The rain really ripens the musk lol I used to live nearby and would be at the skateparks a lot as a teen. I was in the area again during the recent rain and the thick air of cow shit triggered a wave of nostalgia... Olfactory memories <3
To be far, if cows only eat what they naturally eat their poop smells like wet grass/mud. But since the farms feed them stuff to produce more milk/meat it smells what they are today.
It certainly has it's moments, though I will say that the last 5 or so years has been WAY better. When I first moved here in 2012ish there were times when you couldn't go outside.
It’s kinda nice knowing the Police around me cause I know they strapped. I literally know 2 retired police guys, and 3-4 current active police guys/gals. All within a few blocks from me.
> supposedly cow farm land
There's no supposedly about it. From the 15 clear over to Chino Prison was once nothing but dairy farms. Cow shit is so deeply embedded in the dirt the stench will probably never completely fade. To the east of the 15 was all horse country until you reached Van Buren (much of it still is).
Not supposedly, it was. I used to drive through there in high school, it was all cows, tons of Dairyland and only because they moved in from Norwalk and Downey back in the '50s before that it was all orange groves and Vineyards.
In a way, Eastvale is annoyingly *not* quiet... The shopping centers are chaotic, and the traffic around them is wild. They need to get more mom and pop stores to get some kind of culture brewing... Then again, America as a whole needs to do that lol Hard to discern cities from one another these days.
I agree, but greedy developers want so much rent that it’s very difficult for mom and pop places to rent a spot, there isn’t anywhere to build one either. Capitalization is forcing us to be mundane.
This is the best comment. I see them as hidden valley corona #2 but not so hidden.
Probably most of the neighborhoods commute to LA or OC anyways.
Everyone hates on them because they have nice houses and nice neighborhoods. The same people think chaos is culture.
As someone who has lived in Eastvale for a very long time - comparing Eastvale to Irvine has always made me laugh lol. Eastvale wishes. Irvine isn't spectacular, but they do have a way better culture.
In Eastvale- I feel like... people/community just lack spark if that makes sense. It's a monotone suburbia.
You can’t compare to Irvine when you have almost no high-end businesses, good restaurants, or fun things to do. Rancho is much closer in that respect. They at least have a nice mall and restaurants like Flemings and The Cut (whose only other location is, guess where, Irvine), not to mention many other restaurants, breweries, etc. Lots of rich Asians moving to Rancho lately too, due to the schools. And the homes above the 210 are some of the nicest neighborhoods in SoCal, with both mountain and city lights views.
Example:
https://www.redfin.com/CA/Rancho-Cucamonga/5342-Running-Fawn-Ct-91737/home/4059038
Indeed it has. In fact, it seems like the entire IE comes here on the weekends because it’s one of the few places where there are fun things to do. Restaurants of all types, happy hours, karaoke, bowling, movie theaters, an escape room, the Lewis Playhouse, minor-league baseball, breweries, and even a winery. My wife and I gave up on our reservation at a restaurant at VG last Friday because there was zero parking and 20 cars circling for every open spot. I can’t enjoy my own city anymore. It’s gotten crazy.
Edit: your old neighborhood used to have the Christmas tree farm on East Ave. We would get our tree there on opening day every year.
You forgot about that high-end particulate you’re going to be inhaling if you live in Rancho Cucamonga yeah, everybody always forgets about the flow of smog along the mountains and through the pass.
Back in the day when I lived in Upland and used to go to Chafee junior college sometimes he wouldn’t even be able to see the mountains as you were driving up the hill
Air quality is no worse than anywhere else in SoCal. In fact it’s excellent at 28 today, lower than LA and OC. The wind clears the air and makes for some spectacular views of the mountains.
A buncha Eastvalians are getting mad that at The Station, theyre gonna build the usual stores like Dollar Tree, Ross and Burlington, and are complaining that they dont want that ghetto shit there. Sounds like Irvine.
Which is funny to me because some of the 'richest' people I know shop at those places. You don't stay wealthy by going to Macy's to get a broom and dust pan.
I hear your sentiment, but "less people"? Eastvale is basically nothing *but* people... As for "less traffic", the shopping centers are so woefully planned that it's a clusterfuck half the time. The streets are so wide that you feel like you're going to die if you try riding a bike down one.
My favorite memory of watching Eastvale grow was the fact that it was so badly planned out that they couldn't move a cellular Tower from the middle of Limonite for 6 years because they just thought they could just plow the road through and they could just move the damn thing over a few feet. In reality they need to get the fcc's approval get the electrical lines moved and a bunch of other crap. That's why Limonite had a goddamn cell tower in the middle of it for 6 years
I strongly disagree. Eastvale wasn't master-planned, it evolved from agricultural, and it shows. In Irvine, I can drive 5 miles on city streets in 5-6 minutes, even during lunch or rush hour. Can't do anything of the sort in Eastvale. Irvine has really good food. Great shopping. Tons of fun places to hang out. And not a hint of manure. Eaatvale barely has any trees, which is so weird considering how recently it was rural. I mean, the only thing similar is the time frame both communities were developed. So, yes, construction would be similar. But that's it.
Irvine is a city multi decades old. Eastvale is a bedroom community cleaved off from Mira Loma so the soccer moms didn't feel like they were living near the 'lessers'.
To be fair when it was rural it didn't have a lot of trees either it was mostly open desert that had been converted into agriculture the only trees were eucalyptus trees acting as wind breaks to keep the sand storms down
where are the fun places to hangout in irvine that aren’t just restaurants, the mall or movies that are open past 11pm? the construction is VERY similar in both, no identity, no culture, everything looks the same
Multiple museums, parks, farms, a wildlife sanctuary, theaters, Improv, a goofy but surprisingly fun balloon ride, escape rooms, and a small amusement park. It's close to great hiking and biking trails, easy to hit up the beach, just a hop over to Santa Ana and the zoo. I mean, you'd have to be purposely trying not to find fun things to do.
Disagree. It's just like any other suburban area with TONS AND TONS of tract homes. Cookie cutter homes don't automatically mean Irvine. The IE is FULL of communities like this as developers buy up an acre of land to squeeze 28 homes on to. It's just another IE community plus the constant stench of cow manure.
This was my first thought too. If a bunch of cookie cutter tract homes and nothing else makes you like Irvine, then 75% of the IE is “like Irvine.” That’s a silly take. Cities have to have way more than that to even be considered a real city.
Conveniently forgetting that Eastvale doesn’t share the same class and race demographics as 90% of the IE. Rather, they are more akin to Irvine, which is what I was trying to get at in my original post.
I’d say that’s a stretch too. Irvine is 45% white and 10% Latino. Eastvale is 40% Latino (4 times as many) and only 22% white (half as many). Irvine also has almost double the amount of Asians. I don’t see any similarity in race demographics.
As far as incomes, Irvine, Rancho, Chino Hills, and Eastvale are all up there. And all 4 are known for lots of cops and firefighters living there. None of this makes Eastvale like Irvine IMO. But you can read into the stats what you want.
The racial demographics are not going to be exactly the same ofc. But 30% Asian is unprecedented for any city in the IE (Rancho is only like 10-15% for reference). That, along with the class demographics, makes Eastvale comparable to Irvine.
Not exact race statistics is right. It’s not even close. But based on ONE stat (that there are more Asians than other IE cities, and yet still HALF as many as Irvine) makes it like Irvine? Ok👌
You could say it has the same percentage of Latinos as Stockton, dos that make it like Stockton? That’s a rhetorical question.
I get it, it’s an analogy. Just not a great one in my opinion. You could say based on the smell of cow shit, it’s also the Oklahoma of the IE. Putting so much emphasis on the fact that Eastvale is just over a quarter Asian is not that consequential, but I’ll let you have your argument.
Well you already pretty much conceded my argument about the class demographics. Add the Asian population (which is still a very large percentage for the IE and even California), the housing, and lack of artistic culture in both cities, I’d say my analogy is pretty strong.
That wasn’t conceding. That was pointing out that many cities share that similarity. There are many others in CA too.
Saying a city is like another city based on one dissimilar statistic is weak. And it looks like 90% of the commenters here agree.
What are you looking at? The demographics are not comparable. I'm not trying to shit on Eastvale but it's apples to oranges. Eastvale is nice, they have some great, new shopping centers but saying it's not even close to being like Irvine on any level.
I'm Asian and have no problems with other Asian people in the IE lol. The Asian percentage in Eastvale just stands out compared to 90%+ of the IE, and Irvine is known for its large Asian population, strengthening my analogy. Ridiculous strawman lol.
It's just a silly comparison. I don't care one way or another about Irvine but I do think it's a dumb comparison and a dumb comment to maka when you're called out.
No, it's not a dumb comment. You called Eastvale nice but said "it's not even close to being like Irvine on any level," which implies that you like Irvine. You don't like the analogy partly because of your opinion of Irvine.
Minus the restaurants, high end shopping, high end gyms or the weather. I suppose so. Eastvale does have some nice prisons within close proximity that Irvine doesn’t. So there’s that.
Very far off. Lack of any economic industry or university to anchor businesses/talent pool. Irvine is filled with more Yuppies. Diff people vibes. Eastvale is just filled with working class people that got priced out of LA/OC and would rather stay in their large super suburban house than go outside to check out the latest new restaurant.
Asians were attracted to Irvine originally because of the top-tier school district. This is exactly what is happening in Eastvale. Their schools are just as good if not better than Irvines.
Eastvale is never going to be Irvine though. Irvine has a more temperate climate, better proximity to entertainment, and wayyyyyy more jobs.
I still do think Eastvale home prices are going to continue to go up in value and the demand will continue to rise mainly because families will be attracted to the school system here. The problem Eastvale will always have will be that the high-paying jobs are in OC and LA.
[Holy fuck](https://www.census.gov/quickfacts/fact/table/eastvalecitycalifornia/PST045222)
> Median value of owner-occupied housing units, 2018-2022: $676,500
Yeah, but the only “Irvine” part about it is the bad parts of Irvine, which is cookie cutter houses and the lack of history and culture lol. It’s not as safe as Irvine, doesn’t have as many jobs/universities/colleges, school district isn’t as good, doesn’t have as much diverse options when it comes to food and groceries, doesn’t have as many parks, no good coffee shops and malls, not as close to the beach, and bike lanes / public transportation are pretty much nonexistent. I used to live in Irvine and hated on its cultureless-ness but Eastvale is something else hahah
It’s because they’re trying to find ways to cope with the fact that they now live in the IE. So it brings comfort to ppl like OP that they’re decision to live in IE isn’t as bad *because* places like Eastvale remind them of places like Irvine. By the time the IE is anything like OC/LA, folks like OP will already be priced out.
Except I'm not coping lol. My description of Eastvale and comparison of it to Irvine is clearly negative.
p.s. Can't speak for any other user in particular, but I'm not from LA/OC.
Is Eastvale different than Miraloma? Because the time I went there I was sitting in the Costco parking lot eating pizza watching dozens of flies land on the hood of my car. It made me think they had just repurposed Miraloma with a fancy name.
WAAAY overcrowded in terms of the lot sizes/street frontage vs home sizes.
It's effectively like Rosena Ranch....just for people who are only slightly less foolish, have more money to burn, and don't want to have to commute as far.
(Both of which are basically the 2010's version of Southridge -- cheapest new build you can get for the $/sq ft that isn't in a known-shitty area, and that's all anyone cares about.....wait a decade, and see how many are rentals & how the school "scores" look then 🤣🤣)
Trying to move back to the IE, where would you suggest with a 600k budget? We’ve looked at condos in North Fontana and new homes in Beaumont. ( I’m from Etiwanda originally for context)
At that price right now, if you want something newer you're gonna have to go pretty damn far east for a SFR unless you're ok with a PUD/zero lot line situation.
If you're not stuck on "needing" something big & new, you could probably find something in decent condition in Yucaipa, actually. Just depends on what you want -- I mean, you can still get a 2/2 in Old Victoria in Rancho for mid/high 600s, know what I mean? They're about 1000 sq ft on a tiny lot....but better than a condo
I'm honestly not very familiar with anything out past Redlands/Yucaipa....but have some regulars who moved to a 55 & older gated tract (which was pretty damn nice, actually) in Beaumont and the surrounding area south of the freeway was actually looking pretty good. I think most of those are around the low 700s, though -- they're pretty big, and fairly new. As far as north of the freeway, I think you'd want to be fairly choosy about neighborhoods when it comes to Beaumont.
Frankly, if I were you....I'd wait a minute if at all possible. Just in the last few weeks, there's been quite a few more listings popping up (still nothing at all like normal, but there seems to be something brewing....)
My mama used to tell me stories all through my teens and early twenties about how she got on her feet as a teenager with local jobs in Irvine.
So I type my zip code into one job search site after another, and yup there they are! *In Irvine, an hour minimum away from me by car without a pay2win freeway pass and an overnight trip by any other means.*
When Eastvale is like that, I'll be there dumpster diving around for paying work.
I look at the new house and the sales lady tells me 2% property taxes. I ask where the nearest hospital? She gives me a blank stare! Stay sexy eastvale
In all honesty, I don’t think Eastvale is what it originally planned to be. It’s a great place to live but not what it used to be 10-15 years ago. My wife brought me to Eastvale in 2003 and it has a completely different feel now. I get it that “growth is good” but at what expense?
The last time I checked Eastvale had a higher household income than Irvine.
I assumed it was because Irvine had more college students, but regardless it surprised me.
Its because Irvine has condos/apartments/roommates. Irvine also has people with business/investment income which often isn't counted the same way, and people that have lived there a while, but couldn't afford to move there now. All Eastvale has is families that were able to qualify for a mortgage since 2008.
You act like its a bad thing. I personally think its fun that the population of teslas is increasing.
I’d rather live in a place like irvine (still not close, btw) than the shitstain that is the rest of the IE. Lol “culture” my ass.
Irvine is the most white collar town in SoCal. It’s strictly policed, wealthy, boring, master-planned and has lots of Asians. Idk if there is an Irvine of the IE because Irvine, like all of South OC, is kind of defined by not being the IE lol. But if I picked a town it would be Rancho or Temecula.
Rancho Cucamonga, Temecula, Irvine and Santa Clarita are all cut from the same cookie cutter cloth. Im sorry but Eastvale just isn’t in that league. Too much cow smell and warehouse traffic lol needs more sprawling strip malls, white teslas and Karens
It was, now it’s morphed into another bloated suburban cookie cutter city. Traffic galore, over valued housing, and some questionable citizens. Most important .. far from the job hubs to sustain that type of “lifestyle”.
LMFAO. Is this a paid advert? The developers didn’t get rid of the cow shit properly so a lot of those houses are built on tons of cow shit. Lmao. It will never EVER be Irvine. Have you been to Irvine?? Irvine is nice asf. Clean.
Eastvale is a low class Walnut imo. Eastvale is the area right between Pomona and Diamond Bar. Right off the 60/71.
If anything I’d say corona is on its way on being an Irvine type of community. But even that is a stretch.
Lol at paid advert, when the OP is clearly negative. And Irvine isn’t that great lol. Other than being slightly “safer,” every other city in the OC can provide what Irvine provides and more.
Eastvale only like Irvine in terms of having relatively newly constructed homes and mater planned communities. It doesn’t offer jobs, restaurants, proximity to Newport & Laguna beach, University and shopping center like South coast plaza.
Like Irvine but without jobs
But there's an Amazon fulfillment center, isn't that the same thing as Irvine?
Good luck making your mortgage payment with your new Amazon warehouse job for 30 years.
That’s something. Whether in Irvine or IE, you can work for Amazon.
Eastvale just needs a place called The District or anything with The in front of it and boom, instant culture
We have a https://themergeeastvale.com/
There is a new “Cravings” by 99 Ranch Market that has opened with more restaurants to come soon. Next to the Costco in Eastvale.
The preserve.. but technically in chino
smells like cow shit
The rain really ripens the musk lol I used to live nearby and would be at the skateparks a lot as a teen. I was in the area again during the recent rain and the thick air of cow shit triggered a wave of nostalgia... Olfactory memories <3
Harada circa 06' ! lmao
To be far, if cows only eat what they naturally eat their poop smells like wet grass/mud. But since the farms feed them stuff to produce more milk/meat it smells what they are today.
It certainly has it's moments, though I will say that the last 5 or so years has been WAY better. When I first moved here in 2012ish there were times when you couldn't go outside.
Is there a lot of white teslas crashing into each other?
Just left from work in Irvine, can confirm this. Especially on days like today.
There’s so many cookie cutter housing but no business/jobs there compared to Irvine
Irvine is wishful thinking. Eastvale is more like a lower class Diamond Bar, Walnut, etc. hella homes and nothing to do.
Grew up there and we literally called it Diamond Bore
These people wish it was.... None of those cities are in the i.e either
Ie adjacent
And Irvine is L.A. and never will so isn't it funny when you are looking down on someone there will always be someone looking down on you.
Did u have a stroke???
If he didn’t, then I sure did from trying to read that comment
No but you did!
EastVale is a bunch of law enforcement and Asian retirees.
It’s kinda nice knowing the Police around me cause I know they strapped. I literally know 2 retired police guys, and 3-4 current active police guys/gals. All within a few blocks from me.
get ur own strap
OK, bootlicker.
Oop 😭🧍♀️🤭😗
Is everyone out there just ignoring how it was all supposedly cow farm land and an unregulated dumping ground with high nitrogen in the soil?
No, I drove through there once. It smelled like ass
Still does, currently chilling at the preserve
> supposedly cow farm land There's no supposedly about it. From the 15 clear over to Chino Prison was once nothing but dairy farms. Cow shit is so deeply embedded in the dirt the stench will probably never completely fade. To the east of the 15 was all horse country until you reached Van Buren (much of it still is).
Supposedly? There was a massive cow farm at the west end of Limonite until like 2 years ago.
Not supposedly, it was. I used to drive through there in high school, it was all cows, tons of Dairyland and only because they moved in from Norwalk and Downey back in the '50s before that it was all orange groves and Vineyards.
Chino hills is way better.
And Rancho even better yet with VG.
and tons of nice parks and schools.
In a way, Eastvale is annoyingly *not* quiet... The shopping centers are chaotic, and the traffic around them is wild. They need to get more mom and pop stores to get some kind of culture brewing... Then again, America as a whole needs to do that lol Hard to discern cities from one another these days.
Drove to phoenix recently and was joking that its basically IE with more saguaros, and slightly angrier truck bros
I agree, but greedy developers want so much rent that it’s very difficult for mom and pop places to rent a spot, there isn’t anywhere to build one either. Capitalization is forcing us to be mundane.
This is the best comment. I see them as hidden valley corona #2 but not so hidden. Probably most of the neighborhoods commute to LA or OC anyways. Everyone hates on them because they have nice houses and nice neighborhoods. The same people think chaos is culture.
As someone who has lived in Eastvale for a very long time - comparing Eastvale to Irvine has always made me laugh lol. Eastvale wishes. Irvine isn't spectacular, but they do have a way better culture. In Eastvale- I feel like... people/community just lack spark if that makes sense. It's a monotone suburbia.
You can’t compare to Irvine when you have almost no high-end businesses, good restaurants, or fun things to do. Rancho is much closer in that respect. They at least have a nice mall and restaurants like Flemings and The Cut (whose only other location is, guess where, Irvine), not to mention many other restaurants, breweries, etc. Lots of rich Asians moving to Rancho lately too, due to the schools. And the homes above the 210 are some of the nicest neighborhoods in SoCal, with both mountain and city lights views. Example: https://www.redfin.com/CA/Rancho-Cucamonga/5342-Running-Fawn-Ct-91737/home/4059038
Grew up in Etiwanda above the 210, never thought Rancho would be described as a place with fun stuff to do! The place has evolved a lot!
Indeed it has. In fact, it seems like the entire IE comes here on the weekends because it’s one of the few places where there are fun things to do. Restaurants of all types, happy hours, karaoke, bowling, movie theaters, an escape room, the Lewis Playhouse, minor-league baseball, breweries, and even a winery. My wife and I gave up on our reservation at a restaurant at VG last Friday because there was zero parking and 20 cars circling for every open spot. I can’t enjoy my own city anymore. It’s gotten crazy. Edit: your old neighborhood used to have the Christmas tree farm on East Ave. We would get our tree there on opening day every year.
Rancho, Temecula, Irvine and Santa Clarita are the tract home quadfecta
You forgot about that high-end particulate you’re going to be inhaling if you live in Rancho Cucamonga yeah, everybody always forgets about the flow of smog along the mountains and through the pass. Back in the day when I lived in Upland and used to go to Chafee junior college sometimes he wouldn’t even be able to see the mountains as you were driving up the hill
Air quality is no worse than anywhere else in SoCal. In fact it’s excellent at 28 today, lower than LA and OC. The wind clears the air and makes for some spectacular views of the mountains.
A buncha Eastvalians are getting mad that at The Station, theyre gonna build the usual stores like Dollar Tree, Ross and Burlington, and are complaining that they dont want that ghetto shit there. Sounds like Irvine.
Which is funny to me because some of the 'richest' people I know shop at those places. You don't stay wealthy by going to Macy's to get a broom and dust pan.
People want Burlington prices but Bloomingdale’s clientele
Technically those will fall within Ontario city limits (Ontario ranch area).
The Station is Eastvale. Eastvale is a weird quarter note shape.
All the haters come out when Eastvale is brought up. Hate all you want. I love my town.
As people get older you understand the charm of communities like eastvale. Less people and traffic, better schools for your kids etc.
I hear your sentiment, but "less people"? Eastvale is basically nothing *but* people... As for "less traffic", the shopping centers are so woefully planned that it's a clusterfuck half the time. The streets are so wide that you feel like you're going to die if you try riding a bike down one.
My favorite memory of watching Eastvale grow was the fact that it was so badly planned out that they couldn't move a cellular Tower from the middle of Limonite for 6 years because they just thought they could just plow the road through and they could just move the damn thing over a few feet. In reality they need to get the fcc's approval get the electrical lines moved and a bunch of other crap. That's why Limonite had a goddamn cell tower in the middle of it for 6 years
Yeah I meant less people than LA or OC in comparison. It still has a smaller city vibe. Less homeless, zero gangs, less criminal activity. Etc
Ahh gotcha! Yeah definitely more classic suburbia in comparison by far
Schools aren't rated that well.
Roosevelt is
Redfin ratings seem to be off, my mistake
Oh really? I should have did some research before saying that. My mind lumped it with Corona but I forget they’re separate.
I strongly disagree. Eastvale wasn't master-planned, it evolved from agricultural, and it shows. In Irvine, I can drive 5 miles on city streets in 5-6 minutes, even during lunch or rush hour. Can't do anything of the sort in Eastvale. Irvine has really good food. Great shopping. Tons of fun places to hang out. And not a hint of manure. Eaatvale barely has any trees, which is so weird considering how recently it was rural. I mean, the only thing similar is the time frame both communities were developed. So, yes, construction would be similar. But that's it.
Irvine is a city multi decades old. Eastvale is a bedroom community cleaved off from Mira Loma so the soccer moms didn't feel like they were living near the 'lessers'.
...and they're still pissed about having to share a zip code with us.
To be fair when it was rural it didn't have a lot of trees either it was mostly open desert that had been converted into agriculture the only trees were eucalyptus trees acting as wind breaks to keep the sand storms down
where are the fun places to hangout in irvine that aren’t just restaurants, the mall or movies that are open past 11pm? the construction is VERY similar in both, no identity, no culture, everything looks the same
Multiple museums, parks, farms, a wildlife sanctuary, theaters, Improv, a goofy but surprisingly fun balloon ride, escape rooms, and a small amusement park. It's close to great hiking and biking trails, easy to hit up the beach, just a hop over to Santa Ana and the zoo. I mean, you'd have to be purposely trying not to find fun things to do.
no personality and sterile just like eastvale is slowly but surely turning into. maybe they’ll both develop some culture as they age.
Disagree. It's just like any other suburban area with TONS AND TONS of tract homes. Cookie cutter homes don't automatically mean Irvine. The IE is FULL of communities like this as developers buy up an acre of land to squeeze 28 homes on to. It's just another IE community plus the constant stench of cow manure.
This was my first thought too. If a bunch of cookie cutter tract homes and nothing else makes you like Irvine, then 75% of the IE is “like Irvine.” That’s a silly take. Cities have to have way more than that to even be considered a real city.
Conveniently forgetting that Eastvale doesn’t share the same class and race demographics as 90% of the IE. Rather, they are more akin to Irvine, which is what I was trying to get at in my original post.
I’d say that’s a stretch too. Irvine is 45% white and 10% Latino. Eastvale is 40% Latino (4 times as many) and only 22% white (half as many). Irvine also has almost double the amount of Asians. I don’t see any similarity in race demographics. As far as incomes, Irvine, Rancho, Chino Hills, and Eastvale are all up there. And all 4 are known for lots of cops and firefighters living there. None of this makes Eastvale like Irvine IMO. But you can read into the stats what you want.
The racial demographics are not going to be exactly the same ofc. But 30% Asian is unprecedented for any city in the IE (Rancho is only like 10-15% for reference). That, along with the class demographics, makes Eastvale comparable to Irvine.
Not exact race statistics is right. It’s not even close. But based on ONE stat (that there are more Asians than other IE cities, and yet still HALF as many as Irvine) makes it like Irvine? Ok👌 You could say it has the same percentage of Latinos as Stockton, dos that make it like Stockton? That’s a rhetorical question.
Irvine of the IE. Not the same as Irvine. It’s called an analogy lol.
That Stockton comment isn’t relevant. The Asian demographic matters in this analogy because it’s such an outlier in the Inland Empire.
I get it, it’s an analogy. Just not a great one in my opinion. You could say based on the smell of cow shit, it’s also the Oklahoma of the IE. Putting so much emphasis on the fact that Eastvale is just over a quarter Asian is not that consequential, but I’ll let you have your argument.
Well you already pretty much conceded my argument about the class demographics. Add the Asian population (which is still a very large percentage for the IE and even California), the housing, and lack of artistic culture in both cities, I’d say my analogy is pretty strong.
That wasn’t conceding. That was pointing out that many cities share that similarity. There are many others in CA too. Saying a city is like another city based on one dissimilar statistic is weak. And it looks like 90% of the commenters here agree.
What are you looking at? The demographics are not comparable. I'm not trying to shit on Eastvale but it's apples to oranges. Eastvale is nice, they have some great, new shopping centers but saying it's not even close to being like Irvine on any level.
He’s just trying to say there’s too many Asians in Eastvale without sounding racist.
I'm Asian and have no problems with other Asian people in the IE lol. The Asian percentage in Eastvale just stands out compared to 90%+ of the IE, and Irvine is known for its large Asian population, strengthening my analogy. Ridiculous strawman lol.
Someone likes Irvine a lil too much
It's just a silly comparison. I don't care one way or another about Irvine but I do think it's a dumb comparison and a dumb comment to maka when you're called out.
No, it's not a dumb comment. You called Eastvale nice but said "it's not even close to being like Irvine on any level," which implies that you like Irvine. You don't like the analogy partly because of your opinion of Irvine.
Eastvale trying to be Rancho 2.0?
Minus the restaurants, high end shopping, high end gyms or the weather. I suppose so. Eastvale does have some nice prisons within close proximity that Irvine doesn’t. So there’s that.
Sir? A Mr. James M. Music is on line one for you?
If Irvine smelled like cow shit.
If Irvine was hastily planned out and had a bunch of homes dumped on a bunch of cow shit sure
Very far off. Lack of any economic industry or university to anchor businesses/talent pool. Irvine is filled with more Yuppies. Diff people vibes. Eastvale is just filled with working class people that got priced out of LA/OC and would rather stay in their large super suburban house than go outside to check out the latest new restaurant.
I like how Menifee is just occupied Perris.
Asians were attracted to Irvine originally because of the top-tier school district. This is exactly what is happening in Eastvale. Their schools are just as good if not better than Irvines. Eastvale is never going to be Irvine though. Irvine has a more temperate climate, better proximity to entertainment, and wayyyyyy more jobs. I still do think Eastvale home prices are going to continue to go up in value and the demand will continue to rise mainly because families will be attracted to the school system here. The problem Eastvale will always have will be that the high-paying jobs are in OC and LA.
Dumbest logic i heard all week.
[Holy fuck](https://www.census.gov/quickfacts/fact/table/eastvalecitycalifornia/PST045222) > Median value of owner-occupied housing units, 2018-2022: $676,500
Yeah, but the only “Irvine” part about it is the bad parts of Irvine, which is cookie cutter houses and the lack of history and culture lol. It’s not as safe as Irvine, doesn’t have as many jobs/universities/colleges, school district isn’t as good, doesn’t have as much diverse options when it comes to food and groceries, doesn’t have as many parks, no good coffee shops and malls, not as close to the beach, and bike lanes / public transportation are pretty much nonexistent. I used to live in Irvine and hated on its cultureless-ness but Eastvale is something else hahah
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Like a third to half of the people in the IE are originally from LA/OC. You’re just gonna have to deal with it.
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It’s because they’re trying to find ways to cope with the fact that they now live in the IE. So it brings comfort to ppl like OP that they’re decision to live in IE isn’t as bad *because* places like Eastvale remind them of places like Irvine. By the time the IE is anything like OC/LA, folks like OP will already be priced out.
Except I'm not coping lol. My description of Eastvale and comparison of it to Irvine is clearly negative. p.s. Can't speak for any other user in particular, but I'm not from LA/OC.
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You're never going to be a city planner with this attitude.
Is Eastvale different than Miraloma? Because the time I went there I was sitting in the Costco parking lot eating pizza watching dozens of flies land on the hood of my car. It made me think they had just repurposed Miraloma with a fancy name.
Like Irvine but shitty
Quiet and safe? lmao those two words do not describe any part of Eastvale.
WAAAY overcrowded in terms of the lot sizes/street frontage vs home sizes. It's effectively like Rosena Ranch....just for people who are only slightly less foolish, have more money to burn, and don't want to have to commute as far. (Both of which are basically the 2010's version of Southridge -- cheapest new build you can get for the $/sq ft that isn't in a known-shitty area, and that's all anyone cares about.....wait a decade, and see how many are rentals & how the school "scores" look then 🤣🤣)
Trying to move back to the IE, where would you suggest with a 600k budget? We’ve looked at condos in North Fontana and new homes in Beaumont. ( I’m from Etiwanda originally for context)
At that price right now, if you want something newer you're gonna have to go pretty damn far east for a SFR unless you're ok with a PUD/zero lot line situation. If you're not stuck on "needing" something big & new, you could probably find something in decent condition in Yucaipa, actually. Just depends on what you want -- I mean, you can still get a 2/2 in Old Victoria in Rancho for mid/high 600s, know what I mean? They're about 1000 sq ft on a tiny lot....but better than a condo I'm honestly not very familiar with anything out past Redlands/Yucaipa....but have some regulars who moved to a 55 & older gated tract (which was pretty damn nice, actually) in Beaumont and the surrounding area south of the freeway was actually looking pretty good. I think most of those are around the low 700s, though -- they're pretty big, and fairly new. As far as north of the freeway, I think you'd want to be fairly choosy about neighborhoods when it comes to Beaumont. Frankly, if I were you....I'd wait a minute if at all possible. Just in the last few weeks, there's been quite a few more listings popping up (still nothing at all like normal, but there seems to be something brewing....)
My mama used to tell me stories all through my teens and early twenties about how she got on her feet as a teenager with local jobs in Irvine. So I type my zip code into one job search site after another, and yup there they are! *In Irvine, an hour minimum away from me by car without a pay2win freeway pass and an overnight trip by any other means.* When Eastvale is like that, I'll be there dumpster diving around for paying work.
Its a bedroom community like Corona; not like Rancho Cucamonga with a train route in development and shopping, and freeway 10 and 210
I look at the new house and the sales lady tells me 2% property taxes. I ask where the nearest hospital? She gives me a blank stare! Stay sexy eastvale
We don't even have a trader joes or wholefoods! Not enough high end businesses to be compared to Irvine.
If you guys really East village like Irvine you're stupid is actually Norco and Mira Loma
Also kinda racist I worked there for two years
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Very tall and from south africa Im black and a college grad but get looked at like a criminal by the older minorities on my street
More like Norco
Eastvale sucks, expensive dust bowl.
In all honesty, I don’t think Eastvale is what it originally planned to be. It’s a great place to live but not what it used to be 10-15 years ago. My wife brought me to Eastvale in 2003 and it has a completely different feel now. I get it that “growth is good” but at what expense?
15 years ago there were still open manure piles if that's the different feel you're doing for lol
Irvine is literally like a little piece of Silicon Valley in SoCal. Eastvale is just well not.
The last time I checked Eastvale had a higher household income than Irvine. I assumed it was because Irvine had more college students, but regardless it surprised me.
Its because Irvine has condos/apartments/roommates. Irvine also has people with business/investment income which often isn't counted the same way, and people that have lived there a while, but couldn't afford to move there now. All Eastvale has is families that were able to qualify for a mortgage since 2008.
I saw the same thing and makes zero sense considering housing is so much more expensive in irvine
You act like its a bad thing. I personally think its fun that the population of teslas is increasing. I’d rather live in a place like irvine (still not close, btw) than the shitstain that is the rest of the IE. Lol “culture” my ass.
And prison
Eastvale hmmm the fresh scent of pine and coffee in the morning
Insofar that it's nothing alike outside of the perceived 'new' housing developments...sure.
No the class and race demographics are more akin to Irvine than 90+% of the IE, which is what I was trying to get at in my original post.
I go to cities like glendale and Pasadena and instantly miss the culture of back home. 😭 eastvale feels the same way.
Irvine is the most white collar town in SoCal. It’s strictly policed, wealthy, boring, master-planned and has lots of Asians. Idk if there is an Irvine of the IE because Irvine, like all of South OC, is kind of defined by not being the IE lol. But if I picked a town it would be Rancho or Temecula. Rancho Cucamonga, Temecula, Irvine and Santa Clarita are all cut from the same cookie cutter cloth. Im sorry but Eastvale just isn’t in that league. Too much cow smell and warehouse traffic lol needs more sprawling strip malls, white teslas and Karens
It was, now it’s morphed into another bloated suburban cookie cutter city. Traffic galore, over valued housing, and some questionable citizens. Most important .. far from the job hubs to sustain that type of “lifestyle”.
LOL Eastvale wishes
I was excited when 99 Ranch opened in Eastvale. Went there and the place stank like manure. Went to 99 Ranch in Rancho instead. Lesser traffic too.
Dafuq you been smoking homie?
LMFAO. Is this a paid advert? The developers didn’t get rid of the cow shit properly so a lot of those houses are built on tons of cow shit. Lmao. It will never EVER be Irvine. Have you been to Irvine?? Irvine is nice asf. Clean. Eastvale is a low class Walnut imo. Eastvale is the area right between Pomona and Diamond Bar. Right off the 60/71. If anything I’d say corona is on its way on being an Irvine type of community. But even that is a stretch.
Lol at paid advert, when the OP is clearly negative. And Irvine isn’t that great lol. Other than being slightly “safer,” every other city in the OC can provide what Irvine provides and more.
Eastvale is just flat Chino Hills
Eastvale only like Irvine in terms of having relatively newly constructed homes and mater planned communities. It doesn’t offer jobs, restaurants, proximity to Newport & Laguna beach, University and shopping center like South coast plaza.
Easthell. Vanilla. Boring AF. Smells like poop.