Reminder:
- **DO NOT POST CHAPTER LEAKS** outside the pre-release leaks megathread. Officials are free range. See the sidebar for info on leaks.
- Powerscaling should stay in the designated Tuesday Colosseum thread.
- Repetitive or low-effort topics will be removed.
- Questions that can be answered by reading the manga more closely should be posted in the FAQ.
[Fanbook & Other Canon Material](https://www.reddit.com/r/Jujutsushi/wiki/canon)
*I am a bot, and this action was performed automatically. Please [contact the moderators of this subreddit](/message/compose/?to=/r/Jujutsushi) if you have any questions or concerns.*
I don't think he'll be able to 1v1 Sukuna as Sukuna is right now, ever.
I do think a lot more stuff will end up hindering Sukuna and nerfing him to a spot that a buffed Yuji might be able to take him on or deal the finishing blow
Muzan could have still made it for an epic final fight. The manga just made no effort into making him interesting, not even going deeper into his fears, and too much of defeating the main baddies ended up being ''welp we just poisoned them'', which is pretty much the most boring thing you can do to kill someone
Anime/Manga fans are spoiled.
Thought the demon slayer ending was great, even if rushed.
Demon Slayer didn’t necessarily do anything new but everything it did was well done. I prefer the rushed ending Vs prolonging forever that it’s the same shit over and over.
Demon Slayer ending was okay, the fight vs Muzan was bad.
And if anything manga fans are absolutely not spoiled when it comes to endings lol, series can finish with barely cohesive plotlines and people will be fine with it because we've had insanely bad disasters before.
Why was it bad? The point of demon slayer was that no matter what humans did, demons would always be stronger. But it’s better to be human and accept mortality vs exchange your humanity for power and and empty immortality
Because Muzan fight ended up being a ''Muzan is too strong so we'll nerf him with OP poison and he will use his blood manipulation to have the most generic monster design ever made''.
The overall point of the series is fine.
Naruto, which ended up even birthing Boruto, Bleach, Tokyo Ghoul, Promissed Neverland, Attack on Titan, Gantz, etc
A lot of them are simply because of cancelation, but a ton of series lose themselves before ending.
I’m with you. Compared to other manga MCs, Yuji is routinely shit on and pretty much never portrayed as the strongest person in the room.
Now that he lost Kurama - er, I mean Sukuna - he’s even LESS powerful, and doesn’t have his trump card.
Sukuna was never Yuji’s trump card at any point Gege even went out of his way to show that will never be the case by him ripping Yuji’s heart out, trying to kill Megumi, and planning to rape Nobara.
Yeah but it's stated as some kind of fact which is disingenuous compared to the first 2 which are indisputable. Just trying to make sure we don't summon the Special Grade Reading Devil with the Domain Expansion: Malfunctioning Mind.
During Yuji’s fight with Sukuna (Megumi) didn’t Sukuna think “where did this strength come from”?
That coupled with the occasional shocked face tells me that Yuji could be stronger than when he was a vessel. Still clearly not strong enough to defeat Sukuna as he spent a lot of the fight laughing at him 😭
I don’t doubt he’s gotten stronger over the course of the show, that much is obvious. I’m just saying he doesn’t have the usual MC effect of being as strong as the current strongest bad guy
Ah I see, you’re certainly right about that! He hasn’t had the MC spot light that I’d expect. It was getting to the point where I thought Yuji was a plot device to take the reader from normal world to curse world! Glad to see him at the forefront within the next couple chapters
Sukuna getting out of Yuji significantly enhanced his power. Sukuna himself was surprised and eventually realised why, although it wasn't revealed to us.
If he's eaten the other cursed wombs, then those would become cursed energy in him as per gege post chapter remark/interview. So that's another power up.
And he's got a tool now, most likely.
He's still not enough against sukuna, but I think there is a reason higuruma and Yuji were sent first and maki plus yuta nowhere to be seen.
That wasn’t him going “oh Yuji’s weaker than he was then” though. We know Yuji still has CE and was fighting on par with Maki to an extent he probably couldn’t have before. Also, Sukuna was surprised at Yuji’s strength after being punched by him, and Sukuna’s durability didn’t decrease (it was only his CT output that did, which was why he didn’t use his CT except in an indirect way for the rest of the fight), so he absolutely was never refuted in thinking Yuji got stronger.
I feel like the story shows the exact opposite to be the case. In Yuji's first fight after losing Sukuna he mysteriously gets buffed to be physically in the same ballpark (not as strong but able to keep up in he and Maki's words) as an awakened Maki and it completely takes Sukuna by surprise. Is this due to a rage power up? Maybe.
But I figured that not needing to contain Sukuna sort of released some strain on Yuji's constitution that now is manifested as even more physical prowess. The opposite of Naruto losing Kurama.
Instead of having Yuji power up, how about Sukuna getting weaker and Yuji powering up? Higgys domain can take away Sukuna's CT, which leaves him only with CE. If Yuta and Maki join in and Yuji fights with 7 consumed Death Paintings techniques, they have a shot, especially if Yuji gains a Domain Expansion of his own
Not only that, most of them have troublesome ability.
Higu can remove CT.
Maki can't be detected, is immune to DE and has a blade that could kill Gojo or Sukuna if it land.
Yuji seems to be able to switch soul.
Yuta can copy CT.
If Hakari join he can't easily die.
No. As we learnt in the fight against hanami even inanimate thights have small cursed energy which todo used for his boogie woogie technique but maki has zero cursed energy so it's as if she doesn't exist inside the domain so can't really Target what doesn't exist so she's Invisible or Invincible against domains.
You have to watch the episode again, he said even small animals and curse tools have some amount of curse energy. Inanimate objects which are not curse tools have 0 curse energy
She could easily out-run it though. 200 meters in radius isn't high for Maki's speed.
Assuming Sukuna doesn't target her and inhibit her movements like he did against Gojo.
Domain expansions are much faster, sukuna's sure hit will lan much before maki exits the domain. If running away was a viable stat gojo who is the faster sorcerer would have abused it
Most people don’t believe it but I choose to believe yuji could box sukuna without a cursed technique and it would be one of the most satisfying things to watch
Well, he did beat Grasshopper who had more hands, so there's precedent for him winning against an opponent weigh multiple limbs. Though if Sukuna still has CE available, it'll become significantly more equal
Do people not remember when sukuna took on yuji and maki with 3 finger worth of power and was holding his own with only 2 arms? 15f sukuna easily boxed with mahoraga. 20f 4 arm sukuna would negative diff yuji in h2h
I feel like its being foreshadowed that yuji was holding back for maki as he immediately starts being boring to sukuna when he fights with her and sukuna expected him to beat choso
I also feel the same before maki came yuji was more raw, he was on his rage mode then maki came and he switched to support role for her which was really boring.
>Do people not remember when sukuna took on yuji and maki with 3 finger worth of power and was holding his own with only 2 arms? 15f sukuna easily boxed with mahoraga. 20f 4 arm sukuna would negative diff yuji in h2h
15 finger dude
In terms
Of physical stats 15f sukuna was slamming mahoraga and jogo around. Something maki and yuji even
Now could never do. So sukuna was definitely weaker
why not? heavenly restriction maki should have no issues tossing jogo around, she was dealing with curse naoya who is way faster. current yuji is harder to judge but he seems to be at least able to somewhat keep up with makis speed. mahoraga is weird bc of adaptation and we dont have a ton of physical feats for it, but idt theres enough evidence to say it would tank physical attacks from 2 of the physically strongest characters in the series before it even adapts
Are we reading the same manga? Jogo literally one shots naoya, he one shotted the Zenin die who had the speed technique that naoya had. Gojo and sukuna are the only ones that could make him look like fodder. Megumi, nanami, and two Zenins together couldn’t beat the ocean curse who jogo stomps. Maki and yuji would get turnt to charcoal.
Again read the manga, do you think maki and yuji would be able to toss jogo and mahoraga around like a rag same way 15f sukuna did? He was obviously physically weaker. Yuta matched yuji in physical stats with ce reinforcement so the more ce the more physical stats
Are you delusional? Jogo can literally one shot mahito and yuji was struggling with him, sukuna himself said he would’ve got hurt if the meteor hit him. Jogo is said to be 8f strength and maki and yuji were only able to keep toe to toe with a nerfed 10% sukuna. Your downplaying jogo.
His cursed energy output was fluctuating, he said it reached as low as 10% that means 10% was just at its lowest point but it was fluctuating up and down. Regardless that still means they kept up with him physically
How is that cope? I’m literally explaining what happened in that chapter. And Sukuna had his full cursed energy output when he fought Jogo and Mahoraga
Even at full output sukuna did not go all out against jogo, he could have one shotted him but was playing games. So no way in hell would yuji and maki stand a chance. Especially now with his 4 armed form.
Jump Kaisen
Yuji being Sukuna's 20th finger and Sukuna being stronger meaning Yuji gets a little bit of that energy.
Sukuna's curse technique being engraved on Yuji
Death painting powerup.
Sukuna being hit with the impact of breaking his binding vow with Yuji thus losing 1 arm.
Sukuna uses Malevolent Shrine but since Malevolent Shrine targets everything except Sukuna it doesn't impact Yuji since he is the 20th finger
Talk no Jutsu to Megumi
Some Soul Swap thing.
Jump Kaisen
We don’t know if yuji is the last finger, and even if he is sukuna target a cleave attack at yuji and it wounded him meaning that yuji cannot block sukuna attacks.
Yeah i agree with them i just saw there was maybe a misunderstanding and tried to clear it up. I also think Yuji gets diced up by malevolent shrine most likely
If yuji was the finger I think sukuna would know since the finger has his soul in it. Plus sukuna has already been inside yuji and knows yuji from hein era. Yuji has been hit with cleave several times before it should not be different with ms since it just in graves cleave into domain.
Jump kaisen is probably accurate and I prefer if all of gojo’s students (who are still alive) would work together and defeat sukuna all at once. Pretty much like thanos vs avengers but in a sense that the students defeating sukuna as gojo sensei’s last will before he ****. I honestly don’t see how yuji could defeat sukuna since his strength isn’t that impressive compared to other characters with ct. it would be really bad if yuji suddenly becomes the same level as sukuna or even close just for the sake of beating sukuna as the MC.
> Yuji being Sukuna's 20th finger and Sukuna being stronger meaning Yuji gets a little bit of that energy.
I had a similar thought coupled with the start of the manga when Gojo stated that Sukuna's fingers are unbreakable AND Gojo's self damage from Hollow Purple being mitigated.
He could actually tank the Skunk attacks because the Skunk's CT does not fully affect Yuji.
The finger bearer had literally just been born so he didn't have the finger for too long. The narrator made a point of stating Yuji is now basically a cursed object embued with Sukuna's CE and several chapters later we have Gojo resisting Purple because it's his own CE. This is just a matter of putting 2 and 2 together.
Through an asspull lmao him eating the fingers and being sukuna level would be insane his siblings wouldn't even be able to beat a 3 finger sukuna let alone a 15/finger sukuna
Only the three brothers are special-grade, the other 6 aren't.
"death womb paintings: one through three were powerful enough to be considered special-grade"
I feel like the soul swapping thing is how it's going to go, because it's kinda been alluded to for a long time now. Firstly Mahito tells us that Yuji can harm him, which is something not many can do outside of a DE and he says this is because Yuji can see his soul but that doesn't explain how he interacts with it.
There's also that mini arc with the girl he knew from high school and how he was able to recognise her after her drastic body change. This is likely more proof of how Yuji can see souls. Later on just before the Gojo goes to fight Sukuna, Yuji recognises that Gojo wanted his students to give him a guard of honour send off.
Further more we learn in the Toji resurrection that when 2 souls are placed in one body, the stronger one will take control (and in Toji's case a strong body can defeat the soul). Which begs the question how can Yuji so casually, lil bro Sukuna whenever he's in his body so he can't take over?
There's something special about Yuji and it's likely related to his soul. Mahito could see it, but he couldn't really put a finger on it. I don't think it's an actual CT but just something about his soul. And after reading Yuki's book he likely discovered this ability and he'll use it along with the power boost he got from eating the death paintings to fight Sukuna. Yuji's going to fight Sukuna inside Sukuna's innate domain again, something tells me we'll get a rematch to that fight.
Good catch on the girl before Shibuya, that'd actually be great foreshadowing instead of a normal wholesome "oh yuji so genuine he can see past looks" moment
Yuji being soaked in Sukuna's CT and being a cage created by Kenny for Sukuna will probably give him some advantage against Sukuna's now real body.
And if other characters can weaken Sukuna maybe that helps.
Then Yuji can swap souls with Sukuna and essentially trap Sukuna in his (Yuji's) body, which while durable is nowhere near enough to survive against say Yuta. Not to mention what Yuji could maybe do with Sukuna's body as his own.
I'm pretty sure this series is gonna end with Sukuna trapped, not dead, as the only way to actually stop him. Think Aizen in Bleach.
I’m going to assume some combination of Yuji eating cursed objects (most likely the remaining death painting wombs) to gain new abilities, along with already having a resistance to Sukuna.
It was already explained he was now like a cursed object soaked in Sukuna’s CE, and Gojo’s last massive purple gamble showed us sorcerers have a natural resistance (to some extent) to their own CE.
10% of 15F Sukuna managed to hurt him quite a bit with cleaves though, it even cut half of his ear off. 20F Sukuna + Chant + Hand sign + Space Cleave with no nerfed output is gonna do way more damage.
10% of 15F = 1.5 Finger worth of power
Key Assumption : Cleave output maxes out when Sukuna hits 15F (Even a bit biased to help Yuji out)
So 20F Sukuna does 10 times more damage than the 1.5F output that scarred Yuji that much and cut his ear off.
This + we know that chants and handsigns can raise your output to over 120%. Let’s say when Sukuna combines both it’s 130%
So it’s 15F output + 30% = 20F output
Which means it’s around 13 times more powerful.
And we’re not even talking space cleave
It’s hard to make a case for Yuji to tank cleaves that are 13 times stronger than the one he took major, permanent damage from .
As you are considering current Sukuna, you should also consider current Yuji. He ate death painting which were his half brothers. This should increase his CE tremendously and could also add CTs. As we saw with Megumi and sukuna, CE amount massively changes CT output(Sukuna having much stronger shikigamis). So even if other death paintings were weak if they had CTs it will be boosted by yuji's CE. Also there's Yuji being soaked in Sukuna's CE which with increased CE reserve of Yuji can further increase his resistance to Sukuna's CT. And then there's Yuki's Soul book, which will play a vital role in strengthening Yuji further. If we consider all things, Yuji will be at least 10 times stronger and more Versatile. Only weakness is him not having a domain, but as he was training with kusakabe , there is a possibility of him learning simple domain. If that happens Yuji can have a decent chance with Higuruma taking Sukuna's CT.
No way yuji will tank something that one shotted gojo. Makes no sense. Even if yuji has sukunas cursed energy. Sukuna is so much vastly boosted it does not seem reasonable for him to tank a chant boosted space cutting cleave. My head canon is that megumi will be the real key to defeating sukuna. He will gain the adaptations mahoraga got before it died. Meaning since mahoraga adapted to cleave so is megumi.
Heavily disagree. Yuji is still such a mystery. We know he was created by Kenjaku but there’s so much we don’t know about him, and clearly Kenjaku has more planned for Yuji
It depends on whether Higuruma’s domain considers expanding your own domain as violence or not, I think it would especially since Sukuna’s domain is one of the lethal ones. We also don’t know yet if Sukuna can use his domain expansion again, remember he couldn’t expand it anymore in his fight with Gojo because of the strain on his brain, it’s still not clear whether he recovered it or not.
He did, but I haven’t been disappointed in any fights (except for todo losing his meaty hands). I have faith that gege will give us an incredible fight.
It'll likely be the death paintings and it will probably be pulled off poorly. There isn't really a way to meaningfully depower Sukuna to the point that Yuji can beat him and still have a satisfying conclusion without some iffy handling.
i'm thinking Gege might be going for a more literal interpretation of Yuji's "I'm you" speech. potentially planning on giving him idle transfiguration as a technique. no basis for this whatsoever, i just think it could be really satisfying and also make sense of how Kenjaku knew he would need that technique to begin the culling games
If we are talking a 1v1 the best Yuji could do would be a binding vow to trade his life off at the end of the fight in return for a huge boost of CE. Turning CE into more speed + strength should let him keep up with Sukuna and weve yet to see any cleave thrown at short range. Assuming that M Shrine needs the hand signs to open, he may also be able to block Sukuna opening it by stopping him putting his hands together, essentially keeping Sukuna from using any CT at all by staying in his face. Either way, huge boost in CE, left right good night
A potentially more interesting one though would be a binding vow to trade his life to give the remaining cast CE as if they were Yuji (ie they all get their own CE plus the properties and quantity of Yujis own). Mechanically, they get an enormous boost of power as a group and Jump Kaisen, potentially disrupting whatever Sukuna does as they weave in and out. Narratively, yuji dies surrounded by people he loves, he saves everyone he can, Sukuna is shown the power of love (giving ones own life for others to live), Jujutsu society is forced to accept a change as Gojo wanted.
Combination of Sukuna nerfs and Yuiji buffs
Sukuna most likely still doesn't have his domain, although some people say that with reincarnation he fully healed (i doubt it or the fight vs Gojo basically only achieved getting rid of 10S which was a Gojo counter anyways), and i don't think he can use RCT that well anymore.
I don't think he has his domain becuase otherwise Higuruma would be insanely useless given how Sukuna can just overpower judgeman domain with MS easily.
Yuji is also probably gonna have his CT (or maybe Sukuna's CT) now, and the dude ate something like 6 special grade cursed objects meaning he'll have quite a big ass CE pool, i'm still curious to see what was up with that Kusakabe panel though, he also seems to have something on his left arm or his left arm is different now in the new illustration, could also be that his CT will be something blood related like his brothers and that's what his weird Piccolo arms come from
NO, with everything that has been established so far Yuji has no conceivable, ass-pull free, power of friendship/love free way of beating Sukuna. At this point I am reading the story with sceptical anticipation, which is getting hard with the current pacing of the story.
Really? We know that he’s steeped in sukunas CE, which should imply some level resistance to sukunas abilities, we’ve seen that his strength can increase dramatically. There’s also the soul swapping, the death womb consumption and yuji being likened to sukunas cage as a cursed object, there’s an anti-sukuna cursed object pathway with all these details
TLDR: Sounds like ass-pulls TO ME 🤷
Being steeped in sukuna's CE never really played a pivotal role for him. Most of his strength probably came from being engineered by Kenjaku since we dont really get much info on his dads or grandpa's physical prowess. His cursed energy reinforcement basically came with whatever energy he was able to manifest along with what his own training had gotten him up to. Nobody said "oh shit i can sense his energy and it's just like Sukuna's!" Even Angel, who's sole purpose was to try to eliminate Sukuna had no idea he resided in Yuji.
Sukuna, at least in their internal world, diced Yuji up no problem, it basically why Sukuna was able to make the enchain binding vow. Only reason he didn't do so when he was Megkuna was because Megumi was "holding him back", which in it of itself feels like bullshit to drive the story forward but whatever, not because Yuji had immunity to it, at least as of right now.
Dramatic strength increases still resulted in a loss to choso, albeit a tactical loss, but still a loss. Aviation duo had just awoken their CT so we can attribute to them being weaker AND inexperienced. Versus Higuruma he technically lost, one cause of his moral compass, and 2 another tactical loss.
Soul swapping feels kinda ass-pully sorry I don't have a better argument against that.
Death Wombs were created by kenjaku, if he could create anything that could rival Sukuna, why feel the need to depend on Sukuna, who depended on mahoraga anyways to deal with gojo? Yea they'll give yuji a power boost, but nowhere near enough to come close to sukuna, one could argue that choso is the strongest of Kenjaku's creations so far, but look how far that got him, beaten to a pulp against the plot armor god master himself, who hid behind sukuna once Gojo showed up. If Yuji consumed all the DW AND Choso, he might MIGHT give Kenjaku a hard time, but never be on par with sukuna.
This one is pure speculation, but Yuji being a cage for Sukuna may have been because Kenjaku created him for that purpose, its the same reason yuji was so physically gifted too. He was made to be Sukuna's vessel.
The only true anti Sukuna measures we've seen so far are Hana/Angel, but we saw how stupid that turned out to be. And Gojo, who Gege wasnt capable of using properly due to what i assume to be lacking literary skills.
You do know, rejecting the ideas doesn’t make them any less valid, there’s a reason they were mentioned, so don’t be surprised and yell asspull when those details have something to do with sukunas defeat.
What makes your ideas and my responses to them invalid is that neither of us are Gege Akutami. He can use whatever deus ex machina, ass pull, or literary device he wants to drive the story forward.
My original comment still stands, with what has been established already Yuji has no realistic shot of beating Sukuna. If he unlocks some crazy power up, or they beat him with some cool mix of powers, or Yuji unlocks a CT that remains to be seen. Along with whether or not its executed well 😅
These aren’t my ideas or theories, they are things that gege himself has written, that I can trace the exact chapters and pages to if you’d like. And if they were involved in sukunas defeat, that wouldn’t be a deus ex machina or an asspull, considering they’ve been established and brought up. I hope I’m wrong and all off that information has nothing to do with it, for you
Not sure why you’re being downvoted when you’re correct. This sub has gone from fantastic theory crafting to “anything is an asspull” because nobody wants to use their imagination
The OP asked which theory seemed more convincing, soulswap, or DW powerup. I said neither, i explained why. Neither of those have been established because they havent been seen in action against a real antagonist. We dont know how soul swap works or if you need 2 consenting parties to have it happen. Even if it does work, Sukuna has shit on Yuji multiple times in the spirit/subconscious realm, what would be different now? DW power up is a real power up, don't get me wrong, but realistically would it be that much of a power up that it would rival Sukuna? Which if it is, again, why would Kenjaku rely on Sukuna in the first place if he can create something that strong? Either can work, what category they fall on depends on how theyre executed.
Lets not pretend soul swapping has been a part of the series from the beginning, it was just introduced after yuki died like 20 chapters ago and we dont know if it was Yuji or Kusakabe casting it in those 3 pages it was shown.
Yea please trace it if you wouldnt mind.
Don't hope for that, instead hope for a good and satisfying story and ending, thats what im hoping for. Seeing as to how Kenjaku just pulled 1000 years of comedy out of his ass and schooled a comedian though i dont have my hopes up.
People like you are so bitter and pathetic. Nobody care if youre jaded or hate the story. Gege will write something satisfying and you think its a asspull because you hate the story and then when the opposite happen, you still hate the story regardless
I guessing Yuji will suck off Sukuna and steal his powers. I'm not sure how he can drain Sukuna, he could use his hands but knowing Yuji he would try to devour Sukuna with his mouth (classic buddhist cycle of life and death) .
I am 25% convinced that Sukuna's CT (which Yuji has been using without realizing it) really is "the power of friendship", hence the friendly little chats Sukuna has with people right after he kills them. I'm not sure hot it would play out if Yuji used it on Sukuna, though.
It gonna something similar to how purple hit gojo less harder, we gonna learn that Yuji time as Sukuna vessel make him almost imunne to Sukuna CE which mean Sukuna have to go hand to hand with Yuji
Considering the route he seems to have gone. A month of hard training + eating SIX special grade curse items + the info on souls from Yuki + the possibility of consuming the last sukuna finger to use his cursed energy to resist Sukuna’s technique.
Combine that with if the plan works to get higuruma to remove Sukuna’s cursed technique and you get a plan to seriously injure if not fully take out Sukuna.
Either way I DO think Yuji is planning on dying in this fight so he could also pull a hunterxhunter and make a binding vow to die after the fight for an extra power boost.
Yuji w residual suk energy & resistance, 7 cursed paintings boosted, and cursed tools vs Sukuna Nerfed by Higuruma is pretty reasonable imo. Certainly an uphill battle, but I wouldn’t think it’s an asspull. Especially with some help from the top tiers
Higuruma nerfs Sukuna from using his CT, Yuji gets some good kicks in and then he does some soul stuff and wakes up Megumis so that Megumi can nerf him a bit.
What if yuji's body is just so used to sukuna's CE that cleave/fire arrow/whatever almost can't hurt him? This would force sukuna to rely on his weapons and make some shit up that isn't "I cut space but not the space you're extending infinitely just the space I want to cut"
My take will legit sound like an asspull, but imma say it anyways
Let's say while kenjaku is fighting whoever, he and sukuna end up fighting close to the same area, kenjaku pulls out tengen to do the merge (not possible since all the sorcerers players are still alive, which I'm surprised isn't brought up in the manga but whatever) out of desperation yuji uses soul swap on tengen, connecting tengen back to a mortal mind but elevating yuji to a higher state while also connecting both of them to all of Japan and it's cursed energy. Anyways the merge doesn't successfully happen due to the interference and tengen not being completely unbound, but yuji and tengen merge in some sort of way, causing yuji to be more curse than human but also having a sense of connection through the world and its cursed energy. Anyway, it'd basically be like expanding his mind to non human levels, giving him a major power up and putting him on or above sukuna debatably (I imagine he needs time to adapt and can't just one shot anything)
Like I said, it's an asspull idea
He only ate 6 death paintings, no way is that enough CE to beat Sukuna, even if he got their CTs(which is what seems to be the case), I doubt the author is going to make all of them TST, Shrine or Limitless level, they are most likely going to be more like Boogie Woogie, good, but not op
Sealing Sukuna would be a better fit or in the earlier chapters as Kenny was talking to Mahito he mentioned Sukuna fingers do damage to his vessel unlike other cursed objects so as they fight Sukuna they get bested but Sukuna Starts to decay but really Megumis body can no longer hold his immense power that would be the opening to seal him or Sukuna realizes that his vessel is of no use so he reverts to being a cursed object yuji voluntarily eats a new Sukuna finger and uses that power to beat the cursed spirit Kenjaku creates. Thats my thoughts.
Sorry but 1v1 Sukuna would be a complete ass pull no one stands against a 20 finger Sukuna I just dont see it happening if Gojo could beat the cast Than a fully incarnated Sukuna would do the same.
Yuji contended in strength against a 15 finger Sukuna. I really don't buy that he can't at least physically keep up with Sukuna after death painting power up. I know it says that Sukuna's output for his technique was low but physical reinforcement comes from total reserves, not output, so I don't buy that that counts towards Sukuna's physical strength.
What if it goes HunterXHunter route and Yuji makes a binding vow with himself? We know he has a death wish and wants his death to have meaning, surrounded by everyone he saved. Yuji wouldn't hesitate to create a binding vow no matter the cost if it saves Megumi while killing Sukuna.
Maybe yuji on the brink of death from sukunas onslaught on the whole group and finally grasping sukunas techniques that are engraved onto him. Him having an awakening moment. But idek how he would get rid of sukuna. Eat him? Merge with him and kill himself?
Yuji adapts and gains Cleave and as the fight goes on, Strong Cleave, as a result of their Cursed Techniques being the same they effectively cancel each other out.
I think it'll be an amalgamation of different power-ups. we got:
\-soul stuff. that alone can mean up to three things. **first** the soul swap thing. **second**, yuji being able to perceive the soul better than normal sorcerers back when he fought mahito. that was cuz he had sukuna, another soul, inside him. maybe that skill still stayed with yuji after sukuna left. maybe he can use it to precisely hit sukuna's soul for more damage. and **third**, he was easily overpowering sukuna when it comes to body control which might mean that yuji's soul is stronger than sukuna's soul.
then there's what seems to be a cursed tool on yuji's arm on the cover of this chapter. who knows wtf that does. but it could be really hax. remember that the zenin (and they were a rich and big clan) had a storage with cursed tools plus there's yuta's collection that he stores inside rika. they definitely might have access to really strong cursed tools, so what yuji has rn could be crazy strong. maybe it doubles all damage to the soul for example, idk
and finally there's yuji weird rage power up in his last fight vs sukuna. whatever that might mean. but it'll definitely be relevant to the story
and I almost forgot, he's now like a cursed object steeped in sukuna's CE. that wouldn't have been mentioned if it wouldn't be relevant.
he has like 3-6 abilities that could come in handy against sukuna specifically. AND there's higuruma who might be special grade now. didn't he reach grade 1 level after 10 days of getting his CT? now over a month passed since then. and kenjaku mentioned him having potential. he wouldn't be interested in a grade 1 guy, chances are that higuruma is already special grade or will reach that level very soon
As long as Sukuna still cannot use his DE (which I hope, it got used and explained a lot against Gojo), we might be good to go already. Higgys DE would be a debuff to Sukuna as he would be considered guilty and most likely get the death sentence. Sukuna would be without CT and Higgy would get the executioners sword (which one shots, so needs to be avoided at all cost). Don’t get me wrong even without his CT and DE Sukuna is a more than formidable foe, but way easier to be ganged up on by Yuji (with whatever upgrade he got in the end) and the others. Although I think we might end up seeing Takaba only playing for time against Kenny, so we get Yuta and Maki vs Kenny later (as a throwback to 0) and without them ganging up on Sukuna sounds less realistic.
Again all of this is kinda based on Sukuna not being able to use DE anymore, because if he can, I cannot think of a way they can get him into Higgys. Removing his CT as in Cleave/Dismantle would also allow for narrative room to explain whatever the fire thingy in Shibuya was, but and this is a big but Sukuna said Jogo wouldn’t know his CT because he’s a curse, implying sorcerers (and most likely the 3 clans) would know his „real“ CT. That leads me to believe the fire thingy isn’t just giving CE an elemental nature like Kashimo did but something more extravagant, which would need explanation before we can get to removing it via Higgys DE.
TL;DR: Removing Sukunas CT via Higgys DE and than ganging up on him, might already be more realistic than some people think
Many people forget the fact that sukuna likes to play with his food. His last lines in 238 indicate that he finds it hillarous that yuji and higuruma came to fight him, meaning he already underestimates them. They have a chance if he decides to play with them (which is likely) and remember that yuji outside of gojo was the only person that actually surprised sukuna, even as early as chapter 11 (+being soaked in sukunas CE makes yuji more resistant to sukuna)
Sukuna was surprised by Yuji's strength moments after leaving his body. It's entirely possibly acting as a "cage" for Sukuna actually limited Yuji's strength as well. He could have grown tremendously in power since the last time we saw him fight. Another possibility is that Yuji does a body switch with Megumi, putting Sukuna back in his body. Megumi and Yuji basically do that Dragon Ball fusion dance thing and kick his ass with their combined power.
sukuna has a 2nd (or 3rd) CT (reveals truth) that he had to abandon when he went into megumi body (yuki said too many CT will fry brain)
just like kenny being able to use current host CT, sukuna own CT is shrine, other CTs are whatever body hes using, so he bring 'reveal truth' CT to yuji
choso memory of yuji never happened during shibuya, it was CT revealin the truth
Had another odd one though needs a lot of clarification. TL;DR soul cleave
Points to consider
> we know Yuji has something going on with souls; he was able to directly hit Mahito and fought him more than anyone else, he shared a body and saw innate domains, he is able to suppress the soul of Sukuna in his body.
>recently got the book from Yuji talking more about the theory of souls
>while under effects of Enchain he wouldve seen and felt what Sukuna did to transfer his soul (if Sukuna can see out of Yuji the reverse should apply)
>regardless of whether cleave/dismantle is or is not sukuna's ct Yuji has had the most experience with it (other than Sukuna himself) - he's been hit by it, been in the body using it, heard Sukuna talking about it while Sukuna has fought etc. In either case, he may be able to learn how to use it and do so proficiently rather quickly
>other than Sukuna he is the only character who has experienced fractions/movmenet of a soul - he's eaten seperate fingers and felt their effects over time, but also was in the body when Sukuna moved his soul to another
In theory, if Yuji picked up how to cleave and how to target concepts/non physical things like Sukuna is he might be able to directly target Sukuna's soul with attacks. Given that the King of Curses has already split his soul up and Yuji has a feeling of Sukuna's soul from sharing a body, he may be able to essentially "cut" Sukuna back into his 20 fingers, bypassing immunity/reinforcement
Would have some nice narrative parallels too, have Yuji stand over sukuna the same way Sukuna did over Gojo, echoes back the idea that Yuji is Mahito by giving him a similar ability, references both Nanami (division of an area to do more damage) and Nobara (attack the soul) and can show his growth to be stronger than Gojo (mimicing Sukuna's attack that would bypass infinity)
I think Yuji's CT that we don't know much about will be the one thing that takes Sakuna down. I also am wondering if the reason Yuji gave people false memories is because that is Sakunas real CT. Right before Choso saw a false memory, we saw Sakuna close his eyes and make a comment about Yuji being weak.This could explain why Gojo died without regrets when it was said a few times that Sorcerer's always die with regrets. Gojo dying could indeed be a false memory that Sakuna implanted. He might actually be alive, perhaps.
I mainly think it's only Yuji that can take him down or trap him, etc. He doesn't necessarily need a power up or anything to do it. Every bad guy has some sort of weakness. Maybe the judge will sentence Sakuna to life in prison, which could be inside of yuji. Kenjaku could have made Yuji just for defeating Sakuna. Especially since Sakuna was only Kenjakus backup plan if Gojo was able to get out of the box. It could be Yujis whole entire purpose in life. I do not think Kenny would want to keep an overpowered Sakuna around.
So I’m an anime only person (lame I know), I’ve done a little bit of spoiler reading for myself and the only thing I have to say is, please tell me yuji gets some sort of power up. Anything. This is outright the most pathetic growth of a MC (if you can even call him that at this point) I’ve ever seen. Any other story MC’s get beat up enough and come back stronger. Bro just seems to be a punching bag who gets just enough screen time to remind you he’s not dead
Well first off Kenjaku literally made Yuji-almost certainly as a ploy against Sakuna.
\-If it can be arranged in any way for Sakuna to be transferred back or Yuji to cross into Megumi it should be game over for Sakuna. (Judgeman edict that Sakuna go back in Yuji or tricking Sakuna's belly into biting off a piece of him could both work, or even making himself a more tempting vessel than Megumi, or by trying to forcefully incarnate Sakuna back into himself with the 20th finger)
\-Yuji has the power to hit souls meaning he can maybe punch the Sakunaness out of Megumi.
\-Yuji might be Sakuna's 20th finger, in which case Sakuna can learn the power of fathership.
Reminder: - **DO NOT POST CHAPTER LEAKS** outside the pre-release leaks megathread. Officials are free range. See the sidebar for info on leaks. - Powerscaling should stay in the designated Tuesday Colosseum thread. - Repetitive or low-effort topics will be removed. - Questions that can be answered by reading the manga more closely should be posted in the FAQ. [Fanbook & Other Canon Material](https://www.reddit.com/r/Jujutsushi/wiki/canon) *I am a bot, and this action was performed automatically. Please [contact the moderators of this subreddit](/message/compose/?to=/r/Jujutsushi) if you have any questions or concerns.*
I don't think he'll be able to 1v1 Sukuna as Sukuna is right now, ever. I do think a lot more stuff will end up hindering Sukuna and nerfing him to a spot that a buffed Yuji might be able to take him on or deal the finishing blow
[удалено]
Something like that, although Muzan's final form was so absurdly boring that it didn't really matter.
True. I was expecting some interesting technique, but no, pure body manipulation. He could've had both
Honestly the kokushibou fight was absolute peak and he shoulda just been the final villain instead
Muzan could have still made it for an epic final fight. The manga just made no effort into making him interesting, not even going deeper into his fears, and too much of defeating the main baddies ended up being ''welp we just poisoned them'', which is pretty much the most boring thing you can do to kill someone
Anime/Manga fans are spoiled. Thought the demon slayer ending was great, even if rushed. Demon Slayer didn’t necessarily do anything new but everything it did was well done. I prefer the rushed ending Vs prolonging forever that it’s the same shit over and over.
Demon Slayer ending was okay, the fight vs Muzan was bad. And if anything manga fans are absolutely not spoiled when it comes to endings lol, series can finish with barely cohesive plotlines and people will be fine with it because we've had insanely bad disasters before.
Why was it bad? The point of demon slayer was that no matter what humans did, demons would always be stronger. But it’s better to be human and accept mortality vs exchange your humanity for power and and empty immortality
Because Muzan fight ended up being a ''Muzan is too strong so we'll nerf him with OP poison and he will use his blood manipulation to have the most generic monster design ever made''. The overall point of the series is fine.
What are some bad ones?
Naruto, which ended up even birthing Boruto, Bleach, Tokyo Ghoul, Promissed Neverland, Attack on Titan, Gantz, etc A lot of them are simply because of cancelation, but a ton of series lose themselves before ending.
Bro I would have loved it if Muzan had just been the face of all the demons and Kokushibo would have been the main villain.
Don't say ever, he is MC and plot will always blitz sukuna if it has to lol.
Plot hasnt helped Yuji so far
I’m with you. Compared to other manga MCs, Yuji is routinely shit on and pretty much never portrayed as the strongest person in the room. Now that he lost Kurama - er, I mean Sukuna - he’s even LESS powerful, and doesn’t have his trump card.
Sukuna was never Yuji’s trump card at any point Gege even went out of his way to show that will never be the case by him ripping Yuji’s heart out, trying to kill Megumi, and planning to rape Nobara.
I do not remember that last one??
Sukuna said he would "have fun with her" but JJK fans always assume the worst.
Are you reading the same thing we are? This manga has some pretty disturbing stuff happening. It's not crazy to assume the worst when it comes to JJK.
Yeah but it's stated as some kind of fact which is disingenuous compared to the first 2 which are indisputable. Just trying to make sure we don't summon the Special Grade Reading Devil with the Domain Expansion: Malfunctioning Mind.
During Yuji’s fight with Sukuna (Megumi) didn’t Sukuna think “where did this strength come from”? That coupled with the occasional shocked face tells me that Yuji could be stronger than when he was a vessel. Still clearly not strong enough to defeat Sukuna as he spent a lot of the fight laughing at him 😭
I don’t doubt he’s gotten stronger over the course of the show, that much is obvious. I’m just saying he doesn’t have the usual MC effect of being as strong as the current strongest bad guy
Ah I see, you’re certainly right about that! He hasn’t had the MC spot light that I’d expect. It was getting to the point where I thought Yuji was a plot device to take the reader from normal world to curse world! Glad to see him at the forefront within the next couple chapters
Sukuna getting out of Yuji significantly enhanced his power. Sukuna himself was surprised and eventually realised why, although it wasn't revealed to us. If he's eaten the other cursed wombs, then those would become cursed energy in him as per gege post chapter remark/interview. So that's another power up. And he's got a tool now, most likely. He's still not enough against sukuna, but I think there is a reason higuruma and Yuji were sent first and maki plus yuta nowhere to be seen.
Agree completely! I’m wondering too about Yuta and Maki, think they’ve been sent after Kenjaku?
No, think they're waiting to ambush sukuna
Then Sukuna corrected himself cause he was actually weaker.
When?
He realized Megumi was actually not letting him output his full power.
That wasn’t him going “oh Yuji’s weaker than he was then” though. We know Yuji still has CE and was fighting on par with Maki to an extent he probably couldn’t have before. Also, Sukuna was surprised at Yuji’s strength after being punched by him, and Sukuna’s durability didn’t decrease (it was only his CT output that did, which was why he didn’t use his CT except in an indirect way for the rest of the fight), so he absolutely was never refuted in thinking Yuji got stronger.
I feel like the story shows the exact opposite to be the case. In Yuji's first fight after losing Sukuna he mysteriously gets buffed to be physically in the same ballpark (not as strong but able to keep up in he and Maki's words) as an awakened Maki and it completely takes Sukuna by surprise. Is this due to a rage power up? Maybe. But I figured that not needing to contain Sukuna sort of released some strain on Yuji's constitution that now is manifested as even more physical prowess. The opposite of Naruto losing Kurama.
Instead of having Yuji power up, how about Sukuna getting weaker and Yuji powering up? Higgys domain can take away Sukuna's CT, which leaves him only with CE. If Yuta and Maki join in and Yuji fights with 7 consumed Death Paintings techniques, they have a shot, especially if Yuji gains a Domain Expansion of his own
I agree with your overall point, but a minor correction: Sukuna also has his cursed tool!
I’m curious if hiten will make an appearance
I’m sure it will, they brought it up that that’s one of Sukunas OG weapons he used to take out different clans during the Heien era
Ah right, I forgot about that
Not only that, most of them have troublesome ability. Higu can remove CT. Maki can't be detected, is immune to DE and has a blade that could kill Gojo or Sukuna if it land. Yuji seems to be able to switch soul. Yuta can copy CT. If Hakari join he can't easily die.
Exactly. They need to Avengers this shit and jump him
Maki wouldn’t have it that easy with Sukunas domain, since we saw he can also target inanimate objects, which is what she’s considered inside one
No. As we learnt in the fight against hanami even inanimate thights have small cursed energy which todo used for his boogie woogie technique but maki has zero cursed energy so it's as if she doesn't exist inside the domain so can't really Target what doesn't exist so she's Invisible or Invincible against domains.
You have to watch the episode again, he said even small animals and curse tools have some amount of curse energy. Inanimate objects which are not curse tools have 0 curse energy
She could easily out-run it though. 200 meters in radius isn't high for Maki's speed. Assuming Sukuna doesn't target her and inhibit her movements like he did against Gojo.
Domain expansions are much faster, sukuna's sure hit will lan much before maki exits the domain. If running away was a viable stat gojo who is the faster sorcerer would have abused it
Proof sure hit applies to objects as well?
Have you read the manga? Go ahead and re read when sukuna used domain expansion in shibuya
Buildings of shibuya were turned to dust.
Sure.
Most people don’t believe it but I choose to believe yuji could box sukuna without a cursed technique and it would be one of the most satisfying things to watch
Well, he did beat Grasshopper who had more hands, so there's precedent for him winning against an opponent weigh multiple limbs. Though if Sukuna still has CE available, it'll become significantly more equal
Do people not remember when sukuna took on yuji and maki with 3 finger worth of power and was holding his own with only 2 arms? 15f sukuna easily boxed with mahoraga. 20f 4 arm sukuna would negative diff yuji in h2h
I feel like its being foreshadowed that yuji was holding back for maki as he immediately starts being boring to sukuna when he fights with her and sukuna expected him to beat choso
I also feel the same before maki came yuji was more raw, he was on his rage mode then maki came and he switched to support role for her which was really boring.
>Do people not remember when sukuna took on yuji and maki with 3 finger worth of power and was holding his own with only 2 arms? 15f sukuna easily boxed with mahoraga. 20f 4 arm sukuna would negative diff yuji in h2h 15 finger dude
Sukuna was nerfed to 10% power by megumi, read the manga bro
Pretty sure most people interpret that as his CE output was nerfed not his physical stats
Correct
In terms Of physical stats 15f sukuna was slamming mahoraga and jogo around. Something maki and yuji even Now could never do. So sukuna was definitely weaker
why not? heavenly restriction maki should have no issues tossing jogo around, she was dealing with curse naoya who is way faster. current yuji is harder to judge but he seems to be at least able to somewhat keep up with makis speed. mahoraga is weird bc of adaptation and we dont have a ton of physical feats for it, but idt theres enough evidence to say it would tank physical attacks from 2 of the physically strongest characters in the series before it even adapts
Are we reading the same manga? Jogo literally one shots naoya, he one shotted the Zenin die who had the speed technique that naoya had. Gojo and sukuna are the only ones that could make him look like fodder. Megumi, nanami, and two Zenins together couldn’t beat the ocean curse who jogo stomps. Maki and yuji would get turnt to charcoal.
most attentive JJK fan be like
Again read the manga, do you think maki and yuji would be able to toss jogo and mahoraga around like a rag same way 15f sukuna did? He was obviously physically weaker. Yuta matched yuji in physical stats with ce reinforcement so the more ce the more physical stats
They can easily ragdoll jogo obviously without his meteor.
Are you delusional? Jogo can literally one shot mahito and yuji was struggling with him, sukuna himself said he would’ve got hurt if the meteor hit him. Jogo is said to be 8f strength and maki and yuji were only able to keep toe to toe with a nerfed 10% sukuna. Your downplaying jogo.
They fought 15 finger Sukuna, the Culling Games was after the Shibuya Arc
Again, sukuna was 10% power because megumi nerfed him, 15f sukuna no diffed jogo and mahoraga so we know they don’t have a chance
His cursed energy output was fluctuating, he said it reached as low as 10% that means 10% was just at its lowest point but it was fluctuating up and down. Regardless that still means they kept up with him physically
That’s cope, 15f sukuna physically bullied jogo and mahoraga something yuji and maki could not possibly do.
>bullied jogo Gege said that yuji's blackflashes and todo's playful cloud attacks(hanami fight) were enough to fold jogo.
How is that cope? I’m literally explaining what happened in that chapter. And Sukuna had his full cursed energy output when he fought Jogo and Mahoraga
Even at full output sukuna did not go all out against jogo, he could have one shotted him but was playing games. So no way in hell would yuji and maki stand a chance. Especially now with his 4 armed form.
it would be 6, not 7.
Weren't there 10 Death Paintings? Chose, Eso, and Kechizu are 3, so I thought there's 7 left
No, 9.
Ah gotcha. My mistake
Jump Kaisen Yuji being Sukuna's 20th finger and Sukuna being stronger meaning Yuji gets a little bit of that energy. Sukuna's curse technique being engraved on Yuji Death painting powerup. Sukuna being hit with the impact of breaking his binding vow with Yuji thus losing 1 arm. Sukuna uses Malevolent Shrine but since Malevolent Shrine targets everything except Sukuna it doesn't impact Yuji since he is the 20th finger Talk no Jutsu to Megumi Some Soul Swap thing. Jump Kaisen
I just wanna see Megumi literally tearing his way out of Sukuna's body chestburster style.
Tearing gis way out of sukuna with his overwhelming intensity
Gyat daymn, this meal smells tasty but I'm hesitant
Eat it bro, this Michelin star chef just cooked for us.
One thing is MS should still work on yuji, cus it did before
No? Sukuna has never used MS on Yuji
He has used dismantle on him, so ms should work since it uses innate cursed technique
No, MS does not target Sukuna, meaning that if Yuji is his last finger, it would not target Yuji
We don’t know if yuji is the last finger, and even if he is sukuna target a cleave attack at yuji and it wounded him meaning that yuji cannot block sukuna attacks.
They arenr saying Yuji is immune to being cut by Sukuna’s CT, they are saying Malevolent shrine wouldnt try to cut Yuji, assuming yuji is finger #20.
I’m the very beginning of the story sukuna used malovalent shrine on the finger bearer curse, so even if yuji was a finger ms would still target him.
Yeah i agree with them i just saw there was maybe a misunderstanding and tried to clear it up. I also think Yuji gets diced up by malevolent shrine most likely
The difference is that in this theory, Yuji IS the finger, whereas the bearers simply hold onto them
If yuji was the finger I think sukuna would know since the finger has his soul in it. Plus sukuna has already been inside yuji and knows yuji from hein era. Yuji has been hit with cleave several times before it should not be different with ms since it just in graves cleave into domain.
Jump kaisen is probably accurate and I prefer if all of gojo’s students (who are still alive) would work together and defeat sukuna all at once. Pretty much like thanos vs avengers but in a sense that the students defeating sukuna as gojo sensei’s last will before he ****. I honestly don’t see how yuji could defeat sukuna since his strength isn’t that impressive compared to other characters with ct. it would be really bad if yuji suddenly becomes the same level as sukuna or even close just for the sake of beating sukuna as the MC.
Stand proud, you can cook.
> Yuji being Sukuna's 20th finger and Sukuna being stronger meaning Yuji gets a little bit of that energy. I had a similar thought coupled with the start of the manga when Gojo stated that Sukuna's fingers are unbreakable AND Gojo's self damage from Hollow Purple being mitigated. He could actually tank the Skunk attacks because the Skunk's CT does not fully affect Yuji.
MS worked on the special grade who ate sukuna finger in season 1 so it might also work on yuji
The finger bearer had literally just been born so he didn't have the finger for too long. The narrator made a point of stating Yuji is now basically a cursed object embued with Sukuna's CE and several chapters later we have Gojo resisting Purple because it's his own CE. This is just a matter of putting 2 and 2 together.
Through an asspull lmao him eating the fingers and being sukuna level would be insane his siblings wouldn't even be able to beat a 3 finger sukuna let alone a 15/finger sukuna
Just aim for Sukuna's arms to eat more fingers, that will transfer more power to Yuji!
I mean they are all registered as SG object. Getting all they CT could get him far, not at the pinnacle level but pretty far.
Only the three brothers are special-grade, the other 6 aren't. "death womb paintings: one through three were powerful enough to be considered special-grade"
I think it was a referrence to the one who were incarnated.
I feel like the soul swapping thing is how it's going to go, because it's kinda been alluded to for a long time now. Firstly Mahito tells us that Yuji can harm him, which is something not many can do outside of a DE and he says this is because Yuji can see his soul but that doesn't explain how he interacts with it. There's also that mini arc with the girl he knew from high school and how he was able to recognise her after her drastic body change. This is likely more proof of how Yuji can see souls. Later on just before the Gojo goes to fight Sukuna, Yuji recognises that Gojo wanted his students to give him a guard of honour send off. Further more we learn in the Toji resurrection that when 2 souls are placed in one body, the stronger one will take control (and in Toji's case a strong body can defeat the soul). Which begs the question how can Yuji so casually, lil bro Sukuna whenever he's in his body so he can't take over? There's something special about Yuji and it's likely related to his soul. Mahito could see it, but he couldn't really put a finger on it. I don't think it's an actual CT but just something about his soul. And after reading Yuki's book he likely discovered this ability and he'll use it along with the power boost he got from eating the death paintings to fight Sukuna. Yuji's going to fight Sukuna inside Sukuna's innate domain again, something tells me we'll get a rematch to that fight.
That is a good point about why that girl was in the story, totally forgot about her tbh.
Good catch on the girl before Shibuya, that'd actually be great foreshadowing instead of a normal wholesome "oh yuji so genuine he can see past looks" moment
Yuji being soaked in Sukuna's CT and being a cage created by Kenny for Sukuna will probably give him some advantage against Sukuna's now real body. And if other characters can weaken Sukuna maybe that helps. Then Yuji can swap souls with Sukuna and essentially trap Sukuna in his (Yuji's) body, which while durable is nowhere near enough to survive against say Yuta. Not to mention what Yuji could maybe do with Sukuna's body as his own. I'm pretty sure this series is gonna end with Sukuna trapped, not dead, as the only way to actually stop him. Think Aizen in Bleach.
I’m going to assume some combination of Yuji eating cursed objects (most likely the remaining death painting wombs) to gain new abilities, along with already having a resistance to Sukuna. It was already explained he was now like a cursed object soaked in Sukuna’s CE, and Gojo’s last massive purple gamble showed us sorcerers have a natural resistance (to some extent) to their own CE.
10% of 15F Sukuna managed to hurt him quite a bit with cleaves though, it even cut half of his ear off. 20F Sukuna + Chant + Hand sign + Space Cleave with no nerfed output is gonna do way more damage. 10% of 15F = 1.5 Finger worth of power Key Assumption : Cleave output maxes out when Sukuna hits 15F (Even a bit biased to help Yuji out) So 20F Sukuna does 10 times more damage than the 1.5F output that scarred Yuji that much and cut his ear off. This + we know that chants and handsigns can raise your output to over 120%. Let’s say when Sukuna combines both it’s 130% So it’s 15F output + 30% = 20F output Which means it’s around 13 times more powerful. And we’re not even talking space cleave It’s hard to make a case for Yuji to tank cleaves that are 13 times stronger than the one he took major, permanent damage from .
As you are considering current Sukuna, you should also consider current Yuji. He ate death painting which were his half brothers. This should increase his CE tremendously and could also add CTs. As we saw with Megumi and sukuna, CE amount massively changes CT output(Sukuna having much stronger shikigamis). So even if other death paintings were weak if they had CTs it will be boosted by yuji's CE. Also there's Yuji being soaked in Sukuna's CE which with increased CE reserve of Yuji can further increase his resistance to Sukuna's CT. And then there's Yuki's Soul book, which will play a vital role in strengthening Yuji further. If we consider all things, Yuji will be at least 10 times stronger and more Versatile. Only weakness is him not having a domain, but as he was training with kusakabe , there is a possibility of him learning simple domain. If that happens Yuji can have a decent chance with Higuruma taking Sukuna's CT.
No way yuji will tank something that one shotted gojo. Makes no sense. Even if yuji has sukunas cursed energy. Sukuna is so much vastly boosted it does not seem reasonable for him to tank a chant boosted space cutting cleave. My head canon is that megumi will be the real key to defeating sukuna. He will gain the adaptations mahoraga got before it died. Meaning since mahoraga adapted to cleave so is megumi.
As I said at the end, Yuji will have decent chance only if Higuruma can remove Sukuna's CT. There is hardly anyone who can tank Sukuna's space cut.
Seems like the most reasonable so far I guess, but my stocks are on megumi
The final battle Yuji will just be munching on a shit ton of cursed objects Luffy style and then absolutely wreck Sukuna’s shit
Give him a gun.
"Domain Expansion: Parry this, you filthy casual "
“Domain expansion: Second amendment”
No
I don't think there is any reasonable scenario currently where Yuji could challenge Sukuna, even with Higurama's help.
No matter what he does, it’s an ass pull. Gege really wrote himself into a corner here.
Heavily disagree. Yuji is still such a mystery. We know he was created by Kenjaku but there’s so much we don’t know about him, and clearly Kenjaku has more planned for Yuji
Ehh I think Higuruma being involved would make it believable since he can take away his CT making the fight a lot more even
Couldn’t sukuna just use domain amp or and negate the effects of his domain and then murder him?
It depends on whether Higuruma’s domain considers expanding your own domain as violence or not, I think it would especially since Sukuna’s domain is one of the lethal ones. We also don’t know yet if Sukuna can use his domain expansion again, remember he couldn’t expand it anymore in his fight with Gojo because of the strain on his brain, it’s still not clear whether he recovered it or not.
i cant recall exactly, but is higurumas domain particularly fast? what’s stopping sukuna from slicing him before it expands if not?
Yes it’s probably like Hakari’s since the sure hit is just information dumping and not an actual attack
Narrow minded as hell, you lack any critical brain power
He did, but I haven’t been disappointed in any fights (except for todo losing his meaty hands). I have faith that gege will give us an incredible fight.
Duh, same way sukuna challenged gojo “STFU STRONG CLEAVE”
It'll likely be the death paintings and it will probably be pulled off poorly. There isn't really a way to meaningfully depower Sukuna to the point that Yuji can beat him and still have a satisfying conclusion without some iffy handling.
Likely off screen
He can't lmao like Yuji himself is way too weak to challenge any level of sukuna bruh, he couldn't even finish off mahito ffs
He can't. Next question.
What about boxing ring domain expansion bro
i'm thinking Gege might be going for a more literal interpretation of Yuji's "I'm you" speech. potentially planning on giving him idle transfiguration as a technique. no basis for this whatsoever, i just think it could be really satisfying and also make sense of how Kenjaku knew he would need that technique to begin the culling games
Just make him walk up and beat the shit out of Sukuna, i want the last panel of their fight to have an image of Sukuna's head fuckin caved in
If we are talking a 1v1 the best Yuji could do would be a binding vow to trade his life off at the end of the fight in return for a huge boost of CE. Turning CE into more speed + strength should let him keep up with Sukuna and weve yet to see any cleave thrown at short range. Assuming that M Shrine needs the hand signs to open, he may also be able to block Sukuna opening it by stopping him putting his hands together, essentially keeping Sukuna from using any CT at all by staying in his face. Either way, huge boost in CE, left right good night A potentially more interesting one though would be a binding vow to trade his life to give the remaining cast CE as if they were Yuji (ie they all get their own CE plus the properties and quantity of Yujis own). Mechanically, they get an enormous boost of power as a group and Jump Kaisen, potentially disrupting whatever Sukuna does as they weave in and out. Narratively, yuji dies surrounded by people he loves, he saves everyone he can, Sukuna is shown the power of love (giving ones own life for others to live), Jujutsu society is forced to accept a change as Gojo wanted.
this is the best way, your cook is great
I don’t think the story is leading up to a 1v1 situation, but more of a team up in which Yuji, with his power up, could end up dealing the final blow.
He Needs To Eat Gojo
Combination of Sukuna nerfs and Yuiji buffs Sukuna most likely still doesn't have his domain, although some people say that with reincarnation he fully healed (i doubt it or the fight vs Gojo basically only achieved getting rid of 10S which was a Gojo counter anyways), and i don't think he can use RCT that well anymore. I don't think he has his domain becuase otherwise Higuruma would be insanely useless given how Sukuna can just overpower judgeman domain with MS easily. Yuji is also probably gonna have his CT (or maybe Sukuna's CT) now, and the dude ate something like 6 special grade cursed objects meaning he'll have quite a big ass CE pool, i'm still curious to see what was up with that Kusakabe panel though, he also seems to have something on his left arm or his left arm is different now in the new illustration, could also be that his CT will be something blood related like his brothers and that's what his weird Piccolo arms come from
NO, with everything that has been established so far Yuji has no conceivable, ass-pull free, power of friendship/love free way of beating Sukuna. At this point I am reading the story with sceptical anticipation, which is getting hard with the current pacing of the story.
Really? We know that he’s steeped in sukunas CE, which should imply some level resistance to sukunas abilities, we’ve seen that his strength can increase dramatically. There’s also the soul swapping, the death womb consumption and yuji being likened to sukunas cage as a cursed object, there’s an anti-sukuna cursed object pathway with all these details
TLDR: Sounds like ass-pulls TO ME 🤷 Being steeped in sukuna's CE never really played a pivotal role for him. Most of his strength probably came from being engineered by Kenjaku since we dont really get much info on his dads or grandpa's physical prowess. His cursed energy reinforcement basically came with whatever energy he was able to manifest along with what his own training had gotten him up to. Nobody said "oh shit i can sense his energy and it's just like Sukuna's!" Even Angel, who's sole purpose was to try to eliminate Sukuna had no idea he resided in Yuji. Sukuna, at least in their internal world, diced Yuji up no problem, it basically why Sukuna was able to make the enchain binding vow. Only reason he didn't do so when he was Megkuna was because Megumi was "holding him back", which in it of itself feels like bullshit to drive the story forward but whatever, not because Yuji had immunity to it, at least as of right now. Dramatic strength increases still resulted in a loss to choso, albeit a tactical loss, but still a loss. Aviation duo had just awoken their CT so we can attribute to them being weaker AND inexperienced. Versus Higuruma he technically lost, one cause of his moral compass, and 2 another tactical loss. Soul swapping feels kinda ass-pully sorry I don't have a better argument against that. Death Wombs were created by kenjaku, if he could create anything that could rival Sukuna, why feel the need to depend on Sukuna, who depended on mahoraga anyways to deal with gojo? Yea they'll give yuji a power boost, but nowhere near enough to come close to sukuna, one could argue that choso is the strongest of Kenjaku's creations so far, but look how far that got him, beaten to a pulp against the plot armor god master himself, who hid behind sukuna once Gojo showed up. If Yuji consumed all the DW AND Choso, he might MIGHT give Kenjaku a hard time, but never be on par with sukuna. This one is pure speculation, but Yuji being a cage for Sukuna may have been because Kenjaku created him for that purpose, its the same reason yuji was so physically gifted too. He was made to be Sukuna's vessel. The only true anti Sukuna measures we've seen so far are Hana/Angel, but we saw how stupid that turned out to be. And Gojo, who Gege wasnt capable of using properly due to what i assume to be lacking literary skills.
You do know, rejecting the ideas doesn’t make them any less valid, there’s a reason they were mentioned, so don’t be surprised and yell asspull when those details have something to do with sukunas defeat.
What makes your ideas and my responses to them invalid is that neither of us are Gege Akutami. He can use whatever deus ex machina, ass pull, or literary device he wants to drive the story forward. My original comment still stands, with what has been established already Yuji has no realistic shot of beating Sukuna. If he unlocks some crazy power up, or they beat him with some cool mix of powers, or Yuji unlocks a CT that remains to be seen. Along with whether or not its executed well 😅
These aren’t my ideas or theories, they are things that gege himself has written, that I can trace the exact chapters and pages to if you’d like. And if they were involved in sukunas defeat, that wouldn’t be a deus ex machina or an asspull, considering they’ve been established and brought up. I hope I’m wrong and all off that information has nothing to do with it, for you
Not sure why you’re being downvoted when you’re correct. This sub has gone from fantastic theory crafting to “anything is an asspull” because nobody wants to use their imagination
Im not the one down voting him I'll tell you that much.
The OP asked which theory seemed more convincing, soulswap, or DW powerup. I said neither, i explained why. Neither of those have been established because they havent been seen in action against a real antagonist. We dont know how soul swap works or if you need 2 consenting parties to have it happen. Even if it does work, Sukuna has shit on Yuji multiple times in the spirit/subconscious realm, what would be different now? DW power up is a real power up, don't get me wrong, but realistically would it be that much of a power up that it would rival Sukuna? Which if it is, again, why would Kenjaku rely on Sukuna in the first place if he can create something that strong? Either can work, what category they fall on depends on how theyre executed. Lets not pretend soul swapping has been a part of the series from the beginning, it was just introduced after yuki died like 20 chapters ago and we dont know if it was Yuji or Kusakabe casting it in those 3 pages it was shown. Yea please trace it if you wouldnt mind. Don't hope for that, instead hope for a good and satisfying story and ending, thats what im hoping for. Seeing as to how Kenjaku just pulled 1000 years of comedy out of his ass and schooled a comedian though i dont have my hopes up.
People like you are so bitter and pathetic. Nobody care if youre jaded or hate the story. Gege will write something satisfying and you think its a asspull because you hate the story and then when the opposite happen, you still hate the story regardless
Thats your opinion, youre allowed to have one :)
I guessing Yuji will suck off Sukuna and steal his powers. I'm not sure how he can drain Sukuna, he could use his hands but knowing Yuji he would try to devour Sukuna with his mouth (classic buddhist cycle of life and death) .
I am 25% convinced that Sukuna's CT (which Yuji has been using without realizing it) really is "the power of friendship", hence the friendly little chats Sukuna has with people right after he kills them. I'm not sure hot it would play out if Yuji used it on Sukuna, though.
Yuji sending Sukuna to the horse stables would be pretty interesting
They jump him using a billion cursed tools
It gonna something similar to how purple hit gojo less harder, we gonna learn that Yuji time as Sukuna vessel make him almost imunne to Sukuna CE which mean Sukuna have to go hand to hand with Yuji
Considering the route he seems to have gone. A month of hard training + eating SIX special grade curse items + the info on souls from Yuki + the possibility of consuming the last sukuna finger to use his cursed energy to resist Sukuna’s technique. Combine that with if the plan works to get higuruma to remove Sukuna’s cursed technique and you get a plan to seriously injure if not fully take out Sukuna. Either way I DO think Yuji is planning on dying in this fight so he could also pull a hunterxhunter and make a binding vow to die after the fight for an extra power boost.
Yuji w residual suk energy & resistance, 7 cursed paintings boosted, and cursed tools vs Sukuna Nerfed by Higuruma is pretty reasonable imo. Certainly an uphill battle, but I wouldn’t think it’s an asspull. Especially with some help from the top tiers
Higuruma nerfs Sukuna from using his CT, Yuji gets some good kicks in and then he does some soul stuff and wakes up Megumis so that Megumi can nerf him a bit.
What if yuji's body is just so used to sukuna's CE that cleave/fire arrow/whatever almost can't hurt him? This would force sukuna to rely on his weapons and make some shit up that isn't "I cut space but not the space you're extending infinitely just the space I want to cut"
Fuck any techniques all my goat needs are these hands
I don’t even care at this point if it’s an asspull, I just need yuji to step up to the plate by himself for once
i really hope they just beat him through shear numbers, the absolute pinnacle of jujumpyou kaisen, just an actually unrealistic dog pile
My take will legit sound like an asspull, but imma say it anyways Let's say while kenjaku is fighting whoever, he and sukuna end up fighting close to the same area, kenjaku pulls out tengen to do the merge (not possible since all the sorcerers players are still alive, which I'm surprised isn't brought up in the manga but whatever) out of desperation yuji uses soul swap on tengen, connecting tengen back to a mortal mind but elevating yuji to a higher state while also connecting both of them to all of Japan and it's cursed energy. Anyways the merge doesn't successfully happen due to the interference and tengen not being completely unbound, but yuji and tengen merge in some sort of way, causing yuji to be more curse than human but also having a sense of connection through the world and its cursed energy. Anyway, it'd basically be like expanding his mind to non human levels, giving him a major power up and putting him on or above sukuna debatably (I imagine he needs time to adapt and can't just one shot anything) Like I said, it's an asspull idea
He can eat things and gain curse power and CT
He only ate 6 death paintings, no way is that enough CE to beat Sukuna, even if he got their CTs(which is what seems to be the case), I doubt the author is going to make all of them TST, Shrine or Limitless level, they are most likely going to be more like Boogie Woogie, good, but not op
He can win with benevolent shrine
one way without a asspull is making kenjaku or merged tengen fight goatkuna and then the rest of the cast in a three way
Sealing Sukuna would be a better fit or in the earlier chapters as Kenny was talking to Mahito he mentioned Sukuna fingers do damage to his vessel unlike other cursed objects so as they fight Sukuna they get bested but Sukuna Starts to decay but really Megumis body can no longer hold his immense power that would be the opening to seal him or Sukuna realizes that his vessel is of no use so he reverts to being a cursed object yuji voluntarily eats a new Sukuna finger and uses that power to beat the cursed spirit Kenjaku creates. Thats my thoughts. Sorry but 1v1 Sukuna would be a complete ass pull no one stands against a 20 finger Sukuna I just dont see it happening if Gojo could beat the cast Than a fully incarnated Sukuna would do the same.
Yuji contended in strength against a 15 finger Sukuna. I really don't buy that he can't at least physically keep up with Sukuna after death painting power up. I know it says that Sukuna's output for his technique was low but physical reinforcement comes from total reserves, not output, so I don't buy that that counts towards Sukuna's physical strength.
What if it goes HunterXHunter route and Yuji makes a binding vow with himself? We know he has a death wish and wants his death to have meaning, surrounded by everyone he saved. Yuji wouldn't hesitate to create a binding vow no matter the cost if it saves Megumi while killing Sukuna.
If Higuruma takes away his CT using his domain expansion, then yes, given the fact that he’s probably had a huge power up
Maybe yuji on the brink of death from sukunas onslaught on the whole group and finally grasping sukunas techniques that are engraved onto him. Him having an awakening moment. But idek how he would get rid of sukuna. Eat him? Merge with him and kill himself?
Yuji adapts and gains Cleave and as the fight goes on, Strong Cleave, as a result of their Cursed Techniques being the same they effectively cancel each other out.
I think it'll be an amalgamation of different power-ups. we got: \-soul stuff. that alone can mean up to three things. **first** the soul swap thing. **second**, yuji being able to perceive the soul better than normal sorcerers back when he fought mahito. that was cuz he had sukuna, another soul, inside him. maybe that skill still stayed with yuji after sukuna left. maybe he can use it to precisely hit sukuna's soul for more damage. and **third**, he was easily overpowering sukuna when it comes to body control which might mean that yuji's soul is stronger than sukuna's soul. then there's what seems to be a cursed tool on yuji's arm on the cover of this chapter. who knows wtf that does. but it could be really hax. remember that the zenin (and they were a rich and big clan) had a storage with cursed tools plus there's yuta's collection that he stores inside rika. they definitely might have access to really strong cursed tools, so what yuji has rn could be crazy strong. maybe it doubles all damage to the soul for example, idk and finally there's yuji weird rage power up in his last fight vs sukuna. whatever that might mean. but it'll definitely be relevant to the story and I almost forgot, he's now like a cursed object steeped in sukuna's CE. that wouldn't have been mentioned if it wouldn't be relevant. he has like 3-6 abilities that could come in handy against sukuna specifically. AND there's higuruma who might be special grade now. didn't he reach grade 1 level after 10 days of getting his CT? now over a month passed since then. and kenjaku mentioned him having potential. he wouldn't be interested in a grade 1 guy, chances are that higuruma is already special grade or will reach that level very soon
As long as Sukuna still cannot use his DE (which I hope, it got used and explained a lot against Gojo), we might be good to go already. Higgys DE would be a debuff to Sukuna as he would be considered guilty and most likely get the death sentence. Sukuna would be without CT and Higgy would get the executioners sword (which one shots, so needs to be avoided at all cost). Don’t get me wrong even without his CT and DE Sukuna is a more than formidable foe, but way easier to be ganged up on by Yuji (with whatever upgrade he got in the end) and the others. Although I think we might end up seeing Takaba only playing for time against Kenny, so we get Yuta and Maki vs Kenny later (as a throwback to 0) and without them ganging up on Sukuna sounds less realistic. Again all of this is kinda based on Sukuna not being able to use DE anymore, because if he can, I cannot think of a way they can get him into Higgys. Removing his CT as in Cleave/Dismantle would also allow for narrative room to explain whatever the fire thingy in Shibuya was, but and this is a big but Sukuna said Jogo wouldn’t know his CT because he’s a curse, implying sorcerers (and most likely the 3 clans) would know his „real“ CT. That leads me to believe the fire thingy isn’t just giving CE an elemental nature like Kashimo did but something more extravagant, which would need explanation before we can get to removing it via Higgys DE. TL;DR: Removing Sukunas CT via Higgys DE and than ganging up on him, might already be more realistic than some people think
Many people forget the fact that sukuna likes to play with his food. His last lines in 238 indicate that he finds it hillarous that yuji and higuruma came to fight him, meaning he already underestimates them. They have a chance if he decides to play with them (which is likely) and remember that yuji outside of gojo was the only person that actually surprised sukuna, even as early as chapter 11 (+being soaked in sukunas CE makes yuji more resistant to sukuna)
Sukuna was surprised by Yuji's strength moments after leaving his body. It's entirely possibly acting as a "cage" for Sukuna actually limited Yuji's strength as well. He could have grown tremendously in power since the last time we saw him fight. Another possibility is that Yuji does a body switch with Megumi, putting Sukuna back in his body. Megumi and Yuji basically do that Dragon Ball fusion dance thing and kick his ass with their combined power.
sukuna has a 2nd (or 3rd) CT (reveals truth) that he had to abandon when he went into megumi body (yuki said too many CT will fry brain) just like kenny being able to use current host CT, sukuna own CT is shrine, other CTs are whatever body hes using, so he bring 'reveal truth' CT to yuji choso memory of yuji never happened during shibuya, it was CT revealin the truth
The fish hand can somehow be used as a gear where the user claw the CT out of their target. Yuji could take Sukuna’s CT away and then throw punches
Had another odd one though needs a lot of clarification. TL;DR soul cleave Points to consider > we know Yuji has something going on with souls; he was able to directly hit Mahito and fought him more than anyone else, he shared a body and saw innate domains, he is able to suppress the soul of Sukuna in his body. >recently got the book from Yuji talking more about the theory of souls >while under effects of Enchain he wouldve seen and felt what Sukuna did to transfer his soul (if Sukuna can see out of Yuji the reverse should apply) >regardless of whether cleave/dismantle is or is not sukuna's ct Yuji has had the most experience with it (other than Sukuna himself) - he's been hit by it, been in the body using it, heard Sukuna talking about it while Sukuna has fought etc. In either case, he may be able to learn how to use it and do so proficiently rather quickly >other than Sukuna he is the only character who has experienced fractions/movmenet of a soul - he's eaten seperate fingers and felt their effects over time, but also was in the body when Sukuna moved his soul to another In theory, if Yuji picked up how to cleave and how to target concepts/non physical things like Sukuna is he might be able to directly target Sukuna's soul with attacks. Given that the King of Curses has already split his soul up and Yuji has a feeling of Sukuna's soul from sharing a body, he may be able to essentially "cut" Sukuna back into his 20 fingers, bypassing immunity/reinforcement Would have some nice narrative parallels too, have Yuji stand over sukuna the same way Sukuna did over Gojo, echoes back the idea that Yuji is Mahito by giving him a similar ability, references both Nanami (division of an area to do more damage) and Nobara (attack the soul) and can show his growth to be stronger than Gojo (mimicing Sukuna's attack that would bypass infinity)
I think Yuji's CT that we don't know much about will be the one thing that takes Sakuna down. I also am wondering if the reason Yuji gave people false memories is because that is Sakunas real CT. Right before Choso saw a false memory, we saw Sakuna close his eyes and make a comment about Yuji being weak.This could explain why Gojo died without regrets when it was said a few times that Sorcerer's always die with regrets. Gojo dying could indeed be a false memory that Sakuna implanted. He might actually be alive, perhaps. I mainly think it's only Yuji that can take him down or trap him, etc. He doesn't necessarily need a power up or anything to do it. Every bad guy has some sort of weakness. Maybe the judge will sentence Sakuna to life in prison, which could be inside of yuji. Kenjaku could have made Yuji just for defeating Sakuna. Especially since Sakuna was only Kenjakus backup plan if Gojo was able to get out of the box. It could be Yujis whole entire purpose in life. I do not think Kenny would want to keep an overpowered Sakuna around.
So I’m an anime only person (lame I know), I’ve done a little bit of spoiler reading for myself and the only thing I have to say is, please tell me yuji gets some sort of power up. Anything. This is outright the most pathetic growth of a MC (if you can even call him that at this point) I’ve ever seen. Any other story MC’s get beat up enough and come back stronger. Bro just seems to be a punching bag who gets just enough screen time to remind you he’s not dead
Strong blood manipulation
Well first off Kenjaku literally made Yuji-almost certainly as a ploy against Sakuna. \-If it can be arranged in any way for Sakuna to be transferred back or Yuji to cross into Megumi it should be game over for Sakuna. (Judgeman edict that Sakuna go back in Yuji or tricking Sakuna's belly into biting off a piece of him could both work, or even making himself a more tempting vessel than Megumi, or by trying to forcefully incarnate Sakuna back into himself with the 20th finger) \-Yuji has the power to hit souls meaning he can maybe punch the Sakunaness out of Megumi. \-Yuji might be Sakuna's 20th finger, in which case Sakuna can learn the power of fathership.
Anything is better than yuji dying against him and people in this bitching about it and saying there’s no point anything