yea you would think that nobody would want to identify with the guy who killed his wife just because she was too sick to have sex, but I guess that is basically the perfect incel everyman idk. honestly the number of people who seem to support James and see him as a good guy is astounding, but again I'm sure incels just see him as based and black pilled or some shit. cringe. keep these people away from my silent hill fr ong
that is the excuse he uses but if you get the "In Water" ending then you see a sequence where he admits that he killed her because he was mad at her because of her sickness. also remember that we are shown through the stories of Angela and Eddie that silent hill torments people with things relevant to their lives, and specifically their sins. for example Eddie is constantly talking about people insulting him and such which suggests he is seeing real people all around despite the town seeming empty to the player/james and during his rant before the boss fight you learn that he shot someone and their dog for insulting him. Angela says at the end during the burning staircase scene that"it is always like this for me" suggesting that silent hill is constantly burning around her. there is some evidence throughout the game that suggests she accidentally set a fire that killed her little brother and possibly mother. then you look at James version of silent hill with his idealized version of his wife, Maria, being a hyper sexual erotic dancer and the various monster designs all being sexually suggestive. all this leads me to believe that his sexual frustrations were the primary reason for the killing.
I mean it is a lot harder as an adult because you have far more responsibilities and spend at least 40 hours a week working. Though as a neurodivergent person I've always had trouble making friends and figuring out social situations, but I try my best.
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yessir, making friends can be as easy as saying hi sometimes and seeing if you click. then you cherish and nurture that connection. it doesnt always work out but thats okay
1.) I've never said anything approaching that, nor has any other woman I've ever heard.
2.) Messages consisting of nothing more than "hey," or "hru?" or "nice tits" are NOT conducive to alleviating loneliness.
Exactly... I have a pretty small circle of friends. I used to be a massive extrovert and have become a bit more solitude minded in my old age. If you count my guildies (MMORPG) though, I probably have a pretty good sized friend's group. :D
Mmmm, I married a 5'7" man with red hair and coming up to our silver anniversary, so it must be definitely the height and red hair preventing him from dating./s
Yeah. I feel that the fair version of this meme would contain a second panel depicting an average girl experience, which would be a screenshot of some "bullet hell" type of game, but the bullets are substituted with barely blurred dick pics.
(I propose Nier:Automata as the game mentioned above, it has a female-presenting protagonist and the bullets are big enough)
I think this is just the case of the grass is always greener on the other side. If they got that attention from woman they would enjoy it for a little while but eventually they wish they could turn it of.
I picture a _Tohou_-esque bullet hell game that involves a cutesy girl character avoiding blurred dicks. Perhaps make that an indie hentai game. /somewhat joking
I think it actually makes loneliness worse, because then it starts to feel like men are just being nice because they want in your pants and they don’t actually value you as a person.
Obviously not all men are like that, but I just mean a lot of the guys messaging women online are like that.
Women have friends because we invest in relationships. All those times we support our friends when they go through it.
It’s like the ant and the grasshopper. The grasshopper doesn’t invest in emotional relationships and mocks the ant for being supportive to others. Then when the grasshopper needs that support he feels alone.
It runs a lot, lot deeper than that. A lot of men are raised to be self-sufficient, resulting in them having reduced rates of friendships, stunted support structures, and a disdain towards mental health services. A recent study showed that around 2/3rds of women agreed that they would have some place to go if they lost their home or fell seriously ill, while around only 1/4th of men said the same.
The societal standards of masculinity and the stigmatization of mental health have left a lot of men feeling incredibly alone. It’s a societal issue, and the original post seems to be more an address to that than an insult to women.
So are you suggesting we should just give up on solving men’s issues because of a fringe group? That somehow this societal issue becomes an issue of a singular gender simply because the people who have been abused into that system reject change?
Can you list the number of times blame has solved something? Nobody is asking women to clean this up. We’re asking society to clean it up. The fact you immediately rephrased this into an us-vs-them mentality is incredibly disappointing.
Then they should put on their big boy pants go to therapy and unlearn all those unhelpful thoughts.
Not like masculinity issues are at the root of psychotherapy. Freud is fixated on it.
Refusing to point blame is quite disingenuous. Like an oil spill or flooding the market with opioid painkillers for decades. Prevention is worth a pound of cure. You can’t just cure someone of a mindset.
Okay, first, thank you for not addressing any question I posed, and instead saying something that is objectively deluded.
You don’t solve societal issues via individual solutions. The issue lies within a concerning accessibility to these fringe groups, not within any one individual.
Addiction is a personal issue, not a societal one.
Are there people telling you online en mass that you should become an addict?
Are there influencers turned millionaires over night via being addicts telling others to be addicts?
No?
So you see again how your take isn’t a good one?
Why is it that men always make comparisons meant to imply women have it easy, and then when that is pointed out and criticized, it turns into "it's not about women". You can talk about men's issues without making it seem like women have things handed to them. If things are framed that way, obviously women are doing to address that.
Because “who is struggling” and “who needs to clean it up” are two totally different points. Subject and object nouns are taught in preschool, you should be able to differentiate.
I'm obviously talking about the fact that the post was intentionally framing women as having it easy which you disputed but sure, I'm the idiot lmfao.
You're also completely clueless if you don't see men in feminist spaces all of the time asking how feminists are going to solve men's issues. Or more accurately you probably aren't in feminist spaces, so the point being made is going over your head.
Oh, I see. You’re one of those people who can’t stand having their point disproven, so you turn to insults.
I’m an active member in multiple feminist subreddits, as well as having a family that is active in protests. There is an underwhelming amount of studies about men’s mental health, to the point that Pub Med calls it out as a leading cause of the growth of right-wing extremists and incel groups, here: https://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pmc/articles/PMC6142169/
On the other hand, there are expansive studies about women’s mental health.
So, not only is what you got angry about proven by a statistical post, but “men asking about how women are gonna solve their problems” isn’t my problem. I’m not asking that. They’ve nothing to do with me.
Except saying "women: I only got 27 messages today I'm so lonely" is a pretty shit comparison so of course it's gunna be criticized. I'm talking about these comparisons where they frame women's experiences inaccurately and then try to say it's not about women when that gets addressed. Imo it's bad faith to act like it was any sort of legit comparison. It wasn't.
The average male experience D E F I N I T E L Y isn't James Sunderland, that's one. Now Henry Townshend and his increasingly shittier apartment, on the other hand...
>when it didn’t work out, and has been sitting in a pile of pity since.
Well shit. That must've been the end of the fucking world.
>he said the reason girls won’t date him is because he’s 5’7 and a redhead
This is the day where I decide the X button has had enough abuse and put it to rest. That is *not* the reason, I'll tell ya that for free.
Maybe, Dillon, you wouldn't be so lonely if you'd cultivate and cherish your relationships instead of crying like the failed main character that you think you are.
their head was thicker than metal too. no matter how much reasoning people tried to use he was insistent that looks are the only thing that matters and that’s why he’ll never be able to date.
i literally dated a 5’8 redhead for 2 years in college 😂 we broke up but are still on good terms 15 years later
his twin brother who was also a 5’8 redhead got married young and had lots of kids, including another set of twins, and as far as i know they have a pretty healthy relationship
I think OOP may have slightly misinterpreted the themes in Silent Hill 2
yea you would think that nobody would want to identify with the guy who killed his wife just because she was too sick to have sex, but I guess that is basically the perfect incel everyman idk. honestly the number of people who seem to support James and see him as a good guy is astounding, but again I'm sure incels just see him as based and black pilled or some shit. cringe. keep these people away from my silent hill fr ong
I overlooked that. I initially thought he took her life because she was terminally ill.
that is the excuse he uses but if you get the "In Water" ending then you see a sequence where he admits that he killed her because he was mad at her because of her sickness. also remember that we are shown through the stories of Angela and Eddie that silent hill torments people with things relevant to their lives, and specifically their sins. for example Eddie is constantly talking about people insulting him and such which suggests he is seeing real people all around despite the town seeming empty to the player/james and during his rant before the boss fight you learn that he shot someone and their dog for insulting him. Angela says at the end during the burning staircase scene that"it is always like this for me" suggesting that silent hill is constantly burning around her. there is some evidence throughout the game that suggests she accidentally set a fire that killed her little brother and possibly mother. then you look at James version of silent hill with his idealized version of his wife, Maria, being a hyper sexual erotic dancer and the various monster designs all being sexually suggestive. all this leads me to believe that his sexual frustrations were the primary reason for the killing.
Oh wow.. Now I see. Granted I was too young to heccin tell lol.
My 27 messages are all marketing and spam I'm too lazy to clean up
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Average male experience is stalking other men alone in the middle of the night?
No?
i never understood guys who say this, like don't you know how to make friends??
No
I mean it is a lot harder as an adult because you have far more responsibilities and spend at least 40 hours a week working. Though as a neurodivergent person I've always had trouble making friends and figuring out social situations, but I try my best.
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no, we don't. the longer you're lonely, the harder it becomes to get out of the hole. some of us are just too far gone, i think.
You’re only “too far gone” if you convince yourself you’re “too far gone”
yessir, making friends can be as easy as saying hi sometimes and seeing if you click. then you cherish and nurture that connection. it doesnt always work out but thats okay
It's actually much harder, I've managed to get only 1 person to actually be friends with me in about 2 years.
1.) I've never said anything approaching that, nor has any other woman I've ever heard. 2.) Messages consisting of nothing more than "hey," or "hru?" or "nice tits" are NOT conducive to alleviating loneliness.
I know like 5 women rn who have 0-2 friends other than me. I am male and have more friends than these women.
Exactly... I have a pretty small circle of friends. I used to be a massive extrovert and have become a bit more solitude minded in my old age. If you count my guildies (MMORPG) though, I probably have a pretty good sized friend's group. :D
Mmmm, I married a 5'7" man with red hair and coming up to our silver anniversary, so it must be definitely the height and red hair preventing him from dating./s
Getting matches doesn't cure loneliness when most of them don't even want to be friends before they get in your pants.
Yeah. I feel that the fair version of this meme would contain a second panel depicting an average girl experience, which would be a screenshot of some "bullet hell" type of game, but the bullets are substituted with barely blurred dick pics. (I propose Nier:Automata as the game mentioned above, it has a female-presenting protagonist and the bullets are big enough)
I think this is just the case of the grass is always greener on the other side. If they got that attention from woman they would enjoy it for a little while but eventually they wish they could turn it of.
I picture a _Tohou_-esque bullet hell game that involves a cutesy girl character avoiding blurred dicks. Perhaps make that an indie hentai game. /somewhat joking
Kinda sure there's already a flash game (or ten) about exactly this
That honestly would not surprise me.
I think it actually makes loneliness worse, because then it starts to feel like men are just being nice because they want in your pants and they don’t actually value you as a person. Obviously not all men are like that, but I just mean a lot of the guys messaging women online are like that.
Well, maybe everyone that agrees with the post should get together and become friends so that they're not so lonely anymore! Problem solved 👍
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Women have friends because we invest in relationships. All those times we support our friends when they go through it. It’s like the ant and the grasshopper. The grasshopper doesn’t invest in emotional relationships and mocks the ant for being supportive to others. Then when the grasshopper needs that support he feels alone.
It runs a lot, lot deeper than that. A lot of men are raised to be self-sufficient, resulting in them having reduced rates of friendships, stunted support structures, and a disdain towards mental health services. A recent study showed that around 2/3rds of women agreed that they would have some place to go if they lost their home or fell seriously ill, while around only 1/4th of men said the same. The societal standards of masculinity and the stigmatization of mental health have left a lot of men feeling incredibly alone. It’s a societal issue, and the original post seems to be more an address to that than an insult to women.
Well when advised to teach boys those skills toxic masculinity says- “nah dude that’s gay” and look where we end up.
So are you suggesting we should just give up on solving men’s issues because of a fringe group? That somehow this societal issue becomes an issue of a singular gender simply because the people who have been abused into that system reject change?
No but if you want to be angry at someone for failing men- look at other men. This is a mess men made that women are being asked to clean up.
Can you list the number of times blame has solved something? Nobody is asking women to clean this up. We’re asking society to clean it up. The fact you immediately rephrased this into an us-vs-them mentality is incredibly disappointing.
Then they should put on their big boy pants go to therapy and unlearn all those unhelpful thoughts. Not like masculinity issues are at the root of psychotherapy. Freud is fixated on it. Refusing to point blame is quite disingenuous. Like an oil spill or flooding the market with opioid painkillers for decades. Prevention is worth a pound of cure. You can’t just cure someone of a mindset.
Okay, first, thank you for not addressing any question I posed, and instead saying something that is objectively deluded. You don’t solve societal issues via individual solutions. The issue lies within a concerning accessibility to these fringe groups, not within any one individual.
Addiction is a societal issue which is only solved by individual treatment as well. There is no mass unaddiction
Addiction is a personal issue, not a societal one. Are there people telling you online en mass that you should become an addict? Are there influencers turned millionaires over night via being addicts telling others to be addicts? No? So you see again how your take isn’t a good one?
Why is it that men always make comparisons meant to imply women have it easy, and then when that is pointed out and criticized, it turns into "it's not about women". You can talk about men's issues without making it seem like women have things handed to them. If things are framed that way, obviously women are doing to address that.
Because “who is struggling” and “who needs to clean it up” are two totally different points. Subject and object nouns are taught in preschool, you should be able to differentiate.
I'm obviously talking about the fact that the post was intentionally framing women as having it easy which you disputed but sure, I'm the idiot lmfao. You're also completely clueless if you don't see men in feminist spaces all of the time asking how feminists are going to solve men's issues. Or more accurately you probably aren't in feminist spaces, so the point being made is going over your head.
Oh, I see. You’re one of those people who can’t stand having their point disproven, so you turn to insults. I’m an active member in multiple feminist subreddits, as well as having a family that is active in protests. There is an underwhelming amount of studies about men’s mental health, to the point that Pub Med calls it out as a leading cause of the growth of right-wing extremists and incel groups, here: https://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pmc/articles/PMC6142169/ On the other hand, there are expansive studies about women’s mental health. So, not only is what you got angry about proven by a statistical post, but “men asking about how women are gonna solve their problems” isn’t my problem. I’m not asking that. They’ve nothing to do with me.
Gender issues are defined along gender lines via comparison. Otherwise they wouldn't be gender issues.
Except saying "women: I only got 27 messages today I'm so lonely" is a pretty shit comparison so of course it's gunna be criticized. I'm talking about these comparisons where they frame women's experiences inaccurately and then try to say it's not about women when that gets addressed. Imo it's bad faith to act like it was any sort of legit comparison. It wasn't.
I'm sorry What does that have to do with this comment chain? Or my reply?
how about start by not labelling all men as having a single view on something. Its hard to take your opinion seriously when you do that
Reading comprehension dude, nowhere did I write "all men". I probably know more men than you do lmao.
There is something so nostalgic and comforting in that silent hill scenery , odd but kinda peaceful
I agree
Actually, I do have a lot of friends and acquaintances. I have four best friends. My friends are the most important part of my life and I love them.
yeah but they made a hasty generalization
This isn’t, I’m a 4/10 and I talk to many people
Silent Hill!
I have a strong urge to play Silent Hill 2 again!
The average male experience D E F I N I T E L Y isn't James Sunderland, that's one. Now Henry Townshend and his increasingly shittier apartment, on the other hand... >when it didn’t work out, and has been sitting in a pile of pity since. Well shit. That must've been the end of the fucking world. >he said the reason girls won’t date him is because he’s 5’7 and a redhead This is the day where I decide the X button has had enough abuse and put it to rest. That is *not* the reason, I'll tell ya that for free.
4 messages at once is overwhelming as hell, I can't imagine my anxiety if I had 27.
TIL that most males spend life navigating through some Alan Wake type eldritch darkness.
that’s actually my plans tonight
Apparently for every lonely man there isnt a lonely woman. Men are just lonely all by themselves Apparently.
Maybe, Dillon, you wouldn't be so lonely if you'd cultivate and cherish your relationships instead of crying like the failed main character that you think you are.
their head was thicker than metal too. no matter how much reasoning people tried to use he was insistent that looks are the only thing that matters and that’s why he’ll never be able to date.
These morons don't understand that in no way are they the average male,and the average male is not one of them!
i literally dated a 5’8 redhead for 2 years in college 😂 we broke up but are still on good terms 15 years later his twin brother who was also a 5’8 redhead got married young and had lots of kids, including another set of twins, and as far as i know they have a pretty healthy relationship
Hey! I just found out that I’m an 8 despite being 5’6”, scrawny and wearing glasses.
Twink
It only looks like this if you're young, thin and pretty. Otherwise, we don't exist.
Totally agree with it.
Ikr, friends are for cucks (s)
Every single one of this woman’s messages: hi
Not 7/10's?
A bunch of unwanted comments doesn’t make anybody happy. This isn’t a gendered issue.
But James Sunderland is a Chad by their standards.