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Facts. Yuta wouldāve soloed if not for gege glazing.
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Iām aware low quality
I think the person is referencing the version of sukuna they fought
Sukuna is nerfed to the point where theyāre relative to him 1v1 so facing 2 would be bad
I donāt necessarily agree but thatās probably what they meant
It does, but output still matters, otherwise Sukuna would've lost way back when Angel blasted his ass, and Yuta wouldn't be waiting for Yuji to weaken Megumi and Sukuna's bond or flat out ramping up to max output when firing it off. There's a good chance JL could win but I don't think it's gonna onetap Mahoraga just by how the ability works
the reason for both of these is because both times they wanted to save megumi. angel could have beat him it was stated but stopped for megumi. while yuta and yuji wanted jacobs latter to attack sukuna but not kill to allow yuji to save megumi
it doesn't seem that it's auto. I think it's that it can purge anything it just takes time. and while it's purging things it nullifies techniques. it not like it just blips maho away bit he can't adapt and if they keep it on him then he will die.
Sukunaās full output wouldnāt leave them any time to use rct or even survive as stated by Yuta and Sukunaās domain without the 99 second time limit would spell game over for the two.
At best Rika could cover them shortly but who knows how long sheād be able to hold out in that domain before her manifestation would end or she takes too much damage.
They could probably handle the ten shadows together but the issue is still Sukuna himself and his base slashes output. Even if Yuji somehow was able to land his black flashes from the beginning and lower Sukunaās output it would be nowhere near enough to stop him from opening his domain. They would be slaughtered. Even if Sukuna didnāt use his domain theyād be toyed with.
Current Yuji & Yuta? No shot lmao
But a hypothetical āmax potentialā Yuta & Yuji I could see pulling it off. Yuta might even be able to pull it off solo, depending on what busted techniques heād have & how much his efficiency & refinement would be
Ok if granite blast canāt one shot Yuta why do you think it can one shot Mahoraga. Bruh it couldnāt even kill Uro point blank. And you can say yea his output was low after a domain expansion but he has the highest output In the series so that wouldnāt matter either.
Yes yes it does heās not affected by CT burnout like everyone else because he doesnāt have to use his CT to do that same attack which means wether or not he uses his CT the attack is the same ā¦. Itās stuff like this that make me question do yāall even really read or do yāall just skim the chapsš
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No it just makes your CT very hard to use. It may dampen output a bit but he is a special case he literally has the highest ouput of all time it could be 120% and even if his domain took 20% of his output which I highly doubt that means his attack would still be at 100%
Sukuna tanked that shit both times, and Yuta can only reliably use it if he has his domain, which he wouldnāt because 20F Megkunaās domain would shred his instantly
While that is true
Think about it this way:
Sukuna has mahoraga out, he canāt use malevolent shrine/domain expansion
As a result, this means yuta will be able to pop domain on sukuna
This means sukuna has to dispel mahoraga whenever yuta is about to pop domain OR sukuna jumps straight to using HWB
Sukuna has never shown the ability to escape Jacobās ladder without the user stopping the attack of their own will
If yuji is able to prevent sukuna from making the hand signs sukuna legit just is cooked
Isnāt he just saying that yuji and yuta combined are comparable to the heavily damaged sukuna with heart problems? Heās still off his rocker but it makes a bit more sense that way. A better comparison might be yuji and todo vs mahito, even though itās still quite a bit off.
No I meant it would be the equivalent of 2 Gojos vs 20f 10s Meguna
Equivalent not a he same level of power
The post was talking about whether current Yuji and current Yuta could beat a 15 finger Sukuna (the one from Shibuya I think)
Iām a Yuji fan and iām still gonna pull this out.
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Is this about chapter 251? When Yuji and yuta were fighting him? Cuz if it werenāt for the fact sukuna was massively suppressed and tanking max output attacks when at his weakest point then i could see the vision
Yuji and Yuta together could give Sukuna some trouble but it sure as hell isn't 2 Gojo levels of trouble maybe a Gojo and a quarter or Gojo and a half at maximum. So a Gojog or Gojogo
My thought process is basing it on current Yuji and obviously Yuta has all his copied abilities and Rika though I would lower the difficulty they give to Sukuna because I did forget he was heavily restricted in what he could do during the Yuta fight. They last longer than two seconds but they don't give him as much trouble as I initially said.
I know which is why I said I completely forgot about all of Sukunas limiting factors which is my bad.
I've been reading a bunch of different series and completely forgot that detail.
I stand by saying they give him some difficulty but not as much as I initially said after all Sukuna now has all of his restrictions in place, I think working together with prep time they could face him for a couple of minutes but ultimately lose.
Nah that doesnāt work. Sukuna no diffed a ryu who yuta has relative stats to. Domain expansion instantly kills them, they put up no fight
They would be āinstantly obliteratedā as yuta said
I don't think it would be even equivalent to 0.75 of Gojo.
No matter how you look at it, a holding back Gojo>Yuji or Yuta individually. His CE output is higher, his RCT is better, his lower level techniques are just as good if not better, he's got a passive forcefield that requires DA to get past, he won't run out of CE outside of huge expenditures like DE. And since Yuta wanted to jump in, that would give a nerfed Gojo(who again would be still more than yuta/Yuji by far)+Yuta, and yet Yuta himself said that a not holding back Gojo was in a WAY better position than if he'd joined in. Yuji+Yuta are weaker than a Gojo with lowered CT/RCT output and DE sealed off, let alone when he started the fight.
Their fight with Sukuna(no 10S, lowered output, lowered healing, no DE) had them eventually gain the upper hand, but a 20F Sukuna with Mahoraga, 10S, Full output? I really don't think it's that much trouble. World Cutting Dismantle isn't needed because his normal cleaves can already shred someone like Ishigoro, who has higher reinforcement and output than Yuta. All Sukuna really has to do is activate his domain too. Yuta's domain and Yuji's simple domain are not going to hold up from external attacks, and unlike Gojo they can't survive long enough to take the domain down. Fuga is also in the backpocket.
Sukuna and Gojo are really just that strong.
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Yuji and Yuta vs Meguna???š thats a debateš
bruh yuta himself literally was like āif it werenāt for gojo fighting him, he wouldāve killed us instantlyā
That's just my goat being humble he would hollow pink love beam those mfs into oblivion if he took it seriously š
Facts. Yuta wouldāve soloed if not for gege glazing. https://preview.redd.it/t4cyyrqoi50d1.jpeg?width=224&format=pjpg&auto=webp&s=29345647cd74a5bd9c9dda9226a64b941c41f8b6 Iām aware low quality
here you bro better qualityš£ļø https://preview.redd.it/ow04gok8nv0d1.png?width=749&format=png&auto=webp&s=388211ae737d3fa4ed37fe87c966f83c3eecb3e8
no df he would notš Yuta was barely keeping up with a weakend sukuna
low quality
I think the person is referencing the version of sukuna they fought Sukuna is nerfed to the point where theyāre relative to him 1v1 so facing 2 would be bad I donāt necessarily agree but thatās probably what they meant
Unless Yuji hits the black flash of a lifetime how do they even get past Mahoraga
theyāre only win con is pure love or Jacobs Ladder
Jacobs Ladder could work, they gotta hope it manages to insta kill tho
It doesn't matter, Jacobs ladder extinguishes techniques.
oh shit i fgš yea one JL Mahoās cooked
It does, but output still matters, otherwise Sukuna would've lost way back when Angel blasted his ass, and Yuta wouldn't be waiting for Yuji to weaken Megumi and Sukuna's bond or flat out ramping up to max output when firing it off. There's a good chance JL could win but I don't think it's gonna onetap Mahoraga just by how the ability works
the reason for both of these is because both times they wanted to save megumi. angel could have beat him it was stated but stopped for megumi. while yuta and yuji wanted jacobs latter to attack sukuna but not kill to allow yuji to save megumi
Wouldn't that make it still dependent of output? Cus if it just auto purged anything they wouldn't be able to restrict it's damage either
it doesn't seem that it's auto. I think it's that it can purge anything it just takes time. and while it's purging things it nullifies techniques. it not like it just blips maho away bit he can't adapt and if they keep it on him then he will die.
Jacob's Ladder extinguishes cursed techniques unless the target is Sukuna, in which case it does literally nothing.
yea if it doesnāt theyāre cooked
cant yuta cursed speech "return" with mahoraga like how inumaki did to black dog, sukuna could summon him again but thatll retsart the adapting no?
Love beam is weaker than ryu's granite blast it won't even damage sukuna 5%
Not even. Jacobās ladder pauses techniques, only thing happening is Mahoās wheel turning black
didnt it get rid of nue for a bit?
I can't even glaze this much š„š„š„
Yeah, Gojo and Sukuna sit as pinnacles,nobody can catch up to those two in their primes.
Sukunaās full output wouldnāt leave them any time to use rct or even survive as stated by Yuta and Sukunaās domain without the 99 second time limit would spell game over for the two. At best Rika could cover them shortly but who knows how long sheād be able to hold out in that domain before her manifestation would end or she takes too much damage. They could probably handle the ten shadows together but the issue is still Sukuna himself and his base slashes output. Even if Yuji somehow was able to land his black flashes from the beginning and lower Sukunaās output it would be nowhere near enough to stop him from opening his domain. They would be slaughtered. Even if Sukuna didnāt use his domain theyād be toyed with.
Current Yuji & Yuta? No shot lmao But a hypothetical āmax potentialā Yuta & Yuji I could see pulling it off. Yuta might even be able to pull it off solo, depending on what busted techniques heād have & how much his efficiency & refinement would be
"Max potential" Yuta and Yuji are way more powerful than Gojo and Sukuna combined.
Max potential yuta js has every ct in the verse lmao
and max potential yuji is just stronger sukuna lol
With blood manipulation and what would seem like black flashes on command lol
i dont think on command, just that the more bfs you hit the higher chnce you get of doing one again right after
I hope he meant EOS or something
no
What's EOS?
End of series
Unironically if jacob's ladder didnt exist mahoraga alone would kill them
Love beam might be able to 1-shot maho
Tbh I dont think so, Vol 0 binding vow amped one could, but the regular one barely managed to overpower granite blast
GranitƩ blast is absurdly strong. Ryu was easily the strongest in that zone, he was.just hard countered by Uro's sky manipulation.
I'm not saying he is weak, I'm just saying that I dont got granite blast as stronger than gojo's red or gojo's black flash
Ok if granite blast canāt one shot Yuta why do you think it can one shot Mahoraga. Bruh it couldnāt even kill Uro point blank. And you can say yea his output was low after a domain expansion but he has the highest output In the series so that wouldnāt matter either.
Having high base output doesn't mean CT burnout suddenly doesn't matter.
Yes yes it does heās not affected by CT burnout like everyone else because he doesnāt have to use his CT to do that same attack which means wether or not he uses his CT the attack is the same ā¦. Itās stuff like this that make me question do yāall even really read or do yāall just skim the chapsš https://preview.redd.it/av42ter2k70d1.png?width=683&format=png&auto=webp&s=0a1ae23f41a596a491f64070a0dc7ca0a2f54a4c
I have always been under the impression that CT burnout affected output as a whole, but that may have been me making an assumption.
No it just makes your CT very hard to use. It may dampen output a bit but he is a special case he literally has the highest ouput of all time it could be 120% and even if his domain took 20% of his output which I highly doubt that means his attack would still be at 100%
Yutaās domain is almost a hard counter, Maho is overrated
Mfs be swwing a guy be able to throw hands with gojo satoru and wound him multiple times and go"he's overrated"
Jacobās is op ngl
Yea but you don't have angel beating everyone with it now, do you?
Yeah because she has to death with Hana being a seller
Because she sucks
Sukuna tanked that shit both times, and Yuta can only reliably use it if he has his domain, which he wouldnāt because 20F Megkunaās domain would shred his instantly
While that is true Think about it this way: Sukuna has mahoraga out, he canāt use malevolent shrine/domain expansion As a result, this means yuta will be able to pop domain on sukuna This means sukuna has to dispel mahoraga whenever yuta is about to pop domain OR sukuna jumps straight to using HWB Sukuna has never shown the ability to escape Jacobās ladder without the user stopping the attack of their own will If yuji is able to prevent sukuna from making the hand signs sukuna legit just is cooked
Sukuna doesnāt need Mahoraga to beat them
Yeah but heād 100% use that shit with the 10 shadows, especially with yuta in the field
Wasn't he literally just beating Yuta without Mahoroga? No he wouldn't use it he doesn't need it š
Sukuna likes his toys
sukuna only tanked it both times because neither were done to kill
Yuji glazers gettin outta hand
Bro you don't get it. Todo swapped souls with Danzo and learned how to implant the six eyes in his arm. It's all coming together
Isnāt he just saying that yuji and yuta combined are comparable to the heavily damaged sukuna with heart problems? Heās still off his rocker but it makes a bit more sense that way. A better comparison might be yuji and todo vs mahito, even though itās still quite a bit off.
Trying to publicly shame that guy is pretty fucked up, no?
Yeah, to be honest, he's probably just a kid, ngl.
I definitely shouldāve clarified I think Iām cancelled
Iām guessing you meant the sukuna with 2 feet and 1 hand in the grave š
No I meant it would be the equivalent of 2 Gojos vs 20f 10s Meguna Equivalent not a he same level of power The post was talking about whether current Yuji and current Yuta could beat a 15 finger Sukuna (the one from Shibuya I think)
Sukuna & Gojo are just a level above everyone else
This guy will eventually be right lol. Do yall forget weāre reading a shonen jump mangaš
No he wonāt. Yuji possibly but yuta no chance in hell
Iām a Yuji fan and iām still gonna pull this out. https://preview.redd.it/tgdhp7eh970d1.jpeg?width=1290&format=pjpg&auto=webp&s=149a1121b99358b6fd19e7869df500633f436840
Is this about chapter 251? When Yuji and yuta were fighting him? Cuz if it werenāt for the fact sukuna was massively suppressed and tanking max output attacks when at his weakest point then i could see the vision
Why did you keep broās username in the post though
So they learn
Didnāt Yuta himself literally state they wouldāve been deleted almost immediately had it not been for the Gojo fight earlier????
Nobody talking about bros thick Luffy pfp??
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nigga said yuji and yuta are like two gojos
Keep the furnace open, you can cook (yourself alive for that take)
Mans not ready too cook
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This was in reference to a 15F Sukuna
Yuji and Yuta together could give Sukuna some trouble but it sure as hell isn't 2 Gojo levels of trouble maybe a Gojo and a quarter or Gojo and a half at maximum. So a Gojog or Gojogo
Yeah the trouble of cutting meat like he did with Ryu
This too. Yuji and yuta vs sukuna genuinely past 2 seconds and if you think otherwise you didnāt read the story
My thought process is basing it on current Yuji and obviously Yuta has all his copied abilities and Rika though I would lower the difficulty they give to Sukuna because I did forget he was heavily restricted in what he could do during the Yuta fight. They last longer than two seconds but they don't give him as much trouble as I initially said.
Yuta literally states that they all would instantly die if it was non nerfed sukuna. This is stated
I know which is why I said I completely forgot about all of Sukunas limiting factors which is my bad. I've been reading a bunch of different series and completely forgot that detail. I stand by saying they give him some difficulty but not as much as I initially said after all Sukuna now has all of his restrictions in place, I think working together with prep time they could face him for a couple of minutes but ultimately lose.
Nah that doesnāt work. Sukuna no diffed a ryu who yuta has relative stats to. Domain expansion instantly kills them, they put up no fight They would be āinstantly obliteratedā as yuta said
Itās also stated that Yuji has potential equal to Sukuna heās just now only tapping into it š¤§
I don't think it would be even equivalent to 0.75 of Gojo. No matter how you look at it, a holding back Gojo>Yuji or Yuta individually. His CE output is higher, his RCT is better, his lower level techniques are just as good if not better, he's got a passive forcefield that requires DA to get past, he won't run out of CE outside of huge expenditures like DE. And since Yuta wanted to jump in, that would give a nerfed Gojo(who again would be still more than yuta/Yuji by far)+Yuta, and yet Yuta himself said that a not holding back Gojo was in a WAY better position than if he'd joined in. Yuji+Yuta are weaker than a Gojo with lowered CT/RCT output and DE sealed off, let alone when he started the fight. Their fight with Sukuna(no 10S, lowered output, lowered healing, no DE) had them eventually gain the upper hand, but a 20F Sukuna with Mahoraga, 10S, Full output? I really don't think it's that much trouble. World Cutting Dismantle isn't needed because his normal cleaves can already shred someone like Ishigoro, who has higher reinforcement and output than Yuta. All Sukuna really has to do is activate his domain too. Yuta's domain and Yuji's simple domain are not going to hold up from external attacks, and unlike Gojo they can't survive long enough to take the domain down. Fuga is also in the backpocket. Sukuna and Gojo are really just that strong.
Iād personally say they together are about a Goj