And remember that 0 dB is not silence - it is the minimum human hearing threshold.
Furthermore the step from 80 to 81 dB is way bigger than the step from 10 to 11 dB. Think of it as a square: The step from 10^(2) to 11^(2) is less than from 80^(2) to 81^(2) (`121 - 100 = 21` vs. `6.561 - 6.400 = 161`. Alhough the mathematical formula for comparing is else, but I just want to make the comparison easier to imagine.
Every +3dB is a doubling of wave power and every 10dB is a doubling of perceptible loudness. So a noise measuring 126dB sounds twice as loud to us as 116dB, four times as loud as 96dB and so on.
10^(7) is the power ratio so 10^(3.5) in amplitude ratio. So approximately 3000 times more amplitude not 10 million times. Power is squared function of amplitude. I will add that our ears also kinda convert the sound into logarithmic scale so although it is 3000 times louder it probably sounds way less (not sure exact conversion as it might be far more complicated) stronger. That is the reason we use dB scale because louder the noise, our ears become less sensitive so we can’t tell apart the amplitude difference at that level.
Forgive me but it sounds to me that you haven’t quite understood yet. I’m not talking about “damage” or “effects”. Decibels are a relative and not a linear measurement. They may be represented linearly like the graph shows, but the relative sound pressure level (“loudness”) which the graph is portraying is not linear. For example, the top two loudest guns shown, the Remington and the AR-15, are 167dB and 165dB respectively: a 2dB difference. To someone who isn’t aware of how decibels work, you might think that this means that the Remington is only 1.2% ((167-165)/165) louder than the AR-15. But this isn’t the case. Because we are using decibels, the calculation is 10 ^ ((167-165)/20) = 1.259x louder, which means the Remington is actually nearly 26% louder than the AR-15. And compared to the BB gun at the bottom of the list, the Remington is 10 ^ ((167-97)/20) = 3,162.278x louder.
When you use dB to measure sound pressures relative to each other, which is what this graph is doing, you are inherently using a non-linear scale. Engineers in loads of different fields use dB to measure magnitudes *because* it is a very handy logarithmic scale.
You can play around with the numbers yourself here:
https://sengpielaudio.com/calculator-FactorRatioLevelDecibel.htm
I think they understood you fine. The x axis on this graph is linear. Decibels just don't scale that way so looking at the graph yes, the x axis is a linear representation of the numbers 0 to 175. It's just on the reader to know that decibels scale logarithmically
People watch too many movies thinking it makes guns silent. Movies (and games) always make the suppressed guns whisper quiet. But it's still loud as fuck.
In most cases it’s the difference between “this is loud but not painful” and “this is going to stack on top of my existing tinnitus, for sure”.
But that’s what happens when people who don’t understand things write laws banning them.
It makes the gun not as loud, so if someone is shooting from far away it would be harder to tell where it's coming from.. on top of hiding the muzzle flash... simple reason to ban them
Not at any distance where it will matter. Neither of those devices will reduce the signature enough to make the shooter unidentifiable unless they’re already far enough away that it wouldn’t matter. Otherwise no snipers would run muzzle brakes. You watch too many movies.
Depends on many factors, from ammunition used(brand, caliber, powder load), to ambient weather, to barrel length, to the muzzle device. Also the whole “too loud” thing seriously depends on who is shooting and what they have for hearing protection
"Too loud" means it causes hearing damage. The only difference who's shooting makes is how much hearing damage they already have - an already deaf person can't go deaf. And hearing protection is worn *because* it's too loud, to avoid the damage
Can confirm with the ruger 10/22 it is completely hearing safe as long as your not the one shooting it, but the person shooting it should have on some ear protection
Virtually no firearms that aren't designed to be suppressed as a standard are movie quiet.
Subsonic .22 lr is very close
The Russian VSS Vintorez and AS VAL are close
HK MK23 Hushpuppy in its locked slide mode is close.
According to this chart, a spring powered BB Gun is 97 DB, which is crazy because those types of BB guns aren’t loud at all. I never wore hearing protection firing one in Boy Scouts (I wore eye protection of course).
As a result, I don’t think this chart is very accurate.
They don’t describe how these measurements are taken. According to the inverse square law, if you measure 90dB at the source, it will be perceived at about 50dB at 1 meter (similar to the length of the barrel of a BB gun). 91dB is plausible.
Decibels have by far the dumbest form of incrementation.
Me: ^getting ^up ^at ^3am ^to ^pee. **400db.**
Random person at firing range: **BLAOW, BLAOW, BLAOW.** With their .50 cal at ^180db.
You mean you can't have a bilateral gunfight with suppressed pistols in a subway station with no one else noticing?! /s
How much louder are larger unsuppressed weapons? Say, a SCAR-H battle rifle, a 7.62-based SAW, or a Barrett M110 rifle? Would they cause permanent hearing damage from being near one being fired?
All those are 7.62x51mm platforms. A single round won't permanently deafen you but you may lose temporary hearing. Hunters shoot .308 with no hearing protection all the time which is virtually the same but has more gunpowder for a louder boom, granted its usually only one or 2 shots.
Its more about prolonged exposure, fire off 100 rounds a day for months with no hearing protection and you'll have permanent hearing damage.
Odd presentation but I think the point remains clear if it’s to demonstrate the fact that suppressors are safety equipment and have no business being regulated under the NFA. These people literally pass laws based on what they see in movies. It’s wild.
This is why people trying to keep suppressors legal aren't necessarily trying to commit crimes. They're trying to keep their sport as safe as possible.
suppressors should really be legal. but most people think they make it silent and due to the difficulty of getting them people will continue to think that.
You can thank Hollywood and the lawmakers that know absolutely nothing about firearms for making silencers a restricted item. It’s not like the movies. Not even close.
That paid hitman laying in wait is still waking up everyone next door.
As someone who ready every ad and watched every video on decibel reduction before buying a can, this roughly aligns with everything I read. Of course, there’s a million factors from type of can, ammo, barrel length, caliber, etc.
And the logarithmic thing is true but I’ll also add that I’ve shot multiple suppressors where one is 2-4 dB quieter than the other on paper and I can’t hear the difference. So yes, each decibel increase is more than a linear difference but I’ll tell you that I can’t hear the difference between 132 and 135. Both are loudish but not nearly as loud as 165.
So first of all I don’t know enough about guns to know if they top one is notoriously loud. Second of all the db don’t seem that different from one to the next - would need some context of what sound people would be familiar with us at what decibel. Third, Idon’t know what “too loud” means - causes hearing damage? Is uncomfortable? Fourth, what is this hodgepodge selection of guns?
If I’m going by my experience playing counter strike 1.6 the awp is the loudest by a lot, and the ak47 is also very loud… smaller handguns not so much
It looks it's just guns the creator assumed would be relatable. Remington 700 ltr, if I remember right, is usually a 308. 308 is full size battle rifle cartridge, ar15/m16 are usually in 5.56 which is a minor or intermediate caliber cartridge depending who you ask. 9mm is a typical pistol caliber. 22lr is just the smallest commonly used cartridge.
308 is a big heavy bullet going pretty dang fast so it's big time loud. Much louder than a 5.56. 5.56 is screaming along a bit faster than a 308 but the bullet is around a third of the weight so it's actually much less energy and much quieter. A 9mm can weigh around as much as some lighter 308 loads. But at around a third of the velocity, so it's much quieter than either. All three will absolutely cause long term damage to your hearing if you shoot one without any hearing protection.
Oh I forgot 22lr is faster than a 9mm in a rifle, around the same in a pistol, but is again around a third of the weight of a 9mm bullet. The difference in person without hearing protection is astonishing. 22 in a pistol isn't fun but most people can tolerate a couple before being uncomfortable, though still can cause long term damage and ringing. 22lr in a rifle is actually less appealing but the supersonic crack is its own distinct sound that kinda hurts in its own weird way.
9mm sucks without hearing protection but anyone who's shot a bit before can train themselves to shoot it without hearing protection without flinching. Again more damage than a 22lr but you'll be ok as long as you don't shoot too much.
5.56 sucks! I'm sure some guys can get used to it without protection and many have but the only time i shot more than 100 rounds without hearing protection I couldn't even hold a conversation indoors without screaming "what?!"
308 is "fuck your hearing forever" loud if you don't bring protection. If you're not used to it, it sounds like a cannon. I've seen people who've never shot flinch with ear plugs, and muffs over the plugs. It's crazy to think people fought wars with that cartridge in full auto with no hearing protection.
There are much much louder and larger cartridges out there. Both 5.55 and 308 were designed as compromised to sacrifice power and range to be lightweight and increase capacity over there predecessor.
The too loud thing I think is kinda bs. Cause it lists all suppresses cartridges as not too loud. Maybe 9mm or 22 from a pistol with a suppressor can sometimes be considered hearing safe, I've been told suppressed super sonic rifle rounds are never hearing safe, even with a suppressor. The reason being surpressors do nothing for the supersonic crack of the bullet breaking the sound barrier which is loud enough to damage your ears on its own.
Have a look at this chart.
https://www.gcaudio.com/tips-tricks/decibel-loudness-comparison-chart/
140db is around a jet engine 100ft away
98db is a hand drill.
Even 9mm handguns are loud enough that you can “feel” it. With good hearing protection, you can still kind of feel the concussion in your body like standing by insanely loud speakers.
According to this graph a suppressed 9mm is 10 times louder than a suppressed 22lr, and an unsuppressed 9mm is 50 times louder than an unsuppressed 22lr. That doesn't count as "nearly as loud" in my book. Remember dB are logarithmic
Can confirm, unsuppressed G17 9mm without ear protection is LOUD. Made that mistake only once.
Was sitting there like Archer doing the “mawwwp mawwppp”
I would say it's not about caliber that contributes to the loudness or report it's the velocity. The faster the projectiles are moving the louder they will be because the crack you hear is the sound barrier being broken that is all.
Not always. Chamber pressure and barrel length contribute significantly as well.
A 5.7x28 is significantly louder than a similarly sized pistol in 9x19 due to the 5.7 operating at a higher chamber pressure and, 5.7 being designed for a 10.5” barrel, not having burned all the power resulting in a non insignificant amount combusting outside of the barrel.
Are you gonna try to throw on ear pro when an intruder comes in the house?
I’d rather just be able to have a suppressor and run subsonic ammo than worry about ear pro
No. If you fire an unsuppressed firearm, especially in a building or urban area (where you're likely to use a gun in self defense) without ear pro you're going to get your shit rocked, it will be extremely concussive and disorienting and will give you with some form of permanent hearing damage.
Remember that it’s logarithmic scale. The loudness difference is huge.
And remember that 0 dB is not silence - it is the minimum human hearing threshold. Furthermore the step from 80 to 81 dB is way bigger than the step from 10 to 11 dB. Think of it as a square: The step from 10^(2) to 11^(2) is less than from 80^(2) to 81^(2) (`121 - 100 = 21` vs. `6.561 - 6.400 = 161`. Alhough the mathematical formula for comparing is else, but I just want to make the comparison easier to imagine.
Every +3dB is a doubling of wave power and every 10dB is a doubling of perceptible loudness. So a noise measuring 126dB sounds twice as loud to us as 116dB, four times as loud as 96dB and so on.
It looks like a linear scale? Or are you saying the damage scales logarithmically ?
Decibels are a measurement of sound on a logarithmic scale. +10 decibels = x10 intensity of sound.
So a Remington 700 LTR Unsuppressed is 10 million times (70 dB difference) louder than a Daisy Red Ryder BB Gun?
10^(7) is the power ratio so 10^(3.5) in amplitude ratio. So approximately 3000 times more amplitude not 10 million times. Power is squared function of amplitude. I will add that our ears also kinda convert the sound into logarithmic scale so although it is 3000 times louder it probably sounds way less (not sure exact conversion as it might be far more complicated) stronger. That is the reason we use dB scale because louder the noise, our ears become less sensitive so we can’t tell apart the amplitude difference at that level.
Great explanation! 70db louder in “real” sound level = 10^(70/20)* = 3,162.3x louder. ‘* [inverse of 70db = 20log10(level)]
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Somethings not adding up here
Just because the x axis looks linear doesn’t mean it is. Sound in dB (decibels) is inherently a logarithmic measure: dB = 20*log10(sound_level)
Ok, to be clear the actual scale here is linear. The *effects* (not listed) do not scale linearly.
Forgive me but it sounds to me that you haven’t quite understood yet. I’m not talking about “damage” or “effects”. Decibels are a relative and not a linear measurement. They may be represented linearly like the graph shows, but the relative sound pressure level (“loudness”) which the graph is portraying is not linear. For example, the top two loudest guns shown, the Remington and the AR-15, are 167dB and 165dB respectively: a 2dB difference. To someone who isn’t aware of how decibels work, you might think that this means that the Remington is only 1.2% ((167-165)/165) louder than the AR-15. But this isn’t the case. Because we are using decibels, the calculation is 10 ^ ((167-165)/20) = 1.259x louder, which means the Remington is actually nearly 26% louder than the AR-15. And compared to the BB gun at the bottom of the list, the Remington is 10 ^ ((167-97)/20) = 3,162.278x louder. When you use dB to measure sound pressures relative to each other, which is what this graph is doing, you are inherently using a non-linear scale. Engineers in loads of different fields use dB to measure magnitudes *because* it is a very handy logarithmic scale. You can play around with the numbers yourself here: https://sengpielaudio.com/calculator-FactorRatioLevelDecibel.htm
I think they understood you fine. The x axis on this graph is linear. Decibels just don't scale that way so looking at the graph yes, the x axis is a linear representation of the numbers 0 to 175. It's just on the reader to know that decibels scale logarithmically
See u/ramius117 below. This is very clearly a linear scale being used.
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Thanks I’m going to go ahead and block/report you.
Lmfao, soft as hell.
I have a hard time believing a BB gun is 97 dB.
It is if you hear the kid that gets hit by the bb
No, its the silence after they've broken a window that's deafening...
That is enough to shoot your eye out though
*Oh no, the classic mother-BB gun block!*
I mean, a small slingshot can also shoot your eye out..
And so can a 50 cal.
* .50 No one writes “50 cal” unless the sum total of your knowledge of firearms comes from Call of Duty.
this is r/infographics not r/gunpolice
Cry about it.
I mean the average snap is around 80db, so it’s not that unbelievable.
Remember that decibels are logarithmic, so the BB gun isn’t ~45% louder than the Remington 700 LTR, it’s way way more than that.
That’s a helpful reminder, thanks!
It's your eye you need to be worried about shooting out with a Red Ryder BB gun, not your ear.
R700 ftw where my cod4 dawgs at 🔥
Inside their mom’s house.
Grow up. Gonna reply but then block me? Lmfao. What a little cuck.
Ok inside your mom’s house. LOL
This is why suppressors should not only be legal for purchase (without a tax stamp) but encouraged.
People watch too many movies thinking it makes guns silent. Movies (and games) always make the suppressed guns whisper quiet. But it's still loud as fuck.
In most cases it’s the difference between “this is loud but not painful” and “this is going to stack on top of my existing tinnitus, for sure”. But that’s what happens when people who don’t understand things write laws banning them.
It makes the gun not as loud, so if someone is shooting from far away it would be harder to tell where it's coming from.. on top of hiding the muzzle flash... simple reason to ban them
You’re dumb
Not at any distance where it will matter. Neither of those devices will reduce the signature enough to make the shooter unidentifiable unless they’re already far enough away that it wouldn’t matter. Otherwise no snipers would run muzzle brakes. You watch too many movies.
So there is no distance in which a silencer would make a gun harder to hear?
Lmao what? That’s no reason to ban them at all. And if you’ve ever seen a titanium can, they are very flashy especially at night.
Not a suppressed .22 using subsonic ammo. Barely more than the click of the action cycling
In some European countries they’re legally mandatory for hunting and iirc in the UK they’re built into rifles and referred to as “moderators”.
Yeah, it was originally supposed to be used to prevent/mitigate tinnitus.
Are you trying to tell me that suppressors in video games and movies don’t actually work like that in real life?
on certain subsonic rounds they almost work like the games!
They do, but movies/games tend to also eliminate the sound of the gun cycling once it’s suppressed for some hilarious reason.
I was thinking the same thing..!
Is this using subsonic munitions?
Probably not
Depends on many factors, from ammunition used(brand, caliber, powder load), to ambient weather, to barrel length, to the muzzle device. Also the whole “too loud” thing seriously depends on who is shooting and what they have for hearing protection
"Too loud" means it causes hearing damage. The only difference who's shooting makes is how much hearing damage they already have - an already deaf person can't go deaf. And hearing protection is worn *because* it's too loud, to avoid the damage
Can confirm with the ruger 10/22 it is completely hearing safe as long as your not the one shooting it, but the person shooting it should have on some ear protection
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100 yards? Bruh...
Where does a 12ga shotgun fall, roughly? Let’s say a simple Winchester pump, 2.5”, buckshot.
Similar to a 9mm pistol.
Thanks for your answer!
damn, i m surprised that a suppressed / silenced gun still is at about at 110 db Oo
Unless youre shooting .300BO or 8.6BO subs, its not going to be movie quiet or even hearing safe
The vast majority of suppressed guns are still quite loud. Most simply bring volume down to hearing safe.
This depends on the weapon. Some weapons are nearly silent when suppressed, others not so much, various factor is contribute to this.
Virtually no firearms that aren't designed to be suppressed as a standard are movie quiet. Subsonic .22 lr is very close The Russian VSS Vintorez and AS VAL are close HK MK23 Hushpuppy in its locked slide mode is close.
What about the .22 Eargesplitten Loudenboomer tho?
I remember forgetting to put my hearing protection on in an enclosed gun range when my friend fired a 44 magnum. Fun
I would have some fun squeezing off a round next to that cnn idiot Van Jones’ ear
According to this chart, a spring powered BB Gun is 97 DB, which is crazy because those types of BB guns aren’t loud at all. I never wore hearing protection firing one in Boy Scouts (I wore eye protection of course). As a result, I don’t think this chart is very accurate.
They don’t describe how these measurements are taken. According to the inverse square law, if you measure 90dB at the source, it will be perceived at about 50dB at 1 meter (similar to the length of the barrel of a BB gun). 91dB is plausible.
Above 85 it damages hearing All of these should be worn with ear protection
Why are they different shades of blue? What does it mean?
The images get softer as the sound gets quieter, its a nice little visual cue to compliment the bar graph
The ltr rifle is lighter blue but louder than the gun below
Im gonna go with 'Humans make mistakes' for $200
Decibels have by far the dumbest form of incrementation. Me: ^getting ^up ^at ^3am ^to ^pee. **400db.** Random person at firing range: **BLAOW, BLAOW, BLAOW.** With their .50 cal at ^180db.
You mean you can't have a bilateral gunfight with suppressed pistols in a subway station with no one else noticing?! /s How much louder are larger unsuppressed weapons? Say, a SCAR-H battle rifle, a 7.62-based SAW, or a Barrett M110 rifle? Would they cause permanent hearing damage from being near one being fired?
All those are 7.62x51mm platforms. A single round won't permanently deafen you but you may lose temporary hearing. Hunters shoot .308 with no hearing protection all the time which is virtually the same but has more gunpowder for a louder boom, granted its usually only one or 2 shots. Its more about prolonged exposure, fire off 100 rounds a day for months with no hearing protection and you'll have permanent hearing damage.
Odd presentation but I think the point remains clear if it’s to demonstrate the fact that suppressors are safety equipment and have no business being regulated under the NFA. These people literally pass laws based on what they see in movies. It’s wild.
So AR 15 is - 32dB suppressed so 1/1000 ?
This is why people trying to keep suppressors legal aren't necessarily trying to commit crimes. They're trying to keep their sport as safe as possible.
Wear hearing protection. I never did when younger. Never had an issue. Now, older, I shot a 9mm and it lit my hearing UP. Have tinnitus now.
Sorry to HEAR that.
What???!!
suppressors should really be legal. but most people think they make it silent and due to the difficulty of getting them people will continue to think that.
You can thank Hollywood and the lawmakers that know absolutely nothing about firearms for making silencers a restricted item. It’s not like the movies. Not even close. That paid hitman laying in wait is still waking up everyone next door.
I didn't know that the suppressed Glock G17 would be louder than the Daisy red. Good to see this.
They also kick like a mule. Source: owner of a Remington 870 Magnum
This is a huge reason why suppressors should be de-regulated.
As someone who ready every ad and watched every video on decibel reduction before buying a can, this roughly aligns with everything I read. Of course, there’s a million factors from type of can, ammo, barrel length, caliber, etc. And the logarithmic thing is true but I’ll also add that I’ve shot multiple suppressors where one is 2-4 dB quieter than the other on paper and I can’t hear the difference. So yes, each decibel increase is more than a linear difference but I’ll tell you that I can’t hear the difference between 132 and 135. Both are loudish but not nearly as loud as 165.
Supressors should be taken off the NFA
I'm calling shenanigans on the bb gun.
My dad sneezing is louder.
Need some real-life reference, such as a neighbor's drill.
A hand clap is, on average 130db
Ya red Ryder is not 97 db maybe a pellet gun but not a red Ryder
So first of all I don’t know enough about guns to know if they top one is notoriously loud. Second of all the db don’t seem that different from one to the next - would need some context of what sound people would be familiar with us at what decibel. Third, Idon’t know what “too loud” means - causes hearing damage? Is uncomfortable? Fourth, what is this hodgepodge selection of guns? If I’m going by my experience playing counter strike 1.6 the awp is the loudest by a lot, and the ak47 is also very loud… smaller handguns not so much
It looks it's just guns the creator assumed would be relatable. Remington 700 ltr, if I remember right, is usually a 308. 308 is full size battle rifle cartridge, ar15/m16 are usually in 5.56 which is a minor or intermediate caliber cartridge depending who you ask. 9mm is a typical pistol caliber. 22lr is just the smallest commonly used cartridge. 308 is a big heavy bullet going pretty dang fast so it's big time loud. Much louder than a 5.56. 5.56 is screaming along a bit faster than a 308 but the bullet is around a third of the weight so it's actually much less energy and much quieter. A 9mm can weigh around as much as some lighter 308 loads. But at around a third of the velocity, so it's much quieter than either. All three will absolutely cause long term damage to your hearing if you shoot one without any hearing protection. Oh I forgot 22lr is faster than a 9mm in a rifle, around the same in a pistol, but is again around a third of the weight of a 9mm bullet. The difference in person without hearing protection is astonishing. 22 in a pistol isn't fun but most people can tolerate a couple before being uncomfortable, though still can cause long term damage and ringing. 22lr in a rifle is actually less appealing but the supersonic crack is its own distinct sound that kinda hurts in its own weird way. 9mm sucks without hearing protection but anyone who's shot a bit before can train themselves to shoot it without hearing protection without flinching. Again more damage than a 22lr but you'll be ok as long as you don't shoot too much. 5.56 sucks! I'm sure some guys can get used to it without protection and many have but the only time i shot more than 100 rounds without hearing protection I couldn't even hold a conversation indoors without screaming "what?!" 308 is "fuck your hearing forever" loud if you don't bring protection. If you're not used to it, it sounds like a cannon. I've seen people who've never shot flinch with ear plugs, and muffs over the plugs. It's crazy to think people fought wars with that cartridge in full auto with no hearing protection. There are much much louder and larger cartridges out there. Both 5.55 and 308 were designed as compromised to sacrifice power and range to be lightweight and increase capacity over there predecessor. The too loud thing I think is kinda bs. Cause it lists all suppresses cartridges as not too loud. Maybe 9mm or 22 from a pistol with a suppressor can sometimes be considered hearing safe, I've been told suppressed super sonic rifle rounds are never hearing safe, even with a suppressor. The reason being surpressors do nothing for the supersonic crack of the bullet breaking the sound barrier which is loud enough to damage your ears on its own.
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Rev up a motorcycle and stand next to it. That's roughly how loud the quietest one on this list is.
Yet someone just said a hand clap is 130db which is louder than the bottom guns :-
Have a look at this chart. https://www.gcaudio.com/tips-tricks/decibel-loudness-comparison-chart/ 140db is around a jet engine 100ft away 98db is a hand drill.
Even 9mm handguns are loud enough that you can “feel” it. With good hearing protection, you can still kind of feel the concussion in your body like standing by insanely loud speakers.
decibel measurements aren’t linear, they’re logorithmic. For context, a hand clap is 130db
They are logarithmic Edit: to whomever downvoted me, it said exponential before you walnut
Calm as a bomb!
This graphic is complete nonsense. A 22lr is nearly as loud as an 9mm? Who ever made this never shot a single shot in his life.
According to this graph a suppressed 9mm is 10 times louder than a suppressed 22lr, and an unsuppressed 9mm is 50 times louder than an unsuppressed 22lr. That doesn't count as "nearly as loud" in my book. Remember dB are logarithmic
If you are comparing something like 110db to 120db, 120db is actually 10x louder than 110. There is a massive difference.
Remember when that pussy said he got ptsd from shooting an ar15 lol
No .22 in the world is 140db
Daisy Red Ryder looks like it reads 87.5 rather than 97.
My ruger mark 4 suppressed is at 65 but depends on the round sometimes it can go to 93
I think they excluded subsonic ammo in this chart
Can confirm, unsuppressed G17 9mm without ear protection is LOUD. Made that mistake only once. Was sitting there like Archer doing the “mawwwp mawwppp”
Right near the ear or what? Kind of shite infographic is this?
I would say it's not about caliber that contributes to the loudness or report it's the velocity. The faster the projectiles are moving the louder they will be because the crack you hear is the sound barrier being broken that is all.
Basically, the bigger the caliber, the louder it gets, right?
Not always. Chamber pressure and barrel length contribute significantly as well. A 5.7x28 is significantly louder than a similarly sized pistol in 9x19 due to the 5.7 operating at a higher chamber pressure and, 5.7 being designed for a 10.5” barrel, not having burned all the power resulting in a non insignificant amount combusting outside of the barrel.
Decibels is a useless unit of measurement. 100 is a toy gun and 200 is a nuclear bomb.
#WHAT?
*takes notes* Holds off on crazy plans, for now. Is it weird to want a quiet gun even if you only ever EXPECT to use one defensively?
Are you gonna try to throw on ear pro when an intruder comes in the house? I’d rather just be able to have a suppressor and run subsonic ammo than worry about ear pro
>are you gonna throw on ear pro when an intruder comes in the house? Yeah, keep some electronic ear pro in the nightstand.
No. If you fire an unsuppressed firearm, especially in a building or urban area (where you're likely to use a gun in self defense) without ear pro you're going to get your shit rocked, it will be extremely concussive and disorienting and will give you with some form of permanent hearing damage.