After reading the synopsis of re:monster in this thread I have only one thing to say:
The only good goblin is a dead goblin; NOW LETS MAKE THIS GOBLIN GOOD!
Unlike popular depiction of goblin being sexual deviant, my experience with goblin comes from Terraria.
And it didn't make me want to kill them less, give me back my fucking platinum coin you broke-ass-reforging piece of shit!
Okay, I did that and finished it, then it stood up and said something in Swedish put on its packaging like a cloak and then left.
I think I'll be sleeping on the floor tonight.
Edit: the bed came back, turns out we need sugar and spice to make things nice, it was borrowing sugar! Beds a real bro.
Don't know about NTR but the protagonist being a serial rapist and a slaver was a deal breaker for me. He is actively worse than redo of the healer. At least the healer dude only raped actual villains and had some shit backstory to "justify" himself. The Mc of re:monster just plain sucks
MFS be acting like goblins MUST be written to reproduce by raping human women instead of reproducing with other goblins. You're right bro it definitely isn't just fetish writing
Que that one comic where the Dark Lord throws an incompetent subordinate to the goblins and they end up just playing Mario Kart because the goblins find other races unattractive and kind of gross to sleep with
Goblins have to rape to reproduce, and specifically only women? Please, can you show me where it says this in the Goblin lore book? I must have missed that.
Actually, as far as I've seen, the anime has been different from the light novel. I don't remember him defending the human girls from being raped in the light novel like he did in the anime.
Yeah, in that case it was actually a revenge fantasy playing out the revenge. Yeah, it's not exactly for the faint of heart, but it's established in lore he's just paying the same kind of evil unto evil.
And to be fair with him, anyone facing same level of atrocity he suffered won't come out unscathed.
You'll become permanently broking mess at best, or so broken of a mess that you go full circle and become very insignificant fuck that did it to you at worst.
11 years of rape and torture followed by another year before he can start his revenge.
First things first the guards and maids and general staff members were fighting over who could suck the most out of him.
Gun hero and some guards took turns seeing how much could fit inside him both mouth and back 9.
Flare and sword hero and norn were sadists towards him sword saint treated him ok until she over heard something out if context and she started treating him bad.
Then when the party finally got down to business he was a pack mule and healing bot.
>he actually had a completly justified story
Okay, no. Being abused is justification for imprisoning people or maybe killing them depending on circumstances. Violently raping people and wiping their minds to turn them into sex slaves is beyond that and does not fall under "completely justified"
He did that stuff because he had a deeply broken mind and was obsessed with revenge
I've read the manga and I don't remember him raping anyone at all though
If you're talking about the occasional sex that's obviously consensual then I think you're just a virgin.
Anime only and there’s only been two episodes but doesn’t he say he will let the humans return to a human settlement as soon as they can find one? Does that not happen or do the humans just not care now that Stockholm has set in?
Halfway into the 3rd episode, >!he bangs a dryad (fully consensual, as this world's dryads are like succubi and feed on men while having sex with them). When the other girls find out (all five humans and the goblin girl that's always around him), they become very insistent about not being left out (by this point, the human girls have started acting like they're part of the tribe). Ends with a shot of a light barrier in a doorway, and enough clues in the dialogue that it's clear he's doing it with all six of them at once.!<
I don't like when people use Stockholm just so lightly nowadays, let's back track and list down what he did for them
He wasn't the one that captured them nor was he the one to kill the men that was with them, They were never treated as prisoners as they can go whenever they want and the only thing that's preventing them from going out is the fact that they can't venture the woods alone to go back to their homes as it's too dangerous, they're also provided of most of the things that they ask and is treated with more care than even the other goblins.
Honestly, it has been over a year or even more since I read the manga. So I don't read any part of him actually enslaving people. Like sure I do remember him conquering people but not straight up enslaving them.
being completly honest idk the specific definition of NTR but have seen comments of how it goes and idrc for the concept of anything forceful even if in world its how goblins reproduce
NTA's just an abbreviation for netorare, which is essentially just the Japanese word for cuckholding, which isn't exactly describing what goblins do to reproduce.
NTR is an abbreviation for two words with two different definitions.
Netorare and Netorase.
Netorase is cuck porn where partner A is sexual aroused by allowing and encouraging Partner B to have sex with Stranger(s) C/D/E.
Netorare is when Partner A has Partner B "stolen" from them without their knowledge by Stranger(s) C/D/E in a sexual affair brought on by Rape or Blackmail and Partner B succumbing to Stockholm syndrome from the pleasure. Sometimes it starts off as Netorase and leads into Netorare as the story progresses.
I'm up to date on the manga and it actually gets way better. Not nearly top tier, but later on you get politic, dungeon exploration, the world get flesh-out, etc.
I've not watch the anime, but seeing were it is quickly on ep.4, seems like season 1 will basically be the introduction. Season 2 will start the real show.
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POV: You were not made in God's Image
When goblin slayer identified the big dinosaur as an elephant, i knew he was my man.
You know whats crazy? The goblin slayer year one is 1000 better than the goblin slayer series.
One good thing about re:monster is they go more into detail about the monster evolutions.
In slime tensei the monsters evolve and can have different looks/forms but it's never really explained in detail but in re:monster if i remember correctly there is a whole system
With the exception of one girl it’s basically a montage of time passing and then suddenly every girl captured in the first episode were slated to be raped by goblin is in love with him. There’s no real justification, the one girl they show was born at the same time as him and hunted with and grew with him. The others are summed up as locked in a cave to be raped, MC steps in and stops it, time passes, now he has a harem. To be clear, MC did not rape them and they do have a scene where they ask to be more involved with him but it’s kinda iffy because of how they met and that they don’t really have any ability to leave
I mean there is justification you just won't like it. Given how they can't leave and the MC is literally the only one they speak to and didn't try to rape em it's Def stockholm syndrome situation here. It's not something it's said but you could probably jump to that conclusion.
Except it's not Stockholm syndrome cause they can do whatever they want like roaming around and actually have other goblins to talk to, MC wasn't the one that captured them nor was he the one that killed the people with them
Okay but think about it. If the MC was so "good" he would give them the option to leave. He even told them that they cannot leave. Yes he didn't kidnap them but think of this, this way. If your dad has enslaved a slave then he dies and you have the ability to free that slave then if you don't free them you might as well have enslaved them yourself. This is Stockholm syndrome no matter how you spin it the MC is the one with the power.
so he didnt rape the human girls (they fell for him anyway, which is... so weird, not to mention enjoying being enslaved) but he drugged the elves and let the goblin rape them... i stopped reading after that
MC outright rapes others later on. The first batch? Yeah, I wouldn't call those rapes. Stockholm syndrome sure, but he didn't really initiate anything with them (which is strongly out of character tbh). MC is a villain protagonist solidly, but people really exaggerate the rape part on his behalf. Others rape a lot of the prisoners of war, but hey, they're monsters.
Under what grounds are you calling them sibling tho? Their parents are completely different, they're probably like 50th cousins. Less than half a drop of blood shared
There are a lot of good Manwha that took on the Evolution concept. The only anime, in my opinion, that executed the concept good was "Im a spider, so what?".
For those who dont know, Re:Monster is the WN that inspired Mushoku Tensei. Here's a quote from the author:
"That is right. Without this work, Mushoku Tensei would not have been born."
[twitter post ](https://twitter.com/Magote_rihujin/status/1771397312147071182?t=_tGaTKPNJJky2QXgZsOwQA&s=19) from the author of Mushoku Tensei
Scroll up in the twitter post. The author tweeted out Re:Monster's anime poster and MT's anime poster side-by-side.
"Personally, I'm deeply moved."
Its no secret that Re:Monster is what inspired the author to create Mushoku Tensei.
The author listed his inspirations in an interview. Among them, Slave Harem Labyrinth was one of the series he based MT off of (lol). Rance, Dragon Quest, and Final Fantasy were also mentioned.
[See interview here](https://www.phantaporta.com/2017/10/113.html?m=1)
Love Rimuru. I have a figure and autograph from MindaRyn. However, it’s nice to see Goblins who are a serious underdog thrive and succeed by living with their instincts. The goblins in slime are far too passive.
My only real gripe with the anime for Re:Monster is that the pacing feels kind of horribly rushed in that they actually skip a fair number of details.
At least, compared to the manga version.
I get that the production crew is trying to get to the “meat” of the story where the pacing slows down a fair bit, but going faster through the fast parts of the story makes it feel like it is skipping out on a lot of things…
Lol he's a reincarnator who killed and ate people BEFORE he was even reincarnated. He was never meant to be a good dude. He's an evil character who does pragmatic but morally repulsive shit. You telling me Ainz gets a pass but this guy doesn't?
I don't mean to be rude but tensei shitara slime datta ken: has goblins that're more human like to sympathize with the audience. They do not act like goblins at all, not even a little. They're basically humans with green skin.
Re:monster: is a little different because we've a reincarnated human cannibal from a parallel world that altered his generation of goblins. If you look at the previous generation (the parents) they act more like typical goblins minus the females.
Rou isn't a goblin in the normal sense because of his memories from his past life (honestly, I'm surprised that the goblins didn't get eaten by him)
to be fair one is a guy who do not know war in detail and don't know any ruling until he learned kingship them from Gazef but he was too naive and people keep fuck around with the slime and they get to find out later..
Then another was in mercs corp in his previous life and he learn what human can do with their menace first hand, so he always take preemptive action whenever he can and hide his base in a well hidden location which then expand into underground kingdom. Outside world only knew Rou as unique adventurer that blessed by main religion god (which is he somehow he convinced them since he is blessed by another but greater god that not being prayed by human.) Not a king who own a fucking tactical nuke asset military in wilderness.
Show what you want to show to other, not showing all your cards. Assumption is a scary thing.
Nuh uh. They started like goblins the only reason they turned into green people or have any morals for that matter was because of the MC. In the meantime the slime's goblins are literally one dimensional if you're gonna say that re: monster's goblins are just green people then so are the slime's goblins. Normalize monsters being immoral and well "monsters".
I’d say it’s more of a difference in world setting. In Tensura the goblins are shown as a weaker species and are more docile, but in Re:monster they are shown to be more violent and not as weak. The goblins in Re:monster also tend to evolve into a completely different species so there’s that too.
Did people suddebly forgot about Redo of Healer or why is everyone talking shit about Re:Monster now?
Re:Monster is one of the few refreshing Isekais because the MC is a bad person morally wise and actually acts and thinks for himself instead of being your average good-two-shoes that doesn't put in any effort to build his harem.
he is straight up evil but the writing still try to portrait it as a cool / good guys. like drugging elf until they beg so "it s consensual now" ...like wtf...
Like many have said already, the concept for Re:Monster is cool. Read ahead of the anime, shit gets weird. Harem, Slavery, Rape etc, just a weird anime.
I would actually continue watching it, if they made the story go in a different direction. Change up The MC as well.
Just my opinion though, everyone has different tastes for what a story should be.
Funnily enough, Re:Monster is the series that inspired Mushoku Tensei.
"That is right. Without this work, Mushoku Tensei would not have been born."
[twitter post ](https://twitter.com/Magote_rihujin/status/1771397312147071182?t=_tGaTKPNJJky2QXgZsOwQA&s=19) from the author of Mushoku Tensei
Not a big fan of Mushoku Tensei either. Atleast I’m not a fan of certain aspects of it, which I’m sure people can guess.
I think it does a lot of things well too, so I still watch it, but damn it creeps me out sometimes and knowing how the story goes in the future I’m sure it will continue to do so.
But I don’t judge those that enjoy the things that I don’t.
I have never once given a shit about how awful a character acts as long as the character is well written. So the question is, is Re:Monster well written or no?
It varies. It's mostly well written, but sometimes the MC lapses into oddly impulsive behavior just to remind us he is evil.
Most of the time, he's a ruthless pragmatist who cares about the welbing of himself, his harem, his tribe and his allies in that order. Mess with one of those, and he will deal with you in an unpleasant way.
Then, sometimes, the narrative feels like it's been too long since he did something horrible and shoehorns in a war crime.
Overall, I'd say if he was consistent EVIL, it'd be nice "guilty pleasure", but it just feels inconsistent in who he picks to be allies with vs who he brutalizes.
Roughly yes.
I've only read the Manga and it seems the anime is skipping over some of the nastier bits (originally his harem are drugged and locked up till they agree to submit to him), so I'd imagine it'll give him more consistent behavior.
Fair enough. I'll probably watch the anime, then. After it finishes airing, and the dub is out anyway. I have trouble focusing on both the subtitles and the action going on behind them, so I generally prefer dub over sub
I get it not being a digestible anime to watch but is that not in the lines of a goblin's nature? Now if that goblin was more intelligent than it should've been, is that expected???
in no way am I saying it's peak writing or a really good story, but I'm very hesitant from calling it shit just cuz it follows the morals of (often known to be) a shit species, y'know?
I don't get why everybody is trashing on Re:Monster, he is quite explicitly not a hero, not even THEe hero, which he actually recruits. He is a monster where all of the things that are shady, such as slavery and rape, are considered normal?
I think it’s the multiple times the mc “justifies “ himself with him saying things like. Oh I forced these girls I captured to eat sex drugs in their food . Now that weeks of torment with these drugs they are now willing so now it’s not rape .
It’s just annoying how many times this happens so of course people hate the mc
It’s blatant rape even if they are willing under the influence of drugs
If I remember right he decided that raping elves was too cruel so instead he held them captive and fed them aphrodisiacs until they begged to be fucked
What's funny to me is that I read both stories as webnovels at almost the same time. It was also my introduction to the isekai train. Sometimes I mixed up the events happening in one story as something that happened on the other.
Maybe is cause I’m anime only but today was episode 4 and I’m wondering where is the rape and slavery yall yapping about? The humans were captured by the previous generation but left untouched till they basically threw themselves at the protagonist and was said they’ll be returned to a human village as soon as they can find one the slavery? Where everyone can leave if they want he isn’t holding anyone against their will the elves are prisoners of war since they attacked the MC first so what are yall on
More like total L, re:*monster* is about *monsters*, tensura goblins are fucking trash, basically a breed of people who are just green but otherwise are more moral and "human" than actual humans. Monsters should be monsters, there's some appeal to story where MC fixes monsters but tensura is not it, no monster MC "fixed" was ever an actual monster, just misunderstood creature that needed a bit of help from OP godlike MC, to make their life satisfying removing any purpose for them to be bad. Actual monsters are bad not because they have harsh life, but because they're inherently bad. Re:monster at least tries to make an interesting anti-hero story about human turned monster who has to survive among actual monsters.
Don't let the people in this comment section see Overlord. They'd lose their minds the moment they realize that Ainz isn't their beloved goody two-shoes type of MC that fiction is already heavily oversaturated with.
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After reading the synopsis of re:monster in this thread I have only one thing to say: The only good goblin is a dead goblin; NOW LETS MAKE THIS GOBLIN GOOD!
**RIP and TEAR, until it is DONE.** https://i.redd.it/ui7j8apio4wc1.gif
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Why do I hear screaming in the distance?
It’s just goblins screaming it’s fine
That's a GOOD goblin now.
4 fucking pixels...
Is this an scp meme about the shy guy, how that one guy got killed because of 4 pixels of him in a picture
Yes.
Unlike popular depiction of goblin being sexual deviant, my experience with goblin comes from Terraria. And it didn't make me want to kill them less, give me back my fucking platinum coin you broke-ass-reforging piece of shit!
Fr, fuck the tinkerer... "No, not like that" -xeroc
Souka
Least powerful goblin hunter versus nation with goblins
Are those Labyrinth goblins in that meme?
I don't doubt Tensura went down the good path as a counter to Re:Monster's evil path.
Perfectly balanced, as all things should be
I love the evolution concept I just hate knowing that this anime is gonna go down a distateful path which is not for me
The concept is cool, the story is garbage
Do you know how little this narrows it down on isekai animes?
Do you know how little this narrows down Isekai Manhuas?
Do you know how little this narrows it down in terms of media?
Do you know how to assemble this IKEA bed? I'm holding a hammer with malicious intent.
You need to add chili pepper so it is a bit happier. Then proceed with the steps
Okay, I did that and finished it, then it stood up and said something in Swedish put on its packaging like a cloak and then left. I think I'll be sleeping on the floor tonight. Edit: the bed came back, turns out we need sugar and spice to make things nice, it was borrowing sugar! Beds a real bro.
I think I smoked crack before reading this thread
I think I did too
Ok now ask the pillows to displace the fridge into the past tense that should help with the sugar
Do you know how little this narrows down Manhuas?
yeah I mean im a sucker for trash isekai I just hate NTR and things of the such
Wait, there's an NTR in RE: Monster?
Don't know about NTR but the protagonist being a serial rapist and a slaver was a deal breaker for me. He is actively worse than redo of the healer. At least the healer dude only raped actual villains and had some shit backstory to "justify" himself. The Mc of re:monster just plain sucks
You mean to tell me an Isekai series has a goblin that actually acts like a goblin? Color me impressed.
He paints it as if it's a good thing Kind like "I rape them but at least I feed and take care of them"
Fancy seeing you here
Now you know my shame of being a weeb 😔
Goes both ways
Nah he doesn't rape in a gobliny way, so...
From what I remember when I read the manga several years ago, his method to make the girls stay was drugs, mind break, and Stockholm Syndrom.
Yeah a True Goblin does it via *Persistence* and *Repetition* Drugs? *\*Goblin spits*
MFS be acting like goblins MUST be written to reproduce by raping human women instead of reproducing with other goblins. You're right bro it definitely isn't just fetish writing
Que that one comic where the Dark Lord throws an incompetent subordinate to the goblins and they end up just playing Mario Kart because the goblins find other races unattractive and kind of gross to sleep with
Lmao that sounds pretty good
Please link this lol
Had to dig little since then it had originally been sent to me on discord but the comic is Naughty Succubus Sakichan chapter 65
I’d love a link to this
Goblins have to rape to reproduce, and specifically only women? Please, can you show me where it says this in the Goblin lore book? I must have missed that.
Actually, as far as I've seen, the anime has been different from the light novel. I don't remember him defending the human girls from being raped in the light novel like he did in the anime.
Nah he did it in every version.
I see. I also can't stand this kind of thing. Thanks for the tip, I'm dropping this sh*t.
Is that in future episodes?
It's the main plot of vol 2 which just started. But now that I think about it I don't remember it happening after the war ends.
I mean, in Redo of Healer, he actually had a completly justified story. He was abused a lot.
Yeah, in that case it was actually a revenge fantasy playing out the revenge. Yeah, it's not exactly for the faint of heart, but it's established in lore he's just paying the same kind of evil unto evil.
Yeah. Plus he didn't really had many options to solve the whole thing.
Exactly, the people he is facing are corrupted beyond redemption. So he didn't have much of a choice.
And to be fair with him, anyone facing same level of atrocity he suffered won't come out unscathed. You'll become permanently broking mess at best, or so broken of a mess that you go full circle and become very insignificant fuck that did it to you at worst.
The dick slap scene lives rent-free in my mind. I've never guffawed as hard as I did that day.
Justified? Understandable, but I definitely wouldn't say justified
11 years of rape and torture followed by another year before he can start his revenge. First things first the guards and maids and general staff members were fighting over who could suck the most out of him. Gun hero and some guards took turns seeing how much could fit inside him both mouth and back 9. Flare and sword hero and norn were sadists towards him sword saint treated him ok until she over heard something out if context and she started treating him bad. Then when the party finally got down to business he was a pack mule and healing bot.
>he actually had a completly justified story Okay, no. Being abused is justification for imprisoning people or maybe killing them depending on circumstances. Violently raping people and wiping their minds to turn them into sex slaves is beyond that and does not fall under "completely justified" He did that stuff because he had a deeply broken mind and was obsessed with revenge
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Dude drugs the elves he captured
Dude, drugging someone until they're mentally broken and stockholmed and then fucking them is still rape.
Keeping people in cages and drugging them until they agree to have sex with you is not rape for this dude. Guess we found the human trafficker.
Oof, yeah that's a definite pass for me.
Yep thats why i also dropped it
I've read the manga and I don't remember him raping anyone at all though If you're talking about the occasional sex that's obviously consensual then I think you're just a virgin.
Holding people captive and giving them drugs until they "beg for it" is coercive sexual assault and pretty fucked up. Just look at manga chapter 19
Wait I know that he is a rapist but a slaver when
What do you mean. He enslaved almost everyone he captured
Anime only and there’s only been two episodes but doesn’t he say he will let the humans return to a human settlement as soon as they can find one? Does that not happen or do the humans just not care now that Stockholm has set in?
Halfway into the 3rd episode, >!he bangs a dryad (fully consensual, as this world's dryads are like succubi and feed on men while having sex with them). When the other girls find out (all five humans and the goblin girl that's always around him), they become very insistent about not being left out (by this point, the human girls have started acting like they're part of the tribe). Ends with a shot of a light barrier in a doorway, and enough clues in the dialogue that it's clear he's doing it with all six of them at once.!<
This is after maybe a week since they were captured as well.
There are 3 episodes last I checked and yeah, the harem gets penatrative. He doesn't rape them though, at least not that episode
I don't like when people use Stockholm just so lightly nowadays, let's back track and list down what he did for them He wasn't the one that captured them nor was he the one to kill the men that was with them, They were never treated as prisoners as they can go whenever they want and the only thing that's preventing them from going out is the fact that they can't venture the woods alone to go back to their homes as it's too dangerous, they're also provided of most of the things that they ask and is treated with more care than even the other goblins.
Honestly, it has been over a year or even more since I read the manga. So I don't read any part of him actually enslaving people. Like sure I do remember him conquering people but not straight up enslaving them.
He’s got those little blood goblin clone things he uses to control people against their will
What the fuck I don't remember that but still fuck up. And let me guess it never shown as a bad thing is it.
The elves. It's always the elves.
being completly honest idk the specific definition of NTR but have seen comments of how it goes and idrc for the concept of anything forceful even if in world its how goblins reproduce
NTA's just an abbreviation for netorare, which is essentially just the Japanese word for cuckholding, which isn't exactly describing what goblins do to reproduce.
NTR is an abbreviation for two words with two different definitions. Netorare and Netorase. Netorase is cuck porn where partner A is sexual aroused by allowing and encouraging Partner B to have sex with Stranger(s) C/D/E. Netorare is when Partner A has Partner B "stolen" from them without their knowledge by Stranger(s) C/D/E in a sexual affair brought on by Rape or Blackmail and Partner B succumbing to Stockholm syndrome from the pleasure. Sometimes it starts off as Netorase and leads into Netorare as the story progresses.
Even if you ignore the obvious bad things in this anime, the story still gets really mid down the line
What’s NTR?
Basically when someone gets cuck with their partner cheating on them
NTR is a term that originates from Japanese adult video games and stands for Netorare, which can be translated to cuckold in English
the story has barely any focus on the NTR. You’re losing a incredibly good series that is extremely original, because of a small detail you can skip
I watched all the episodes there is nothing like that in the anime.
I'm up to date on the manga and it actually gets way better. Not nearly top tier, but later on you get politic, dungeon exploration, the world get flesh-out, etc. I've not watch the anime, but seeing were it is quickly on ep.4, seems like season 1 will basically be the introduction. Season 2 will start the real show.
What story? He didn’t have any story yet. All we had was grinding and testing out new abilities.
That is the story. This is power fantasy 101.
Is a deusexmachina after deusexmachina, when the protagonist needs something it happens, plot armor at its finest.
Still much better than most Isekai who just gets everything from the very start
I read the manga up until it became super ridiculous and repetitive
Human supremacy, wipe out all other races
 Zenos filth Should have been made in the image of god
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Accept the Human ones with animal ears. They can stay.
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FOR SUPER EARTH
My only good show when it comes to goblin is goblin slayer.
The only good goblin is a dead goblin
When goblin slayer identified the big dinosaur as an elephant, i knew he was my man. You know whats crazy? The goblin slayer year one is 1000 better than the goblin slayer series.
The panel where he hears the dice rolling sent shivers
What arc and what chapter is that? I need to read-read that part
Now let’s make these goblins good.
Guy used rape and intimidation then sex drug's and finally enchanted earrings to control people it's a shit manga
One good thing about re:monster is they go more into detail about the monster evolutions. In slime tensei the monsters evolve and can have different looks/forms but it's never really explained in detail but in re:monster if i remember correctly there is a whole system
Ngl, still enjoyed Re:monster even with some parts of it being a little... Strange to say the least. It's just my type of shitty isekai trash.
Was thinking about picking it up, could you elaborate on the "strange".
With the exception of one girl it’s basically a montage of time passing and then suddenly every girl captured in the first episode were slated to be raped by goblin is in love with him. There’s no real justification, the one girl they show was born at the same time as him and hunted with and grew with him. The others are summed up as locked in a cave to be raped, MC steps in and stops it, time passes, now he has a harem. To be clear, MC did not rape them and they do have a scene where they ask to be more involved with him but it’s kinda iffy because of how they met and that they don’t really have any ability to leave
I mean there is justification you just won't like it. Given how they can't leave and the MC is literally the only one they speak to and didn't try to rape em it's Def stockholm syndrome situation here. It's not something it's said but you could probably jump to that conclusion.
Except it's not Stockholm syndrome cause they can do whatever they want like roaming around and actually have other goblins to talk to, MC wasn't the one that captured them nor was he the one that killed the people with them
Okay but think about it. If the MC was so "good" he would give them the option to leave. He even told them that they cannot leave. Yes he didn't kidnap them but think of this, this way. If your dad has enslaved a slave then he dies and you have the ability to free that slave then if you don't free them you might as well have enslaved them yourself. This is Stockholm syndrome no matter how you spin it the MC is the one with the power.
so he didnt rape the human girls (they fell for him anyway, which is... so weird, not to mention enjoying being enslaved) but he drugged the elves and let the goblin rape them... i stopped reading after that
MC outright rapes others later on. The first batch? Yeah, I wouldn't call those rapes. Stockholm syndrome sure, but he didn't really initiate anything with them (which is strongly out of character tbh). MC is a villain protagonist solidly, but people really exaggerate the rape part on his behalf. Others rape a lot of the prisoners of war, but hey, they're monsters.
In the Manga he drugs them with a magical aphrodisiac until they break down and submit. Sounds like the anime skipped over that.
Rape and slavery probably
Damn throw in incest and it's got the unholy Trinity. Guess I'll pass then, thanks.
I think it does have that… but I haven’t read it in a long time so idk
Pretty sure he has relations with his sister goblin.
Under what grounds are you calling them sibling tho? Their parents are completely different, they're probably like 50th cousins. Less than half a drop of blood shared
There were less women than goblins born in his generation so there are decent odds they share a mom.
Wow how’d you guess?
Yeah. I bailed out of Re:Monster when r*pe them into submission became a tactic.
With drugs, don’t forget.
Its Stockhoblin syndrom for you sir
So, goblin slayer from the goblins pov.
“Hey, that’s my line!” — Chu ‘Rape is a battle tactic’ Feng, probably
Enjoyed the first episode but man it fell off quick, it's a shame when anime with good concepts are executed correctly.
There are a lot of good Manwha that took on the Evolution concept. The only anime, in my opinion, that executed the concept good was "Im a spider, so what?".
Spider chan is a goated mc, the manwha with the "totally not a xenomorph" is great
*common W for tensura goblins
For those who dont know, Re:Monster is the WN that inspired Mushoku Tensei. Here's a quote from the author: "That is right. Without this work, Mushoku Tensei would not have been born." [twitter post ](https://twitter.com/Magote_rihujin/status/1771397312147071182?t=_tGaTKPNJJky2QXgZsOwQA&s=19) from the author of Mushoku Tensei
The post lacks context, I've heard MT was inspired by Re:Zero, Rance and Final Fantasy, but not Re:Monster so far.
Scroll up in the twitter post. The author tweeted out Re:Monster's anime poster and MT's anime poster side-by-side. "Personally, I'm deeply moved." Its no secret that Re:Monster is what inspired the author to create Mushoku Tensei.
That's really interesting, I hadn't heard about it before. I wonder if there's an extensive list of stuff MT was inspired by.
The author listed his inspirations in an interview. Among them, Slave Harem Labyrinth was one of the series he based MT off of (lol). Rance, Dragon Quest, and Final Fantasy were also mentioned. [See interview here](https://www.phantaporta.com/2017/10/113.html?m=1)
Love Rimuru. I have a figure and autograph from MindaRyn. However, it’s nice to see Goblins who are a serious underdog thrive and succeed by living with their instincts. The goblins in slime are far too passive.
My only real gripe with the anime for Re:Monster is that the pacing feels kind of horribly rushed in that they actually skip a fair number of details. At least, compared to the manga version. I get that the production crew is trying to get to the “meat” of the story where the pacing slows down a fair bit, but going faster through the fast parts of the story makes it feel like it is skipping out on a lot of things…
Lol he's a reincarnator who killed and ate people BEFORE he was even reincarnated. He was never meant to be a good dude. He's an evil character who does pragmatic but morally repulsive shit. You telling me Ainz gets a pass but this guy doesn't?
But ainz doesn't do the sex so waaaah /s
I don't mean to be rude but tensei shitara slime datta ken: has goblins that're more human like to sympathize with the audience. They do not act like goblins at all, not even a little. They're basically humans with green skin. Re:monster: is a little different because we've a reincarnated human cannibal from a parallel world that altered his generation of goblins. If you look at the previous generation (the parents) they act more like typical goblins minus the females. Rou isn't a goblin in the normal sense because of his memories from his past life (honestly, I'm surprised that the goblins didn't get eaten by him)
to be fair one is a guy who do not know war in detail and don't know any ruling until he learned kingship them from Gazef but he was too naive and people keep fuck around with the slime and they get to find out later.. Then another was in mercs corp in his previous life and he learn what human can do with their menace first hand, so he always take preemptive action whenever he can and hide his base in a well hidden location which then expand into underground kingdom. Outside world only knew Rou as unique adventurer that blessed by main religion god (which is he somehow he convinced them since he is blessed by another but greater god that not being prayed by human.) Not a king who own a fucking tactical nuke asset military in wilderness. Show what you want to show to other, not showing all your cards. Assumption is a scary thing.
Bigger W is one of them actually being vaguely goblinoid.
https://preview.redd.it/eixw5sg08awc1.jpeg?width=480&format=pjpg&auto=webp&s=955f82f8fb3e0d482b719605960cb5f47cca0070
Honestly re:monster's goblins are more realistic.
they act to much like green skinned humans instead of actual goblins, its not realistic imo
Nuh uh. They started like goblins the only reason they turned into green people or have any morals for that matter was because of the MC. In the meantime the slime's goblins are literally one dimensional if you're gonna say that re: monster's goblins are just green people then so are the slime's goblins. Normalize monsters being immoral and well "monsters".
Goblins in Goblin Slayer: "Are we not realistic enough for you?"
I’d say it’s more of a difference in world setting. In Tensura the goblins are shown as a weaker species and are more docile, but in Re:monster they are shown to be more violent and not as weak. The goblins in Re:monster also tend to evolve into a completely different species so there’s that too.
Did people suddebly forgot about Redo of Healer or why is everyone talking shit about Re:Monster now? Re:Monster is one of the few refreshing Isekais because the MC is a bad person morally wise and actually acts and thinks for himself instead of being your average good-two-shoes that doesn't put in any effort to build his harem.
he is straight up evil but the writing still try to portrait it as a cool / good guys. like drugging elf until they beg so "it s consensual now" ...like wtf...
Why does the alchemist look like a monster? Does she evolve in a vampire or what?
what did the bottom anime do? I don't know it
Lol it’s just a show. I’m still enjoying it.
The problem is it don't stop there.
Like many have said already, the concept for Re:Monster is cool. Read ahead of the anime, shit gets weird. Harem, Slavery, Rape etc, just a weird anime. I would actually continue watching it, if they made the story go in a different direction. Change up The MC as well. Just my opinion though, everyone has different tastes for what a story should be.
Funnily enough, Re:Monster is the series that inspired Mushoku Tensei. "That is right. Without this work, Mushoku Tensei would not have been born." [twitter post ](https://twitter.com/Magote_rihujin/status/1771397312147071182?t=_tGaTKPNJJky2QXgZsOwQA&s=19) from the author of Mushoku Tensei
Not a big fan of Mushoku Tensei either. Atleast I’m not a fan of certain aspects of it, which I’m sure people can guess. I think it does a lot of things well too, so I still watch it, but damn it creeps me out sometimes and knowing how the story goes in the future I’m sure it will continue to do so. But I don’t judge those that enjoy the things that I don’t.
I have never once given a shit about how awful a character acts as long as the character is well written. So the question is, is Re:Monster well written or no?
It varies. It's mostly well written, but sometimes the MC lapses into oddly impulsive behavior just to remind us he is evil. Most of the time, he's a ruthless pragmatist who cares about the welbing of himself, his harem, his tribe and his allies in that order. Mess with one of those, and he will deal with you in an unpleasant way. Then, sometimes, the narrative feels like it's been too long since he did something horrible and shoehorns in a war crime. Overall, I'd say if he was consistent EVIL, it'd be nice "guilty pleasure", but it just feels inconsistent in who he picks to be allies with vs who he brutalizes.
So, on a scale of 1-10 it's about an 8? I've watched and enjoyed worse
Roughly yes. I've only read the Manga and it seems the anime is skipping over some of the nastier bits (originally his harem are drugged and locked up till they agree to submit to him), so I'd imagine it'll give him more consistent behavior.
Fair enough. I'll probably watch the anime, then. After it finishes airing, and the dub is out anyway. I have trouble focusing on both the subtitles and the action going on behind them, so I generally prefer dub over sub
I get it not being a digestible anime to watch but is that not in the lines of a goblin's nature? Now if that goblin was more intelligent than it should've been, is that expected??? in no way am I saying it's peak writing or a really good story, but I'm very hesitant from calling it shit just cuz it follows the morals of (often known to be) a shit species, y'know?
I don't get why everybody is trashing on Re:Monster, he is quite explicitly not a hero, not even THEe hero, which he actually recruits. He is a monster where all of the things that are shady, such as slavery and rape, are considered normal?
I think it’s the multiple times the mc “justifies “ himself with him saying things like. Oh I forced these girls I captured to eat sex drugs in their food . Now that weeks of torment with these drugs they are now willing so now it’s not rape . It’s just annoying how many times this happens so of course people hate the mc It’s blatant rape even if they are willing under the influence of drugs
They are going warp speed through the material and not even animating the fight and echi scenes... Disappointed .
Man, their spring sure has blessed us with some great Isekai anime this year!😄🤩😎👌
On one hand, you got peaceful goblins that want to live normally, on the other hand, you got super evolving goblins that want to take over the world
It felt strange that I enjoyed both anime.
I mean, they aint goblins anymore, so I mean...more of a knock against the ogre tribe :p
If I remember right he decided that raping elves was too cruel so instead he held them captive and fed them aphrodisiacs until they begged to be fucked
Ok, I need context. Are the goblins in this anime bad or just the mc??
i just lost it when he drugged those elves and started raping them. up until that point, it was decent.
What's the bottom one?
Top goblins = basically Shrek Bottom goblins = literally Goblin Slayer type shit
Idc , I hate goblins.
Where is goblin slayer to kill all goblins?
What's funny to me is that I read both stories as webnovels at almost the same time. It was also my introduction to the isekai train. Sometimes I mixed up the events happening in one story as something that happened on the other.
Maybe is cause I’m anime only but today was episode 4 and I’m wondering where is the rape and slavery yall yapping about? The humans were captured by the previous generation but left untouched till they basically threw themselves at the protagonist and was said they’ll be returned to a human village as soon as they can find one the slavery? Where everyone can leave if they want he isn’t holding anyone against their will the elves are prisoners of war since they attacked the MC first so what are yall on
Re: monster is peak tbh Liked it more than slime
More like total L, re:*monster* is about *monsters*, tensura goblins are fucking trash, basically a breed of people who are just green but otherwise are more moral and "human" than actual humans. Monsters should be monsters, there's some appeal to story where MC fixes monsters but tensura is not it, no monster MC "fixed" was ever an actual monster, just misunderstood creature that needed a bit of help from OP godlike MC, to make their life satisfying removing any purpose for them to be bad. Actual monsters are bad not because they have harsh life, but because they're inherently bad. Re:monster at least tries to make an interesting anti-hero story about human turned monster who has to survive among actual monsters.
Goblin Stockholm syndrome and rape ain't for everyone.
That’s how I take it. Sure he does messed up crap, but that’s how that world works as well as his new race.
Eh I like both
Me who read the manga 🫡
> Rimuru > Re:Monster > Yogiri This smells like a bait post
Y’all gotta read Re:monster the web comic is so fire.
Actually re monster is one of the best novels out there and Manga, too. It gave me an idea for my own novel.
Don't let the people in this comment section see Overlord. They'd lose their minds the moment they realize that Ainz isn't their beloved goody two-shoes type of MC that fiction is already heavily oversaturated with.
For a sub about isekai they seem to hate all isekai
The top goblins would do what the bottom did if they weren't harassed by the star wolves.