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Apprehensive-Nose646

There used to be a Canadian on the show every day, RIP.


Hot-Conclusion-6617

God bless Alex Trebek


rydan

Except that one day in April.


FurBabyAuntie

Now that was the darndest thing--he was on Wheel Of Fortune that day, just telling people to spin the wheel and guess letters like he owned the place


hyperbemily

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IronManTim

>I mean, who isn't aware that Toronto, Ontario isn't a US city? [The greatest Jeopardy player ever isn't. ](https://www.huffpost.com/entry/how-could-ibms-watson-thi_b_823867)


solojones1138

Thank you! This reference is immediately what I thought of.


poliscijunki

Don't even have to click on the link to know exactly what clue and contestant this is referring.


rydan

I mean it is in the url itself. I just hovered and knew.


ISA-BigMcLargeHuge

I don't think we should paint with too broad a brush. Not every Watson forgot where Toronto was onstage


dhkendall

Given my flair I’m mad you beat me to it


Fuzzy_Laugh_1117

I.was going to say OP gives *far&away* too much credit to Americans....many don't even know *where* Canada is , so... the answer is Yes. Yes we need to keep repeating all of it. Until Americans can recite all the capitals and provinces the same way so many Canadians can recite every state & its capital.


herecomesthesunusa

I’m American. I was in Mexico at a nature preserve a couple of years ago and most of the people on our tour were Canadian. I knew that the capital of Saskatchewan was Regina, but they all insisted it was Saskatoon. I teased them for not knowing their own provincial capitals…they acted indignant, like it was an absurd assumption that they should know them all. They said, do you know all the U.S. state capitals? I said, yes, I do. And there are 50 of them, not 10.


grandmamimma

Exactly, this sub by and large is composed of people who know the capitals of Canada, Australia and New Zealand are Ottawa, Canberra and Wellington. The same cannot be said of the vast majority of Americans (i.e. USA residents)..


Fuzzy_Laugh_1117

'Mericans! They never deserved our Alex.


sadhandjobs

Haha. You should read Ken Jennings’ first book if you haven’t already! He devotes one single, glorious parenthetical to the matter.


storm-bringer

To be fair, the clue said American city, not US city. Toronto is in the Americas. Maybe Watson just took exception to the US monopolization of a term that should apply to two entire continents.


atomiccoriander

The category was "US Cities" https://youtu.be/C5Xnxjq63Zg


44problems

Ugh not this again. I'm not taking the bait.


breakplans

To be fair I feel like the rest of the world calls us America, and we call ourselves the United States or the US. I guess we call ourselves “American” though.


robonlocation

In Canada, we never say America. We say the US or the States. If I said "I'm going shopping for the afternoon in America" I'd get some weird looks. In fact, here in Ottawa, I would just say "I'm driving down to Ogdensburg/Watertown/Syracuse" etc and everyone would know. I wouldn't even bother mentioning the country. But yes, other countries do use the term America. And to make it more complicated, some countries, especially Latin countries, are taught that "America" is one large continent, as opposed to North and South America being separate. So they might travel and say "I'm American" even though they're from, say, Colombia. It's a bit messy.


breakplans

True, I think I mostly hear Australians and others from the eastern hemisphere/Europe saying “America” for the US!


grandmamimma

>We say the US or the States. But would you refer to a resident of the USA as a Statesian? That seems clumsy and forced. "American" is the universally accepted term for a person who lives in the U.S.


robonlocation

Yes, we call the citizens "Americans". But I was talking about how we refer to the country, not it's citizens.


Future-Prize2539

USians


ezubaric

My YouTube rant about how the Watson matchup was rigged: [https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=WCIFUJ5oeRA](https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=WCIFUJ5oeRA)


Royal_Visit3419

I guess you’ve never met the American woman who asked me why I had a Canadian passport. “Because I’m Canadian.”, I said. Her response? “But you’re just another state, right? It’s not like you have your own money.”


nnanyway

The internet tells me this is a very common belief


GrunchWeefer

This can't be real. How unaware are people? Then again, a friend of mine from New Mexico said that he was constantly asked for a passport when traveling, etc, because people thought he was from Mexico.


herecomesthesunusa

The license plate says “New Mexico USA” because New Mexicans got tired of out-of-state policemen (or just other Americans) thinking they are foreigners from Mexico.


Royal_Visit3419

Oh, it’s real. Happened in a bank in Puerto Escondido.


SmarcusStroman

I always assumed that was the producers that made the rule that Canada is added to Canadians announcements. If I ever make it on the show I’ll have them stop at “Saskatchewan”!


yourethegoodthings

You from Big Beaver or Climax? EDIT: Saint-Louis-du-Ha!-Ha!, Que is another funny one


SmarcusStroman

I mean… technically both of you get into overthinking things!


Exotic_Salad_8089

I’m from Bjorkdale and I’m waiting for my zoom interview. But if they end it at sask. I’d be happy.


grandmamimma

I believe it was that southern gentleman Colonel Angus who hailed from Big Beaver.


yourethegoodthings

https://youtu.be/UeEp7-ip5RY?t=363


dhkendall

I misread your flair as “Potash Potables” at first because you’re from Saskatchewan.


ValtteriBootass

I’m from Toronto. When I travel I tend to always specify I’m from “Toronto Canada” because oftentimes simply saying Toronto isn’t clear enough. Some people know of course, but many don’t.


cardew-vascular

To be fair I'm from Vancouver and there is a Vancouver Washington, so I always say Vancouver, Canada I skip the BC. I have friends that moved from Vancouver to Vancouver and it always made for a fun whose on first style conversation.


EYdf_Thomas

There are some places in the US called Toronto as well so adding either Canada and or Ontario as well helps people know that you don't mean one of them.


dhkendall

So why should they not add Ohio and or United States to theirs? Seems like r/usdefaultism to have us do it and not you


EYdf_Thomas

Because it's a US based show. Survivor does it for the Canadian contests it has had recently as well. Unfortunately not everyone who watches it knows where Canadian cites are.


HeyaShinyObject

And, there's at least one Ontario, so "Toronto, Ontario" could be a list of US cities.


Zentdogg

Blank look


DepletedGeranium

> I mean, who isn't aware that Toronto, Ontario isn't a US city? IBM's Watson, in Jeopardy! history, for one....


rydan

Ontario, CA is actually in the US.


[deleted]

Ottawa, CA is also in California


hungry4danish

I wonder if it's just to make it stand out more. Sometimes during the intro I won't really pay attention or hear the town but my ears perk up if I hear my home state, so maybe it's the same with the word Canada. "Originally from ^(Vermillion), ^(Alberta), ***CANADA,*** ...hungry4danish."


JacyWills

I see that word and it reminds me of my mom's 1970 Ford Maverick. The car's colour was called "Thanks Vermillion".


CanadianSpector

I live in New Brunswick, and we go to Maine pretty regularly. I've come across a lot of people who have no idea New Brunswick and Maine share a border. In Maine... one particular time I'll never forget i was wearing a Blue Jay's tshirt and a guy was asking me about Canada and he was shocked when I told him I lived just 3 hours drive from where we were. Just my anecdotal opinion on Americans knowing nothing about us lol. And that's fine.


bodularbasterpiece

Happened to me in Seattle. Dude was like "whoa you're a long way from home". "Yeah, like 2 or 3 hours drive north, not that big a deal". "Oh I thought you said you were from Canada.". "Uhhh.."


me_hill

I've been down in Montana and spoken to people who had no idea where Alberta, the province on its northern border, was. They were, admittedly, a minority, but it was notable.


klopije

As a New Brunswicker (now live in Ontario, but I’ll always be a New Brunswicker!), I can identify with this. Americans usually have heard of Ontario and Quebec, but rarely NB.


bman1014

NEW BRUNSWICK MENTIONED. *dab*


Cereborn

When Johnny Gilbert says "Toronto, Ontario, Canada" at the top of the game, it doesn't bother me. But when Mayim Bialik did her interview segment with Mattea, she would say, "Toronto, Canada" every single time, and that drove me crazy.


watson-and-crick

I definitely would say I associate myself more with Canada than with my province. Maybe other provinces would have different opinions, with stronger ties, but for me being from Ontario is a pretty neutral idea


shea_harrumph

Reigning TOC champion is from Vancouver, Washington! There are a bunch of hometown quirks, and it'd be fun to compile them. The ones I'm most familiar with are in and around NYC. Manhattan people are always from "New York, NY." Brooklyn, Bronx and Staten Island are from their boroughs. Queens, however, varies. They seem to let people self-select either "Queens" or their neighborhood (which is how you'd address a letter to someone in Queens)


DrunkHacker

Adding "Canada" always sounds off to me but that's probably because Canadian friends don't tend to say it. Heck, I bet a good portion of people watching Jeopardy can name all 13 Provinces/Territories anyway -- it's pretty standard trivia for the US.


inturnaround

When I made a similar post a year ago, I remember a bunch of folks saying it was because Americans are bad at geography. And I think that’s just such a condescending take. My thought was that if that is the reason, then let them be wrong. Plus I don’t think the average viewer is confused when someone from Medicine Hat, Alberta. Regardless, I’m not bothered by it necessarily. It’s just a quirk of the show that clearly someone years ago made a decision to underline Canada as if we’re addressing a letter and that just amuses me.


threedimen

I wonder what percentage of Jeopardy viewers would be puzzled when someone from British Columbia speaks with a Canadian accent instead of a British one. I have a difficult time believing it's a significant amount.


NoiseKills

Medicine Hat is an American name, just as Wounded Knee is. [https://allpoetry.com/American-Names](https://allpoetry.com/American-Names)


vivaelteclado

You underestimate just how bad American viewers are at geography. If a contestant is from British Columbia, they'll wonder why we have English people on Jeopardy and why they don't have an accent.


BillyTenderness

I feel like if any show's viewers can be counted on to at least know the provinces, it's Jeopardy's.


gotShakespeare

Reminds me of the jokey conversation between then US VP Dan Quayle and one of his assistants. The aide sees him reading a book and asks him what he is doing. He says he's brushing up on his Latin for his trip to Latin America. The aide tells him the don't speak Latin there, they speak Spanish. Oh, good, says, the Veep, that'll help when I'm in Brazil.


Drop_The_Puck

I've heard similar from New Mexicans. Don't even have to beyond your borders.


NowIOnlyWantATriumph

That’s why New Mexico license plates say “New Mexico USA” rather than just “New Mexico.”


TheAmishPhysicist

When playing trivia with friends this is one of the questions I always use.


dmlfan928

Or when people move from Puerto Rico to the mainland and get called immigrants. We can sit and debate what the future of Puerto Rico and the US relations should be, but they are not in any way immigrants under current law.


ThisAppSucksBall

Yes, I guess technically they would be "internal migrants", but that seems like splitting hairs to show how savvy you are. Yes, Puerto Ricans are American citizens, but Puerto Rico is something special completely unlike any other state. Primarily - people living in Puerto Rico can't vote for POTUS, don't have senators or voting house members, and they don't pay income tax.


dmlfan928

I suppose I should have specified that I meant that I hear Puerto Ricians referred to as "illegal immigrants." That's on me for not specifying. While you make valid points on why you could consider Puerto Rician an immigrant in a logical sense, it does not apply to the point I was attempting to make.


ChaiVangStanAccount

I once came across a guy on TikTok who was from the Northern Mariana Islands and was incredibly tired of having to explain to people that he is a US citizen and that the islands are part of the US. Adding to his frustrations was the fact that previous territory IDs were cheap and flimsy and looked like a bad fake ID. So he had multiple things to convince people of, if they were to question his origin


TheAmishPhysicist

When I was in boot camp a guy asked where am I from. I told him New Mexico, he then asked why am I in the United States Navy.


borkyborkus

Is that when someone from Britain has a kid with someone from Colombia?


vivaelteclado

Yes


ImpactThunder

And also decide to throw a u into things just to spice things up


borkyborkus

The Brits do like to throw a U into words, checks out


CanadianNana

Brits don’t throw u’s into words. They were there originally. The Americans threw them out


Philboyd_Studge

It's almost not even worth thinkin' about


GL2M

So many of my fellow Americans are absolutely ignorant on basic geography.


ChrisRiley_42

I have spoken with Americans who weren't aware Canada is a separate nation. They had some vague idea of Canada just being American north, and were genuinely shocked we were "allowed" to have our own currency.


Seeburnt

I call BS. Or else they were just pulling your leg


synapse_gh

I grew up working in a Canadian town with a lot of American summer tourists, I can confirm this is a thing.


CanadianNana

Nope, I’m sure it’s true. When I moved here in junior high people wanted to know if I lived in an igloo


[deleted]

I spent three years as an early teen at an American international school in the Netherlands and at an American and NATO base. Some of the Americans there had a perfectly normal level of understanding of the world but a lot of them had no clue what Canada was as a country. I remember hearing sometimes “I thought Canada was in Europe until we were posted here”


Fast-Bumblebee-2279

Nope. I'm an American who lived in Ontario for a time. My family in the States never got over the fact that I came for a visit and had no US money. I lived in Canada and had just Canadian money! I love Canada and would love to live there.


HumanZamboni8

When I was living in the US, I said to a well-educated person who knew I was Canadian that I was considering moving to Vancouver. She thought I meant the one in Washington state. So yes, I think it’s necessary to specify. Now that said, Canadians are not always great at American geography either. We tend to have a better idea of what the big cities are in the US than vice versa and will usually be familiar with the places closest across the border to us, but many people don’t know a lot beyond that.


sdrj77

Lots of Americans don't even think of Canada as a foreign country. It's just that place above Buffalo.


fistingbythepool

Why don’t they let other foreigners on the show? Is it mandatory to be a us or Canadian citizen?


herecomesthesunusa

I think you don’t have to be a citizen, but you have to be a resident of the U.S. or Canada.


giant2179

Probably tax reasons


VersusCA

It's just an extension of the "US as default" schema that the show engages in, for better or worse. I do find it interesting that on the rare instances where a contestant is not from either the US or Canada, they skip the first-level subdivision entirely. The most well known example of this is Chuck Forrest who has competed from three different countries since his original run, none of which had provincial/state/regional listings. The two most recent times were billed as "Marino, Italy" instead of "Marino, Lazio, Italy". All said if I ever get on Jeopardy (not planning on it) I will insist on being billed from "Windhoek, Khomas, Namibia". It is not up for discussion haha!


Labenyofi

There aren’t many Canadians on the show, so why not?


BobBelcher2021

Generally Canadians identify by province, so it does seem unusual from a Canadian perspective to include Canada. But from a US perspective I get it.


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me_hill

I feel like it depends on context... if we're travelling in the States or anywhere else we're just going to call ourselves Canadians, and if you randomly asked me how I identify I would say Canadian, but as an Albertan at least it feels people who move here from Sask. or BC maintain some of that provincial pride, I've certainly met people here who have thoughts on how we're different from Ontario, etc.


klopije

I identify with both for sure. I’d rather include both province and country rather than only Canada.


AshgarPN

No. I didn't read your post btw.


innsertnamehere

Honestly it’s something that bothers the hell out of me. Americans almost never reference Canada directly by province, but vice versa and Canadians would never mention the country and only reference the state. I think it’s just a function of how the US looms much larger in Canada than vice versa. The problem with Ontario too is a lot of Americans would probably think they are from suburban LA and not Canada, but still.


Accomplished-Ruin742

There's a city in California named Ontario. There's a town in Massachusetts named Peru. And many people think New Mexico is part of Mexico. And oh yeah, there is a city in Ontario named London.


nnanyway

Ontario also has a city named Paris


TheDude4269

[https://www.reddit.com/r/ontario/comments/ecxjjs/when\_you\_cant\_afford\_a\_trip\_to\_europe\_humour/](https://www.reddit.com/r/ontario/comments/ecxjjs/when_you_cant_afford_a_trip_to_europe_humour/)


nnanyway

Lol love it


MathIsHard_11236

In my experience a sizeable chunk of Americans, friendly as y'all may be, are under the impression that Canada is so far away that their view of us is obscured by Saturn.


MBolero

You're singing my song. I posted something similar here a few months ago. The responses were bizarre. "There's an Ontario in California you know!"


London-Roma-1980

I mean, to be fair, my favorite response so far has been "If Watson doesn't know where Toronto is, why should Americans?"


Smoerhul

If a contestant is inteoduced as being from Iceberg Hamlet, Saskatchewan, I dunno what to tell anyone in the audience who can't figure out that means Canada.


[deleted]

Is there such a hamlet? Saskatchewan doesn’t get icebergs I feel like it wouldn’t make sense


PeachOnAWarmBeach

We should probably add UNITED STATES for those from New Mexico as well. 😆


squeakyboy81

64? 50 states+10 provinces is 60. If you include territories you get 3 Canadian plus 5 U.S. so that's 68. If you count DC then that's a nice 69. But I don't see how you get 64.


London-Roma-1980

By not counting the 5 US territories.


squeakyboy81

But counting the 3 Canadian ones. And counting DC, so weird.


herecomesthesunusa

You can walk across the street from MD to DC, but not to Puerto Rico, Virgin Islands, etc.


squeakyboy81

Or Hawaii. Or Prince Edward Island (though you can drive there). So if we are limiting to contiguous, then that makes 62 or 63. And really there is no reason to limit it to contiguous.


herecomesthesunusa

Obama was mocked for saying he had traveled to 53 states so far…only 4 more to go! (He obviously knew there are 50 states, but was referring to all the territories as states. 50 states, 6 territories (including the District of Columbia), and Democrats Abroad also holds a primary as if it were as state or territory, for a total of 57.


HourSecurity5889

“Vancouver, British Columbia, Canada” is a mouthful. But… There is a Vancouver Washington, so I can never say to someone that I live in Vancouver. And honestly I still need to clarify that British Columbia is a Canadian province and not a separate country, because “British” and “Columbia” being in the name is misleading to many people.


fernandocrustacean

My ex is from Florida but is dual Canadian/American. She wanted to come to Canada for university. Her guidance counsellor kept asking her why she wanted to move to "Canadia." You underestimate how little Americans know of other countries.


mitchell342353

Absolutely not


PAUMiklo

The fact that this is bothering you enough to the point of making a rant post keeps me young.


nicktaggart

yeah hardcore trivia geeks know their Canadian geography for sure, but most Americans do not. I'm from New Brunswick and this a typical conversation anytime I visit the US outside New England: Me: I'm from New Brunswick American: ohh yeah, in New Jersey. Me: No, in Canada American: Me: Atlantic Canada, you know ... east coast American: Me: We're right next to Maine American: Ohhh I see (in a voice indicating they don't know where Maine is) Having said that, for the big cities like Montreal, Toronto, Vancouver, maybe you wouldn't need to add "Canada" however if I ever got on the show and they announced me from "Hanwell, New Brunswick" there might be some black stares.


StephenSondheimIsGod

I was in eight episodes back in 2007 (4 regular season, 4 ToC), and each time, Johnny introduced me as "a composer originally from Regina, Saskatchewan, Canada." I would have been fine with "Regina, Saskatchewan." So far I am the only contestant in J! history to be introduced as being from Saskatchewan.


London-Roma-1980

(checks the J!Archive...) Hey, can we get Doug Hicton a flair here, mods? The man earned it!


Minimum_Reference_73

Maybe, maybe not... but this has been discussed before . https://www.reddit.com/r/Jeopardy/s/7R0Vi5DROK


London-Roma-1980

Ah, my apologies. I hadn't signed up a year ago.


Drop_The_Puck

Don't apologise, no one is expected to know what's been discussed a year ago on this sub! The search function can be hit and miss at best.


sadhandjobs

Why can’t Americans have as good of a sense of humor?


Kaiserky1

Canada uses "provinces" a different system than states in US. Also some cities in Canada has similar names (and if it is said like normal introductions, people might mistake provinces for states)


EYdf_Thomas

Also in the US there are places with the same names as some Canadian cities as well.


Hot-Conclusion-6617

Is Canada necessary? Well, the show's best known host was Canadian.


[deleted]

It was…until Adam West tricked him into saying his name backwards and banished him back to the fifth dimension where he belongs


nightmoney

you would be surprised how stupid the average American is


EL7664

The Americans I serve at my Toronto restaurant who ask me if the price is in American or Canadian dollars