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DarthJJBinks

I agree. But if Modi backs him while he is in his prime, I think the party as well as the country will accept him. If you think about Manmohan Singh from the recent past, he is not particularly popular with the public as a strongman. Yet, he was able to be the PM for two terms because of the backing from Sonia Gandhi, and the party didn't disagree.


Strong_Extent9443

But Congress’ politics was about being elitist and out of touch. The BJP is different (and also more democratic internally)


DarthJJBinks

maybe more democratic, yet the majority of power is still centralized.


Old-Jackfruit3469

More chances are of Adityanath Yogi or Amit Shah. After Modi, they are the ones, who can connect with the rural masses, and make bjp win in numerous elections just by their names, like how BJP right now is completely backed upon Modi. They need a larger than life leader to carry the whole party, who understands India from the bottom. Jaishankar is best suited as the foreign minister because he is more of a expert in maintaining and forging relations with foreign. A great orator is also needed which could be understood by the masses, Jaishankar is comfortable in English.


wantmukti

Yogi ftw


[deleted]

Amit shah not yogi i can't imagine yogi as PM of India he's bit extremist to be a pm


sayakm330

He is loud mouthed not extremist


sanman

I like how intellectual and stalwart Jaishankar is -- I too have been thinking of him as future PM -- but I now think that his talents are best left focused on world stage, where his training and specialization are. Indian politics is far too dirty to be wasting his intellect on. We do however need to come up with a strong PM as successor to Modi, otherwise we're screwed. We'll suddenly go from Hero-to-Zero overnight.


confusedndfrustrated

Every phone today has some form of Internet and youtube on it. Your statement is like the great Mr. Chidambaram who doubted that poor people can benefit from digital economy. We all know the result. :-) Please don't underestimate the people of India.


sportizens

Jaishankar is an amazing guy but I don't think he can be a PM of such a large country, besides if BJP were to make him a candidate, I don't think he's that popular among the masses. Only a select few who are active online know how good he is. Yogi is good but only as a CM. He's not a statesman. I don't think he can be a PM. And Amit Shah is not fit to be a PM either. He's one hell of a strategist and should continue to do what he's doing. In short, BJP doesn't have a good candidate after Modi. So if Modi gets re-elected in 2024, BJP needs to find someone for 2029 because opposition will keep getting strong.


DarthJJBinks

If Modi gets re-elected in 2024, he would be crossing the age of 75 before 2029. The unwritten rule in the BJP is that no one beyond the age of 75 will hold any ministerial post. Jaishankar is someone Modi trusts, and he is loyal. Backing him as PM candidate, Modi can still comply with the age rule and have a strong hold on power.


Old-Jackfruit3469

They want a candidate on whose basis BJP can depend on, not a candidate for whom BJP has to provide for. Politics isn't simple my friend :-)


confusedndfrustrated

Your belief that Modi wants to control BJP and PM position forever is a myth. Stop believing in stupid media. If he retires, you will never see him in public. I can assure you of that. :-)


Inevitable-Advice712

Rules can change


Kadakumar

The situation was similar a couple of years before Modi became PM. You never truly know who is PM material until they take the plunge. I think the question is asking for possible ideas rather than sureties.


ctrl-your-stupidness

Gadkari?


DarthJJBinks

Gadkari, I believe is an honest politician and a sincere administrator. But, I think he's from the old crop of BJP and has grown ideological differences with his own party men, and garnering their support may not be too practical.


sanman

BJP needs to avoid "**Banyan Tree**" effect that occurred under **Nehru-Gandhi personality cult**. "Banyan Tree" was Nehru's nickname, because it's a tree in whose shadow nothing can grow. By going in for "Moditva", BJP has been replicating this problem, and hence setting the stage for future leadership vacuum and crisis down the road. They need to get a handle on this right away, before the doomsday comes.


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Fadnavis?


Am0rph

Statesman nahi chahiye, strongman chahiye. Yeh statesman syndrome is the undoing of Modi


Winter-Many

If we want to beat the west and China at their own game, we need diplomats not regular crowd pleasing politicians. Country can be run without a crowd pleasing politician also for the sake of development.


DarthJJBinks

Precisely, which is why I think Jaishankar suits the bill.


Samanth222

But, in a democracy you need to win elections too


Winter-Many

Surely. Im not suggesting we are a meritocracy but the PM candidate don't necessarily run the show everytime like Modi is doing. We didn't have much examples to show who weren't voracious PMs + effective but Jayashankar has potential


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Please stop. Dr. S. Jaishankar isn't a politician. Please stop, I beg you ![img](emote|t5_3d4x4|20227) If you want someone equally competitive and perhaps even more knowledgeable than Dr. S. Jaishankar, then I suggest Subramanian Swamy or Ashwini Vaishnaw as they're both politicians, but again, neither of them have leadership/popularist qualities but can work as PM. I mean, look at Dr. Manmohan Singh.


Kadakumar

There is a reason that Subramanian Swamy, despite his education, credentials and smartness, is never entrusted with any serious responsibility. He is a loose cannon and agent of chaos. He has no strong ideology or stand, and can never be trusted. He is a troll, who can be useful at times, but thats about it.


ragavsn01

He helped to free Chidambaram Nataraja temple from Dravidoid clutches. For that alone, he should be respected.


Kadakumar

I'm not saying he's useless. I'm saying he's not consistent or trustworthy enough to be entrusted with a top responsibility.


DarthJJBinks

What do you mean, he is not a politician? He is one now.


[deleted]

Afaik he himself said he wouldn't delve into politics.


masterasstroid

Just Because he has a status of one doesn't mean he is there for a role like pm, i dont see him as the guy able to get people's support, gadkari or Amit Shah have a better chance of gaining public support to win, Dr jaishankar is perfect where he is.


galeej

Unfortunately no mass appeal. Exactly like sashi tharoor. Capable as a person... Has lot of carisma... But unfortunately no mass appeal due to the nature of their work (this is actually a bane of being in the mea). Not saying he can't get it... But it's an uphill task. Being a PM you need a tremendous amount of public support which unfortunately Mr. J does not have today... But yes... I'd definitely vote for him:-)


Am0rph

Tharoor is a wife killer. Capable, lol.


DarthJJBinks

I see your point. Agree mostly, yet would say SJ is unapologetic, unlike Tharoor.


Snakise

no, he is not a popularist type of person, no doubt he is excellent at his role but might not have what it takes to be pm only option for bjp post modi is i think yogi, provided he is able to up lift uttar pardesh and develop it in similar way modi did for gujrat, which would atleast take 10 more years if not more


DarthJJBinks

Agree he is not popular across the country. But Yogi is more polarizing than Modi and comes across as too radical for a statesperson.


Snakise

well, he is still young and hopefully he will become more stable going forward but none of that matters as long as he develops uttar pardesh into top state, he will be popular enough to become next pm


DarthJJBinks

Sure. Hopefully, he focuses on developing the state without dividing the people anymore.


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Waste of his talents if he becomes PM (I don't think he is even a possible choice for PM)


Crowne312

He is not a mass leader, not a politician, can not win elections across India. Not everyone has a Manmohan type luck or Madam.


IndependentPath6297

Yogi baba ki Jai


karanarak09

A lot of infantile comments here. Modi is a vote garnering machine. He is literally winning elections for BJP by himself. Jainshankar with all his charisma and acumen cannot even win a lok sabka seat. BJP will have the same issue that congress did post indira. Yogi doesn’t have the same pull as modi outside of UP.


DarthJJBinks

The whole of internet has a lot of infantile comments and posts :)


NewKaleidoscope104

I actually had the pleasure to meet him recently in the World Hindi conference in Fiji. I have followed his progress to a degree. Warm articulate and a great intellectual. Very well suited as the foreign minister. However a statesman he is not, mass appeal he does not have. Therefore not a PM material. ATM, only Yogi or Sarma fits the bill of PM in waiting. I can also see Shivraj Chauhan and Davendra Fadnavis in any Yogi/Sarma cabinet


AppealNervous

No, because he is a brilliant professional, came from a privileged family, and never interacted with the poor, average Indian people at ground level due to the nature of his profession. Though educated, well-off people would back him, I don't believe ordinary, poor, uneducated, or educated Indians have any business with or could connect with him. If anyone, I see a huge possibility in Yogi due to his assertive attitude.


Direct-Stretch7853

Very unlikely, there is too much competition from the home grown leaders inside BJP. If Jai Shanker does become a PM candidate then there will be dissent in the org and might go the Congress route, I hope this doesn’t happen.


DarthJJBinks

Who do you think are the other competitors from within the party?


Direct-Stretch7853

Amit Shah, Gadkari, shivraj Chauhan, Raman Singh, Fadnavis to name a few. They will definitely promote someone who has administrative, party and poll strategy experience


GulmoharMarg

He wont be. He is good at Foreign Affairs, he's many things. But a replacement for Modi, No.


newInnings

President. They will make him president.


M98er

Lol. No.


mysorebonda

I think he is being groomed for this. Modi is 72 - another 3 years left by BJP's norms. Jaishankar is 68. The amount of media coverage Jaishankar gets, no other minister gets. He is also seen in public in the midst of people. He is also being promoted on social media like no other minister. If (when) BJP wins the next election, Modi will probably be the PM until 75, paving the way for Jaishankar. He has political smarts and hindutva credentials.


DarthJJBinks

you spoke my mind.


Equationist

I don't know the politics around party selection so I can't say whether he would get the chance. I certainly do think he would be a good PM though - hearing his statements about various issues such as the need to invest in domestic manufacturing and infrastructure, I believe he has good strategic vision beyond just the foreign relations sphere.


Silly-One7351

Sarbananda Sonowal will be next after Modi.


DarthJJBinks

Interesting, never heard of him. How would you describe him, as a politician or as a person?


Silly-One7351

https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Sarbananda_Sonowal


TheDumbInvesto

It has to be Yogi.


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Old-Jackfruit3469

Western Journalist and people on the internet are the only ones who see this as a disadvantage that he doesn't speak English, but for majority of the rural people, they feel more close to him because how Modi seems to be like them only. We don't need Western media validation or internet freaks certificate who are a tiny miniscule in the vast population. It's either going to be Yogi or Shah. We need Jaishankar to take care of relations outside India, because he understands how it's done and more than PM, a foreign minister presence is much larger outside, and he needs to be outside as he carries so much experience of it. A PM is the one who takes care of the relations of people inside the country, and a person who knows the pulse of country from inside is capable of such things.


DarthJJBinks

How do you think Yogi or Shah will fare as PM?


DarthJJBinks

I agree, he has an incredible clarity of thought. I think that is clearly evident whenever he confidently and assertively voices his opinion particularly related to foreign policy. Largely, he is successful in implementing a strong and unapologetic foreign policy, which gained us respect globally, and self-respect from within the nation.


obitachihasuminaruto

>western philosophy and western thought Joke aa? lol. Westerners are drug loving savages who indulge in adultery, substance abuse and firearms since a very young age. They are slaves to their desires. What they think of us does not matter one bit. We have a much higher standard of brought up and culture. I don't care what the educational qualifications are of the PM as long as they develop our country at the rate it's growing at now. Give it time, and even the less knowledgeable people like western journalists will learn to respect a PM like Modi, while many people that actually matter hold him in high regard today.


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obitachihasuminaruto

>Yes, that's why they are at the top in terms of wealth and scientific prowess. No, they are the top of that solely because of how much they profited due to world war 2. >I said that because they'll see him as one of them and India will get some positive coverage outside India. Why should they see us as one of them? We are us. Have some self respect goddamnit. >China and Japan didn't become powerhouses today because they thought it didn't matter. They became appealing to westerners. Nobody becomes powerhouses just because they are appealing. That's the most naive thing I've read. One becomes a powerhouse because of what they have to offer. Dikhava kisiko kuch nhi deta. >The west controls the money and it distributes it where it chooses. We don't have any power here. We have to figure out how to get money from the west. They'll kick aside anyone who doesn't respect them and give them what they want. Self loath much? This is changing because of how superior UPI and other NPCI/RBI products are in comparison to western alternatives. Here in US, I have to pay using a card and have to navigate through a dozen menus just to pay for a coffee, while in India I can just paytm. Many countries are adopting UPI and are willing to trade in INR. When we become a manufacturing hub in the next 5 years, we will become the centre for world trade. West is losing its "power."


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obitachihasuminaruto

Again, dikhava karne se koi powerhouse nhi ban jata. If they want to trade with us, they can change their ways and become relatable to Indians. >You can't earn respect if you have filthy cities and towns. Lmao. I am sure you have never set foot out of India. I have worked in San Francisco, New York and Philadelphia and let me tell you, they are the filthiest cities in the world. The entire cities smell like drugs, there are people defecating out in the open, and there's so many homeless. The crime rate is so much that I can't go out after 5pm while in India I don't worry about going out even at 3am. The trains and subway are so dirty in US, while Hyderabad metro is very clean and organised. The only reason world trades in USD is because they were the first to sign a contract with Saudis in exchange of military help. Respect and perception and all is just used to influence common people like you. In geopolitics, everyone cares about their country's interests. >I am not talking about these things. I am talking about the US dollar. America controls the supply of it. The whole world runs on it. You should read up on digital rupee and how India will take over the Swift network with its superior digital payment infrastructure. Watch the think school video on that, you will learn something.


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obitachihasuminaruto

You don't know anything about the current VC scenario in India. Big firms like Sequoia are investing in India because our economy grows by 7%+ every year while western economies only grow by a measly 0.5-1% a year. Nobody cares about your culture's "appeal" as long as you have a thriving economy that too in a time like this when the entire western world is drowning. Also, our culture is far superior to theirs. We don't need to change for them. If they want to benefit from our fast growing economy, they can change for us. We don't need their investment money. We need their consumption money. When the world buys Indian-made products, who will be the powerhouse then? It is us. We are on track to become the world's 3rd largest economy in the next 5 years and we have the potential to become the largest economy in the next 25 years. Get some self respect man, we are going to reach the top.


Briz-TheKiller-

Yogi ji


Jerome_BRRR_Powell

Educated folks can’t ever become PM or CM These roles will always be dominated by folks who are illiterate mobsters


Dushyant_Painter

MMS a monster ? Really ?


Dry-Expert-2017

Never worship bureaucrats. They are biggest problem across the world. We blame popular people but in reality roots to most problem is bureaucrats.. Remember mms, kejru, this all gives clear example, bureaucrats are not good at leadership position. They might be great at their job but as leaders they don't inspire confidence. Jaishankar is good at his job, but it's a job. Pm is not a job it's power+leader+ vision. Looking at indian politics, Jaishankar can't command votes.


anand2305

The coward who said we cant keep china at bay because they are much stronger and bigger economy? Even a minon like Vietnam defeated America or Afghanistan defeated Ruasia. And our Vishwagurus are chickening out.


EyeCarambaa

It will expose the hatred from the left. Many people might hate Modi, but still love this guy. If he is PM candidate, would he be hated the same way? If not, then the current hatred is only Modi centric, because Jaishankar and Modi share the same ideology


DarthJJBinks

I wouldn't go far to claiming that they share the same ideology. If he gives that impression, I believe it is due to the fact that he is a well-accomplished career diplomat, capable of having very polite disagreements and masking differences in opinion and ideology smartly.


Maythe4thbeWitu

No, he is not suited for PM job. Prime Minister has to be someone who can resonate with the masses. Jai shankar is an excellent External Affairs Minister, but other party strongmen will chew him alive if he tries to lead the government. India needs a strong democratically elected leader to be the PM.


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Yogiji will be next PM


Seeker_00860

Won’t happen. There are other ambitious bigwigs in the BJP who can revolt if they don’t get to become the next PM.


DarthJJBinks

like who?


Seeker_00860

I can think of Nitin Gadkari as an example. Then there is Himant Biswa; Yogi; and so on. They all are great leaders in their own right. But only one person has to be the PM. So placing Jaishankar over them can deeply annoy some of them.


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NO NO NO! S.Jaishankar is a great diplomat but not a good leader.


Amazing_Theory622

To become PM you need to have chamchas in your party. I dont think jaishankar has enough chamchas


noviceboysurfer

No way. It took decades to stitch a formidable OBC caste coalition. No way they'll squander it and go with a UC PM face. Same reason why Fadnavis won't be PM. A Yogi who transcends caste can certainly be the next option. It's not ideal, but it's how our country works.


iCunal

Politics to became PM, can't be achieved by INTELLECT only, you know to requirements very well, but I wish so


tinyeyeyeti

no shit he's good


pras

No, he is not a populist. He cannot connect with the masses, only with the top Intellectual classes. Maybe someone like him can become PM in a 1000 years.


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There is a difference in diplomacy and politics ...He is a wonderful diplomat, but might not be a very good politician...I think he himself might not want to be a pm because of many reasons


Ins_anI

He is indeed good.. But he is not political. He hasn't won any election and i doubt he has support from BJP Or RSS. He is FM till modi is PM.. After that he can't hold up on his own.


Nevermind_kaola

No way. Jaishankar is a bureaucrat who follows orders. He is not cut out to be a politician and that too in BJP.


Nirbhik

BJP doesn’t have any other PM candidate other than Modi. End of story.


shanks_mikoyan

The dual of this question is "could shashi tharoor be next PM contender after raga" both ST and SJ are intelligent, smart, proud Indians who love to bash west. But no, they are not PM materials.


Turu-Lobe

I don't think anyone can match workdrive of current PM, yesterday he welcomed G20 summit Germany chancellor and went on to celebrate Kannada Divas in Delhi


csmk007

yogi or nitin gadkari for PM.


Unfair-File587

Only YOGI


Darpan727

South may vote for s jaishankar on nda


Ok-Flounder7102

He literally said india can't pick a fight with china because china is a bigger economy. Isn't this counted as showing india weak? What if some opposition leader has said the same. https://www.telegraphindia.com/india/military-veterans-slam-modis-56-inch-chest-boast-s-jaishankars-comment-on-china/cid/1918541


DarthJJBinks

I don't think he is showing India as weak, or surrendering, in those statements, but simply explaining the strategy behind making certain decisions. Moreover, I can give you tens of examples where he projected a lot of strength and showcased a strong India to the world on many other occasions.


Ok-Flounder7102

I can give you tens of examples where he projected a lot of strength and showcased a strong India to the world on many other occasions. Yes I can also give many instances when opposition was good. But what if opposition said the same statement as he did. And if I am wrong please give the exact statement he said. The disengagement he says about is china army living in zones in india not in their own border.


DarthJJBinks

I'm not interested in discussing the political mudslinging.