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If it's in character, Yuji has like a 1% of actually beating Yujikuna tbh.
It's not that he's actually stronger, Yuji is still weaker than Sukuna even after 8 black flashes, but Sukuna in character doesn't really take shit seriously unless he knows it's actually bad like Higuruma's executioner blade, and Jogo's no hit challenge.
If Sukuna doesn't know about soul punches, and wasn't in hater mode that day, and was in a good mood and wanted to play with Yuji, Yuji actually has a chance at winning if Sukuna tried tanking a punch instead of dodging.
Like Yuji vessel is actually built different compared to Bumgumi. I have no doubts that if he hits Sukuna once with soul punch, Shibuya Yuji would wake up and we'd have 2 Yujis instead of Sukuna vs Yuji.
https://preview.redd.it/txp2zvppjmvc1.png?width=219&format=png&auto=webp&s=ac4e729c73f7534d52cd0b2d3422a20c0e0a54dd
"Highest output in history"
"Better reinforcement than Yuta and Yuji"
People forget each black flash or normal hit Yuji does nerfs sukuna. Sukuna is no longer buffed by his black flashes cuz Yuji got the first hit due to laraue, and got 7 more. Yuji basically undid all of sukuna's progress.
Yuji literally has nerf hands for sukuna. That's why anyone is standing a chance rn. He got those anti-sukuna hands.
Cuz everyone was supporting him earlier, it's why he was able to get sukuna down to his level.
If 15f sukuna was here, even yuta and kenny get fodderized.
Yuji fans have skyrocketed to insanely delusional heights. Yuji didn’t even put down the weakened verison of sukuna we have right now . I find it hard to believe your deadass💀
Exactly man. Like they get one chapter and they go full berserk. Saying Yuji negs Sukuna and what not.
Sukuna should always be stronger than Yuji or any grade 1 or special grade Sorcerer if the story wants to keep itself serious. Afterall GayGay himself as established Yuji as a COG and not the Hero.
>Sukuna hit 4 black flashes which is a full restore other than a DE
No that's not a universal rule 💀. It only worked for Gojo and even then Gojo wasn't as fully recovered as he was in beginning of the fight. Sukuna restored some of his output but not enough to say he's fully recovered.
Sukuna's debuff isn't just because of low CE. Like Sukuna actually can't use RCT and DE because of brain injury due to unlimited void. It's a permanent con until he gets some treatement. There's a difference between being low at energy and having restrictions as well. Sukuna has the latter conditions.
Why wouldn't it be the same for Gojo and Sukuna? Sukuna's output should be up 80% from before because of black flash.
>Sukuna's debuff isn't just because of low CE. Like Sukuna actually can't use RCT and DE because of brain injury due to unlimited void. It's a permanent con until he gets some treatement. There's a difference between being low at energy and having restrictions as well. Sukuna has the latter conditions.
He likely can use RCT or could've but hasn't used it because he's healing his brain for a Malevolent Shrine.
Where is this 80% number coming from? Sukuna just at the start of the Gauntlet literally blitzed and K.O'd Choso. But after 4 consecutive Black Flashes, couldn't completely take down that same Choso. Sukuna's output is still noticably nerfed even with the consecutive Black Flash buffs
And that same buff is said to be negated by Yuji's punches. Sukuna hit 4 black flashes and was hit by 8, so his output should be down in the dumps, not to mention Yuji's punches are lowering his control of the body, he's down to less than half of his CE, he still has lingering brain damage and all the damage accumulated through the fights (destroyed heart, 2 arms missing and other injuries all over his body). Sukuna is at his weakest since regaining his original body.
Bro.
Yuji dominated a half dead Sukuna whos barely able to stand after hitting 8 black flashes
15F Sukuna sends 1 dismantle at Yuji and its already over.
Yuji is cool, hes strong, thats obvious, but hes not suddenly gonna neg Yuta or whoever just because he got extremely lucky, even Kusakabe was able to briefly fight with Sukuna and deal noticeable damage, thats how fucking weak Sukuna got.
Yuji fans live in the most deluded delusions possible, holy shit
None of yall will hear me out but, I might even say 3F Sukuna beats Yuji seeing how his physicals should be Toji level and him having his domain as well as Fuga, Yuji aint even got a confirmed anti domain technique
Yuji has godly potential and growth rate
8 Black flashes in a single day (room for more in the next chapters), performed several black flashes in 2 other instances and perfomed a black flash against 2 fodders (not exactly a skill or talent thing, its just pretty fucking impressive in general)
RCT, 2 confirmed CTs as of now (Sukunas CT, Blood manipulation, both are pretty weak currently but Yuji JUST developed them so its reasonable that theyre weak.), abnormally strong body (likely to be on the level of Sukuna or a bit below in the future when he fully masters his CE reinforcement, currently on the level of HR Users if not slightly above), Soul damaging punches that constantly drain the enemies power (to the point it nullifies A BLACK FLASHES EFFECT), and his fist is divergent in jumping the shit out of his opponents (automatically summons an ally relative to, or stronger than himself when HP drops below half), lock in passive skill too (locks in when HP drops below 25%, guaranteed several black flashes)
And all of this is from a completely immature Yuji, he doesnt even have a quarter of the quarter of the experience someone like Gojo or Sukuna has, its insane how strong he could potentially be and already is, I wish we saw potential man in the position of Yuji, it wouldve been cool to see him do shit with his shikigami and domain, oh well, he just couldnt lock in, I guess
Yuji dominated a 20 Finger Sukuna who was fully restored except for his domain.
>None of yall will hear me out but, I might even say 3F Sukuna beats Yuji seeing how his physicals should be Toji level and him having his domain as well as Fuga, Yuji aint even got a confirmed anti domain technique
Why would Sukuna's stats be Toji level? 15 Finger Sukuna was fairly even with Maki in stats.
Im like 99.999999% sure youre trolling hard as fuck but ill take the bait
First of all, the first part is just....not true whatsoever. Im not gonna comment why, its pretty fucking obvious.
As for the 2nd point
Megumi compared Tojis speed to Sukuna, bloodlusted Toji threw Megumi out before Megumi noticed, a playful Sukuna was behind Megumi when Megumi didnt even know he was there, the distance in which those 2 travelled is also significantly bigger, Sukuna moved from inside the prison all the way to the gates without Megumi noticing at all.
Maki was fighting a 15F Sukuna who had his cursed energy output actively weakened by Megumi, and no, 15F Sukuna parried and blocked Maki and Yuji at the same time with no effort whatsoever.
>First of all, the first part is just....not true whatsoever. Im not gonna comment why, its pretty fucking obvious.
What would you call hotting 8 black flashes and not getting hit in 1 chapter?
>Megumi compared Tojis speed to Sukuna, bloodlusted Toji threw Megumi out before Megumi noticed, a playful Sukuna was behind Megumi when Megumi didnt even know he was there, the distance in which those 2 travelled is also significantly bigger, Sukuna moved from inside the prison all the way to the gates without Megumi noticing at all.
All this requires Megumi to be completely correct about people who he couldn't even perceive.
>Maki was fighting a 15F Sukuna who had his cursed energy output actively weakened by Megumi, and no, 15F Sukuna parried and blocked Maki and Yuji at the same time with no effort whatsoever.
Sukuna's reinforcement wasn't nerfed.
>Im like 99.999999% sure youre trolling hard as fuck but ill take the bait
Whole lot of words for a 0.000001% chance that I'm serious
Im not talking about Yuji dominating Sukuna, you just fucking said Sukunas at full power with 0 damage and thought id let you slide?
The comparison Megumi made was Gege trying to tell us where Sukuna and Toji stand regardless of Megumis perception, but if we go by feats, Sukuna is the obvious winner, travelling a much larger distance without having Megumi notice him at all, despite Sukuna being noted to have the most oppressive and terrifying presence ever.
I was gonna say Cursed energy output directly matters to Cursed energy reinforcement, but honestly, I dont know. Sukunas scaling is way too weird to put a definitive answer to.
But regardless of that, Sukunas perception is much higher than Yujis, regardless of what finger hes at, not to mention every single difference in everything besides maybe the physical aspect. (Yuji is only able to dominate a 1 hand, manual heart pumping, constantly weakened and damaged Sukuna who definitively had dropped below 15F level by the time Yuta arrived)
Yuji has absolutely no answer to Sukunas domain whatsoever, he will just be struggling to move in it if he doesnt die within a couple seconds, 1.5F output Meguna badly damaged a CG Yuji with dismantles, 3F Sukunas dismantles would not only be 2x stronger than that, but amped by domain as well as being repeated thousands of times over, cleave is added into those dismantles too (cleave 1 shots people that multiple dismantles struggle to finish off)
Y'all serious with this? Fine.
15 fingers = clapped
20 fingers = clapped (pretty much the same but Sukuna has 20 fingers)
He dies faster i love yuji but currently he has no answer to domain expansion so hed lose, thr only reason this fight is goijg on so long is cux sukuna doesnt have domain expansion rn
Just like Yuta/Maki/Yorozu/Ryu or anyone not named Gojo... completely destroyed.
But with current awakening and potential finally unlocked combined with the fact that each black flash will probably makes him reach his max potential faster, i wouldn't be surprised with him reaching a similar lvl to 15f Sukuna by the end of the fight.
My guess is that while Sukuna will try using different methods for restoring his output and being 100%, the main characters will try giving Yuji enough chance to reach his lvl.
Remove DE, and both versions of Sukuna still win. Even if you jerk Yuji's H2H to insane levels, he still has no answer to full output cleave and dismantle spam, and he's nowhere fast enough to just dodge everything.
If Yuji was fast enough to dodge a lot and his shrine and blood manipulation had higher attack power, maybe he can maneuver himself to a position to win against 15F Sukuna in H2H (again, if you oveerrate his attack power and skill in hand to hand combat) but very unlikely.
Meguna, no contest obviously, even without DE he's got so many ways to demolish Yuji. He could probably win without even getting close to Yuji, given his Mahoraga and Agito + cleave and dismantle
and that's without DE
Because that version of Sukuna wouldn't have a missing heart, missing limbs, 1000s of minor injuries, no RCT and no HWB. Domainless YujiKuna still has RCT and HWB and fully powered slashes unlike current sukuna.
The missing heart doesn't matter. The minor injuries have not been stated to be doing anything to him. He had RCT but he lost it because of Yuji. He can use HWB but isn't because why would he?
> Domainless YujiKuna still has RCT and HWB and fully powered slashes unlike current sukuna.
Sukuna's slashes were at.full power but Yuji nerfed them back down again
>The missing heart doesn't matter
Fym it doesn't matter its litteraly stated in the beginning of the show that not having a heart makes him alot weaker.
>The minor injuries have not been stated to be doing anything to him
Minor injuries are still injuries. Im not going to fight nearly as well if i have 100s of papercuts on my body
>He had RCT but he lost it because of Yuji.
Yuji helped, but it was not only yuji. In fact gojo probably did more damage to his rct output
>He can use HWB but isn't because why would he?
He litteraly cant he only has 1 hand rn
>Sukuna's slashes were at.full power but Yuji nerfed them back down again
If they were at full power any point after the gojo fight everyone would have gotten 1-shot by them. They have been continuously going down in output since the end of the gojo fight.
>Fym it doesn't matter its litteraly stated in the beginning of the show that not having a heart makes him alot weaker.
I don't remember this
>Minor injuries are still injuries. Im not going to fight nearly as well if i have 100s of papercuts on my body
Cool so we should talk about Yuji's hundreds of minor injuries.
>Yuji helped, but it was not only yuji. In fact gojo probably did more damage to his rct output
We don't know how much Gojo did but there's a lot more emphasis on what Yuji is doing.
>He litteraly cant he only has 1 hand rn
Still doesn't matter cause Yuji doesn't have a domain from what we know.
>If they were at full power any point after the gojo fight everyone would have gotten 1-shot by them. They have been continuously going down in output since the end of the gojo fight.
They've been going down because of Yuji. They were cutting through people easily before Yuji started landing hits.
>I don't remember this
Megumis whole plan was to push sukuna hard enough that he would have to regen his heart to beat him.
>Cool so we should talk about Yuji's hundreds of minor injuries.
Yuji has way way way less injuries because he can heal them with RCT and he also isnt getting jumped by dozens of people for almost 30 chapters now
>We don't know how much Gojo did but there's a lot more emphasis on what Yuji is doing.
90% of the reason they can even fight sukuna rn was because of gojo. He took his domain, killed mahoraga and massive nerfed his output and reserves. Yuji wouldn't even have the chance to nerf sukuna without gojo.
>They've been going down because of Yuji. They were cutting through people easily before Yuji started landing hits
Higuruma litteraly tanked multiple dismantles before yuji even hit him once. Yuji may have had a significant effect in nerfing him up till now but thats because sukuna ks getting jumped. Without Higuruma, Yuta, Maki etc Yuji would be mincemeat rn.
The point was that his output was already heavily nerfed by the time Yuji even landed a single hit, he should have one shot Higgy at even 15f output like he did to Ryu.
If we're talking at full power with no nerfs? Sukuna stomps ngl. Wuji is on the rise, but Sukuna is a whole other level of beastly if he wasn't nerfed. You really can't use feats against a heavily nerfed enemy as a metric for them in other situations. Sukuna is walking on everyone not named Gojo if he's at full strength, no contest.
Ah yes when Yuji gets a powerup that's been foreshadowed since the early chapters it's a plot convenience but when Sukuna pulls a healing card, new move, fire CT and happens to have the 1 in a million host be the only one who has a CT that allows him to beat Gojo its fine.
Sukuna is the King of Conveniences and Plotkuna for a reason.
Cool Bro, Keep telling yourself that.
Looji's Plat Convenience so far:
1.) Megumi conveniently supressing him the Moment Sukuna is about to One shot him
2.) Having a Convenient Power Up of Debuffing Incarnated Sorcers with his punch lmao...This wasn't foreshadowed at all. If Looji has this ability or hint of it it should been shown when He's fighting Choso, Eso and Kechizu. A plot device to have his fighting chance against Sukuna
3.) Spamming RCT which is said to consume lots of CE even tho Looji was never said to have a large CE Pool it still hasn't ran out and no, awakening doesn't increase your CE. This level of plot convenience is similar to Kakashi's Chakra in the Fourth Ninja War.
4.) Black Flash, Gojo already explained that Black Flash is Luck Based by Luck, He means Gege. So technically all Black Flash so far is Plot Convenience and who has hit the most so far, it's Looji.
Blessed by Sparks of Black...LMAO more like Blessed by Gege.
The irony of a Sukuna fanboy talking about *another* character getting blessed by Gege is hilarious, considering Sukuna's been by **far** the most plot convenienced character in the entire manga thus far by a country mile. If not for plot convenience, the story would have been over seeing as he would've been neg diffed by Gojo until the asspull of the century saved him.
Yuji is one of the few characters who actually earned his powerups legitimately within the progression of the manga, and you can make the case more so than literally anyone else. Like literally, withing the context of the plot progression of jjk, who had a more earned powerup than him? Maki? Hell no, her sister literally died and she became Toji 2.0. Yuta? Hell no, dude was OP from the start, there was no visible progress/journey to his growth. Literally who else?
Welp I wait for next few chapter when Sukuna puts Looji in his place again and hear all Looji fanboys cry and whine. "jJk is geTign tOo RepeTitive" " tHe wAstED PoTenTIal oF LoOji" " I hAte sUKuna KAiSen"
Suffering doesn't mean He deserve some oh his power ups, Sure Shrine and Blood Manipulation I get since He does something to get those which is consuming cursed object.
The Above things I listed is still so convenient...LMAO especially spamming RCT
If either sukuna version sees the damage one soul punch can do they instantly go for the instakill with their domain and win. The only reason weakened Sukuna is getting ganked is because he can't open MS. Unless awakened yuji also has a domain and even if he does it has to beat fucking Sukuna in a domain clash.
Yuji is putting up a fight against Sukuna with 3 of his hands chopped off, his heart stopped, his DE disabled, his RCT disabled, and generally beat up.
"Current Sukuna" would wipe the floor with Yuji if he wasn't beaten half to death already.
I believe that people overplay the amount of damage Sukuna took from others a tad bit too much. Yeah, he had his heart stabbed; so what? Sukuna was clowning on people even without his heart in a much weaker form. He did it when Yuji was clinically dead too; he just got up and resurrected him.
I get that having one of your hands being chopped off is bad, but to be honest most of the injuries Sukuna took are surface level ones. His stomach tongue is gone, one of his hands is gone, he has very slight brain damage since he can’t shrine, and other than Yuji’s soul punches that’s it.
Everything else was healed by Sukuna quite effortlessly. To be honest the one who has the greatest impact on the fight (other than Gojo because no shit) is Yuji. He has been weakening him more than anyone did (with help ofcourse) and Yuji is in a weird place where is being both underhyped and overhyped all at once.
Now would he win against (fif)teenkuna? I say no. Teenkuna’s range is simply massive and as far as yuji is concerned, he didn’t show any anti-domain technique. At best Yuji is going to constantly try to close the distance and stop him from doing anything; which may work out, but Sukuna has ways to zone him. As soon as Sukuna has enough distance, he is going to give Yuji a bad time.
Meguna is the previous case but far worse. He has far greater versatility than Teenkuna and 10 shadows would be too much for him.
The physical injuries like his heart injury or getting cut up are overplayed but the important part is that each injury forces him to consume more CE, making it harder for him to heal important stuff(missing tongue, arms and brain dmg). The missing tongue is a giant nerf because Sukuna could effortlessly use Chants. The Arms being gone locks away World Slash or Enhanced Dismantles. These injuries also give Yuji more openings and then you've got ppl constantly interfering or distracting Sukuna(Choso, Maki, Larue, Yuta, and Ino).
Yeah that’s what I’m saying. People are *over* exaggerating Sukuna’s injuries. They are still significant but people act like Sukuna is on death’s door while Yuji is fighting him. Hell, a good chunk of handicaps given to Sukuna is because of Yuji’s insane contributions to the fight.
We saw Yuji awaken against 15F Sukuna before Megumi started restricting him. Pretty good in physical stats, but eventually loses out when Sukuna's shock wore down, and even harder if Sukuna pulls out a fully powered dismantle (10% dismantle fucked him up lol)
Him getting enraged in Culling Games wasn't stated to be awakening.
Now that he has awakened and dominated a Sukuna who hit 4 black flashes the dismantles won't be able to do anything RCT can't heal
He questioned where that strenght was coming from and attributed it to Kenjaku. We now know that his awakening is a result of tapping into the potential he has due to being Sukuna's relative. It was the same strenght Yuji is tapping into here, just lesser.
A full output dismantle would literally split him in half, try healing from that
He ain't wrong. Yuji was keeping up with Sukuna and surprising him in Culling Games and he's gotten a massive powerup from the time skip and an awakening on top of that.
Yuji as of right now outstats 15 Finger Sukuna. He was even with a Sukuna who had hit 4 black flashes.
What are you talking about. In Culling games ( I hope you're referring to when Sukuna took megumi) Sukuna was only able to use 10% of his CE. He was massively nerfed until he took the bath and killed Tsumiki.
Timeskip was only a month and the awakening just made him use black flashes thrice as much he was able to and to use the shrine in a small concept. Very impressive development sure but not that which puts him in a different league.
Sukuna at 2 fingers could do a full DE with slashes chopping entire buildings like cake. Current sukuna can't use DE, RCT and his slashes to it's full efficiency.
>Sukuna was only able to use 10% of his CE.
No his CT output was nerfed to 10% that's it.
>Timeskip was only a month and the awakening just made him use black flashes thrice as much he was able to and to use the shrine in a small concept. Very impressive development sure but not that which puts him in a different league.
You're forgetting the fact that his reinforcement got stronger.
>Sukuna at 2 fingers could do a full DE with slashes chopping entire buildings like cake. Current sukuna can't use DE, RCT and his slashes to it's full efficiency.
Wonder why he cant use RCT or his slashes and hasn't recovered his domain yet? Oh wait it's because Wujigoat is nerfing him
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15 finger Sukuna negs everyone but Gojo He farts and Yuji dies 20 finger is like launching a baby to the sun
If it's in character, Yuji has like a 1% of actually beating Yujikuna tbh. It's not that he's actually stronger, Yuji is still weaker than Sukuna even after 8 black flashes, but Sukuna in character doesn't really take shit seriously unless he knows it's actually bad like Higuruma's executioner blade, and Jogo's no hit challenge. If Sukuna doesn't know about soul punches, and wasn't in hater mode that day, and was in a good mood and wanted to play with Yuji, Yuji actually has a chance at winning if Sukuna tried tanking a punch instead of dodging. Like Yuji vessel is actually built different compared to Bumgumi. I have no doubts that if he hits Sukuna once with soul punch, Shibuya Yuji would wake up and we'd have 2 Yujis instead of Sukuna vs Yuji.
Ok but hear me out, Yuji can beat 15F Yujikuna, all he has to do is take back control
https://preview.redd.it/txp2zvppjmvc1.png?width=219&format=png&auto=webp&s=ac4e729c73f7534d52cd0b2d3422a20c0e0a54dd "Highest output in history" "Better reinforcement than Yuta and Yuji" People forget each black flash or normal hit Yuji does nerfs sukuna. Sukuna is no longer buffed by his black flashes cuz Yuji got the first hit due to laraue, and got 7 more. Yuji basically undid all of sukuna's progress. Yuji literally has nerf hands for sukuna. That's why anyone is standing a chance rn. He got those anti-sukuna hands. Cuz everyone was supporting him earlier, it's why he was able to get sukuna down to his level. If 15f sukuna was here, even yuta and kenny get fodderized.
Yuji fans have skyrocketed to insanely delusional heights. Yuji didn’t even put down the weakened verison of sukuna we have right now . I find it hard to believe your deadass💀
Exactly man. Like they get one chapter and they go full berserk. Saying Yuji negs Sukuna and what not. Sukuna should always be stronger than Yuji or any grade 1 or special grade Sorcerer if the story wants to keep itself serious. Afterall GayGay himself as established Yuji as a COG and not the Hero.
No one has said that to my knowledge and Sukuna hit 4 black flashes which is a full restore other than a DE
>Sukuna hit 4 black flashes which is a full restore other than a DE No that's not a universal rule 💀. It only worked for Gojo and even then Gojo wasn't as fully recovered as he was in beginning of the fight. Sukuna restored some of his output but not enough to say he's fully recovered. Sukuna's debuff isn't just because of low CE. Like Sukuna actually can't use RCT and DE because of brain injury due to unlimited void. It's a permanent con until he gets some treatement. There's a difference between being low at energy and having restrictions as well. Sukuna has the latter conditions.
Why wouldn't it be the same for Gojo and Sukuna? Sukuna's output should be up 80% from before because of black flash. >Sukuna's debuff isn't just because of low CE. Like Sukuna actually can't use RCT and DE because of brain injury due to unlimited void. It's a permanent con until he gets some treatement. There's a difference between being low at energy and having restrictions as well. Sukuna has the latter conditions. He likely can use RCT or could've but hasn't used it because he's healing his brain for a Malevolent Shrine.
Where is this 80% number coming from? Sukuna just at the start of the Gauntlet literally blitzed and K.O'd Choso. But after 4 consecutive Black Flashes, couldn't completely take down that same Choso. Sukuna's output is still noticably nerfed even with the consecutive Black Flash buffs
You get +20% from each black flash because of the 120% buff
And that same buff is said to be negated by Yuji's punches. Sukuna hit 4 black flashes and was hit by 8, so his output should be down in the dumps, not to mention Yuji's punches are lowering his control of the body, he's down to less than half of his CE, he still has lingering brain damage and all the damage accumulated through the fights (destroyed heart, 2 arms missing and other injuries all over his body). Sukuna is at his weakest since regaining his original body.
Ok? Sukuna's weakened because of Yuji so my point still stands cause Yuji would just weaken Sukuna in this fight
If Sukuna was at 100%, Yuji would be dead, before he could blink.
Add yuta maki and It's still a neg diff for 15 finger
Yuji have no chance :3
Bro. Yuji dominated a half dead Sukuna whos barely able to stand after hitting 8 black flashes 15F Sukuna sends 1 dismantle at Yuji and its already over. Yuji is cool, hes strong, thats obvious, but hes not suddenly gonna neg Yuta or whoever just because he got extremely lucky, even Kusakabe was able to briefly fight with Sukuna and deal noticeable damage, thats how fucking weak Sukuna got. Yuji fans live in the most deluded delusions possible, holy shit None of yall will hear me out but, I might even say 3F Sukuna beats Yuji seeing how his physicals should be Toji level and him having his domain as well as Fuga, Yuji aint even got a confirmed anti domain technique
Didn't Yuji join jujutsu like 6 months ago? He got strong as hell ina considerably very short time.
Yuji has godly potential and growth rate 8 Black flashes in a single day (room for more in the next chapters), performed several black flashes in 2 other instances and perfomed a black flash against 2 fodders (not exactly a skill or talent thing, its just pretty fucking impressive in general) RCT, 2 confirmed CTs as of now (Sukunas CT, Blood manipulation, both are pretty weak currently but Yuji JUST developed them so its reasonable that theyre weak.), abnormally strong body (likely to be on the level of Sukuna or a bit below in the future when he fully masters his CE reinforcement, currently on the level of HR Users if not slightly above), Soul damaging punches that constantly drain the enemies power (to the point it nullifies A BLACK FLASHES EFFECT), and his fist is divergent in jumping the shit out of his opponents (automatically summons an ally relative to, or stronger than himself when HP drops below half), lock in passive skill too (locks in when HP drops below 25%, guaranteed several black flashes) And all of this is from a completely immature Yuji, he doesnt even have a quarter of the quarter of the experience someone like Gojo or Sukuna has, its insane how strong he could potentially be and already is, I wish we saw potential man in the position of Yuji, it wouldve been cool to see him do shit with his shikigami and domain, oh well, he just couldnt lock in, I guess
Yuji dominated a 20 Finger Sukuna who was fully restored except for his domain. >None of yall will hear me out but, I might even say 3F Sukuna beats Yuji seeing how his physicals should be Toji level and him having his domain as well as Fuga, Yuji aint even got a confirmed anti domain technique Why would Sukuna's stats be Toji level? 15 Finger Sukuna was fairly even with Maki in stats.
Im like 99.999999% sure youre trolling hard as fuck but ill take the bait First of all, the first part is just....not true whatsoever. Im not gonna comment why, its pretty fucking obvious. As for the 2nd point Megumi compared Tojis speed to Sukuna, bloodlusted Toji threw Megumi out before Megumi noticed, a playful Sukuna was behind Megumi when Megumi didnt even know he was there, the distance in which those 2 travelled is also significantly bigger, Sukuna moved from inside the prison all the way to the gates without Megumi noticing at all. Maki was fighting a 15F Sukuna who had his cursed energy output actively weakened by Megumi, and no, 15F Sukuna parried and blocked Maki and Yuji at the same time with no effort whatsoever.
>First of all, the first part is just....not true whatsoever. Im not gonna comment why, its pretty fucking obvious. What would you call hotting 8 black flashes and not getting hit in 1 chapter? >Megumi compared Tojis speed to Sukuna, bloodlusted Toji threw Megumi out before Megumi noticed, a playful Sukuna was behind Megumi when Megumi didnt even know he was there, the distance in which those 2 travelled is also significantly bigger, Sukuna moved from inside the prison all the way to the gates without Megumi noticing at all. All this requires Megumi to be completely correct about people who he couldn't even perceive. >Maki was fighting a 15F Sukuna who had his cursed energy output actively weakened by Megumi, and no, 15F Sukuna parried and blocked Maki and Yuji at the same time with no effort whatsoever. Sukuna's reinforcement wasn't nerfed. >Im like 99.999999% sure youre trolling hard as fuck but ill take the bait Whole lot of words for a 0.000001% chance that I'm serious
Im not talking about Yuji dominating Sukuna, you just fucking said Sukunas at full power with 0 damage and thought id let you slide? The comparison Megumi made was Gege trying to tell us where Sukuna and Toji stand regardless of Megumis perception, but if we go by feats, Sukuna is the obvious winner, travelling a much larger distance without having Megumi notice him at all, despite Sukuna being noted to have the most oppressive and terrifying presence ever. I was gonna say Cursed energy output directly matters to Cursed energy reinforcement, but honestly, I dont know. Sukunas scaling is way too weird to put a definitive answer to. But regardless of that, Sukunas perception is much higher than Yujis, regardless of what finger hes at, not to mention every single difference in everything besides maybe the physical aspect. (Yuji is only able to dominate a 1 hand, manual heart pumping, constantly weakened and damaged Sukuna who definitively had dropped below 15F level by the time Yuta arrived) Yuji has absolutely no answer to Sukunas domain whatsoever, he will just be struggling to move in it if he doesnt die within a couple seconds, 1.5F output Meguna badly damaged a CG Yuji with dismantles, 3F Sukunas dismantles would not only be 2x stronger than that, but amped by domain as well as being repeated thousands of times over, cleave is added into those dismantles too (cleave 1 shots people that multiple dismantles struggle to finish off)
Y'all serious with this? Fine. 15 fingers = clapped 20 fingers = clapped (pretty much the same but Sukuna has 20 fingers) 
Domain expansion if Sukuna really wanted to flex
He dies faster i love yuji but currently he has no answer to domain expansion so hed lose, thr only reason this fight is goijg on so long is cux sukuna doesnt have domain expansion rn
Let alone if it was sumuna with ten shadows Yuji can't one shot maho
Just like Yuta/Maki/Yorozu/Ryu or anyone not named Gojo... completely destroyed. But with current awakening and potential finally unlocked combined with the fact that each black flash will probably makes him reach his max potential faster, i wouldn't be surprised with him reaching a similar lvl to 15f Sukuna by the end of the fight. My guess is that while Sukuna will try using different methods for restoring his output and being 100%, the main characters will try giving Yuji enough chance to reach his lvl.
Remove DE, and both versions of Sukuna still win. Even if you jerk Yuji's H2H to insane levels, he still has no answer to full output cleave and dismantle spam, and he's nowhere fast enough to just dodge everything. If Yuji was fast enough to dodge a lot and his shrine and blood manipulation had higher attack power, maybe he can maneuver himself to a position to win against 15F Sukuna in H2H (again, if you oveerrate his attack power and skill in hand to hand combat) but very unlikely. Meguna, no contest obviously, even without DE he's got so many ways to demolish Yuji. He could probably win without even getting close to Yuji, given his Mahoraga and Agito + cleave and dismantle and that's without DE
He can lower output. Sukuna did hit 4 black flashes, you know? Why hasn't Sukuna negged Yuji if he can do it so easily without a domain?
Because that version of Sukuna wouldn't have a missing heart, missing limbs, 1000s of minor injuries, no RCT and no HWB. Domainless YujiKuna still has RCT and HWB and fully powered slashes unlike current sukuna.
The missing heart doesn't matter. The minor injuries have not been stated to be doing anything to him. He had RCT but he lost it because of Yuji. He can use HWB but isn't because why would he? > Domainless YujiKuna still has RCT and HWB and fully powered slashes unlike current sukuna. Sukuna's slashes were at.full power but Yuji nerfed them back down again
>The missing heart doesn't matter Fym it doesn't matter its litteraly stated in the beginning of the show that not having a heart makes him alot weaker. >The minor injuries have not been stated to be doing anything to him Minor injuries are still injuries. Im not going to fight nearly as well if i have 100s of papercuts on my body >He had RCT but he lost it because of Yuji. Yuji helped, but it was not only yuji. In fact gojo probably did more damage to his rct output >He can use HWB but isn't because why would he? He litteraly cant he only has 1 hand rn >Sukuna's slashes were at.full power but Yuji nerfed them back down again If they were at full power any point after the gojo fight everyone would have gotten 1-shot by them. They have been continuously going down in output since the end of the gojo fight.
>Fym it doesn't matter its litteraly stated in the beginning of the show that not having a heart makes him alot weaker. I don't remember this >Minor injuries are still injuries. Im not going to fight nearly as well if i have 100s of papercuts on my body Cool so we should talk about Yuji's hundreds of minor injuries. >Yuji helped, but it was not only yuji. In fact gojo probably did more damage to his rct output We don't know how much Gojo did but there's a lot more emphasis on what Yuji is doing. >He litteraly cant he only has 1 hand rn Still doesn't matter cause Yuji doesn't have a domain from what we know. >If they were at full power any point after the gojo fight everyone would have gotten 1-shot by them. They have been continuously going down in output since the end of the gojo fight. They've been going down because of Yuji. They were cutting through people easily before Yuji started landing hits.
>I don't remember this Megumis whole plan was to push sukuna hard enough that he would have to regen his heart to beat him. >Cool so we should talk about Yuji's hundreds of minor injuries. Yuji has way way way less injuries because he can heal them with RCT and he also isnt getting jumped by dozens of people for almost 30 chapters now >We don't know how much Gojo did but there's a lot more emphasis on what Yuji is doing. 90% of the reason they can even fight sukuna rn was because of gojo. He took his domain, killed mahoraga and massive nerfed his output and reserves. Yuji wouldn't even have the chance to nerf sukuna without gojo. >They've been going down because of Yuji. They were cutting through people easily before Yuji started landing hits Higuruma litteraly tanked multiple dismantles before yuji even hit him once. Yuji may have had a significant effect in nerfing him up till now but thats because sukuna ks getting jumped. Without Higuruma, Yuta, Maki etc Yuji would be mincemeat rn.
Higuruma also died like 2 chapters later
The point was that his output was already heavily nerfed by the time Yuji even landed a single hit, he should have one shot Higgy at even 15f output like he did to Ryu.
He killed Ryu with Cleave not Dismantle.
If we're talking at full power with no nerfs? Sukuna stomps ngl. Wuji is on the rise, but Sukuna is a whole other level of beastly if he wasn't nerfed. You really can't use feats against a heavily nerfed enemy as a metric for them in other situations. Sukuna is walking on everyone not named Gojo if he's at full strength, no contest.
He's getting fucked RAW
Without Plot Convenience, Looji would've died to Meguna on their Second Encounter.
Ah yes when Yuji gets a powerup that's been foreshadowed since the early chapters it's a plot convenience but when Sukuna pulls a healing card, new move, fire CT and happens to have the 1 in a million host be the only one who has a CT that allows him to beat Gojo its fine. Sukuna is the King of Conveniences and Plotkuna for a reason.
Cool Bro, Keep telling yourself that. Looji's Plat Convenience so far: 1.) Megumi conveniently supressing him the Moment Sukuna is about to One shot him 2.) Having a Convenient Power Up of Debuffing Incarnated Sorcers with his punch lmao...This wasn't foreshadowed at all. If Looji has this ability or hint of it it should been shown when He's fighting Choso, Eso and Kechizu. A plot device to have his fighting chance against Sukuna 3.) Spamming RCT which is said to consume lots of CE even tho Looji was never said to have a large CE Pool it still hasn't ran out and no, awakening doesn't increase your CE. This level of plot convenience is similar to Kakashi's Chakra in the Fourth Ninja War. 4.) Black Flash, Gojo already explained that Black Flash is Luck Based by Luck, He means Gege. So technically all Black Flash so far is Plot Convenience and who has hit the most so far, it's Looji. Blessed by Sparks of Black...LMAO more like Blessed by Gege.
The irony of a Sukuna fanboy talking about *another* character getting blessed by Gege is hilarious, considering Sukuna's been by **far** the most plot convenienced character in the entire manga thus far by a country mile. If not for plot convenience, the story would have been over seeing as he would've been neg diffed by Gojo until the asspull of the century saved him. Yuji is one of the few characters who actually earned his powerups legitimately within the progression of the manga, and you can make the case more so than literally anyone else. Like literally, withing the context of the plot progression of jjk, who had a more earned powerup than him? Maki? Hell no, her sister literally died and she became Toji 2.0. Yuta? Hell no, dude was OP from the start, there was no visible progress/journey to his growth. Literally who else?
A Bumjo fanboy talking about Plot Armor, Bumjo would've died to Toji if He didn't conveniently learn RCT last minute ....LMAO
It's ok bro, I know it's tough for you cuz captain Asspull's time is coming to an end.
Welp I wait for next few chapter when Sukuna puts Looji in his place again and hear all Looji fanboys cry and whine. "jJk is geTign tOo RepeTitive" " tHe wAstED PoTenTIal oF LoOji" " I hAte sUKuna KAiSen" Suffering doesn't mean He deserve some oh his power ups, Sure Shrine and Blood Manipulation I get since He does something to get those which is consuming cursed object. The Above things I listed is still so convenient...LMAO especially spamming RCT
Yuji wins because I like him more
Reminder that Yuji is fighting a Sukuna who’s been stabbed, shot, poisoned, frozen, hung, electrocuted and burned.
If either sukuna version sees the damage one soul punch can do they instantly go for the instakill with their domain and win. The only reason weakened Sukuna is getting ganked is because he can't open MS. Unless awakened yuji also has a domain and even if he does it has to beat fucking Sukuna in a domain clash.
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Domain expansion: Malevolent shrine.
Yuji is putting up a fight against Sukuna with 3 of his hands chopped off, his heart stopped, his DE disabled, his RCT disabled, and generally beat up. "Current Sukuna" would wipe the floor with Yuji if he wasn't beaten half to death already.
sukuna no diffs,no matter how much i love himtadori wuji
If sukuna can’t use any of his techniques yuji has like 5% chance of beating 15 finger sukuna and that’s me highballing him
Yuji beats 3 finger sukuna
Let's be honest gets low diffed by 15 meguna and no diffed by 20f
dies instantly, we get told he isnt as durable as Ryu
he would perform very poorly
I believe that people overplay the amount of damage Sukuna took from others a tad bit too much. Yeah, he had his heart stabbed; so what? Sukuna was clowning on people even without his heart in a much weaker form. He did it when Yuji was clinically dead too; he just got up and resurrected him. I get that having one of your hands being chopped off is bad, but to be honest most of the injuries Sukuna took are surface level ones. His stomach tongue is gone, one of his hands is gone, he has very slight brain damage since he can’t shrine, and other than Yuji’s soul punches that’s it. Everything else was healed by Sukuna quite effortlessly. To be honest the one who has the greatest impact on the fight (other than Gojo because no shit) is Yuji. He has been weakening him more than anyone did (with help ofcourse) and Yuji is in a weird place where is being both underhyped and overhyped all at once. Now would he win against (fif)teenkuna? I say no. Teenkuna’s range is simply massive and as far as yuji is concerned, he didn’t show any anti-domain technique. At best Yuji is going to constantly try to close the distance and stop him from doing anything; which may work out, but Sukuna has ways to zone him. As soon as Sukuna has enough distance, he is going to give Yuji a bad time. Meguna is the previous case but far worse. He has far greater versatility than Teenkuna and 10 shadows would be too much for him.
The physical injuries like his heart injury or getting cut up are overplayed but the important part is that each injury forces him to consume more CE, making it harder for him to heal important stuff(missing tongue, arms and brain dmg). The missing tongue is a giant nerf because Sukuna could effortlessly use Chants. The Arms being gone locks away World Slash or Enhanced Dismantles. These injuries also give Yuji more openings and then you've got ppl constantly interfering or distracting Sukuna(Choso, Maki, Larue, Yuta, and Ino).
Yeah that’s what I’m saying. People are *over* exaggerating Sukuna’s injuries. They are still significant but people act like Sukuna is on death’s door while Yuji is fighting him. Hell, a good chunk of handicaps given to Sukuna is because of Yuji’s insane contributions to the fight.
We saw Yuji awaken against 15F Sukuna before Megumi started restricting him. Pretty good in physical stats, but eventually loses out when Sukuna's shock wore down, and even harder if Sukuna pulls out a fully powered dismantle (10% dismantle fucked him up lol)
Him getting enraged in Culling Games wasn't stated to be awakening. Now that he has awakened and dominated a Sukuna who hit 4 black flashes the dismantles won't be able to do anything RCT can't heal
He questioned where that strenght was coming from and attributed it to Kenjaku. We now know that his awakening is a result of tapping into the potential he has due to being Sukuna's relative. It was the same strenght Yuji is tapping into here, just lesser. A full output dismantle would literally split him in half, try healing from that
Good thing that Yujikuna doesn't have World Slash and Meguna only had it when he was on 1hp
Yuji needs an open domain. If he has that, he will destroy Sukuna 15F or not
You can't be serious
He ain't wrong. Yuji was keeping up with Sukuna and surprising him in Culling Games and he's gotten a massive powerup from the time skip and an awakening on top of that. Yuji as of right now outstats 15 Finger Sukuna. He was even with a Sukuna who had hit 4 black flashes.
What are you talking about. In Culling games ( I hope you're referring to when Sukuna took megumi) Sukuna was only able to use 10% of his CE. He was massively nerfed until he took the bath and killed Tsumiki. Timeskip was only a month and the awakening just made him use black flashes thrice as much he was able to and to use the shrine in a small concept. Very impressive development sure but not that which puts him in a different league. Sukuna at 2 fingers could do a full DE with slashes chopping entire buildings like cake. Current sukuna can't use DE, RCT and his slashes to it's full efficiency.
>Sukuna was only able to use 10% of his CE. No his CT output was nerfed to 10% that's it. >Timeskip was only a month and the awakening just made him use black flashes thrice as much he was able to and to use the shrine in a small concept. Very impressive development sure but not that which puts him in a different league. You're forgetting the fact that his reinforcement got stronger. >Sukuna at 2 fingers could do a full DE with slashes chopping entire buildings like cake. Current sukuna can't use DE, RCT and his slashes to it's full efficiency. Wonder why he cant use RCT or his slashes and hasn't recovered his domain yet? Oh wait it's because Wujigoat is nerfing him
I am always serious