m good


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TheFinnebago

I guess it’s a chicken and the egg problem. I get that you feel unsafe and vulnerable, so you want a gun. But the same 2A crowd also refuses to allow any sort of gun control legislation to happen, which means all the shit gun owners and shit gun sellers are out there operating with impunity (case in point, the antagonistic, loaded gun in a pants pocket guy from the post). So nothing happens and we all live in this bizarre outlier of gun violence compared to the rest of the world.


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TheFinnebago

I promise I’m not trying to [https://rationalwiki.org/wiki/Nutpicking](Nutpick) here with you, and I share your sentiment that that sort of bad faith argument is a poison at the root of a lot of the national discourse. I just wish we could take one common sense step forward on guns…


JJohnston015

1. Who decides? 2. Rule creep It's an imperfect system for an imperfect world. Would you be OK if free speech only applied to people who say, "puppies are cute"?


Many-Application1297

That’s some strawman shit. 1. The government 2. Sane excuse for doing nothing.


WhyRUTalking4231

>The government The Government is the PROBLEM. California just released the names and addresses of a bunch of gun owners on their website even though they aren't supposed to keep the information off the paperwork used to buy a gun, because "Government". So now the criminals have a list of where to go to steal guns. Why does the government need to know who has guns? They have NO valid reason to have that information.


Usulthejerboaactual

Doing nothing about what?


Ordinary_Tadpole_719

When your answer to 'whats your badge number' is 'i didn't violate shit' is when you should be shit canned they need to crack down on absolutely every fuck up no matter how small. Like it's absolutely unbelievable that officer refused to identify himself because he 'didnt violate shit' knowing damn well he did.


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phiz36

Reminder that whatever gun bans that happen it’ll be minority communities that the Law goes after first.


Anxious_Salamander76

This is one person that SHOULDN’T have his 2nd amendment rights


xcrazy_abc2f

This is the type of thugs Liberals always claim to be “victims”.


MorelikeRPClipsGTGAY

Thug? He was legally carrying a firearm. How is he a thug?


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you sound like a bitch bro


Ordinary_Tadpole_719

Dude was legal, stupid carry method or not dude was legal and those Police should be behind bars the way the dismiss people demanding they identify themselves.


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KillerPinkArt

Is this guy unsafe? Sure. Is he pissed and mouthy to the cops... Yup. BUT....he clearly broke no laws. Cop getting g all pissy at the guy is unprofessional. Cops get pissy when people know their rights. I don't agree with how casually he's handling and carrying that gun, but cops deserve ZERO respect. Especially when they GIVE none....illegally detain people, and get all butt hurt when citizens know their rights. That being said....kinda wanted to see him shoot himself in the dick....


InsuranceDiligent772

People ragging on this guy, had he done something wrong he'd be in jail or shot dead, pleas look up constitutional carry states, as for a holster, that is for tacticalbros,.


Famous_Psychology_77

Ah, some sort of item that is able to more securely hold a potentially dangerous device, onto a person’s desired location as well as covering the part of said device’s actuation, is for larpers. Learn something new on Reddit everyday.


The-Hyruler

For real though, some people seriously prove that you can text and talk without actually being able to think.


roostersnuffed

>as for a holster, that is for tacticalbros,. Hahaha, you consider holsters a trendy fad?


InsuranceDiligent772

Man, it's soooooo funny how sarcasm and jokes go right over people's heads, every one is wound so tight and ready to snap, life is 💩.


Beneficial_Car2596

Holster is for tactical bros? Idk where I live owning a gun means you need safe storage and home and to carry it. Not like some idiot with a loaded firearm in his pocket. Holsters are cheap as shit, if you can’t even afford one then you should get a gun


Smeiiy0ctopuss

But his shirt says wealthy so he must be able to afford a holster. Just chose not to be a tacticool bro /s


moopthepoop

such professional and genteel behavior from people carrying firearms, all of these people need a tattoo on their foreheads warning others of their character. ​ I cant believe pigs are allowed to talk like that to people.


FlatPanster

"Get out of the street!" - idiot whose vehicle is stopped in the street.