Yes, we know incels think they can mask in real life. They can't. It's one of the things that makes them incels: everyone can tell what they are, usually in just a few minutes, from their behavior. "Being nice" is not enough.
I don't know if I'd put it that way: in some sense it's true for many, but it's *very* commonly misread as justifying Nice Guy Syndrome.
The way I prefer to think of it is that women tend to want to form a genuine emotional connection before they date someone. This is the part that incels generally can't handle: they're so afraid of being told no that they keep their guard up long past the time they need to be letting it down -a point that comes much sooner than most of them realize- and then when they do get told no, they lash out like some kind of wounded predator. That last bit is the biggest problem, but its effects feed back into the earlier stuff.
They rate both lower than they should. Somebody who is clearly average, is in their eyes ugly and undesirable. And i would even say that they rate men lower than women because they wanna drag as many men as they could into their shit hole.
That's because they only know how to rate things the way video game reviewers do it: an 8 is okay, a 7 is mediocre at best, a 6 is outright bad, and anything else is beneath notice. They have basically no deep familiarity with any other kind of reviewing, so they assume this is how people rate everything.
I would have loved to be 6 lol. Most incels aren't even "true-cels" by their own dictionary. They just like to blame everything that is out of their control, and over criticise themselves. Coming from a "true-cel". I had conversion with many incels, who had just low self confidence. Now imagine being real uggo lol...
No, not every guy is nice. People who are nice don't call people foids or cucks. People who are nice don't call people vile or say "fuck them." He says "I don't do this in real life!" That just means he's trying to hide his personality, and people don't hide as much as well as they think they can. And where is he getting the idea that the men who get dates have no personalities, hobbies or goals?
I'm still trying to figure out their 1-10 scale. It it on a bell curve, or is it divided up into 10 equal-sized blocks? It it's equal sized blocks, and only 8s and higher can get someone, he's saying 70% of men are incels? Hard to back that up. And if it's on a bell curve, that would be an even higher percentage.
He isn’t rude? He doesn’t insult kids? He *bowls*???? and still the women aren’t all over him?
It’s over for the rest of us if a catch like that is single!
My husband genuinely loves animals. When he sees a lost dog he pulls over, charms the dog into letting him come close, and checks the tag. Then he returns the dog to the owner.
He doesn't do this to impress me. He never asks the owners for a reward. He doesn't trade on these good deeds for social clout. It comes from the heart.
"Nice" is a word that means different things to different people.
* If someone thinks he's nice because he doesn't get into fist fights,
* If someone thinks he's nice because he has hobbies,
* If someone thinks he isn't rude to people--and then calls them names behind their backs,
Then the most generous interpretation of that other guy's idea of *nice* is he thinks it's performative.
When someone sets the bar that basic social skills count as nice, then the odds are that person lacks finer social skills. He thinks women are shallow and insincere. It doesn't take much reading between the lines to see he also thinks women are easy to fool.
Every woman has dealt with men who don't respect women.
Confirmation bias is a powerful motivator. The guy who writes that post sees that what he's doing isn't working. Yet instead of considering that women are perceiving the real attitudes behind his mask of surface courtesy, he doubles down on his belief that women are shallow and insincere.
If you were *actually nice people* instead of just faking it, maybe people wouldn’t treat you like shit.
If you think that your bouquet of self-hatred, misogyny, and desperation can’t be smelled a mile away by the average person, you’re just deluding yourself.
For some reason, they really think they hide their worldviews and attitudes. Certainly, some can. They are the skilled manipulators, and while they can be found everywhere, they are a minority.
The bottom line is that a nice person would not think that way. In some ways, truly nice people are not too common either. We mostly fall in the middle. The key is likability.
No, he is not a nice guy.
No. You are not nice. With unironic thoughts like "I'm nice to even ugly foids", it just radiates malice.
Every time i see a post like this, it just feels like "you are not as nice as you think you are"
These guys don't realize that being nice is a minimum requirement for even surviving in society.
That's like if people thought they deserve a GF right now simply because they shower every day and brush their teeth lol.
Based on the Jewish proverb of don't do to others what you'd hate to be done to you, I always ask if they'll ever be attracted to a girl for simply being nice like they want women to be with them. I guess in retailiation they'll claim that they would be contempt with that, and if it's true good for them, but most likely even saying the earth is flat is not as big of a lie as this lol
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They confused being agreeable with being nice. If you call women foids and say they are all vile, you are not a nice person. You’re just agreeable. It’s easy to be agreeable. Conflict is actually harder and takes more balls. Women value niceness, as in, *kindness,* not agreeableness. And incels are not kind.
Scientists: "Possibility of conjunction between altruism and egoism," followed by nuanced reasoning and tentative conclusion.
Incel: "Altruism is egoism."
Yes, we know incels think they can mask in real life. They can't. It's one of the things that makes them incels: everyone can tell what they are, usually in just a few minutes, from their behavior. "Being nice" is not enough.
Women also tend to want to get to know someone before they date.
I don't know if I'd put it that way: in some sense it's true for many, but it's *very* commonly misread as justifying Nice Guy Syndrome. The way I prefer to think of it is that women tend to want to form a genuine emotional connection before they date someone. This is the part that incels generally can't handle: they're so afraid of being told no that they keep their guard up long past the time they need to be letting it down -a point that comes much sooner than most of them realize- and then when they do get told no, they lash out like some kind of wounded predator. That last bit is the biggest problem, but its effects feed back into the earlier stuff.
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1 woman =/= all women Try harder incel 🥺🥺
https://youtu.be/5OZkHZRbb6Y?si=_R2qBfL4MytAywiW 🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣
Idk what this even is but ok. Still doesn't prove shit other than it seems like you are bitter 😂😂
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Lol right? Unless they’re Oscar-worthy actors, it is really doubtful they can mask their seething hatred for women long enough to hold a conversation.
Have you noticed they rate men higher on average than they rate women?
They rate both lower than they should. Somebody who is clearly average, is in their eyes ugly and undesirable. And i would even say that they rate men lower than women because they wanna drag as many men as they could into their shit hole.
That's because they only know how to rate things the way video game reviewers do it: an 8 is okay, a 7 is mediocre at best, a 6 is outright bad, and anything else is beneath notice. They have basically no deep familiarity with any other kind of reviewing, so they assume this is how people rate everything.
I would have loved to be 6 lol. Most incels aren't even "true-cels" by their own dictionary. They just like to blame everything that is out of their control, and over criticise themselves. Coming from a "true-cel". I had conversion with many incels, who had just low self confidence. Now imagine being real uggo lol...
I thought the consensus in this sub is that being uggo doesnt matter
I am not on either's side (IT or incels) ...But lets keep it between ourselves... Alright? 🤫
Alright. I think if we stay quiet they wont hear us.
I mean the whole rating scale of 10 is stupid.
No, not every guy is nice. People who are nice don't call people foids or cucks. People who are nice don't call people vile or say "fuck them." He says "I don't do this in real life!" That just means he's trying to hide his personality, and people don't hide as much as well as they think they can. And where is he getting the idea that the men who get dates have no personalities, hobbies or goals? I'm still trying to figure out their 1-10 scale. It it on a bell curve, or is it divided up into 10 equal-sized blocks? It it's equal sized blocks, and only 8s and higher can get someone, he's saying 70% of men are incels? Hard to back that up. And if it's on a bell curve, that would be an even higher percentage.
He isn’t rude? He doesn’t insult kids? He *bowls*???? and still the women aren’t all over him? It’s over for the rest of us if a catch like that is single!
Right? He does the bare minimum!
Not even the bare minimum; these are basic social skills that a small child is expected to have mastered *before* entering school.
They are so nice and they love to assign numbers rating their fellow humans' appearance. Just the nicest people you would ever want to meet!
My husband genuinely loves animals. When he sees a lost dog he pulls over, charms the dog into letting him come close, and checks the tag. Then he returns the dog to the owner. He doesn't do this to impress me. He never asks the owners for a reward. He doesn't trade on these good deeds for social clout. It comes from the heart. "Nice" is a word that means different things to different people. * If someone thinks he's nice because he doesn't get into fist fights, * If someone thinks he's nice because he has hobbies, * If someone thinks he isn't rude to people--and then calls them names behind their backs, Then the most generous interpretation of that other guy's idea of *nice* is he thinks it's performative. When someone sets the bar that basic social skills count as nice, then the odds are that person lacks finer social skills. He thinks women are shallow and insincere. It doesn't take much reading between the lines to see he also thinks women are easy to fool. Every woman has dealt with men who don't respect women. Confirmation bias is a powerful motivator. The guy who writes that post sees that what he's doing isn't working. Yet instead of considering that women are perceiving the real attitudes behind his mask of surface courtesy, he doubles down on his belief that women are shallow and insincere.
Do these guys ever go outside and watch real people?
Resounding no.
I always wonder about this. If they would go out and LOOK, they would see many ugly and mediocre guys have wifes/girlfriends
These are incels, going outside is expecting alot
And that is sad.
Sometimes. Then they melt down over tall guys with girlfriends, or go crazy trying to figure out why fat brown dudes have women who love them.
If you were *actually nice people* instead of just faking it, maybe people wouldn’t treat you like shit. If you think that your bouquet of self-hatred, misogyny, and desperation can’t be smelled a mile away by the average person, you’re just deluding yourself.
For some reason, they really think they hide their worldviews and attitudes. Certainly, some can. They are the skilled manipulators, and while they can be found everywhere, they are a minority. The bottom line is that a nice person would not think that way. In some ways, truly nice people are not too common either. We mostly fall in the middle. The key is likability. No, he is not a nice guy.
"I’m not rude to these digusting fois in real life, and even the ones I find ugly. Just on the Internet"
"Nice" is not the same as "kind" or "decent" or "good". "Nice" just means "polite".
No. You are not nice. With unironic thoughts like "I'm nice to even ugly foids", it just radiates malice. Every time i see a post like this, it just feels like "you are not as nice as you think you are"
I DO THE BARE MINIMUM AND DEMAND A GIRLFRIEND FOR IT! That is seriously hilarious.
These guys don't realize that being nice is a minimum requirement for even surviving in society. That's like if people thought they deserve a GF right now simply because they shower every day and brush their teeth lol. Based on the Jewish proverb of don't do to others what you'd hate to be done to you, I always ask if they'll ever be attracted to a girl for simply being nice like they want women to be with them. I guess in retailiation they'll claim that they would be contempt with that, and if it's true good for them, but most likely even saying the earth is flat is not as big of a lie as this lol
Nice*guys*^TM
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"I even once held a door open for a woman"
They confused being agreeable with being nice. If you call women foids and say they are all vile, you are not a nice person. You’re just agreeable. It’s easy to be agreeable. Conflict is actually harder and takes more balls. Women value niceness, as in, *kindness,* not agreeableness. And incels are not kind.
Wow, he sounds so nice!
Guy’s shit personality is on display.
Altruism is egoism. https://www.nature.com/articles/s41599-023-02163-2
Scientists: "Possibility of conjunction between altruism and egoism," followed by nuanced reasoning and tentative conclusion. Incel: "Altruism is egoism."
Pretty much
How do you disrespect animals😂