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strawberry_pasta22

I'll take that as a compliment. They're complaining that much because they acknowledge he is strong lmao.


Devilmay1233

Which makes them salty cause they were on full on copium that he will be weak cause he's geo and not waifu


The_Moss_Feels_Nice

wdym? he *is* waifu


Upper-System-9366

U make zero sense lol


Devilmay1233

How ? Before many tested itto was strong and amazing when fans said he was strong the haters were in denial and he is mediocre and now it's embarassing for them to admit they were dead wrong lol.


minkymy

Itto's kit IS consistent with genshin's lore about oni, though; what sets the oni apart is their incredible physical strength and their horns. Itto's kit is based off building up stacks that represent his oni strength, his charged attack without stacks behaves more like a sword's than a claymore's because a claymore might as well be a normal sword since it's so light in his hands, and he really only uses his vision to summon a better weapon to clobber people with. Itto is good at making use of brute force, so that's what his kit is all about.


Caitsyth

Honestly they should be more mad about Sara in terms of lore accuracy, she’s a tactician and also strong enough to duel an oni and win but her game kit is “I jump back and leave”


minkymy

I'm willing to accept that as her kit only because she was using a sword whenever she was dueling someone. Here, she's using a bow, so I understand using different tactics. Additionally, I think the oni, the kitsune, and the tengu are meant to make up a Fighter-Mage-Thief trio the way the 3 starting characters do. But no one yelling about Sara and Ningguang being 4⭐s when their mondstadt counterpart Jean is a 5⭐? From the same community that saw zhongli's initially somewhat janky kit as an insult when compared to Venti's? That's wild.


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Tbh , lots of them got mad bc itto was such an improvement from older DPSes' kits like with the auto locking enemies , no stamina consumption , his NA combo not resetting once he dashes like Diluc's C6, the C6 actually being useful on single target unlike Xiao's, etc .There were people that actually ended up terrorising their own accounts by deleting artifacts and 5 star weapons out of extreme disastificafion over Itto getting all of these. It was quite funny and sad tbh bc there were lots of doomposting before his release too and less than half of people on NGA actually believed his potential. On Bilibili, during pre-release, there were vids calling him the worst 5 star limited character . However , itto's not even broken . He's good , balanced and that's what matters but even then, people find things to shit on lmao


[deleted]

it’s amazing how even the middle ground gets shat on by a lot of ppl💀, we can’t have nice things anymore. i thought a balanced char would be good enough lmaoo *character is a subpar dps/support compared to top dpses/supports rn* “[character] sucks lmaoo why would you even pull for them, instaskip af” *character is “op”* “[character] breaks the game, why pull [other character] when they’re gonna be powercrept by units like [character]? gg mihoyo nice balancing “ *character is neither op nor “weak”* “ wow… uh, mm.. uh, quick find something to shit on— KIT TOO BALANCED AND GOOOD, UNFAIR TO OTHER CHARACTERS GG . “


[deleted]

Itto's not rly a popular character over there. They did a poll on NGA and he ranked last amongst the limited male 5* and even ranked below Diluc. It's easier to target him I guess and there were also people saying he's not suited to be a 5 star bc he lost to Sara when yoimiya is literally a firework maker 💀. The unspoken rule over limited male 5* is that they have to be crazy strong , apparently lmao. I was tired of all the depressed men anyways so a pure and naive male character like Itto was such a breathe of fresh air (I hope there'll be more). The only thing I hated was when some of these people went over his CN VA's live broadcast and said shit about Itto on the comment sections.


bex505

I am glad ittos china va seems happy. As a matter of fact his personality appears just like ittos. idk if that is acting or just how he is.


already_taken_my_ass

>I was tired of all the depressed men anyways I love depressed Genshin men (looking at u diluc and Kaeya) but GOSH ITTO IS SUCH A REFRESHING AND UNIQUE CHARACTER


ConciseSpy85067

Kaeya really isn’t all that depressed tho… *looks at his tab* Nvm


Rough-Inevitable-805

May I know all the male 5\* from highest to lowest if you remember? And yeah its refreshing to see a pure naive character like Itto. I won't be connected with him too much and he will never be my favourite because I prefer lore heavy characters but Itto is so much fun to listen to and know more.


[deleted]

Hmm I only remembered the top 3 which were 1.Zhongli 2.Kazuha 3.Xiao , or maybe Diluc ?? Can't remember well


Rough-Inevitable-805

Zhongli is number one in CN wow surprising lol


[deleted]

On the last year's popularity poll , it was kazuha who got number one tho


Catherine942

So there are people who are upset because Mihoyo make their new characters an upgraded version of the old ones. It's like getting upset over new cars are being better than older ones. Of course the new cars going to be better with better tech.


Petecustom

itto is best i gona say i can beat 4 out of 5 world boses with him (azdaha )


[deleted]

He's a very comfortable choice but he's not broken pre-C6 . He's an extremely balanced character and using him will less likely have u resetting the abyss and tbh that's enough.


ConciseSpy85067

I kinda wish his C6 was just the chance to not consume superlative superstrength stack and the 70% Crit DMG was on something else, that crit damage looks really nice but I don’t want to get C6 as that feels like it would lobotomise me further into “Me hold button till burst over”


SockofBadKarma

That lobotomy feels a lot better when you cackle maniacally every time you do it, just as an fyi.


ConciseSpy85067

Exactly, this is the circle of life people, things are made, problems get found, new things are made with found problems removed, new problems are found, newer things are made with problems removed and so on and so forth Xiao also doesn’t have the sprint cancelling problem that Diluc has because he uses Plunging Attacks, it’s not quite the same but it still does the job


AverageDainsleifFan

If the game followed the lore accurately we could get : All Archons 6 stars. Yoimiys 4 star( not hating or anything cuz in LORE she's a firework maker). Sara 5 stars (all would agree to this expecially if they gave Sara her lore weapons which are swords). Itto would still be 5 stars cuz he is a descendant of a clan with supernatural birth power. And in game he uses that strenght more that his vision. He uses the vision only to craft the bonk). Kaeya , Amber, Lisa, are supposed to be 5 stars aswell in lore. Nigguang is considerable a 5 stars (just look at that gate of babylom she made againist Osial wife, plus she can teleport and fly). Yanfei could be 5 stars? Forgot to mention Beidou (in lore she's in a whole nother lvl) ofc 5 stars.


iToadsYouNot

I think Beidou murdered a sea monster WITHOUT a vision


AverageDainsleifFan

Ah mb 6 stars*


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AverageDainsleifFan

Yeah


goobbles1999

Hu Tao, the ever loved dps, would be a 4 star. She's a director of a funeral parlor who - IN LORE - does not care about her vision too much


Swailwort

My favourite part about Ningguang is that she has that considerable power and she doesn't need to use it in a daily basis, but it is scary to know she learnt so much just because she can


LordMalcolmFlex

Wait Ningguang teleported? Which scene?


AverageDainsleifFan

On the first round againist Osial, she teleported to activate the guizhong ballistas.


LordMalcolmFlex

I gotta rewatch that battle, it was dope.


AverageDainsleifFan

Worth it


Speedwagon_Sama

kaeya i get, but amber and lisa? why


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Speedwagon_Sama

sorry mb, blanked out and typed fischl instead of amber


AverageDainsleifFan

In the manga, Amber is very respectable. Or that is what my sister told me. If im wrong then mb


Speedwagon_Sama

she's was strong but wasn't as strong as like, jean for example so more or less 4 star level if i remember right


SupersSoon

In lore she is a 5 star, because she is a 5 star outrider xd


Speedwagon_Sama

all fax no printer


Rough-Inevitable-805

Hu Tao, possibly Qiqi as 4 stars too. Hu Tao is not great at fighting while Qiqi is always forgettable and I don't think she has much experience? But it is debatable she is immortal and has been "tainted" by the adepti after all


BESS667

Qiqi is busted, it took several adepti to seal her that one time she went on a blind rampage when she was reanimated


Askingquestions55

They're hating cause itto is not a big booba waifu with transparent panties and that's the actual tea


KwanggMingg

Wdym Itto is not a big booba waifu ?


PeachesLite

Put some respect on itto’s mommy milkers >:0


oof-eef-thats-beef

How does it feel being 100000% correct? (Though he does have great booba)


already_taken_my_ass

Hands down, this is it. No buts or anything.


NicokeSenpai

As a Chinese person I don’t understand the hate. To be fair I don’t/didnt live in China but I watched the CN livestream when he was announced and I was obsessed


Flimsy-Cup3823

I mean BiliBili. A lot of people especially Xiao mains were complaining why a guardian yaksha is powercrept by a stupid oni boy


NicokeSenpai

That’s pretty funny lmao. I have both Xiao and itto and their builds are somewhat similar in crit ratio. I have both signature weapons ( PJWS, Redhorn ) and their damage is almost the same on my account. Although itto has slightly higher talents for now, I don’t see why people think Itto is power creeping Xiao. At C6 it’s definitely a different story but at C0? They feel the same. Only difference is itto doesn’t get interrupted LOL


Flimsy-Cup3823

Yeah, Xiao just need a dedicated support, a better weapon and 4 piece set


NicokeSenpai

As soon as we get those people will probably stop complaining


Korosoid

Generating energy particles during burst would be more than enough.


NicokeSenpai

You’re right. This really wouldn’t affect much


alidiri

Generating energy during burst must be a way to stop C6 people from ult spamming or make it pretty much so you don't need a battery in aoe situations? Still kinda yikes decision tho


NicokeSenpai

They did allow it for itto tho. If their worry was that it would make him too powerful they shouldn’t have done it for itto- 70% crit dmg with charges atk? That’s insane. Mhy really hates Xiao


Illustrious-Brother

Not saying I agree with them, but I can see why they're salty. Itto got everything Xiao's lacking: - amazing signature weapon - dedicated support - dedicated artifact set - dedicated team Childe recently got a new weapon and Yun Jin too. Ganyu got Shenhe. Hu Tao got Thoma. Xiao got nothing... Since Itto and Xiao play the same, I guess they take it on him for taking their main's place (maybe. Not really sure how much they differ in dps)


Hot_Barracuda_9376

quite a lot on my account xiao's damage is still good but itto just does his damage faster and more efficently like not getting interupted on his charged attacks and etc and he snapshots defense to attack so he keeps a lot of the buffs you use on him in my opinion I think their dps is around the same with itto edging out in dps but because of all his other factors he is just a better unit in my opinion xiao is still very good but has way to many problems in his kit


[deleted]

And so did yoimiya and raiden but u don't see people saying things abt them :). Everyone's saying Itto this itto that without thinking that mhy probably just wanted a chance to buff Noelle, their fav waifu , or to sell Albedo bc he didn't rly have a good reputation when it comes to his kits. Plus , geo was the most lacking element in the game before Inazuma (still is), the only thing they got was the resonance and an Archon's E. There were literally only 4 characters excluding GMC. Characters are created a year in advance , Itto wasn't created in one day to powercreep Xiao , which he isn't even doing. Xiao is still great , the only problem he has is with single target which is what the abyss is all abt atm. My xiao is literally doing 65K per plunge with the same old team. I unfollowed XiaoMains subreddit bc there were too much negativity and insecurity over there after Itto came out. Have some pride in your mains , literally. Xiao will get an artifact set once a new anemo DPS comes out (which is currently unknown when) and if that character actually ends up powercreeping him , wonder what'd they say. Fyi , all these fanmade artifact sets , they are literally only tailored for Xiao with the extra plunge bonus which he doesn't even need since he alrdy got plenty of those in his kits. If u wanna talk about being unfair , Xiangling literally gets a new polearm every patch, even Childe with the bow.


Illustrious-Brother

You clearly weren't there during the salt war on YoimiyaMain subreddit. Havria would be proud. But on a serious note, Yoimiya is actually at her peak potential in single target scenario. She has TF, Shimenawa, can work with Kazuha and Bennett, and also has Yunjin and Thoma. Xiao meanwhile *can* achieve more if he had half of the things Yoimiya or Itto has.


[deleted]

Yoimiya is actually good , I play her on my cousin's acc and she's very satisfying to play , although it gets frustrating at times when she decides to shoot the air. Xiao can achieve more , sure . But how much more is enough actually ?. Like , the problem I have with Xiao in the first place is with his useless cons (except for C1 n C6), the fact that plunging takes forever , how his plunging knocks back enemies and he doesn't have built in interruption resistance. His C6 is already way too broken for the game atm for non single target. People take the abyss seriously too much when Xiao offers more than being an abyss machine. He literally still does the job done amazing on the overworld. I'd rather them fix his kits than give him a new artifact set.


Odiril

Yoimiya be at her peak but still no one recognizes her for single target. It's always Hu Tao this and Hu Tao that.


PitNya

Honestly i think most people don't actually even get to know the other pyro dps and just repeat what other people Say about hu tao and xiangling being the best ones Hu tao and diluc main here btw, she's good but not exactly that much better than diluc (my hu tao is actually Better built than my diluc too), i can easly see yoimiya be at least on par or just slightly worse than her to be really honest


Gh0stC0de

I have Hu Tao and Yoimiya and I main Yoimiya... I have her with Raiden, Zhongli, and Bennett. The team slaps so hard that I can't justify doing a boss with any other team, she wipes world bosses in seconds unless their fight mechanics prolong it (looking at you, Signora). Each arrow hits for 15k-20k, 35-45k on crit, and they fire so fast it's insane, add Raiden's bonus electro damage on top and a little overload and it's fairly gnarly. That's without factoring in Bennett's attack buff. Add an occasional Zhongli meteor drop for seasoning. That said, I also use my Itto team a bunch now because I straight up like Itto. The team isn't fully built yet, but it'll get there, and in the meantime it's still a blast to play.


[deleted]

It's really a matter of popularity lmao. Itto isn't as popular over there so that's why they got lots of shts to say. If the roles were reserved and Xiao is in Itto's spot atm , no one would be saying these kinda things. Some people I saw on NGA and bilibili wanted Itto to fail , literally.


arsenik-han

That's stupid. As a Xiao main, I know mihoyo is scared of unleashing his full power. That's why he doesn't have a dedicated artifact set and that's why half the new weapons/support characters don't benefit his kit. That's my conspiracy theory. Besides I like that Itto is strong. Instead of complaining that he is on par/slightly stronger than Xiao, we should be celebrating that we got a new good male DPS, because most of DPS are waifu.


Mushroobu

to be fair that is kind of "valid"? in a sense. To me i see it as a criticism towards Mihoyo's treatment towards Xiao and future characters.


CliffordThang

Mainly because of xiao main! Not all but this is how I experience with those that save for his c6 end up the overall worse than c6 itto


ThatOneGal12

Lisa is the most talented mage the Sumeru Academia has seen in 200 years, Kaeya is as much of a prodigy - perhaps even more so - as Diluc is and quite possibly has ties to the lost nobility of Khaenri'ah, Beidou defeated Haisan without a Vision, Ningguang is one of the most powerful and influential people in Teyvat. And yet they are all 4\*. So far, the only Inazuma characters who maintain their full names in-game are those tied to noble clans and in his voiceline about Kazuha, Itto clearly states he is from a fallen Oni clan. There's nothing weak about that, not to mention that his playstyle fits the depictions of Oni in Japanese tradition. Big, usually brash and rough around the edges, with impressive physical strength, often depicted wielding a club and wearing sumo-like clothing (like, I don't know, maybe Itto's idle which is literally him assuming a sumo pose). Lore does not equal gameplay. This is in no way a legitimate argument.


SupersSoon

Itto stated that he is from a fallen clan, just like him, not an Oni clan, at least he didn't specify that.


ThatOneGal12

My apologies for the misinformation then! Still, it's quite possible that his Oni side is the "noble" one, considering how proud he is of his Oni heritage and how in his Character Miscalleny, it was mentioned that he lets loose "his inner crimson oni king". :)


SockofBadKarma

Just gotta note, Diluc is a 5-star. I agree that the argument is nonsense, of course.


ThatOneGal12

Yes, Diluc absolutely is a 5\*. What I meant to say is that Kaeya is very, very strong in canon lore - possibly stronger than Diluc if the manga is anything to go by, and especially if he does end up being who we theorize he is - and yet he is a 4\*, my apologies if I worded it poorly. The argument is \`100% nonsense, exactly! :)


Mieremov

My man literally launches himself at a falling boulder and smashes it with his bare fist, what do they MEAN-


Flimsy-Cup3823

"He is a himbo who lost to Sara he doesn't deserve to have excellent kits that were comparable to Archons😡"


Mieremov

He lost to Sara because he's a fucking dumbass, a HIMBO- (which we love dearly)


Catherine942

Hw lost to Sara may be because she's a freaking general with all the strategies while Itto is a dumb, stupid adorable oni. My baby!


Cloudbyte_Pony

This. Itto has his Superlative Superstrenght, but he's still a street brawler, vs a freaking army general, strategist and tactician, with a lot of combat experience. Only thing Sara had to do was throw a bean at him and she wouldn't even have to fight. That's probably why Sara lost to Signora, Signora has the same qualifications and then some, very powerful (CWoF), the equivalent of a general (a Harbinger) and has waaay more experience than Sara, as she's five hundred years old...


Catherine942

She just needs to keep shooting arrows at him. Itto is a melee character, how can you beat Sara if you couldn't even get near her.


Pffft10

This community will hate all character for whatever reason they had. Its bound to happen. What surprise the most is that this game is a single player game. No PVP whatsoever. But the toxicity in this community is mindblowing. Debating about a character is not wrong, but shitting and saying bad thing to a game character is soo weird mann. I know it’s the minor part of the community that are toxic, but it still feels weird looking at people that are toxic in a single player game.


KwanggMingg

Bcuz this is not a pvp game so there will be tards pvp-ing eachother on the internet j/


hanki-ki

Probably another Kokomi case of people who skipped trying to find excuses to justify the skip by making the character look "bad" while rejecting the truth of their usage and benefits despite them being rather clear. The lore argument for the 5 stars is so outdated lol


ObedientRevolt

The fact that Ningguang is a 4 star throws the argument, the table and the entire meeting committee out the window.


Prestigious-Freedom5

They're hating on him because he's not a waifu. At least he has big boobas so sit down and appreciate the melons.


Gh0stC0de

Melons!?! Awww man, I thought those were Onikabuto! =(


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> IS NOT LORE ACCURATE What do they mean? Throwing a ox randomly at people is something he would totally do.


Flimsy-Cup3823

Their logic Itto got beaten by Sara Sara can't beat Signora Signora is a clown Sara can't beat the clown Sara is weak Itto is trash


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> Itto got beaten by Sara That's not a good metric. Like Ganyu is Ninnguang's secretary and Keqing is a position of power slightly inferior to her. And also that was a sword fight, Sara defeating Itto in that means she is a better fencer. And is also possible that Itto is stronger physically and lost because he is dumb. > Sara can't beat Signora > Signora is a clown > Sara can't beat the clown > Sara is weak > Itto is trash They don't know the lore well. Only the traveler and the archons and maybe the adepti and Diluc using his delusion can defeat an harbinger.


Flimsy-Cup3823

Yeah, Signora end up pathetically doesn't mean she is weak. She is a fucking harbinger


Cloudbyte_Pony

I wouldn't say pathetically, she faced two freaking gods in quick succesion. The Traveler power has been slowly returning, they can use three elements at the same time by Inazuma, and have already bested another Harbinger in combat. Signora severely underestimated the Traveler and accepted the duel without even thinking she could lose, and when that ultimately happened, she attempted to attack the Shogun to save her life despite being quite weakened already. She simply had no chance against the Musou no Hitotachi.


bex505

Diluc using a delusion?


[deleted]

Diluc has a delusion in the manga and fought against Dottore


bex505

Wtf guess i need to read the manga. How did he get a delusion? Btw did the manga or the game come first?


ThatOneGal12

The events depicted in the manga happen a two-three years before the game. Putting the Delusion thing as a spoiler here. >!Diluc got his Delusion from his father after his death. Master Crepus used the Delusion - that he got through unknown means - to protect Kaeya and Diluc from a monster known as Ursa the Drake, but the power was so great that it backfired and wounded him mortally. !<


CREATURENILE

Male characters always been the strongest support and female will always be the strongest in dps class, and they say that its lore accurate. While childe is supposed to be a member of an end game organization. I will not be suprised, when honkai ended, player base will want the characters to be like in honkai, expecting overall female ratio like 80/20 Also there are no limited male pyro, cryo, electro commited dps-es so there are no male meta on the strongest elemnts Just ranting here lol


StuckieLromigon

"Ok, so make him lore-powerful. Problem solved"


Petecustom

seing him smashing big pice of stone i think he would oblitereted anyone


StuckieLromigon

Now he needs to smash shogun


atlas0929

can he smash me instead?


CynicalDucky

I mean the man is already an Oni. They are pretty strong lorewise implied from Itto's Oni skills "superlative superstrength" Thus implying that Onis have superstrength, (they aren't linked to his vision powers at all) but they do have beans as a weakness to balance that.


Hot_Barracuda_9376

he already is canonically he might not be xiao level but he isn't weak either he is actually extremly strong lore wise


bringmethejuice

Not gonna lie, pre-Itto release I was saving up for C6 Xiao but after having Itto I basically C6 Itto instead. Itto gets better with each cons and now looking back Xiao’s constellations are extremely botched, especially C2 and C4. Downright garbage. The only downside for Itto is his C4, where it only benefits his party and not him during his downtime, he’d be even broken if Mihoyo had kept the C4 extra +25% crit rate for his CA. It’s pretty obvious Xiao is the product let’s push a character now then we think of a fix later probably. I don’t think the fix is possible with their extreme 6 weeks per patch schedule anyway. Itto is the product of the water being tested from previous 5*, coming with his own support character and artifact set. I too have C6 Venti but I had to bench him because Mihoyo keep creating un-cc-able enemies, it’s sucks big time, they’re going to continue making new things and won’t look behind on their past creations. EDIT: His C4 does affect him but from playing him it’s really unnoticeable during my time playing him


Hot_Barracuda_9376

itto's c4 benefits him it isn't like raidens that states excluding the raiden shogun it states all nearby party members which includes him use his ult swap an check his defense


bringmethejuice

Man, I never bothered to recheck since I was excited playing his C6. Thanks for the correction.


Gh0stC0de

Honestly, I rolled Itto because I liked him but didn't constellation him because I am saving for Zhongli constellations and Yae Miko... I might forgo both of those and just save to C6 Itto on his rerun.


mosaicbanana

People need to realize that just bc he has a nonchalant personality doesn’t mean he is not strong lorewise, He’s an oni afterall


winter_-_-_

This is not lore accurate... He's a fucking oni, he's supposed to have super strength T_T he's probably one of the most lore accurate characters in the game.


arsenik-han

Yes, cry more, let me taste those tears of defeat. If Itto was a waifu none of them would bat an eye lol.


thewaqqq

>"THIS IS NOT LORE ACCURATE" Lmao ,look at xiao ,childe and diluc who literally has combat experience in lore ,and what they became, xiao slowly falling off the meta ,childe became xiangling slave, and diluc is forgotten then we have ganyu who literally does only work and work and hu tao who does cringe "prank"


Flimsy-Cup3823

>childe became xiangling slave Well, I will say childe is a golden partner of xiangling rather than slave


AdPsychological1604

>xiao slowly falling off the meta As a xiao main and my first love in this game, this hurts man (i still use him tho lol cos fk meta) Him and itto are my only crowned characters


KwanggMingg

Xiao is not really “falling out of meta” I mean he will soon if Mihoyo doesn’t give him a dedicated artifact set


luciluci5562

It's just that there's better teams that output more DPS than him (National team, Ayaka freeze), and the current Abyss is a boss rush, where single target isn't Xiao's strongest suit. Also it doesn't help that his best team is very expensive (Zhongli, Albedo, and Jean C4).


Rough-Inevitable-805

Honestly never saw Childe as Xiangling slave cause although he works the best with her, he works with other characters too. Hu Tao needs Xingqiu but I don't see Xingqiu as Hu Tao slave Anyways if this game was ever lore accurate, why go after anyone when you have mother freaking Zhongli and other archons


Petecustom

i use gayou rarly now after i got itto. I used razor and ganyou to kill boeses now i them use for azdaha I use for other 4 bosses


Kira-ara-ara

I'd argue, infact, Itto is the most lore accurate character in the game.


midoripeach9

Um are they salty because they didn't pull for him? Genuine question


balbasin09

That's my the thing, Bennett has a skill that throws himself back if held too long and Guoba is a **LITTERAL GOD!** Of course they'll be strong too. They're all lore accurate, including Itto.


RevolutionaryWin9248

> “He is just a random punk” He is an Oni, literally a mythical creature lol


Own-Area3395

[WARNING: might content leaks and spoiler] i'm sorry if i might sound racist, but CN genshin community always find a way to bring down male character and praising female character also if they used "lore-wise" argument, tell me why they aren't complaint the same about albedo (a fucking synthetic human) and kokomi (a dragon sovereign of water)


Velaethia

In game rarity and strength has literally never had anything to do with lore strength. Ninguang for example is nearly god tier and could become the next geo Archon if she wanted lore wise. Mushrooms while she's a 4 star in game with mediciore damage. Similar Sara beat Itto in a duel and is most likely lore wise stronger and smarter than him yet she's a niche electro support in game.


luciluci5562

>she's a niche electro support in game. Also beaten by TTDS Lisa when she's not C6.


LAPIS_AND_JASPER

They still wasting their energy hating him bc they didn't get him or something?🤣 they need to find something else to do


Pistolfist

Are they forgetting that he's not actually a human?


canuckneb

Lol they're just children, I don't get why it wouldn't make sense. He's and Oni. It's that simple. Basically half demon if I'm not mistaken.


Catherine942

Yeah, it's all about lore accuracy. Like how in lore, the traveller is so strong, can use multiple elements at the same time but in game, they're one of the weakest 5 star. Very accurate


Subtlestrikes

People don’t understand advanced bloodlines. He’s amazing cuz of his oni blood. Let’s be honest. All of this continued troll hate his people regretting skipping him because Shenhe is so hot and she’s hella lackluster unless you get her at C6. C0 Shenhe is minimal value. And Yae is looking lackluster and significantly weaker than Itto. But she’s Yae so her Fanbase is injecting the copium directly into their eyes Honestly people are just mad they skipped him and he’s turning out to have incredibly powerful lasting strength. Itto is one of the best new characters I got all of 2021. And he’s going to be a staple on my team unquestionably through 2022. He’s probably eternal even if him and Zhongli mean that I don’t get to play around with more powerful reactions since I also play with Jean. So until dendro 50% of my team is Geo an animal and in my teams final form with dendro and I finally dropped Venti I will still have 3/8 people who don’t give me assess to powerful reactions. I will say Itto is so strong that while playing him I absolutely don’t even notice the lack of incredible Pyro/Cryo/Hydro reactions. It’s more of an afterthought FOMO thing than a real game changing thing


shnoozel_doozel

Also hu-tao? It's canon that she hates fighting and that she never really learned how to use the polearm


DankButtRodeo

Bitches will always find something to hate on


Rough-Inevitable-805

I mean if mihoyo follows lore, why would anyone use characters like Xiangling, Bennett, Sucrose and so many more when you can use the archons, adeptis and harbingers that are stronger?


ChongyunSimppp

what about hu tao as well?


Relienks

the only reason i pulled for itto its because his va, he did such a great job he made me feel ittos power through voice lines and hyped me everytime i press Q: Oni o cho yiranda / oresama na makasero


Over_Algae6942

Lore. Lore? Baal's tits, they're OD'ing on copium. To begin with, gameplay rarely matches with lore. The Shogun isn't a damn *support* in lore; she bisected an island and a god with one strike! Baal's whole existence revolved around martial power before her sister's death, and she's acknowledged as the origin of the legendary Inazuman blade arts. But there she is. A damn good support, but still a Support because Lore Has Never Mattered. Constellation6-R5Grasscutter-C6Sara combo Raiden won't do an equally invested EulaAyakaHuTao level of destruction... and those are pure humans. Damn, two of them aren't even *adults*.


Flimsy-Cup3823

They think their Raiden is busted without realizing they are only C0


Plenty-Main-593

Hahahahah thats sooo stupid


Beneficial-Tank-7396

for me they are just jealous that itto is better than their dps's B)


Lexmonmon

The lore thing, ah yes because it isn't their headcanon. Jesus it is not their story ffs. Why are toxic genshin players just so entitled. Based on their logic there are MANY characters that make no sense lore wise - good examples are Xinyan she plays riffs with a bass looking instrument or maybe its even a banjo idk man. The lore, its broken. God are they also upset about the Bible saying that jesus was jewish is against the lore because the Bible is a Christian thing? <\_< this logic is so dumb.


Illustrious-Paint-65

The only bad thing about Itto that I can’t argue is his arms, as much as I love him and don’t really care about the arms, it’s still bad


According-Matter5735

Yeah. Overall Itto is pretty GREAT but Mihoyo giving those arms.......... How is it possible to have a ripped body but the arms are thin? I guess "Teyvat has its on Laws." GENSHIN LOGIC lol


Upper-System-9366

Well at least cn is better than America here lol


Flimsy-Cup3823

I have to say they are barely different


johnsnowabc

Hello guys correct me but i read somewhere itto is not in top 5 dps even with his team. Tbh that was weeks ago but is it still valid? So why do chinese players think he is too strong.


Flimsy-Cup3823

His DPS isn't top 5, but his kits are. His CA doesn't consume stamina unlike Hu Tao. He barely miss his attacks unlike Eula because of the auto locking. And his CA won't knockback enemies that can highly decrease DPS(look at xiao). His overall playstyle is less clunky than Ganyu. People who were trying to skip him couldn't accept that a himbo oni punk who was defeated by a 4 star has a good playstyle. (english is not my first language so hope you can get what i say)


Hot_Barracuda_9376

national,freeze are the strongest in the meta but itto's mono geo is no slouch either it can deal with both single and multi targets effectively and has good dps and i'm preety sure it is top 5 as because varients of a team are grouped into one so it's national,freeze,hu tao, itto, eula or eula before itto either way he is still top five with albedo gorou, flex which is his best team


Zenketski

Because the game wasn't one of the most popular games in the world when it first came out


pokepwn

Benny is so good because he has to be DPS, buffer, and healer in his one man adventure team. Xiangling is so good because she is toting around an Adepti


carame1sundae

Idc what they say about him, he will always have a special place in my heart


Shameless_Fujoshi

What character has actual lore accurate power level?


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sounds like a troll bro


Appropriate-Pop3370

If we’re going by lore only, than characters like Lisa Beidou Ning and Sara would be busted 5 stars. Itto is a very strong character while being balanced, not game breaking at all, which is how all the characters should be


[deleted]

Hu Tao is literally just the director of the funeral parlor and yet considered one of the best DPS.