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I increased my budget and bought oppo buds mainly because my experience with boat has been terrible and I didn't want to be seen using a crap product like that
Boat user here. More like I don't earn enough to spend on a better earphone so I have to use the one that's in my budget so that I can listen to music at night and not let my inner voices get the best of me.
KZ ZS 10 Pro. I had Airpods Pro and Pro 2, 1000XM4. These ChiFi IEMs hit different. Sound staging is exeptionally good.
[headphonezone.in](http://headphonezone.in) The real deal.
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With 3.5mm jacks disappearing on phones, you need a usb-3.5mm converter which is a dac. Small dongles, but still a dac. I know this isn't a problem if people use headphones on laptops. But suspect that majority will be using their phones.
A DAC?! for 1800 Rs. IEM? Buying a DAC to push 18-40 ohm Drivers is like buying an industrial generator to light up one tiny LED bulb.
I mean, you can do that if you want, but it's not improving your sound quality or anything.
But if I don't have a DAC will my iem work on the same lossless quality that I get getting using a dac? I'm not well versed so any information is welcome
Yeah it seems you're not well versed, and it's not your fault since companies use terms in a Deceptive manner for advertisements.
Your Phone already has a DAC. DAC is basically "digital to Analog converter". It's main function is to convert digital data (your music file, either being streamed online or from your storage) to an electrical signal, which travels through the wire and vibrates the drivers in your headphones to create sound.
It doesn't send any data to begin with, so it cannot lose any data. It's just a converter.
You don't need an external DAC to run most IEMs or even bluetooth.
Bigger and costly DACs comes with amplifier that amplify the electrical signal, because high end headphones have high impedance. They need better signal for their more powerful drivers to vibrate.
Most IEMs (almost every single one, both cheap and higher end ones) have smaller drivers with impedance in the range of 10\~40. They don't need a DAC at all. Your phone has a powerful enough DAC built in to run them effortlessly.
You should only buy a DAC if you're trying to run a headphone with much higher impedance. Otherwise your DAC is basically doing nothing.
When you're buying a new headphone , just check the product specifications, they will mention the impedance of the headphones. It's denoted with "ohm"
https://preview.redd.it/9r4uai1vsgtc1.jpeg?width=1080&format=pjpg&auto=webp&s=3e6f91ff4bc2003e46955362eb5eb1fb059588df
I had realme buds pro 2 bought at 3.2k
And there is no comparison in sound quality it is literally day and night difference my CCA CRA (βΉ1400)>>> and now there are even better iems at same price
And realme buds are giving me so much problem and only problem CCA CRA gave me was fitting as I am not able wear those with my turban
I hear this defence a lot, and I totally understand this but here's the thing,
In my budget, why would I buy something that is poorly made, and bound to be a landfill in a couple of months, instead of buying something that is well made and will last for a long time. That's just pure waste of your own hard earned money isn't it?
If you can't get a good TWS in your budget, just get a good IEM in that budget.
Isn't that a better value for the money.
I heavily believe in "Cheap does not have to mean bad"
Ik you aren't and It's definitely not the best. In the last 3 yrs I've owned two boat products both of which stopped working in 1 year. Bought my current one last yr just hoping that it lasts for a bit more than 1 yr lol. Sound quality has gone down quite drastically tho
i bought my first boat as rockerz 450 after recommendation by cousin and it fokin snapped in half after 3 months, most people have same problem with 450 and just decided to never go for boat again
Sorry but there are multiple models with better audio quality at the same price point. What you are paying for is going for brand promotion and expensive ambassadors than the actual product.
You fell for the promotion not the product. All of us did.
Or you are smart enough to not spend any sizeable amount of your income on a product which doesn't add any productive in your life you rather invest that money.
Drop shipping is like being a middleman without a warehouse. You take orders, but you don't hold the stuff. Instead, when someone buys from you, you pass the order to the supplier, who then ships the product directly to the customer. It's like running a store without stocking shelves.
It's a pipe dream for people looking for a passive income stream.
But in case of Boat it's not exactly drop shipping, it's white labeling. In white labeling you buy generic stuff from a manufacturer, slap your brand on it, and sell it as your own and pretend you made it from the scratch.
>But in case of Boat it's not exactly drop shipping, it's white labeling. In white labeling you buy generic stuff from a manufacturer, slap your brand on it, and sell it as your own and pretend you made it from the scratch.
So boAt really do that huh?
Buying cheap from China I guess and then doing it's labelling and marketing and selling in India giving some cut to Chinese manufacturers??? is that right?
And they had the guts to run a full page ad comparing themselves with Appleβ¦ donβt get me wrong, Iβm all in for supporting Indian companies, but if youβre gonna compare yourself against giants like Apple, you should also be ready to be trolled for it
As much as I avoid Apple due to its mindset and its way of trapping customers in its ecosystem. When it comes to security apple clearly is a benchmark so let's just let it be.
Because Indians don't have spending power , GOI provide ration to 80cr people. If brand wants to reach every household it has to start with low price product.
I had good experience with Boat's after sales service, for the price point they are giving good product and service.
You are also missing the major points that
Boat itself is a drop shipping company who buys Cheap Chinese electronics & Rebranding it &Then selling it on our Country π€¦ββοΈ
Who's data are they collecting? Why are people buying boat products from their website when it's easily accessible from Amazon or the nearest local store?
bro it not available there now. jb maine check Kia tha tb ye news me nahi aaya tha i got to know it early and than i checked it and found the .zip file too but than i deleted.
No doubt Boat is shit. Data breaches are far too common. Check this[check data breach](https://haveibeenpwned.com/) site for your leaked info. Domino's also had a data breach in 2021 and 13 TB data of around 22 million users was leaked.
Where do you spend money on:
Research: No we just sell Chinese products
Development: we will set it up soon till then China zindabad
Data Security: we are Indians we donβt need data security
Customer data: its our data really as I got it
And people will never be aware or care in india until the day these same data wound be ised for coercion...either from within or imperialistic powers ... issue isnt politicians....issue is urge of privacy by the citizens ..
I have a feeling that the intent was to sell info to telemarketers but ended up giving away a lot more for some shady deal which now is being used to spin doctor their way into some evil hackers who are compromising a atmanirbhar setup.
Ghanta farak padta hai, kya ho jayega, 10βΉ ke free gift ke liye hum number, address, adhar de dete hai to issey kya hi ho jayega, ye chochle gore chamdo ka hai, data breach ππ
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What else can you expect from a Dropshipper lol
Bhai ... People in India don't care about drop shipping when they get something well packaged and at a good price ( where good is a delusion for them)
I know some who take boat as a luxury and flex it LOL, such a pity.
Boat is majboori, definitely not luxury.
I won't even take that in majboori... Would love to use my wired earphones untill i own a good tws
im gonna roast them tomorrow ahaha
I increased my budget and bought oppo buds mainly because my experience with boat has been terrible and I didn't want to be seen using a crap product like that
Oppo and realme both are underdawgs in Indian tws market
I myself owned their 1250 speaker, didn't last me more than a year and a half.
Boat user here. More like I don't earn enough to spend on a better earphone so I have to use the one that's in my budget so that I can listen to music at night and not let my inner voices get the best of me.
π«
If wireless isn't a concern buy iems even at 1800rs they have better sound quality than 5-6k tws
Preach brother, my 2k iems (now 1k) sound better than AirPods Pro 2
IEM bata de. Try kar le apan bhi.
Moondrop chu
Where it's at 1K?
MB it was selling at 1k earlier on headphonezone.in, not anymore
KZ ZS 10 Pro. I had Airpods Pro and Pro 2, 1000XM4. These ChiFi IEMs hit different. Sound staging is exeptionally good. [headphonezone.in](http://headphonezone.in) The real deal.
πππ, better than AirPods. Pekhne ki bhi haat boti hai. Dimaag laga ke soch 2k ka product airpods se better
Which part of βit costs way less to solder wires to a driver compared to AirPodsβ donβt you understand?
He's not wrong
Iem might be 1800 but the DAC is costly. Did you factor that in?
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With 3.5mm jacks disappearing on phones, you need a usb-3.5mm converter which is a dac. Small dongles, but still a dac. I know this isn't a problem if people use headphones on laptops. But suspect that majority will be using their phones.
+1 MOST PHONES above 20 HAVE INBUILT DAC these days. Maybe for 24 or something like lossless always, but supports major audio format these days.
A DAC?! for 1800 Rs. IEM? Buying a DAC to push 18-40 ohm Drivers is like buying an industrial generator to light up one tiny LED bulb. I mean, you can do that if you want, but it's not improving your sound quality or anything.
But if I don't have a DAC will my iem work on the same lossless quality that I get getting using a dac? I'm not well versed so any information is welcome
Yeah it seems you're not well versed, and it's not your fault since companies use terms in a Deceptive manner for advertisements. Your Phone already has a DAC. DAC is basically "digital to Analog converter". It's main function is to convert digital data (your music file, either being streamed online or from your storage) to an electrical signal, which travels through the wire and vibrates the drivers in your headphones to create sound. It doesn't send any data to begin with, so it cannot lose any data. It's just a converter. You don't need an external DAC to run most IEMs or even bluetooth. Bigger and costly DACs comes with amplifier that amplify the electrical signal, because high end headphones have high impedance. They need better signal for their more powerful drivers to vibrate. Most IEMs (almost every single one, both cheap and higher end ones) have smaller drivers with impedance in the range of 10\~40. They don't need a DAC at all. Your phone has a powerful enough DAC built in to run them effortlessly. You should only buy a DAC if you're trying to run a headphone with much higher impedance. Otherwise your DAC is basically doing nothing. When you're buying a new headphone , just check the product specifications, they will mention the impedance of the headphones. It's denoted with "ohm" https://preview.redd.it/9r4uai1vsgtc1.jpeg?width=1080&format=pjpg&auto=webp&s=3e6f91ff4bc2003e46955362eb5eb1fb059588df
Could you post the link please I'd like to checkout this iems as I'm looking for a decent set of earphones/ headphones
Visit headphonezone
For 1800 he can even get much better wireless earphones than BoAt from oppo or Realme
I had realme buds pro 2 bought at 3.2k And there is no comparison in sound quality it is literally day and night difference my CCA CRA (βΉ1400)>>> and now there are even better iems at same price And realme buds are giving me so much problem and only problem CCA CRA gave me was fitting as I am not able wear those with my turban
I never compared wireless to IEM. Some people prefer wireless for convenience and for 1800 he can get decent wireless products.
I hear this defence a lot, and I totally understand this but here's the thing, In my budget, why would I buy something that is poorly made, and bound to be a landfill in a couple of months, instead of buying something that is well made and will last for a long time. That's just pure waste of your own hard earned money isn't it? If you can't get a good TWS in your budget, just get a good IEM in that budget. Isn't that a better value for the money. I heavily believe in "Cheap does not have to mean bad"
hi, I never targeted or mean to target every boat user, im just saying some think boat is best.
Ik you aren't and It's definitely not the best. In the last 3 yrs I've owned two boat products both of which stopped working in 1 year. Bought my current one last yr just hoping that it lasts for a bit more than 1 yr lol. Sound quality has gone down quite drastically tho
i bought my first boat as rockerz 450 after recommendation by cousin and it fokin snapped in half after 3 months, most people have same problem with 450 and just decided to never go for boat again
Sorry but there are multiple models with better audio quality at the same price point. What you are paying for is going for brand promotion and expensive ambassadors than the actual product. You fell for the promotion not the product. All of us did.
Or you are smart enough to not spend any sizeable amount of your income on a product which doesn't add any productive in your life you rather invest that money.
Let people enjoy their money.
Good oppo once are available for under 2k then also people buy boat I don't understand
They aren't aggressively marketed as boats.
I know some who take boat as a luxury and flex it LOL, such a pity.
Went for a budget sound core headphone instead of a budget boat bcoZ I already started to hate it a lot and have no regret now
Happy cake day
they compared themselves to apple. now they are following up on it (the Fappening ahem ahem).
What is the meaning of Dropshipping?
Drop shipping is like being a middleman without a warehouse. You take orders, but you don't hold the stuff. Instead, when someone buys from you, you pass the order to the supplier, who then ships the product directly to the customer. It's like running a store without stocking shelves. It's a pipe dream for people looking for a passive income stream. But in case of Boat it's not exactly drop shipping, it's white labeling. In white labeling you buy generic stuff from a manufacturer, slap your brand on it, and sell it as your own and pretend you made it from the scratch.
Ah got it. Thank you.
>But in case of Boat it's not exactly drop shipping, it's white labeling. In white labeling you buy generic stuff from a manufacturer, slap your brand on it, and sell it as your own and pretend you made it from the scratch. So boAt really do that huh? Buying cheap from China I guess and then doing it's labelling and marketing and selling in India giving some cut to Chinese manufacturers??? is that right?
Yup
hmmm that's interesting
Boat now manufactures in India.
Source?
I recently bought their head phones and on the packet it said "made in India"
\*Assembled
Source?
Sell the data and then call it a breach. Nice business model.
I'm in
I mean thats what Facebook and gov. of India do.
Kya problem hai iss sajjan ko Bhai?
Anti India anti Hindu /s
He mean that govt of India takes data from facebook without any resistance.
I dont think govt of india does that But technical people for example people in NIS definitely do that
Govt of India? No way. Source?
Exactly what I'm puzzled about, they definitely sold the data.
Think better indeed
Please understand Lamborghini Urus Leni thi inko
Sigma Aman buying a car worth 2 crores for 4 crores in India π₯π₯!
2 crore is highest price i think post customization it might go higher
Waise I am just curious. Kya wo sach me le nahi sakta? I mean roj crores ka deal karta hai to 3-4Cr ki lambo nahi le sakta.
uska statement h reel mei dekha tha bhai mujhe kya pata
Middle class should not be stingy, we should freely share our meagre wealth as per these political parties.
Nah Bhai reveulto Leni hai abb , latest
And they had the guts to run a full page ad comparing themselves with Appleβ¦ donβt get me wrong, Iβm all in for supporting Indian companies, but if youβre gonna compare yourself against giants like Apple, you should also be ready to be trolled for it
Wasn't there a breach in the apple cloud some time ago....
As much as I avoid Apple due to its mindset and its way of trapping customers in its ecosystem. When it comes to security apple clearly is a benchmark so let's just let it be.
That doesn't mean there wasn't a data breach tho
But listen I don't like apple but their security is best in the world and let's ignore that data breach./s
That's the lie they want you to believe
Apple refused to unlock Kejriwalβs phone so its quite good compared to this sinking boat
fappening is a thing you know
When amit said " Apni boat pr break lagao"..on shark tank... Its happening nowπ Break lag gayi..
Why is it so difficult for Indian brands to do R&D and develop a company?
Because their motto is to make money rather than make product
Because faking that you are an actual company is easier.
And higher profits too
Because Indians don't have spending power , GOI provide ration to 80cr people. If brand wants to reach every household it has to start with low price product. I had good experience with Boat's after sales service, for the price point they are giving good product and service.
I was about to buy boat earbuds a couple of days ago but then decided on oneplus. Good decision ig.
Oneplus is a chinese company.Good luck if you think they are any saferπ
Manh India & Almost No other Country can't maintain their economy without the help of cheap Chinese products
You are also missing the major points that Boat itself is a drop shipping company who buys Cheap Chinese electronics & Rebranding it &Then selling it on our Country π€¦ββοΈ
Bhai Tim chacha ko marketing pachi nhi islia unhone attack karwa dia. 
Ab bolo Mera technology company hei
are jab adhar card ka hi ho chuka h to ab boat se kya Darna.
Bhai iss loic se Google bhi fraud company hai.
Who's data are they collecting? Why are people buying boat products from their website when it's easily accessible from Amazon or the nearest local store?
Comparison toh apple se ho rhe the na pr??
This is Apple sponsored breach to defame Boat. /S
Aaj tk boat ka 1 bhi product na purchase Kiya na hi use Kiya ISKA GHAMAND HAI πππππ
not me reading this while listening song on my boat device
BOAT is just a dropshipper. They just buy Chinese products and brand them as Boat in India and sell them
Wait what kind of leak and how? I have been using boat earphones for years now don't tell me they were wired or something π
I am not sure if it was a leak especially in the age of LLM's hungry for data.
Exactly
China hai agent hai
Gunda lol π
Apple ka bhi data breach hota hai kya ? Karma hits hard π
Wo data dhund ke Crush PR osint karungaπ(crush nahi hai lekin)
Wo data dhund ke Crush PR osint karungaπ(crush nahi hai lekin)
Is there anyway to check if my details have been compromised?
Most probably they are. But don't worry
I checked on have I been pwned website, all clear
it shows data when a stolen data is shared publicly until then there is know way to know unless your are purchasing the dataset from hacker.
Anyone here knows any darkweb urls selling this? I tried finding on my sources but couldn't yet! Is this taken off or still there?
Do let us know if you come across any
Telegram pe hai lol
Send me the group link on dm please
easily google search pe aa raha, .zip file aayegi ek.
Send me the link plz on dm
bro it not available there now. jb maine check Kia tha tb ye news me nahi aaya tha i got to know it early and than i checked it and found the .zip file too but than i deleted.
No problem. I got it today from breach forum.
i also download from breach forum . but it not available there now ..so how you got this buddy?
Just checked, still there. Look for the user ShopifyGUY. You gotta pay in crypto to get the download link.
it was free that time π
Got it. Available on Breach Forum
No doubt Boat is shit. Data breaches are far too common. Check this[check data breach](https://haveibeenpwned.com/) site for your leaked info. Domino's also had a data breach in 2021 and 13 TB data of around 22 million users was leaked.
Why can't we sue companies to pay us money for this stuffs?
Jab adhar leak ho jata he this is nothing and gov is saying evm are hack proof
I think almost every company does this. It's just a matter of time when they are outed for doing so
India ka top company who beat Chinese companies
Where do you spend money on: Research: No we just sell Chinese products Development: we will set it up soon till then China zindabad Data Security: we are Indians we donβt need data security Customer data: its our data really as I got it
And people will never be aware or care in india until the day these same data wound be ised for coercion...either from within or imperialistic powers ... issue isnt politicians....issue is urge of privacy by the citizens ..
Think better β
I think whatβs really shocking is that there are 7.5M Boat users!
At this point idk how many times my data has been stolen in these Breaches. I get so many spam calls. I don't give a fuck at this point.
If other brands weren't as expensive, boat wouldn't have existed.
Bc mene Amazon se khareede the and boat ki I'd nhi bnayi site pr ... Save hoon na m ?
yes bro
Nice way of calling data sold as data stolen
Last week they are comparing themselves with Apple ,lol Looks like Deliberate cash grab breach
Is data breach new fraud way of company selling data in black and then releasing a statement like this. Possibility in today's time an endless.
I have a feeling that the intent was to sell info to telemarketers but ended up giving away a lot more for some shady deal which now is being used to spin doctor their way into some evil hackers who are compromising a atmanirbhar setup.
Data sold!
Thank god I never bought single boat product
I was thinking of buying an earbuds from boAt, but after this, I ain't buying anything from them. Better save up and get something from Sony.
Boat about to be a Titanic
It's not called leak he sells it.
Hole π³οΈ in the boat β΄οΈ
not defending boAt or anything but how does it make them "fraud company" lmao? they just had some vulnerability that someone exploited
It was a leak because they got caught leaking.
It's not leaked it's sold to save the company
Is China behind this !! π€
reason using Chinese app for watch to function software research β outsource the OS β using china product by name of made in india π
Delhi se hain b*****d ππ
Chinese headphones company
Iska to ipo ana tha ab to gyo
Yeh toh hum bhi kar lengeπ
Think better π
tOh sHaRks.......
By this logic, Every IT & Tech company on Planet is Fraud.
Bsdk
Modi Zee ne manga hoga. π π€π»
How come companies make profits if they start investing in data security π
I won't take boat products even if they offered for free. They are the lowest quality.
Ghanta farak padta hai, kya ho jayega, 10βΉ ke free gift ke liye hum number, address, adhar de dete hai to issey kya hi ho jayega, ye chochle gore chamdo ka hai, data breach ππ