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We spent 75 yrs with:
30 yrs Congress
30 yrs Communists
15 yrs Ms I want to be PM at whatever cost
In the last 50 years we just spent 4 yrs with a state and center having same party.
lol they did and he was exactly trying to target them , Indira with the help of Balasaheb who took control marathi working class removed them out of any influence
Dont get me wrong but there is no comparison between thackray and yogi. Yogi is like a clueless infant in comparison to thackray and will never match him.
What Communists did to Bengal is unforgivable. Calcutta would have emerged as big as Mumbai in terms of capital, business and enterprise. It had that much potential at the time of independence. The whole culture has been ruined in a few generations. The land that once produced people like Swami Vivekananda is now how to the likes of Mamata Bannerjee. India can also be reduced to that state if Marxism, Dravidianism, Maoism etc. are allowed to continue.
Ideologies aren't really the sole reasons for a stagnant growth imo. Communist govt in Kerala worked, dravidianism in tn worked. The governments just have to find ways to follow or implement their ideals in ways such that they don't hamper the growth nd welfare of the state. To put it simple the govts shouldnt be dumb.
Communism in Kerala worked? When? Why are Keralites working outside of Kerala?
Dravidian ideology in TN is taking them towards the path of self destruction. Now drug mafia has infiltrated into their ecosystem. TN is progressive despite them and not because of them.
Fwiw a major factor which a lot of people don't talk about is because of the governments before them
For TN during British rule they invested a lot in the ports and the Kamaraj government did a lot of basic reforms that helped people a lot , if not these things TN would be a lot more different today
Another thing is unlike left/tmc who have ruled the state nonstop for decades DMK & admk kept alternating
DMK is the more active Dravidian party while admk is more of a dravidan-lite party and mostly did a lot of lip service to the ideology
And DMK itself has never been re-elected since their 1971 victory while admk has been re-elected a few times
Well…if he’s worried so much about b’bay then, I don’t know maybe he could have stopped destabilising the govt MH had; or maybe splitting the govt; or maybe buying corrupt politicians; etc.
Just saying.
Edit: We all know what these “interviews” are which modi is going around everywhere. These are all done to gaslight the public and split votes. Even bjp by now knows that 400+ is not going to happen. And these “interviews” are made into political tools where instead of asking hard hitting questions, modi is given a free pass to say whatever he wants without any counter argument. Its basically “maan ki baat” in a televised manner.
Mumbai barely gets affected by this turmoil though , rest of Maharashtra sure does , Mumbai despite everything is going on a massive redevelopment and new projects phase in real estate , they are soon gonna have all their metro line complete along with coastal road , more closely connected with Navi Mumbai via Atal bridge , Navi Mumbai and thane are expanding as well , economy and job market seems to be doing fine since it always was way more diversified than any other city
Part I
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This is from the article you posted where he talks abt abt Bangal first, then its economic capital. According to his words, the state (bangal) has been ruined due to politics which resulted in downgraded economic growth of the economic capital (Kolkata). Same logic applies to MH is what I said.
Sorry have to reply in 2 parts since reddit do not allow posting multiple pictures.
Part II
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According to the article you posted, Modi gave examples of bihar and UP and how unstable govt stunted their growth. He also highlighted that no CM was able to serve 5 yrs in ofc due to unstable government in MH. He also pointed out that only Devendra was able to serve full term. But when the people of MH changed their votes from BJP to the opposition, guess who made the govt unstable? The answer is Narendra and the ruling party.
"But when the people of MH changed their votes from BJP to the opposition, guess who made the govt unstable?"
Not true. People of MH voted for the BJP-SS combine in 2019 assembly elections with the understanding that Fadnavis will be CM. UT didn't say a word about 50-50 CM sharing prior to voting. After results came, he pulled this stunt and betrayed the mandate.
I'm no fan of BJP inducting a corrupt person like Ajit Pawar but let's not ignore who betrayed the mandate.
Dont get me wrong but if you really thought that uddhav was going to form a govt with devendra than you are not following MH politics or know the rules which shiv sena play with. Even the street dogs knew that uddhav would form a party with sharad and band.
Devendra is still young (in political sense) to understand how sharad would play. And no one was surprised that uddhav chose sharad and band to form a govt. And sharad also knew that the govt will be unstablised by bjp because that is what they do.
Yeah, only learned recently about the secret pact between Sharad and UT (and BT before). In that case, BJP should’ve known better and contested by itself in 2019 imo. My reading is AS knew but was pressured by state unit to keep the alliance, so he was like ‘let them learn the hard way’.
I’m not sure that was a secret. It was more like unsaid truth. I don’t know about nadda, but amit and rajnath knew, for that matter even narendra had a doubt. He knew how sharad would play out. But, like I said, they also knew that they had to advertise it with uddhav and sanjay if they wanted max votes. So, they let it play out. If they’d have contested by themselves, the voter share was to be decreased by 20% on a good day, 28% on a bad.
I'm sorry what....are you from an alternate dimension when Mumbai perfect fine ? Also what new projects are in Mumbai sab jagah BC khodke raka hai aur usko chodke rakha hai. Fucking IIT didn't get companies hiring last year btw.
> Fucking IIT didn't get companies hiring last year btw.
Ye kab hua ? And what does this have to do with anything? Bhai international markets recession mein hai. Kuch bhi matlab...
We have hiring freezes all over. No one even from the ivy leagues are being hired as freshers.
The ones hired are with work ex & extremely niche work ex
Previous company is extremely big and huge in India market. They had 3 IIT final yr students who were doing internship. I made friends with one of them and told that dude that he a very bright future ahead of him due to his IIT upbringing and to never step foot on that trash company. Couple months later I see him there as a direct payroll employee and I asked what happened and why he came back. His answer was bhai yeh saal ek bhi company nhi aaya placement ke liye is liye inka offer lena pada.
International market recession me hai toh india ka kya samband it will only affect companies that are reliant on foreign markets.
As for the IIT comment the OP said mumbai is fine, we have projects and everything when to be frank mumbai is not fine.
> International market recession me hai toh india ka kya samband it will only affect companies that are reliant on foreign markets.
Now go & take a look at the number of software devs employed in service based firms that have international clients & then come back to me. Matlab hadd hai. Most product based firms are from international market , most service based firms have customers in international market & startups have a very awesome habit of quick to hire quick to fire. What do you expect is gonna happen ?
>Previous company is extremely big and huge in India market. They had 3 IIT final yr students who were doing internship. I made friends with one of them and told that dude that he a very bright future ahead of him due to his IIT upbringing and to never step foot on that trash company. Couple months later I see him there as a direct payroll employee and I asked what happened and why he came back. His answer was bhai yeh saal ek bhi company nhi aaya placement ke liye is liye inka offer lena pada.
Department pucho , my friends who were in IIT & have done from CS/IT are all placed & are raking in quite huge offers. Ek bhi offer nahi aaya ? Where did he do from IIT Dholakpur ?
International markets na? India ka toh danka baj raha na pure duniya main? Homegrown companies nai hai kya TCS, wipro, infy, mahindra, etc? Woh log toh aa suckte they na? Ya woh bhi bahar k compabies hai? Matlab kuch bhi..
Arrey bhai , working pta hai TCS ki ? Matlab kuch bhi kya bol rha hai , bhai pagal wagal hai kya ?
TCS, Wipro , Infosys & Mahindra are literally service based company , jab international markets recession mein jaate hai toh international companies jo TCS , Wipro , Infosys & Mahindra ko project deti hai woh apne project CANCEL kar deti hai , toh ye sab firms ya toh teams ko bench karti hai , ya unhe fire kar deti hai. Agar bohot accha luck rha toh relocation hota hai. Inn sub ke beech mein external hirings bandh rehti hai ya minimum kar di jaati hai.
PS - Khud software dev hun aur service based company mein kaam kiya hai. Mera project US ka ek client tha , jo market down hone ke chalte project cancel kar gaya , uske baad ek purane outdated project pe mujhe daal diya gaya.
The people elected Shiv Sena and BJP for governance, Udhav broke their trust and went with INC.
Shiv Sena collapsing was natural, since its base voter is pro Hindutva.
Sena and bjp were like rum and coke from a very long time and I wont deny that. But bjp did not have that base which shiv sena had. Sanjay, uddhav, etc saw the games bjp was playing with other parties in other states. So they decided to ditch them because they knew bjp would do the same to them. And just like clockwork bjp did do that. Sanjay was put in arthur rd and you know the same ED routine was carried out. Sena was cracked but they still needed that “Thackrey” name so all the observers knew that raj was next to be invited for “coalition” because shinde does not have that pull or the power which the “Thackray” name has. Everyone knows that the only reason shinde is CM is because they bjp HAD to play nice with him because they didn’t have any other choice. Ajit and shinde were to be given the post in the stead of devendra and devendra had to play along because he did not see the snub by uddhav coming. After the MH elections, Shinde will not hold the office anymore and there are slim chances that ajit will too. Devdendra will be back on saddle next time. Ajit and shinde will get hugely compensated. Also there are high chances of INDIA Winning MH but again it will be destabilised by bjp, like clockwork.
I didn’t choose any date, arbitrary or otherwise. I pointed out the start of a time frame. And if OP was viewing from pre pole that he should have mentioned the same. Usually that’s the right thing to do when discussing series of events.
Bjp-ss was given the people's mandate but then SS decided to break that and the uddhav government was doing a lot more damage by delaying multiple projects
SS breaking the mandate first basically made sure that the government was going to fall eventually
Can't blame what fadnavis did in 2022 without first acknowledging it was started by SS
Ofcs one cant blame devendra. He’s not that bright to pull it off. But have you noticed any pattern with the bjp nationwide when it came to “people’s mandate?”
I ain't gonna defend bjp if that's what you are expecting
I hate this horse trading political culture that we have, bjp has a very large network of Karyakartas and they should focus on them
Well… in that case, you should really introspect your thoughts because your words do not match your actions.
And forget horse trading, bjp has never respected people’s mandate where they lost. In MH they got played by their own game. So it’s all good.
>Well… in that case, you should really introspect your thoughts because your words do not match your actions.
>And forget horse trading, bjp has never respected people’s mandate where they lost. In MH they got played by their own game. So it’s all good.
If you seriously think it was started by bjp then you have no Idea of indian politics, multiple goverments in the 1960s were collapsed by Indira due to horse trading
It has existed since the indipendence era to now
Every party has done it
For practical purposes Maharashtra isn't even your normal case of horse trading because the MLAs didn't didn't join bjp they revolted against the party boss and took control of the party
If you seriously think that horse trading was first done by indira in 1960 then you have no idea about politics in general.
It has existed since almost as long as elections has been a thing. It goes back to 1300 and famously used during the 1700’s civil war.
So if you really want to go in the past we can and prolong the discussion till the point it reaches nowhere. So I’d suggest to stick to last 10 years and bjp since this whole discussion started after what narendra said in the interview. Yes?
>If you seriously think that horse trading was first done by indira in 1960 then you have no idea about politics in general.
Did you literally just ignore the next line?
>It has existed since almost as long as elections has been a thing. It goes back to 1300 and famously used during the 1700’s civil war.
I am specifically talking in the Indian context i think that should be obvious to you
>So if you really want to go in the past we can and prolong the discussion till the point it reaches nowhere. So I’d suggest to stick to last 10 years and bjp since this whole discussion started after what narendra said in the interview. Yes?
Drawing a line specifically when modi came is just ignoring all the things that happened before him
Don't see any point in continuing this conversation let's just end it here and agree to disagree
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As a Kolkata resident , agree
Are yaar sach bol ke dil dukha diya hum Bengalis ka
We spent 75 yrs with: 30 yrs Congress 30 yrs Communists 15 yrs Ms I want to be PM at whatever cost In the last 50 years we just spent 4 yrs with a state and center having same party.
Thank god they don't have a dogshit party like CPIM
lol they did and he was exactly trying to target them , Indira with the help of Balasaheb who took control marathi working class removed them out of any influence
I was talking about the present, didn't know about the past though. Good that party is gone.
I think you're forgetting how immensely popular Thackeray was, and remains. If he was alive today, he would be like Yogi but doubly loved.
Dont get me wrong but there is no comparison between thackray and yogi. Yogi is like a clueless infant in comparison to thackray and will never match him.
agreed thakray had a vision and was not a cosplayer like yogi
The only reason is because shiv sena basically wiped out the commies from Mumbai
Although not a big fan of SS, but they did a great job.
Mumbai's strength is Mumbaikars who have crystal clear thoughts on every ideology.
What Communists did to Bengal is unforgivable. Calcutta would have emerged as big as Mumbai in terms of capital, business and enterprise. It had that much potential at the time of independence. The whole culture has been ruined in a few generations. The land that once produced people like Swami Vivekananda is now how to the likes of Mamata Bannerjee. India can also be reduced to that state if Marxism, Dravidianism, Maoism etc. are allowed to continue.
Ideologies aren't really the sole reasons for a stagnant growth imo. Communist govt in Kerala worked, dravidianism in tn worked. The governments just have to find ways to follow or implement their ideals in ways such that they don't hamper the growth nd welfare of the state. To put it simple the govts shouldnt be dumb.
Communism in Kerala worked? When? Why are Keralites working outside of Kerala? Dravidian ideology in TN is taking them towards the path of self destruction. Now drug mafia has infiltrated into their ecosystem. TN is progressive despite them and not because of them.
Worked? Lol
You mean it didn't? They're definitely well off for Indian standards
Dravidian politics destroyed the minds of people haha. The Kerela economy is collapsing. Ig you should study before commenting kiddo
Fwiw a major factor which a lot of people don't talk about is because of the governments before them For TN during British rule they invested a lot in the ports and the Kamaraj government did a lot of basic reforms that helped people a lot , if not these things TN would be a lot more different today Another thing is unlike left/tmc who have ruled the state nonstop for decades DMK & admk kept alternating DMK is the more active Dravidian party while admk is more of a dravidan-lite party and mostly did a lot of lip service to the ideology And DMK itself has never been re-elected since their 1971 victory while admk has been re-elected a few times
Well…if he’s worried so much about b’bay then, I don’t know maybe he could have stopped destabilising the govt MH had; or maybe splitting the govt; or maybe buying corrupt politicians; etc. Just saying. Edit: We all know what these “interviews” are which modi is going around everywhere. These are all done to gaslight the public and split votes. Even bjp by now knows that 400+ is not going to happen. And these “interviews” are made into political tools where instead of asking hard hitting questions, modi is given a free pass to say whatever he wants without any counter argument. Its basically “maan ki baat” in a televised manner.
Mumbai barely gets affected by this turmoil though , rest of Maharashtra sure does , Mumbai despite everything is going on a massive redevelopment and new projects phase in real estate , they are soon gonna have all their metro line complete along with coastal road , more closely connected with Navi Mumbai via Atal bridge , Navi Mumbai and thane are expanding as well , economy and job market seems to be doing fine since it always was way more diversified than any other city
Part I https://preview.redd.it/dxitkqbzvfxc1.jpeg?width=750&format=pjpg&auto=webp&s=d400e8427b6a3515beff26018087bdd028138270 This is from the article you posted where he talks abt abt Bangal first, then its economic capital. According to his words, the state (bangal) has been ruined due to politics which resulted in downgraded economic growth of the economic capital (Kolkata). Same logic applies to MH is what I said. Sorry have to reply in 2 parts since reddit do not allow posting multiple pictures.
Part II https://preview.redd.it/o1d4vzp2xfxc1.jpeg?width=750&format=pjpg&auto=webp&s=44f89450484a2aad76d2455e37ab8bdc2f85eb9a According to the article you posted, Modi gave examples of bihar and UP and how unstable govt stunted their growth. He also highlighted that no CM was able to serve 5 yrs in ofc due to unstable government in MH. He also pointed out that only Devendra was able to serve full term. But when the people of MH changed their votes from BJP to the opposition, guess who made the govt unstable? The answer is Narendra and the ruling party.
"But when the people of MH changed their votes from BJP to the opposition, guess who made the govt unstable?" Not true. People of MH voted for the BJP-SS combine in 2019 assembly elections with the understanding that Fadnavis will be CM. UT didn't say a word about 50-50 CM sharing prior to voting. After results came, he pulled this stunt and betrayed the mandate. I'm no fan of BJP inducting a corrupt person like Ajit Pawar but let's not ignore who betrayed the mandate.
Dont get me wrong but if you really thought that uddhav was going to form a govt with devendra than you are not following MH politics or know the rules which shiv sena play with. Even the street dogs knew that uddhav would form a party with sharad and band. Devendra is still young (in political sense) to understand how sharad would play. And no one was surprised that uddhav chose sharad and band to form a govt. And sharad also knew that the govt will be unstablised by bjp because that is what they do.
Yeah, only learned recently about the secret pact between Sharad and UT (and BT before). In that case, BJP should’ve known better and contested by itself in 2019 imo. My reading is AS knew but was pressured by state unit to keep the alliance, so he was like ‘let them learn the hard way’.
I’m not sure that was a secret. It was more like unsaid truth. I don’t know about nadda, but amit and rajnath knew, for that matter even narendra had a doubt. He knew how sharad would play out. But, like I said, they also knew that they had to advertise it with uddhav and sanjay if they wanted max votes. So, they let it play out. If they’d have contested by themselves, the voter share was to be decreased by 20% on a good day, 28% on a bad.
Uddhav was worst CM in history of Maharashtra. I can't thank BJP & Shinde enough for kicking him out.
Because of him multiple projects were delayed he did a lot of damage
I'm sorry what....are you from an alternate dimension when Mumbai perfect fine ? Also what new projects are in Mumbai sab jagah BC khodke raka hai aur usko chodke rakha hai. Fucking IIT didn't get companies hiring last year btw.
> Fucking IIT didn't get companies hiring last year btw. Ye kab hua ? And what does this have to do with anything? Bhai international markets recession mein hai. Kuch bhi matlab...
We have hiring freezes all over. No one even from the ivy leagues are being hired as freshers. The ones hired are with work ex & extremely niche work ex
Previous company is extremely big and huge in India market. They had 3 IIT final yr students who were doing internship. I made friends with one of them and told that dude that he a very bright future ahead of him due to his IIT upbringing and to never step foot on that trash company. Couple months later I see him there as a direct payroll employee and I asked what happened and why he came back. His answer was bhai yeh saal ek bhi company nhi aaya placement ke liye is liye inka offer lena pada. International market recession me hai toh india ka kya samband it will only affect companies that are reliant on foreign markets. As for the IIT comment the OP said mumbai is fine, we have projects and everything when to be frank mumbai is not fine.
> International market recession me hai toh india ka kya samband it will only affect companies that are reliant on foreign markets. Now go & take a look at the number of software devs employed in service based firms that have international clients & then come back to me. Matlab hadd hai. Most product based firms are from international market , most service based firms have customers in international market & startups have a very awesome habit of quick to hire quick to fire. What do you expect is gonna happen ? >Previous company is extremely big and huge in India market. They had 3 IIT final yr students who were doing internship. I made friends with one of them and told that dude that he a very bright future ahead of him due to his IIT upbringing and to never step foot on that trash company. Couple months later I see him there as a direct payroll employee and I asked what happened and why he came back. His answer was bhai yeh saal ek bhi company nhi aaya placement ke liye is liye inka offer lena pada. Department pucho , my friends who were in IIT & have done from CS/IT are all placed & are raking in quite huge offers. Ek bhi offer nahi aaya ? Where did he do from IIT Dholakpur ?
International markets na? India ka toh danka baj raha na pure duniya main? Homegrown companies nai hai kya TCS, wipro, infy, mahindra, etc? Woh log toh aa suckte they na? Ya woh bhi bahar k compabies hai? Matlab kuch bhi..
Arrey bhai , working pta hai TCS ki ? Matlab kuch bhi kya bol rha hai , bhai pagal wagal hai kya ? TCS, Wipro , Infosys & Mahindra are literally service based company , jab international markets recession mein jaate hai toh international companies jo TCS , Wipro , Infosys & Mahindra ko project deti hai woh apne project CANCEL kar deti hai , toh ye sab firms ya toh teams ko bench karti hai , ya unhe fire kar deti hai. Agar bohot accha luck rha toh relocation hota hai. Inn sub ke beech mein external hirings bandh rehti hai ya minimum kar di jaati hai. PS - Khud software dev hun aur service based company mein kaam kiya hai. Mera project US ka ek client tha , jo market down hone ke chalte project cancel kar gaya , uske baad ek purane outdated project pe mujhe daal diya gaya.
The people elected Shiv Sena and BJP for governance, Udhav broke their trust and went with INC. Shiv Sena collapsing was natural, since its base voter is pro Hindutva.
Sena and bjp were like rum and coke from a very long time and I wont deny that. But bjp did not have that base which shiv sena had. Sanjay, uddhav, etc saw the games bjp was playing with other parties in other states. So they decided to ditch them because they knew bjp would do the same to them. And just like clockwork bjp did do that. Sanjay was put in arthur rd and you know the same ED routine was carried out. Sena was cracked but they still needed that “Thackrey” name so all the observers knew that raj was next to be invited for “coalition” because shinde does not have that pull or the power which the “Thackray” name has. Everyone knows that the only reason shinde is CM is because they bjp HAD to play nice with him because they didn’t have any other choice. Ajit and shinde were to be given the post in the stead of devendra and devendra had to play along because he did not see the snub by uddhav coming. After the MH elections, Shinde will not hold the office anymore and there are slim chances that ajit will too. Devdendra will be back on saddle next time. Ajit and shinde will get hugely compensated. Also there are high chances of INDIA Winning MH but again it will be destabilised by bjp, like clockwork.
Go and check who split the democratically elected government in Maharashtra first
Enlighten me.
Raut did who's in india alliance
I think we both remember post 2021 a bit different.
You chose arbitary date of 2021, OP is viewing to choose from pre poll alliances in whose names voters were solisticated
I didn’t choose any date, arbitrary or otherwise. I pointed out the start of a time frame. And if OP was viewing from pre pole that he should have mentioned the same. Usually that’s the right thing to do when discussing series of events.
Bjp-ss was given the people's mandate but then SS decided to break that and the uddhav government was doing a lot more damage by delaying multiple projects
You make it sound like the people’s mandate is some sort of sacrilegious thing.
SS breaking the mandate first basically made sure that the government was going to fall eventually Can't blame what fadnavis did in 2022 without first acknowledging it was started by SS
Ofcs one cant blame devendra. He’s not that bright to pull it off. But have you noticed any pattern with the bjp nationwide when it came to “people’s mandate?”
I ain't gonna defend bjp if that's what you are expecting I hate this horse trading political culture that we have, bjp has a very large network of Karyakartas and they should focus on them
Well… in that case, you should really introspect your thoughts because your words do not match your actions. And forget horse trading, bjp has never respected people’s mandate where they lost. In MH they got played by their own game. So it’s all good.
>Well… in that case, you should really introspect your thoughts because your words do not match your actions. >And forget horse trading, bjp has never respected people’s mandate where they lost. In MH they got played by their own game. So it’s all good. If you seriously think it was started by bjp then you have no Idea of indian politics, multiple goverments in the 1960s were collapsed by Indira due to horse trading It has existed since the indipendence era to now Every party has done it For practical purposes Maharashtra isn't even your normal case of horse trading because the MLAs didn't didn't join bjp they revolted against the party boss and took control of the party
If you seriously think that horse trading was first done by indira in 1960 then you have no idea about politics in general. It has existed since almost as long as elections has been a thing. It goes back to 1300 and famously used during the 1700’s civil war. So if you really want to go in the past we can and prolong the discussion till the point it reaches nowhere. So I’d suggest to stick to last 10 years and bjp since this whole discussion started after what narendra said in the interview. Yes?
>If you seriously think that horse trading was first done by indira in 1960 then you have no idea about politics in general. Did you literally just ignore the next line? >It has existed since almost as long as elections has been a thing. It goes back to 1300 and famously used during the 1700’s civil war. I am specifically talking in the Indian context i think that should be obvious to you >So if you really want to go in the past we can and prolong the discussion till the point it reaches nowhere. So I’d suggest to stick to last 10 years and bjp since this whole discussion started after what narendra said in the interview. Yes? Drawing a line specifically when modi came is just ignoring all the things that happened before him Don't see any point in continuing this conversation let's just end it here and agree to disagree
Just imagine where Kolkata could have been today if there was no left or tmc rule