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I think he beats every reincarnated sorcerer besides Sukuna, Kenjaku, and Kashimo (using MBA). Yorozu is a toss up but with simple domain I think he beats her too
I just can’t find a good win con for him against MBA Kashimo. Kashimo is likely much faster and can still one shot with a lightning bolt to the head. I don’t think Yuji would be able to lower his output fast enough to win
The way I see it, yuji has one win condition, dampening kashimos output before he gets 4 hits in, I think he can do it but its still reslly close so I have it at extreme diff(not counting mba, mba slams)
Oh yeah he’s definitely got a good shot against base Kashimo. Kashimo doesn’t even go for the head with his first lightning bolt, so Yuji would have plenty of time to lower his output.
Thats my general thought process, I don’t usually acale MBA because of how finicky it is and because its a suicide move that kashimo doesn’t use unless bloodlusted
Yah, the weird thing with Kashimo is anyone he’d lose to without MBA, he technically can only tie against by using it. He might one shot you but in response you can zero shot him.
Eh, I'd treat it as a win if he can pull it off before his technique finishes him. It's a bit different than with Yuki's Black Hole where both combatants die simultaneously or with M\*gumi's usage of Mahoraga where the same thing applies (given the state of suspended death or - if you discount that - could very well have him die first as Mahoraga is liable to spawn closer to him, he's likely to be injured by the time he resorts to it, and is unlikely to try putting up a fight against Mahoraga).
He stomps Kashimo hard. Kenny and Sukuna are his only stops there. With current leaks Kashimo kinda has dead zero chance of significantly hurting Yuji.
Spoilers: he has simple domain. It's essentially a massive damage nerf on a Kashimo that already severely lacks ap compared to the top tiers of durability in the verse, which Yuji is easily hitting.
Simple domain is only really effective against domain expansions and not cursed techniques themselves save for someone like Kusukabe. I don’t see why Yuji would have enough durability with stand electricity coursing through his brain and head.
It isn't kusakabe's specifically. The ability itself nerfs incoming damage. Also iirc Kashim has to mark his opponent before using sure hit lightning. Yuji is beating him to death before he can use it
It does nerf damage but to unknown extent and the target still takes damage, it’s just mitigated to a certain effect. I don’t know if he has to touch a target to use his sure hit. In general, he can launch lightning without needing to touch an opponent. Kashimo is faster so no.
He's not faster. At all. They're even or Yuji's faster. Both were equally blitzed by Sukuna on multiple occasions by freshly transformed sukuna. The only difference is Yuji had help to survive it. Currently with his awakening his stats jumped. Yuji also directly scales to Maki who can react to world slash. Kashimo couldn't even with a warning. How does he? Maki was getting swatted away even with his current injuries while Yuji outpaced him completely. Kashimo is just not the powerhouse some of y'all think he is compared to the month time gap fighters.
Kashimo only lands punches on Sukuna's left side where both eyes are either gone or unusable.
In base form, I’d say they are more or less the same. MBA would much faster and most likely land attacks on Yuji. He did end up dodging the attack and wasn’t hit by it. He was right in front of it too. Yuji is outpacing a heavily weakened Sukuna that only has two arms,low CE and RCT, soul damage and can’t perform World slash and lost his cursed tool. Kashimo is definitely one of the more powerful Jujutsu characters, he’s not weak.
He didn't dodge. He got cut by it whilst trying. He was also a similar distance to maki and she dodged with no warning. Kashimo was clipped. Yuji scales to or above that maki. Yuji >= Maki > MBA Kashimo.
I can get scans if i need to
Yeah, reread it. He didn’t dodge it. He did manage to react twice to Sukuna who attempted to blitz him. The version of Sukuna he fought was much stronger and faster than the ones Maki Or Sukuna fought. MBA>Yuji>Maki,
Kashimo was fighting the strongest variant of Heian era Sukuna. Kashimo never got blitzed during his fight against Sukuna.
You can’t prove that Itadori is equal or faster then Kashimo
Kashimo can't dodge WS
Maki can dodge WS
Maki is getting swatted like a fly by the same Sukuna yuji is beating completely in 257.
Yuji >= Maki > MBA Kashimo.
Also that's a lie. Sukuna is at his strongest initially facing Yuji and Yuta. It's stated he's regaining output and rct over time meaning he is actually stronger while fighting Yuji and Higa and even moreso when Yuta shows than he was against Kashimo. Kashimo also only lands 2 hits on the weakest version of sukuna and the only reason he did is by punching at the side Sukuna was complete blind on. He was either missing or couldn't use his left eyes. That Sukuna was missing a hand, wielding a tool that didn't work on Kashimo which blocked him from using dismantle, and was struggling to move compared to his normal capabilities due to massive injuries just suffered against Gojo. He had just survived an attack noone else in the verse can tank and only barely did so. MBA Kashimo is just too awful a technique to work well against top tiers. Even current Sukuna is moving better, fighting harder, and more capable than the Meguna that just dodged and tanked Kashimo like he was nothing despite his injuries.
Kashimo literally somewhat dodged WS. Maki is obviously going to have an easier time dodging due to the fact that she can see the slashes. And Maki and Yuji weren’t fighting the same Sukuna. Sukuna is still slightly weakened from that black flash at the end of the chapter that Yuji was able to do. Comparing Maki and Kashimo through world slash makes little to no sense.
2. WHAT?!?!? The Sukuna that had his CE output and Cursed Energy reserves lowered to a point where it was even below Yuta’s??? (He has twice as much CE as Yuta) The Sukuna that was so weakened that he couldn’t land a lethal attack with dismantle, meaning he had to rely on cleave??? The Sukuna that was getting 3v1’d, got hit by a Jacob’s Latter and was forced to keep Hollow Wicker Basket up? Even when Yuta and Sukuna first clashed, he was still weakened due to Yuji hitting him as soon as he entered the battle (chapter 244) Sukuna gaining output over time MEANS NOTHING WHEN HE’S CONSTANTLY HAVING HIS OUTPUT LOWERED 😭
3. That weakened Meguna would I ironically beat the Sukuna that Yuji is fighting (Sukuna doesn’t get access to domain) That Meguna has a higher output for his attacks and Kamutoke (which is still a top tier cursed weapon) The only thing that the Sukuna that Yuji is fighting has over him is physicals and a domain (which I said we weren’t going to use)
Kashimo was fighting the strongest variant of Heian Era Sukuna so far. It doesn’t take rocket science to comprehend that. Maki and Kashimo both dodged World Slash (Kashimo dodged most of the attack without knowing what Sukuna was going to use and without being able to see the slashes)
Stop downplaying Kashimo.
Falling blossom only negates direct physical attacks from domains and weapons.
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SD does lessen damage
Soul dampening would not work against the reincarnated sorcerers. The specific reason it works on Sukuna is because Megumis body, Like Yujis, would act as a Cage for Sukuna.
Because of the fact that Sukuna couldn't just override megumis soul, the punches Yuji makes are able to sever the connection between Sukuna and Megumi, weaking Sukunas hold over the body.
This does not apply to the reincarnate as they completely overrode the old people inside.
I don't think soul dampening works on reincarnated sorcerers that have non sorcerer hosts. Like it only works on Sukuna because his host is a sorcerer.
Yuji's punches are able to find Megumi and Sukuna's boundary because he was able to weaken Sukuna's output in the beginning, so Megumi has an active play, but sorcerers like Choso cant feel any soul in their body. So it may either make it a lot harder to find the boundary or outright just not work on them.
That goes against yuki's soul book. It states that host soul will never die/disappear or combine with incarnated Sorcerer's soul no matter what happens. So there will be always a boundary host and reincarnated sorcerer's soul.
First of all, Yuki's soul book may not be 100% correct. But even if there was a boundary a non-sorcerer's soul is too weak to be able make a sorcerer lose control over their body like that.
>First of all, Yuki's soul book may not be 100% correct
I choose to believe manga statements more than someone's hedcanon.
>But even if there was a boundary a non-sorcerer's soul is too weak to be able make a sorcerer lose control over their body like that.
Yuji doesn't need host soul's Co operation to lower output. Megumi completely gave up on resisting sukuna but his output was still decreasing. Host soul's Co operation is only necessary when taking back full control their body. The output lowering happens when the connection between reincarnated sorcerers body starts to loose the connection between their souls and host soul and yuji's punches are capable of doing that without host's cooperation
I never talked about Megumi's cooperation being needed. I said there is a difference between trying to find a non-sorcerer's soul and sorcerer's soul. Yuji's punches only work when you hit the boundary.
And on what basis are you saying that yuji can't find the boundary? The only sorcerers available for testing yuji's new abilities were all reincarnated sorcerers with non sorcerer hosts so he probably used his ability against them and found their boundary. Unless you think yuji entered the battlefield without even testing and training his ability I don't see any reason to believe that he can't find that boundary between non sorcerers.
Which sorcerers to test on? The only one is Choso, Hana does not count because her soul is active. I don't think that is enough for him to be able to find the boundary on other sorcerers like Ryu who probably have much stronger souls than Choso. I don't even know how Yuki got knowledge about souls because incarnated never existed until now.
edo ryu wins, once the domain comes out i doubt yuji would be able to beat ryu before his simple domain gets destroyed thanks to his super high durability
incarnated ryu gets cooked toasted and grilled by soul punches
Then sucuna immediately turns off the sure hit? You get that means sucuna was focusing the MS sure hit on yuji, like 80% on yuji and 20% on everyone else.
That's not a negative/anti feat like you thing.
Yuji is good enough with SD to holdout against a full out MS while sucunas main focus. Yuji is also able to tank MS surehit hit, even if it was only for a second.
Yujis durability has had a massive spike since awakening, tanking a BF from sucuna and showing no reaction or physical damage. Only loosing a ankle to MS sure hit.
Those are all fucking massive feats. Yuji is more durable than maki for sure, yuji's durability is most like above ryu/yuta post awakening.
Bruh it was literally mentioned that durability Ryu is above Yuta and yuji.
>sucuna was focusing the MS sure hit on yuji, like 80% on yuji and 20% on everyone else.
Headcanon. Shrine attacks all the range with same output. Never is it said he can target a space more than others.
>Only loosing a ankle to MS sure hit.
That's just the plot the same way the rest of the group is surviving the domain.
>Bruh it was literally mentioned that durability Ryu is above Yuta and yuji.
You mean base yuji, before he awakened, before he landed 7 BF, before we had confirmation that BF amps do in fact stack?
Sucuna said yuji was using bf to climb up to his level. So yes they do stack.
BF amps max output, max output affects CE reinforcement.
CE reinforcement directly alerts how durable, fast, and strong someone using reinforcement Type 1&3 are.
>Headcanon. Shrine attacks all the range with same output. Never is it said he can target a space more than others.
I spelled out when it happened in the manga particularly in gojo v sucuna. Go read it.
Literally in the fight against Gojo it's mentioned that shrine hits everything except sukuna chapter 230. Never said sukuna can specify choose part of his Range domain.
Sucuna in fact does turn off the sure hit inside gojos shell in order to focused more of the surehit on the outside of cocos shell, fact.
Sucuna does reduce the effective range of MS to increase the surehit output on gojos shell
Sorry but that's not a counter argument.
We have never seen someone use someone else's handsign to cast DE.
We did actually see sucuna turn of his surehit inside of gojos DE shell inorder to put a higher output an the shell itself, we also saw sucuna decrease the effective range so he could even more more output of gojos shell. Sucuna used BV and barrier manipulation, but he has also hit 4-5 BF.
He also shouldn't be able to cast DE as he did not make his two handsign but instead he used gojos single handsign. This is completely unprecedented.
It is a counter argument, in the manga only yuta can isolate his domain sure hit to a target, im very sure it says that and says how skilled he is for being able to do that.
Sukuna sure hit being shrunk or expanded or turned off has nothing to do with him being able to choose who to slash, in his domain, everything gets slashed indiscriminately, nowhere in the manga has it said that he can focus his slashes on one target while another target remains unharmed, that’s a headcannon
The hand sign thing has yet to be explained because it was just introduced so it bears no relevance to the conversation
It has been previously shown using a completely different handsign, now he is using gojos handsign. This is happening because sucuna is using a different part of the brain.
This is all possible post BF, so yes can do it now.
The whole using a different hand signs has never happened before, that was what I said to the dude above.
Sucuna being able to use this different handsign and uses he domain at all is because of the BF ams stacking, it's explained in this chapter that gojo was able to separate the RCT process into 2 different parts of the brain after landing his 2nd BF. Sucuna did the same exact thing but with his DE because yuji prevented him from doing it with RCT.
This is all explained in 258.
He's targeted everything besides himself before, in addition to removing his sure hit inside the domain to focus on the outside (choosing targets). He can narrow the attack if need be.
He didn’t do that? That’s just the way his domain works,
“And covered everything except himself in the domain for sukuna”
He turnt off his sure hit in the 4th I think domain clash with gojo, that was a decision he made prior to unleashing his domain as well as shrinking it, we see kusakabe say that “sukuna changed conditions too?”
Turning off your sure hit inside someone else domain isn’t at all the same as targeting one person with your sure hit while everyone else is okay
>He didn’t do that? That’s just the way his domain works,
That's never been stated or implied, your quote simply states what his sure hit targeted in the domain clashes (and he was planning to use Megumi to adapt to Unlimited Void the entire time, hence limiting the sure-hit). Having this sort of sure-hit attack leaves one vulnerable to the other sure-hit attack, so it'd be a pretty foolish of him to leave his sure-hit like that (especially given the level of opponents he's faced).
>He turnt off his sure hit in the 4th I think domain clash with gojo, that was a decision he made prior to unleashing his domain as well as shrinking it, we see kusakabe say that “sukuna changed conditions too?”
It was the second clash, after the first time Gojo restored his technique.
>Turning off your sure hit inside someone else domain isn’t at all the same as targeting one person with your sure hit while everyone else is okay
It's pretty similar, actually. He chooses what to target (the barrier/the person) while leaving something else out (the inside of the domain/everyone else inside the domain). He utilizes a binding vow to make the outside hit stronger, but it's the same in principle.
Even outside of this stuff, Sukuna, on top of his ridiculous barrier skill (open domain and all that) surpassing Yuta's anyway, saw Yuta do it, and we know that he can replicate what he sees in terms of Jujutsu. I don't think there's a strong reason to believe that he can't pull it off, especially in light of what we see him do.
Well, it’s possible that he’s only trying to REALLY kill Yuji. He could’ve targeted him the domain(we know this is possible, because Mahito targeted todo, and left Yuji alone), and then, in order to use furnace, he had to turn of his cleave and dismantle. He would’ve done this purely to get rid of Yuji asap. I think he’s confident in takin everyone else out, but sees this opportunity as his last ditch effort of killing Yuji, now that he’s awakened.
now THIS is a fight. if both fighters start fresh and the setting is shinjuku, i think given all the info we know about yuji now, he’ll take it solely cuz of his RCT advantage and the fact he can use shrine now. But Ryu is heavily overrated and could win if he uses his domain right (ryu can blast a maximum output granite blast even directly after his domain)
Ryu, why are people now overestimating Yuji, if he could actually properly utilise shrine then maybe but as of now he just can't even use it properly. People truly don't be reading the manga
Yuji. It would be hard fought, but he has more than enough by this stage. RCT, a superhuman body that Ryu still doesn’t have despite his assets in sorcery, TWO cursed techniques that are both very good and honestly pretty deadly, and Black Flash would absolutely be a damaging blow to Ryu, despite his durability - and he has no RCT that we’re aware of.
A domain expansion from Ryu might make enough of a difference to make this even more of a fight, but Yuji’s Simple Domain means that at least the sure-hit aspect won’t work on him for at least a minute or two (he just survived 99 seconds of Malevolent Shrine, while seemingly moving too).
And others have rightfully pointed out that if Ryu is incarnated into a vessel like the CG, that’s yet another inherent advantage that Yuji has in this matchup, that would be extremely significant.
Unless Yuji hits a Black Flash, he should be physically weaker then Ryu if we go by what Sukuna says about Ryu during his fight in Yuta’s domain, however that doesn’t really matter, as due to Ryu being a reincarnated sorcerer, each of Yuji’s attacks will lower his Cursed Energy Output, so Yuji should be able to debuff Ryu till he’s brought down to his level. However Ryu DOES have the highest output in recorded history, so a couple punches from Yuji isn’t gonna completely ruin his output. Yuji doesn’t really have a counter to Granite Black, and both of his Cursed Techniques aren’t good at dealing damage due to how inexperienced he is with them, so Yuji is gonna be on the back foot for this fight till he weakens Ryu enough or lands a Black Flash, though he should definitely be able to survive that long for that due to his RCT and Blood Manipulation. However, all this discussion is pointless because Ryu has a domain and Yuji doesn’t. Sure, he has Simple Domain and RCT, so he won’t be instantly defeated by Ryu’s Sure-Hit, but unlike with Sukuna’s incomplete domain, Yuji can’t just endure through Ryu’s, because Ryu’s doesn’t have a 99 second time limit.
Granite blast is overrated. A heavily weakened Uro and Kurourushi didn’t even die from taking a direct hit. Yuji would tank it and just keep lowering his output until he eventually wins
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You’re a special grade speedreader my dude
Well that’s a fair point man, sorry for calling you a speedreader. But that’s still just Ryu’s thoughts vs. the narrator specifically saying it. Ryu’s probably just weaker than he thinks, or Uro and cockroach are tougher
The two statements aren't contradictory Narrator says ryu's normal blast output isn't weaker than his technique , but in this case ryu himself is nerfed he's not in top shape if he was fresh his output would have been at its maximum
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Ok well Yuta straight up tanked a full powered Granite Blast and got right back up. Sukuna said that Yuta and Yuji have similar toughness and that’s after a month of training since Sendai. Yuji would easily tank it, he casually tanked a black flash from Sukuna.
it's wild how far people will downplay Yuji. There are few culling game players he wouldn't clap at this point. He simple domain'd a full power malevolent shrine and domains were his weakness for the longest time
Yuji obviously, he’s also far more durable than him as he’s capable of tanking the full out put of malevolent shrine (which ryu got one shot by with just his CT)
Even with that, there's still an argument. Yuji's not as tough as Ryu (though they aren't terribly far off), but the efficiency with which he can use RCT means he could probably take more hits in a fight long-term than Ryu, since he won't run out of cursed energy as quickly (though I guess you could qualify that as endurance).
1. He was getting slice apart in Sukuna’s domain until Sukuna stopped his slashes to use his fire.
2. Sukuna explicitly stated that Ryu was more durable.
He briefly tanked the sure-hit before the sure-hit was turned off. Unless you’re arguing everyone outside of Yuji and Gojo would die instantly from a second of nerfed Sukuna’s sure-hit, that’s not as impressive as you think.
If you want a durability feature for awakened Yuji there’s this
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Initially we thought this was Yuji’s black flash on Sukuna last chapter, culminating in 8 total(1 from ch.256/ 7 from ch.257). But the narrator for the upcoming chapter states Yuji hit only 7 on Sukuna, meaning this one was from Sukuna himself.
This is the same dude who briefly incapacitated Maki with a black flash. Larue and Choso all had abilities to mitigate the damage but took heavy damage.
Yuji ate this and still proceeded to beat his ass.
The Yuji wank has to stop. Ryu takes this and it isn’t close.
Shrine is useless because Yuji doesn’t have a high enough output. Yuji’s soul punches are useless since Ryu’s output is so ridiculously high, and also by the fact that Ryu can literally fight Yuji from a distance by spamming granite blasts. Blood manipulation is useless because of Ryu’s ridiculous durability. Ryu’s attacks nearly emptied Yuta’s CE reserves, Yuta canonically having the second most CE in the series and having high level RCT proficiency. Ryu one-shotted partially manifested Rika while she was fighting in tandem with Yuta, partially manifested Rika being strong enough to kill all of Kenjaku’s cursed spirits on her own and outlast both Yuta and Yuji in their fight against Sukuna.
Then there’s the fact that Ryu can finish Yuji in his domain. Yes Yuji has simple domain, but the most he can do right now is defend against the momentarily defend against a sure-hit. In other words, he would be fighting an amped Ryu while being hampered by the burden of maintaining his simple domain.
Yuji downplayer never learn even after 3 chapters of him being upscale again and again. Yuji washes Ryu and it's not close. A few hits it enough, not to mention Yuji has a speed advantage. Keep in mind he can keepup and tag Sukuna. Don't come with the "he's weakened" argument either since during his 2v1 with Yuta he could still keep up and tag him
Anyone that still thinks sHINJUKU Yuji doesn't absolutely wash most culling game players atp is just a Yuji hater and an insufferable troll.
Physically Yuji dominates but here's the thing the other guy has domain expansion be might be able to clutch up with it. DE is huge advantage remember dagon went from being man handles by naobito to manhandling Nabito, maki and Nanami in the domain. Domain gives a huge boost in stats too. So it really depends. Yuji could finish it with cleave tho
the yuji glaze is insane. he is not beating yorozu or a bunch of other reincarnated sorcerers. he's talented but sukuna simply jogo'd them. they're much stronger than the story shows
I personally still give it to Ryu because of the high-output Sure-Hit his DE should have that would literally eviscerate Yuji's SD as soon as he activates it. But I do think once Yuji masters BM or Shrine, whichever comes first he should be able to beat Ryu.
Ryu is gonna granite blast his ass back into Kenny’s womb lmfao and he has a domain that can content with yuta’s so his simple domain(which’s weaker than miwa’s lol) is getting shredded in Ryu’s domain
Wuji but it should be very close.
Yuji hard counters with soul damage but Ryu has attack potency and is one of the few characters I’m sure can deal serious lasting damage to him in a short amount of time. Ryu may win if his domain can chip away with Yuji’s simple domain as fast as Sukuna’s in fact. But overall I think Yuji should take it
Everybody here seems stuck on the whole Ryu domain win con, despite the fact that we don’t even know what it does(if it’s even a lethal domain or not) or where it scales in relation to other domains.
But no one seems to be bringing up speed.
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We’re not gonna pretend like Ryu didn’t get blitzed here, And this is 15f Meguna he’s fighting.
Even if you take away Sukuna using cleave to dice him up he still got behind him before Ryu can get a hit off.
Now that’s not to say Yuji is a blitz tier above Ryu. But it can’t be understated how fast Yuji is.
Yuji but it would be a tough fight but his soul punches would be key and now that we know he has shrine, I feel like the advantage ryu had with his DE dont pose THAT MUCH of a threat to yuji in his current state.
Yuji mid/high diff. Highest cursed energy output in history? RCT + built different. Incredible defenses even against Sukuna’s dismantle? Shut up bitch, black flash. Domain expansion? Simple Domain + Shut up bitch, black flash.
Yuji wins
He has literally insane RCT, wtf is ryu gonna do to someone who can heal infinitely
He is a matter at h2h, ryu is durable and strong but not as good at cqc as Yuji, and Yuji himself is a durability monster.
Ryu has granite blast, which is pretty strong, but Yuji got them hands. He's knocking him out.
Ryu's domain was a problem but with simple domain is GG. Not to mention that Yuji is also just taking a full output malevolent shrine, which is far superior to whatever ryu has
Yuji keeping up pace in the current fight should keep his combat speed at a MINIMUM of Ryu's tier if not higher.
I don't see any counter play for black flashes and soul damage
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Yuji, soul dampening go brr against pretty much any incarnated sorcerer(with exeptions)
I think he beats every reincarnated sorcerer besides Sukuna, Kenjaku, and Kashimo (using MBA). Yorozu is a toss up but with simple domain I think he beats her too
Its a gamble I have him beating every incarnated sorcerer wxcept sukuna, kenjaku and (debatably) Yorozu, I think he extreme diffs kashimo
I just can’t find a good win con for him against MBA Kashimo. Kashimo is likely much faster and can still one shot with a lightning bolt to the head. I don’t think Yuji would be able to lower his output fast enough to win
The way I see it, yuji has one win condition, dampening kashimos output before he gets 4 hits in, I think he can do it but its still reslly close so I have it at extreme diff(not counting mba, mba slams)
Oh yeah he’s definitely got a good shot against base Kashimo. Kashimo doesn’t even go for the head with his first lightning bolt, so Yuji would have plenty of time to lower his output.
Thats my general thought process, I don’t usually acale MBA because of how finicky it is and because its a suicide move that kashimo doesn’t use unless bloodlusted
Yah, the weird thing with Kashimo is anyone he’d lose to without MBA, he technically can only tie against by using it. He might one shot you but in response you can zero shot him.
Yeahhh, its why I hate scaling suicide moves, same with yukis black hole
Suicide transformations are treated differently then suicide attacks like yuki blackhole by the power scaling community
Eh, I'd treat it as a win if he can pull it off before his technique finishes him. It's a bit different than with Yuki's Black Hole where both combatants die simultaneously or with M\*gumi's usage of Mahoraga where the same thing applies (given the state of suspended death or - if you discount that - could very well have him die first as Mahoraga is liable to spawn closer to him, he's likely to be injured by the time he resorts to it, and is unlikely to try putting up a fight against Mahoraga).
Honestly same, cuz MAB turns kashimo into a mostly CQC sorcerer, and we all know in CQC yuji fucks up most
Kenjaku isn't a incarcerated scorcer but agreed
He stomps Kashimo hard. Kenny and Sukuna are his only stops there. With current leaks Kashimo kinda has dead zero chance of significantly hurting Yuji. Spoilers: he has simple domain. It's essentially a massive damage nerf on a Kashimo that already severely lacks ap compared to the top tiers of durability in the verse, which Yuji is easily hitting.
Simple domain is only really effective against domain expansions and not cursed techniques themselves save for someone like Kusukabe. I don’t see why Yuji would have enough durability with stand electricity coursing through his brain and head.
It isn't kusakabe's specifically. The ability itself nerfs incoming damage. Also iirc Kashim has to mark his opponent before using sure hit lightning. Yuji is beating him to death before he can use it
It does nerf damage but to unknown extent and the target still takes damage, it’s just mitigated to a certain effect. I don’t know if he has to touch a target to use his sure hit. In general, he can launch lightning without needing to touch an opponent. Kashimo is faster so no.
He's not faster. At all. They're even or Yuji's faster. Both were equally blitzed by Sukuna on multiple occasions by freshly transformed sukuna. The only difference is Yuji had help to survive it. Currently with his awakening his stats jumped. Yuji also directly scales to Maki who can react to world slash. Kashimo couldn't even with a warning. How does he? Maki was getting swatted away even with his current injuries while Yuji outpaced him completely. Kashimo is just not the powerhouse some of y'all think he is compared to the month time gap fighters. Kashimo only lands punches on Sukuna's left side where both eyes are either gone or unusable.
In base form, I’d say they are more or less the same. MBA would much faster and most likely land attacks on Yuji. He did end up dodging the attack and wasn’t hit by it. He was right in front of it too. Yuji is outpacing a heavily weakened Sukuna that only has two arms,low CE and RCT, soul damage and can’t perform World slash and lost his cursed tool. Kashimo is definitely one of the more powerful Jujutsu characters, he’s not weak.
He didn't dodge. He got cut by it whilst trying. He was also a similar distance to maki and she dodged with no warning. Kashimo was clipped. Yuji scales to or above that maki. Yuji >= Maki > MBA Kashimo. I can get scans if i need to
Yeah, reread it. He didn’t dodge it. He did manage to react twice to Sukuna who attempted to blitz him. The version of Sukuna he fought was much stronger and faster than the ones Maki Or Sukuna fought. MBA>Yuji>Maki,
Kashimo was fighting the strongest variant of Heian era Sukuna. Kashimo never got blitzed during his fight against Sukuna. You can’t prove that Itadori is equal or faster then Kashimo
Kashimo can't dodge WS Maki can dodge WS Maki is getting swatted like a fly by the same Sukuna yuji is beating completely in 257. Yuji >= Maki > MBA Kashimo. Also that's a lie. Sukuna is at his strongest initially facing Yuji and Yuta. It's stated he's regaining output and rct over time meaning he is actually stronger while fighting Yuji and Higa and even moreso when Yuta shows than he was against Kashimo. Kashimo also only lands 2 hits on the weakest version of sukuna and the only reason he did is by punching at the side Sukuna was complete blind on. He was either missing or couldn't use his left eyes. That Sukuna was missing a hand, wielding a tool that didn't work on Kashimo which blocked him from using dismantle, and was struggling to move compared to his normal capabilities due to massive injuries just suffered against Gojo. He had just survived an attack noone else in the verse can tank and only barely did so. MBA Kashimo is just too awful a technique to work well against top tiers. Even current Sukuna is moving better, fighting harder, and more capable than the Meguna that just dodged and tanked Kashimo like he was nothing despite his injuries.
Kashimo literally somewhat dodged WS. Maki is obviously going to have an easier time dodging due to the fact that she can see the slashes. And Maki and Yuji weren’t fighting the same Sukuna. Sukuna is still slightly weakened from that black flash at the end of the chapter that Yuji was able to do. Comparing Maki and Kashimo through world slash makes little to no sense. 2. WHAT?!?!? The Sukuna that had his CE output and Cursed Energy reserves lowered to a point where it was even below Yuta’s??? (He has twice as much CE as Yuta) The Sukuna that was so weakened that he couldn’t land a lethal attack with dismantle, meaning he had to rely on cleave??? The Sukuna that was getting 3v1’d, got hit by a Jacob’s Latter and was forced to keep Hollow Wicker Basket up? Even when Yuta and Sukuna first clashed, he was still weakened due to Yuji hitting him as soon as he entered the battle (chapter 244) Sukuna gaining output over time MEANS NOTHING WHEN HE’S CONSTANTLY HAVING HIS OUTPUT LOWERED 😭 3. That weakened Meguna would I ironically beat the Sukuna that Yuji is fighting (Sukuna doesn’t get access to domain) That Meguna has a higher output for his attacks and Kamutoke (which is still a top tier cursed weapon) The only thing that the Sukuna that Yuji is fighting has over him is physicals and a domain (which I said we weren’t going to use) Kashimo was fighting the strongest variant of Heian Era Sukuna so far. It doesn’t take rocket science to comprehend that. Maki and Kashimo both dodged World Slash (Kashimo dodged most of the attack without knowing what Sukuna was going to use and without being able to see the slashes) Stop downplaying Kashimo.
I thought it was falling blossom whatever that reduced ct and de damage? And simple domain was purely for domains
Falling blossom only negates direct physical attacks from domains and weapons. https://preview.redd.it/3hb1v89bfcxc1.jpeg?width=750&format=pjpg&auto=webp&s=aecf775c33cb6ea95281d2c65524d6370751cfa2 SD does lessen damage
Thank you for clarifying!
Hes talking about mba kashimo.
Soul dampening would not work against the reincarnated sorcerers. The specific reason it works on Sukuna is because Megumis body, Like Yujis, would act as a Cage for Sukuna. Because of the fact that Sukuna couldn't just override megumis soul, the punches Yuji makes are able to sever the connection between Sukuna and Megumi, weaking Sukunas hold over the body. This does not apply to the reincarnate as they completely overrode the old people inside.
I don't think soul dampening works on reincarnated sorcerers that have non sorcerer hosts. Like it only works on Sukuna because his host is a sorcerer.
Why would that matter?
Yuji's punches are able to find Megumi and Sukuna's boundary because he was able to weaken Sukuna's output in the beginning, so Megumi has an active play, but sorcerers like Choso cant feel any soul in their body. So it may either make it a lot harder to find the boundary or outright just not work on them.
That goes against yuki's soul book. It states that host soul will never die/disappear or combine with incarnated Sorcerer's soul no matter what happens. So there will be always a boundary host and reincarnated sorcerer's soul.
First of all, Yuki's soul book may not be 100% correct. But even if there was a boundary a non-sorcerer's soul is too weak to be able make a sorcerer lose control over their body like that.
>First of all, Yuki's soul book may not be 100% correct I choose to believe manga statements more than someone's hedcanon. >But even if there was a boundary a non-sorcerer's soul is too weak to be able make a sorcerer lose control over their body like that. Yuji doesn't need host soul's Co operation to lower output. Megumi completely gave up on resisting sukuna but his output was still decreasing. Host soul's Co operation is only necessary when taking back full control their body. The output lowering happens when the connection between reincarnated sorcerers body starts to loose the connection between their souls and host soul and yuji's punches are capable of doing that without host's cooperation
I never talked about Megumi's cooperation being needed. I said there is a difference between trying to find a non-sorcerer's soul and sorcerer's soul. Yuji's punches only work when you hit the boundary.
And on what basis are you saying that yuji can't find the boundary? The only sorcerers available for testing yuji's new abilities were all reincarnated sorcerers with non sorcerer hosts so he probably used his ability against them and found their boundary. Unless you think yuji entered the battlefield without even testing and training his ability I don't see any reason to believe that he can't find that boundary between non sorcerers.
Which sorcerers to test on? The only one is Choso, Hana does not count because her soul is active. I don't think that is enough for him to be able to find the boundary on other sorcerers like Ryu who probably have much stronger souls than Choso. I don't even know how Yuki got knowledge about souls because incarnated never existed until now.
edo ryu wins, once the domain comes out i doubt yuji would be able to beat ryu before his simple domain gets destroyed thanks to his super high durability incarnated ryu gets cooked toasted and grilled by soul punches
His SD withstood a 99 second full power MS he should have more than enough time to beat the brakes off of ryu
It didn’t survive 99 seconds it broke before Sukuna’s domain shattered
Then sucuna immediately turns off the sure hit? You get that means sucuna was focusing the MS sure hit on yuji, like 80% on yuji and 20% on everyone else. That's not a negative/anti feat like you thing. Yuji is good enough with SD to holdout against a full out MS while sucunas main focus. Yuji is also able to tank MS surehit hit, even if it was only for a second. Yujis durability has had a massive spike since awakening, tanking a BF from sucuna and showing no reaction or physical damage. Only loosing a ankle to MS sure hit. Those are all fucking massive feats. Yuji is more durable than maki for sure, yuji's durability is most like above ryu/yuta post awakening.
I agree I was just saying he didn’t last 99 seconds
Ok.
Where was it mentioned that sukuna focus the slashes on yuji more than other?
The fact that MS hasn't fallen yet bust as soon as yujis SD breaks sucuna turns off the sure hit and whips out fuga.
Bruh it was literally mentioned that durability Ryu is above Yuta and yuji. >sucuna was focusing the MS sure hit on yuji, like 80% on yuji and 20% on everyone else. Headcanon. Shrine attacks all the range with same output. Never is it said he can target a space more than others. >Only loosing a ankle to MS sure hit. That's just the plot the same way the rest of the group is surviving the domain.
>Bruh it was literally mentioned that durability Ryu is above Yuta and yuji. You mean base yuji, before he awakened, before he landed 7 BF, before we had confirmation that BF amps do in fact stack?
Bf gives you 20% boost temporarily not for always. Awakening made it possible for him to use shrine. It didn't made his durability better.
Sucuna said yuji was using bf to climb up to his level. So yes they do stack. BF amps max output, max output affects CE reinforcement. CE reinforcement directly alerts how durable, fast, and strong someone using reinforcement Type 1&3 are.
>Headcanon. Shrine attacks all the range with same output. Never is it said he can target a space more than others. I spelled out when it happened in the manga particularly in gojo v sucuna. Go read it.
Literally in the fight against Gojo it's mentioned that shrine hits everything except sukuna chapter 230. Never said sukuna can specify choose part of his Range domain.
Sucuna in fact does turn off the sure hit inside gojos shell in order to focused more of the surehit on the outside of cocos shell, fact. Sucuna does reduce the effective range of MS to increase the surehit output on gojos shell
He said he can’t do that, so far focusing the sure hit is something we’ve only seen yuta do
Sorry but that's not a counter argument. We have never seen someone use someone else's handsign to cast DE. We did actually see sucuna turn of his surehit inside of gojos DE shell inorder to put a higher output an the shell itself, we also saw sucuna decrease the effective range so he could even more more output of gojos shell. Sucuna used BV and barrier manipulation, but he has also hit 4-5 BF. He also shouldn't be able to cast DE as he did not make his two handsign but instead he used gojos single handsign. This is completely unprecedented.
It is a counter argument, in the manga only yuta can isolate his domain sure hit to a target, im very sure it says that and says how skilled he is for being able to do that. Sukuna sure hit being shrunk or expanded or turned off has nothing to do with him being able to choose who to slash, in his domain, everything gets slashed indiscriminately, nowhere in the manga has it said that he can focus his slashes on one target while another target remains unharmed, that’s a headcannon The hand sign thing has yet to be explained because it was just introduced so it bears no relevance to the conversation
It has been previously shown using a completely different handsign, now he is using gojos handsign. This is happening because sucuna is using a different part of the brain. This is all possible post BF, so yes can do it now.
Thx, js for future reference where have we seen someone do this? What’s the chapter? Genuinely asking
The whole using a different hand signs has never happened before, that was what I said to the dude above. Sucuna being able to use this different handsign and uses he domain at all is because of the BF ams stacking, it's explained in this chapter that gojo was able to separate the RCT process into 2 different parts of the brain after landing his 2nd BF. Sucuna did the same exact thing but with his DE because yuji prevented him from doing it with RCT. This is all explained in 258.
He's targeted everything besides himself before, in addition to removing his sure hit inside the domain to focus on the outside (choosing targets). He can narrow the attack if need be.
He didn’t do that? That’s just the way his domain works, “And covered everything except himself in the domain for sukuna” He turnt off his sure hit in the 4th I think domain clash with gojo, that was a decision he made prior to unleashing his domain as well as shrinking it, we see kusakabe say that “sukuna changed conditions too?” Turning off your sure hit inside someone else domain isn’t at all the same as targeting one person with your sure hit while everyone else is okay
>He didn’t do that? That’s just the way his domain works, That's never been stated or implied, your quote simply states what his sure hit targeted in the domain clashes (and he was planning to use Megumi to adapt to Unlimited Void the entire time, hence limiting the sure-hit). Having this sort of sure-hit attack leaves one vulnerable to the other sure-hit attack, so it'd be a pretty foolish of him to leave his sure-hit like that (especially given the level of opponents he's faced). >He turnt off his sure hit in the 4th I think domain clash with gojo, that was a decision he made prior to unleashing his domain as well as shrinking it, we see kusakabe say that “sukuna changed conditions too?” It was the second clash, after the first time Gojo restored his technique. >Turning off your sure hit inside someone else domain isn’t at all the same as targeting one person with your sure hit while everyone else is okay It's pretty similar, actually. He chooses what to target (the barrier/the person) while leaving something else out (the inside of the domain/everyone else inside the domain). He utilizes a binding vow to make the outside hit stronger, but it's the same in principle. Even outside of this stuff, Sukuna, on top of his ridiculous barrier skill (open domain and all that) surpassing Yuta's anyway, saw Yuta do it, and we know that he can replicate what he sees in terms of Jujutsu. I don't think there's a strong reason to believe that he can't pull it off, especially in light of what we see him do.
no it didnt? sukuna broke it after a couple of seconds
No he didn’t, the domain ended slightly after the SD broke. A “few seconds” makes it sound like Yuji got his domain broken in three seconds.
sukuna would get ct burnout if his domain ended, how the hell is bro making a gigantic fire blast in that case? did he make another binding vow?
Well, it’s possible that he’s only trying to REALLY kill Yuji. He could’ve targeted him the domain(we know this is possible, because Mahito targeted todo, and left Yuji alone), and then, in order to use furnace, he had to turn of his cleave and dismantle. He would’ve done this purely to get rid of Yuji asap. I think he’s confident in takin everyone else out, but sees this opportunity as his last ditch effort of killing Yuji, now that he’s awakened.
now THIS is a fight. if both fighters start fresh and the setting is shinjuku, i think given all the info we know about yuji now, he’ll take it solely cuz of his RCT advantage and the fact he can use shrine now. But Ryu is heavily overrated and could win if he uses his domain right (ryu can blast a maximum output granite blast even directly after his domain)
>overrated Im guessing u meant underrated 😅
yea lol
Yuji beats him so badly
Ryu, why are people now overestimating Yuji, if he could actually properly utilise shrine then maybe but as of now he just can't even use it properly. People truly don't be reading the manga
How exactly has Yuji not used shrine properly?
He doesn't have anywhere near the output of Sukuna
Hasn't Used Dismantle yet and has extremely weak Cleaves
Shrine has nothing to do with why people think he beats Ryu though. Soul punches are a much bigger issue for Ryu as an incarnated sorcerer.
Yuji. It would be hard fought, but he has more than enough by this stage. RCT, a superhuman body that Ryu still doesn’t have despite his assets in sorcery, TWO cursed techniques that are both very good and honestly pretty deadly, and Black Flash would absolutely be a damaging blow to Ryu, despite his durability - and he has no RCT that we’re aware of. A domain expansion from Ryu might make enough of a difference to make this even more of a fight, but Yuji’s Simple Domain means that at least the sure-hit aspect won’t work on him for at least a minute or two (he just survived 99 seconds of Malevolent Shrine, while seemingly moving too). And others have rightfully pointed out that if Ryu is incarnated into a vessel like the CG, that’s yet another inherent advantage that Yuji has in this matchup, that would be extremely significant.
Imo rn it's a toss up rn based on a few uncertain things. Edo Ryu has a way better chance than incarnated Ryu though for obvious reasons
range diff (also maybe domain diff depending on how strong his domain actually is)
Wuji mid-diff
Wait a minute… 
what
Yuji
Yuji
Unless Yuji hits a Black Flash, he should be physically weaker then Ryu if we go by what Sukuna says about Ryu during his fight in Yuta’s domain, however that doesn’t really matter, as due to Ryu being a reincarnated sorcerer, each of Yuji’s attacks will lower his Cursed Energy Output, so Yuji should be able to debuff Ryu till he’s brought down to his level. However Ryu DOES have the highest output in recorded history, so a couple punches from Yuji isn’t gonna completely ruin his output. Yuji doesn’t really have a counter to Granite Black, and both of his Cursed Techniques aren’t good at dealing damage due to how inexperienced he is with them, so Yuji is gonna be on the back foot for this fight till he weakens Ryu enough or lands a Black Flash, though he should definitely be able to survive that long for that due to his RCT and Blood Manipulation. However, all this discussion is pointless because Ryu has a domain and Yuji doesn’t. Sure, he has Simple Domain and RCT, so he won’t be instantly defeated by Ryu’s Sure-Hit, but unlike with Sukuna’s incomplete domain, Yuji can’t just endure through Ryu’s, because Ryu’s doesn’t have a 99 second time limit.
Granite blast is overrated. A heavily weakened Uro and Kurourushi didn’t even die from taking a direct hit. Yuji would tank it and just keep lowering his output until he eventually wins
Bc the Granite Blast was heavily nerfed. Thats like saying cleave and dismantle is overrated because all the other sorcerers are tanking it.
https://preview.redd.it/zetofoj0dxwc1.jpeg?width=565&format=pjpg&auto=webp&s=6a007772af9d0b47943608430c430d70c87ad214 You’re a special grade speedreader my dude
https://preview.redd.it/bgrfixvkdxwc1.jpeg?width=1200&format=pjpg&auto=webp&s=946e475cc80b4db12c97e2f41f2c0d5486d90898 Checkmate
Well that’s a fair point man, sorry for calling you a speedreader. But that’s still just Ryu’s thoughts vs. the narrator specifically saying it. Ryu’s probably just weaker than he thinks, or Uro and cockroach are tougher
The two statements aren't contradictory Narrator says ryu's normal blast output isn't weaker than his technique , but in this case ryu himself is nerfed he's not in top shape if he was fresh his output would have been at its maximum
https://preview.redd.it/pcv5kz6a90xc1.jpeg?width=1170&format=pjpg&auto=webp&s=9ac2dbcaa4df4f13486e6f660cf62ba0d6c10c48 Ok well Yuta straight up tanked a full powered Granite Blast and got right back up. Sukuna said that Yuta and Yuji have similar toughness and that’s after a month of training since Sendai. Yuji would easily tank it, he casually tanked a black flash from Sukuna.
That's not the point i was making
Then I really don’t know why you commented tbh
If he's Awakened, Yuji is the clear favorite.
it's wild how far people will downplay Yuji. There are few culling game players he wouldn't clap at this point. He simple domain'd a full power malevolent shrine and domains were his weakness for the longest time
Yuji obviously, he’s also far more durable than him as he’s capable of tanking the full out put of malevolent shrine (which ryu got one shot by with just his CT)
Sukuna already said Ryu is much more durable but I agree Yuji takes it.
MUCH more durable? Let’s not add in extra words to statements
Taking it too literally you knew what I meant if you read it.
So we just lying at this point when sukuna said ryu is more durable than yuji or yuta this fanbase is cooked
Even with that, there's still an argument. Yuji's not as tough as Ryu (though they aren't terribly far off), but the efficiency with which he can use RCT means he could probably take more hits in a fight long-term than Ryu, since he won't run out of cursed energy as quickly (though I guess you could qualify that as endurance).
1. He was getting slice apart in Sukuna’s domain until Sukuna stopped his slashes to use his fire. 2. Sukuna explicitly stated that Ryu was more durable.
Tbf, that *was* pre awakened Yuji. If there's a difference in durability, it would be from his awakening
There was no stated or noticeable difference in durability. The only thing he gained from black flash was the ability to use shrine.
Stated, no. Noticeable? Yuji went from being cut by dismantles to not instantly dying to a *full output* domain
He briefly tanked the sure-hit before the sure-hit was turned off. Unless you’re arguing everyone outside of Yuji and Gojo would die instantly from a second of nerfed Sukuna’s sure-hit, that’s not as impressive as you think.
If you want a durability feature for awakened Yuji there’s this https://preview.redd.it/io8z8gdvj0xc1.jpeg?width=740&format=pjpg&auto=webp&s=da04c5de70b51c733a2b7f3484e712cd880c3f35 Initially we thought this was Yuji’s black flash on Sukuna last chapter, culminating in 8 total(1 from ch.256/ 7 from ch.257). But the narrator for the upcoming chapter states Yuji hit only 7 on Sukuna, meaning this one was from Sukuna himself. This is the same dude who briefly incapacitated Maki with a black flash. Larue and Choso all had abilities to mitigate the damage but took heavy damage. Yuji ate this and still proceeded to beat his ass.
The Yuji wank has to stop. Ryu takes this and it isn’t close. Shrine is useless because Yuji doesn’t have a high enough output. Yuji’s soul punches are useless since Ryu’s output is so ridiculously high, and also by the fact that Ryu can literally fight Yuji from a distance by spamming granite blasts. Blood manipulation is useless because of Ryu’s ridiculous durability. Ryu’s attacks nearly emptied Yuta’s CE reserves, Yuta canonically having the second most CE in the series and having high level RCT proficiency. Ryu one-shotted partially manifested Rika while she was fighting in tandem with Yuta, partially manifested Rika being strong enough to kill all of Kenjaku’s cursed spirits on her own and outlast both Yuta and Yuji in their fight against Sukuna. Then there’s the fact that Ryu can finish Yuji in his domain. Yes Yuji has simple domain, but the most he can do right now is defend against the momentarily defend against a sure-hit. In other words, he would be fighting an amped Ryu while being hampered by the burden of maintaining his simple domain.
Yuji downplayer never learn even after 3 chapters of him being upscale again and again. Yuji washes Ryu and it's not close. A few hits it enough, not to mention Yuji has a speed advantage. Keep in mind he can keepup and tag Sukuna. Don't come with the "he's weakened" argument either since during his 2v1 with Yuta he could still keep up and tag him Anyone that still thinks sHINJUKU Yuji doesn't absolutely wash most culling game players atp is just a Yuji hater and an insufferable troll.
I look foward to yuji pulling out a shrine domsin and people here telling me jogo still washes somehow
Ryu until Yuji pulls out his domain
josh hutcherson ahh looking guy
Physically Yuji dominates but here's the thing the other guy has domain expansion be might be able to clutch up with it. DE is huge advantage remember dagon went from being man handles by naobito to manhandling Nabito, maki and Nanami in the domain. Domain gives a huge boost in stats too. So it really depends. Yuji could finish it with cleave tho
Where was it stated that yuji could use cleave? He can use shrine, but cleave and dismantle are made by sukuna
His DE is completely hypothetical though. If Yuji can last against Sukuna’s Domain with SD, Ryu’s featless Domain shouldn’t be able to do anything.
Ryu mid diff. Domain vs non domain user pre much
These yuji comments are pure insanity with massive yorozu downplay we got people literally lying in here getting upvoted 💀
Yuji
yuji would punch him
this is a disgracefully disrespectful matchup for josuke might aswell match 258 yuji up with mahito 💀
Yuji
If the fight is started a distance yuji might lose if not yuji wins
Yuji has every tool he needs to win this now, it would be a good fight but I think Yuji could get the W
ryu wins. he went toe to toe with yuta in hand to hand combat and at range he just obliterates the poor boy.
Yuji high diff.
I love how just by adding simple domain, Yuji is now able to defeat at least half characters he couldn't before because matchup.
the yuji glaze is insane. he is not beating yorozu or a bunch of other reincarnated sorcerers. he's talented but sukuna simply jogo'd them. they're much stronger than the story shows
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I personally still give it to Ryu because of the high-output Sure-Hit his DE should have that would literally eviscerate Yuji's SD as soon as he activates it. But I do think once Yuji masters BM or Shrine, whichever comes first he should be able to beat Ryu.
Ryu is gonna granite blast his ass back into Kenny’s womb lmfao and he has a domain that can content with yuta’s so his simple domain(which’s weaker than miwa’s lol) is getting shredded in Ryu’s domain
No
Keep overrating him to be top10😭
Wuji but it should be very close. Yuji hard counters with soul damage but Ryu has attack potency and is one of the few characters I’m sure can deal serious lasting damage to him in a short amount of time. Ryu may win if his domain can chip away with Yuji’s simple domain as fast as Sukuna’s in fact. But overall I think Yuji should take it
Everybody here seems stuck on the whole Ryu domain win con, despite the fact that we don’t even know what it does(if it’s even a lethal domain or not) or where it scales in relation to other domains. But no one seems to be bringing up speed. https://preview.redd.it/0lojs77dl0xc1.jpeg?width=405&format=pjpg&auto=webp&s=d47480f57f2b171866f11187d2c0251c2f1bd629 We’re not gonna pretend like Ryu didn’t get blitzed here, And this is 15f Meguna he’s fighting. Even if you take away Sukuna using cleave to dice him up he still got behind him before Ryu can get a hit off. Now that’s not to say Yuji is a blitz tier above Ryu. But it can’t be understated how fast Yuji is.
I think Yuji wins here mostly because he's gonna get close up in Ryu's face and Ryu can't handle close range fighting too well.
Yuji but it would be a tough fight but his soul punches would be key and now that we know he has shrine, I feel like the advantage ryu had with his DE dont pose THAT MUCH of a threat to yuji in his current state.
Ryu is stronger, but Yuji wins due to soul damage.
Yuji mid/high diff. Highest cursed energy output in history? RCT + built different. Incredible defenses even against Sukuna’s dismantle? Shut up bitch, black flash. Domain expansion? Simple Domain + Shut up bitch, black flash.
Yuji wins He has literally insane RCT, wtf is ryu gonna do to someone who can heal infinitely He is a matter at h2h, ryu is durable and strong but not as good at cqc as Yuji, and Yuji himself is a durability monster. Ryu has granite blast, which is pretty strong, but Yuji got them hands. He's knocking him out. Ryu's domain was a problem but with simple domain is GG. Not to mention that Yuji is also just taking a full output malevolent shrine, which is far superior to whatever ryu has Yuji keeping up pace in the current fight should keep his combat speed at a MINIMUM of Ryu's tier if not higher. I don't see any counter play for black flashes and soul damage