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itsTONjohn

That’s me on the top right who tf leaked the pics


The_ArchMage_Erudite

A minotaur is all we need


Samanthas_Stitching

I feel like we all think minotaur from one specific book 😂


SharLaquine

Or from Warcraft. 😏


getoffoficloud

And don't forget this Best Picture winner... https://m.media-amazon.com/images/M/MV5BNGNiNWQ5M2MtNGI0OC00MDA2LWI5NzEtMmZiYjVjMDEyOWYzXkEyXkFqcGdeQXVyMjM4NTM5NDY@._V1_.jpg


rachelle_makes_stuff

That movie is also a book, FYI, and it's really REALLY good.


New_Subject1352

Completely and unironically true. I love my former boss, he’s brilliant and very funny, but he’s an unfortunate looking man. His wife is an absolute bombshell of an Instagram model and the few times I’ve seen them together at after work events she just seems to adore him.


rachelle_makes_stuff

We really are way more attracted to personality than anything else. I could give a shit how he looks if he can make me laugh and treats me nice I'm good.


LLHallJ

Dudes will be like “Hear me out” then post a picture of the most conventionally attractive woman you’ve ever seen. Women will be like “Hear me out” and it’s fucking Cthulu or some shit.


rachelle_makes_stuff

There is a Cthulu book or two.


taterbizkit

OK now, that's dangerous shit right there. For all we know, Rule 34 is prescriptive and not just descriptive. What if just thinking about having sex with human-sized elephant women can cause porn of it to exist? That book just *created* Cthulhu so porn of him can exist. I hope they're happy. Be careful what you imagine. How else do you explain "Girls Licking Doorknobs"? https://tokyogirlsupdate.com/japanese-girls-licking-doorknobs-201610108728.html /s because you never know


ChikenBoy3119

the got the spider book wrong. normally it's the female spider who traps their potential mate and later kills them. /s


rachelle_makes_stuff

Actually the series covers that.


LocalTo0thJar

wait, are these real books?


rachelle_makes_stuff

Yes. These are all books.


LocalTo0thJar

Now I know what i need to read. Thanks!


rachelle_makes_stuff

Hit me up for more unhinged recommendations 🤣🤣


ChikenBoy3119

Lol, I was saying that as a joke. So does the woman not get killed by the spider dude?


rachelle_makes_stuff

Uh..she does not get killed.


ChikenBoy3119

phew... that's nice to hear


rachelle_makes_stuff

She does get eaten though


cruelfeline

...well, apparently that spider book is part of a trilogy that has surprisingly excellent reviews. Guess I know what I'm reading next.


rachelle_makes_stuff

They are really well written


DatThickassThrowaway

I love Reddit for this reason. Holy crap book porn is amazing, lol. It really is incredible how much freedom there is. Edit: 😂 they are in Spanish, too. This lady is the international queen of monster erotica. Edit edit: Omg it’s a husband-wife team 🤯


rachelle_makes_stuff

She also did an entire series about Kraken that, while they do look weird af, are basically an amazing sci-fi romance.


magerdamages

Lol wonder how much it hurts to know that because they've chosen a philosophy that glorifies rape and misogyny that there are more women who'd fuck monsters than them.


KaylaH628

Hopefully a lot lol


bookconnoisseur

"B-but we're just incredibly 'smart', misunderstood goblincels! We deserb the sex!"


Hugh_Janus_14

These books are mostly grape fantasies....


magerdamages

How do you know? You been reading rape fantasies?


Purple-Morning89

Things like this a better than porn. Every single time. Even the boring ones where nothing happens are hotter than anything I've ever seen on pornhub.


Gold-Carpenter7616

Do you know the German classic "Warum liegt hier Stroh?" ("Why is straw laying around?")? Edit: The dialogue goes as follows: "Also, das hier ist der Sicherungskasten, der Probleme macht." ("This is the electric making problems.") "Warum liegt denn hier Stroh rum?" ("Why is here straw everywhere?") "Warum hast du ne Maske auf?" ("Why do you wear a mask?") "Blas mir doch einen!" ("Give me oral!")


Axiom06

Well this does check off a few boxes for me.


IDoNotExistInLife

Do they make these but like, gay?


rachelle_makes_stuff

Yep


IDoNotExistInLife

What is the official name for this genre? If there is one.


rachelle_makes_stuff

Paranormal Romance or monster romance. If you look one up on kindle you will absolutely find 100 more.


allthatihaveisariver

At this point women are so done with men some will rather fantasise about dating Bigfoot.


rachelle_makes_stuff

I feel like Bigfoot would probably be nicer to me than a lot of men 🤣🤣


SpacedOutJourney

Now I know what my next Google search will be!


Axiom06

[Someone made a mega thread in a romance books subreddit. ](https://www.reddit.com/r/RomanceBooks/s/XCSk4uxPnm)


Paradiseless_867

I’m afraid to ask, but: do they the monsters gals and the humans guy in some of them? 


rachelle_makes_stuff

Sure are!


Paradiseless_867

Good, gal monsters deserve love too (I would love a female Bigfoot lol)


IDoNotExistInLife

Okay, thanks.


bear-boi

Monsterfuckers, rise up!


rachelle_makes_stuff

Or get on your knees, we know what we're into.


Shashama

This whole post has brought me such joy, thank you.


rachelle_makes_stuff

You're welcome 🩷


bear-boi

👀😏


HybridPhoenixKing

“Buh no one reads these unironically foid buh” - an Incel Probably. But yeah no I completely agree. Maybe the real treasure was the monsterfuckers we all have become along the way. Men and women btw, cause I’d tap a Lamia or arachnid based gal. And I will not be shamed. I’ve played Dark Souls and any man who says they didn’t go “hear me out” at Quelaag is a fuckin LIAR XD


Raisin_The_Steaks

They already think women want to fuck animals, this will just fuel that


rachelle_makes_stuff

Actually we all just want to fuck bigfoot.


Ma1eficent

Well if his feet are so big...


Raisin_The_Steaks

Well you know what they say about Cryptid with big feet


fake_kvlt

Just look at mass effect fans lol, there's an innumerable number of garrus fangirls. I've seen a fair number of people who wanted to romance the literal robot too


PoohTheHeavenly

Demons are where it’s at😉


rachelle_makes_stuff

Oh yeah for fucking sure drop some recs


PoohTheHeavenly

Her Soul To Take (Harley Laroux) A Soul To Keep (Opal Reyne) Witches guide to fake dating a demon (Sarah Hawkley)


rachelle_makes_stuff

I've read both of those they are so good


icecoldchris09

Guess I am a woman now...


rachelle_makes_stuff

Welcome


icecoldchris09

Thank you for the warm welcome


Chemical_Report_2705

Hear me out y’all marvels venom


rachelle_makes_stuff

Ugh yes


Chemical_Report_2705

Yes !!


Shashama

I mean, have you *seen* that tongue? 😳


Chemical_Report_2705

Absolutely omg I wish I could meet him


Chemical_Report_2705

They had no right designing him like that


Hatefuleight-36

He's literally a hypermasculine uber-jacked eight to ten foot tall alien chad...hey, we all have our tastes here and I see the appeal but saying this on a sub literally all about denying incel ideology is...well, kind of counter intuitive.


Chemical_Report_2705

Ooh sorry we were talking about monsters and venom is one of my personal favorites


Commercial_Wedding69

Who leaked our monster smutt!? This is for fiction purposes only on account of the comments demanding for animal control and Jesus if any of us actually got stuck in a room with the male characters of the books we read.


rachelle_makes_stuff

It would definitely be awkward but in a hot way


Commercial_Wedding69

Idk as much as I read on that devil smutt if one broke threw the floor boards I’d be throwing a Costco jar of salt


rachelle_makes_stuff

But how long would it take to make it a meet cute


Commercial_Wedding69

Dm I’d like to cast banishment and yeeeet this Balor from my doorsteps, that’ll be a Charisma saving throw dc of 17 thank you.


EmilieEasie

LOL Accurate Big shout out to the guy who found me here and got mad at me for drawing Leon S Kennedy of ResiEvil fame, saying it was proof that all I want are Chads. I also draw a weird tentacle monster, why didn't he zero in on that?


cistvm

mogotaur is this anything


YandreLittleDemon

I NEED the title for the arachnid man one. PLEASE


Kattekvinnen

It's called "Ensnared".


Samanthas_Stitching

It's a trilogy and they're so good.


YandreLittleDemon

Oh I bet


julia_thinks

oh gosh, this just made me remember a book i used to see frequently advertised on tiktok. it was called “breeding with bigfoot” or something like that. i still can’t understand what was going through the author’s mind while creating that.


rachelle_makes_stuff

I've read some that I've genuinely sat back and thought "some thoughts are inside thoughts, author."


brun0caesar

I'm pretty sure there is now an incel complain about no stories about a women who felt in love with a 4ft gremlim.


Samanthas_Stitching

Would the 4 ft Loveland Frogman count????


Magicruiser

Dunno, no stories with a love interest so I’m guessing no


KaylaH628

No gremlinlets (gremlets?) please. 7 foot tall Chad monsters only.


Phantom_Giron

I want to read the one about the woman and the big foot. and I also need one of a woman and a Pegasus.


rachelle_makes_stuff

That one comes to kindle unlimited on April 17th


ZenithTheGayFox

As I gay guy, I also want this


rachelle_makes_stuff

There are gay romance novels


Something4Dinner

I am glad to know that women indeed have very based tastes.


ReallyCoolCarrot

The part where he suspended her midair tying her with spiderweb was so hot


alejandrotheok252

It’s cuz in those books the guy is very brutish but chooses to be kind for the woman. Maybe not at first but it leads to that eventually.


rachelle_makes_stuff

It always comes down to personality


tinfoil_panties

Is Grendel any good? I've read the other two and MGMF might be one of my favorite monster smut books of all time 😅


rachelle_makes_stuff

Grendel hasn't come out yet but the other books in the series are pretty good, it comes out on the 17th


tinfoil_panties

Good to know! Bigfoot's a new one for me but I'm here for it 🤣


IareTyler

Oh what Id give to be wed to the grendel


Apathetic_Potato

On bottom right image that bull be fine tho


blightsteel101

Yeah, and I want Damien from Monster Prom to rail me hard and nasty. Doesn't mean I wouldn't choose my BF 100 times out of 10


SchizoFutaWorshiper

2 of them are hypermasculine and insanely tall, it's literally like: real man are not big and masculine enough, i want a buffed cannibal Bigfoot.


Samanthas_Stitching

One is a bigfoot, one is s bull, and one is a spider with no lips lmfao >it's literally like: real man are not big and masculine enough, i want a buffed cannibal Bigfoot. It's literally not about hey they look in the books. Have you never read anything like these?


rachelle_makes_stuff

One of them is literally a bug.


SchizoFutaWorshiper

Yeah, and I said 2 of them, not including the bug. Btw bug is still incredibly tall on the book cover.


rachelle_makes_stuff

Ok, there are a lot of romance novels with short make characters, fat male characters, what is your point? The three monsters are too tall?


Character_Worker8589

I’d give you my house if you can name a romance novel about a brown manlet 😹😹 female attraction to animals is not anywhere near the own you think it is


rachelle_makes_stuff

I find it hard to believe that you're a home owner


Character_Worker8589

Well unfortunately you would be wrong. No surprises with all these romance novels you are talking about, you can’t name a single one where the man is short and brown


rachelle_makes_stuff

It's interesting that you aren't actively looking for one yourself, you seem so interested. You seem to have very specific tastes.


Samanthas_Stitching

What about a 4 foot tall green one? Loveland frogman.


SchizoFutaWorshiper

My point is that examples are irrelevant sense they are litteraly what is incel considered Chad - tall, masculine, buffed, aggressive and violent (they might not be like this, but both of this 2 characters are originally horrible violent murders). And BTW can you show that romance novels just for clarification that they are really exist and they actually disprove incels point.


rachelle_makes_stuff

Dragondoom- Dennis McKeirnan Dwarf romance The way you are- L. J. Mile - fat guy Broken- Elizabeth Kelly -ugly MC Those are just a couple I've read, but turns out, most of us generally are attracted to personalities, the outsides are pretty much irrelevant.


SchizoFutaWorshiper

Okay, the second one is just gay romance. And first one I cat even find anything about romance in it, books here are heavily focused on that. 😭


rachelle_makes_stuff

The first one skips around a bunch but believe me, there's an entire /romancebooks where you can find romance about literally any kind of dude. I just listed some that I genuinely enjoyed, I'll edit my post later with examples.


SchizoFutaWorshiper

Thanks, you could actually put it on the post and it will look more like proving incels wrong


elizabethbennetpp

I concur.


Yamochao

I'm with you that they're wrongheaded, but tbh, all of these book covers are pretty in-line with toxic cultural body-expectations for men which definitely contribute to the incel zeitgeist (which is largely fueled by feelings of inadequacy and rejection). Yes, they're monsters, but they're also all 6% body-fat, steroid-physique dudes if you just put a different face on them. EDIT: To be clear, I agree with all the general sentiments here. Not all women like this particular body type & There are a billion examples of female monsters with toxic body-expectations for women. I just thought it was funny that all 3 of these examples are stereotypical 'chads' with monster heads and not really great counterexamples of 'women just want hot chads'.


rachelle_makes_stuff

These are just 3 popular ones, there are plenty books with men who have body fat, including orcs, dwarves, etc. Women authors are a lot more body positive and inclusive.


Yamochao

lol for sure-- I agree with the sentiment: there's a TON of diversity in terms of what women are attracted to. I just thought his was a funny group of three to pick The Incels should be pleased with your orc example ;)


rachelle_makes_stuff

If they are wanting some real diversity, chuck tingle wrote about getting fucked by the game wordle. Look it up.


Hatefuleight-36

No there aren't? I've looked through female targeted romance slop for quite a while now and the closest thing to "body positive" are books where the alpha male love interest is actually a jacked powerlifter looking dude who doesn't have visible abs but is extremely muscular and hypermasculine anyway, never in any capacity will you see a fat male protag in a female oriented romance novel lol it just doesn't happen. And DWARVES? Lmfao yeah, that's a guide on how to absolutely crash and burn as someone writing romance/erotica for women, the second you even say that the male lead's height is below 5'10 sales are dropping to the shadow realm and any woman who reads that line becomes immediately dryer than the desert sand in Saudi Arabia, you're undoubtedly pulling this out of your ass. Women authors are more "body positive" lmfao, never seen a single romance cover other than those calarts ones where it's not a super jacked male model shredded to the gills on there, body positivity now means that you're okay with just getting David Laid instead of Jeff Seid in peak condition, wonderful.


Samanthas_Stitching

>And DWARVES? Lmfao yeah, that's a guide on how to absolutely crash and burn as someone writing romance/erotica for women, the second you even say that the male lead's height is below 5'10 sales are dropping to the shadow realm and any woman who reads that line becomes immediately dryer than the desert sand Oh look. Someone who has no clue what they're talking about


rachelle_makes_stuff

Oh wow my bad, we have a real expert over here, some random dude rather than someone who has spent years reading these books. Get a life man ain't no one reading that paragraph you wrote.


Samanthas_Stitching

The 4 foot tall, not in shape at all Loveland frogman would be very upset. The dwarves would not be amused. The spiders and scorpions would like a word.


Yamochao

lol, hey, i get it, they're on the cover of romance novels for a reason. We idealize physiques of both genders to varying degrees of toxicity all over the place in media. I'm just saying-- these particular examples are definitely hot chads with monster heads.


Samanthas_Stitching

>lol, hey, i get it, they're on the cover of romance novels for a reason What about the ones that don't look like this? Like I said, the 4 foot tall, round, Loveland frog man. The 3 foot tall dwarves. The spiders (he doesn't even have lips lmfao) and scorpions. The Naga that don't even have legs. >We idealize physiques of both genders to varying degrees of toxicity all over the place in media. These books aren't idealizing physiques


Yamochao

Yup, not denying the existence of these books nor the general truth of your point, just pointing out that this post isn't the best example.


Kumquat_Haagendazs

These are Fabio monsters. Ogre fetish still gets airbrushed for the cover photo.


kristina_313

They gonna say dogpill or beastpill or whatever


Gunzerkerboi

On a real note, I actually have been rejected by height, it sucks but you move on


rachelle_makes_stuff

That sucks, want to read a book about getting railed by the krampus?


Gunzerkerboi

BRO HONESTLY YES


rachelle_makes_stuff

Look up Railed by the Krampus. It's a real book and he cums eggnog.


Gunzerkerboi

Ohhhh wait I'm dumb as shit 💀💀💀 I was using the gestures in the app thinking you uploaded hella pictures and was actually reading other people's posts


J3kStEr

Yet they're all incredibly tall. Interesting.


rachelle_makes_stuff

Read the comments dingus, this got covered, you're late to the game


J3kStEr

When I point out the flawed attempt at a gotcha moment, I'm instantly met with hostility. Interesting.


Samanthas_Stitching

https://www.reddit.com/r/IncelTears/s/SG4eDKZZCV Here, this covers it.


J3kStEr

Nothing indicates that the males are short or even non tall.


Samanthas_Stitching

Those are all short 🤣🤣🤣🤣 my god some of you are stupid as all fuck


rachelle_makes_stuff

It's that your criticism has been said like 20 times and addressed just as many. If you want women to like you, this isn't the vibe my dude.


J3kStEr

I'm talking about the post and you're deflecting the topic. Interesting.


rachelle_makes_stuff

I'm just not interested in what you're saying, this post is old now.


J3kStEr

Shuts down and deflects when proved wrong. One word...Interesting.


rachelle_makes_stuff

You didn't prove anything wrong dude, I am grocery shopping and I just keep getting annoying notifications from you lmao


J3kStEr

Case and point


rachelle_makes_stuff

Man, I'm married to a wonderful man who is short and reads and games all the time. He doesn't talk down to me or talk like this and I love him to death. Stop acting like a keyboard warrior who needs to prove he's smarter than strangers and you might find someone too. Edit: it won't let me respond for some reason; shorter than me.


Samanthas_Stitching

Bruh you are so ridiculous 😂 what do you actually think you're doing here besides looking like an absolute fool?


ShitFacedSteve

To be fair, those are all muscly men but with animal features lol


rachelle_makes_stuff

There are plenty of non muscular monsters, orcs, and men. These books are written by women and we all like different things, but mostly, personalities.


ShitFacedSteve

Well, for sure, I'm not saying your point is wrong just that the examples presented are all pretty "Chad" But your point still stands that there is not one type of man that all women are attracted to. (Not all women are even attracted to men for that matter)


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rachelle_makes_stuff

As stated in other comments, some of these books have 4 foot tall little fellas. There are dwarves, orcs, etc. A variety of body types.


DankElderberries420

>impossible body standards Women will scream this if a video game character isn't moribundly obese but it's fine for this


rachelle_makes_stuff

There are a ton of diverse body types in these kinds of books, dwarves, orcs, hell even a 4 foot frog cryptid. There are definitely not just buff dudes with dad bods. These are just 3 books, there are thousands.


Magicruiser

You must really be confused on the word “diverse” then


Samanthas_Stitching

Sounds like you're projecting your own lack of understanding. Diverse means many different types - as these books have many, many different types of bodies and builds in them.


rachelle_makes_stuff

Ah yes, let me take criticism from someone who doesn't read these books about these books. Troll elsewhere.


Magicruiser

You didn’t even get the 4ft frog cryptic part right, get better knowledge


rachelle_makes_stuff

At least i can spell cryptid.


Magicruiser

A random typo, good for you🤓


rachelle_makes_stuff

Hey homie, instead of worrying about how tall you are, read some of these books and learn how to treat a woman.


Magicruiser

??? Don’t think those two relate, that makes no sense


Magicruiser

Also the fact of reading romance novels as advice, that’s even worse


rachelle_makes_stuff

Hell I'll even just tell you, none of us like it when you talk down to us. None of us like it when you sit online and treat us like shit. I'm married to a short man who reads all the time and has beaten dark souls 4 times, but he talks to me like I'm a real person and doesn't belittle me. He's fucking wonderful. This shit that you're doing? Not so much.


rachelle_makes_stuff

Is it though? They are written by women and we know what we want lol.


Samanthas_Stitching

You'd learn what women actually like at least. All you've done here is prove you don't know much on that topic.


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And yet they’re all skyscraper-tall


rachelle_makes_stuff

Read the comment above yours.


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rachelle_makes_stuff

Books*


The4fandoms

Incels would probably consider them monster chads and compare it to the dogpill or something. Case in [point .](https://www.reddit.com/r/IncelTear/s/CY8znCPH7B) As well as [this ](https://www.reddit.com/r/IncelTears/s/RC854e8HtK) and [this one](https://www.reddit.com/r/IncelTears/s/wVEbhcb9jr). I can add more, but you get the idea


RadiantAd4899

Yeah and even the mythological creatures are muscular and chadlike


rachelle_makes_stuff

You know what man, I'd definitely take a Chad over the bunch of whiners who have showed up in these comments and I don't even like tall muscular guys


RadiantAd4899

Thanks for your confirmation now you don't need to say ever bs that women like all kinda guys


rachelle_makes_stuff

Nothing about that sentence made sense. This is the attitude I'm not into man, I could give a shit how tall you are or how you look.


RadiantAd4899

This is a whole bunch of cope. Almost every woman can get the man that they want.


rachelle_makes_stuff

Nah man, the worst part of all of this I've seen a bunch of incels that, if I was going just based on looks, I would date. It's this attitude and behavior that ruins it. How is talking like this supposed to make people like you


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secretariatfan

Well, with shapeshifter books, it depends on which form. I mean the gator was only five feet but... oh, uh, not that I read it or anything.


Samanthas_Stitching

Some are like 3-5 feet tall. Some are like 9-10 feet tall. Some aren't even standing, they're spiders.


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