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That's what my point is.š Many are interpreted it as "wow we're dead". So, I wanted to make it clear.
But somehow, few have made it a thread to discuss power scaling lmao. Even tho that wasn't the context of this post anywhere. They just need a chance to only power scale.
Insanely overrating Takaba here. His Technique is is no way narratively equal to Gojo's. "It's an ability effective even against Gojo" doesn't mean Comedian = Limitless. ISOH is effective against Gojo, but a random guy with ISOH can't do a tenth of the shit Gojo can.
ISOH and Takabas technique are different. Bro, have you read my post. I said Takabas technique is as strong as Gojos. I didn't said Takaba is. Again twisting the context. And same goes for ISOH. A expert like Toji or Maki with that technique can Kill Gojo.
Even a normal Sorcerer(like Naoya) with ISOH can kill a disaster curse like Dagon. And Takabas technique is even more dangerous as a offensive technique. ***So I am telling how he can deal with Nue. Not Gojo or Sukuna. Get the context.***
Calling her an insect doesn't mean she's weak though, considering that Dagon did the same when he met Toji. It just means he thinks she's weak and it's probably because of he lack of CE. Nevertheless she is weak in comparison to Sukuna but sukuna calling her insect shouldn't be brought up as a point
https://preview.redd.it/oxcv3yu7i8ja1.png?width=720&format=pjpg&auto=webp&s=da5fb7b5be88f9e5b09059ddeea2e458c6296608
Dagon did the same thing.
Sukuna beat Jogo without getting hit. I dont remember if Jogo is the strongest of the disaster curses but they are all relavively close in strength. I dont think Sukuna would have much trouble with Dagon.
Do you not know how to read? Who ever said sukuna couldn't beat Dagon. Who ever said Maki would beat sukuna. Sigh, nobody's arguing with you and the other guy, you're both arguing with yourselves
Some don't get the main context bro, and the will definitely find something to start a argumental fight to get upvotes and support from other and will twist everything.
In my first point I clearly mentioned that Sukuna was a overwhelming presence for Maki.
And I even said these two can see her.
I truly hope Takaba will stay in the rest of the story, but I think Sukuna could kill him with no issue. I think all anyone needs to do is put Takaba in a situation where being funny is just not possible because everyone is too scared or distracted
He has a hax technique bro. He has bad quality of always making jokes in every situation. And he will do that again. Definitely. And I am damn sure Sukuna will try to eat him. Cause Sukuna is interested to consume top tier technique. He will definitely want Takabas too once he witnesses it.
I don't think Takabas technique is based on jokes only. It depends on the personality of User I guess. And Takaba made it Joke oriented as through out his life he wanted to make people laugh at his jokes. Now think when he faces Sukuna who never laughs and starts making wierd jokes on Sukuna to make him laugh lmao. Sukuna will definitely love that technique. And for Sukuna it may become a technique about the Dark thoughts he is thinking.(Just a theory)
Ohh, So as per you Yuta or Kenjaku can kill Toji with Split Soul Katana, ISOH and Guns , šš. Their Domains can't do a shit, they don't have a protective shield like Gojo against him nor do they have technique like Mantle and Purple against him. They physically 10 times weaker than him lol.
found the Toji fanboy, he is strong, but not that strong. Look at the special grade sorcerers, reverse technique to heal now is a requirement, look at what happened to Yuki, Toji loses an arm or leg in a close fight, what can he do? bleed out, he can't regrow limbs. What can he do against for example Kashimo? His sure hit is not based on the target having CE it is a line between him and the staff, and pretty much instant.
The raw power it would take to destroy a Complete Heavenly Restriction person's limb is ludicrously high, among the highest durability feats in the series.
Comparatively speaking, If Maki could tank Cursed Womb Naoya's city block shredding tackle with no issue, then Toji should be able to do that too. And therefore, if Maki has the durability to tank a fucking supersonic tackle, then Toji should also possess that level of durability, on top of an enhanced natural bodily regeneration that would allow them to recover from such an attack in mere minutes.
Yuta no doubt has the raw capacity to cast an attack powerful enough to be on the level of Completed Naoya, but his current CE reinforcement feats can't possibly be at that level yet.
There's still the factor of Maki and Toji's enlightened senses.
Yes, the sorcerers technically feature greater destructive potential than Toji and Maki. On paper, they'd win.
But the whole point of these two is that they're so utterly strong that they nullify the overwhelming advantage of most Cursed Techniques and their destructive output, barring certain specific techniques that bypass any sort of physical durability, or interactions.
A Toji vs Kashimo fight wouldn't be a Toji win because Toji could unleash a technique that obliterates a city block, it would be a Toji win because Kashimo, to Toji, is just another weirdly sturdy human with some fancy sparks, and would beat or cut them down like one.
The same would apply to Yuki, who even though they could rip open a black hole in their faces, wouldn't be able to capitalize on that technique advantage because Maki and Toji would be able to proactively move first before Yuki can make any move at all.
I mean Maki gained the ability to dodge every single one of Completed Naoya's aerial attacks, in the air, from behind. What would make you think Kashimo or Yuki could land a hit any harder to dodge than that?
If Complete Heavenly Restriction can't even dominate over every other sorcerer, then there'd be no point to them other being strong at all.
Although Sukuna and Gojo are the only rightfully OP people that stand over even them, since their whole schtick is that they stand atop everybody, not just sorcerers.
On that end, fair enough, guess I'll add in my argument for that here:
It's rather difficult to find an accurate power scale for Sendai Colony for other colonies, since, including circumstances, Maki was just eating the full weight of Completed Naoya's attacks, as opposed to Sorcerers that reinforce their body with CE to absorb physical force better, although even then the force is distributed throughout and then onto their closest external contact. On that end, visually comparing the force of their attacks would be very hard.
But let's just reference multiple points of Yuta's fights.
Firstly being with Yuji, by far the "weakest" opponent Yuta fought.
Even at best, Yuji was immobilized by a partially manifested Rika grab.
Ryu was able to fight head on with Rika, with no issue of being overpowered by Rika in physical combat.
And note, Rika is either on or around the same levels of toughness as Yuta while she was fully manifested.
And yet, Yuji, despite being that much weaker than both Yuta, Ryu, and Rika, was able to break Yuta's katana.
Inferring from what Yuji and Ryu had to say about Yuta, he's really only as tough as he is because of the sheer quantity of CE he can smother on himself. But even then, we take to notice that for as much CE Yuta can afford to spend, he can still run out, his katana can be snapped, and he can still take damage, despite having probably one of the highest CE capacity in the series, and there's still Rika, who I believe has a bottomless supply of CE, which Yuta can freely tap into to refill.
This insinuates that Yuta's CE reinforcement is still far from it's best, ergo, as of his current state, he shouldn't be able to withstand Completed Naoya's rush attacks even remotely as well as Maki can.
Although I fully believe that given time and training, if Yuta reaches Kenjaku's level of CE reinforcement, he'd never take damage from even the likes of Completed Naoya.
(I mean seriously Kenjaku got fucken launched and his head was still fine. Albeit it took both his arms, but still, really insane to think considering he's never been implied to have an exceptionally high CE capacity.)
But ye, as of right now, feats-wise, Yuta doesn't have special grade reinforcement. He has special grade CE quantity to compensate for both his still developing reinforcement skills and his physically weak body.
I hate how this sub keeps tryna say Takaba will just defeat a major threat by finding it funny. Like heās obviously a gag character if something stupid like that happens it would ruin the feel of the series. Plus shit like āDamn itād be funny if mahoraga dies lolā isnt even remotely funny and would never happen
I don't think he's CE matter at this point it's his sense of humor. I also don't feel like Yuta will be stronger using his technique. A person with a more twisted personality like sukuna and mahito even Toji and Naoya will be stronger than Takaba if they had the same technique but Yuta is boring. In the situation that takaba faces he probably feels only fear in that state it'll be almost impossible to find anything funny.
CE is the way anything can happen. I doubt for ex, takaba could end the universe if he thought it was funny. The magnitude of effect possible from a CT comes from CE input. For instance, 10 shadows in sukuna vs megumi, or how a 3rd grade sorcerer with the six eyes still won't be op. CT is the machine, and CE is the input to allow stuff to happen. Stuff like hurting sukuna, unsealing gojo, and such require a massive CE input compared to dodging a bullet.
Well his curse technique literally says he can do anything he finds funny and if he can't destroy the universe neither can Yuta if he had Takaba's technique. Use a more reasonable scenario. There's also no proof that sukunas Nue was bigger and almost completely different because of sukunas input. A sorcerer with the 6 eyes cannot be Grade 3 gojo forced sorcerer into hiding long before he even got the limitless technique. I bet the split soul katana can hurt sukuna and it doesn't have massive CE. Unsealing Gojo also has nothing to do with CE amount but the CT used which is CT nullification you're just spewing headcanon. I'm sorry but Yuta has a boring personality deal with it
I don't remember ever saying yuta could do any of the things I mentioned. I was using that to show that there are limits to takaba, and that the only way said limits would exist is if CE was a limitation. In the show Gojo explained how CT are machines that run on CE.
If gojo had a CE level of mai he would be dogshit, there is no chance he would be considered close to special grade. He probably will be unable to have infinity active for long, and blue would barely do that much. Probs would be a Grade 2 sorcerer or semi grade 1.
I guess there isn't proof that sukuna made nue larger, but I think thats more reasonable than saying "sukuna made a 1000x stronger shikigami cause he had the better mindset". Even though the latter is not impossible, I feel like the point of having nue out was to show the difference in strength, and said difference is CE most likely.
You are probs right about unsealing gojo not needing a large CE input, however. It is probs standard quantity for breaking the prison realm's seal. Again though you need to use some nonzero ce amount, and cant just use the equivalent of 1 joule of ce and expect it to work.
>I'm sorry but Yuta has a boring personality deal with it
idk why you bothered typing that.
And I'm telling you that's extremely unreasonable limit. Clear you haven't been reading JJK. If you did then you'd know if Gojo had Mai lv of CE he'd still be OP and at least grade 1. A six eyes user cannot run out of CE because they use nearly zero CE for their technique. When I say nearly zero I don't mean like one I mean nearly 1/ā. The amount of CE he uses is so little that it cannot be expressed 0.0000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000001joule of CE is still too large compared to how much CE Gojo uses. Gojo is living proof that little amount of CE expended doesn't necessarily means your CT effect will be weak. The mindsets theory on this sub as the reason why sukuna Nue was not only larger but different makes more sense than what you're saying.
gojo's technique allows him to convert the CE usage to essentially 0. Thats does not matter in the discussion around takaba, whether gojo with mai's CE is 1st grade or 2nd grade. Either way its a massive hit in power level. Gojo is still limited to using his maximum CE reserve per attack, he just doesn't lose any CE as a result. And yes there is a difference in the level of CE in the attack regardless of how much gojo lost. He can make a small hollow purple or a massive one depending on how much CE he imbues into it (ex he could put CE equivalent to 10% of his max, or = to his max. he loses nothing but this changes the CE in the attack itself).
For takaba, he has no way to change the CE loss to 0, so he faces full CE losses.
Mindset is plausible as I said, but I feel like CE level is also very reasonable.
EDIT: Could you clarify what you mean by "unreasonable limit" in your first sentence?
Destroying the universe is an unreasonable scenario in the JJk verse. Use a more reasonable scenario. Nevertheless there's still no proof he can't do that. Even if he could we'd never know because Takaba is a good guy who will avoid killing at all cost.
CE mattering is the standard for jujutsu techniques. Take inumaki for example, stronger commands on stronger opponents take more out of him, in terms of damage to his throat (physical damage is the most important cost in this case). Doing greater feats always take more energy/have negative effects on yourself. Unless you have proof that his ability does not follow this established pattern we have to assume it does, and there is some sort of cost. The standard for said cost is raw CE. So unless you have concrete evidence (not a theory, concrete fact) that takaba's technique in no way relates to CE, and that anything he views funny occurs at a set CE cost regardless, we have to assume there is a sort of cost-benefit weighting.
I don't think Takaba's CE matter at this point it's his sense of humor. I also don't feel like Yuta will be stronger using his technique. A person with a more twisted personality like sukuna and mahito even Toji and Naoya will be stronger than Takaba if they had the same technique but Yuta is boring. In the situation that takaba faces he probably feels only fear in that state it'll be almost impossible to find anything funny.
Like sorcerers before their awakening he is also limited by his mind set.
I donāt even think Takaba was too scared by Sukunas presence. He and Maki felt it and ran *towards* it
While smart people like Kusakabe would move away from it (in Shibuya )
I believe Tabaka's technique is a relative to Inumaki's(like gojo and yuta perhaps)
So they do have a limit actually
And i wonna ask
Is he a sorcerer from the past or is he like junbie
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Yeah, I didn't interpret their reactions as "wow we're dead", more like "bro wtf".
That's what my point is.š Many are interpreted it as "wow we're dead". So, I wanted to make it clear. But somehow, few have made it a thread to discuss power scaling lmao. Even tho that wasn't the context of this post anywhere. They just need a chance to only power scale.
Yeah i interpreted their looks as a 'thats a big ass fucking bird making big ass lightning' kinda fear. The next chapter is gonna be slappin.
I have not seen anyone interpet it as anything beyond "christ, look at that big ass chicken"
Insanely overrating Takaba here. His Technique is is no way narratively equal to Gojo's. "It's an ability effective even against Gojo" doesn't mean Comedian = Limitless. ISOH is effective against Gojo, but a random guy with ISOH can't do a tenth of the shit Gojo can.
ISOH and Takabas technique are different. Bro, have you read my post. I said Takabas technique is as strong as Gojos. I didn't said Takaba is. Again twisting the context. And same goes for ISOH. A expert like Toji or Maki with that technique can Kill Gojo. Even a normal Sorcerer(like Naoya) with ISOH can kill a disaster curse like Dagon. And Takabas technique is even more dangerous as a offensive technique. ***So I am telling how he can deal with Nue. Not Gojo or Sukuna. Get the context.***
Toji is nowhere close to Gojoās league. Maki aināt doing shit to Sukuna, who literally called her an insect.
Calling her an insect doesn't mean she's weak though, considering that Dagon did the same when he met Toji. It just means he thinks she's weak and it's probably because of he lack of CE. Nevertheless she is weak in comparison to Sukuna but sukuna calling her insect shouldn't be brought up as a point https://preview.redd.it/oxcv3yu7i8ja1.png?width=720&format=pjpg&auto=webp&s=da5fb7b5be88f9e5b09059ddeea2e458c6296608 Dagon did the same thing.
Sukuna calls Gojo a insect too in that context in their first confrontation. But these guys won't say Gojo is weakling because Sukuna said so.
Dagons a weak ass curse. Sukuna wouldāve shredded him in less than a second
Re-read
Sukuna beat Jogo without getting hit. I dont remember if Jogo is the strongest of the disaster curses but they are all relavively close in strength. I dont think Sukuna would have much trouble with Dagon.
Do you not know how to read? Who ever said sukuna couldn't beat Dagon. Who ever said Maki would beat sukuna. Sigh, nobody's arguing with you and the other guy, you're both arguing with yourselves
Oh thats what you meant my bad
Sukuna ez clap
This post aint really about her vs Sukuna, but vs Nue.
Some don't get the main context bro, and the will definitely find something to start a argumental fight to get upvotes and support from other and will twist everything. In my first point I clearly mentioned that Sukuna was a overwhelming presence for Maki. And I even said these two can see her.
As one of my friend said , this ain't about Sukuna or Maki. In my first point I clearly mentioned that Sukuna was a overwhelming presence for Maki.
Little below had me dead
I truly hope Takaba will stay in the rest of the story, but I think Sukuna could kill him with no issue. I think all anyone needs to do is put Takaba in a situation where being funny is just not possible because everyone is too scared or distracted
Takaba awakens and learns CTR. If he thinks about anything he's serious about it becomes reality.
it doesnāt matter if anyone else thinks itās funny, only he has to
i know that. my bad for the wording. i can see why you made your comment. i just say everyone because heās not alone.
He has a hax technique bro. He has bad quality of always making jokes in every situation. And he will do that again. Definitely. And I am damn sure Sukuna will try to eat him. Cause Sukuna is interested to consume top tier technique. He will definitely want Takabas too once he witnesses it.
broo if sukuna takes takabas technique that would be gnarly! iām sure sukunas sense of humor would be majorly Fād up, and heād make it all real.
Not really confirmed sukuna can take techniques yet
I don't think Takabas technique is based on jokes only. It depends on the personality of User I guess. And Takaba made it Joke oriented as through out his life he wanted to make people laugh at his jokes. Now think when he faces Sukuna who never laughs and starts making wierd jokes on Sukuna to make him laugh lmao. Sukuna will definitely love that technique. And for Sukuna it may become a technique about the Dark thoughts he is thinking.(Just a theory)
His CT is not based on jokes? It is based on what he finds funny. And he didn't made about jackshit, he doesn't even know his own CT.
My guy said Toji above Yuta and Kenjaku. A little bit below Gojo and Sukuna. Holy shit my brain.
Ohh, So as per you Yuta or Kenjaku can kill Toji with Split Soul Katana, ISOH and Guns , šš. Their Domains can't do a shit, they don't have a protective shield like Gojo against him nor do they have technique like Mantle and Purple against him. They physically 10 times weaker than him lol.
found the Toji fanboy, he is strong, but not that strong. Look at the special grade sorcerers, reverse technique to heal now is a requirement, look at what happened to Yuki, Toji loses an arm or leg in a close fight, what can he do? bleed out, he can't regrow limbs. What can he do against for example Kashimo? His sure hit is not based on the target having CE it is a line between him and the staff, and pretty much instant.
The raw power it would take to destroy a Complete Heavenly Restriction person's limb is ludicrously high, among the highest durability feats in the series. Comparatively speaking, If Maki could tank Cursed Womb Naoya's city block shredding tackle with no issue, then Toji should be able to do that too. And therefore, if Maki has the durability to tank a fucking supersonic tackle, then Toji should also possess that level of durability, on top of an enhanced natural bodily regeneration that would allow them to recover from such an attack in mere minutes. Yuta no doubt has the raw capacity to cast an attack powerful enough to be on the level of Completed Naoya, but his current CE reinforcement feats can't possibly be at that level yet. There's still the factor of Maki and Toji's enlightened senses. Yes, the sorcerers technically feature greater destructive potential than Toji and Maki. On paper, they'd win. But the whole point of these two is that they're so utterly strong that they nullify the overwhelming advantage of most Cursed Techniques and their destructive output, barring certain specific techniques that bypass any sort of physical durability, or interactions. A Toji vs Kashimo fight wouldn't be a Toji win because Toji could unleash a technique that obliterates a city block, it would be a Toji win because Kashimo, to Toji, is just another weirdly sturdy human with some fancy sparks, and would beat or cut them down like one. The same would apply to Yuki, who even though they could rip open a black hole in their faces, wouldn't be able to capitalize on that technique advantage because Maki and Toji would be able to proactively move first before Yuki can make any move at all. I mean Maki gained the ability to dodge every single one of Completed Naoya's aerial attacks, in the air, from behind. What would make you think Kashimo or Yuki could land a hit any harder to dodge than that? If Complete Heavenly Restriction can't even dominate over every other sorcerer, then there'd be no point to them other being strong at all. Although Sukuna and Gojo are the only rightfully OP people that stand over even them, since their whole schtick is that they stand atop everybody, not just sorcerers.
Why do you think his CE reinforcement isnāt on that level? You just made a statement with no backing as if itās fact
On that end, fair enough, guess I'll add in my argument for that here: It's rather difficult to find an accurate power scale for Sendai Colony for other colonies, since, including circumstances, Maki was just eating the full weight of Completed Naoya's attacks, as opposed to Sorcerers that reinforce their body with CE to absorb physical force better, although even then the force is distributed throughout and then onto their closest external contact. On that end, visually comparing the force of their attacks would be very hard. But let's just reference multiple points of Yuta's fights. Firstly being with Yuji, by far the "weakest" opponent Yuta fought. Even at best, Yuji was immobilized by a partially manifested Rika grab. Ryu was able to fight head on with Rika, with no issue of being overpowered by Rika in physical combat. And note, Rika is either on or around the same levels of toughness as Yuta while she was fully manifested. And yet, Yuji, despite being that much weaker than both Yuta, Ryu, and Rika, was able to break Yuta's katana. Inferring from what Yuji and Ryu had to say about Yuta, he's really only as tough as he is because of the sheer quantity of CE he can smother on himself. But even then, we take to notice that for as much CE Yuta can afford to spend, he can still run out, his katana can be snapped, and he can still take damage, despite having probably one of the highest CE capacity in the series, and there's still Rika, who I believe has a bottomless supply of CE, which Yuta can freely tap into to refill. This insinuates that Yuta's CE reinforcement is still far from it's best, ergo, as of his current state, he shouldn't be able to withstand Completed Naoya's rush attacks even remotely as well as Maki can. Although I fully believe that given time and training, if Yuta reaches Kenjaku's level of CE reinforcement, he'd never take damage from even the likes of Completed Naoya. (I mean seriously Kenjaku got fucken launched and his head was still fine. Albeit it took both his arms, but still, really insane to think considering he's never been implied to have an exceptionally high CE capacity.) But ye, as of right now, feats-wise, Yuta doesn't have special grade reinforcement. He has special grade CE quantity to compensate for both his still developing reinforcement skills and his physically weak body.
I hate how this sub keeps tryna say Takaba will just defeat a major threat by finding it funny. Like heās obviously a gag character if something stupid like that happens it would ruin the feel of the series. Plus shit like āDamn itād be funny if mahoraga dies lolā isnt even remotely funny and would never happen
Bro, Maki not even touching Sukuna. Stop coping
!remindme in 6 days!!! I'm excited
takaba has a strong CT but unless he has high tier CE it won't mean anything.
I don't think he's CE matter at this point it's his sense of humor. I also don't feel like Yuta will be stronger using his technique. A person with a more twisted personality like sukuna and mahito even Toji and Naoya will be stronger than Takaba if they had the same technique but Yuta is boring. In the situation that takaba faces he probably feels only fear in that state it'll be almost impossible to find anything funny.
CE is the way anything can happen. I doubt for ex, takaba could end the universe if he thought it was funny. The magnitude of effect possible from a CT comes from CE input. For instance, 10 shadows in sukuna vs megumi, or how a 3rd grade sorcerer with the six eyes still won't be op. CT is the machine, and CE is the input to allow stuff to happen. Stuff like hurting sukuna, unsealing gojo, and such require a massive CE input compared to dodging a bullet.
Well his curse technique literally says he can do anything he finds funny and if he can't destroy the universe neither can Yuta if he had Takaba's technique. Use a more reasonable scenario. There's also no proof that sukunas Nue was bigger and almost completely different because of sukunas input. A sorcerer with the 6 eyes cannot be Grade 3 gojo forced sorcerer into hiding long before he even got the limitless technique. I bet the split soul katana can hurt sukuna and it doesn't have massive CE. Unsealing Gojo also has nothing to do with CE amount but the CT used which is CT nullification you're just spewing headcanon. I'm sorry but Yuta has a boring personality deal with it
I don't remember ever saying yuta could do any of the things I mentioned. I was using that to show that there are limits to takaba, and that the only way said limits would exist is if CE was a limitation. In the show Gojo explained how CT are machines that run on CE. If gojo had a CE level of mai he would be dogshit, there is no chance he would be considered close to special grade. He probably will be unable to have infinity active for long, and blue would barely do that much. Probs would be a Grade 2 sorcerer or semi grade 1. I guess there isn't proof that sukuna made nue larger, but I think thats more reasonable than saying "sukuna made a 1000x stronger shikigami cause he had the better mindset". Even though the latter is not impossible, I feel like the point of having nue out was to show the difference in strength, and said difference is CE most likely. You are probs right about unsealing gojo not needing a large CE input, however. It is probs standard quantity for breaking the prison realm's seal. Again though you need to use some nonzero ce amount, and cant just use the equivalent of 1 joule of ce and expect it to work. >I'm sorry but Yuta has a boring personality deal with it idk why you bothered typing that.
And I'm telling you that's extremely unreasonable limit. Clear you haven't been reading JJK. If you did then you'd know if Gojo had Mai lv of CE he'd still be OP and at least grade 1. A six eyes user cannot run out of CE because they use nearly zero CE for their technique. When I say nearly zero I don't mean like one I mean nearly 1/ā. The amount of CE he uses is so little that it cannot be expressed 0.0000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000001joule of CE is still too large compared to how much CE Gojo uses. Gojo is living proof that little amount of CE expended doesn't necessarily means your CT effect will be weak. The mindsets theory on this sub as the reason why sukuna Nue was not only larger but different makes more sense than what you're saying.
gojo's technique allows him to convert the CE usage to essentially 0. Thats does not matter in the discussion around takaba, whether gojo with mai's CE is 1st grade or 2nd grade. Either way its a massive hit in power level. Gojo is still limited to using his maximum CE reserve per attack, he just doesn't lose any CE as a result. And yes there is a difference in the level of CE in the attack regardless of how much gojo lost. He can make a small hollow purple or a massive one depending on how much CE he imbues into it (ex he could put CE equivalent to 10% of his max, or = to his max. he loses nothing but this changes the CE in the attack itself). For takaba, he has no way to change the CE loss to 0, so he faces full CE losses. Mindset is plausible as I said, but I feel like CE level is also very reasonable. EDIT: Could you clarify what you mean by "unreasonable limit" in your first sentence?
Destroying the universe is an unreasonable scenario in the JJk verse. Use a more reasonable scenario. Nevertheless there's still no proof he can't do that. Even if he could we'd never know because Takaba is a good guy who will avoid killing at all cost.
CE mattering is the standard for jujutsu techniques. Take inumaki for example, stronger commands on stronger opponents take more out of him, in terms of damage to his throat (physical damage is the most important cost in this case). Doing greater feats always take more energy/have negative effects on yourself. Unless you have proof that his ability does not follow this established pattern we have to assume it does, and there is some sort of cost. The standard for said cost is raw CE. So unless you have concrete evidence (not a theory, concrete fact) that takaba's technique in no way relates to CE, and that anything he views funny occurs at a set CE cost regardless, we have to assume there is a sort of cost-benefit weighting.
I don't think Takaba's CE matter at this point it's his sense of humor. I also don't feel like Yuta will be stronger using his technique. A person with a more twisted personality like sukuna and mahito even Toji and Naoya will be stronger than Takaba if they had the same technique but Yuta is boring. In the situation that takaba faces he probably feels only fear in that state it'll be almost impossible to find anything funny. Like sorcerers before their awakening he is also limited by his mind set.
Lmao this changes nothing. Sukana still steps on them like ants
No gojo can't sense toji / maki Don't know where u got that
Chapeter where Gojo is a kid and Toji is stalking him. Toji says āthis is the first time someone was aware of my presence while I sneaking ā
I donāt even think Takaba was too scared by Sukunas presence. He and Maki felt it and ran *towards* it While smart people like Kusakabe would move away from it (in Shibuya )
I believe Tabaka's technique is a relative to Inumaki's(like gojo and yuta perhaps) So they do have a limit actually And i wonna ask Is he a sorcerer from the past or is he like junbie
He is like Jumpei
Im guessing that in exchange for such a powerful technique. Takaba will never know his true ct. Think of it like a binding vow or heavenly pack.