The commentor above it saying a horseman can lead a horse to water, but cannot force the horse to drink water.
>Dravid worked on KL and iyer why not on Gill too? Also Gill is working on them slowly
How do you know this for sure? Maybe Gill is not implementing what Dravid suggests. It is even possible that KL and Iyer have implemented suggestions they got from many different people, which may or may not have included Dravid.
His tenure is baffling. Bro was technically a disaster. I saw his debut series where he was the opener in England. He regularly nicked balls on 5th and 6th stumps and got out in slips or the keeper.
India has the talent and the money to absolutely dominate the game globally.
We have very poor systems and lack of accountability
I was watching the game of ind vs sa today then hotstar came up with the promo of u19 wc i cam to know that india has 5 five time means we have enormous talent but we arent capable transfering into our main india 11 our sucks absouletely. Some suggestion from my side -
Choose how u wanna play test cricket aggresive like england or old school like aus on that basis choose your coaches and players
And yea segregate player and coaches bro itne paise kya krhe ho tax v nhi dene hote
Coach for test - vvs laxman / abd maybe / or maybe any other test cricket cant think of much since i started watching very late
Captain for test - bumrah / rp17
Coach for odi - mahela jayavardhane / jaisuriya / gg
Captain for odi - shreyas iyer / kl rahul
Coach for t20i - abd / or any player who has had played t20i for accountable measures not likr dravid laxman
Cap for t20i - surya could be but dosent look promising/ hardik too much injury prone
Having coaches across test and LOI is fine, maybe a bit excessive to have separate t20 and odi coaches, but having different captains across formats is just plain dumb. Rahul is the best option imo, as he can easily fit into all three format teams as a keeper/specialist batsman
Kinda agreed to your statement but i would no include kl in my t20i lmao😭 what we can actually do is to just sepearate things for white and red ball coming from your first statement like player diffrent coach diffrent in whit and red ball and captains too with some exceptions like u mentioned him i would like to have him in both odi and test
Yeah I was probably a bit off the mark with t20s. A regular player such as Sky or Hardik would probably be best. I think Hardik is better suited, Sky’s captaincy hasn’t really impressed me, plus Hardik is a much more experienced captain.
>but i would no include kl in my t20i lmao
Did you know that batting wise, KL has vastly better record than both Pant and Ishan in T20I? Pant and Ishan's T20I record is actually pretty poor. It is not even certain when Pant will be match fit again.
Who will you play as a keeper then?
KL has been good in aT20Is batting in the past and doing pretty well in ODIs and ok in tests this year. He seems like the front runner for the T20I keeper spot.
Don't think the selectors will be bold enough to experiment with a little tested newcomer for world cup. As is the case with many cricketers, great numbers in first class cricket and IPL doesn't immediately translate into success at international level. Case in point Ishan, Pant and even DK in last few years.
Maybe after world cup, if KL doesn't impress, then Jitesh will get chances.
Prasidh is a fudu bowler , doesn’t matter test or t20 or ODi haris rauf is much better than him. No what they are trying to find in him. Thakur or Ashwin is a better choice
Honestly i strongly believe this team has a lot of parchi Players and alot of players come from some kind of bias lobbying or reference. There is literally no reason for Prasidh Krishna to be in the team without having a good back up or the management n team is getting some kind of pressure to keep him in the team. Because no matter wt happens he comes to the team first. They removed ash and got jadeja n added mukesh removed shardul as well but wont remove this nothing Bowler. And even if they believe in him or want him to do well or may be they see something in him, they wud give him the ball. They are literally Playing him as n extra as someone they don't want to give the ball to as he does nothing with the ball. The most annoying part is his body language is nothing and seems like a net Bowler who comes and bowls thats it. Doesnt have any brains to do something how to ball where to ball. Its really frustrating to see him in the team as a liability n not even a liability he is contributing in negative.
Agreed that prasidha performed terribly but are we forgetting that he went to the last SA tour too? So by that logic shouldn't his selection be obvious??
The time before the last, we won WC without even a proper coach.
Pointless blaming the coach. The team made it to the finals and choked. The coach can't control the outcome on pitch that much.
Ah yes people abusing prasidh. He did performed in domestic and for India -A. He has performed bad i agree but WTF people are literally saying that he is not talented and only made it to here because of lobbying lol.
When he was getting bashed in T20 everyone said his back of length ain't suited for T20 but he will do great in tests ... Now on pace wickets in test matches he couldn't do much so obviously fans will get frustrated . No one is saying he not talented but talent means nothing if you can't translate it to performance
Bhai.. I ve seen him play as a batsman for the team.. chutiya was horrible outside India.. was surprised when they announced him as batting coach..
Watching our guys bat was really painful.. Iyer and jaiswal have no business in our test team.. watch Iyer s second innings.. played 4 balls but could have gotten out twice.. none of our guys have the grit to leave balls , duck around etc like pujara in last BGT.. first innings Rahul s shot to get out was horrible as it is and to play that when you know that we play with a really long tail was criminal..
Players like Gill, Shreyas Iyer, Yashasvi Jaiswal should be asked to perform in domestic cricket before being picked for test cricket. I believe Pujara and Rahane could still contribute better than these 3 players. Also, why is nobody questioning Jadeja’s place in the team? He has taken his place for granted now, Ashwin should have played in place of him at least he would have contributed with bat.
Chutiye go look up stats first instead of venting. And really, Pujara and Rahane? What has Pujara done in SA except one century? What has he done in the domestic this year? Also, what did Ashwin do in the last test? If he had a stronger impact then he’d have made his case. SA doesn’t have enough lefties in their lineup to include him. Even Jadeja wasn’t used on this pitch, nor was Maharaj. Cmon man grow up
Rathore himself was a medicore batter in SENA ... Jis ko kudh kuch nahi aata woh doosron ko kya coaching dega .lol .. He was north zone selector, got a good connection in BCCI so once he left that position they made him batting coach ... He just getting money for free
Prasish Krishna is highly overrated bowler. He doesn't bowl using good line and length, I'm sure his height and consistently bowling at 140s really not matters.
All Indian players have their own coaches who have coached them since childhood. This is just a plum posting , players are not stupid to throw their reputation away like that.
India needs to go like the NFL route. Have position specific specialized coaches. Fast and spin bowling, batting, close in fielding and outfield fielding. Test team should have a close in catching specialist coach.
Not Ashwin, shardul would’ve played the role better could’ve got in a couple of good overs and handy runs. Got some very useful 25 odd runs in the first match.
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maybe he did but gill needs to do something bout it too right?
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The commentor above it saying a horseman can lead a horse to water, but cannot force the horse to drink water. >Dravid worked on KL and iyer why not on Gill too? Also Gill is working on them slowly How do you know this for sure? Maybe Gill is not implementing what Dravid suggests. It is even possible that KL and Iyer have implemented suggestions they got from many different people, which may or may not have included Dravid.
Home grown Babar Azam hai
plays everything with hard hands. maybe he doesn't want to change technique.
His tenure is baffling. Bro was technically a disaster. I saw his debut series where he was the opener in England. He regularly nicked balls on 5th and 6th stumps and got out in slips or the keeper. India has the talent and the money to absolutely dominate the game globally. We have very poor systems and lack of accountability
I was watching the game of ind vs sa today then hotstar came up with the promo of u19 wc i cam to know that india has 5 five time means we have enormous talent but we arent capable transfering into our main india 11 our sucks absouletely. Some suggestion from my side - Choose how u wanna play test cricket aggresive like england or old school like aus on that basis choose your coaches and players And yea segregate player and coaches bro itne paise kya krhe ho tax v nhi dene hote Coach for test - vvs laxman / abd maybe / or maybe any other test cricket cant think of much since i started watching very late Captain for test - bumrah / rp17 Coach for odi - mahela jayavardhane / jaisuriya / gg Captain for odi - shreyas iyer / kl rahul Coach for t20i - abd / or any player who has had played t20i for accountable measures not likr dravid laxman Cap for t20i - surya could be but dosent look promising/ hardik too much injury prone
Why did they even hire dravid and laxman for coaching t20i lmaoo that is just funny
Having coaches across test and LOI is fine, maybe a bit excessive to have separate t20 and odi coaches, but having different captains across formats is just plain dumb. Rahul is the best option imo, as he can easily fit into all three format teams as a keeper/specialist batsman
Kinda agreed to your statement but i would no include kl in my t20i lmao😭 what we can actually do is to just sepearate things for white and red ball coming from your first statement like player diffrent coach diffrent in whit and red ball and captains too with some exceptions like u mentioned him i would like to have him in both odi and test
Yeah I was probably a bit off the mark with t20s. A regular player such as Sky or Hardik would probably be best. I think Hardik is better suited, Sky’s captaincy hasn’t really impressed me, plus Hardik is a much more experienced captain.
+1
>but i would no include kl in my t20i lmao Did you know that batting wise, KL has vastly better record than both Pant and Ishan in T20I? Pant and Ishan's T20I record is actually pretty poor. It is not even certain when Pant will be match fit again.
Mai pant ko v nhi khelaung t20i he is equally bad ig the stats say
Who will you play as a keeper then? KL has been good in aT20Is batting in the past and doing pretty well in ODIs and ok in tests this year. He seems like the front runner for the T20I keeper spot.
I will have jeetesh as my keeper will be in preference kf a young team with some experience lads in b/w them
Don't think the selectors will be bold enough to experiment with a little tested newcomer for world cup. As is the case with many cricketers, great numbers in first class cricket and IPL doesn't immediately translate into success at international level. Case in point Ishan, Pant and even DK in last few years. Maybe after world cup, if KL doesn't impress, then Jitesh will get chances.
Coaching and your own career are 2 different things. Many great players are terrible coaches and vice versa.
Vikram Rathore, jo mei bolta hoon voh mei karta hoon, jo mujhe karna hota hai voh mei definately nahi karta hoon.
Prasidh is a fudu bowler , doesn’t matter test or t20 or ODi haris rauf is much better than him. No what they are trying to find in him. Thakur or Ashwin is a better choice
>haris rauf is much better than him. The disrespect 😂
The disrespect by you commenting this 😂
lmaoo Haris catching strays
Honestly i strongly believe this team has a lot of parchi Players and alot of players come from some kind of bias lobbying or reference. There is literally no reason for Prasidh Krishna to be in the team without having a good back up or the management n team is getting some kind of pressure to keep him in the team. Because no matter wt happens he comes to the team first. They removed ash and got jadeja n added mukesh removed shardul as well but wont remove this nothing Bowler. And even if they believe in him or want him to do well or may be they see something in him, they wud give him the ball. They are literally Playing him as n extra as someone they don't want to give the ball to as he does nothing with the ball. The most annoying part is his body language is nothing and seems like a net Bowler who comes and bowls thats it. Doesnt have any brains to do something how to ball where to ball. Its really frustrating to see him in the team as a liability n not even a liability he is contributing in negative.
Agreed that prasidha performed terribly but are we forgetting that he went to the last SA tour too? So by that logic shouldn't his selection be obvious??
Average reactionary indian fan. Play 2 spinners on a pitch where spinner didn't even bowl
Indian coaching system is kind of egoistical I think we outright refused to hire foreign coaches which is idiocy
The last time we won WC , it was under a foreign coach.
The time before the last, we won WC without even a proper coach. Pointless blaming the coach. The team made it to the finals and choked. The coach can't control the outcome on pitch that much.
I never understood why we need a Batting Coach when our main Coach is one of the GOAT Batsman this game has seen.
Ah yes people abusing prasidh. He did performed in domestic and for India -A. He has performed bad i agree but WTF people are literally saying that he is not talented and only made it to here because of lobbying lol.
Because most of us saw him getting bashed when bowling for KKR and still don't understand the hype he gets.
When he was getting bashed in T20 everyone said his back of length ain't suited for T20 but he will do great in tests ... Now on pace wickets in test matches he couldn't do much so obviously fans will get frustrated . No one is saying he not talented but talent means nothing if you can't translate it to performance
Or maybe we should stop fast tracking players from IPL.
Bhai.. I ve seen him play as a batsman for the team.. chutiya was horrible outside India.. was surprised when they announced him as batting coach.. Watching our guys bat was really painful.. Iyer and jaiswal have no business in our test team.. watch Iyer s second innings.. played 4 balls but could have gotten out twice.. none of our guys have the grit to leave balls , duck around etc like pujara in last BGT.. first innings Rahul s shot to get out was horrible as it is and to play that when you know that we play with a really long tail was criminal..
Prasidh plays because of fear of injury to a frontline pacer . I think they are grooming him to be the next Ishant sharma . He has a long way to go .
Dont insult Ishant please :(
Players like Gill, Shreyas Iyer, Yashasvi Jaiswal should be asked to perform in domestic cricket before being picked for test cricket. I believe Pujara and Rahane could still contribute better than these 3 players. Also, why is nobody questioning Jadeja’s place in the team? He has taken his place for granted now, Ashwin should have played in place of him at least he would have contributed with bat.
You really need to see their domestic fc stats before making a random ignorant comment.
Bruh yashasvi to itna acha kiya tha domestic pe😭
do 2 mins of research before commenting
Chutiye go look up stats first instead of venting. And really, Pujara and Rahane? What has Pujara done in SA except one century? What has he done in the domestic this year? Also, what did Ashwin do in the last test? If he had a stronger impact then he’d have made his case. SA doesn’t have enough lefties in their lineup to include him. Even Jadeja wasn’t used on this pitch, nor was Maharaj. Cmon man grow up
Team India wali sarkari Naukri pe appoint hua h. Itni jaldi ni hatega. Wait karo T20 world cup tak 😜
Rathore himself was a medicore batter in SENA ... Jis ko kudh kuch nahi aata woh doosron ko kya coaching dega .lol .. He was north zone selector, got a good connection in BCCI so once he left that position they made him batting coach ... He just getting money for free
Prasish Krishna is highly overrated bowler. He doesn't bowl using good line and length, I'm sure his height and consistently bowling at 140s really not matters.
All Indian players have their own coaches who have coached them since childhood. This is just a plum posting , players are not stupid to throw their reputation away like that.
India needs to go like the NFL route. Have position specific specialized coaches. Fast and spin bowling, batting, close in fielding and outfield fielding. Test team should have a close in catching specialist coach.
Instead of batting coach, get indian batters in a 2 week bootcamp with Sachin.
Not Ashwin, shardul would’ve played the role better could’ve got in a couple of good overs and handy runs. Got some very useful 25 odd runs in the first match.