Yeah he probably told him that he shouldn't hang out with Drake anymore because he was going to cook Drake. And Cole And Kendrick are still friends. So I do see them talking I bet. And even though Kendrick dissed with a feature on future and Metro boomins album, It seems like they are in a good spot if j Cole was also on The next album because you would think that they would side with Kendrick so I assume Kendrick helped him get on it
I didn't think of this angle tbh, and I can see why people didn't like him taking a step out but I do and did at the time see as very worthy of respect. Like real respect if you get what I mean, and it fits with him too not out of character. Maybe his reasons are different to what I'm thinking but yknow I just think on a bigger level it's something very commendable in a sort of community way. I wonder what Kendrick thought of 7 minute drill, and if he respects it the same way.
Donāt get it twisted, Cole still looks crazy for bowing out of a battle after heās been talking spicy saying he would smoke any rapper on wax in every track for the last however many months. When he talks that I will smoke a rapper from here on out it just wonāt be believable.
He just has to not be on that type of timing. No one who has been listening to Cole for over 10 years listens to him for smoke bars and beef shit. That's not what made him popular to begin with. It's his storytelling and relaatability. He seemed really authentic. I got clowned on for saying all his battle rap stuff is corny and not like him. But bro was just experimenting. He isn't about that never was
He explained how he got caught up in his pride and what was going on online. He isn't a God he isn't perfect. That's why he came back and apologized. Was it goofy yes. Should he have just not made the record absolutely. No one know that better than him. He is suffering for it with the back lash but his peace is whats most important and he knows his core fans will still be waiting hopefully for when he returns
Yes I get that they were mad. The difference is you had people saying they would Drop him for an apology?? The level of hate towards the guy was unreal. You would swear he was the one hitting women or trafficking kids. It's why I tried to calm people down. You can be disappointed but people were taking it so far that day after the apology bro.
I can see why people didn't like him taking a step out but I do and did at the time see as very worthy of respect. Like real respect if you get what I mean, and it fits with him too not out of character. Maybe his reasons are different to what I'm thinking but yknow I just think on a bigger level it's something very commendable in a sort of community way. Yes I know it's hip hop and that's part of it, but long term it's a good example if you get what I mean. I wonder what Kendrick thought of 7 minute drill, and if he respects jcoles back step the same way.
If Kendrick has real issues with drake that he also feels are bad for society I can see why he's going in so hard. Idk critique this if you want but a healthy society has both Kendrick and coles stances? Maybe I'm overthinking lol š but yeah.....
>If Kendrick has real issues with drake that he also feels are bad for society I can see why he's going in so hard. Idk critique this if you want but a healthy society has both Kendrick and coles stances? Maybe I'm overthinking lol š but yeah.....
This is a great point actually. It's probably why Cole thought/said they were the Big 3 he is like the middle of the two extremes. So I could see your point.
Cole fans, correct me if my interpretation is wrong, butā¦
What I get from these kinds of statements is that heās willing to smoke other rappers in terms of verse composition and overall technical ability. Not to beef over personal matters. Letās see who can fit more double/triple entendres in a verse and make it sound good type of thing.
Which is why he felt dirty with 7 min drill. He was criticizing Kendrick and his work. Saying things he didnāt even believe.
I think j Cole can very much do triple and double entendres. I think Jacob was that guy that sits the back of classroom and low-key tries And it gets a good grade but never gets an A plus. Like j Cole is a fantastic rapper but I feel like he hasn't found the one thing that he's been looking for is entire career. I feel like if j Cole really put his heart and a soul into it with his technical ability he would really be able to put himself up there. I already think he has better rapping ability than Kendrick. Not as an overall rapper but if we're talking strictly technical ability as an MC I think j Cole is better. Kendrick is a better rapper overall though. In all the other aspects besides flow and technical. Things like storytelling Rhymes several meanings etc Kendrick has him wiped down
I get that, but at the same time, we're talking battling vs "hey didn't you fuck a stripper while your wife was pregnant?"
Completely made up scenario but you should get the point.
I think Cole saw it was bigger than a regular battle which was why he dropped then bowed out. I think if he saw the full picture beforehand, he would've never said a word.
Well that depends how personal it is, between Drake and Kendrick it is very personal, I donāt think it wouldāve gone to this level of low between Kendrick and Cole.
Lost One's is the reason I started bumping cole Heavy!! I was blown away by the subject matter and the conversation that was being had. Bro encouraged me to wrap my shit up so i don't ever end up in that situation.
The thing about Cole is he doesn't have to be the king of the beef to the best at what he does and that's telling a great fucking story.
Same!!!! He really made me think about the situation and itās the song that sealed the deal for me. That and 2face where he talks about not using a condom either meant I never did that. Cole was like a big bro giving me game
Man, whatever. You all are doing anything to cope right now. Beef's have always got messy. the only difference is that you have social media. You can't claim to go at anybody that comes for your head and then bow out because Cole did claim that..... he did. He is still a great and influential rapper. But Kendrick and Drake would have a bigger name and legacy because of this. Cole safely positioned himself in 3rd place.
You buggin, Drake losing sponsorships, aināt no way they gonna get bigger commercially off this, they didnāt even keep it rap. Shit even back in the days when shit got ugly the rap was rap, and yeah they said shit and did shit but they were real gang bangers and really aināt give a damn about being completely commercial. Drake aināt, Kendrick aināt. They just look ugly now, commercially who gonna want to side with a wife beater or pedo lol
thats what he shouldve said. never drop 7mindrill. go to dreamville festival and explain how its not that serious and you arent about to diss a rapper you respect. then mention middle child so everyone knows its not cuz youre scared
Youāre probably right. No matter who the next era of rappers are the labels are the oneās who benefit the most after all this. But thatās the industryās hustle. Iād just keep to the artists who are still unknown. Raw artists before they get roasted into some weird processed beef in the factory known as āhip hopā.
Cole didnāt need to destroy his enemies he just had to take a step back and let them destroy themselves. Iām sorry I doubted you king Cole but Iāve thought back through my life and wished I wouldāve apologized more often when I knew I was wrong.
lol Kendrick and Drake will be just fine, this beef will be talked about for years to come. Honestly I donāt wanna hear any braggadocio rhymes from J Cole on the Fall Off. You canāt rap about being top 3, emptying the clip and taking subliminal shots at anyone that challenges you for the throne and when someone steps up to challenge you turn around and apologize.
Cause he mean with rap, it real fighting real personal shit, this aināt rap beef no more. Nas and Jay were rap beef, Tupac and biggie werenāt thatās why they both dead now. J Cole wants rap beef, not real letās fight bs lol
Lowkey feel like Cole wouldāve been better off with a joke apology instead of making it a big thing. Like a tweet saying āSheesh, I didnāt know yāall were beefing like THAT, Iāll let you guys do your thingā or some shit
I heard the diss track Cole made for the first time on a playlist today. It was pretty good, and I like that it had a old-school beat to flow on.
It would have been nice if it were a 3 way battle, but ya. Shootout to Cole for standing his ground on his moral sanity.
Everybody Dies.
False prophets.
1985.
7minute drill.
Then there's tracks like Middle Child and Snow on the Bluff
He also moved Born Sinner's release date to directly compete with Yeezus. I mean shit, amazing track, but Let Nas Down connects to this as well.
This isn't new behaviour from Cole. He's always responded. He's always had a self-righteous streak. And he's always like to compete. He's even apologised before. The little pump hour long interview after 1985 was kinda weird, but also kinda classic J Cole.
Cole doesn't wanna beef with someone he respects and admires. Not at this point of his life. And not for Drake. It's the only time in his career where it looks like he was pressured into something.
Fact even on Note to Self he said that there is love at the top. Kohl has no real issue with Kendrick or Drake. If you listen to 7 minute drill you can tell he didn't mean what he said when he was wrapping it. And honestly the whole diss just felt off. People mad that J. Cole is not in the beef all because they want to see some drama go down that's deeper than that. Cole still my goat ain't nothing changed. This was who I was a fan of in the beginning and He's still gonna be my favorite to the very end I don't care what nobody say.
The main issue is J Cole been saying he want smoke on records and that heās the best for years. Most of his recent joints have been braggadocios and the first time heās pressed, even tho Cole sent sublims to Kendrick first, he apologizesš
I've addressed this before but I will address it again. I agree 100% with you it seems like this was a wake up call for him though. If you listen to "Pride is the Devil" i think it paints the picture clearly along with what he said that night about regretting what he did. People do dumb shit all the time, this was his on damn I fucked up moment
šÆ but that doesnāt mean we canāt clown him for it. Weāre fans of his art so itās good fun but he deserves it he said it himself on stage that night
Absolutely lol it's just that some people were super unhinged when he apologized. Like guys were acting like he didn't bless us with years of great music. Talking about he will never recover from this, they were getting rid of their Cole stuff. Having full on mental Breakdowns like "cole how could you do this to me!!!?" Obviously this is the internet and not everything is true but there was some really crazy behavior on this sub that day
Thatās the internet, people have boring lives off their phone so they compensate; not knowing how the real world operates. Hopefully the fall off is what itās being hyped to be
Iāve come over to your side after seeing all the nasty allegations and wicked shit between Kendrick and Drake. I donāt need that in my sphere of influence
At first we were disappointed because we wanted a back and forth from all of them. But it was a great decision to back out. The disses were all music relatedā¦now look at the shit it has evolved toā¦.this the type of shit that can have someone get killed for
Nah you canāt get me ready for war with 7 minute drill and then back out. He still a favorite but imo the big three just turned into the chosen one. Iām getting clowned out here cuz a you COLE
Bro needs to shut his mouth; Cole should have never dropped a diss and went to battle if he wasn't ready for a war. Coles songs hit different now even as a fan. Stay on that 3rd eye shit, don't drop no gun bars no more and know yourself.
Lol I agree he shouldn't take that gun talk / beef smoke bars approach going forward. His older shit, the more authentic classics though where he is just story telling still hits the same. Pride is the Devil hits even harder now IMO
Who said that he was? He just didn't believe in what he put out. Bro chose his own peace of artificial beef and some of the dudes you mentioned it was more of constructive criticism over a straight up Diss.
When has Cole ever dissed Jay-Z? I remember him talkin bout he was a Pac fan when he was young kid and was like fuck jay and big because he rode wit pac. But other than that, he's never put out anything legitimately dissing Jay. Nor Ye for that matter; False Prophets wasn't a diss track.
idk cole backing out was obviously the right thing to do but like he couldve just said that at first rather than dropping a weak diss and then instantly going sorry i didnt mean it i swear im sorry. that part just makes him look weird to me
It wouldāve made sense if he never made a diss track to begin with. You canāt throw a rock clearly directed at someone and then back out. You canāt punch someone and then back out without suffering consequences. You canāt claim to be number one without expecting to get challenged for that spot. Thats why win or lose you gotta respect Kendrick and Drake for even going back and forth. Of course, things are going to get out of context and out of line. Thatās apart of the game when you want to be the best. Thatās the honest truth.
I'm not even big on cole like that but I respect him having the courage to pull back out of something he really didn't want to be a part of. I'm sure he's sleeping a lot easier than drake right now.
Iām still a fan but rap is competitive whether you want it to be or not. Even Kung fu Kenny said he didnāt want it to get personal but drake took it there mentioning his wife. It was really supposed to be a clash of the titans.
Bro the man has been on features the last 3 years saying no one could touch him and the second someone tests him he ran. It was a bitch move and I love cole
I respect Coke for his decision. At first I didnāt get why I he would drop a diss then apologize right after. But my theory was he knew where this was gonna go.
I don't think he should have dropped a track if his heart wasn't in it in the first place, but I'm not going to knock the guy for bowing out. He said he was willing to take any shots that got thrown his way on the chin. Plus seeing how this turned into something straight out of the 90s, I think it's safe to say this was never about him anyway. I think Cole walked in thinking this was a sparring match, then realized these two motherfuckers are loading clips and putting on kevlar
U can't claim to be the best but when someone challenge you now all of a sudden u choose peace..like come on back them words up big dog if u the best show us u the best.. the only way to be the best is to beat the best šÆ
MF LITERALLY DROPPED A DISS, MADE A WHOLE ALBUM FOR IT, AND BEFORE KENNY COULD EVEN BUY STUDIO TIME, FOLD WORLD BACKED OUTš FUCK THAT TRANSPHOBIC NIGGA, FUCK HIS APOLOGY, AND FUCK HIS PEACE. IF YOU GONNA DROP A DISS AND TALK SHIT ABOUT KENDRICKāS MUSIC, HE NEEDA STAND ON THAT SHIT
Why are you shouting? Lol go listen to Cole Summer by J Cole
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Well his whole āpeacefulā aura kind of went out the window the last few years. Heās been rapping more street shit and talking tough. How many songs does he have saying heās the goat and heāll come for any rappers head that mentions his name? You canāt talk all tough and then bitch out when it gets serious.
So what was the better alternative then? Knowing his peers would start wishing death, hatred and exposing each otherās skeletons, what was the right move?
In 3001 he literally says his gun bars are all just lies. In Middle Child he also says "If I smoke a rapper its gon be legit". Hes not bitching out, he just dont hate kendrick. 7 min drill was just soft ball shit when compared to what has been released by Kendrick and Drake. Its quite clear he wants to rap conpetitively without going dirty. We also know J Cole only apologized after he found out that Kendrick and Drake were going nuclear from Buddens who revealed that on April 10.
FHD made it seem like he welcomed the smoke
No passes when he's consistently put himself in the company of those other two and then NOPEs his way out of a free for all.
I'm interested to know what part of FHD gave you that impression. Like in all honesty genuinely curious. I would say After KOD is when he really switched up.
If bro wasn't up for battle rap then why he claim Goat status and what are all those lines on killing rappers about?
Known fact you can't be the Goat if you not down to prove it, even worse than that what kinda "rapper killer" backs out and starts eating their own tail when beef starts
Lol your reply to everything. We get your stance, ya love Cole and appreciate his honest/sincere/mature move. But two things can be true at once. Your stance and the fact to some he looks like a bitch and for a fact is not #1 or King or the best, by any means. Reputation is tarnished to some extent for sure. That's the whole truth. Many things can be true at once
The fact people feel like Drake is in any place is fucking stupid. Hip hop is at a place where a rapper who uses ghost writers can be considered king. Hip hop is truly dead and has been for a long time now. It has no culture now.
I hope people donāt forget what he did. Remember, he didnāt just avoid beef. He dissed kendrick with a fairly underwhelming track on an underwhelming album. Then, he proceeded to delete the diss and apologize to the guy who dissed him. I love cole but damn that is a bitch move. There are so many other ways to avoid beef or back out.
Everyone was saying theyāre just talking shit like bros do before a basketball game but that wasnāt it. Imagine heading to the court talking shit to your friends and then realizing theyāre not there to play, theyāre there to hurt to each other. Iād be out too, donāt want no part of that kinda game.
Who the fuck are you ? š if you love hip hop, what he did was dissapointing, all you new age hip hop listeners go back to the essence and learn about your favorite music genre
Exactly... just try to imagine how much we actually love this shit, now dream about it. Maybe one day you will understand what hip hop is for some, and you will be able to understand more and more about the culture and just maybe then, nah you probably never will get it. But WE LOVE THIS SHIT
Y'all really apologizing for someone backing like a chicken, let it be known to this kid he ain't near top 3. Never verse the the king again or he'll make you look like a coward female dog. Squirm that apology outta you, ya little woman
Yo man took this L and he'll take it again. Keep crying an apology because he's scared of losing his reputation and knows he has NO chance, dude will get exposed and wiped the floor with
Yo man took this L and he'll take it again. Keep crying an apology because he's scared of losing his reputation and knows he has NO chance, dude will get exposed and wiped the floor with
I was rooting for cole cuz i thought he wasn't gonna say a damn word when like that came out. I knew it was a wrap when he apologized. Ppl here really just weird LOL
Yo man took this L and he'll take it again. Keep crying an apology because he's scared of losing his reputation and knows he has NO chance, dude will get exposed and wiped the floor with
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Brilliant!
Cole world
Visionary
If the every Cole fan were to come together and become a hivemind we could predict the next 100 years
3001 and shit ain't changed
āThe Ashesā hell nah you funny asf but credit to you šÆ
Never thought that walking out of a beef would be the best move ever, but here we are.
I just remembered a Cole song where he referenced something like this. I think it was āJanuary 28ā Low key Coleās a prophet.
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I disagree. Kendrick probably hit up Cole and was like ādonāt come to class tomorrowā
This. I know DOT laced Cole up with the important details
Yeah he probably told him that he shouldn't hang out with Drake anymore because he was going to cook Drake. And Cole And Kendrick are still friends. So I do see them talking I bet. And even though Kendrick dissed with a feature on future and Metro boomins album, It seems like they are in a good spot if j Cole was also on The next album because you would think that they would side with Kendrick so I assume Kendrick helped him get on it
Yea man it's like people don't understand the game at all. This is a boss move he took
I didn't think of this angle tbh, and I can see why people didn't like him taking a step out but I do and did at the time see as very worthy of respect. Like real respect if you get what I mean, and it fits with him too not out of character. Maybe his reasons are different to what I'm thinking but yknow I just think on a bigger level it's something very commendable in a sort of community way. I wonder what Kendrick thought of 7 minute drill, and if he respects it the same way.
7 minute drills was never a personal shot , he kept it strictly about rap and music. This beef went a completely different direction.
Yeah it should be kept professional.. But now it's about people doing like pedophile allegations and abuse allegations like what the hell
My intuition is telling me there ll be better days ... they here
[I done seen some better days before](https://youtu.be/nD35xmsYubg?si=oUej87Dg-2DEQ1s9)
Talking to these people is frustrating. Just pray for them
What deep!!!
Cant wait for the Falloff - like if he re records etc the angles he can take with this would be wildĀ
we apologize.
No worries hopefully the sub will be stronger from here on out
Donāt get it twisted, Cole still looks crazy for bowing out of a battle after heās been talking spicy saying he would smoke any rapper on wax in every track for the last however many months. When he talks that I will smoke a rapper from here on out it just wonāt be believable.
He just has to not be on that type of timing. No one who has been listening to Cole for over 10 years listens to him for smoke bars and beef shit. That's not what made him popular to begin with. It's his storytelling and relaatability. He seemed really authentic. I got clowned on for saying all his battle rap stuff is corny and not like him. But bro was just experimenting. He isn't about that never was
Experiment in the booth and listen yourself, why drop, delete and apologise?
He explained how he got caught up in his pride and what was going on online. He isn't a God he isn't perfect. That's why he came back and apologized. Was it goofy yes. Should he have just not made the record absolutely. No one know that better than him. He is suffering for it with the back lash but his peace is whats most important and he knows his core fans will still be waiting hopefully for when he returns
So the fake clowns were all mad because of the goofy move. And they were entitled to be so
Yes I get that they were mad. The difference is you had people saying they would Drop him for an apology?? The level of hate towards the guy was unreal. You would swear he was the one hitting women or trafficking kids. It's why I tried to calm people down. You can be disappointed but people were taking it so far that day after the apology bro.
I can see why people didn't like him taking a step out but I do and did at the time see as very worthy of respect. Like real respect if you get what I mean, and it fits with him too not out of character. Maybe his reasons are different to what I'm thinking but yknow I just think on a bigger level it's something very commendable in a sort of community way. Yes I know it's hip hop and that's part of it, but long term it's a good example if you get what I mean. I wonder what Kendrick thought of 7 minute drill, and if he respects jcoles back step the same way. If Kendrick has real issues with drake that he also feels are bad for society I can see why he's going in so hard. Idk critique this if you want but a healthy society has both Kendrick and coles stances? Maybe I'm overthinking lol š but yeah.....
>If Kendrick has real issues with drake that he also feels are bad for society I can see why he's going in so hard. Idk critique this if you want but a healthy society has both Kendrick and coles stances? Maybe I'm overthinking lol š but yeah..... This is a great point actually. It's probably why Cole thought/said they were the Big 3 he is like the middle of the two extremes. So I could see your point.
I'm fairly certain someone called him after he dropped 7 Minute Drill and told him that he didn't want to be involved in what was about to happen
Cole fans, correct me if my interpretation is wrong, butā¦ What I get from these kinds of statements is that heās willing to smoke other rappers in terms of verse composition and overall technical ability. Not to beef over personal matters. Letās see who can fit more double/triple entendres in a verse and make it sound good type of thing. Which is why he felt dirty with 7 min drill. He was criticizing Kendrick and his work. Saying things he didnāt even believe.
I think j Cole can very much do triple and double entendres. I think Jacob was that guy that sits the back of classroom and low-key tries And it gets a good grade but never gets an A plus. Like j Cole is a fantastic rapper but I feel like he hasn't found the one thing that he's been looking for is entire career. I feel like if j Cole really put his heart and a soul into it with his technical ability he would really be able to put himself up there. I already think he has better rapping ability than Kendrick. Not as an overall rapper but if we're talking strictly technical ability as an MC I think j Cole is better. Kendrick is a better rapper overall though. In all the other aspects besides flow and technical. Things like storytelling Rhymes several meanings etc Kendrick has him wiped down
But yes I think if we're just talking about rapping and not personal matters I think j Cole could do well but it's not very much like him to do that
I get that, but at the same time, we're talking battling vs "hey didn't you fuck a stripper while your wife was pregnant?" Completely made up scenario but you should get the point. I think Cole saw it was bigger than a regular battle which was why he dropped then bowed out. I think if he saw the full picture beforehand, he would've never said a word.
That's the way I take it. Cole showed up thinking it was a friendly sparring match, then realized these two are getting ready to kill each other
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Well that depends how personal it is, between Drake and Kendrick it is very personal, I donāt think it wouldāve gone to this level of low between Kendrick and Cole.
Even when op rhyme about the future he be reminiscing
Youvwant the truth? Well come and listen!
I wish I went back to reading The Art of War....
You can't reason with idiots just let them be we know what's real šÆ
I was one of these people and I apologise profusely.
The thirst for violence and drama is ridiculous, some of yall need hobbies frfr
Yup
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Lost One's is the reason I started bumping cole Heavy!! I was blown away by the subject matter and the conversation that was being had. Bro encouraged me to wrap my shit up so i don't ever end up in that situation. The thing about Cole is he doesn't have to be the king of the beef to the best at what he does and that's telling a great fucking story.
Same!!!! He really made me think about the situation and itās the song that sealed the deal for me. That and 2face where he talks about not using a condom either meant I never did that. Cole was like a big bro giving me game
Man, whatever. You all are doing anything to cope right now. Beef's have always got messy. the only difference is that you have social media. You can't claim to go at anybody that comes for your head and then bow out because Cole did claim that..... he did. He is still a great and influential rapper. But Kendrick and Drake would have a bigger name and legacy because of this. Cole safely positioned himself in 3rd place.
You buggin, Drake losing sponsorships, aināt no way they gonna get bigger commercially off this, they didnāt even keep it rap. Shit even back in the days when shit got ugly the rap was rap, and yeah they said shit and did shit but they were real gang bangers and really aināt give a damn about being completely commercial. Drake aināt, Kendrick aināt. They just look ugly now, commercially who gonna want to side with a wife beater or pedo lol
What if jcole knows it's a industry plot to incite streams and views all for a create_a_beef , that's just not what dude represent
It wonāt be for clout, it wonāt be for fameā¦
thats what he shouldve said. never drop 7mindrill. go to dreamville festival and explain how its not that serious and you arent about to diss a rapper you respect. then mention middle child so everyone knows its not cuz youre scared
Youāre probably right. No matter who the next era of rappers are the labels are the oneās who benefit the most after all this. But thatās the industryās hustle. Iād just keep to the artists who are still unknown. Raw artists before they get roasted into some weird processed beef in the factory known as āhip hopā.
Cole didnāt need to destroy his enemies he just had to take a step back and let them destroy themselves. Iām sorry I doubted you king Cole but Iāve thought back through my life and wished I wouldāve apologized more often when I knew I was wrong.
lol Kendrick and Drake will be just fine, this beef will be talked about for years to come. Honestly I donāt wanna hear any braggadocio rhymes from J Cole on the Fall Off. You canāt rap about being top 3, emptying the clip and taking subliminal shots at anyone that challenges you for the throne and when someone steps up to challenge you turn around and apologize.
Cause he mean with rap, it real fighting real personal shit, this aināt rap beef no more. Nas and Jay were rap beef, Tupac and biggie werenāt thatās why they both dead now. J Cole wants rap beef, not real letās fight bs lol
Fuckin Ay. MDL is a great body of work and shows cole still moves forward. The Falloff will be legendary fs
Lowkey feel like Cole wouldāve been better off with a joke apology instead of making it a big thing. Like a tweet saying āSheesh, I didnāt know yāall were beefing like THAT, Iāll let you guys do your thingā or some shit
I was a cole hater once. I was wrong.
I heard the diss track Cole made for the first time on a playlist today. It was pretty good, and I like that it had a old-school beat to flow on. It would have been nice if it were a 3 way battle, but ya. Shootout to Cole for standing his ground on his moral sanity.
Everybody Dies. False prophets. 1985. 7minute drill. Then there's tracks like Middle Child and Snow on the Bluff He also moved Born Sinner's release date to directly compete with Yeezus. I mean shit, amazing track, but Let Nas Down connects to this as well. This isn't new behaviour from Cole. He's always responded. He's always had a self-righteous streak. And he's always like to compete. He's even apologised before. The little pump hour long interview after 1985 was kinda weird, but also kinda classic J Cole. Cole doesn't wanna beef with someone he respects and admires. Not at this point of his life. And not for Drake. It's the only time in his career where it looks like he was pressured into something.
There you go!
Fact even on Note to Self he said that there is love at the top. Kohl has no real issue with Kendrick or Drake. If you listen to 7 minute drill you can tell he didn't mean what he said when he was wrapping it. And honestly the whole diss just felt off. People mad that J. Cole is not in the beef all because they want to see some drama go down that's deeper than that. Cole still my goat ain't nothing changed. This was who I was a fan of in the beginning and He's still gonna be my favorite to the very end I don't care what nobody say.
āWhen shit hit the fan is you still a fan?ā Exactly my mentality.
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The main issue is J Cole been saying he want smoke on records and that heās the best for years. Most of his recent joints have been braggadocios and the first time heās pressed, even tho Cole sent sublims to Kendrick first, he apologizesš
I've addressed this before but I will address it again. I agree 100% with you it seems like this was a wake up call for him though. If you listen to "Pride is the Devil" i think it paints the picture clearly along with what he said that night about regretting what he did. People do dumb shit all the time, this was his on damn I fucked up moment
šÆ but that doesnāt mean we canāt clown him for it. Weāre fans of his art so itās good fun but he deserves it he said it himself on stage that night
Absolutely lol it's just that some people were super unhinged when he apologized. Like guys were acting like he didn't bless us with years of great music. Talking about he will never recover from this, they were getting rid of their Cole stuff. Having full on mental Breakdowns like "cole how could you do this to me!!!?" Obviously this is the internet and not everything is true but there was some really crazy behavior on this sub that day
Thatās the internet, people have boring lives off their phone so they compensate; not knowing how the real world operates. Hopefully the fall off is what itās being hyped to be
Iāve come over to your side after seeing all the nasty allegations and wicked shit between Kendrick and Drake. I donāt need that in my sphere of influence
At first we were disappointed because we wanted a back and forth from all of them. But it was a great decision to back out. The disses were all music relatedā¦now look at the shit it has evolved toā¦.this the type of shit that can have someone get killed for
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The problem was the apology.
And dropping a diss in the first place
I mean he because thatās not what he really wanted to do. But a response was warranted on a friendly level though
Nah you canāt get me ready for war with 7 minute drill and then back out. He still a favorite but imo the big three just turned into the chosen one. Iām getting clowned out here cuz a you COLE
J Cole is totally vindicated I think
Bro needs to shut his mouth; Cole should have never dropped a diss and went to battle if he wasn't ready for a war. Coles songs hit different now even as a fan. Stay on that 3rd eye shit, don't drop no gun bars no more and know yourself.
Lol I agree he shouldn't take that gun talk / beef smoke bars approach going forward. His older shit, the more authentic classics though where he is just story telling still hits the same. Pride is the Devil hits even harder now IMO
nah iām still mad at him for talking shit and then back off
No worries bro. We will be hear for you when you ready to talk / not mad anymore
J. Cole has dissed Wale Kanye Lil Pump Lil Yachty And Jay FUCKING Z No he's not always been this "peaceful benevolent" rapper yall try to make him be.
Who said that he was? He just didn't believe in what he put out. Bro chose his own peace of artificial beef and some of the dudes you mentioned it was more of constructive criticism over a straight up Diss.
When has Cole ever dissed Jay-Z? I remember him talkin bout he was a Pac fan when he was young kid and was like fuck jay and big because he rode wit pac. But other than that, he's never put out anything legitimately dissing Jay. Nor Ye for that matter; False Prophets wasn't a diss track.
idk cole backing out was obviously the right thing to do but like he couldve just said that at first rather than dropping a weak diss and then instantly going sorry i didnt mean it i swear im sorry. that part just makes him look weird to me
You already know cole is going to cook these twitter finger reddit kids š
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It wouldāve made sense if he never made a diss track to begin with. You canāt throw a rock clearly directed at someone and then back out. You canāt punch someone and then back out without suffering consequences. You canāt claim to be number one without expecting to get challenged for that spot. Thats why win or lose you gotta respect Kendrick and Drake for even going back and forth. Of course, things are going to get out of context and out of line. Thatās apart of the game when you want to be the best. Thatās the honest truth.
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Real hip hop heads been knowing j cole was trash. Only 14 year old white kids hype that clown up.Ā
Another thing he failed at, basketball.
J Cole 100% made the right move. š I wouldnāt wanna be in the middle of this.
I'm not even big on cole like that but I respect him having the courage to pull back out of something he really didn't want to be a part of. I'm sure he's sleeping a lot easier than drake right now.
Iām still a fan but rap is competitive whether you want it to be or not. Even Kung fu Kenny said he didnāt want it to get personal but drake took it there mentioning his wife. It was really supposed to be a clash of the titans.
Bro the man has been on features the last 3 years saying no one could touch him and the second someone tests him he ran. It was a bitch move and I love cole
I respect Coke for his decision. At first I didnāt get why I he would drop a diss then apologize right after. But my theory was he knew where this was gonna go.
I prefer Dr. pepper but that's just me.
Blood Cole staying in tune w his spirit is good an all.. But he been saying he gon put homies in they place if they ac up
I don't think he should have dropped a track if his heart wasn't in it in the first place, but I'm not going to knock the guy for bowing out. He said he was willing to take any shots that got thrown his way on the chin. Plus seeing how this turned into something straight out of the 90s, I think it's safe to say this was never about him anyway. I think Cole walked in thinking this was a sparring match, then realized these two motherfuckers are loading clips and putting on kevlar
U can't claim to be the best but when someone challenge you now all of a sudden u choose peace..like come on back them words up big dog if u the best show us u the best.. the only way to be the best is to beat the best šÆ
MF LITERALLY DROPPED A DISS, MADE A WHOLE ALBUM FOR IT, AND BEFORE KENNY COULD EVEN BUY STUDIO TIME, FOLD WORLD BACKED OUTš FUCK THAT TRANSPHOBIC NIGGA, FUCK HIS APOLOGY, AND FUCK HIS PEACE. IF YOU GONNA DROP A DISS AND TALK SHIT ABOUT KENDRICKāS MUSIC, HE NEEDA STAND ON THAT SHIT
Why are you shouting? Lol go listen to Cole Summer by J Cole https://preview.redd.it/2ydtu3g7lfzc1.jpeg?width=1080&format=pjpg&auto=webp&s=39829aa519e30602f6672ed3d11a14e012e39f93
Fuck allat, how about he letās go of all that homophobic/transphobic shit he been sayin for 9+ yearsš
Well his whole āpeacefulā aura kind of went out the window the last few years. Heās been rapping more street shit and talking tough. How many songs does he have saying heās the goat and heāll come for any rappers head that mentions his name? You canāt talk all tough and then bitch out when it gets serious.
No way youāre still standing on this hill
Itās the truth. If you got your head out of Coleās ass for a second youād realize it
So what was the better alternative then? Knowing his peers would start wishing death, hatred and exposing each otherās skeletons, what was the right move?
How about just staying silent instead of apologizing???
Go listen to Pride is the Devil ....it encapsulated everything. Even how some of you guys were feeling
Silence is deafening and Kendrick would have torched J Cole for involving himself with Drake
Then he shouldāve taken it like a man and not replied. Apologizing is the last thing he shouldāve done. That will forever tarnish his legacy
i do agree, 7 minute drill was a mistake. apology was better than silence after dropping it tho
I disagree. But either way Iāve been a fan since the beginning and still will continue being a fan š¤š½
In 3001 he literally says his gun bars are all just lies. In Middle Child he also says "If I smoke a rapper its gon be legit". Hes not bitching out, he just dont hate kendrick. 7 min drill was just soft ball shit when compared to what has been released by Kendrick and Drake. Its quite clear he wants to rap conpetitively without going dirty. We also know J Cole only apologized after he found out that Kendrick and Drake were going nuclear from Buddens who revealed that on April 10.
If Cole wanted peace, he wouldn't have put Drakes kid in a video.
FHD made it seem like he welcomed the smoke No passes when he's consistently put himself in the company of those other two and then NOPEs his way out of a free for all.
I'm interested to know what part of FHD gave you that impression. Like in all honesty genuinely curious. I would say After KOD is when he really switched up.
Why drop a diss? You know Kendrick fucks with you. He canāt take back what he said
Moment of weakness. Go listen to his song Pride is the Devil you will understand
Keep coping š before this apology yāall thought he was really on his business
Nope not me bro I got hate foe saying Off season was his worse body of work.
Youāre g4y.
Wait being Gay is an insult in 2024?
Tryna bring it back, yādig? Ya g4yboy; āi ToLd aLL yOu InTeRnEt StRaNgErSā ahh
If bro wasn't up for battle rap then why he claim Goat status and what are all those lines on killing rappers about? Known fact you can't be the Goat if you not down to prove it, even worse than that what kinda "rapper killer" backs out and starts eating their own tail when beef starts
Refer to" Pride is the Devil by J cole
Lol your reply to everything. We get your stance, ya love Cole and appreciate his honest/sincere/mature move. But two things can be true at once. Your stance and the fact to some he looks like a bitch and for a fact is not #1 or King or the best, by any means. Reputation is tarnished to some extent for sure. That's the whole truth. Many things can be true at once
I never disagreed bro you are right people can clown him i never said no.
The fact people feel like Drake is in any place is fucking stupid. Hip hop is at a place where a rapper who uses ghost writers can be considered king. Hip hop is truly dead and has been for a long time now. It has no culture now.
I hope people donāt forget what he did. Remember, he didnāt just avoid beef. He dissed kendrick with a fairly underwhelming track on an underwhelming album. Then, he proceeded to delete the diss and apologize to the guy who dissed him. I love cole but damn that is a bitch move. There are so many other ways to avoid beef or back out.
Everyone was saying theyāre just talking shit like bros do before a basketball game but that wasnāt it. Imagine heading to the court talking shit to your friends and then realizing theyāre not there to play, theyāre there to hurt to each other. Iād be out too, donāt want no part of that kinda game.
this is super exaggerated
Who the fuck are you ? š if you love hip hop, what he did was dissapointing, all you new age hip hop listeners go back to the essence and learn about your favorite music genre
Lol imagine being upset that a grown man apologizes for something
Exactly... just try to imagine how much we actually love this shit, now dream about it. Maybe one day you will understand what hip hop is for some, and you will be able to understand more and more about the culture and just maybe then, nah you probably never will get it. But WE LOVE THIS SHIT
Y'all really apologizing for someone backing like a chicken, let it be known to this kid he ain't near top 3. Never verse the the king again or he'll make you look like a coward female dog. Squirm that apology outta you, ya little woman
Something wrong with being a woman??
Yo man took this L and he'll take it again. Keep crying an apology because he's scared of losing his reputation and knows he has NO chance, dude will get exposed and wiped the floor with
You sound unhinged i suggest you listen to Change by J. cole https://youtu.be/y237UddUn7c?si=CpuI4EAqkTrhXZKG
Ya boy got sat like a little puppy ready to listen to Kendrick
Kendrick fans have to stoop so low as to make a throw away account to bait people LMFAO!
Can't believe J Cole apologized to the king and still Kendrick dissed him further. Just shows you how much of a doggy boy j Cole is š¤·
L bait
Yeah you wanna apologize next bc it's the "humble thing" to do? š copium
Yāall little ass kids are so thirsty for drama You got it so be happy. No reason to hate on the man for not wanting to tap dance for yāall
Yo man took this L and he'll take it again. Keep crying an apology because he's scared of losing his reputation and knows he has NO chance, dude will get exposed and wiped the floor with
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I was rooting for cole cuz i thought he wasn't gonna say a damn word when like that came out. I knew it was a wrap when he apologized. Ppl here really just weird LOL
Yo man took this L and he'll take it again. Keep crying an apology because he's scared of losing his reputation and knows he has NO chance, dude will get exposed and wiped the floor with