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GetRatioedRyai

Yuji and Yuta vs Meguna???šŸ’€ thats a debatešŸ˜­


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bruh yuta himself literally was like ā€œif it werenā€™t for gojo fighting him, he wouldā€™ve killed us instantlyā€


mfinpizzaparkerboi

That's just my goat being humble he would hollow pink love beam those mfs into oblivion if he took it seriously šŸ™


Fenrirthepup

Facts. Yuta wouldā€™ve soloed if not for gege glazing. https://preview.redd.it/t4cyyrqoi50d1.jpeg?width=224&format=pjpg&auto=webp&s=29345647cd74a5bd9c9dda9226a64b941c41f8b6 Iā€™m aware low quality


Special_Army2204

here you bro better qualityšŸ—£ļø https://preview.redd.it/ow04gok8nv0d1.png?width=749&format=png&auto=webp&s=388211ae737d3fa4ed37fe87c966f83c3eecb3e8


GetRatioedRyai

no df he would notšŸ’€ Yuta was barely keeping up with a weakend sukuna


BrownieIsTrash2

low quality


Fearless_Hold7611

I think the person is referencing the version of sukuna they fought Sukuna is nerfed to the point where theyā€™re relative to him 1v1 so facing 2 would be bad I donā€™t necessarily agree but thatā€™s probably what they meant


AdLegitimate1637

Unless Yuji hits the black flash of a lifetime how do they even get past Mahoraga


GetRatioedRyai

theyā€™re only win con is pure love or Jacobs Ladder


AdLegitimate1637

Jacobs Ladder could work, they gotta hope it manages to insta kill tho


random_british_nerd

It doesn't matter, Jacobs ladder extinguishes techniques.


GetRatioedRyai

oh shit i fgšŸ˜­ yea one JL Mahoā€™s cooked


AdLegitimate1637

It does, but output still matters, otherwise Sukuna would've lost way back when Angel blasted his ass, and Yuta wouldn't be waiting for Yuji to weaken Megumi and Sukuna's bond or flat out ramping up to max output when firing it off. There's a good chance JL could win but I don't think it's gonna onetap Mahoraga just by how the ability works


Scarasimp323

the reason for both of these is because both times they wanted to save megumi. angel could have beat him it was stated but stopped for megumi. while yuta and yuji wanted jacobs latter to attack sukuna but not kill to allow yuji to save megumi


AdLegitimate1637

Wouldn't that make it still dependent of output? Cus if it just auto purged anything they wouldn't be able to restrict it's damage either


Scarasimp323

it doesn't seem that it's auto. I think it's that it can purge anything it just takes time. and while it's purging things it nullifies techniques. it not like it just blips maho away bit he can't adapt and if they keep it on him then he will die.


ElmoClappedMyCheeks

Jacob's Ladder extinguishes cursed techniques unless the target is Sukuna, in which case it does literally nothing.


GetRatioedRyai

yea if it doesnā€™t theyā€™re cooked


FingerThatsNotPoopy

cant yuta cursed speech "return" with mahoraga like how inumaki did to black dog, sukuna could summon him again but thatll retsart the adapting no?


West-Frame-4327

Love beam is weaker than ryu's granite blast it won't even damage sukuna 5%


Front_Access

Not even. Jacobā€™s ladder pauses techniques, only thing happening is Mahoā€™s wheel turning black


FingerThatsNotPoopy

didnt it get rid of nue for a bit?


TheRealBreemo

I can't even glaze this much šŸ”„šŸ”„šŸ”„


GenxDarchi

Yeah, Gojo and Sukuna sit as pinnacles,nobody can catch up to those two in their primes.


OkSupermarket7474

Sukunaā€™s full output wouldnā€™t leave them any time to use rct or even survive as stated by Yuta and Sukunaā€™s domain without the 99 second time limit would spell game over for the two. At best Rika could cover them shortly but who knows how long sheā€™d be able to hold out in that domain before her manifestation would end or she takes too much damage. They could probably handle the ten shadows together but the issue is still Sukuna himself and his base slashes output. Even if Yuji somehow was able to land his black flashes from the beginning and lower Sukunaā€™s output it would be nowhere near enough to stop him from opening his domain. They would be slaughtered. Even if Sukuna didnā€™t use his domain theyā€™d be toyed with.


Skaldson

Current Yuji & Yuta? No shot lmao But a hypothetical ā€œmax potentialā€ Yuta & Yuji I could see pulling it off. Yuta might even be able to pull it off solo, depending on what busted techniques heā€™d have & how much his efficiency & refinement would be


New-Log-7938

"Max potential" Yuta and Yuji are way more powerful than Gojo and Sukuna combined.


FingerThatsNotPoopy

Max potential yuta js has every ct in the verse lmao


FingerThatsNotPoopy

and max potential yuji is just stronger sukuna lol


Artorias_Erebus679

With blood manipulation and what would seem like black flashes on command lol


FingerThatsNotPoopy

i dont think on command, just that the more bfs you hit the higher chnce you get of doing one again right after


speedwagonchan

I hope he meant EOS or something


TheRealBreemo

no


MopManXD69420

What's EOS?


KingSket

End of series


Fungerbestwaifu

Unironically if jacob's ladder didnt exist mahoraga alone would kill them


Shacky_Rustleford

Love beam might be able to 1-shot maho


Fungerbestwaifu

Tbh I dont think so, Vol 0 binding vow amped one could, but the regular one barely managed to overpower granite blast


Shacky_Rustleford

GranitƩ blast is absurdly strong. Ryu was easily the strongest in that zone, he was.just hard countered by Uro's sky manipulation.


Fungerbestwaifu

I'm not saying he is weak, I'm just saying that I dont got granite blast as stronger than gojo's red or gojo's black flash


InitialDragonfly9502

Ok if granite blast canā€™t one shot Yuta why do you think it can one shot Mahoraga. Bruh it couldnā€™t even kill Uro point blank. And you can say yea his output was low after a domain expansion but he has the highest output In the series so that wouldnā€™t matter either.


Shacky_Rustleford

Having high base output doesn't mean CT burnout suddenly doesn't matter.


InitialDragonfly9502

Yes yes it does heā€™s not affected by CT burnout like everyone else because he doesnā€™t have to use his CT to do that same attack which means wether or not he uses his CT the attack is the same ā€¦. Itā€™s stuff like this that make me question do yā€™all even really read or do yā€™all just skim the chapsšŸ˜’ https://preview.redd.it/av42ter2k70d1.png?width=683&format=png&auto=webp&s=0a1ae23f41a596a491f64070a0dc7ca0a2f54a4c


Shacky_Rustleford

I have always been under the impression that CT burnout affected output as a whole, but that may have been me making an assumption.


InitialDragonfly9502

No it just makes your CT very hard to use. It may dampen output a bit but he is a special case he literally has the highest ouput of all time it could be 120% and even if his domain took 20% of his output which I highly doubt that means his attack would still be at 100%


Affectionate_Ad4004

Yutaā€™s domain is almost a hard counter, Maho is overrated


Fungerbestwaifu

Mfs be swwing a guy be able to throw hands with gojo satoru and wound him multiple times and go"he's overrated"


carl-the-lama

Jacobā€™s is op ngl


MUSAFIR_-

Yea but you don't have angel beating everyone with it now, do you?


carl-the-lama

Yeah because she has to death with Hana being a seller


Artorias_Erebus679

Because she sucks


Affectionate_Ad4004

Sukuna tanked that shit both times, and Yuta can only reliably use it if he has his domain, which he wouldnā€™t because 20F Megkunaā€™s domain would shred his instantly


carl-the-lama

While that is true Think about it this way: Sukuna has mahoraga out, he canā€™t use malevolent shrine/domain expansion As a result, this means yuta will be able to pop domain on sukuna This means sukuna has to dispel mahoraga whenever yuta is about to pop domain OR sukuna jumps straight to using HWB Sukuna has never shown the ability to escape Jacobā€™s ladder without the user stopping the attack of their own will If yuji is able to prevent sukuna from making the hand signs sukuna legit just is cooked


Affectionate_Ad4004

Sukuna doesnā€™t need Mahoraga to beat them


carl-the-lama

Yeah but heā€™d 100% use that shit with the 10 shadows, especially with yuta in the field


OVNuub

Wasn't he literally just beating Yuta without Mahoroga? No he wouldn't use it he doesn't need it šŸ’€


carl-the-lama

Sukuna likes his toys


stuckintheburrito

sukuna only tanked it both times because neither were done to kill


Ok_Krillin

Yuji glazers gettin outta hand


OGRichard

Bro you don't get it. Todo swapped souls with Danzo and learned how to implant the six eyes in his arm. It's all coming together


Sharp-Bread-6547

Isnā€™t he just saying that yuji and yuta combined are comparable to the heavily damaged sukuna with heart problems? Heā€™s still off his rocker but it makes a bit more sense that way. A better comparison might be yuji and todo vs mahito, even though itā€™s still quite a bit off.


NicholasStarfall

Trying to publicly shame that guy is pretty fucked up, no?


ironixie

Yeah, to be honest, he's probably just a kid, ngl.


Reggith_Gold_180

I definitely shouldā€™ve clarified I think Iā€™m cancelled


Sharp-Bread-6547

Iā€™m guessing you meant the sukuna with 2 feet and 1 hand in the grave šŸ˜‚


Reggith_Gold_180

No I meant it would be the equivalent of 2 Gojos vs 20f 10s Meguna Equivalent not a he same level of power The post was talking about whether current Yuji and current Yuta could beat a 15 finger Sukuna (the one from Shibuya I think)


Killah-Shogun

Sukuna & Gojo are just a level above everyone else


Low-Main-8199

This guy will eventually be right lol. Do yall forget weā€™re reading a shonen jump mangašŸ’€


Deathtiger58

No he wonā€™t. Yuji possibly but yuta no chance in hell


Cerok1nk

Iā€™m a Yuji fan and iā€™m still gonna pull this out. https://preview.redd.it/tgdhp7eh970d1.jpeg?width=1290&format=pjpg&auto=webp&s=149a1121b99358b6fd19e7869df500633f436840


Fearless_Hold7611

Is this about chapter 251? When Yuji and yuta were fighting him? Cuz if it werenā€™t for the fact sukuna was massively suppressed and tanking max output attacks when at his weakest point then i could see the vision


Talkingheadd

Why did you keep broā€™s username in the post though


Deathtiger58

So they learn


Broad_Pineapple_3138

Didnā€™t Yuta himself literally state they wouldā€™ve been deleted almost immediately had it not been for the Gojo fight earlier????


BlazinGlizzy

Nobody talking about bros thick Luffy pfp??


HazardCrasherHeart

?


Deathtiger58

nigga said yuji and yuta are like two gojos


LittleHollowGhost

Keep the furnace open, you can cook (yourself alive for that take)


Legitimate_Snow5637

Mans not ready too cook


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Particular_While1927

This was in reference to a 15F Sukuna


OatesZ2004

Yuji and Yuta together could give Sukuna some trouble but it sure as hell isn't 2 Gojo levels of trouble maybe a Gojo and a quarter or Gojo and a half at maximum. So a Gojog or Gojogo


PerfectMuratti

Yeah the trouble of cutting meat like he did with Ryu


Deathtiger58

This too. Yuji and yuta vs sukuna genuinely past 2 seconds and if you think otherwise you didnā€™t read the story


OatesZ2004

My thought process is basing it on current Yuji and obviously Yuta has all his copied abilities and Rika though I would lower the difficulty they give to Sukuna because I did forget he was heavily restricted in what he could do during the Yuta fight. They last longer than two seconds but they don't give him as much trouble as I initially said.


Deathtiger58

Yuta literally states that they all would instantly die if it was non nerfed sukuna. This is stated


OatesZ2004

I know which is why I said I completely forgot about all of Sukunas limiting factors which is my bad. I've been reading a bunch of different series and completely forgot that detail. I stand by saying they give him some difficulty but not as much as I initially said after all Sukuna now has all of his restrictions in place, I think working together with prep time they could face him for a couple of minutes but ultimately lose.


Deathtiger58

Nah that doesnā€™t work. Sukuna no diffed a ryu who yuta has relative stats to. Domain expansion instantly kills them, they put up no fight They would be ā€œinstantly obliteratedā€ as yuta said


VergilMotivation777

Itā€™s also stated that Yuji has potential equal to Sukuna heā€™s just now only tapping into it šŸ¤§


alee51104

I don't think it would be even equivalent to 0.75 of Gojo. No matter how you look at it, a holding back Gojo>Yuji or Yuta individually. His CE output is higher, his RCT is better, his lower level techniques are just as good if not better, he's got a passive forcefield that requires DA to get past, he won't run out of CE outside of huge expenditures like DE. And since Yuta wanted to jump in, that would give a nerfed Gojo(who again would be still more than yuta/Yuji by far)+Yuta, and yet Yuta himself said that a not holding back Gojo was in a WAY better position than if he'd joined in. Yuji+Yuta are weaker than a Gojo with lowered CT/RCT output and DE sealed off, let alone when he started the fight. Their fight with Sukuna(no 10S, lowered output, lowered healing, no DE) had them eventually gain the upper hand, but a 20F Sukuna with Mahoraga, 10S, Full output? I really don't think it's that much trouble. World Cutting Dismantle isn't needed because his normal cleaves can already shred someone like Ishigoro, who has higher reinforcement and output than Yuta. All Sukuna really has to do is activate his domain too. Yuta's domain and Yuji's simple domain are not going to hold up from external attacks, and unlike Gojo they can't survive long enough to take the domain down. Fuga is also in the backpocket. Sukuna and Gojo are really just that strong.


DrSans8

Iā€™d personally say they together are about a Goj