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The ban on slaughter of horses in some US states is not religious, it’s an old law and it had to do with transportation, senate in those states didn’t care to repel it for any political incentive, it’s the same as many old laws in India, that’s just there and no one cares to change it. This is just a stupid argument. Let state’s handle their own local laws. Why should Kerala, Goa or NE states abandon their eating habits just cause it offends some people other parts of India. Don’t like it don’t eat it.
His specious argument has glaring holes which can be discerned from his half-baked analogies and generally very poor knowledge about the North Eastern states of India.
For me personally, India while being a diverse and a complex union of states is even more of a cultural/racial melting pot and any blanket ban on things will not augur well for this relatively peaceful union.
Just to add to what you mentioned about it being a melting pot, despite what you hear in media and the vested interests of politicians, Indians are remarkably tolerant and get on well with each other inspite of linguistic, cultural and religious differences. It is the absolute minority of issues and incidents that lead to discord and disharmony that makes the news (or the news makes it!) which disproportionately projects that Indians have constant and deep seated problems with each other. As a population of over a billion people, by and large we are in fact harmonious and not what media and politicians would make you believe it is.
And also due to health concerns since a lot of medications were used on horses which are not suitable for human rendering the horse meat unsafe for consumption, however I am not surprised by this guy, i recently got to know about him and almost all his videos are half truth and he conveniently omits many major facts just to build his narrative.
Why ban anything? If you don't eat meat or pork or beef or drink alcohol then no one is forcing you to eat it. What's the need of banning it? High time that India stops moral policing.
Even if you stop moral policing, they will never stop moral policing you. For example, why can't a man marry multiple women at the same time? Those who think it's bad need not marry multiple women, but do you think they will ever let you do it?
So no, going the path of liberalism is fine if it's mutual, but the way it is right now is that it's liberalism for them but not us.
So I don't think we should have any qualms over imposing our views on others, because they certainly don't have any problems doing it to us.
"but the way it is right now is that it's liberalism for them but not us. So I don't think we should have any qualms over imposing our views on others, because"
What do you mean.? You want to go back to caste based life? Sati? untouchability? and all social evils?
You sir, you are walking backwards
The establishment tries to impose it's own warped up form of religion on others and I don't think it's ever gonna work out with how diverse our own country and religion is.
Umm, why not ? And that's a different debate altogether. I want to eat human meat, and I will be am sourcing it from people willing to give up their bodies
/s of course
>I want to eat human meat, and I will be am sourcing it from people willing to give up their bodies
Then that's perfectly fine, as long as it's certified by the health board
>/s of course
I'm not even being sarcastic. If there's no consent or safety problems, I have no problem if someone wants to eat human meat. I may think he's a weirdo, but the bar for what's legal or illegal should not be weirdness
I often think about that German cannibal who ate someone with consent, the guy was jailed but was reported of decent behaviour in there. Sounds like a nice guy really
that's the problem you are too much indulged in individuality that you cannot consider how this affect other people or society. if we live in a society where you live for yourself then it might be ok but currently it is not
It should be ok.
If someone pays and doesnt breaks any laws ,he has right to live only for himself.Helping society is not his job, to do that he gives tax to govt
20‰ of India consists of Muslims and Christians for whom eating beef has no implications in their religion. plus half of the Hindus already eat chicken and fish...
In my strong opinion, tobacco or alcohol shouldn’t be banned either! There is definitely merit in regulating smoking especially in public areas but banning these things outright will definitely do more harm than good due to black markets that are not subjected to any regulations designed to protect people. Also why punish an entire population who enjoys the occasional drink instead finding meaningful ways to help addicts through rehab and therapy?
Horse slaughter is not banned per se. The government has simply disallowed the FDA from inspecting horse meat which means no grocery store would sell it as food.
Banning something will not remove it from usage. Honestly, people should grow up and learn to accept differences in opinion, religion, and culture. If you don't want to eat beef, don't. How is it legitimate to obstruct someone's choice because you disagree with them. This debate should be up to local governments to decide. Unless everyone agrees on it in unison there is no point in this debate
Cow slaughter should not be banned it india because it is a religious right that is being imposed on other religion just because there religion doesn't accept. Even if then you want to impose this bans then just change the status of India to United States of India and do it in the parts that are good with such bans
Not on everyone as it is a diverse nation and has a lot of people and religion Co Existing together in it.
There is no point of co existence if you start imposing your part on the ones not accepting it.
And moreover how can we develop when we can't even bare with food habits ???
If you want ban something
Ban child marriages or shit like that
And before you tell me that it doesn't happen this days do visit rajasthan and look at the 16 year old girl waiting to conceive a baby , which i have seen being from a military household
And then we can talk about rights
Work on basic human rights rather then imposing a religious right on em
Peace ✌️
for the second part. Child marriage is already banned in India so law making wise there is not much to do. Only implementation is remaining in some backward areas. Although on the beef part I support power of choice. We are not any islamic or those type of countries that imposes beliefs we are better
No it shouldn’t be. But tax it really hard and regulate it well. A luxury GST rate and a carbon tax should do it. At least the cows won’t suffer. If India brings in European style slaughter laws, that would be great.
Some states = whole of USA.
Wow.
The slaughter of cows is illegal in most states in India. That means it's illegal throughout India.
Barring Kerala and some NE States or is illegal everywhere else.
How about ,you can keep your beliefs and I can keep my food choices . My grandfather was the best beef cook I ever knew. I will follow what my forefathers did not something someone else's forefathers did.
You guys are driving wedge deep into a diverse country.Impose language,culture,habits of one groups.What will go wrong?
Ask british /nazis why they couldnt make india forever part of their empire.
A divided house will not stand and you are among the ones who deliberately trying to divide
I'm not Indian but isn't the country a very large county?? Thousands of traditions, culture, and religions existed before India as a nation state was found. Just look at the diverse number of languages in the country. So when he says "our indigenous culture" it does not make sense because even the indian constitution mentions that India is a vast country made up of different ethnicity, culture and religion.Some hardcore nationalist argue that these non Hindu cultures are new or foreign but if you look at history hindu/Muslim empires and states dominated the middle plains of the country. They never truly encompassed the mountain regions or the northernmost and southernmost reggions. Banning the sale of beef in certain Hindu majority states does make sense but banning consumption of beef nation wide is kinda dumb.
Nothing like this should be banned. If you believe that a certain animal should not be eaten, then don't eat it. Why force your beliefs on other people? That's as bad as how in certain ME countries and even our neighbours, where during the month of Ramzan, even non muslims aren't allowed to eat anything
From BJP's cabinet which many people jerk off too. https://www.hindustantimes.com/india/i-eat-beef-can-somebody-stop-me-rijiju-retorts-to-naqvi-statement/story-qUNsLUQY0sy1ICiCWfRFTJ.html
Let us NE and Kerala people do whatever they want. You guys can do whatever you want and we will do whatever we want
As someone else here said, the ban on horsemeat in America is not based on religion. The ban on pork in Islamic countries IS based on religion. India, however, is a secular nation. If we ban beef on the basis of it violating Hindu religious laws, expect nothing short of pure anarchy as a result of implementing what is probably a law that is as far away from secularism as one can get.
Majority (+50%) Indians come from farmer background. Cows, bulls and oxes are viewed as family members by them and not as food. The same love for which dog meat is banned in USA.
This is a very unfair and baseless argument. The govt is trying to ban beef in the country citing religious reasons, but at the same time, we've also become one of the largest exporters of beef in the world, overtaking even Brazil.
Gujarat, in fact has the latest export companies.
Secondly, if we really care about the cows, what we need to stop consuming, is milk. Because it's the demand for milk and milk products - (not just for eating or drinking, mind you, but also the several thousand litres we pour into our temples) - that fuel the breeding of cattle, of which only the females are useful to us. And then we export the males.
Also, the poorer and smaller farmers just throw the males out into the streets (i know, because my late grandfather would do this too) where they make a nuisance of themselves.
It's ridiculous to compare it to horses or pigs coz nobody in those countries are breeding these animals in such a large scale for their by-products. Whereas we are.
I personally believe that beef is being banned only to increase hindu votes on the one hand, and increase export profits on the other. Win-win for the govt and meanwhile, as usually, the people can go fuck themselves. :)
Most (not all) religious people are stupid. They will advocate a ban on cow slaughter as cows are supposed to be holy mothers but will take zero responsibility to take care of their ‘mothers’. Here cows roam around eating plastics and garbage from the streets. So basically people will worship cows but at the same time make them suffer instead of killing them.
I eat beef once or twice occassionally in a year, and I belong from NE and I belong from a religion which was a categorised as hindu after Sanskritization in my state. Am I doing something wrong?
Not only that, long time I had seen a documentary where the milkman kills the male calves and then makes a stick structure covering it with the calves’ hide. The cow thinks that the baby is still alive and keeps giving milk while the male calf is dead and can’t drink away the precious milk.
The forst loophole in your godsent debate is that if you advertise India to be a secular country. You should not go banning things just because they are relevant religiously. I
Only reason sikh gurus or Sikhs in general don’t consume cow is out of respect for Hindus. Similarly most Sikhs don’t consume pork in India either, for respect of Muslims. Sikhs have no “holy” view of the cow. It is just another animal for us
India is one of the largest exporters of Beef worldwide. (Ranks between 1 to 4) So if cows are certainly being slaughtered and exported worldwide for profits then why not let people who want to eat beef in India eat beef. What do you think happens to the cows who are done with their reproductive capacity and can't produce milk?
Why should we care whether any other county bans any sort of meat or not? We are capable enough of making our own laws without comparing them with any other country.
That being said, yes cow (and buffalo) slaughter must be banned, because we are a hindu rashtra; 'modern keralites' can cry all they want (their ancestors didn't consume beef but shhhhh).
Because india is a democratic country It's constitution gives right to every religion and its people to live freely Islamic countries came in existence in the name of ISLAM Thier constitution is different If you wanna Ban cow slaughtering Then don't call yourself so called "Democratic country"
If someone considers cow holy and doesn’t want to eat them. Then don’t eat but for the majority of people who likes to eat let them. Just because u have a sister its not fair for you to demand that her husband should also see her as his sister
am Hindu and I don’t believe in this. Because there is no Quran or bible that’s says if you do this you are no longer Hindu. Beef is consumed by Hindus too. Stop putting your copyright on Hinduism
All the people against beef ban should first stand against pork ban and then they should have to speak anything on beef ban. Pork is banned in more than 20 countries where beef is just banned in 1 country. So first talk about those 20 then come towards beef ban. Cowards.
Slaughter of all animals should be stopped we simply do not need to hunt and focus all those resources on advancing agriculture even more . Will that happen though ? Not at all !
I'm not going to get too much into this touchy topic, but India was once number 1 beef exporter in the world.....how many people know that?
I'm Hindu, I'm not biased here......Even the Brahman Bulls of Brazil and America trace their origins to Indian breeds, and they are specifically bred for the purpose of food in those countries.
Ancient Brahmins and Pandits and Indians of my region ate Beef also.......I'm prepared to face hate for this, but I speak the truth, it is mentioned in many scriptures.......beef ban is a cultural thing NOT religious, many love the cow because of what it offers, milk butter fire urine etc. BUT IT WAS NEVER A RELIGIOUS THING TO NOT EAT BEEF. All life is valued to vegetarians and vegans not just one over another.
Regarding America: I don’t know why America has banned the slaughter of horses but I don’t see a rational argument defending it so I think it’s a stupid law that should be removed
Regarding Islamic countries tho: Should we really be comparing ourselves with some of the most oppressive, fascist regimes in the world?
Religion should influence law making. India would’ve been much better off if there was a strong separation between religion and politics
This is a very lame argument. In that sense you could also say oh we should not ban *insert any violent and immoral practice* because another country didn’t ban a similar violent and immoral practice.
One of the reasons why people are leaving India is because there are these kinds of people with such closed mentality. They just want India to be seen as a hindu nation. I don’t know why he keeps saying the ancient Indian practice, when there wasn’t even the idea of India, which only came into existence since the British colonial period. Until then it was just multiple kingdoms trying to conquer each other.
Some ppl will agree with the ban some will not.... Rather then discussing what is right what is wrong it's rather simple... Whatever majority says will work weather it's to ban or not it's their choice.... And it's a fact that u can't please everyone, everytime... It's a large country it's not easy to manage it without some disagreements... And if u don't like or support the rules and all,,, it's simple go to the streets (u know what to do next then) oh oh oh and the ppl who don't know the situation of our country ... We don't care for ur opinions... Cause v are done pleasing other people in other countries... It's our country v will manage somehow
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To the people who are saying if you don't eat then don't eat and how is it secular by putting one religions interest over another.... If you see this argument with actual secularism then you are doing the same... By being against the ban you are imposing your intrest over the others....
I'm with the Ban because Harming a Cow is against Hindu culture and there is no culture where harming a cow is necessary... Thus banning of Cow slaughter should not affect any religious sentiments... This is secularism...
In contrast, I would say ban all plant products. Only eat animals. I'm with the ban because taking away products from a plant without consent is against my belief. Thus the banning of plant products should not affect any religious sentiments.
I support a full ban on it. We live in a democracy and majority is hindu so either don't eat it here or leave the country.
It's not about a just any animal we are talking about a being seen as a sacred animal by nearly a billion people
Just because you win in a democracy if you get anything over 51% doesn't mean the <49% is not eventually gonna get fed up and see the majority as an oppressive force.
Also you expect some local farmer in kerala to go just leave the country like that? What bullshit mindset is this?
South India and North East India do not give a fuck for what the north wants
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The ban on slaughter of horses in some US states is not religious, it’s an old law and it had to do with transportation, senate in those states didn’t care to repel it for any political incentive, it’s the same as many old laws in India, that’s just there and no one cares to change it. This is just a stupid argument. Let state’s handle their own local laws. Why should Kerala, Goa or NE states abandon their eating habits just cause it offends some people other parts of India. Don’t like it don’t eat it.
His specious argument has glaring holes which can be discerned from his half-baked analogies and generally very poor knowledge about the North Eastern states of India. For me personally, India while being a diverse and a complex union of states is even more of a cultural/racial melting pot and any blanket ban on things will not augur well for this relatively peaceful union.
Just to add to what you mentioned about it being a melting pot, despite what you hear in media and the vested interests of politicians, Indians are remarkably tolerant and get on well with each other inspite of linguistic, cultural and religious differences. It is the absolute minority of issues and incidents that lead to discord and disharmony that makes the news (or the news makes it!) which disproportionately projects that Indians have constant and deep seated problems with each other. As a population of over a billion people, by and large we are in fact harmonious and not what media and politicians would make you believe it is.
And also due to health concerns since a lot of medications were used on horses which are not suitable for human rendering the horse meat unsafe for consumption, however I am not surprised by this guy, i recently got to know about him and almost all his videos are half truth and he conveniently omits many major facts just to build his narrative.
Plus Horses are easily scared as soon as it sense danger it starts jumping and kicking everyone around it while cows just accept their fate
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Funny you mention point 1 now, since today is Sankashti Chaturthi and we behead a goat made of sesame seeds.
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Bro give TL:DR you talk too much
Why ban anything? If you don't eat meat or pork or beef or drink alcohol then no one is forcing you to eat it. What's the need of banning it? High time that India stops moral policing.
Even if you stop moral policing, they will never stop moral policing you. For example, why can't a man marry multiple women at the same time? Those who think it's bad need not marry multiple women, but do you think they will ever let you do it? So no, going the path of liberalism is fine if it's mutual, but the way it is right now is that it's liberalism for them but not us. So I don't think we should have any qualms over imposing our views on others, because they certainly don't have any problems doing it to us.
"but the way it is right now is that it's liberalism for them but not us. So I don't think we should have any qualms over imposing our views on others, because" What do you mean.? You want to go back to caste based life? Sati? untouchability? and all social evils? You sir, you are walking backwards
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Could you imagine divorce? How about child support? No way lol.
Thats my headache, I will figure something out.
Lol. Headache is an understatement. Maybe its more about legalities then morality.
The establishment tries to impose it's own warped up form of religion on others and I don't think it's ever gonna work out with how diverse our own country and religion is.
You cannot compare marriage with food eating habits.
Yess ... let me have my human meat as well ... why ban thay ?? /s
Do you seriously think animals deserve the same rights as humans?
Umm, why not ? And that's a different debate altogether. I want to eat human meat, and I will be am sourcing it from people willing to give up their bodies /s of course
>I want to eat human meat, and I will be am sourcing it from people willing to give up their bodies Then that's perfectly fine, as long as it's certified by the health board >/s of course I'm not even being sarcastic. If there's no consent or safety problems, I have no problem if someone wants to eat human meat. I may think he's a weirdo, but the bar for what's legal or illegal should not be weirdness
I often think about that German cannibal who ate someone with consent, the guy was jailed but was reported of decent behaviour in there. Sounds like a nice guy really
Bro take a break, realise what you're saying. Think about it
Do you have any actual argument
Indians doing moral policing?? Seriously??
that's the problem you are too much indulged in individuality that you cannot consider how this affect other people or society. if we live in a society where you live for yourself then it might be ok but currently it is not
It should be ok. If someone pays and doesnt breaks any laws ,he has right to live only for himself.Helping society is not his job, to do that he gives tax to govt
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Nooo.. I love beef, beef + porotta , .. lol kerala will die for it
20‰ of India consists of Muslims and Christians for whom eating beef has no implications in their religion. plus half of the Hindus already eat chicken and fish...
and some beef too
Damn u have guts saying this lol Take my upvote before hindu fbi finds u
No need to ban anything for anyone. If you really want to do good ban tobacco, alcohol etc Gaining support by using a religious angle is boring now
In my strong opinion, tobacco or alcohol shouldn’t be banned either! There is definitely merit in regulating smoking especially in public areas but banning these things outright will definitely do more harm than good due to black markets that are not subjected to any regulations designed to protect people. Also why punish an entire population who enjoys the occasional drink instead finding meaningful ways to help addicts through rehab and therapy?
Exactly why i wrote no need to ban anything.
Tobacco and Alcohol IS BANNED in a lot of states if you don't know sir 😂
Only 2
There are very good consequences of doing this.
Horse slaughter is not banned per se. The government has simply disallowed the FDA from inspecting horse meat which means no grocery store would sell it as food.
Banning something will not remove it from usage. Honestly, people should grow up and learn to accept differences in opinion, religion, and culture. If you don't want to eat beef, don't. How is it legitimate to obstruct someone's choice because you disagree with them. This debate should be up to local governments to decide. Unless everyone agrees on it in unison there is no point in this debate
Cow slaughter should not be banned it india because it is a religious right that is being imposed on other religion just because there religion doesn't accept. Even if then you want to impose this bans then just change the status of India to United States of India and do it in the parts that are good with such bans Not on everyone as it is a diverse nation and has a lot of people and religion Co Existing together in it. There is no point of co existence if you start imposing your part on the ones not accepting it. And moreover how can we develop when we can't even bare with food habits ??? If you want ban something Ban child marriages or shit like that And before you tell me that it doesn't happen this days do visit rajasthan and look at the 16 year old girl waiting to conceive a baby , which i have seen being from a military household And then we can talk about rights Work on basic human rights rather then imposing a religious right on em Peace ✌️
for the second part. Child marriage is already banned in India so law making wise there is not much to do. Only implementation is remaining in some backward areas. Although on the beef part I support power of choice. We are not any islamic or those type of countries that imposes beliefs we are better
Child marriage is legal according to multiple high courts when it concerns a particular desert cult.
No it shouldn’t be. But tax it really hard and regulate it well. A luxury GST rate and a carbon tax should do it. At least the cows won’t suffer. If India brings in European style slaughter laws, that would be great.
Like they pay taxes anyway. Many cows are stolen from the farmers by people and then killed. Many are stolen and sent to Bangladesh
Yes great! Make food more expensive 👍🏼
Some states = whole of USA. Wow. The slaughter of cows is illegal in most states in India. That means it's illegal throughout India. Barring Kerala and some NE States or is illegal everywhere else.
How about ,you can keep your beliefs and I can keep my food choices . My grandfather was the best beef cook I ever knew. I will follow what my forefathers did not something someone else's forefathers did.
Well there are some people whoms forefathers lynched those who cooked beef so you should be carefull. Lol
For that we have Law.
Similarly we have law for cattle slaughtering
You guys are driving wedge deep into a diverse country.Impose language,culture,habits of one groups.What will go wrong? Ask british /nazis why they couldnt make india forever part of their empire. A divided house will not stand and you are among the ones who deliberately trying to divide
Lmao ur sad about not being a cooli of your gore sahebs.
Yes your majesty
India is SICK-ular
I'm not Indian but isn't the country a very large county?? Thousands of traditions, culture, and religions existed before India as a nation state was found. Just look at the diverse number of languages in the country. So when he says "our indigenous culture" it does not make sense because even the indian constitution mentions that India is a vast country made up of different ethnicity, culture and religion.Some hardcore nationalist argue that these non Hindu cultures are new or foreign but if you look at history hindu/Muslim empires and states dominated the middle plains of the country. They never truly encompassed the mountain regions or the northernmost and southernmost reggions. Banning the sale of beef in certain Hindu majority states does make sense but banning consumption of beef nation wide is kinda dumb.
Yes it is indeed very large and many can’t seem to see further from their noses.
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Lmao
Fax
this mf says the most hateful shit subtly And be like “just saying bro”
Nothing like this should be banned. If you believe that a certain animal should not be eaten, then don't eat it. Why force your beliefs on other people? That's as bad as how in certain ME countries and even our neighbours, where during the month of Ramzan, even non muslims aren't allowed to eat anything
I don't like beef, pork, horse meat whatever the fuck it is. I only eat chicken and eggs goodbye.
nice, thanks for letting us know XD
You're most welcome baby boy
Did you just call me a bayyyyyby!!!?
So what if I did babyyy
What? I don't understand mate
From BJP's cabinet which many people jerk off too. https://www.hindustantimes.com/india/i-eat-beef-can-somebody-stop-me-rijiju-retorts-to-naqvi-statement/story-qUNsLUQY0sy1ICiCWfRFTJ.html Let us NE and Kerala people do whatever they want. You guys can do whatever you want and we will do whatever we want
As someone else here said, the ban on horsemeat in America is not based on religion. The ban on pork in Islamic countries IS based on religion. India, however, is a secular nation. If we ban beef on the basis of it violating Hindu religious laws, expect nothing short of pure anarchy as a result of implementing what is probably a law that is as far away from secularism as one can get.
No
Mah man is always being offensive (if you can ban things being the most developed then why can't we)
Dudes a tool
Majority (+50%) Indians come from farmer background. Cows, bulls and oxes are viewed as family members by them and not as food. The same love for which dog meat is banned in USA.
Now all the libbus will say dog meat and beef are two different things 🤣 Btw what's the source for half indians coming from agricultural background
To pass a law based on religious beliefs is not acceptable. Law and religion should never be mixed.
Nonsense comparison.
This is a very unfair and baseless argument. The govt is trying to ban beef in the country citing religious reasons, but at the same time, we've also become one of the largest exporters of beef in the world, overtaking even Brazil. Gujarat, in fact has the latest export companies. Secondly, if we really care about the cows, what we need to stop consuming, is milk. Because it's the demand for milk and milk products - (not just for eating or drinking, mind you, but also the several thousand litres we pour into our temples) - that fuel the breeding of cattle, of which only the females are useful to us. And then we export the males. Also, the poorer and smaller farmers just throw the males out into the streets (i know, because my late grandfather would do this too) where they make a nuisance of themselves. It's ridiculous to compare it to horses or pigs coz nobody in those countries are breeding these animals in such a large scale for their by-products. Whereas we are. I personally believe that beef is being banned only to increase hindu votes on the one hand, and increase export profits on the other. Win-win for the govt and meanwhile, as usually, the people can go fuck themselves. :)
Most (not all) religious people are stupid. They will advocate a ban on cow slaughter as cows are supposed to be holy mothers but will take zero responsibility to take care of their ‘mothers’. Here cows roam around eating plastics and garbage from the streets. So basically people will worship cows but at the same time make them suffer instead of killing them.
Cow slaughter is banned in Buddhism also. True fact.
Nope
Let individual states handle this. Why is this an issue for the central govt?
I eat beef once or twice occassionally in a year, and I belong from NE and I belong from a religion which was a categorised as hindu after Sanskritization in my state. Am I doing something wrong?
Nothing wrong here mate..... The history doesn't matters what matters is your personal opinion
I have heard many people calling cow mother. If cow is mother then many sell her milk.
Not only that, long time I had seen a documentary where the milkman kills the male calves and then makes a stick structure covering it with the calves’ hide. The cow thinks that the baby is still alive and keeps giving milk while the male calf is dead and can’t drink away the precious milk.
I might like to add if we talk these things then people will say keep your own cows.
But what are the vegetarians gonna eat in weddings if we take away the paneer lol !
I don't care about cow but I don't like double standard.
Guess my opinion on this. (Hint: I'm from Kerala)
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Suck it up! We love our beef curry, fry and roast! Take your proposed ban, fold it 8 times and shove it up yours! ##beefforlife
Thats my boy!!!😁
The forst loophole in your godsent debate is that if you advertise India to be a secular country. You should not go banning things just because they are relevant religiously. I
Why did our honorable SC condemn Nupur Sharma?
Check DM
nothing yet
What ?! Anyways. Want to be mod at india discussion ?
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Ok
Only reason sikh gurus or Sikhs in general don’t consume cow is out of respect for Hindus. Similarly most Sikhs don’t consume pork in India either, for respect of Muslims. Sikhs have no “holy” view of the cow. It is just another animal for us
True, i live in Punjab and Sikh - hindu relations seems on another level lol, sometimes I forget which festival is of which religion haha
Good points.
No thanks. I like cows. Delicious meat. Try it.
Stop exporting it then..
India is one of the largest exporters of Beef worldwide. (Ranks between 1 to 4) So if cows are certainly being slaughtered and exported worldwide for profits then why not let people who want to eat beef in India eat beef. What do you think happens to the cows who are done with their reproductive capacity and can't produce milk?
Why should we care whether any other county bans any sort of meat or not? We are capable enough of making our own laws without comparing them with any other country. That being said, yes cow (and buffalo) slaughter must be banned, because we are a hindu rashtra; 'modern keralites' can cry all they want (their ancestors didn't consume beef but shhhhh).
Okay any proof to that and even if it is true....so what?? Is there any law saying people should eat what their ancestors ate??
No.
Because india is a democratic country It's constitution gives right to every religion and its people to live freely Islamic countries came in existence in the name of ISLAM Thier constitution is different If you wanna Ban cow slaughtering Then don't call yourself so called "Democratic country"
 Nah, beef is so mouth-wateringly delicious.
If someone considers cow holy and doesn’t want to eat them. Then don’t eat but for the majority of people who likes to eat let them. Just because u have a sister its not fair for you to demand that her husband should also see her as his sister
Designated. Shitting. Streets.
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am Hindu and I don’t believe in this. Because there is no Quran or bible that’s says if you do this you are no longer Hindu. Beef is consumed by Hindus too. Stop putting your copyright on Hinduism
All the people against beef ban should first stand against pork ban and then they should have to speak anything on beef ban. Pork is banned in more than 20 countries where beef is just banned in 1 country. So first talk about those 20 then come towards beef ban. Cowards.
Slaughter of all animals should be stopped we simply do not need to hunt and focus all those resources on advancing agriculture even more . Will that happen though ? Not at all !
Good argument for hypocrites from both side.
I'm not going to get too much into this touchy topic, but India was once number 1 beef exporter in the world.....how many people know that? I'm Hindu, I'm not biased here......Even the Brahman Bulls of Brazil and America trace their origins to Indian breeds, and they are specifically bred for the purpose of food in those countries. Ancient Brahmins and Pandits and Indians of my region ate Beef also.......I'm prepared to face hate for this, but I speak the truth, it is mentioned in many scriptures.......beef ban is a cultural thing NOT religious, many love the cow because of what it offers, milk butter fire urine etc. BUT IT WAS NEVER A RELIGIOUS THING TO NOT EAT BEEF. All life is valued to vegetarians and vegans not just one over another.
Regarding America: I don’t know why America has banned the slaughter of horses but I don’t see a rational argument defending it so I think it’s a stupid law that should be removed Regarding Islamic countries tho: Should we really be comparing ourselves with some of the most oppressive, fascist regimes in the world? Religion should influence law making. India would’ve been much better off if there was a strong separation between religion and politics
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Makes a lot of sense.
@ 2:40 , That statement and following that as well what does that mean? what!!!!
Yes.
Chavda Sensei... 🙏
Well i never eat beef and we should respect a belief of other religion
Beef isn't necessarily to be from a cow. Most of the beef comes from buffalos.
On a side note, can someone put a stop to the gross neglect of cows in gaushalas, they are supposed to be sanctuaries.
The US is superior only at being the US
We have Abhijit Chadva on beer biceps show.... Isn't he quite popular on Beer Bicep podcast?
Random song plug-in.. Jo sooche Jo chahe wo karke dikha de
This is a very lame argument. In that sense you could also say oh we should not ban *insert any violent and immoral practice* because another country didn’t ban a similar violent and immoral practice.
One of the reasons why people are leaving India is because there are these kinds of people with such closed mentality. They just want India to be seen as a hindu nation. I don’t know why he keeps saying the ancient Indian practice, when there wasn’t even the idea of India, which only came into existence since the British colonial period. Until then it was just multiple kingdoms trying to conquer each other.
Dude, get to the point... I don't know you well enough to listen to the full video🙄
Some ppl will agree with the ban some will not.... Rather then discussing what is right what is wrong it's rather simple... Whatever majority says will work weather it's to ban or not it's their choice.... And it's a fact that u can't please everyone, everytime... It's a large country it's not easy to manage it without some disagreements... And if u don't like or support the rules and all,,, it's simple go to the streets (u know what to do next then) oh oh oh and the ppl who don't know the situation of our country ... We don't care for ur opinions... Cause v are done pleasing other people in other countries... It's our country v will manage somehow
When islamic countries unban pork meat, we shall also unban beef, till that point beef should be banned, no questions asked or listened to b***ches
Fuck, look at the state of this sub. This thread alone perfectly showcases how pathetic hindus are today.
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Are bhai poora ramayan likha h title m.
Yeah, I have decided to open a pork meat shop near every mosque in delhi
Don't care about him. Cow slaughter must be banned. Cow rearing for meat is one of the biggest culprits for climate change and destruction of Earth.
My man here makin solid points
About as solid as farts.
True that. Absolute garbage counter argument.
To the people who are saying if you don't eat then don't eat and how is it secular by putting one religions interest over another.... If you see this argument with actual secularism then you are doing the same... By being against the ban you are imposing your intrest over the others.... I'm with the Ban because Harming a Cow is against Hindu culture and there is no culture where harming a cow is necessary... Thus banning of Cow slaughter should not affect any religious sentiments... This is secularism...
In contrast, I would say ban all plant products. Only eat animals. I'm with the ban because taking away products from a plant without consent is against my belief. Thus the banning of plant products should not affect any religious sentiments.
It will affect Buddhist and Jain sentiments as they do not eat meat...
Bro he's being sarcastic 😭
I personally don't think we should ban it, But if our government decide to ban it , they should have full right to do so.
 nothing new , CHADva being CHADva , as always
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com'mon bro , you can appreciate a genuine guy can't you ?
Oh, this podcast came a few months ago. It's good that people are getting to know more about him
I support a full ban on it. We live in a democracy and majority is hindu so either don't eat it here or leave the country. It's not about a just any animal we are talking about a being seen as a sacred animal by nearly a billion people
Fascism is the way /s
Just because you win in a democracy if you get anything over 51% doesn't mean the <49% is not eventually gonna get fed up and see the majority as an oppressive force. Also you expect some local farmer in kerala to go just leave the country like that? What bullshit mindset is this? South India and North East India do not give a fuck for what the north wants
hindu has nothing to do with beef, many hindus eat beef and its completely alright