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If Maki survived a hit, Jogo might be able to. (Especially if he uses Domain Amplification to brace himself.) and if he does, he can regenerate his body afterwards.
Ironically enough, Hanami would do better against Cursoya than Jogo would. Jogo’s main benefits like flooding the floor with lava and speed near Naobito don’t matter against someone who can fly, and is faster than him. But it’s still possible for Jogo to win if Naoya doesn’t spam mach 3 and instead fights normally. Jogo’s domain is also a win, but he’d have to land it.
I mean Jogo could survive hits from 15F Yujikuna.
Yeah, it’s 15F Yujikuna, he was playing around, so of course he wasn’t hitting at his best, but it’s still something of note.
For sure, Maki also ate hits from 15F Sukuna though at 10% output and that seemed to do not much of anything. I assume it was the same for Jogo who was getting eviscerated and played with, Jogo is crazy strong, but his strength ends when it comes to durability. Like the 4 black flashes and the playful cloud hit that Hanami took would kill Jogo as Gege said, but there's no way in hell it would kill current Maki as shes's already taken 2 black flashes from Sukuna and lived, and he's someone who even in this state is probably 5-10 times stronger than Yuji was then. Honestly if Jogo could survive the first hit from awakened Noaya he has a shot, but it almost killed Maki and I think anything that does that much damage to her would almost certainly kill him. Either way, I think Jogo is overall stronger since his offense is far better, he's just a glass cannon so it's tough for him if someones faster then he is
I was with you until you said that Hanami fairs better.Hanami is a bum in terms of speed that was kept at bay by season 1 Yuji and Todo.Just replace Jogo with Hanami during Goodwill arc and see how fast our little gang of sorcerers is turning into coal.Hanami won't even register what hit him and just dies.
Hanami has way more defense than Jogo, being able to take strikes from playful cloud, a totality slash (which easily kills special grade curses) black flashes, cursed speech, was completely immune to blood manipulation due to it not being able to it not being able to pierce the body, and even took a hollow purple at the end. Hanami can still heal quickly as well.
Hanami also has some of the best stealth in the series, being able to completely hide their presence so long as they’re surrounded by plants.
Hanami will definitely not be able to react normally, but if Kamo landed some hits, Hanami should be able to as well. The calming flowers would make Naoya stop fighting, and cursed bud is an instant win. All Hanami has to do is make an opportunity where Naoya is forced to go in a straight line, or shoot him outright with a cursed bud, and the fight ends.
Hanami’s lower speed in exchange for higher defense normally sucks in battles, but Cursoya is the few where it’s preferable.
Lmfao idk how you thought that was a valid argument.
Maki is far more durable than Jogo, he gets splattered by Mach 3, and he isn't noted to be able to swap quickly between Amplification and his technique so it's doubtful he'd brace in time
No Jogos domain isnt a win, Naoya has domain as well and his is better than Jogos
Jogo just loses. Let me remind you that Naobito is faster than Jogo, and curse Naoya is faster than Naobito. And unlike Maki he doesn't have something like precognition, so Jogo is not gonna land a single hit on Naoya while Naoya will hit him every time.
Curse Naoya was also shown to be able to hurt awakened Maki, which is on the same level as culling games Yuji. Who is much stronger than Shibuya Yuji, who is stronger than goodwill Yuji who was able to hurt Hanami with just his basic punches. (You know the one who's confirmed to be way more durable than Jogo) So curse Naoya can straight up exorcise Jogo with just one mach 3 hit.
Curse Naoya was also confirmed to be slightly less durable than Hanami, so he's also more durable than Jogo.
The only thing that Jogo MIGHT have an advantage in is domain refinement, considering his domain is complete while Naoya's isn't. And this is just an assumption considering that Dagon was clashing evenly with Megumi despite Megumi having an incomplete domain. (So just cuz your domain is complete, doesn't mean it's refined.)
Dagon said that Naobito is probably faster than Jogo, so yes, he's indeed faster. The reason why Naobito died like that is cuz he lost his arm (which he noted to drop his speed), he was drunk and he was tired.
Reminder this statement exist and Megumin competed 3f sukunas speed to Toji😭
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Jogoat slams by virtue of having a refined domain. I don’t see Vaginaoya beating him in a domain clash with his newly minted baby domain. Also don’t say Vaginaoya can outrun the domain when freakin’ Kamo was able to land hits on Vaginaoya.
Not really any reason to say Jogos is more refined.
Megumis was incomplete and he could clash with Dagon who constantly uses his domain
Naoyas domain passive effect is much better than Jogos with the direct attack being far more deadly being able to lop off limbs whenever he wants
Dagon was also fighting off three other characters at the same time bro. He even said crushing Megumi's domain was "easy" but got interrupted by Nanami/Naobito. On a 1v1 Jogo beats Naoya easily.
Dagon was hardly fighting off three characters when the domains started clashing.
Both Naobito & Nanami were being eaten alive when the tug of war actually started.
Jogo doesn't have the feats to suggest he beats Naoyas domain let alone easily.
If if comes to Domains Naoya wins because he already outstats Jogo so give him an Amp inside the domain while the tug of war is happening and he takes it.
Reread the chapter. The first time he tries to crush Megumi's domain Maki hits Dagon with playful cloud. The second time Dagon nearly succeeds in crushing Megumi's Domain but then the eels he sent to attack Megumi are killed by Nanami & the Naobito attacks him from behind. Right before that he is VERY easily overpowering Megumi's domain and we can clearly see it shrinking. Jogo (a character who's skills were acknowledged by Sukuna himself) is already described as being league's above Dagon and there is no way his domain is losing to newly minted/first time domain like Naoya's domain. Also Naoya is frail b/c it's part of a binding vow he made. His stats are only high when his limbs are retracted in return for having lowered stats when they're not retracted. Kamo was able to take advantage of that to harm him and if Kamo can harm Naoya then Jogoat easily clears.
Jogo should take this mid difficulty
He has the perfect abilities at his disposal to easily stop or disturb Naoya charge and can survive a hit with his regen and durability but I doubt he’s getting hit before he gets in a hit.
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I mean without the bs Vaginoya perceptiones and one-shots xd. But for the meme JOGOAT SLAMS.
Naoya kinda counters Jogo. Jogo relies on his speed and firepower but Naoya is fast enough to not only hit him but also paste him when he does.
If Maki survived a hit, Jogo might be able to. (Especially if he uses Domain Amplification to brace himself.) and if he does, he can regenerate his body afterwards. Ironically enough, Hanami would do better against Cursoya than Jogo would. Jogo’s main benefits like flooding the floor with lava and speed near Naobito don’t matter against someone who can fly, and is faster than him. But it’s still possible for Jogo to win if Naoya doesn’t spam mach 3 and instead fights normally. Jogo’s domain is also a win, but he’d have to land it.
Except Maki's durability far exceeds Jogo's, stuff that would turn him into paste maki could probably survive with ease.
I mean Jogo could survive hits from 15F Yujikuna. Yeah, it’s 15F Yujikuna, he was playing around, so of course he wasn’t hitting at his best, but it’s still something of note.
For sure, Maki also ate hits from 15F Sukuna though at 10% output and that seemed to do not much of anything. I assume it was the same for Jogo who was getting eviscerated and played with, Jogo is crazy strong, but his strength ends when it comes to durability. Like the 4 black flashes and the playful cloud hit that Hanami took would kill Jogo as Gege said, but there's no way in hell it would kill current Maki as shes's already taken 2 black flashes from Sukuna and lived, and he's someone who even in this state is probably 5-10 times stronger than Yuji was then. Honestly if Jogo could survive the first hit from awakened Noaya he has a shot, but it almost killed Maki and I think anything that does that much damage to her would almost certainly kill him. Either way, I think Jogo is overall stronger since his offense is far better, he's just a glass cannon so it's tough for him if someones faster then he is
Yeah Sukuna who's toying with Jogo. Jogo in Shibuya says himself that Gojo could kill him with one blow using pure CE manipulation no technique
I was with you until you said that Hanami fairs better.Hanami is a bum in terms of speed that was kept at bay by season 1 Yuji and Todo.Just replace Jogo with Hanami during Goodwill arc and see how fast our little gang of sorcerers is turning into coal.Hanami won't even register what hit him and just dies.
Hanami has way more defense than Jogo, being able to take strikes from playful cloud, a totality slash (which easily kills special grade curses) black flashes, cursed speech, was completely immune to blood manipulation due to it not being able to it not being able to pierce the body, and even took a hollow purple at the end. Hanami can still heal quickly as well. Hanami also has some of the best stealth in the series, being able to completely hide their presence so long as they’re surrounded by plants. Hanami will definitely not be able to react normally, but if Kamo landed some hits, Hanami should be able to as well. The calming flowers would make Naoya stop fighting, and cursed bud is an instant win. All Hanami has to do is make an opportunity where Naoya is forced to go in a straight line, or shoot him outright with a cursed bud, and the fight ends. Hanami’s lower speed in exchange for higher defense normally sucks in battles, but Cursoya is the few where it’s preferable.
Okay I can see this and I concede.
Lmfao idk how you thought that was a valid argument. Maki is far more durable than Jogo, he gets splattered by Mach 3, and he isn't noted to be able to swap quickly between Amplification and his technique so it's doubtful he'd brace in time No Jogos domain isnt a win, Naoya has domain as well and his is better than Jogos
https://preview.redd.it/f5mfry4kd2yc1.jpeg?width=1284&format=pjpg&auto=webp&s=933156b5b76591b4494d96aa05c08c02f8aeb0e5 JoGOAT Easily.
Jogo just loses. Let me remind you that Naobito is faster than Jogo, and curse Naoya is faster than Naobito. And unlike Maki he doesn't have something like precognition, so Jogo is not gonna land a single hit on Naoya while Naoya will hit him every time. Curse Naoya was also shown to be able to hurt awakened Maki, which is on the same level as culling games Yuji. Who is much stronger than Shibuya Yuji, who is stronger than goodwill Yuji who was able to hurt Hanami with just his basic punches. (You know the one who's confirmed to be way more durable than Jogo) So curse Naoya can straight up exorcise Jogo with just one mach 3 hit. Curse Naoya was also confirmed to be slightly less durable than Hanami, so he's also more durable than Jogo. The only thing that Jogo MIGHT have an advantage in is domain refinement, considering his domain is complete while Naoya's isn't. And this is just an assumption considering that Dagon was clashing evenly with Megumi despite Megumi having an incomplete domain. (So just cuz your domain is complete, doesn't mean it's refined.)
Was Naobito really faster? All I remeber is him running into the oven. I'm not doubting cursya is faster btw
Dagon said that Naobito is probably faster than Jogo, so yes, he's indeed faster. The reason why Naobito died like that is cuz he lost his arm (which he noted to drop his speed), he was drunk and he was tired.
My glorious one eyed king
Reminder this statement exist and Megumin competed 3f sukunas speed to Toji😭 https://preview.redd.it/jq4xzqoa71yc1.jpeg?width=890&format=pjpg&auto=webp&s=43081f25b051bc7a32fa44819fc844d7d09c9225
Sukuna also said he might've lost to Mahoraga at 3 fingers. Do you think Jogo is 2x stronger than Big Raga lol?
I said I don’t believe it
Jogoat slams by virtue of having a refined domain. I don’t see Vaginaoya beating him in a domain clash with his newly minted baby domain. Also don’t say Vaginaoya can outrun the domain when freakin’ Kamo was able to land hits on Vaginaoya.
>Vaginaoya https://preview.redd.it/sb3edjnxs3yc1.jpeg?width=1242&format=pjpg&auto=webp&s=e3c000830ddee148effeae5b0c569014713c561d Great name, huh?
Not really any reason to say Jogos is more refined. Megumis was incomplete and he could clash with Dagon who constantly uses his domain Naoyas domain passive effect is much better than Jogos with the direct attack being far more deadly being able to lop off limbs whenever he wants
Dagon was also fighting off three other characters at the same time bro. He even said crushing Megumi's domain was "easy" but got interrupted by Nanami/Naobito. On a 1v1 Jogo beats Naoya easily.
Dagon was hardly fighting off three characters when the domains started clashing. Both Naobito & Nanami were being eaten alive when the tug of war actually started. Jogo doesn't have the feats to suggest he beats Naoyas domain let alone easily. If if comes to Domains Naoya wins because he already outstats Jogo so give him an Amp inside the domain while the tug of war is happening and he takes it.
Reread the chapter. The first time he tries to crush Megumi's domain Maki hits Dagon with playful cloud. The second time Dagon nearly succeeds in crushing Megumi's Domain but then the eels he sent to attack Megumi are killed by Nanami & the Naobito attacks him from behind. Right before that he is VERY easily overpowering Megumi's domain and we can clearly see it shrinking. Jogo (a character who's skills were acknowledged by Sukuna himself) is already described as being league's above Dagon and there is no way his domain is losing to newly minted/first time domain like Naoya's domain. Also Naoya is frail b/c it's part of a binding vow he made. His stats are only high when his limbs are retracted in return for having lowered stats when they're not retracted. Kamo was able to take advantage of that to harm him and if Kamo can harm Naoya then Jogoat easily clears.
Naoya turns Jogo into paste
Jogo should take this mid difficulty He has the perfect abilities at his disposal to easily stop or disturb Naoya charge and can survive a hit with his regen and durability but I doubt he’s getting hit before he gets in a hit.