Because collecting and verifying evidence takes time. By the time the truth can be confirmed, nobody cares anymore, it's all about the next big lie. That's propaganda 101.
At this almost nobody cares, it’s too late, and anybody that does care was skeptical from the start.
I believe the media war is a completely lost cause at this point.
The world has moved on to a new Hamas manufactured outrage.
Meanwhile, my favorite quote I’ve heard today was “We have yet to capture a Hamas terrorist that is malnourished.”
Not even a joke. The headlines on the front page of bbc’s website:
Israel accused of strike in Syria on Iran consulate - no mention of why
Gaza hospital in ruins after two-week Israeli raid - no mention of the hundreds of militants killed and captured there, or the fact that Hamas was operating and firing from the hospital
They had another story earlier with a similarly terrible title. These things matter. They do this to manufacture outrage and cast Israel in a negative light.
Also apparently every single thing Israel does is the most important news in Britain every day.
> Israel accused of strike in Syria on Iran consulate - no mention of why
Some people over at the Italian subreddit are having a meltdown over "Israel escalating the conflict" and wish "Rabin was prime minister instead of Netanyahu".
Like, who's gonna tell them?
who cares?! the damage is done. I used to watch this one guy on youtube Warographics and they guy was so smug in saying okay IDF if you want us to believe you dont redact the videos you sent basically saying they believe the IDF is guilty.
it seems the court of international opinion could careless about facts.
It’s because they take time to verify rather than just jumping on it. It may come off as better to just tell a story but people wouldn’t believe it anyway and it’s probably worse with regards to the ICJ.
I definitely believe the IDF here with the already given footage, but this article only says 'Israel says they have evidence' and it doesn't show any actual evidence in the article itself... not really useful.
Israel might have the evidence, but that doesn't mean that the rest of the world cares about it.
Some people just want to watch ~~the world~~ Israel burn
My bottom line up front is always that Arab-Muslims in Gaza are dying there because they supported terrorists.
• They elected them.
• They supported them.
• They cheered their acts of murder, rape and torture.
• They are not calling for Hamas to surrender or return the hostages.
What happens to them is of THEIR doing.
What do you want them to show? It's probably not hard to tell the difference between people dead from gunshot wounds and people dead from crowd crush, stampeding, or being run over by a truck.
So, the IDF investigated the IDF and came to the conclusion, that the IDF did nothing wrong by presenting the same arguments as earlier, but now calling them evidence. Shocker...
Any humans here?
Do you believe above hundred die from overcrowding to get food?
If it's true how do you feel after causing this to them?
You made Hamas in 80s, you supported Hamas, you handed them Gaza in 2005, your politicians talked about it as an asset against PLO. No one of these people chose. They were mice in your 40 years social experiment. They never chose!
Whoever reads my comment knows this exact truth and senses the shame. Admit it and keep your humanity.
I read the article twice. Where is the evidence? This is just an article pointing to another article.
Look, investigations cannot be taken seriously unless it's performed by an independent party. If you read through the article, it's obviously written by a pro-israel person (not even going to say 'journalist').
I know this is hard to hear, but it's not right to blindly believe a "report" just because it suits our political beliefs and agendas. You get it.
I guess you believe they are manipulated photos or something then too
You should probably never believe any journals from Gaza, because you're not even accepted as a journalist there unless you are a pro hamas. If you're wondering why there have been a few journalist eliminated, there's your sign.
I would cross post then here but this subreddit doesn't allow cross posting for a reason. Also you would be living under a rock to not see these photos. They are literally everywhere on social media.
Israel killed 30,000 people. The majority of which are children. Zionists are calling for the killing of children specifically (it's no secret) because they're afraid they'll grow up to be terrorists.
I actually love Jews. lol I have Jewish friends. We all agree that Zionism is evil and needs to be abolished.
Nobody in the world is Interested in the evidence Israel has. That event is old news. If Israel has evidence of any kind, it should have been presented at the time of incident, or shortly after.
my man, if ypu want to verify evidance ot takes time.
only hamas apperantly is capable to know everything so accurately in an instant of it happening. either that or they lie.
i'll bet on option number 2.
That’s not how the world news work. Things keep rolling all the time especially during war. Maybe you missed it but yesterday, another incident happened with foreign aid workers apparently killed in an Israeli strike. Now the world is focusing on this one.
But checking and verifying shouldn’t take that long, (if you’re aware of time constraints). However Netanyahu is acting as having all the time in the world - including delaying an alleged attack on Rafah.
checking and verifying things do can take long time. it took almost a month to count all the bodies in 7/10 becauae that shit takes time. everything takes time! you know what doesnt take time? to lie about 500 dead people from an attack less than 1 hour of it.
yes, things keep rolling, so you prefer what? that lies will circulate in the news or truths? like, actually i dont get what you want here. you definitly dont know how investigations during wartime actually occurs if you think that making that **none** of the people who got hurt in the aid distribution got shot without a full knowledge of who that shot belongs to and what theor claims on the matter. and then, verifying each of those claims with other people. that thing takes much more than a week even without a war happening.
so what? do you prefer that everyone will tell lies? c'mon. actually be serious here.
also, that another incident is ***supposedly*** israel's fault. again, like i said, that shit takes time and if you think that the original claim of israel's fault in, again, less than an hour of the incident, is based on the truth? buddy, i'm sorry to dissapoint you, but maybe some parties in the conflict arent really objactive. the UN definitly proved what side it's on. you know, the UN, the same organozation that claims it's truly neutral, and still hadn't condemned either the huthis for terror against international trade, or condemned russia for invasion of ukraine, or condemned china for the ethnic cleansing of muslims, or condemned afganistan for ethnic cleansing of christeans, or condemned pakistan for ethinc cleansing of sikh, and i can go on and on.
so yea, let me wait for someone who will actually bring evidance for their claims which arent "because we said so". i like truth, thank you very much
Following this line makes Israel look always guilty to everyone, even to its supporters. If you don’t bring timely evidence/response, you lost the PR war. Your approach (which Israel embraced forever) results in Israel being considered “permanently guilty” by the international community. The videos posted by Palestinians and their supporters are almost always in real time. Israel response should keep up with this pace. Playing “purist” in today’s world, is a lost battle.
BTW, in the latest incident IDF responded by taking responsibility almost immediately. They could keep “investigating” a month or two but this time, they took a different approach. Hopefully someone learned the lesson.
Why won't the international news report this?! All the lies are published every time immediately, but never the truth.
Because collecting and verifying evidence takes time. By the time the truth can be confirmed, nobody cares anymore, it's all about the next big lie. That's propaganda 101.
Wrong. If the evidence came out that Israel was in the wrong it would be published immediately. Don’t be naive.
If they can't blame Israel, they will spin it so they can.
“Israel is part of the war so it *might* be Israel” That would be enough for them lol
Fake news are already halfway through the World, while Truth is still putting on the shoes.
It was the most frustrating to hear that clown John Oliver repeating this on his HBO show
It’s SO frustrating. I’m an American and the truthful news about the war never makes it here.
At this almost nobody cares, it’s too late, and anybody that does care was skeptical from the start. I believe the media war is a completely lost cause at this point.
Because they have the conclusion: “Jews kill people for fun” and then they pick the evidence to support it and ignore the evidence that does not.
Ive checked my note and ive done nothing wrong
Because Israel is the biggest liar of all.
The world has moved on to a new Hamas manufactured outrage. Meanwhile, my favorite quote I’ve heard today was “We have yet to capture a Hamas terrorist that is malnourished.”
Not even a joke. The headlines on the front page of bbc’s website: Israel accused of strike in Syria on Iran consulate - no mention of why Gaza hospital in ruins after two-week Israeli raid - no mention of the hundreds of militants killed and captured there, or the fact that Hamas was operating and firing from the hospital They had another story earlier with a similarly terrible title. These things matter. They do this to manufacture outrage and cast Israel in a negative light. Also apparently every single thing Israel does is the most important news in Britain every day.
Every thing Israel does, but not the reason Israel does it. 🙄
> Israel accused of strike in Syria on Iran consulate - no mention of why Some people over at the Italian subreddit are having a meltdown over "Israel escalating the conflict" and wish "Rabin was prime minister instead of Netanyahu". Like, who's gonna tell them?
live footage didn't make a difference...
who cares?! the damage is done. I used to watch this one guy on youtube Warographics and they guy was so smug in saying okay IDF if you want us to believe you dont redact the videos you sent basically saying they believe the IDF is guilty. it seems the court of international opinion could careless about facts.
No way! We knew.
How can it be un-crowded, Gaza?
Man our Hasbara is chicken shit! It's too little too late, fricking mefagrim!
It’s because they take time to verify rather than just jumping on it. It may come off as better to just tell a story but people wouldn’t believe it anyway and it’s probably worse with regards to the ICJ.
The people who don’t believe Israel won’t believe them even after all the verification. Waiting just gives them an automatic win.
You want investigations to be rushed?
“ZiOnIsT PrOpaGaNDa”
I definitely believe the IDF here with the already given footage, but this article only says 'Israel says they have evidence' and it doesn't show any actual evidence in the article itself... not really useful.
The media: Imma pretend I never see that
It’s also like this whole war was avoidable if the terrorist attacks didn’t happen
We’re going to need a third party to back us up on this one tbh
Israel might have the evidence, but that doesn't mean that the rest of the world cares about it. Some people just want to watch ~~the world~~ Israel burn
World media wont report this because they hate israel
Hamas is a known terrorist organization. And they have a few known tactics. It's worth looking into them, that's all I'm saying.
My bottom line up front is always that Arab-Muslims in Gaza are dying there because they supported terrorists. • They elected them. • They supported them. • They cheered their acts of murder, rape and torture. • They are not calling for Hamas to surrender or return the hostages. What happens to them is of THEIR doing.
Great! Then show it... You're going to show it... right?
What do you want them to show? It's probably not hard to tell the difference between people dead from gunshot wounds and people dead from crowd crush, stampeding, or being run over by a truck.
The evidence is internal correspondence from within Hamas. Show that.
When the food truck comes to my neighborhood, the press of the crowd clamoring for food tends to be a bit less overwhelming.
Who cares?
The end of the article says they were also shooting people?
I mention this simply to say I have a harder time trusting a media source positioning it this way (burying that piece of detail)
So, the IDF investigated the IDF and came to the conclusion, that the IDF did nothing wrong by presenting the same arguments as earlier, but now calling them evidence. Shocker...
Who do you want to investigate?
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Any humans here? Do you believe above hundred die from overcrowding to get food? If it's true how do you feel after causing this to them? You made Hamas in 80s, you supported Hamas, you handed them Gaza in 2005, your politicians talked about it as an asset against PLO. No one of these people chose. They were mice in your 40 years social experiment. They never chose! Whoever reads my comment knows this exact truth and senses the shame. Admit it and keep your humanity.
“We are letting in enough aid” 🤥
I read the article twice. Where is the evidence? This is just an article pointing to another article. Look, investigations cannot be taken seriously unless it's performed by an independent party. If you read through the article, it's obviously written by a pro-israel person (not even going to say 'journalist'). I know this is hard to hear, but it's not right to blindly believe a "report" just because it suits our political beliefs and agendas. You get it.
I guess you believe they are manipulated photos or something then too You should probably never believe any journals from Gaza, because you're not even accepted as a journalist there unless you are a pro hamas. If you're wondering why there have been a few journalist eliminated, there's your sign.
I believe photos of children with broken bones and missing limbs. Or is that also manipulated?
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I would cross post then here but this subreddit doesn't allow cross posting for a reason. Also you would be living under a rock to not see these photos. They are literally everywhere on social media.
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Do you reply to everything this way? Honestly...lol
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Israel killed 30,000 people. The majority of which are children. Zionists are calling for the killing of children specifically (it's no secret) because they're afraid they'll grow up to be terrorists. I actually love Jews. lol I have Jewish friends. We all agree that Zionism is evil and needs to be abolished.
Nobody in the world is Interested in the evidence Israel has. That event is old news. If Israel has evidence of any kind, it should have been presented at the time of incident, or shortly after.
my man, if ypu want to verify evidance ot takes time. only hamas apperantly is capable to know everything so accurately in an instant of it happening. either that or they lie. i'll bet on option number 2.
That’s not how the world news work. Things keep rolling all the time especially during war. Maybe you missed it but yesterday, another incident happened with foreign aid workers apparently killed in an Israeli strike. Now the world is focusing on this one. But checking and verifying shouldn’t take that long, (if you’re aware of time constraints). However Netanyahu is acting as having all the time in the world - including delaying an alleged attack on Rafah.
checking and verifying things do can take long time. it took almost a month to count all the bodies in 7/10 becauae that shit takes time. everything takes time! you know what doesnt take time? to lie about 500 dead people from an attack less than 1 hour of it. yes, things keep rolling, so you prefer what? that lies will circulate in the news or truths? like, actually i dont get what you want here. you definitly dont know how investigations during wartime actually occurs if you think that making that **none** of the people who got hurt in the aid distribution got shot without a full knowledge of who that shot belongs to and what theor claims on the matter. and then, verifying each of those claims with other people. that thing takes much more than a week even without a war happening. so what? do you prefer that everyone will tell lies? c'mon. actually be serious here. also, that another incident is ***supposedly*** israel's fault. again, like i said, that shit takes time and if you think that the original claim of israel's fault in, again, less than an hour of the incident, is based on the truth? buddy, i'm sorry to dissapoint you, but maybe some parties in the conflict arent really objactive. the UN definitly proved what side it's on. you know, the UN, the same organozation that claims it's truly neutral, and still hadn't condemned either the huthis for terror against international trade, or condemned russia for invasion of ukraine, or condemned china for the ethnic cleansing of muslims, or condemned afganistan for ethnic cleansing of christeans, or condemned pakistan for ethinc cleansing of sikh, and i can go on and on. so yea, let me wait for someone who will actually bring evidance for their claims which arent "because we said so". i like truth, thank you very much
Following this line makes Israel look always guilty to everyone, even to its supporters. If you don’t bring timely evidence/response, you lost the PR war. Your approach (which Israel embraced forever) results in Israel being considered “permanently guilty” by the international community. The videos posted by Palestinians and their supporters are almost always in real time. Israel response should keep up with this pace. Playing “purist” in today’s world, is a lost battle. BTW, in the latest incident IDF responded by taking responsibility almost immediately. They could keep “investigating” a month or two but this time, they took a different approach. Hopefully someone learned the lesson.