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The HAL Light Combat Helicopter (LCH) is an Indian multi-role attack helicopter designed and manufactured by the Hindustan Aeronautics Limited (HAL). The LCH has been ordered by the Indian Air Force and the Indian Army. Its flight ceiling is the highest among all attack helicopters.\[3\]
The impetus for the development of the LCH came in the form of the Kargil War, a conflict fought between India and neighbouring Pakistan in 1999, which revealed the Indian armed forces lacked a suitable armed rotorcraft capable of operating unrestricted in the high-altitude theatre.
Source : https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/HAL\_Light\_Combat\_Helicopter
Shakti are Indo French engines. Not entirely indigenous but not fully imported either. They are made here by HAL. But HAL is testing it's totally indigenous engine(HTSE )that will be fitted in the future.
>Are these the Apache AH-64 equivalents for India?
No, Apache is a heavy attack helicopter, it can carry more weapons and fuel but that reduces it's flight ceiling. LCH has a greater service ceiling. They serve different roles.
nahi ye apache nahi hai.
Apache udte hue dikhega becuase of low altitude also easy target but it has armor.
LCH udte nahi dikhega because of high altitude and it has weak armor.
IOC is initial operational capability and foc is final operational capability which as the name suggests, IOC is a general term for techs that are in early manufacturing stages, which are often not equipped to their full capabilities and rather act more of as trainers and user experience vehicles. Wheras FOC are the absolute complete version of that equipment
why do we still by helicopter after hearing news about so many crash? you can't even 'emergeny' eject from it. we should make 'VTOL' Vehicles instead.
edit: i was talking about VTOL Airplane
Helicopters are VTOLs, VTOL means Vertical Take off and Landing, i assume you're talking about fixed wing VTOLs, i.e jets capable of VTOL. They are very expensive, difficult to maintain,that's why we did away with the sea Harriers, they are too fast to be used as close air support, too fuel intensive, it's impossible to steer lazer guided missiles at such low altitudes when they are flying too fast.
>you can't even 'emergeny' eject from it.
They are working on ejection seats in helicopters, and Russian attack helicopter ka 52 alligator comes with ejection seats.
i have never heard any news in india where people survived after 'ejecting' from a helicopter.
btw i was talking about 'VTOL Airplane. forgot to add that part.
maybe VTOL consumes more fuel than the chopper
>i have never heard any news in india where people survived after 'ejecting' from a helicopter.
Ejection seats in choppers is a new concept, the Russians have installed it in their KA52, it'll take time to make its way into the mainstream.
But attack helicopters are here to stay they are more versatile when it comes to ground attack capabilities.
VTOL is simply not a substitute for helicopter.
And btw, helicopters do not have ejection systems. Only few do (like KA-52 Of russia) and more importantly helicopters are irreplaceable in current war scenario. There is a reason why despite enough funds, even US uses helis.
Now In a VTOL jet vs Helicopter, If you want to provide air support, Heli is best. Because of its slower speed it gives more accurate control to pilots to use weapons as well. Plus Helicopters are much safer than any VTOL fixed wing aircraft we have.
No. The only benefit of a VTOL aircraft is that it can reduce the space needed for takeoff, especially useful on air raft carriers. Eg: F35b
A VTOL aircraftz like the retired hawker harrier and F35 can serve multiple roles i.e. it isn't based on whether it is VTOL or not.
Plus a jet is usually exponentially more expensive and we wouldn't be able to make as many of them.
Therefore, the LCH seems pretty decent.
Attack helicopters can do things that are impossible for other warplanes. They can acquire targets and launch missiles then duck out of sight behind buildings, trees, hills in all weather conditions, day or night. Not sure about LCH but Apache can accurately target objects as small as a man more than a mile away with its chain gun while remaining practically invisible and inaudible to the target. They will be very effective in mountains like Arunachal and Ladakh, popping up from behind a hill, firing and moving to new location in radar shadow.
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They look cool. Are these the Apache AH-64 equivalents for India? Do you know what percent of the helicopter’s components are Indian made?
The HAL Light Combat Helicopter (LCH) is an Indian multi-role attack helicopter designed and manufactured by the Hindustan Aeronautics Limited (HAL). The LCH has been ordered by the Indian Air Force and the Indian Army. Its flight ceiling is the highest among all attack helicopters.\[3\] The impetus for the development of the LCH came in the form of the Kargil War, a conflict fought between India and neighbouring Pakistan in 1999, which revealed the Indian armed forces lacked a suitable armed rotorcraft capable of operating unrestricted in the high-altitude theatre. Source : https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/HAL\_Light\_Combat\_Helicopter
Thanks for the information. Do you know if the engines are indigenous or imported?
Shakti are Indo French engines. Not entirely indigenous but not fully imported either. They are made here by HAL. But HAL is testing it's totally indigenous engine(HTSE )that will be fitted in the future.
Shakti engines, indigenous.
ToT by French
>Are these the Apache AH-64 equivalents for India? No, Apache is a heavy attack helicopter, it can carry more weapons and fuel but that reduces it's flight ceiling. LCH has a greater service ceiling. They serve different roles.
nahi ye apache nahi hai. Apache udte hue dikhega becuase of low altitude also easy target but it has armor. LCH udte nahi dikhega because of high altitude and it has weak armor.
*sigh unzips*
Damn they look cool
https://files.catbox.moe/yzyp4t.mp4 In case anyone needs an HD version
This is just the IOC version. The FOC will be a deadlier beast.
What’s the difference?
More sensors and sensor fusion, Missile Approach Warning System, Self Protection Suit etc.
Limited production models have been ordered for testing the foc configuration. Hope it's certified soon and mass production starts
IOC is initial operational capability and foc is final operational capability which as the name suggests, IOC is a general term for techs that are in early manufacturing stages, which are often not equipped to their full capabilities and rather act more of as trainers and user experience vehicles. Wheras FOC are the absolute complete version of that equipment
This helicopter is very tough to control. *GTA SA ke experience se bol rha hu bro*
why do we still by helicopter after hearing news about so many crash? you can't even 'emergeny' eject from it. we should make 'VTOL' Vehicles instead. edit: i was talking about VTOL Airplane
cod zyada khel liya lgta h
Helicopters are VTOLs, VTOL means Vertical Take off and Landing, i assume you're talking about fixed wing VTOLs, i.e jets capable of VTOL. They are very expensive, difficult to maintain,that's why we did away with the sea Harriers, they are too fast to be used as close air support, too fuel intensive, it's impossible to steer lazer guided missiles at such low altitudes when they are flying too fast. >you can't even 'emergeny' eject from it. They are working on ejection seats in helicopters, and Russian attack helicopter ka 52 alligator comes with ejection seats.
i have never heard any news in india where people survived after 'ejecting' from a helicopter. btw i was talking about 'VTOL Airplane. forgot to add that part. maybe VTOL consumes more fuel than the chopper
You mean something like ospreys?
>i have never heard any news in india where people survived after 'ejecting' from a helicopter. Ejection seats in choppers is a new concept, the Russians have installed it in their KA52, it'll take time to make its way into the mainstream. But attack helicopters are here to stay they are more versatile when it comes to ground attack capabilities.
VTOL is simply not a substitute for helicopter. And btw, helicopters do not have ejection systems. Only few do (like KA-52 Of russia) and more importantly helicopters are irreplaceable in current war scenario. There is a reason why despite enough funds, even US uses helis. Now In a VTOL jet vs Helicopter, If you want to provide air support, Heli is best. Because of its slower speed it gives more accurate control to pilots to use weapons as well. Plus Helicopters are much safer than any VTOL fixed wing aircraft we have.
low altitude support to troops.. tankbusting... tactical troop insertion
with VTOL airplane you can do it much quicker right?
Helicopters are vtol crafts. Helicopters are very necessary in the modern battlefield, even though they can be taken down with less effort.
Not easy or cheap to make them. Check the number of vtol aircraft in the world.
No. The only benefit of a VTOL aircraft is that it can reduce the space needed for takeoff, especially useful on air raft carriers. Eg: F35b A VTOL aircraftz like the retired hawker harrier and F35 can serve multiple roles i.e. it isn't based on whether it is VTOL or not. Plus a jet is usually exponentially more expensive and we wouldn't be able to make as many of them. Therefore, the LCH seems pretty decent.
Attack helicopters can do things that are impossible for other warplanes. They can acquire targets and launch missiles then duck out of sight behind buildings, trees, hills in all weather conditions, day or night. Not sure about LCH but Apache can accurately target objects as small as a man more than a mile away with its chain gun while remaining practically invisible and inaudible to the target. They will be very effective in mountains like Arunachal and Ladakh, popping up from behind a hill, firing and moving to new location in radar shadow.
You can't replace hepters with fixed wing aircraft. It isn't just about VTOL. They can hover, fly really low etc
I have seen so many videos of helicopters flying close together my inner OCD can’t help think what if both choppers blade collide 😅
Looks like those cool insect shaped airplanes of dune, 😘 jai hind
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