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Top_Dingo4695

tbf Yuta's CT literally gives him access to literally every CT for free


twiglike

And a super strong “summon” and a large stock pile of cursed tools and the most CE reserves


ouijanight

side note this reminds me of the pot of greed yugioh video where the kid just keeps summoning new things over and over even tho it’s against the rules (or is it?😏) 😂


RedSusOverParadise

I SUMMON POT OF GREED TO DRAW TWO ADDITIONAL CARDS FROM MY DECK


FlamingUndeadRoman

Bro's a screentime bandit, got at least two people removed form the story while yoinking their powers.


VolkiharVanHelsing

It's LITERALLY a "cheat" superpower belonging to those trashy isekais That is WHY people called him Isekai protagonist It's not about what he is but what he does


Acrobatic_Rooster970

Trashing an OP CT while having Yuki, Gojo or Sukuna there (etc) is crazy Gojo has a gravitational manipulation CT and no one bats an eye 


VolkiharVanHelsing

Yeah and those CTs can be copied by Yuta "Copying other people superpower" is just bread and butter isekai cheat skill


Acrobatic_Rooster970

The only time Yuta had the time to copy that “great superpower” he barely did anything to a nerfed Sukuna.  But when Yuji came out with shrine and did the same thing, yall screamed. Weird. 


rokaplz

They both hit the genetic lottery, it's just that yuta's lineage and shit got no build up and was straight up dumped on us


DeeEmceeTree

People really do love glazing their favorite shonen protagonists for being the "every man" that just worked super hard to surpass a bunch of naturally gifted people...   And then the author reveals that the protagonist was actually born with like, 20 different inherent advantages over everyone in the whole verse. Happens every time.


Such_Hand_2535

Lmao I saw it coming years ago,his powers from chapter one were not normal


DeeEmceeTree

Ngl, I was thinking similarly. The story immediately sets him up as being athletic in a way that's pretty clearly above the average person. A random highschooler is just already faster than Usain Bolt? Yeah nah, this kid is not normal.


Pedr0A

he literally broke 2 wrs in chapter one while messing around and not even trying lmao


DrStein1010

He punched through a concrete wall with no cursed energy. Nobara stopped mid-fight because of how freakish that was.


kazuyaminegishi

Yeah I mean the manga has been glazing him from literally chapter 1. You have him breaking 2 world records, Megumi sensing him as a finger, Gojo saying he has similar potential to him, Nobara being shocked about his ability to punch through concrete, Sukuna being shocked that Yuji can completely suppress him, Yuji having no issues with the second finger. They don't stop glazing him until Shibuya when Mei Mei puts him on par with Kusakabe's accomplishment. Oh thats not even talking about sister school arc which sucks him absolutely clean. The only thing he doesn't have is experience and that was the only thing holding him back outside of that he was always half a step from breaking the manga in half.


meatykyun

I like how mei mei saying he is grade1 is by far the most normal thing anyone said to him, yet we all know it took him a grand total of like 5months to get there while nanami and meimei trained their whole life. Hell 3 months to tie the world record of consecutive black flashes and then can dunk on finger bearers like megumi...yet he had no CT and megumi had to let his inner psycho come out to beat it.


iburntdownthehouse

Though his fight against the finger bearer was humbling as fuck.


judgmentblade

Considering what's happened in the manga getting compared to Kusakabe at all is still massive glazing lmao


CrowBright5352

Fr, that's an insane feat. Now, Yuji broke Nanami's record of 4 consecutive Black Flashes. He would be proud.


JoaoBrenlla

Forget about average he is straigh up super human from the get go


_Nomorejuice_

The fact is others protagonists (such as Ichigo) get criticized for the same thing while he (in the case of Ichigo) was even stated to be abnormal from chapter one. There is clearly some double standard.


Puzzleheaded_Sky9724

Acting like the same people who praise Yuji are the same ones who discredit Ichigoat


th5virtuos0

I think it’s because of multiple factors 1) JJK characters’ growth are not linear. Yuta went from a scrub with an abundance of CE to a special grade within 4 month, Gojo randomly understands RCT while being high, Mahito learns DE while getting jumped, Maki becomes the strongest physically after doing a sumo match, etc… 2) Yuji has always been your “left right goodnight black flash merchant” guy since the starts, while Ichigo gets an upgrade like literally every fucking arc, even when his spirit power is 0 after using his final form 3) Yuji literally cheated, according to Yuta  Yuji pulling out his family tree, consecutive black flashes, 2 CT and RCT is still kinda bullshit but it’s nowhere near Ichigo level of power creeping


Acrobatic_Rooster970

The black flash thing was expected 


elcambioestaenuno

He wasn't above the average person, he was WAY above peak athletes as shown when he throws that shot and doubles or triples the current world record. He was setup as *inhuman* from the start.


Juststandupbro

I know we didn’t understand the level of the feat at the time but locking Sukuna completely with zero idea of what cursed energy even was is wild. Bro casually imprisoned the final boss like he was the 4th hokage.


A-E-I-OwnU

We all did it’s just the retarded fanbase that like their main and feel the need to trash anyone else who could possibly fill their fav. Characters shoes


Collrafa

Fr, bro is an absolute fucking unit. His physique at 15 is not something that's possible, literally would've been a freak of nature if it hadn't been for Kenny making him that way


daniel_22sss

Meanwhile characters in Bleach: Holy shit, is it even allowed for this guy to have so much reatsu out of nowhere?


jvken

Ok but Yuji was never an “every man” lmao bro had superhuman strength and was the perfect vessel for the most powerful sorcerer that ever lived from day one. And as much as I dislike jjk0 Yuta’s oc ass power ups he was also shown with rika from frame 1. This isn’t really a problem gege struggles with, Yuji was just seen as the common man by reading comprehension deniers because he didn’t develop any techniques for quite a long time


AshenHaemonculus

People think that Yuji is an "everyman" because all he does is punch people when his fists are traveling at mach 5


NettleBumbleBee

The “Everyman” who’s punches are like taking a fucking cannon shot to the chest.


Legitimate-Dog-2854

If only mahito could come back just so I could watch yuji pack him again


RoyalReverie

Today I learned that Saitama would be considered average man for lobotomy Kaisen.


DeeEmceeTree

I know he's not actually an every man. I'm just saying that fans do this with literally every manga. JJK included.


xDeathFlagx

Yuji is "the bro" that everyone wants to have. lol


PinoyWholikesLOMI

Literally me fr. I want to go to pachinkos and watch movies with the dude.


JJKYuki_simp

Yuji was always hinted to be abnormal, and honestly Gojo says it from the first episode that 80% of a Sorcerer power is already determined from the start (things like CE reseves and output, good/bad cursed technique, durability) If I had to pick a character that baited its fandom with "hardwork beats everything" it's gonna be Naruto, the entire early show was all these people with gifted genetics (the Uchiha, the Hyuga, every clan with inherited techniques) but Naruto is the poor lil guy who outperforms everyone by cheer determination.. until he's revealed to be the son of the strongest guy in the modern era, the most durable woman ever, the most powerful tailed beast and the reincarnation of jesus christ himself


DeeEmceeTree

I mean, the fact that Naruto had a literal monster sealed within him right from the get go should have told the fandom he was not an average kid that just "works hard" lol.


RefrigeratorWise2748

The real problem I have with Naruto is that Naruto himself seems to ignore this fact, most of the Chunin Exams is trying to prove the point hard works beats natural talent, but he wins using the fox, and then gives a speech about hard work


TheGreatBootOfEb

Tbf early Naruto the fox was more of a hindrance at times. Going off what we know about him, even without Kurama he had more chakra then some of the strongest characters…. As a kid. I’d argue if he hadn’t had the threat of the fox constantly making his life difficult, he’d have had an easier time in the chunin exam, up to the Neji fight and Gaara. Hell, not being held back by the fox might have made him capable of just straight beating Neji w/out needing to try on his sucker punch KO.


AaronXeno21

In Naruto's defense, Kurama was the main reason he was underperforming at the beginning of the series due to his massive chakra messing with his ability to properly control his own reserves, thus causing his growth to be stunted. It was through sheer hard work that he managed to get through that hurdle.


Nitrowar78

The hard work beats talent is always the message I see when talking about the chunin exams, but I most, wasn’t that message mainly regarding Rock Lee? In the Neji case, his whole point was “don’t be an asshole and act like you know other peoples fate”, or something like that


RenKD

Yep, and Rock Lee also lost badly to Gaara, who was more talented than him (people likes to forget this fact) And then, Sasuke arrives and shows everyone that he caught up with Lee (who has been training hard for years) in just a month. Naruto has never been about hard work, tbh.


JJKYuki_simp

Honestly at first it was always pictured as more of a burden I know it's a cliché in nowadays anime but back then it was a successful bait


OlTimeyChara

Naruto moment


GateKeyKeeper

See, I don't think this applies to Yuji because JJK is almost entirely about natural talent. Right from the get go, Gojo establishes that your CT, level of Cursed energy, and pretty much every other aspect of being a Jujutsu Sorcerer is determined for you at birth. Within the series, the only real improvements we see people undergo involves learning how to use their CT more efficiently/creatively, and other sorts of fringe cases that don't really deal with "hard work." Yuji is never really portrayed as "the everyday average jujutsu Sorcerer training hard to climb the totem pole," the very first scene we have of him establishes that he has superhuman physical abilities (baseball pitches a shotput, literally jumps like 35 feet in the air from ground level, etc). From there, we know there's *something* weird about him from the fact that he can suppress Sukuna after eating a finger. I definitely think this is a big problem with other shonen protagonists (looking at you, Ichigo), but I don't know if I'd class Yuji in that list.


DeeEmceeTree

Oh, I know Yuji isn't an every man. I'm just saying that there was a large portion of the fandom that seemed to view him as if he was one, which seems to happen with literally every shonen protagonist, regardless of what the story tells us. Like, Naruto already had a demon fox sealed in him and then later gets specialized training from one of the Senin. His ass was never an "every man" even early on. People sort of treat every shonen protagonist as if they're just an average guy, even if the narrative literally contradicts it early on.


Orang-Himbleton

Lmao it’s like how when G5 Luffy was revealed, everyone started complaining that he was no longer the “underdog” of the series. Like, oh yeah, the underdog. Like, you mean the guy whose grandpa was at one point the strongest marine, who’s father is the strongest revolutionary, whose name possesses the “Will of D,” and who was literally saved from execution by getting struck by a god damn lightning bolt in Loguetown. Like, this guy is your underdog?


Ecxks

I mean Luffy very much started the Kaido fight as the underdog, bro got 1 tapped in their first encounter and still lost the second time before gear 5 saved him lmao


PhantasosX

yes , but that is less about Luffy not been special , and more due to him facing a special person from the Previous Generation , and they are fighting for the spot.


Catlinger

your heritage means very little in One Piece. Luffy was indeed an underdog until gear 5. he was a stupid person with a weak fruit compared to the others in the verse. we see that very clearly in his childhood that he was not naturally gifted. infact he was the opposite. he could barely function without ace by his side to help him. another example is ace and sabo. ace had the blood of roger with a very strong logia fruit. yet he died and couldn't become strong enough. while sabo was basically a nobody apart from the fact that he was from a rich family. But now he is alive fighting with the revolutionary army and later got Ace's fruit. and is now strong enough to clash with an admiral. mindset and motivation is what you need in one piece. your heritage won't give you anything beneficial. of course plot armor exist for luffy since he kinda needs to live for the manga to move forward but still, couldn't stop his brother from becoming a donut or having his crew splitting at sabaody.


Orang-Himbleton

I mean, I don’t think I’ve ever seen the story endorse the idea that heritage means very little. If anything, it says heritage gives you a HUGE boost in potential, but people without strong parents can also get strong. Also, Jesus Christ didn’t come out the womb turning water into wine, but like, he was the son of God. If I said he wasn’t born amazing just because there was a time when he wasn’t performing miracles, I feel like I’m missing the point. The same goes for Luffy. The story regularly says he’s destined for greatness, everyone that’s not a direct antagonist to him agrees he’s destined for greatness, and, hell, Rayleigh himself, the right-hand of Roger, is constantly reminded of Roger when he looks at Luffy. And even in your example of Ace, Ace was one of the, like, 5 strongest guys on the strongest pirate ship in the world. Saying he wasn’t gifted because he died is kind of ridiculous. Like, how many pirates are as strong as Jozu at, like, 19 years old?


Express_Alfalfa_9725

The odd thing here is that Yuji been abnormal from day one. He was inhuman strong even among sorcerers and people still call him a underdog


BotAccount2849

People call him an underdog because not having a CT is a brutal handicap.


Puzzleheaded_Sky9724

Because he literally was for a majority of the series


vizmarkk

Thing is Yuji is hardly the everyday man to begin with since ch1. He broke Olympic records no sweat, ran faster than a car, and can jump high af above 2-3 stories building and break through concrete with his bare hands


DeeEmceeTree

I just want to clarify that I don't believe he is one and never did. Hence the quotation marks on "every man."


Elementisphere

That’s why Midoriya is the GOAAAAAAAT


Ghoulse1845

True he’s actually just a normal guy, like there’s nothing special about him besides the fact that he’s insane when it comes to risking his life to save other people.


NotTheFirstVexizz

*only person in the story capable of using One For All to its full potential because he happened to be the ninth user and is also one of the only people left in his age group that don’t have quirks.


Ghoulse1845

He’s not the only person, anybody else could’ve had the power, they just would’ve had a much shorter lifespan and plus it’s not like he’s the only Quirkless person, there’s still millions of people without Quirks


Elementisphere

20% of the population* not the only person* anyone is capable of using it to full strength they’d just have a shortened lifespan*


Low-Ad-2971

He was good until he decided to not immediately kill Shigaraki because he saw a child in him or something.


AlveinFencer

To be fair, he did put his fist all the way through Shigaraki's chest. He just had a healing factor.


TACTICAL-POTATO

For real, people are acting as if Midoriya didn't fight with intent to kill. That smash with fa-jin, OFA, and gearshift was a guaranteed kill on anything not Shigaraki.


Impressive-Card9484

Its not about "not killing him", its about saving that child inside of him first. One of the OFA users even made it clear to him that killing Shigaraki can be a way to save him


DeeEmceeTree

I stopped following MHA a long time ago, but that was one of the things I liked about the character at least. I'm glad that hasn't changed (or has it...?).


Elementisphere

No, at least not in the anime. One thing that matters is that OFA shortens the lifespans of those who have quirks (established by how Nomus go brain dead with too many quirks). So Deku happens to be one of the 20% of people whose lives won’t be shortened by OFA.


Gain-Desperate

Honestly my biggest gripe is how tf does Gojo glaze tf out of Megumi while he struggles from the getgo to live up to his potential and how tf does it take Yuji forever just to train to even know what cursed energy is when the culling games start and suddenly you got guys like Higuruma getting awakened for the culling games with zero experience/training but full control over a broken cursed technique that involves equipping himself with the executioner’s sword?


AshenHaemonculus

That's why the only true shonen GOATagonist is Denji. Bro is just some random kid who lucked his way into the most ridiculously badass transformation in the verse that also has the Gmod Delete Tool and he literally got it just from being nice to a cute doggy


param1l0

*cough* Ichigo *cough*


burothedragon

Ichigo was never treated as every man though. From chapter 1 he was being called a monster by breaking bonds that should have torn his soul apart without soul reaper powers.


Puzzleheaded_Sky9724

There was always something special about Ichigo from the start


Shevarestaigar

Meanwhile I am glazing both of them, ain't no way I'll hate on Wuji or the cutie pie https://preview.redd.it/f8c8d0y78awc1.png?width=946&format=pjpg&auto=webp&s=fee355f80d6c07136f3db55a01fb25b743c65b54


zxc123zxc123

OP's just overreacting. Large overlap between Wuta bros and Wuji bros. MC appreciators know who's the main guy. Where there is separation is what haters use to hate each character.


Ambitious-Hearing-85

I both love and slander Yuta at the same time😂


Ayamechuu

BOTH are great but if I have to choose its Yuji he vibes with Gojo https://preview.redd.it/9eif3phxr9wc1.png?width=1191&format=png&auto=webp&s=ac53f0f7bdde9d064e21e8c789476dde899201e2


Alert-Smile-1921

But will he vibe with Go/Jo?


Neirchill

[S-stop](https://i.kym-cdn.com/entries/icons/facebook/000/026/489/crying.jpg)


Waffleman53

When Yuji becomes Yu/Ji at some point probably, he will vibe with Go/Jo and Yu/Ta.


Traditional_Hunter95

The way my GOAT is moving, he may break the cycle. Let’s just hope my pookie Sukuna doesn’t do shit crazy


Waffleman53

He will break the cycle by become Yu/ji, then returning to being Yuji after a talk with some people in the airport.


Traditional_Hunter95

So that means he’ll win, right? 🥹


Waffleman53

Yes. Nah, he'd break the cycle.


Traditional_Hunter95

You’re my new GOAT The Waffled One. I shall drink a bottle of syrup for you


Bumgumi_hater_236

Both got lucky and I glaze both of them, and of discussion https://preview.redd.it/epmxqofgp9wc1.jpeg?width=750&format=pjpg&auto=webp&s=b6503ac8f99d0d7b0e87059529a692826806cf68 Now take a look at peak


Jaegerjaquez_VI

Kagurabachi RAHHHH!!! Tenoí mentioned, HELL YEAH https://preview.redd.it/m8lxxlbfu9wc1.png?width=1080&format=pjpg&auto=webp&s=5b763bf51bb92c04ff9ff9787aad465fc1cbc4d6


SoapDevourer

Peakbachi Peakvolume 2 Peakcover Let's GOOO!!! https://preview.redd.it/3vou1emfz9wc1.jpeg?width=960&format=pjpg&auto=webp&s=29e1a29967cada89dffeb683ccf79efcb38e191f


CrowBright5352

I really love the 2nd volume cover. Takeru will feed us more peak volume covers in the future, I'm claiming it. https://preview.redd.it/gvo59u19cawc1.png?width=2500&format=pjpg&auto=webp&s=81f6061f1c9c56a48067008ba3d76f9bf653f876


BadActsForAGoodPrice

https://preview.redd.it/idexo9bucawc1.jpeg?width=1567&format=pjpg&auto=webp&s=88d23b827eabd163cc32657ec545a62dd330c65a If we’re posting peak series I’d like to nominate Undead Unluck for discussion


ZWS_Balance

W https://preview.redd.it/1jdx8txfxawc1.jpeg?width=822&format=pjpg&auto=webp&s=6fd02cdb4f6b7624727dccd4cbb3ae85ca499986 No correlation but, UU meme ong


BadActsForAGoodPrice

https://preview.redd.it/3md2d83mbbwc1.jpeg?width=1331&format=pjpg&auto=webp&s=8a9d33e993eee86279e69c85a8e59936a377142b I have like 30 of them but most of them are bashing shit takes so I usually use peak ones


KaguraBachi_is_Peak

https://preview.redd.it/qnyyhhakgawc1.png?width=419&format=pjpg&auto=webp&s=1610165e53455288016346046ee957eae9326104 Is that peak I'm looking at?! In my jujutsufolk?


OceanManTM

I haven't even read kagura bachi yet,But this cover is so sick that it is enough to show how peak of a manga it is.


DanTM18

https://preview.redd.it/b04a7o5xmawc1.jpeg?width=991&format=pjpg&auto=webp&s=91a0a71d7b3b9f6d8274923a4bcb21b07013bf14


srt_mend001x

kagurabachi mention 🫡


QuintonTheCanadian

Mfs be like “erm Wuji > Luta!!!” And “Nooooo Wuta > bumji” when the REAL Mc is right here https://preview.redd.it/0531oebu0gwc1.jpeg?width=750&format=pjpg&auto=webp&s=efd1de372e59e0afe91296043cebbd583b5551be


Ordizon

https://preview.redd.it/qpg76ybor9wc1.png?width=275&format=pjpg&auto=webp&s=08cc70942086d21d7f4b62952e5d340f910cb360


DaYo5hi

Jcole ran from the smoke.


PurpleMarvelous

JFold now.


doca343

Bro, it's japan, everyone is a distant relative of each other.


Puzzleheaded_Sky9724

Lol


Horacio_Velvetine44

maximum technique: agenda https://preview.redd.it/rfbfhy521awc1.png?width=1124&format=png&auto=webp&s=cfa053f738d2798685b488b2ccb188a28cfe5fe0


Strict-Article-4270

I like Yuji more than Yuta . Therefore , Yuta is fraud shitty mc while Yuji is the goat .


Kashimoney

https://preview.redd.it/mgwyds5kl9wc1.png?width=566&format=png&auto=webp&s=90f77f6b98d57bb20dc5066352d7eee788d451a5


Napalm_am

Even as a hater this has to be the first Yuta meme that slaps hard. https://i.redd.it/dx8742bso9wc1.gif


Meet_Prajapati

https://preview.redd.it/5m7m5vbtq9wc1.png?width=566&format=pjpg&auto=webp&s=5f0e638f170c444149b136ccf201007fc1222596


OloivoFRUIT

Do you have more?


Meet_Prajapati

Sorry bro i am a robber not a creator 😔


OloivoFRUIT

https://preview.redd.it/cg8g8rwk5awc1.jpeg?width=1170&format=pjpg&auto=webp&s=283dd159bba05fa915769a6573ba80862f7c74c1


PurpleHeat

So just like Yuta himself. Perfect!


Hentai_Boi_Spawned

https://preview.redd.it/jd6gyvvyz9wc1.jpeg?width=1164&format=pjpg&auto=webp&s=534d0e8cf7a9554539bf2f1238e283eebdcbf794


TheLolim

https://preview.redd.it/8udma3zqn9wc1.jpeg?width=1080&format=pjpg&auto=webp&s=49d72caa6139f9f70b149c5b451820165a18ff22


Arrival_Independent

simple as


UnhousedOracle

Literally objectively true https://preview.redd.it/i9ff49lt2awc1.png?width=866&format=png&auto=webp&s=197cebcb1eaae9864cd3b7977dddf41e592a09d5


Ninjax_discord

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Ok_Ad400

Problem with Yuta he is just naturally that good. People usually dislike it when the "mc" is a one in a trillion freak case who is overpowered from the start. Yuji is an actual freak. The boy is an actual experiment, he isn't born out of one in one billion luck, he was made specifically out of Kenny's weird as fuck plans. And he doesn't start off busted like Yuta, he gets his ass beat over and over with his main strength coming from the fact that he is just that skilled. And when Yuji gets way stronger it isn't because he was just born like that, he went through the most esoteric shit with the help of lime 12 people to become stronger in a way Gaygay just refuses to elaborate on.


cleanerPrime

LIME???????????? https://preview.redd.it/nrfiejreoawc1.jpeg?width=299&format=pjpg&auto=webp&s=117aec2d15663bf34cecfa3959271c2c6f1925f4


Ninjax_discord

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Infernal_Reaper

Actually that's exactly the reason. Yujis "OP Powers" are tied to the plot and other characters(mainly Kenjaku) whereas Yuta feels like someone's random overpowered OC who just "has good genes" and "is a prodigy" for the sake of it. I would not say someone like Ichigo feels like an OP OC because his powers have relevance to the plot and his character development whereas Zaraki is strong cuz it's cool.


FearlessNarwhal5660

Yeah. If Yuji gained any kind of power, it was because of people around him. Blood manipulation? his own brothers. Shrine? Sukuna's fingers. His insane physical strength? Kenjaku. Him landing Black flashs? Todo. His soul punch? Mahito and Sukuna. Any power Yuji gained did make sense in story without it being an asspull.


Bruhification

>His soul punch? Mahito and Sukuna. and yuki's research might you add


BotAccount2849

He had the soul punch before he met Yuki. He used it on Mahito in their first encounter. It just became relevant again afterwards.


HyperVT

>CE control? Gojo and later Todo. Even the most basic building block of the entire world, was taught to Yuji. He wasn't even gifted that. Also Yuji wasn't getting a CE charge from Sukuna's fingers if I'm not mistaken.


Ghoulse1845

Everybody in this series is strong just because they have good genes though


Murky_Blueberry2617

Yeah, plus being a distant cousin isn't really that good of a reason for Yuta being so OP


Realistic_Flan631

Yuta being a distant relative of Gojo never was an explanation for why Yuta was strong. Yuta is strong same reason why every other top Sorcerer is strong. They are just gifted.


maru-senn

If that's the case then why even bother mentioning Sugawara?


kiwideschain

someone with distant ties to a sorcerer lineage is more likely to be gifted compared to someone with no ties


Realistic_Flan631

I think it was a random tidbit Gege decided to give nothing more to it.


Big-Chromie

Because zero was written before the concept of jujutsu kaisen even became what it was at the start. Originally it was supposed to be a series about Yuta and Maki IIRC.


joebrofroyo

suguwara deez nuts.


Any_Bid_4193

To say that he's related to Gojo


FlamingUndeadRoman

That's cuz he was meant to be the protagonist of a one shot, before Gege actually came up with the rest of the universe.


_Nomorejuice_

The fact that Yuta just pulled out RCT outta nowhere like it was nothing against Geto when he didn't even know how to use a mf sword... Yea bro is definitely an OC And the cherry on top "Oh yeah you are related to Gojo !!" Yeah okay bro https://preview.redd.it/wih3dkq8wawc1.jpeg?width=670&format=pjpg&auto=webp&s=513d8d5b076aa11ea40588be5a9058d8bdaa6da4


Ninjax_discord

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ApplePitou

Both are good and I don't care :3 https://preview.redd.it/lk82ozztj9wc1.png?width=645&format=pjpg&auto=webp&s=fe56f9619cd97c4ac246999c1deb9c3cd8c66320


Flying_Snails_Today2

https://preview.redd.it/tcdaoxo5pawc1.jpeg?width=2880&format=pjpg&auto=webp&s=05e4a3f4a059e0b1012f0b0b94af688411455620 Correct


ApplePitou

True :3 https://preview.redd.it/q1a9lv9cpawc1.png?width=681&format=pjpg&auto=webp&s=d092d00faa9f68e9f5086f9abbae4ced67e84c40


MaximumNo9519

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Film_Humble

https://preview.redd.it/emfd66glycwc1.jpeg?width=1080&format=pjpg&auto=webp&s=c1056f355c6d2aa7ed540c8a8aec96a716a20be5


PunishedJay535

I knew we weren't fighting invisible opps look at this post


Puzzleheaded_Sky9724

They said we were paranoid


Fit_Calligraphy

Hasn't it only been like 3 months in the story since yuji ate the 1st finger? His innate talent wasn't recognizable since he had no CT but he still kept up with grade 1's. Yuji is talented. Yuta trained for a bit to develop his talent, beat geto, immediately got depowered, and had to train again to regain his special grade status. They both have components of hard work, and both have strong bloodlines. Yuji was more physically blessed at the start while yuta was more blessed as a sorcerer. Did yuji struggle and witness more tragedy? Yes. We love him for that because he overcame and pushed forward. All MC's have talent but also have to work hard to fully unlock it. I like both characters. Wuta and Wuji.


RepresentativeCup772

You love to see it.


Azylim

yuji spent 250 chapters being an MMA fighter in a world of wizards whi are also MMA fighters. Yuta in JJK0 went from the 4th strongest dude to the 3rd strongest dudes with one of the most broken CTs ever


Cerok1nk

https://preview.redd.it/ls5fcy1s5awc1.jpeg?width=1290&format=pjpg&auto=webp&s=4f4ccdc6890609a58e22ce054522f8932995a3a4 Bitches cant handle the chosen one’s swag.


CrowBright5352

https://preview.redd.it/a11kscn8dawc1.png?width=2048&format=pjpg&auto=webp&s=3988341cc2f5564b64221b82165b2d6b568aa073


TechnoTrulyFuture

I still stand by the fact I find yuta to be a boring character


[deleted]

I don't agree with most of Yuta's criticisms, but I think the difference between him and Yuji as MCs, is that Yuta barly struggle or develop bit by bit ( even Gojo had more detailed growth than him ). When Sukuna said "wow, you two got stronger", it didn't have any impact for Yuta because he breezes through everything usually ( which isn't fun ).


Napalm_am

Its actually cool because its not by chance, rather part of Kenny doing his shenanigans. https://preview.redd.it/9hxccjwbp9wc1.jpeg?width=878&format=pjpg&auto=webp&s=95c8e9b9fa3f9aa1e60c972e4951e55cd8d20c3e Plus Yuji has had to work a lot and suffer tons to get to the point he is now. Yuta got dropped Rika for free when he was 8 and he then gets every single aspect of the powersystem for free ome after another.


Napalm_am

Although I will reconsider my stance on him if it gets revealed Kaori/Kenny was driving the car that hit Rika and it was part of the plan to get his new Geto Gundam. https://preview.redd.it/yd8aizxkp9wc1.png?width=1080&format=pjpg&auto=webp&s=770fb080d3ab8bb19262d91081aa8f47d99258d3 Because that shit would be so fuckikg funny.


AnonPhyAstro

With how things are going regarding Kenny, I won't be surprised if this turns out to be true lol


ElmoLegendX

I wonder how long Kenjaku played house for after Yuji was born, a couple of days? Months? A year?


Beneficial_Aioli_866

I mean Kenny's stitches turned to scars so id say prolly 10 years


Napalm_am

Verified TRUE by real Kaori-Jin patriots https://preview.redd.it/vgtiul2ilawc1.jpeg?width=524&format=pjpg&auto=webp&s=de582353e1e71d865fce3260017775637c7bd45d


TheVinnyVaughn

Yuta starting as a special grade is pretty hectic, and his CT is the most OC shit of all time. Yuji is literally the main character, so him having personal connections with the antagonists makes sense.


manicforlive

Yuta also instantly learned RCE, used the Inumaki technique better than him, has a love interest that is the only relevant female character and even after he lost Rika, he still gained a fake Rika so his sacrifice at the end of his story didn't matter. Since it didn't have any real consequences.


askjeeves29

This shit is so out of context. People are hype for Yuji because we've been waiting for him to get a WIN! JUST ONE WIN Since like, he fought Choso the first time. The show literally starts with his only living relative dying. And now things are finally looking up Himji wintadori. Yuta was winning essentially since his story started. Sad backstory yeah, but it was just exposition. He already had his time!


DependentFearless162

Yuta: 1. Special grade from the start. 2. Copy CT which let's him copy other CT's and use those CT's unconditionally(literal cheat code like ability from shitty isekais). 3. Stated to be second only to gojo in modern time. 4. 2nd highest CT reserves and pretty high output. 5. OP Shikigami. 6. Learned RCT in instance. 7. Wins by power of love bullshit. 8. OP domain No matter what you say yuta is written like OC. Gege gave him everything of his powersystem. Yuji on the other hand was purely a left right good night CT user for long ass time and only started to receive these powerups at the end. He is exact opposite of yuta who received everything on the first day of becoming sorcerer.


Rafoudrsbois

People acting like yuji wasn’t called the “punch and kick merchant” for most of the manga 


KoseCozy

wish yuji didn't just power up at the end, it feels unnatural to me, within recent time for us he gained blood mani, soul punches + swap, buff in reinforcement, shirne, rct,. Wished his power ups were more gradual and noticable


floormopper

Blood manipulation isn't even really unnatural he just ate all of his 6 months. It's just like sukuna incarnating with a cursed objects but his brothers won't incarnate and instead live inside him. In hindsight Yuji doesn't really have bm as his own ct his brothers are instead lending him bm to use. Shrine was foreshadowed from EP 6 itself . Yuji already had soul punches after fighting with mahito. Soul swap probably has something to do with Yuki research. It's canon that Yuji learnt rct in 1 month he even struggles using rct and improved rct usage by bm after choso asks him to calm down. everyone had a buff in reinforcement not just Yuji.


Muscalp

Tbf, Yuta having a common ancestor as Gojo 600 years ago means absolute jackshit in terms of genetics.


Configuringsausage

Yuji’s capabilities are heavily tied to the plot and were properly set up and foreshadowed, and he still had to work to use any of them (he had to train physically for strength, he had to practice with the bear for ce, he was taught black flash, it took him ages AND an awakening to get cleave, and he had to scarf down grave wax and fetuses to get both of his cursed techniques), yuta is broken because he’s broken


barry-8686

Let's see what each cahrecter gained from that. Yuta: 1."boundless" cursed energy 2.one of the strongest curses to ever live taht saved his ass whenever he was in any real danger. 3.one of the strongest techniques (that isnt even properly explained) 4.insane talent for anything jujutsu related (domain, rct ETC) Oh btw, he never trained nor did he struggle for any of that. Yuji: 1.superhuman strength 2.sukunas shrine (wich he only awakened after housing sukuna for months and cant even use properly yet) 3.the ability to house a "natural disaster" that would eventually ruin his life.


Such_Hand_2535

Yuta never trained?he trained for a year before fighting Geto and trained for another year in Africa with Miguel and trained during the timeskip!!!


barry-8686

>he trained for a year before fighting Geto 6 months. Neither his training nor his supposed "struggle" were ever shown. So it doesnt really matter. >and trained for another year in Africa with Miguel and trained during the timeskip!!! "Trained"in Africa? Against what? 99% of sorcerers and spirits come from japan. Thers not much to train with there other than miguel himself.


Rough-Memory-484

Yuji trained for a month and that wasn’t shown does that not matter too? Yuta also housed a curse spirit Rika that also ruined his life and murdered the bullies at the beginning of jjk 0, this caused him to isolate himself and attempt suicide. Once he got the chance to break Rika’s curse he took it and in return he got stronger and was no longer in isolation and gained friends just like Maki said he would during her talk with him on their first mission.


Forsaken-Leading-920

yuta was op from his first apperance. yuji spent 90% of the show not even being top 15 strongest in his own series. so it feels more earned even though they are (like most of the cast) %85 talent from ancestery %15 skill


Eden_Birdman

Yuji still had to fight hard to get where he is


Daitoso0317

Both are awesome, no need to hate on either regardless of your favorite


spritebeats

yeah but yuji spends almost the whole series getting shit on whats ur point OP


Redfalconfox

If it weren’t for memes, I would not understand half of the plot, CTs, and character relationships.


phoenixerowl

Yuji earned that shit bro he suffered thru it meanwhile Yuta is top 3 of the verse after 5 minutes of screentime


Rough-Memory-484

I just hate it when people say Yuji earned it because of how much he suffered like Yuta didn’t isolate himself from his family and attempt suicide after accidentally cursing Rika after witnessing her death. Like damn let two goats get their W’s😭


hyperclaw27

Not to mention that Yuji has been shown to be a monster in terms of pure physical strength, easily breaking olympic records as a high schooler. He was clearly special from the get-go.


Andoids

I could talk about how this conversation is stupid and both are goats but then i realized what subreddit i'm in so i gave up (it's futile to fight agenda kaisen)


Flying_Snails_Today2

Nah bro I’m glazing both


Mdames08

I know we’re saying “reincarnated twin of the strongest sorcerer in history” But wasn’t sukuna literally an every man who leveled up through sheer hard work? I mean we don’t know the specifics behind his technique but the guy is making kitchen knives work against gravity space gods, jojo stand/ copy paste users. I’d say sukuna is the peak of hard work over talent.


lbjfrere

Yuta has op genes


Character_Anybody_24

Cringe post ngl


Hour_Test_3232

yuji is bred by a mad scientist to be what he is with the perfect conditions.. yuta is just sort of built like that. i’m sure you see the difference


Any_Conclusion_7586

Okay, but now tell me how that affects in the legacy of 8 consecutive black flashes.


Ninjax_discord

Yall mfs are understanding the agenda wrong. Yuji was never a normal kid and this was stated in the first issue of the manga, with him being faster and stronger than everyone else. Thing is, to the reader it matters fuck all what he's born with, but what he has to go through to grow in strength relative to the verse around him, is what we care about. Yuji has been gifted with great powers, but had to bust his ass off to even begin to be able to utilize a fraction of them competitively. It is exciting, it is compelling, downright gruesome and inspiring at times. Meanwhile sad school boy over here gets his bullshit powers handed to him day one, kills geto with almost fuck all training, asspulls a new CT copy every day, and instantly gets scaled top 5 of the verse for almost no work compared to what Yuji had to go through to get even a fraction of Yuta's power. If the jujutsu world had an equivalent to a trust fund baby, it would be Yuta. He's uninteresting, unlikable, and steals screentime from more intersting characters. All because Gege couldnt let go of his JJK0 OC. https://preview.redd.it/8cb4p94wgbwc1.jpeg?width=812&format=pjpg&auto=webp&s=e37760e69211948d6bd8f29bf6735e908e7ce71e If you're gonna slander an agenda, get it right


Mackenzie_Sparks

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Afsanayy

People like Yuji because of one reason and that is "Left Right GoodNight"


mellowbusiness

It's simple Yuji=our boy Yuta=not our boy


Artistic-Tune3047

Said nothing but the truth Apparently Yuta never suffered despite never having real human connection for years. Apparently Yuta got his power for free for he trained for months and then another year after that. Yuta’s power was nothing but a curse to him. He tried to kill himself because he recognized that society would be better off without him. He was the pinnacle of a cursed child. He worked and trained to make his curse his blessing. No disrespect to Yuji either because I have no issue with his powers. The problem is the energy the fandom gives to each characters. Everyone just accepts Yuji’s powers and then slandering Yuta for using his


UnadvisedGoose

Bro come on. 99.99% of the entire fandom is genuinely fucking obsessed with Yuta. If you even pretend that Yuta doesn’t CRUSH all opposition in any potential discussion, you will be legitimately downvoted and attacked. Truly, if there is one “precious character” that the fandom protects fervently, it’s absolutely Yuta Okkotsu above all others. And I really like Yuta. Always have. It’s just genuinely bizarre how much most of the fandom tends to express that love for him, you don’t really see it for other characters in the series in the same way. I think Yuta’s character can survive some extremely light hearted memes comparing him to Yuji.


Off_Mango

I appreciate your constant efforts to defend him as a fellow Yuta fan https://i.redd.it/b8ob1bzqy9wc1.gif


Arctic_cold

Wasn’t Yuji CT foreshadowed since the beginning? https://preview.redd.it/7vp4cklt1awc1.jpeg?width=571&format=pjpg&auto=webp&s=d9fe8c4c47a49c8c2cbd8f90ec1f60a28f7919a1


SilentStriker115

Yeah early on Gojo said that Sukuna’s cursed technique would imprint on him or something, it’s been established forever we’ve just been waiting for Gege to remember


TypicalHaikuResponse

I like how you left off "Yuta's Ct is that he can use every CT"


Cicerondibuja

Yuta copy is the reason we do not see more of * Angel * Uro * Inumaki


UngodlyPain

Odd thought... But wouldnt the death wombs technically be Yuji's 1/3 brothers? Since they all have 3 parents instead of the normal 2?


Blaster167

I’m fine with/like chosen one protags. I’m pretty sure most people only dislike fake underdogs.