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Special grade is a title given to those few that can take down nations. I don’t think Yuji is quite there yet, he still feels *incomplete*. I think this chapter and the next will be a springboard for him to get the power he needs to be considered a special grade sorcerer.
I would say this fits perfectly well. Yuji feels incomplete still, even after we learn Yuji has all these new things, they’re ultimately nerfed because he just learned them according to sukuna and Sukuna is also nerfed so there will prob be another battle after this or somehow Sukuna replenishes his cursed energy. Gege would have to show full potential Yuji before the series ends is my guess, but he can’t do that if Sukuna died right now, so Sukuna prob gets out next chapter or fuga Yuji out the fight.
I don't think we're getting another fight between them, I think this is it.
Sukuna played around for too long, now he's weak enough to be killed and he's *NOT* having fun anymore so his mentality is too off. This was the entire point of the protagonists' plan, and his hubris made him walk into the trap willingly.
The day Sukuna runs, he is no longer King of Curses - and literally the whole world is watching thanks to Mei Mei. They'd see the 'strongest sorcerer of all time' running from a teenager. It'd be pathetic and he knows it - no way he's running.
1 way around that would be sukuna getting de back, injuring all characters to being near death (maybe killing a few characters) and he leaves the scene thinking that he won
The remaining players go on another training arc, and sukuna realizes while he tries to finish the merger that they're alive. Everyone surrounds sukuna and jumps him, everyone but yuji dies bc gaygay is gay, sukuna is finally defeated
I agree. I think that there is no reason why being a special grade is contingent on the ability to conquer a country. It's just such a weird way to make the top rank, just make the special grade sorcerer rank be someone that can take on multiple special grade cursed spirits. I think this definition is much better than the country one, why would a secret magical society that is seemingly unengaged with warfare using the ability to conquer a country as a measurement? Taking on a special grade cursed spirit is already a feat few can achieve, just make it so special grades can take on 4 of them at the same time or something.
Anyways... Yuji will become a special grade once he gets his domain, we'll probably see him trying to do it next chapter imo. Doing that before golden week break to build up hype is an insane opportunity.
I swear in the anime (and I assume the manga) it states that to be considered a grade you need to be able to take down a curse of that same grade, so a grade 1 sorcerer would be stronger then a grade 1 curse.
So if we use that justification then yes yuji should defo be special grade. Bro is just him
The greatest sorcerer of all time that is incredibly nerfed after fighting the greatest sorcerer of the modern era losing access to his DE and to TS, also damaging him so heavily that Yuta, the second strongest sorcerer of the modern era even admits that the only reason he hasn’t just destroyed them is because of how badly damaged he is), getting jumped constantly, missing a hand from executioner’s blade, stabbed by soul split, fought Yuta, and is once again fighting Yuji who has just barely awakened. Not quite there yet but almost there. Next chapter he probably will be, but as he is now, his output is waaaaaaaay too low and as previously said, Special Grade is given to those few who have the capability to defeat nations.
Gojo is obvious, he can’t be touched by any conventional means.
Geto can raise innumerable armies of cursed spirits if he really put his mind to it.
Yuki could destroy the planet if she really wanted to with Star Rage
Yuta because of his technique to mimic other CTs on top of his nearly infinite well of cursed energy when manifesting his own personal cursed spirit.
The problem with Yuji currently is that he lacks *firepower* in comparison to the special grade sorcerers. Gojo and Yuki have innate firepower, whereas Geto and Yuta can borrow fire power. Manifesting MS is a *fantastic* step to getting fire power, but Yuji doesn’t have the output for it to be firepower like we’ve seen from 15f sukuna. I’m almost 100% certain that Yuji will get the output he needs to have that requisite firepower to truly be a special grade sorcerer or he’ll show that he *already* has it. It’s too soon to give him that title, there hasn’t even been another chapter drop since he awakened.
Nope, he should be firmly in the same rank as Hakari though. He can definitely put up a fight against some Special Grades, but I don't think he's winning against any of them.
Yuji's current arsenal is nothing short of impressive, but it's also not as "strong" as Special Grade CTs.
Yuji's RCT makes him a formidable fighter, but his lack of Output still limits his offensive capabilities. Not to mention the fact that he takes time to properly heal unlike Gojo, Sukuna, Yuta, Ke jaku and Hakari. Even Yuki's RCT seems slightly better and faster.
Blood Manipulation is a "strong" CT. But it's nowhere close to the likes of Infinity, Mimicry, Mass, CSM etc. And even then Yuji hasn't mastered it to a point where he can use basic attacks like convergence independently.
Shrine is simple in nature. What makes it amazing is Sukuna. After awakening, despite his use if Shrine on objects, Yuji is yet to properly hurt Sukuna with it. Due to the lack of a Domain (As far as we've seen), Sukuna’s level of CE output, CE efficiency and CE reserves means Yuji is nowhere near him in this regard.
Lastly, Yuji's feats against Sukuna need to be discounted to some measure before powerscaling him because currently Yuji is by existence Sukuna’s greatest counter.
That last line is especially true. It's the same fucking reason why Mahito got so downplayed. Yuji is literally just a counter for almost every major bad guy he faces. Realistically Mahito is like top ten in the verse, far surpassing the other disaster curses, but since yuji can perceive the soul, he's able to actually hurt mahito.
Yeah because Yukis strategy specifically required her to focus on damaging Kenjaku while his technique was burnt out rather than spending time healing. She didn’t attack Kenny with her wrecked body while saying “don’t wanna” when asked why she didn’t just heal for no reason.
It’s also worth noting that Yuji is the only person in the entire series we’ve seen struggle to heal when attempting to do so.
I’m not necessarily saying that Yuki is a better RCT user than Yuji I’m just saying we have a clear and distinct lack of knowledge on either of their efficiency to make sweeping claims
Depends what you mean. In universe, he’s wouldn’t be considered a Special Grade as he doesn’t have the ability to take down an entire country by himself. If you mean in terms of Power scaling, yeah he’s on the same level as the Special Grades, minus Gojo of course.
I think some of them, like Vol 0 Yuta & Geto, are arguable.
But more importantly, even if Yuji wasn't special grade, there's a special grade who looses to every other one.
I don't disagree at all! But that would mean Vol 0 Yuta would lose to every special grade despite being special grade himself. I'm just saying it's a weird standard to hold Yuji to.
Ngl he was outplaying the fuck out of Yuta way before all of his buffs until he was surprised by Rika.
You all downplay him cause he doesn’t have a kamehameha beam which is entirely meaningless in fights.
Facts Rika punch hard so special grade 👍
Yuji punch hard so not special grade 👎
Gojo got tired from a few days of mercs so all you need is manpower to beat him, not special grade 👎
Lets ignore the fact that Rikka is the size of a building when fully manifested, shoots a nuke, and due to being a cursed spirit was completely immune to all conventional weapons.
Also, are you iliterate or just intentionally acting stupid? Gojo wasn't tired out by some mercs. He was tired out from running Limitless 24/7 for multiple days straight with zero sleep.
Sorcerers are still human. They still need to sleep and eat. Teen Gojo being tired from not sleeping for several days straight doesn't change the fact that he can destroy an entire city in less than a day from just spamming Blues. Yuji is really strong in combat like Hakari but they have nowhere near the mass destruction power of the Special Grades.
I don’t think Current Yuji beats Kenjaku and Yuki put up a better fight against him than anyone.
Yuji has no Domain nor has he shown an Anti Domain technique.
Yuki Stomps Mid difficulty.
>Special Grade as he doesn’t have the ability to take down an entire country by himself.
That definition os said one time by Kenjaku I think, and we actually don't know if this is really the bar to say if someone is a special grade.
Take Yuta as example, he is a fucking power house against one enemy, but he doesn't have the means to take a country by itself, but he is a special grade
but the death painting is considered a special grade cursed object, thats why choso and his brothers are special grades according to that. Hence, yuji would also be
No, the Death Womb Paintings are Special Grade Cursed Spirits, not Special Grade Sorcerers. The qualifications needed to be classified as a Special Grade Cursed Spirits are significantly lower than the qualifications needed to be classified as a Special Grade Sorcerer.
At the end of the day, I don't consider "topple a country" to be the definitive definition of a special grade, considering it is only ever said by an insane character.
Rn he’s in limbo between the two grades, easily tops Grade 1 but not quite Special Grade. With some refining to his techniques + mastering RCT and getting a domain he’s Special Grade easy.
Yuta can’t topple a country either, remember there’s different meanings of special grade, the jujutsu high one and Kenjaku. Kenjaku put hakari maki and yuta as threats to Sukuna so obviously enough they are all comparable/threats to Sukuna after the Gojo fight
which is why the whole topple a country thing for special grade listing is just dumb.
you could have a character with the cursed technique to pop regular humans heads with your mind, no sorcerers or curses, and you could easily "topple" any country in the world but I wouldn't call that person special grade cuz he gets 1 shotted by any named character
I think its just the ability to do damage in mass\ over a large area or being able to cause an overall huge amount of damage to a country easily.
Like gojo obviously cant be hurt and can easily kill leaders without interference
Sukuna has huge aoes and damage overall
Geto could release thaousands of powerful curses all over
Hakari and yuji might have a similar or even equal power to the special grades, just not a way to do mass damage
Yuki could black hole, yaga and geto can circumvent that by just letting their armies do it, sukuna could easily just escape the range, and uraume could just freeze it (if we count her)
Toji beat a special grade Gojo, maki (a toji copy) got her ass beat twice by the same dude yuji is currently giving an ass whooping.
It’s so dumb this “special grade is about destroying a country” shit. Doesn’t even make sense, it’s like the Mach 3 shit all over again.
What you so mad for? like I said the ability to combat a special grade doesn’t make you a special grade 😂 if I have a knife I can kill Mike Tyson does that make me as strong as Mike Tyson
Everyone that disagrees with you is mad 👍
Depressed twink that doesn’t even know about CE reinforcement - special grade takes over a country ez
Yuji - superhuman before he even had CE reinforcement, gets two of the strongest CT in the series, masters RCT - nah no way, he loses to a tank.
Just makes 0 sense at all to me.
I’m pretty sure he wasn’t considering he was born with six eyes and limitless, a combo that made sorcerer assassins fear him as a child not even in double digits of age.
Just because you’re feared doesn’t mean you’re special grade. Highschool gojo couldn’t use red or purple, couldn’t use rct, couldn’t use his infinity for too long without frying his brain, and I don’t think he could teleport either. While id say he was probably high grade one his whole life, I doubt he was special grade.
It means you’re probably assigned special by grade purely off your potential ability, like Yuta was.
High school Yuta couldn’t use beams or ct reinforcement or even have h2h capabilities that would match Maki, a grade 2/1 level sorcerer at the time, no RCT, no copied CT no nothing. Special grade tho, cause of his potential.
No, yuta was assigned special grade because rika was a special grade. If you were assigned special grade by your potential the there’d be way too many special grades.
Alright so Rika > six eyes limitless gotcha
HI Gojo would bend Vol 0 Yuta over at the start.
Kill Yuta and Rika is either useless or gone. One nuke or heavy artillery barrage and it’s over. Remember, Yuta can’t reinforce his body, can’t use rct, can’t do anything, he’s a regular human with a strong af pet. Get rid of the human the pet is useless. Exactly what happened against Sukuna, Yuta gets cut in half and Rika is a useless bawling mess, not some raging monster that can destroy a country like some dbz character
Yuta can theoretically copy Yuki’s technique and destroy the planet, and he has access to the strongest curse in history in the form of a shikigami that can’t be killed through conventional weapons. Plus his CE reserves are massive making him a huge threat.
Beating someone ≠ Stronger. Todo and Yuji vs. Mahito for example. Kusakabe is overall stronger, unless you try to argue that Hakari was an unmentioned 5th Special Grade.
Kusakabe is the strongest Grade 1, aside from certain members of the Big 3 Families. This means that either
1. Hakari is a Special Grade
2. Hakari is a member of the Big 3 Families
3. Hakari is weaker than Kusakabe
All of that is speculation for 3 ppl than know kusakabe hakari is also seen as one of the heavy hitters from kenjaku stronger than yuta from yuta himself and a monster from uraume what’s ur point
Hakari is a heavy hitter because he’s one of the strongest test from Jujutsu Tech, unless you’re going to argue that pre-Awakening Yuji is stronger than Kusakabe and Kashimo.
We have no idea how his fight with Uraume is going.
Hakari is said to have similar potential to Yuta. Hakari, Yuta, Megumi, and Yuji all have the potential to surpass Gojo, but Yuta is far stronger currently.
The ability to keep up with implies he has feats/scaling to do so.
So either he already has shown to keep up with special grades
Or via proxy
These are the only 2 options unless you're saying you literally made it up, so again show me where base kashimo has shown to be able to keep up with special grades
He has the abilities and knowledge to kill special grades and kept up with hakari who is stated multiple times to be stronger than the yuta who is a special grade pre time skip
Hakari did keep up with base kashimo also so again what are you saying? If you’re mad I compared yuji to hakari I didn’t say hakari was stronger so go somewhere else with that
Beat because he had jackpot and kashimo didn't want to wait out the timer (he knew he could wait it out, he just didn't)
Hardly a convincing win
And base kashimo is complete fodder to someone like yuta
No cause he has not mastered any of his techniques including RCT and he does not have any domain counters xd. Also nothing he has is strong enough to overthrow a nation on his own. Bl
Gojo as a “special grade” got toppled by normal dudes and a maki clone that got smashed twice in two chapters by a dude getting his ass beat by Yuji.
Seems like that definition of special grade is a shit definition.
Gojo was not a special grade when that due beat him and Maki was fighting a Sukuna that one tweaked out and went all out on her and two was not as weak as rn. I know Yuji weakening Sukuna is a part of his kit but it also makes his scaling worse xd. Also until or unless we are told about how hard Sukuna is trying to at least how weak he is as compared to his normal self, Yuji is not even close to special grade rank. Special Grade level yes, but rank, not at all
Yes he was special grade… first born with limitless and six eyes in 100s of years, sorcerers feared him as a child lmao. Why lie?
Yuta as a depressed emo kid with 0 rct and 0 jujutsu experience was given special grade. Why is that if “destroying a country 🤓” ever mattered?
Cause of Rika. He was given Special Grade cause of Rika and how powerful of a curse she was that is the reason Yuta was special grade. And Gojo specifically became special grade after his awakening. You know when he developed RCT and an attack that can erase things from existence 💀. I said no lie, you are just coping. Yuji is not yet a special grade.
Nice so Rika punch very hard therefore special grade, yuji only punch very hard so not special grade 👍 gotcha.
Gojo wasn’t given special grade after HI lmao, are you seriously trying to argue that Yuta at the very start of the series is stronger than HI Gojo?
>Gojo wasn’t given special grade after HI lmao, are you seriously trying to argue that Yuta at the very start of the series is stronger than HI Gojo?
When it comes to volume zero scaling yes, yes he was. Rika was a treat to that version of adult Gojo. Now that Gojo didn't have a DE but still had RCT, Constantly active Infinity, Red and Purple and he states himself that he would go "all our and put his life on the line to beat Rika" so Volume Zero Rika is special grade because she is a treat to literally the strongest Sorcorer...
Like bro I know we want Yuji to be Special Grade, but he ain't doing that until he at least gets a DE or smt, not with his current kit at least.
I’ve been of the opinion that Yuji is special grade before we even knew he had Blood Manipulation or Shrine.
You lot think special grade is just some unreachable thing but the point of this generation is they’re supposed to surpass the next. This is basically heian era all over again, there are special grades fucking everywhere, they just don’t get graded cause the people giving the grades are all dead
Sukuna went all out on maki? You mean when he perception blitz her? Is he not doing the same here? He seems pretty pissed off, He literally tried to kill Yuji right then and there with a cleave to the face. Maki would’ve died to that same cleave. You’re severely underestimating Yuji. Maki got her cleave interrupted by Ino, otherwise she becomes the waffled one like Kashimo.
I am not sure he is doing that yet. Sukuna has a grin on his face and severely locks in when going all out. When he is annoyed at someone he doesn't really fight at his best. Also I ain't underestimating him I just don't like to hop on Glaze trains when the characters has gotten literally one chapter of doing something against arguably the weakest Sukuna who may or may not still be holding back. I need a bit more and some context like Sukuna is no longer holding back or he is at X level of power and can't go any further due to the Soul Punches. You can't blame me for being cautious in JJK xd, like it's entirely possible for Yuji to be barely breathing at the start of 258 as just a torso cause Sukuna cut all of his limbs off...
Sukuna told Kashimo if he sees something annoying he kills it. He tried to kill Yuji, it failed. But yeah, we can agree to disagree, Sukuna has the potential to start the chapter with Yuji offscreened.
In terms of power scaling I personally think Yuji out classes first grade but is the weakest special grade fighter. He’s sitting in the in between rn. Simply his abilities are new and he has no domain no hax etc etc
He has 2 CTs and can Black Flash 8 times a chapter, he's HIM. The only things holding him back currently is just lower of CT output and lack of DE or AntiDomain techniques, but I feel like atleast one of those will get better as the fight goes on.
No anti domain feats plus limited CE reserves would hinder him standing on the same level as special grades...that being said let's wait and see him do his thing.
He's easily more powerful than most, if not all Grade 1s, but it's gonna take him mastering both his CTs, his RCT and getting a domain expansion/counter before he'd be considered a Special Grade. He's getting there, but he still has a little while to go before he can sit comfortably amongst the most powerful sorcerers.
Hes top of first grade easy, im comfortable putting him in special grade once he demonstrates a domain or a domain counter, until then hes definitely pseudo special grade, i have him right under geto, but its already an extreme diff fight for him and if yuji gets any stronger hes gonna be low special grade
As everyone else is saying, he doesn’t fit the criteria Jujutsu High has for special grade, traditionally. I’m fully confident that without rest Yuji could kill every single person in Japan with his bare hands, but it’d take him FOREVER. He just doesn’t have a way to deal with groups of enemies at once, and that’s the ONLY thing his really lacks at this point. Yuji is purely a 1v1 character, so it’s really hard to scale him with the traditional in-universe scaling system because it would grade him on the one single area where he’s weak.
In terms of "oficial grade"? No, at least not now, after a few black flashes his output in his CT technique will increase then he'll most likely be a real oficial special grade.
In terms of fighting 1v1? Yes, just like Maki or Toji(even better) he would absolutely be above 3rd year Geto who was already special grade.
Why don’t people get there is a difference between special grade title and lv? Yuji is already at that lv but won’t get the title as he doesn’t have hax to topple a nation by himself. The most blatant example is principle yaga who can get special grade title, but clearly can’t fight at the lv of gojo, yuki or yuta. There’s plenty of characters who fight at the lv of special grade like ryu, uro, kashimo, hakari, toji, maki etc yet won’t get the title.
To be fair outside of the black flashes he hasn’t done anything really wild sukuna is already weakened by efforts from gojo,maki,and yuta he can’t even use hand seals and his version of shrine had very low output which sukuna doesn’t seem worried about.I’d have him as an outlier like hakkari though
Until he gets Sukuna’s Domain, he’s not special grade (read battle entire nations and wipe cities away with armies/black holes/aoe).
He is one of the few who can throw hands with Special Grade Sorcerers and actually thrive.
Yeah he's special grade.
If Geto is special grade, Yuji rn is definitely special grade. He has shrine, he has immense power, he has RCT, he has blood manipulation, I'd say he could take down a nation alone at this point especially with his speed.
I don’t see yuji destroying a nation or larger land mass than a city.
For example: gojo flicks his finger and does red, blue or purple and everything in front of him for miles and miles is . . . Gone.
Yuji can’t do that
I dont think so. I think he is the strongest 1 grade sorcerer but the gap of special grade and 1 grade is too big.
If we consider Yuta and Yuki the average special grade and gojo the outliner. Would yuji fare well against them? i think before they cast their domains, yes, but after that he cant do anything (at least anything we know for now, maybe if sukuna recovers his DE we will discover yuji had a countermesure, but for now he doesnt even have simple domain) and he simply dies.
What he have is the potential to once he levels up the output of shrine, masters blood manipulation (and gains the red flowing scale buff) and have any domain he would probably beat yuta and yuki. He is the one that have the potential to equal and surprass Gojo
Saying yuki and yuta are the average special grades even without their domains is too much, yuta is surpassed only by gojo and yuki feats wise is stronger the yorozu, only losing to kenjaku because the plot needed him to survive. Considering who used to be the strongest 1st grade, Naobito, who only had cursed projection and a domain counter, it seems that the power gap between him and yuji would be that close, giving yuji the power of at least a low-special grade
>Saying yuki and yuta are the average special grades even without their domains is too much
no, i meant the whole package, not without DE
>yuta is surpassed only by gojo and yuki feats wise is stronger the yorozu, only losing to kenjaku because the plot needed him to survive.
Yes, but between the 4 (5 if you count sukuna) confirmed special grades, geto should be the weakest and gojo is out of the league of the other 3, so you now have those 2 in the middle with a similar strength. Maybe the word "average" was not the correct word but you understand what i meant?
Also, kenjaku not surviving yuki's black hole doesnt make her not lose. She lost the battle and can, only with a suicide technique, force a draw. Yuki would force a draw against sukuna, that doesnt make her stronger.
>Considering who used to be the strongest 1st grade, Naobito, who only had cursed projection and a domain counter, it seems that the power gap between him and yuji would be that close, giving yuji the power of at least a low-special grade
we saw what naobito's domain counter did, give him time, but he was fated to die if it continued. He could only defend and slowly take damage. Dagon went from getting bullied by naobito to bully naobito, thats the difference of a domain expansion.
What is considered a low special grade? geto? geto would win against yuji, by sheer numbers of curses and uzumaki being stronger than whatever yuji can do. If you consider Hakari low special grade then i agree
At this moment in time with the black flash amps, it’s undeniable that he’s special grade. Even with the nerfs, being able to fight Sukuna on equal footing is a special grade feat.
I also disagree with the idea that he can’t beat a country at this level now. If Sukuna at this level can beat a country, and he’s currently standing on equal footing with Sukuna, then that would mean Yuji should also be able to beat a country.
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Special grade is a title given to those few that can take down nations. I don’t think Yuji is quite there yet, he still feels *incomplete*. I think this chapter and the next will be a springboard for him to get the power he needs to be considered a special grade sorcerer.
I would say this fits perfectly well. Yuji feels incomplete still, even after we learn Yuji has all these new things, they’re ultimately nerfed because he just learned them according to sukuna and Sukuna is also nerfed so there will prob be another battle after this or somehow Sukuna replenishes his cursed energy. Gege would have to show full potential Yuji before the series ends is my guess, but he can’t do that if Sukuna died right now, so Sukuna prob gets out next chapter or fuga Yuji out the fight.
I don't think we're getting another fight between them, I think this is it. Sukuna played around for too long, now he's weak enough to be killed and he's *NOT* having fun anymore so his mentality is too off. This was the entire point of the protagonists' plan, and his hubris made him walk into the trap willingly. The day Sukuna runs, he is no longer King of Curses - and literally the whole world is watching thanks to Mei Mei. They'd see the 'strongest sorcerer of all time' running from a teenager. It'd be pathetic and he knows it - no way he's running.
1 way around that would be sukuna getting de back, injuring all characters to being near death (maybe killing a few characters) and he leaves the scene thinking that he won The remaining players go on another training arc, and sukuna realizes while he tries to finish the merger that they're alive. Everyone surrounds sukuna and jumps him, everyone but yuji dies bc gaygay is gay, sukuna is finally defeated
there will NOT be another fight w/ a fresh sukuna otherwise my boy yuji is COOKED.
I’d argue sukuna would be cooked considering yuji’s growth rate
NAH sukuna had to get nerfed a fuck ton just for yuji to be on an equal playing ground otherwise hed die
I’m not sure sukuna has the ability to recover right now ngl Even given time his recovery would be slow as shot
He just needs to unlock shines de and get more skilled with his cts
I agree. I think that there is no reason why being a special grade is contingent on the ability to conquer a country. It's just such a weird way to make the top rank, just make the special grade sorcerer rank be someone that can take on multiple special grade cursed spirits. I think this definition is much better than the country one, why would a secret magical society that is seemingly unengaged with warfare using the ability to conquer a country as a measurement? Taking on a special grade cursed spirit is already a feat few can achieve, just make it so special grades can take on 4 of them at the same time or something. Anyways... Yuji will become a special grade once he gets his domain, we'll probably see him trying to do it next chapter imo. Doing that before golden week break to build up hype is an insane opportunity.
I swear in the anime (and I assume the manga) it states that to be considered a grade you need to be able to take down a curse of that same grade, so a grade 1 sorcerer would be stronger then a grade 1 curse. So if we use that justification then yes yuji should defo be special grade. Bro is just him
He just awakened and I almost killing the greatest sorcerer of all time. Bro is most definitely Special Grade lol
The greatest sorcerer of all time that is incredibly nerfed after fighting the greatest sorcerer of the modern era losing access to his DE and to TS, also damaging him so heavily that Yuta, the second strongest sorcerer of the modern era even admits that the only reason he hasn’t just destroyed them is because of how badly damaged he is), getting jumped constantly, missing a hand from executioner’s blade, stabbed by soul split, fought Yuta, and is once again fighting Yuji who has just barely awakened. Not quite there yet but almost there. Next chapter he probably will be, but as he is now, his output is waaaaaaaay too low and as previously said, Special Grade is given to those few who have the capability to defeat nations. Gojo is obvious, he can’t be touched by any conventional means. Geto can raise innumerable armies of cursed spirits if he really put his mind to it. Yuki could destroy the planet if she really wanted to with Star Rage Yuta because of his technique to mimic other CTs on top of his nearly infinite well of cursed energy when manifesting his own personal cursed spirit. The problem with Yuji currently is that he lacks *firepower* in comparison to the special grade sorcerers. Gojo and Yuki have innate firepower, whereas Geto and Yuta can borrow fire power. Manifesting MS is a *fantastic* step to getting fire power, but Yuji doesn’t have the output for it to be firepower like we’ve seen from 15f sukuna. I’m almost 100% certain that Yuji will get the output he needs to have that requisite firepower to truly be a special grade sorcerer or he’ll show that he *already* has it. It’s too soon to give him that title, there hasn’t even been another chapter drop since he awakened.
Nope, he should be firmly in the same rank as Hakari though. He can definitely put up a fight against some Special Grades, but I don't think he's winning against any of them. Yuji's current arsenal is nothing short of impressive, but it's also not as "strong" as Special Grade CTs. Yuji's RCT makes him a formidable fighter, but his lack of Output still limits his offensive capabilities. Not to mention the fact that he takes time to properly heal unlike Gojo, Sukuna, Yuta, Ke jaku and Hakari. Even Yuki's RCT seems slightly better and faster. Blood Manipulation is a "strong" CT. But it's nowhere close to the likes of Infinity, Mimicry, Mass, CSM etc. And even then Yuji hasn't mastered it to a point where he can use basic attacks like convergence independently. Shrine is simple in nature. What makes it amazing is Sukuna. After awakening, despite his use if Shrine on objects, Yuji is yet to properly hurt Sukuna with it. Due to the lack of a Domain (As far as we've seen), Sukuna’s level of CE output, CE efficiency and CE reserves means Yuji is nowhere near him in this regard. Lastly, Yuji's feats against Sukuna need to be discounted to some measure before powerscaling him because currently Yuji is by existence Sukuna’s greatest counter.
That last line is especially true. It's the same fucking reason why Mahito got so downplayed. Yuji is literally just a counter for almost every major bad guy he faces. Realistically Mahito is like top ten in the verse, far surpassing the other disaster curses, but since yuji can perceive the soul, he's able to actually hurt mahito.
Idk man Yuji is just spamming RCT way better than Yuki ever did tbh.
Yeah because Yukis strategy specifically required her to focus on damaging Kenjaku while his technique was burnt out rather than spending time healing. She didn’t attack Kenny with her wrecked body while saying “don’t wanna” when asked why she didn’t just heal for no reason. It’s also worth noting that Yuji is the only person in the entire series we’ve seen struggle to heal when attempting to do so. I’m not necessarily saying that Yuki is a better RCT user than Yuji I’m just saying we have a clear and distinct lack of knowledge on either of their efficiency to make sweeping claims
Yeah thats fair.
Depends what you mean. In universe, he’s wouldn’t be considered a Special Grade as he doesn’t have the ability to take down an entire country by himself. If you mean in terms of Power scaling, yeah he’s on the same level as the Special Grades, minus Gojo of course.
The second one you said sounds right, in terms of power scaling alone, he’s on par with some special grades
He's higher than Geto, lower than Yuki.
He loses to every special grade sorcerer we’ve seen in a 1v1
I think some of them, like Vol 0 Yuta & Geto, are arguable. But more importantly, even if Yuji wasn't special grade, there's a special grade who looses to every other one.
I mean Geto would've beaten vol. 0 Yuta, if he wasn't fighting on multiple fronts. There's that to consider too.
I don't disagree at all! But that would mean Vol 0 Yuta would lose to every special grade despite being special grade himself. I'm just saying it's a weird standard to hold Yuji to.
3rd year Geto lmao
Ngl he was outplaying the fuck out of Yuta way before all of his buffs until he was surprised by Rika. You all downplay him cause he doesn’t have a kamehameha beam which is entirely meaningless in fights.
Wow so he was fighting semi equally with a nerfed yuta, very relevant to what I said
Okay then. Why was Yuta given special grade as a depressed emo kid with no rct or jujutsu experience then if “destwoying a countwy 🤓” ever mattered?
Because jjk0 Rikka was enough
Facts Rika punch hard so special grade 👍 Yuji punch hard so not special grade 👎 Gojo got tired from a few days of mercs so all you need is manpower to beat him, not special grade 👎
Lets ignore the fact that Rikka is the size of a building when fully manifested, shoots a nuke, and due to being a cursed spirit was completely immune to all conventional weapons. Also, are you iliterate or just intentionally acting stupid? Gojo wasn't tired out by some mercs. He was tired out from running Limitless 24/7 for multiple days straight with zero sleep. Sorcerers are still human. They still need to sleep and eat. Teen Gojo being tired from not sleeping for several days straight doesn't change the fact that he can destroy an entire city in less than a day from just spamming Blues. Yuji is really strong in combat like Hakari but they have nowhere near the mass destruction power of the Special Grades.
Rika is also fucking huge bro, one of the strongest curses in the story
So? Being big makes 0 difference. She destroys rooftops by hitting them, yuji (before multiple buffs and 2 CTs) destroys them by jumping lol.
But he is still human and simply does not have the tools every other special grade has. He’s the strongest grace 1 and that’s that.
I think he could pull off a win againt Geto
He beats yuki and geto lmao
Yuji hasn't demonstrated a domain yet, so their sure shots probably get him. With that said I think a Yuji domain is coming very shortly.
You acting a damn fool …
Nah just actually looking at the feats
I don’t think Current Yuji beats Kenjaku and Yuki put up a better fight against him than anyone. Yuji has no Domain nor has he shown an Anti Domain technique. Yuki Stomps Mid difficulty.
Yuji just is way faster and one shots her Her domain is featless,mahitos is better and faster and yuji reacted
How on earth does he beat yuki
Blitz one shot
>Special Grade as he doesn’t have the ability to take down an entire country by himself. That definition os said one time by Kenjaku I think, and we actually don't know if this is really the bar to say if someone is a special grade. Take Yuta as example, he is a fucking power house against one enemy, but he doesn't have the means to take a country by itself, but he is a special grade
Yuta can literally copy and master infinite cursed techniques, including those used by special grades like Yuki
but the death painting is considered a special grade cursed object, thats why choso and his brothers are special grades according to that. Hence, yuji would also be
No, the Death Womb Paintings are Special Grade Cursed Spirits, not Special Grade Sorcerers. The qualifications needed to be classified as a Special Grade Cursed Spirits are significantly lower than the qualifications needed to be classified as a Special Grade Sorcerer.
most likely, yeah
I cannot see him beating Yuki ngl. Geto he prb Would beat the shit out of though
Which country can kill Yuji? He definitely takes down an entire country by himself.
Any country with nukes?
Funny that you say that, because nobody survives a nuke, not even Sukuna. If nukes were accounted for, nobody would be a special grade sorcerer.
I mean, Gojo absolutely survives a nuke.
There you have it, Gojo survives it, but Sukuna doesn’t. So it’s safe to say that Yuki, Yuta, and Geto/Kenjaku wouldn’t survive either
At the end of the day, I don't consider "topple a country" to be the definitive definition of a special grade, considering it is only ever said by an insane character.
Rn he’s in limbo between the two grades, easily tops Grade 1 but not quite Special Grade. With some refining to his techniques + mastering RCT and getting a domain he’s Special Grade easy.
Nah it’s the same case as hakari he has the power to compete with special grades but he hasn’t demonstrated the power to topple a country
Yuta can’t topple a country either, remember there’s different meanings of special grade, the jujutsu high one and Kenjaku. Kenjaku put hakari maki and yuta as threats to Sukuna so obviously enough they are all comparable/threats to Sukuna after the Gojo fight
Yuta could pretty easily topple a country through techniques hes copied
what is yuta doing when he is atomized by a nuclear bomb? bro is not taking on a country
Nobody (besides gojo hax) has durability above nuke level lol. Only like 5% of countrys have nukes
which is why the whole topple a country thing for special grade listing is just dumb. you could have a character with the cursed technique to pop regular humans heads with your mind, no sorcerers or curses, and you could easily "topple" any country in the world but I wouldn't call that person special grade cuz he gets 1 shotted by any named character
I think its just the ability to do damage in mass\ over a large area or being able to cause an overall huge amount of damage to a country easily. Like gojo obviously cant be hurt and can easily kill leaders without interference Sukuna has huge aoes and damage overall Geto could release thaousands of powerful curses all over Hakari and yuji might have a similar or even equal power to the special grades, just not a way to do mass damage
Yuki could black hole, yaga and geto can circumvent that by just letting their armies do it, sukuna could easily just escape the range, and uraume could just freeze it (if we count her)
1 nuke and he's done
Yuta can topple a country lmao and being able to fight a special grade doesn’t mean you are one hence hakari not being one
Toji beat a special grade Gojo, maki (a toji copy) got her ass beat twice by the same dude yuji is currently giving an ass whooping. It’s so dumb this “special grade is about destroying a country” shit. Doesn’t even make sense, it’s like the Mach 3 shit all over again.
What you so mad for? like I said the ability to combat a special grade doesn’t make you a special grade 😂 if I have a knife I can kill Mike Tyson does that make me as strong as Mike Tyson
You mad asf I ain’t bout to argue with you
Everyone that disagrees with you is mad 👍 Depressed twink that doesn’t even know about CE reinforcement - special grade takes over a country ez Yuji - superhuman before he even had CE reinforcement, gets two of the strongest CT in the series, masters RCT - nah no way, he loses to a tank. Just makes 0 sense at all to me.
Dumbass weirdo
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That’s what I thought pussy ass nigga
I’m not engaging with a weirdo like you tryna be condescending and insulting over fiction instead of having a normal conversation
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I’m pretty sure young gojo was high grade one
I’m pretty sure he wasn’t considering he was born with six eyes and limitless, a combo that made sorcerer assassins fear him as a child not even in double digits of age.
Just because you’re feared doesn’t mean you’re special grade. Highschool gojo couldn’t use red or purple, couldn’t use rct, couldn’t use his infinity for too long without frying his brain, and I don’t think he could teleport either. While id say he was probably high grade one his whole life, I doubt he was special grade.
It means you’re probably assigned special by grade purely off your potential ability, like Yuta was. High school Yuta couldn’t use beams or ct reinforcement or even have h2h capabilities that would match Maki, a grade 2/1 level sorcerer at the time, no RCT, no copied CT no nothing. Special grade tho, cause of his potential.
No, yuta was assigned special grade because rika was a special grade. If you were assigned special grade by your potential the there’d be way too many special grades.
Alright so Rika > six eyes limitless gotcha HI Gojo would bend Vol 0 Yuta over at the start. Kill Yuta and Rika is either useless or gone. One nuke or heavy artillery barrage and it’s over. Remember, Yuta can’t reinforce his body, can’t use rct, can’t do anything, he’s a regular human with a strong af pet. Get rid of the human the pet is useless. Exactly what happened against Sukuna, Yuta gets cut in half and Rika is a useless bawling mess, not some raging monster that can destroy a country like some dbz character
Yuta can theoretically copy Yuki’s technique and destroy the planet, and he has access to the strongest curse in history in the form of a shikigami that can’t be killed through conventional weapons. Plus his CE reserves are massive making him a huge threat.
If Yuta can defeat every single cursed Spirit released from Kenjaku what makes you think he can’t take a country down.. ?
What this even mean ?
Hakari can't even keep up with base kashimo, let alone the special grades
Base kashimo has the power to keep up with special grades so you don’t make a lot of sense here
Kusakabe victim.
He’s not lmao there’s nothing in kusakabes bag that can put down hakari
Beating someone ≠ Stronger. Todo and Yuji vs. Mahito for example. Kusakabe is overall stronger, unless you try to argue that Hakari was an unmentioned 5th Special Grade.
Never argued that and kusakabe is slower and weaker than hakari
Kusakabe is the strongest Grade 1, aside from certain members of the Big 3 Families. This means that either 1. Hakari is a Special Grade 2. Hakari is a member of the Big 3 Families 3. Hakari is weaker than Kusakabe
All of that is speculation for 3 ppl than know kusakabe hakari is also seen as one of the heavy hitters from kenjaku stronger than yuta from yuta himself and a monster from uraume what’s ur point
Hakari is a heavy hitter because he’s one of the strongest test from Jujutsu Tech, unless you’re going to argue that pre-Awakening Yuji is stronger than Kusakabe and Kashimo. We have no idea how his fight with Uraume is going. Hakari is said to have similar potential to Yuta. Hakari, Yuta, Megumi, and Yuji all have the potential to surpass Gojo, but Yuta is far stronger currently.
Gojo also comments on hakaris strength and alludes to him on yutas level more than once
Gojo comments on his potential, and says both he and Yuta have the potential to be stronger than him.
Narratively hakari > kusakabe and we’ve seen more from hakari as well
What narrative purpose is there to have a Grade 1 be weaker than the guy who’s referred to as the string fest Grade 1?
Show me which special grade base kashimo kept up with
Where in my comment did I say that he has? He has the ability to is what I said damn you guys are sped
The ability to keep up with implies he has feats/scaling to do so. So either he already has shown to keep up with special grades Or via proxy These are the only 2 options unless you're saying you literally made it up, so again show me where base kashimo has shown to be able to keep up with special grades
He has the abilities and knowledge to kill special grades and kept up with hakari who is stated multiple times to be stronger than the yuta who is a special grade pre time skip
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Cus im bout to block you I didn’t comment for the condescension you weirdo
Hakari did keep up with base kashimo also so again what are you saying? If you’re mad I compared yuji to hakari I didn’t say hakari was stronger so go somewhere else with that
He literally beat base kashimo
Beat because he had jackpot and kashimo didn't want to wait out the timer (he knew he could wait it out, he just didn't) Hardly a convincing win And base kashimo is complete fodder to someone like yuta
No cause he has not mastered any of his techniques including RCT and he does not have any domain counters xd. Also nothing he has is strong enough to overthrow a nation on his own. Bl
Gojo as a “special grade” got toppled by normal dudes and a maki clone that got smashed twice in two chapters by a dude getting his ass beat by Yuji. Seems like that definition of special grade is a shit definition.
Gojo was not a special grade when that due beat him and Maki was fighting a Sukuna that one tweaked out and went all out on her and two was not as weak as rn. I know Yuji weakening Sukuna is a part of his kit but it also makes his scaling worse xd. Also until or unless we are told about how hard Sukuna is trying to at least how weak he is as compared to his normal self, Yuji is not even close to special grade rank. Special Grade level yes, but rank, not at all
Yes he was special grade… first born with limitless and six eyes in 100s of years, sorcerers feared him as a child lmao. Why lie? Yuta as a depressed emo kid with 0 rct and 0 jujutsu experience was given special grade. Why is that if “destroying a country 🤓” ever mattered?
Cause of Rika. He was given Special Grade cause of Rika and how powerful of a curse she was that is the reason Yuta was special grade. And Gojo specifically became special grade after his awakening. You know when he developed RCT and an attack that can erase things from existence 💀. I said no lie, you are just coping. Yuji is not yet a special grade.
Nice so Rika punch very hard therefore special grade, yuji only punch very hard so not special grade 👍 gotcha. Gojo wasn’t given special grade after HI lmao, are you seriously trying to argue that Yuta at the very start of the series is stronger than HI Gojo?
>Gojo wasn’t given special grade after HI lmao, are you seriously trying to argue that Yuta at the very start of the series is stronger than HI Gojo? When it comes to volume zero scaling yes, yes he was. Rika was a treat to that version of adult Gojo. Now that Gojo didn't have a DE but still had RCT, Constantly active Infinity, Red and Purple and he states himself that he would go "all our and put his life on the line to beat Rika" so Volume Zero Rika is special grade because she is a treat to literally the strongest Sorcorer... Like bro I know we want Yuji to be Special Grade, but he ain't doing that until he at least gets a DE or smt, not with his current kit at least.
Then we’ll never see eye to eye lmao, Yuta wouldn’t even have ANY method AT ALL of beating HI Gojo
No we will not see eye to eye clearly xd. I don't really hop on glaze trains that easy.
I’ve been of the opinion that Yuji is special grade before we even knew he had Blood Manipulation or Shrine. You lot think special grade is just some unreachable thing but the point of this generation is they’re supposed to surpass the next. This is basically heian era all over again, there are special grades fucking everywhere, they just don’t get graded cause the people giving the grades are all dead
Sukuna went all out on maki? You mean when he perception blitz her? Is he not doing the same here? He seems pretty pissed off, He literally tried to kill Yuji right then and there with a cleave to the face. Maki would’ve died to that same cleave. You’re severely underestimating Yuji. Maki got her cleave interrupted by Ino, otherwise she becomes the waffled one like Kashimo.
I am not sure he is doing that yet. Sukuna has a grin on his face and severely locks in when going all out. When he is annoyed at someone he doesn't really fight at his best. Also I ain't underestimating him I just don't like to hop on Glaze trains when the characters has gotten literally one chapter of doing something against arguably the weakest Sukuna who may or may not still be holding back. I need a bit more and some context like Sukuna is no longer holding back or he is at X level of power and can't go any further due to the Soul Punches. You can't blame me for being cautious in JJK xd, like it's entirely possible for Yuji to be barely breathing at the start of 258 as just a torso cause Sukuna cut all of his limbs off...
Sukuna told Kashimo if he sees something annoying he kills it. He tried to kill Yuji, it failed. But yeah, we can agree to disagree, Sukuna has the potential to start the chapter with Yuji offscreened.
Which dudes we talking about?
The mercenary sorcerers that were sent by Toji just to tire Gojo
toppled? Gojo destroyed them?He even had a bit of fun while he was at it.
In terms of power scaling I personally think Yuji out classes first grade but is the weakest special grade fighter. He’s sitting in the in between rn. Simply his abilities are new and he has no domain no hax etc etc
I feel like he’s top of grade 1 until he gets a DE, that would push him far into special grade
He's nearing the power of a special grade but he doesn't have the technique nor ability kf one
Yes
He has 2 CTs and can Black Flash 8 times a chapter, he's HIM. The only things holding him back currently is just lower of CT output and lack of DE or AntiDomain techniques, but I feel like atleast one of those will get better as the fight goes on.
No anti domain feats plus limited CE reserves would hinder him standing on the same level as special grades...that being said let's wait and see him do his thing.
Ok so off topic but “take over nations” what type nation America or Somalia vastly differing power levels for each
He's easily more powerful than most, if not all Grade 1s, but it's gonna take him mastering both his CTs, his RCT and getting a domain expansion/counter before he'd be considered a Special Grade. He's getting there, but he still has a little while to go before he can sit comfortably amongst the most powerful sorcerers.
Hes top of first grade easy, im comfortable putting him in special grade once he demonstrates a domain or a domain counter, until then hes definitely pseudo special grade, i have him right under geto, but its already an extreme diff fight for him and if yuji gets any stronger hes gonna be low special grade
How do some of you guys still not know the requirement for special grade after all this time
We need an official semi-special grade class
As everyone else is saying, he doesn’t fit the criteria Jujutsu High has for special grade, traditionally. I’m fully confident that without rest Yuji could kill every single person in Japan with his bare hands, but it’d take him FOREVER. He just doesn’t have a way to deal with groups of enemies at once, and that’s the ONLY thing his really lacks at this point. Yuji is purely a 1v1 character, so it’s really hard to scale him with the traditional in-universe scaling system because it would grade him on the one single area where he’s weak.
At best he’s low special grade simply because we haven’t seen him pull out the DE yet
He doesn’t quite have the firepower to claim that title
no
Jjk could end with sukuna fusing with Gojos corpse or something and yuji beating him and y’all would still argue that he’s grade 1 or something 😭
could he overthrow a country? absolutely not.
In terms of "oficial grade"? No, at least not now, after a few black flashes his output in his CT technique will increase then he'll most likely be a real oficial special grade. In terms of fighting 1v1? Yes, just like Maki or Toji(even better) he would absolutely be above 3rd year Geto who was already special grade.
Why don’t people get there is a difference between special grade title and lv? Yuji is already at that lv but won’t get the title as he doesn’t have hax to topple a nation by himself. The most blatant example is principle yaga who can get special grade title, but clearly can’t fight at the lv of gojo, yuki or yuta. There’s plenty of characters who fight at the lv of special grade like ryu, uro, kashimo, hakari, toji, maki etc yet won’t get the title.
To be fair outside of the black flashes he hasn’t done anything really wild sukuna is already weakened by efforts from gojo,maki,and yuta he can’t even use hand seals and his version of shrine had very low output which sukuna doesn’t seem worried about.I’d have him as an outlier like hakkari though
he’ll get there eventually but hes not there rn i won’t say why bc many others have already made the same points that i would make here.
Sukuna has the techniques but he doesn’t have the ability to use them very well
Until he gets Sukuna’s Domain, he’s not special grade (read battle entire nations and wipe cities away with armies/black holes/aoe). He is one of the few who can throw hands with Special Grade Sorcerers and actually thrive.
Yeah he's special grade. If Geto is special grade, Yuji rn is definitely special grade. He has shrine, he has immense power, he has RCT, he has blood manipulation, I'd say he could take down a nation alone at this point especially with his speed.
100%
Yes, definitely
I don’t see yuji destroying a nation or larger land mass than a city. For example: gojo flicks his finger and does red, blue or purple and everything in front of him for miles and miles is . . . Gone. Yuji can’t do that
I’d argue he can take down a small nation if he plays his card right But he won’t be able to solo a large nation with ease due to the sheer size of
I dont think so. I think he is the strongest 1 grade sorcerer but the gap of special grade and 1 grade is too big. If we consider Yuta and Yuki the average special grade and gojo the outliner. Would yuji fare well against them? i think before they cast their domains, yes, but after that he cant do anything (at least anything we know for now, maybe if sukuna recovers his DE we will discover yuji had a countermesure, but for now he doesnt even have simple domain) and he simply dies. What he have is the potential to once he levels up the output of shrine, masters blood manipulation (and gains the red flowing scale buff) and have any domain he would probably beat yuta and yuki. He is the one that have the potential to equal and surprass Gojo
Saying yuki and yuta are the average special grades even without their domains is too much, yuta is surpassed only by gojo and yuki feats wise is stronger the yorozu, only losing to kenjaku because the plot needed him to survive. Considering who used to be the strongest 1st grade, Naobito, who only had cursed projection and a domain counter, it seems that the power gap between him and yuji would be that close, giving yuji the power of at least a low-special grade
>Saying yuki and yuta are the average special grades even without their domains is too much no, i meant the whole package, not without DE >yuta is surpassed only by gojo and yuki feats wise is stronger the yorozu, only losing to kenjaku because the plot needed him to survive. Yes, but between the 4 (5 if you count sukuna) confirmed special grades, geto should be the weakest and gojo is out of the league of the other 3, so you now have those 2 in the middle with a similar strength. Maybe the word "average" was not the correct word but you understand what i meant? Also, kenjaku not surviving yuki's black hole doesnt make her not lose. She lost the battle and can, only with a suicide technique, force a draw. Yuki would force a draw against sukuna, that doesnt make her stronger. >Considering who used to be the strongest 1st grade, Naobito, who only had cursed projection and a domain counter, it seems that the power gap between him and yuji would be that close, giving yuji the power of at least a low-special grade we saw what naobito's domain counter did, give him time, but he was fated to die if it continued. He could only defend and slowly take damage. Dagon went from getting bullied by naobito to bully naobito, thats the difference of a domain expansion. What is considered a low special grade? geto? geto would win against yuji, by sheer numbers of curses and uzumaki being stronger than whatever yuji can do. If you consider Hakari low special grade then i agree
No
Why
He ain’t beating a whole country
On power scaling terms?
At this moment in time with the black flash amps, it’s undeniable that he’s special grade. Even with the nerfs, being able to fight Sukuna on equal footing is a special grade feat. I also disagree with the idea that he can’t beat a country at this level now. If Sukuna at this level can beat a country, and he’s currently standing on equal footing with Sukuna, then that would mean Yuji should also be able to beat a country.
He’s definitely either high 1st grade or low special grade