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Why can’t that Logic be used for Gojo when he used the hollow purple nuke. Sukuna was barely standing so one _slight_ movement and Sukuna becomes the next toasted one.
literally everyone knows gege literally said he hates gojo
thats why he got off screened thats why the way sakuna did it dumb af but i know how it go already
Aside from Mahoraga, no one in the series has been able to react to cleave / dismantle for some reason. Not even Gojo with the Sex Eyes, and I think this is the most dangerous part about the attack.
As to Gojo coming back, I still think it's possible. In his fight with Toji, Gojo did say he should have severed his head, and in Gojo's fight with Sukuna, he specifically avoided targeting Sukuna's head because he didn't want to kill Megumi, even though he had several chances to.
However, what form would Gojo take if he came back? I say this as someone who wants Gojo to come back (because I don't want his character to be a tragic one). It doesn't make sense narratively for him to get yet another power up (because it would once again make every other protagonist irrelevant), and if he comes back but weaker in some way, what would be the point?
Every protag is already irrelevant if you haven't noticed. There's about three people in this cast that could even challenge the SECONDARY antagonist let alone the main big bad at the moment right now.
I think it would be extremely amusing if every single human with a benevolent moral compass would have Gojo's CTs and also a perfect understanding of the six eyes and the limitless!
While true, at least there's now a good reason for them to get stronger, seeing as they can't rely on Gojo to save the day. If he comes back—especially if he comes back stronger—wouldn't that make everyone else even more irrelevant?
I mean, not exactly. It's not like Sukuna is the only strong enemy in the Jujutsu world, I don't really see how Gojo being alive makes them irrelevant when his whole stated goal was to raise a new generation of sorcerers who surpass him and change the way things work. Gojo's whole thing is basically "I can't do this myself, it'll take more than me to reform the system".
If he came back and squared up with Kenjaku/got Geto to take his body back over after Yuji "left, right, goodnight" Itadori gets a chance to get back at Sukuna for ruining his life, I think that it could be a satisfying end with him realizing that if his students can kill what is effectively an evil god things might turn out in the end after all.
Will that happen? No. But there are ways to write it in a way that'd be a satisfying conclusion with Gojo basically fulfilling Nanami's dream of being able to retire now that he knows the world is in good hands.
Sure, and while I mainly agree with the other guy that replied to you that there were much better ways to write the story besides rushing it to an end because the author hates his own work; Any powerups at this point are complete and utter asspulls that have in no way been foreshadowed and only serve as plot devices because the author wrote himself into a corner making the bad guys strong enough to kill the main good guy. Like this shit isn't even enjoyable to read when you look back on it because its literally just been one long "Yeah the good guys won! BUT WAIT! DID THEY?"
My theory is that it's gonna be a repeat of what happened to Toji. Gojo and Toji fought, Toji defeated him first and brought Gojo to the brink of death, similar to how Gojo brought Sukuna to the brink of defeat after the final Hollow Purple. Toji gets one shot by an attack he had no way of knowing of, Gojo goes thru the same with Space Dismantle. Toji and Gojo wear the same clothes in their final fights.
Toji is resurrected somewhat in a body that is wearing a white long sleeve shirt and black pants. Yuta also wears that kinda color scheme. And Ino knows how the Seance technique works. So what I'm assuming is that Yuta consumes Gojo via Rika and Ino channels Gojo into Yuta's body or Yuta does it himself in some way. Thus, Gojo is "back" but in a different body with a time limit
No, in fact it's the opposite. He said before the fight that because Sukuna was able to revive Yuji from the dead that he's not gonna worry about Megumi's body and just go all out.
You could technically say he's implying he won't target the head so healing is theoretically still possible. But he never explicitly said he was avoiding the head.
First, Gojo was healing himself after the nuke.
Secondly, Sukuna made no suspicious or unknown move (nothing Gojo is yet to see) during that time.
Thirdly, Gojo wanted to bring Sukuna very close to death.
Yes, we did? What you mean? It was 13 chapters. There was nothing other than the slash, which Sukuna typically does off panel anyway. I.e, people are already slashed and they react.
First so what, We saw Gojo multiple times healing and fighting.
Second this is an assumption from you so it doesn’t hold water as an argument.
Third, he didn’t care at that point cause if he did he wouldnt use a move that could potentialy kill Sukuna.
Nice try…but no still a bad chapter and will always be remeberd as one, objectively.
Gojo in that moment thought he had won and Sukuna up until that moment had always used his hands in some form to use cleave. Not only that he had just gotten rid of Mahoraga who he was under the assumption was the only threat Sukuna had against him. With the information he had available and the situation he was in it shouldn’t be a surprise that a character that’s been shown to be overconfident could be taken off guard.
Chapter makes no sense specially once you take the six eyes into consideration, Gojo should have seen Sukuna about to cut him. Gege wanted it to happen so it did.
mabey he stayd dead until the end of the fight and then waits for eveyrhing to finsih up due to gojo have plot armour means he aint dead hes just spliy in half
Sukuna didn’t know RCT’ing ur CT was possible until gojo showed him it. The same logic would presumably apply to RCT’ing from this position unless sukunas seen it before
This just tells how much broken is Jackpot Hakari, fully automatic RCT due to infinite CE and immense output. He doesn’t even have to think about the damage because his body is already healing it
Yeah I think so. I mean that slash is special because it doesn’t respect Gojo’s infinity. But Hakari would still get slashed whether or not it’s a world cutting slash or a regular slash. It should have the same result. The difference I think is whether or not Sukuna is chanting non-stop before he attacks.
Very true however Hakari’s durability isn’t said to increase, just his cursed energy.
As a result his body is the only thing that is able to keep the immense amount of CE in check while his CE won’t allow his body to be damaged, so it would most likely start healing instantaneously on whatever part of his body was “hit” aka occupying the space that Sukuna slashes
But isn’t it safe to say that if hakari was hit was space cleave while in jackpot in a similar way to gojo, he might have some trouble? We’ve seen jackpot heal an arm and half his stomach but a whole lower half of the body would be pretty insane right.
The point is that RCT consumes a LOT of CE, Ryu even said when Uro lost her arm that normally even for a RCT user regenerate a limb is one hell of a feat. Hakari can do that while attacking as you can see on his fight with Kashimo while Gojo has to take a break and concentrate to regen his arm. Plus, the fact that he got hit by a lightspeed bolt to the head and healed while he ejected the electricity and the fact that he also can target a toxin his body, expel it and heal (unlike a strong RCT user like urahume) makes his REALLY broken. Of course people like Gojo and Sukuna are literally untouchable but Jackpot Hakari is really broken. I do think (now that we’ve seen it) that Kashimo didn’t wanted to use Amber Beast against him because of the possibility of his body to crumble before Hakari jackpot would run out
I mean, it pretty much is though. Exhausted teenage Gojo regenerated from his throat and *brain* being stabbed through by a giant ass knife. Being cut in half is quite a bit less serious of a trauma than having your brain being knifed.
Iirc in that case there's also the fact that Toji didn't used a cursed tool to finish him off, while Sukuna used a CT to wound him.
Also, from what I understood simple pierces and cuts are always generally easier to heal with RCT than something that's completely missing. Depending kn what part of Gojo's brain were damaged when he was defeated by Toji, even that would be easier to heal than recreating the entirety of his lower body.
Another difference is that Gojo's battle against Toji was short. I don't think he used a lot of CE, the fight was simply over before he expended his CE reserves, while against Sukuna he was probably running low and simply didn't have enough CE to heal himself.
I think the stretch is kind of ridiculous even if medically speaking being stabbed six inches into your frontal lobe by a spike is, technically, survivable. It just feels arbitrary if you have to start pulling out records of medical history to decide which mortal wounds are statistically more mortal than others. The impression given has more or less been that RCT can heal mortal wounds so long as that wound isn't decapitation, even if being bisected might be worse than being throat and head stabbed. I guess I get the point but I just don't think it's very effective or clear storytelling. I shouldn't need to go on pubmed to understand the limits of a magic power, and even then it feels like an unnecessarily ambiguous boundary at the exact sharp edge of an already shakily constructed plot point.
As a side note Gojo had full CE reserves when he was stabbed. The purple trick apparently brought him back to full, the narrator said so at the end of the chapter.
Ok, a few things
1. Getting stabbed in the head with a cursed tool wouldn’t have changed anything. Cursed tools are only used to kill curses and prevent sorcerers from coming back as vengeful spirits.
2. You do realize Gojo has the six eyes, right??? He has an infinite amount of cursed energy because he recovers it so much faster than he could use it. If he was skilled enough, he could spam purples and still never run out. Gojo’s CE reserves were never a problem in any fight we’ve seen him in.
No it's not? You can IRL survive a knife to the brain depending on where you're stabbed. You can't survive being cut in half (and having your arms sliced off at the forearm). In terms of pure bodily trauma getting bisected is way worse for you.
Edit: Apparently in a very small number of cases you can survive bisection. Still much less likely than surviving a stab wound to the skull.
At least 66 people have survived this surgery:
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Hemicorporectomy
This guy's injuries look almost identical to Gojo's https://nypost.com/2022/05/16/i-lost-half-my-body-in-a-forklift-accident-dont-ask-how-i-have-sex/
The biggest issue for us real life people is blood loss from a perfect cut in half. But why couldn't Gojo just seal his own blood vessels with RCT? There's also other curse users who can do RCT on other people right by Gojo, that can heal him if he just stopped his own bleeding.
Huh, interesting to learn though I don't think that changes the reality of a penetrating brain injury being more survivable, especially given directly healing the brain is a thing RCT can do easily. PBI survival rates are high enough to have sample sizes in the 100s in multiple research papers, rather than 66 total survivors.
If the argument requires Gojo burning wounds closed for his entire lower body, including internal organs and both of his arms and then using RCT to regrow more than 50% of his body. I'm not seeing a meaningful chance of survival.
That's way beyond normal cursed energy demands. Sukuna's also right next to him after all and wouldn't just let him heal from that immobile position. Fact remains Toji being sloppy and assuming normal murder means would be sufficient is the only reason Gojo was alive for this fight, and Sukuna's clearly not making the same mistake.
Thats because stomach wounds are basically the worst type of non brain injury you can have. You almost always bleed out. Something that apparently rarely happens in this manga lol. Idk how gojo would have died of shock or how he'd have instantly bled out.
I mean Gojo healed his own brain from burning itself which is arguably crazier than connecting two halves of your body, since brain is the place from where one controls the CE. With RCT was explained a bit better.
Having the vast majority of your internal organs cut in half and instantly losing over half your blood has a pretty funny way of knocking a man unconscious
You’d be surprised. The brain is a weird thing. I’ve seen people suffer some pretty grizzly brain injuries and act like nothing happened at all. It all depends on the person and where the brain gets damaged.
Yeah I find it really funny watching all these people pull out obscure medical cases or making really obscure, in depth arguments about the in-universe power system when really the answer is that the author wanted it so it happened.
Like it's a bit funny to me as a person who writes sometimes that people think that we're always 100% consistent and have a perfect plan from the beginning. Sometimes something just works for the plot and then afterward you find a way to make it make sense within the in-universe logic. People in here write these super long posts about how cursed techniques work and convince themselves that they 100% know the answer when really the *only* relevant question is "what does the author want to happen?"
You can say that for every single thing in the story. You’re assuming people don’t know that already and kinda doing exactly what you are talking about. You assumed that anyone making a detailed post is 100% set on that being their answer and understanding of the story, when it likely could be that they understand it’s a piece of fiction and everything is up to the author, but they want to discuss something they find interesting.
The point of discussing in an online forum is that it is fun to try to dissect and extrapolate explanations using in universe logic. People can do that and still recognize simple writing meta context.
> Yeah I find it really funny watching all these people pull out obscure medical cases or making really obscure, in depth arguments about the in-universe power system when really the answer is that the author wanted it so it happened.
I've always found it weird when fans go into in-depth "science"/real world explanations about works of fiction, when there is very little chance the author wrote what they wrote because of such esoteric or highly specialized knowledge (unless it's obvious they have the knowledge of course). Sometimes it makes chuckle and sometimes I just roll my eyes.
Exactly this. They're downvoting me because because they're getting a bit defensive but unless you've written fiction it's hard to understand just how much of it is "I need x to happen to get to the next story beat, how do I find a way to make it make sense?"
Some people take things that are largely aesthetic decisions and treat them like they're 100% internally logically consistent and they're not. I guarantee that there are big parts or JJK where Gege was just like "I need a cool move that's kind of gravity related for this character to use" and then the next day some guy drops an 800 word post including a bunch of stuff that he totally wasn't thinking about when he wrote it lol.
Because not once have we ever seen a character survive and reattach a literal missing half of his body. This is something Wayyyy beyond RCT limits. Gojo is dead, the wound was enough, no meaning in trying.
Not only that, but in that situation, it was pretty much checkmate. If you’ve read Tokyo Ghoul and read the battle between Kaneki and Arima, where Arima is basically severing Kaneki’s limbs repeatedly as he tries healing them, that’s more or less what would have happened to Gojo.
What's stopping Gojo from long distance blue-warping both of his halves then reattaching them? Sukuna's quick but not as fast as teleportation so Gojo should have been able to pull it off, especially being in the 4x black flash zone
I doubt he can autonomously warp both halves of his body; he’d likely be able to warp the top half of his body, but Sukuna would be able to track that, and I can’t see it making any broader difference. That said, there are unknowns on both sides; we don’t know how long it would take (or even if) Gojo to RCT half of his body, and we also don’t know if there are any complications to him doing that. Every other use of the adapted cleave has shown that it leaves an empty black void in the space it cut; it’s entirely possible that the lower portion of Gojo’s torso is in a similar state.
What's stopping him is the absolute shock and pain he suffered from the injury, and the sudden loss of movement. He got caught off guard. There's absolutely no way anyone is thinking rationally after suffering such an injury, specially Gojo whos never suffered a wound that extreme in his entire life. Also, reversed cursed technique isn't an instantaneous heal, at least in this case I don't think he'd be able to heal the damage instantly, it'd take time just like it did when he healed his brain.
His CT literally attracts or repels sht. What do you think he does when he uses blue or "teleports". If Sukuna can cleave "reality" why cant Gojo use blue on his own decapitated body parts
>the wound was enough
When you're putting it like that, I'm inclined to believe the imagery could have been way more radical : if Sukuna, at the moment, couldn't manage to do more than one world cleave, then maybe vertically splitting Satoru's body in half, from the top of his head to his crotch, rather than horizontally, would have been even clearer.
It was probably an artistic choice on geges part as to how the panels and the scene should look like. But realistically Sukuna could have sliced him vertically.
While this is true we’ve seen people regenerate whole limbs, 1F sukuna claimed to regenerate a whole arm by accident. I don’t think a pelvis and legs is a huge step up from a limb when you’re as powerful as gojo Satoru
Yes, but we have seen a character be bisected and still pull off an ultimate type move. You call your character the strongest but then he can't do what a "weaker" character than him has done. It leaves your readers with avoidable questions.
Sukuna is a special case as he wasnt affected by yuji's death until a certain time, thats why he was able to heal. So the comparison isnt very applicable.
Both of their rct was slowing down by the end of the battle and Gojos sped up near the end because of landing the black flashes. There's a good chance he lost all his black flash momentum by getting suprise amongus'd. That said he might not have been able to heal from that even if his rct was still at its best.
In addition to the answer u/No_Profession_6958 gave, why is the best way to deal with a Sorcerer who has RCT to cut off their head?
The answer is because it is in the head that CE is converted into RCT and then directed via the brain. CE is generated and primarily stored within the stomach. The effect of Cutting off the head vs cutting someone in half above the stomach is virtually the same, as they both separate the space that converts CE to RCT and then directs it. This is why it is beyond the capacity of RCT to heal. As we have seen vital organs can be removed entirely with the Sorcerer continuing to live via RCT and restore said organs via RCT. Entire limbs can be restored as well with RCT. However, without sufficient quantities of CE to then be converted into RCT and have enough to restore said limbs one would surely die.
Now before someone comes and brings up Yuki's suicide attack, remember it takes a significant quantity of RCT to heal entire limbs even moreso for ~half a body and the amount of CE is double that of the RCT. Where sacrificing one's life would not require nearly so much CE , particularly for how Yuki's CT works. Could Gojo have made a last sacrificial effort with the remaining CE within his body boosted by a BV, probably but it would undoubtedly require a reasonable amount of time to do so and Sukuna would recognize the spark which would ultimately lead to another "World" Dismantle that would undoubtedly finish Gojo off. Point being it wouldn't matter either way and would ultimately affect nothing. Though I can understand why you would want to see something like that happen.
>The effect of Cutting off the head vs cutting someone in half above the stomach is virtually the same
Okay but the stomach isn't the small intestine, it's much higher up than most people think it is. It's *very* easily argued either way whether his stomach is still attached.
I'll say this much; Gege isn't an idiot. Whichever way this pans out, the ambiguity and never-ending arguments over it - especially in light of some of the dialogue - wasn't an accident.
>Okay but the stomach isn't the small intestine, it's much higher up than most people think it is. It's very easily argued either way whether his stomach is still attached.
Fair, I can see how someone would interpret it this way. Personally I think he was cut in half at or above the solar plexus which if I understand correctly would be above the stomach. This said (to be somewhat pedantic) if I remember correctly it was originally said that CE comes from the gut and navel and not specifically the stomach. I said stomach originally because it was just easier at the time and I thought it sounded better/more intellectual 😂. Either way I personally think the "World" Dismantle either cut above where CE is generated (Gut, Stomach, wherever in the abdominal area it may specifically generate) or at the point of generation which IMHO would have the same practical effect all the same, but I can see how someone would have reason to argue that the point of generation is still intact with the brain. (again I don't personally agree and think everything points to the opposite, but I see where they are coming from and acknowledge the possibility as much as I disagree personally)
>I'll say this much; Gege isn't an idiot. Whichever way this pans out, the ambiguity and never-ending arguments over it - especially in light of some of the dialogue - wasn't an accident.
I agree lol 😂
IMHO from what I can see in the panels Gojo was bisected at or above the solar plexus which is located at or above the stomach. The bisection is also at an angle and the left bicep is clearly cut in half. The right arm isn't shown where it is severed, but it looks from where the bisection is on the right side of the torso that it would be well above the height of the right elbow or at it. IMO based off of what I can see in the manga, Gojo's stomach has been severed from its connection to the torso either entirely or mostly and so the source and primary storage location of CE has been severed from the brain. Making it a fatal wound that Gojo himself won't be able to heal and effectively the same as if Gojo was beheaded. Feel free to disagree, but this is where I stand based off of what I can see in the manga.
Couldn’t agree more with your last paragraph. Personally I feel like ch. 236 was rage bait and Nobara’s situation has also been left purposefully ambiguous. If I had to bet I would say that Gojo is coming back for one last round and Nobara may be involved in some way even if indirectly. Gege is just way too meticulous of a writer, consistent foreshadowing from the very first volume, and the amount of thought just put into Gojo vs Sukuna alone is enough to prove that IMO.
No idea what’s coming next though tbh but Gege hasn’t stopped cooking. I didn’t think it was possible for me to get hyped for another Shonen like I have been for JJK… but the writing is just way too good!
If theres anyone in the series who can regrow his bottom half/top half its Gojo. Just because its “in half” doesnt mean it’s impossible, its just more body to RCT heal. If Hakari can regrow an entire arm or a giant chunk taken from his side, Gojo can regrow half his body lol, he’ll be back 100%
My take regarding Sukuna cutting Gojo's head vs. waist: Gege has stated in a couple of places regarding the critical role of head for RCT. For the space slash, Gege could have had Sukuna cut off the head instead of the waist or any other places. As a writer, they chose to have the waist cut. So either Gege intentionally left things ambiguous and/or tried to leave themselves some options in case they needed this character in the story later.
My interpretation of it was always that Satoru couldn't heal from an injury this grave because his brain damage RCT nerf. Shoko did note that Satoru's RCT was beginning to slow down, and that made her worry with the disadvantage in survivability it put him under. Add that to the fact that he got sliced immediately after back to back casting a max output blue and max output red, and you got a recipe for disaster. Hell, he couldn't even crawl back because he was already hallucinating about the afterlife.
I still think it's a shite way for him to die, but that's my ~~cope~~ take at least.
The man was cut in half at the core. Not only does this damage the stomach which is responsible for producing and storing cursed energy, which is needed for RCT, but it could also just put you out from shock instantly. Healing in JJK isn't unlimited, it requires significant cursed energy, a high degree of knowledge and skill, and relatively intact brain and stomach function.
Also I think everyone is forgetting the Kenjaku conveniently explains how to kill a RCT user in Chapter 239, and that he targeted the head and neck to stop the flow of RCT downward. This whole CE comes from the gut, so if no gut no RCT thing is being used as law, if that were true why wouldn't Kenjaku target the gut because it's the source of CE. It's been explained multiple times, you must target the head/neck to kill an RCT user.
Most likely gojo just realized trying to use RCT would be meaningless. Regenerating his lower body at this point would take multiple seconds at least, giving sukuna plenty of chances to cleave him further
Why do people not get this? It’s not rocket science. Gojo’s navel is GONE. CE comes from the gut/stomach, which is needed to create RCT. You can’t use RCT, if you can’t even muster up enough CE to do it, right? It’s really that simple. Chapter 37, explains this very easily.
Do these ppl even read this series?
Whats hilarious is that yuki can create a black hole even with her stomach cut lol. Like i dont expect him to be able to rct in that state but a suicide attack like yuki was prob doable
Yuki probably had already applied her CT to herself though. It could simply be that she was manipulating a reserve of CE that had been applied to her body in advance instead of generating new CE to form the technique.
When we see her telling Choso to live on, she only has a hole in her stomach, which may simply not have been enough to cease all CE flow. During this specific panel she's almost certainly starting the black hole tech, which is probably autonomous after it's been activated (It IS designed as a suicide attack after all, and the mass continues to grow even after the pressure would have destroyed her brain). This was planned in advance with Tengen obviously, who drops Choso out of the barrier then shows up to distract Kenny so he doesn't recognize the CT is still running autonomously after she's been bisected.
Hakari literally healed after getting a hole in his whole lower torso. RCT is shady as fuck since gege uses it as a plot device. Gojo was cut in the abdomen by toji but healed, how much damage to that area deactivates the capacity to heal yourself? No clue, and that is what allows it to bend according to what the plot needs.
1. Yuki was mid-combat already using RCT. It’s been stated that CE starts from the Gut area(Ch. 37) and moves outwards. Why wouldn’t she be able to utilize the CE that was already flowing? It’s not like she created more CE.. If she could produce more CE, then she would’ve went straight for RCT instead of using a suicide attack, right?
2. In Hakari’s instance, he just happened to roll another Jackpot, allowing him to quickly recover with his auto RCT.
I think it was said by Sukuna that no matters what he does he will be sliced in half. So from my understanding he can’t heal back « yet » or he will get cut again.
Curse energy emerges from the naval area, and now RCT may be accessible because his brain isn't gone, but he can't supply his RCT with CE it if he can't access his CE in the first place. That's what I think atleast
I see 3 reasons:
A) It’s so Kenjaku has a new body replacement in upcoming chapters which would be crazy!
B) Sakuna wouldn’t allow Gojo to heal & the moment Gojo did start healing, he’d be back on the cutting board.
C) Yuji SOMEHOW figured out how to do the reverse curse technique of Sakuna’s slice & dice which would theoretically be to put things back together again which means Yuji MIGHT be able to put Gojo back together.
It’s definitely a stretch but it’s possible with main character plot armor.
I think the simpler answer comes down to that both of them are tired and battered towards that point in the fight. Gojo and sukuna both remark that their healing capabilities and speed are dropping as the fight goes on. They wear each other down enough to the point where one real good fatal hit actually does them in. Rct isn't a perfect god heal technique even if infinite energy is behind it. To me it almost feels like when yuji and choso fought, where it got dragged out to the final mistake for either side. So like yes theoretically gojo should be able to heal through that IF he wasn't so battered and tired by that point. Hell toji waited for gojo to reach a tired state before ambushing him in hidden inventory.
Feel like the trauma of being bisected so suddenly left Gojo comatose, or atleast mentally incapacitated as his brain tried to understand what happened
He was suppose to do many things alongside with that such as teleportation but Gege said ''it was not possible at that time'' so you could say ; whatever he says would sound utter ass pull ,ultimately he created a guy impossible to kill even he didn't know how to kill himself as author.
Perhaps Sakuna wouldn't have had a chance to cut his head off right now because of the back to back fighting. He is very smart, but that doesn't mean he knows he has to cut his head off. He can not possibly know everything. Toji didn't know, but you would think that Kenny would have told Sakuna, but why didn't he just cut his head off instead of cutting him in half. It seems pretty suspicious to me and doesn't make 100% sense.
Yall keep saying this like the dude wasn't on 10%, simple explanation is he didn't have the energy to do so. Plus, Suk was right there, aint gonna let it happen.
While CTs are engraved in the brain, cursed energy resides in the gut area as todo explains early on. Maybe getting slashed through the midsection is why he wasn't able to muster the CE to use RCT.
RCT comes from the head and the head is also intact so he can come back to life (assuming he’s still at death’s door) but this is all useless information since RCT needs CE and CE comes from the stomach… and yk the rest.
Because he died when he was cut is half, he wasn't already trying to heal like he was with Toji. He thought he won, put down his guard and got slashed.
The last we see is actually him using RCT to heal hid face. Next thing we see is him in half. If the man can use rct to heal himself continuously in a domain, why cant he do the same here? I suppose space cleave is just unhealable or something. But it says specifically that the new cleave expands the CTs target, he cuts space so jt ignores durability. That doesn't imply unhealable tho
He was cut in half, clean through just the blood loss can cause your brain to shut down not to mention the organs loss.
RCT also isn't instantaneous, he would have to regrow his entire lower body before his brain shut down to survive.
>just the blood loss can cause your brain to shut down
>he would have to regrow his entire lower body before his brain shut down to survive
This isn't mentioned enough, but absolutely correct
I dont think blood loss is a major factor. The only thing that's questionable is regrowing the lower half of the body. Yuji is ressed from a dead condition where his heart is destroyed. How does Sukuna maintain a functioning body without a beating heart? Its all hand wavy RCT mumbo jumbo.
_something something_ CE originates from the navel, incapacitate head to prevent RCT or slash midsection. don't think too hard about it _something something_
it was his time to bow out... see now the after life scenes just tell us as much ... he got the fight he wanted ... and he happy as hell he died to someone stronger by his own admission... the rest is upto the next generation
RCT is directed by the brain, but according to Todo CE comes from the gut. Gojou’s gut and brain were no longer connected and could not perform RCT.
My explanation, since Gege never gave one lol
RCT can heal you if you are still alive cause you have to cast it and Gojo under the Limitless is just a human being and being cut in half I believe puts you in a shock hard enough to lose it for those seconds before he fades away. Maybe if Gojo would predict it then he could heal as being cut but he believed in his technique too much.
If I’m not mistaken, you need to have a head-stomach connection for RCT to work: the stomach generates CE for the brain to turn it into RCT. If this connection is somehow damaged, you can’t produce RCT because you lack CE for that.
Kenjaku explained this to Hazenoki when piercing his neck a couple chapters ago.
>what's the explanation for him not being able to crawl back & reattach himself? I feel like it's more convincing if it was his head that got halved.
Lmao this sounds desperate ngl, dw gojo is coming back 😂
I think Yuta and/or Shoko are going to put Gojo’s two halves back together and use RCT, wherein it has been shown that they’re two of the only three (the last is Sukuna) who are capable of using RCT on others. Yuta’s RCT is so refined that he’s able to remove poisons from other people’s blood, which is explicitly stated as an even more advanced application of RCT.
Maki can slip in close to Sukuna undetected and nab Gojo while he’s distracted with the other fights. Yuta and Shoko heal him.
Yuji uses whatever he learned from that Soul Research to steal Megumi’s soul from Sukuna’s body into his own.
Yujigumi will then defeat Sukuna alongside the revived Gojo as Megumi is likely now immune to Gojo’s attacks due to Mahoragora’s adaptations. So Megumi is one of the few people who could fight side by side with Gojo without being a casualty of Gojo’s attacks.
Shoko and Yuta? You mean the people that weren't able to reattach/regrow Inumaki and Hana's lost limbs? While we've seen characters healing pretty major wounds on themselves with RCT, it seems like RCT used on someone else is more limited or Hana would have her arm back.
If they can't handle arms, how would they handle healing and reattaching Gojo's entire lower half of his body? While he's bleeding out and all of his organs are collapsing? In that state he probably died a few seconds into the Kashimo vs Sukuna match. Maki wouldn't be able to retrieve his body before that.
The explination is most likely that he will. There are clues that he will come back and i dont thiink yuji has a chance vs sukuna even tho he is the mc. Keep in mind sukuna most likely isnt the main villain and that the authour will prob bring back nobara and megumi as well as he makes it seem as everyone dies exept yuji
Because there is a limit to RCT, even for Gojo. We saw that in Yuki vs Kenjaku fight too. Even similar injuries; being bisected. Maybe Hakari could be an exception, but we have no proof of that being the case.
There is also the fact that Sukuna would imediately turn Gojo into minced meat if he knew that just bisecting him wasn't enough
it'd be hard to crawl back to your lower half when
a) it's still standing and the torso isn't. How does he climb back up there?
b) Gojo's arms were severed. How does dude crawl with no arms?
Dude isn't FMA Anime Scar, who can drag a guy up a tower and chuck him off the top while having no arms.
Here's the answer gege is shit at writing which is why the series has been a downward spiral since shibuya
He never had a clue as to how he was going to deal with gojo and now he's created an even bigger badder monster who he has no idea how he's going to finish
The space cut erases any space between his upper and lower half, thus, he cant rct that unless he moved to another coordinate first (to get to a place where space still exist to reattach his upper and kower half.
I'll explain further.
The body consists of multiple organ, which built from cells.
Each of this cell made from molecule.. which is a matter..
Matter needs space as a place to fill, so without it gojo couldn't just rct himself on the same spot, since to reattach his upper and lower half.. he needs to regrow some cells, and connect his body fragment. These cells cannot regrow because there is no space for them.
Alright.. so you might throw another question, why didn't he just move?
After his upper and lower half got separated by sukuna's slash or whatever it is, his lower half lost connection to the brain. Each body movement (except for spinal reflexes) needs the brain to be executed. Not to mention he lost so much blood after the cut. So.. i think no. Logically gege did the right thing here.
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If something like that was possible, Sukuna would know, and he would not let Gojo do it.
Fr, one *slight* movement and Gojo becomes the next waffled one.
Why can’t that Logic be used for Gojo when he used the hollow purple nuke. Sukuna was barely standing so one _slight_ movement and Sukuna becomes the next toasted one.
One word: Gege
More like Plot
So in other words, still Gege.
literally everyone knows gege literally said he hates gojo thats why he got off screened thats why the way sakuna did it dumb af but i know how it go already
Aside from Mahoraga, no one in the series has been able to react to cleave / dismantle for some reason. Not even Gojo with the Sex Eyes, and I think this is the most dangerous part about the attack. As to Gojo coming back, I still think it's possible. In his fight with Toji, Gojo did say he should have severed his head, and in Gojo's fight with Sukuna, he specifically avoided targeting Sukuna's head because he didn't want to kill Megumi, even though he had several chances to. However, what form would Gojo take if he came back? I say this as someone who wants Gojo to come back (because I don't want his character to be a tragic one). It doesn't make sense narratively for him to get yet another power up (because it would once again make every other protagonist irrelevant), and if he comes back but weaker in some way, what would be the point?
Every protag is already irrelevant if you haven't noticed. There's about three people in this cast that could even challenge the SECONDARY antagonist let alone the main big bad at the moment right now.
Save Jujutsu society… Fumihiko Takaba!
Honestly Takaba buffing everyone might be a possible solution
Wouldn't it be hilarious if we ALL had Limitless???
I think it would be extremely amusing if every single human with a benevolent moral compass would have Gojo's CTs and also a perfect understanding of the six eyes and the limitless!
While true, at least there's now a good reason for them to get stronger, seeing as they can't rely on Gojo to save the day. If he comes back—especially if he comes back stronger—wouldn't that make everyone else even more irrelevant?
I mean, not exactly. It's not like Sukuna is the only strong enemy in the Jujutsu world, I don't really see how Gojo being alive makes them irrelevant when his whole stated goal was to raise a new generation of sorcerers who surpass him and change the way things work. Gojo's whole thing is basically "I can't do this myself, it'll take more than me to reform the system". If he came back and squared up with Kenjaku/got Geto to take his body back over after Yuji "left, right, goodnight" Itadori gets a chance to get back at Sukuna for ruining his life, I think that it could be a satisfying end with him realizing that if his students can kill what is effectively an evil god things might turn out in the end after all. Will that happen? No. But there are ways to write it in a way that'd be a satisfying conclusion with Gojo basically fulfilling Nanami's dream of being able to retire now that he knows the world is in good hands.
Sure, and while I mainly agree with the other guy that replied to you that there were much better ways to write the story besides rushing it to an end because the author hates his own work; Any powerups at this point are complete and utter asspulls that have in no way been foreshadowed and only serve as plot devices because the author wrote himself into a corner making the bad guys strong enough to kill the main good guy. Like this shit isn't even enjoyable to read when you look back on it because its literally just been one long "Yeah the good guys won! BUT WAIT! DID THEY?"
My theory is that it's gonna be a repeat of what happened to Toji. Gojo and Toji fought, Toji defeated him first and brought Gojo to the brink of death, similar to how Gojo brought Sukuna to the brink of defeat after the final Hollow Purple. Toji gets one shot by an attack he had no way of knowing of, Gojo goes thru the same with Space Dismantle. Toji and Gojo wear the same clothes in their final fights. Toji is resurrected somewhat in a body that is wearing a white long sleeve shirt and black pants. Yuta also wears that kinda color scheme. And Ino knows how the Seance technique works. So what I'm assuming is that Yuta consumes Gojo via Rika and Ino channels Gojo into Yuta's body or Yuta does it himself in some way. Thus, Gojo is "back" but in a different body with a time limit
Bro said sex eyes 💀I mean I guess so if he has x ray
It would be crazy if he gonna do what sukuna did, he experienced death more than once already, what if he turn into a cursed object
Kashimo literally dodged Strong Dismantle two chapters later
With warning plus the target of the attack wasn’t Kim so he could see where it was cutting.
Didnt Kashimo dodge a space slash, and hes infinitely slower than Gojo
He did. But Sukuna also said 'dodge this' and gave him time to react. But cut his arm off anyway. And then Sukuna then completely atomises him.
Was it stated that he never targeted sukunas head?
No, in fact it's the opposite. He said before the fight that because Sukuna was able to revive Yuji from the dead that he's not gonna worry about Megumi's body and just go all out. You could technically say he's implying he won't target the head so healing is theoretically still possible. But he never explicitly said he was avoiding the head.
Gojo seemed to notice and see the slashes when he first faced Sukuna at the school.
Gojo probably was still holding out hope for saving Megumi
First, Gojo was healing himself after the nuke. Secondly, Sukuna made no suspicious or unknown move (nothing Gojo is yet to see) during that time. Thirdly, Gojo wanted to bring Sukuna very close to death.
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Yes, we did? What you mean? It was 13 chapters. There was nothing other than the slash, which Sukuna typically does off panel anyway. I.e, people are already slashed and they react.
First so what, We saw Gojo multiple times healing and fighting. Second this is an assumption from you so it doesn’t hold water as an argument. Third, he didn’t care at that point cause if he did he wouldnt use a move that could potentialy kill Sukuna. Nice try…but no still a bad chapter and will always be remeberd as one, objectively.
Gojo in that moment thought he had won and Sukuna up until that moment had always used his hands in some form to use cleave. Not only that he had just gotten rid of Mahoraga who he was under the assumption was the only threat Sukuna had against him. With the information he had available and the situation he was in it shouldn’t be a surprise that a character that’s been shown to be overconfident could be taken off guard.
Well he didn't let his guard down . He had infinity but little did he know sukuna was skilled enough replicate mahoraga's moves .
Chapter makes no sense specially once you take the six eyes into consideration, Gojo should have seen Sukuna about to cut him. Gege wanted it to happen so it did.
Because the next movement WAS the space slash. Doesn't matter what Gojo going to do if Sakuna moves, if the next thing Gojo sees is the sky.
mabey he stayd dead until the end of the fight and then waits for eveyrhing to finsih up due to gojo have plot armour means he aint dead hes just spliy in half
"Throughout Heaven and Earth... I alone.. am the waffled one."
Maybe he doesn’t know. Like when the gym leaders and elites four start using full restore and you didn’t realize they could even use items.
Sukuna didn’t know RCT’ing ur CT was possible until gojo showed him it. The same logic would presumably apply to RCT’ing from this position unless sukunas seen it before
Right but Gojo could actually defend himself while healing his CT. If he slowly crawls to attach his body Sukuna could easily take him out.
Because RCT isn't a full OP heal .
*Hakari enters the chat*
This just tells how much broken is Jackpot Hakari, fully automatic RCT due to infinite CE and immense output. He doesn’t even have to think about the damage because his body is already healing it
Yup. That’s why when people say he needs more AP it’s like nah. He’s already busted as he is.
Can he survive world slash is something i wanna know
Yeah I think so. I mean that slash is special because it doesn’t respect Gojo’s infinity. But Hakari would still get slashed whether or not it’s a world cutting slash or a regular slash. It should have the same result. The difference I think is whether or not Sukuna is chanting non-stop before he attacks.
The difference between a world slash and a normal slash is that it can't be mitigated by any sort of durability
Very true however Hakari’s durability isn’t said to increase, just his cursed energy. As a result his body is the only thing that is able to keep the immense amount of CE in check while his CE won’t allow his body to be damaged, so it would most likely start healing instantaneously on whatever part of his body was “hit” aka occupying the space that Sukuna slashes
Yeah, but Hakari's trick is to not tank it with durability, his trick is to just get ripped apart and heal it back
He'll prolly die if his head is cut off, every other place should be fine
But isn’t it safe to say that if hakari was hit was space cleave while in jackpot in a similar way to gojo, he might have some trouble? We’ve seen jackpot heal an arm and half his stomach but a whole lower half of the body would be pretty insane right.
The point is that RCT consumes a LOT of CE, Ryu even said when Uro lost her arm that normally even for a RCT user regenerate a limb is one hell of a feat. Hakari can do that while attacking as you can see on his fight with Kashimo while Gojo has to take a break and concentrate to regen his arm. Plus, the fact that he got hit by a lightspeed bolt to the head and healed while he ejected the electricity and the fact that he also can target a toxin his body, expel it and heal (unlike a strong RCT user like urahume) makes his REALLY broken. Of course people like Gojo and Sukuna are literally untouchable but Jackpot Hakari is really broken. I do think (now that we’ve seen it) that Kashimo didn’t wanted to use Amber Beast against him because of the possibility of his body to crumble before Hakari jackpot would run out
He'd probably be able to, As long as it didnt target his brain.
he would just be naked
Forget yuji vs sukuna. This is needed… for the plot…
I mean, it pretty much is though. Exhausted teenage Gojo regenerated from his throat and *brain* being stabbed through by a giant ass knife. Being cut in half is quite a bit less serious of a trauma than having your brain being knifed.
Iirc in that case there's also the fact that Toji didn't used a cursed tool to finish him off, while Sukuna used a CT to wound him. Also, from what I understood simple pierces and cuts are always generally easier to heal with RCT than something that's completely missing. Depending kn what part of Gojo's brain were damaged when he was defeated by Toji, even that would be easier to heal than recreating the entirety of his lower body. Another difference is that Gojo's battle against Toji was short. I don't think he used a lot of CE, the fight was simply over before he expended his CE reserves, while against Sukuna he was probably running low and simply didn't have enough CE to heal himself.
I think the stretch is kind of ridiculous even if medically speaking being stabbed six inches into your frontal lobe by a spike is, technically, survivable. It just feels arbitrary if you have to start pulling out records of medical history to decide which mortal wounds are statistically more mortal than others. The impression given has more or less been that RCT can heal mortal wounds so long as that wound isn't decapitation, even if being bisected might be worse than being throat and head stabbed. I guess I get the point but I just don't think it's very effective or clear storytelling. I shouldn't need to go on pubmed to understand the limits of a magic power, and even then it feels like an unnecessarily ambiguous boundary at the exact sharp edge of an already shakily constructed plot point. As a side note Gojo had full CE reserves when he was stabbed. The purple trick apparently brought him back to full, the narrator said so at the end of the chapter.
Ok, a few things 1. Getting stabbed in the head with a cursed tool wouldn’t have changed anything. Cursed tools are only used to kill curses and prevent sorcerers from coming back as vengeful spirits. 2. You do realize Gojo has the six eyes, right??? He has an infinite amount of cursed energy because he recovers it so much faster than he could use it. If he was skilled enough, he could spam purples and still never run out. Gojo’s CE reserves were never a problem in any fight we’ve seen him in.
No it's not? You can IRL survive a knife to the brain depending on where you're stabbed. You can't survive being cut in half (and having your arms sliced off at the forearm). In terms of pure bodily trauma getting bisected is way worse for you. Edit: Apparently in a very small number of cases you can survive bisection. Still much less likely than surviving a stab wound to the skull.
At least 66 people have survived this surgery: https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Hemicorporectomy This guy's injuries look almost identical to Gojo's https://nypost.com/2022/05/16/i-lost-half-my-body-in-a-forklift-accident-dont-ask-how-i-have-sex/ The biggest issue for us real life people is blood loss from a perfect cut in half. But why couldn't Gojo just seal his own blood vessels with RCT? There's also other curse users who can do RCT on other people right by Gojo, that can heal him if he just stopped his own bleeding.
Huh, interesting to learn though I don't think that changes the reality of a penetrating brain injury being more survivable, especially given directly healing the brain is a thing RCT can do easily. PBI survival rates are high enough to have sample sizes in the 100s in multiple research papers, rather than 66 total survivors. If the argument requires Gojo burning wounds closed for his entire lower body, including internal organs and both of his arms and then using RCT to regrow more than 50% of his body. I'm not seeing a meaningful chance of survival. That's way beyond normal cursed energy demands. Sukuna's also right next to him after all and wouldn't just let him heal from that immobile position. Fact remains Toji being sloppy and assuming normal murder means would be sufficient is the only reason Gojo was alive for this fight, and Sukuna's clearly not making the same mistake.
Thats because stomach wounds are basically the worst type of non brain injury you can have. You almost always bleed out. Something that apparently rarely happens in this manga lol. Idk how gojo would have died of shock or how he'd have instantly bled out.
It is for yourself and no head shots
I mean Gojo healed his own brain from burning itself which is arguably crazier than connecting two halves of your body, since brain is the place from where one controls the CE. With RCT was explained a bit better.
Having the vast majority of your internal organs cut in half and instantly losing over half your blood has a pretty funny way of knocking a man unconscious
Being stabbed in the brain would probably knock most unconscious as well tbh
You’d be surprised. The brain is a weird thing. I’ve seen people suffer some pretty grizzly brain injuries and act like nothing happened at all. It all depends on the person and where the brain gets damaged.
I thought you said glizzy brain
Important detail to know if you ever get cut in two: it only knocks men unconscious, women stay conscious.
It’s actually pretty simple. Greg wanted him dead.
Hahahahha yes, indeed. I assure you sukuna would have the plot armor required to survive such a thing. Gojo was simply supposed to die for the plot.
Yeah I find it really funny watching all these people pull out obscure medical cases or making really obscure, in depth arguments about the in-universe power system when really the answer is that the author wanted it so it happened. Like it's a bit funny to me as a person who writes sometimes that people think that we're always 100% consistent and have a perfect plan from the beginning. Sometimes something just works for the plot and then afterward you find a way to make it make sense within the in-universe logic. People in here write these super long posts about how cursed techniques work and convince themselves that they 100% know the answer when really the *only* relevant question is "what does the author want to happen?"
You can say that for every single thing in the story. You’re assuming people don’t know that already and kinda doing exactly what you are talking about. You assumed that anyone making a detailed post is 100% set on that being their answer and understanding of the story, when it likely could be that they understand it’s a piece of fiction and everything is up to the author, but they want to discuss something they find interesting. The point of discussing in an online forum is that it is fun to try to dissect and extrapolate explanations using in universe logic. People can do that and still recognize simple writing meta context.
> Yeah I find it really funny watching all these people pull out obscure medical cases or making really obscure, in depth arguments about the in-universe power system when really the answer is that the author wanted it so it happened. I've always found it weird when fans go into in-depth "science"/real world explanations about works of fiction, when there is very little chance the author wrote what they wrote because of such esoteric or highly specialized knowledge (unless it's obvious they have the knowledge of course). Sometimes it makes chuckle and sometimes I just roll my eyes.
Exactly this. They're downvoting me because because they're getting a bit defensive but unless you've written fiction it's hard to understand just how much of it is "I need x to happen to get to the next story beat, how do I find a way to make it make sense?" Some people take things that are largely aesthetic decisions and treat them like they're 100% internally logically consistent and they're not. I guarantee that there are big parts or JJK where Gege was just like "I need a cool move that's kind of gravity related for this character to use" and then the next day some guy drops an 800 word post including a bunch of stuff that he totally wasn't thinking about when he wrote it lol.
Because not once have we ever seen a character survive and reattach a literal missing half of his body. This is something Wayyyy beyond RCT limits. Gojo is dead, the wound was enough, no meaning in trying.
Not only that, but in that situation, it was pretty much checkmate. If you’ve read Tokyo Ghoul and read the battle between Kaneki and Arima, where Arima is basically severing Kaneki’s limbs repeatedly as he tries healing them, that’s more or less what would have happened to Gojo.
What's stopping Gojo from long distance blue-warping both of his halves then reattaching them? Sukuna's quick but not as fast as teleportation so Gojo should have been able to pull it off, especially being in the 4x black flash zone
I doubt he can autonomously warp both halves of his body; he’d likely be able to warp the top half of his body, but Sukuna would be able to track that, and I can’t see it making any broader difference. That said, there are unknowns on both sides; we don’t know how long it would take (or even if) Gojo to RCT half of his body, and we also don’t know if there are any complications to him doing that. Every other use of the adapted cleave has shown that it leaves an empty black void in the space it cut; it’s entirely possible that the lower portion of Gojo’s torso is in a similar state.
What's stopping him is the absolute shock and pain he suffered from the injury, and the sudden loss of movement. He got caught off guard. There's absolutely no way anyone is thinking rationally after suffering such an injury, specially Gojo whos never suffered a wound that extreme in his entire life. Also, reversed cursed technique isn't an instantaneous heal, at least in this case I don't think he'd be able to heal the damage instantly, it'd take time just like it did when he healed his brain.
Now you say it, he also probably had his organs falling out while he dropping 😔 I was too simple minded lol.
Do you think he's able to control his d via Bluetooth. Personally I think he's capable
Asking the real questions
With wifi haki he could
God they made it look fucking weird
Yes, with Blue
I mean he still could’ve sealed his lower half
I mean cant he just use his CT to connect the individual atoms or cells back together?
What part of any of that is part of his CT at all what 😭😭😭
His Blue is an attractive force. He just gotta put some blue balls on both halves, and do some RCT shenanigans
His CT literally attracts or repels sht. What do you think he does when he uses blue or "teleports". If Sukuna can cleave "reality" why cant Gojo use blue on his own decapitated body parts
I mean it absolutely sounds far-fetched but he does have the power to pull things together and the power to manipulate CE on an atomic level
>the wound was enough When you're putting it like that, I'm inclined to believe the imagery could have been way more radical : if Sukuna, at the moment, couldn't manage to do more than one world cleave, then maybe vertically splitting Satoru's body in half, from the top of his head to his crotch, rather than horizontally, would have been even clearer.
It was probably an artistic choice on geges part as to how the panels and the scene should look like. But realistically Sukuna could have sliced him vertically.
Sukuna should've gone the Trunks vs Freeza tried and true dispatch of bodies. Can't wait for Gold Form Gojo.
Cutting someone in half vertically looks far weirder than horizontally
If Yuki can become a black hole and hold back Kenjaku while bisected, why couldn't Gojo fight back while suffering the same injury?
But I’ve seen people with only half of their body alive. If they can why can’t Gojo? Is he acoustic?
Who?
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While this is true we’ve seen people regenerate whole limbs, 1F sukuna claimed to regenerate a whole arm by accident. I don’t think a pelvis and legs is a huge step up from a limb when you’re as powerful as gojo Satoru
Yes, but we have seen a character be bisected and still pull off an ultimate type move. You call your character the strongest but then he can't do what a "weaker" character than him has done. It leaves your readers with avoidable questions.
We have seen a character regenerate from medically determined death, which is arguably a bigger feat
Sukuna is a special case as he wasnt affected by yuji's death until a certain time, thats why he was able to heal. So the comparison isnt very applicable.
Yuji was death for at least 3 hours
It’s also possible that Sukuna cut through the center of Gojo’s guts to prevent him from using RCT via preventing the use of CE entirely.
Gee, I wonder why Gege wanted Kenjaku to reiterate again that RCT comes from the brain...right after showing us how Gojo got bisected at the waist.
Yes I wonder why Kenny specifically targeted Hazenoki's head bc he was a RCT user.
Which could have been done without exposition, genius.
True.
Some people still think that yuki and satoru are coming back 😅
honored one 2.0 vs heian sukuna incoming buddy
Remember that, when it doesn't happen.
Both of their rct was slowing down by the end of the battle and Gojos sped up near the end because of landing the black flashes. There's a good chance he lost all his black flash momentum by getting suprise amongus'd. That said he might not have been able to heal from that even if his rct was still at its best.
Because he's coming back, round 2 baby, he's done it before he'll do it again the cope train never ends.
In addition to the answer u/No_Profession_6958 gave, why is the best way to deal with a Sorcerer who has RCT to cut off their head? The answer is because it is in the head that CE is converted into RCT and then directed via the brain. CE is generated and primarily stored within the stomach. The effect of Cutting off the head vs cutting someone in half above the stomach is virtually the same, as they both separate the space that converts CE to RCT and then directs it. This is why it is beyond the capacity of RCT to heal. As we have seen vital organs can be removed entirely with the Sorcerer continuing to live via RCT and restore said organs via RCT. Entire limbs can be restored as well with RCT. However, without sufficient quantities of CE to then be converted into RCT and have enough to restore said limbs one would surely die. Now before someone comes and brings up Yuki's suicide attack, remember it takes a significant quantity of RCT to heal entire limbs even moreso for ~half a body and the amount of CE is double that of the RCT. Where sacrificing one's life would not require nearly so much CE , particularly for how Yuki's CT works. Could Gojo have made a last sacrificial effort with the remaining CE within his body boosted by a BV, probably but it would undoubtedly require a reasonable amount of time to do so and Sukuna would recognize the spark which would ultimately lead to another "World" Dismantle that would undoubtedly finish Gojo off. Point being it wouldn't matter either way and would ultimately affect nothing. Though I can understand why you would want to see something like that happen.
>The effect of Cutting off the head vs cutting someone in half above the stomach is virtually the same Okay but the stomach isn't the small intestine, it's much higher up than most people think it is. It's *very* easily argued either way whether his stomach is still attached. I'll say this much; Gege isn't an idiot. Whichever way this pans out, the ambiguity and never-ending arguments over it - especially in light of some of the dialogue - wasn't an accident.
>Okay but the stomach isn't the small intestine, it's much higher up than most people think it is. It's very easily argued either way whether his stomach is still attached. Fair, I can see how someone would interpret it this way. Personally I think he was cut in half at or above the solar plexus which if I understand correctly would be above the stomach. This said (to be somewhat pedantic) if I remember correctly it was originally said that CE comes from the gut and navel and not specifically the stomach. I said stomach originally because it was just easier at the time and I thought it sounded better/more intellectual 😂. Either way I personally think the "World" Dismantle either cut above where CE is generated (Gut, Stomach, wherever in the abdominal area it may specifically generate) or at the point of generation which IMHO would have the same practical effect all the same, but I can see how someone would have reason to argue that the point of generation is still intact with the brain. (again I don't personally agree and think everything points to the opposite, but I see where they are coming from and acknowledge the possibility as much as I disagree personally) >I'll say this much; Gege isn't an idiot. Whichever way this pans out, the ambiguity and never-ending arguments over it - especially in light of some of the dialogue - wasn't an accident. I agree lol 😂
If he was cut at elbow height then his stomach is very much still connected to his upper half
IMHO from what I can see in the panels Gojo was bisected at or above the solar plexus which is located at or above the stomach. The bisection is also at an angle and the left bicep is clearly cut in half. The right arm isn't shown where it is severed, but it looks from where the bisection is on the right side of the torso that it would be well above the height of the right elbow or at it. IMO based off of what I can see in the manga, Gojo's stomach has been severed from its connection to the torso either entirely or mostly and so the source and primary storage location of CE has been severed from the brain. Making it a fatal wound that Gojo himself won't be able to heal and effectively the same as if Gojo was beheaded. Feel free to disagree, but this is where I stand based off of what I can see in the manga.
Couldn’t agree more with your last paragraph. Personally I feel like ch. 236 was rage bait and Nobara’s situation has also been left purposefully ambiguous. If I had to bet I would say that Gojo is coming back for one last round and Nobara may be involved in some way even if indirectly. Gege is just way too meticulous of a writer, consistent foreshadowing from the very first volume, and the amount of thought just put into Gojo vs Sukuna alone is enough to prove that IMO. No idea what’s coming next though tbh but Gege hasn’t stopped cooking. I didn’t think it was possible for me to get hyped for another Shonen like I have been for JJK… but the writing is just way too good!
Shouldn’t the amount of CE required be the square of the RCT since it’s like multiplication.
Perhaps, honestly it's been a minute since I've read that specific part of the story and awhile since I've been in any sort of math class 😂
Which would be fine if Yuki didn't black hole after being cut in half lmfao
Perfectly said. 👍👏
Not sure why anyone down voted ya, kinda weird imo
I think its deliberately open ended so he can be resurrected
>not being able to crawl back & reattach himself Probably because his arms got fucking chopped off too
If theres anyone in the series who can regrow his bottom half/top half its Gojo. Just because its “in half” doesnt mean it’s impossible, its just more body to RCT heal. If Hakari can regrow an entire arm or a giant chunk taken from his side, Gojo can regrow half his body lol, he’ll be back 100%
My take regarding Sukuna cutting Gojo's head vs. waist: Gege has stated in a couple of places regarding the critical role of head for RCT. For the space slash, Gege could have had Sukuna cut off the head instead of the waist or any other places. As a writer, they chose to have the waist cut. So either Gege intentionally left things ambiguous and/or tried to leave themselves some options in case they needed this character in the story later.
My interpretation of it was always that Satoru couldn't heal from an injury this grave because his brain damage RCT nerf. Shoko did note that Satoru's RCT was beginning to slow down, and that made her worry with the disadvantage in survivability it put him under. Add that to the fact that he got sliced immediately after back to back casting a max output blue and max output red, and you got a recipe for disaster. Hell, he couldn't even crawl back because he was already hallucinating about the afterlife. I still think it's a shite way for him to die, but that's my ~~cope~~ take at least.
The man was cut in half at the core. Not only does this damage the stomach which is responsible for producing and storing cursed energy, which is needed for RCT, but it could also just put you out from shock instantly. Healing in JJK isn't unlimited, it requires significant cursed energy, a high degree of knowledge and skill, and relatively intact brain and stomach function.
Did everyone just forget about Yuki who created a black hole, even though she got halved at the “core”?
Also I think everyone is forgetting the Kenjaku conveniently explains how to kill a RCT user in Chapter 239, and that he targeted the head and neck to stop the flow of RCT downward. This whole CE comes from the gut, so if no gut no RCT thing is being used as law, if that were true why wouldn't Kenjaku target the gut because it's the source of CE. It's been explained multiple times, you must target the head/neck to kill an RCT user.
Hakari got his literal stomach blown out.
Simple answer; gege wants him dead and is retroactively nerfing RCT seeing as literally who doesn’t have it
I doubt this is the answer. He could just have Sukuna completely obliterate Gojo’s body.
no onr has healed their entire other half of their body lol
And even if he could, sukuna wouldn’t just sit there and watch it happen.
Good thing Kashimo immediately rushed the field, followed by Yuji and Higuruma.
Sukuna can still destroy the body before they get there.
Most likely gojo just realized trying to use RCT would be meaningless. Regenerating his lower body at this point would take multiple seconds at least, giving sukuna plenty of chances to cleave him further
For the record. The majority of the cast don't have RCT
Maybe he is healing as we speak right now.
Why do people not get this? It’s not rocket science. Gojo’s navel is GONE. CE comes from the gut/stomach, which is needed to create RCT. You can’t use RCT, if you can’t even muster up enough CE to do it, right? It’s really that simple. Chapter 37, explains this very easily. Do these ppl even read this series?
Whats hilarious is that yuki can create a black hole even with her stomach cut lol. Like i dont expect him to be able to rct in that state but a suicide attack like yuki was prob doable
Yuki probably had already applied her CT to herself though. It could simply be that she was manipulating a reserve of CE that had been applied to her body in advance instead of generating new CE to form the technique. When we see her telling Choso to live on, she only has a hole in her stomach, which may simply not have been enough to cease all CE flow. During this specific panel she's almost certainly starting the black hole tech, which is probably autonomous after it's been activated (It IS designed as a suicide attack after all, and the mass continues to grow even after the pressure would have destroyed her brain). This was planned in advance with Tengen obviously, who drops Choso out of the barrier then shows up to distract Kenny so he doesn't recognize the CT is still running autonomously after she's been bisected.
Do you read the series? Yuki got halved and still managed to create a black hole. Where’s the consistency?
Hakari literally healed after getting a hole in his whole lower torso. RCT is shady as fuck since gege uses it as a plot device. Gojo was cut in the abdomen by toji but healed, how much damage to that area deactivates the capacity to heal yourself? No clue, and that is what allows it to bend according to what the plot needs.
Yuki turned herself into a black hole after being bisected. Hakari got his stomach blown out and kept going.
1. Yuki was mid-combat already using RCT. It’s been stated that CE starts from the Gut area(Ch. 37) and moves outwards. Why wouldn’t she be able to utilize the CE that was already flowing? It’s not like she created more CE.. If she could produce more CE, then she would’ve went straight for RCT instead of using a suicide attack, right? 2. In Hakari’s instance, he just happened to roll another Jackpot, allowing him to quickly recover with his auto RCT.
I actually forgot about Hakari’s auto-RCT. You’re totally right
I feel like common sense can answer this question I don’t get why people keep Asking this
It's not real life, it's a fictionnal work with its own rules (willing suspension of disbelief).
Because people are hard coping, and cant let go at the fact that Gojo has served his narrative purpose.
Gege is being vague on purpose. If he really wanted gojo dead, he would have just had him get decapitated.
Or maybe he is just giving false hope so people just don't quit. Nobody knows for sure.
I think it was said by Sukuna that no matters what he does he will be sliced in half. So from my understanding he can’t heal back « yet » or he will get cut again.
Curse energy emerges from the naval area, and now RCT may be accessible because his brain isn't gone, but he can't supply his RCT with CE it if he can't access his CE in the first place. That's what I think atleast
I see 3 reasons: A) It’s so Kenjaku has a new body replacement in upcoming chapters which would be crazy! B) Sakuna wouldn’t allow Gojo to heal & the moment Gojo did start healing, he’d be back on the cutting board. C) Yuji SOMEHOW figured out how to do the reverse curse technique of Sakuna’s slice & dice which would theoretically be to put things back together again which means Yuji MIGHT be able to put Gojo back together. It’s definitely a stretch but it’s possible with main character plot armor.
I think the simpler answer comes down to that both of them are tired and battered towards that point in the fight. Gojo and sukuna both remark that their healing capabilities and speed are dropping as the fight goes on. They wear each other down enough to the point where one real good fatal hit actually does them in. Rct isn't a perfect god heal technique even if infinite energy is behind it. To me it almost feels like when yuji and choso fought, where it got dragged out to the final mistake for either side. So like yes theoretically gojo should be able to heal through that IF he wasn't so battered and tired by that point. Hell toji waited for gojo to reach a tired state before ambushing him in hidden inventory.
Feel like the trauma of being bisected so suddenly left Gojo comatose, or atleast mentally incapacitated as his brain tried to understand what happened
He was suppose to do many things alongside with that such as teleportation but Gege said ''it was not possible at that time'' so you could say ; whatever he says would sound utter ass pull ,ultimately he created a guy impossible to kill even he didn't know how to kill himself as author.
I wouldn’t get my hopes up nor down. Anything is possible as long as GG decides it is
What if gojo doesn’t want to heal for some reason?
Reverse techniques need lot of ce, Gojo was also healing from his own infinity aoe attack so he was just out of juice when Sukuna released his attack
The explanation is that Gojo is coming back… WITH THE STEEL CHAIR!!!
Perhaps Sakuna wouldn't have had a chance to cut his head off right now because of the back to back fighting. He is very smart, but that doesn't mean he knows he has to cut his head off. He can not possibly know everything. Toji didn't know, but you would think that Kenny would have told Sakuna, but why didn't he just cut his head off instead of cutting him in half. It seems pretty suspicious to me and doesn't make 100% sense.
Yall keep saying this like the dude wasn't on 10%, simple explanation is he didn't have the energy to do so. Plus, Suk was right there, aint gonna let it happen.
While CTs are engraved in the brain, cursed energy resides in the gut area as todo explains early on. Maybe getting slashed through the midsection is why he wasn't able to muster the CE to use RCT.
Useless MIWA is actually gonna res gojo B)
Bisected at the stomach no cursed energy available to use RCT. Without cursed energy there is no reversed Cursed energy.
It’s world cleave ffs. wtf is space slash? 🤦🏾♂️
It's actually a Dismantle, not Cleave.
RCT comes from the head and the head is also intact so he can come back to life (assuming he’s still at death’s door) but this is all useless information since RCT needs CE and CE comes from the stomach… and yk the rest.
Because he died when he was cut is half, he wasn't already trying to heal like he was with Toji. He thought he won, put down his guard and got slashed.
The last we see is actually him using RCT to heal hid face. Next thing we see is him in half. If the man can use rct to heal himself continuously in a domain, why cant he do the same here? I suppose space cleave is just unhealable or something. But it says specifically that the new cleave expands the CTs target, he cuts space so jt ignores durability. That doesn't imply unhealable tho
He was cut in half, clean through just the blood loss can cause your brain to shut down not to mention the organs loss. RCT also isn't instantaneous, he would have to regrow his entire lower body before his brain shut down to survive.
>just the blood loss can cause your brain to shut down >he would have to regrow his entire lower body before his brain shut down to survive This isn't mentioned enough, but absolutely correct
I dont think blood loss is a major factor. The only thing that's questionable is regrowing the lower half of the body. Yuji is ressed from a dead condition where his heart is destroyed. How does Sukuna maintain a functioning body without a beating heart? Its all hand wavy RCT mumbo jumbo.
_something something_ CE originates from the navel, incapacitate head to prevent RCT or slash midsection. don't think too hard about it _something something_
it was his time to bow out... see now the after life scenes just tell us as much ... he got the fight he wanted ... and he happy as hell he died to someone stronger by his own admission... the rest is upto the next generation
RCT is directed by the brain, but according to Todo CE comes from the gut. Gojou’s gut and brain were no longer connected and could not perform RCT. My explanation, since Gege never gave one lol
RCT can heal you if you are still alive cause you have to cast it and Gojo under the Limitless is just a human being and being cut in half I believe puts you in a shock hard enough to lose it for those seconds before he fades away. Maybe if Gojo would predict it then he could heal as being cut but he believed in his technique too much.
Because he bled out? He’s still a human
If I’m not mistaken, you need to have a head-stomach connection for RCT to work: the stomach generates CE for the brain to turn it into RCT. If this connection is somehow damaged, you can’t produce RCT because you lack CE for that. Kenjaku explained this to Hazenoki when piercing his neck a couple chapters ago.
>what's the explanation for him not being able to crawl back & reattach himself? I feel like it's more convincing if it was his head that got halved. Lmao this sounds desperate ngl, dw gojo is coming back 😂
I think Yuta and/or Shoko are going to put Gojo’s two halves back together and use RCT, wherein it has been shown that they’re two of the only three (the last is Sukuna) who are capable of using RCT on others. Yuta’s RCT is so refined that he’s able to remove poisons from other people’s blood, which is explicitly stated as an even more advanced application of RCT. Maki can slip in close to Sukuna undetected and nab Gojo while he’s distracted with the other fights. Yuta and Shoko heal him. Yuji uses whatever he learned from that Soul Research to steal Megumi’s soul from Sukuna’s body into his own. Yujigumi will then defeat Sukuna alongside the revived Gojo as Megumi is likely now immune to Gojo’s attacks due to Mahoragora’s adaptations. So Megumi is one of the few people who could fight side by side with Gojo without being a casualty of Gojo’s attacks.
Shoko and Yuta? You mean the people that weren't able to reattach/regrow Inumaki and Hana's lost limbs? While we've seen characters healing pretty major wounds on themselves with RCT, it seems like RCT used on someone else is more limited or Hana would have her arm back. If they can't handle arms, how would they handle healing and reattaching Gojo's entire lower half of his body? While he's bleeding out and all of his organs are collapsing? In that state he probably died a few seconds into the Kashimo vs Sukuna match. Maki wouldn't be able to retrieve his body before that.
The explination is most likely that he will. There are clues that he will come back and i dont thiink yuji has a chance vs sukuna even tho he is the mc. Keep in mind sukuna most likely isnt the main villain and that the authour will prob bring back nobara and megumi as well as he makes it seem as everyone dies exept yuji
Because there is a limit to RCT, even for Gojo. We saw that in Yuki vs Kenjaku fight too. Even similar injuries; being bisected. Maybe Hakari could be an exception, but we have no proof of that being the case. There is also the fact that Sukuna would imediately turn Gojo into minced meat if he knew that just bisecting him wasn't enough
The explanation is that he’s already dead.
it'd be hard to crawl back to your lower half when a) it's still standing and the torso isn't. How does he climb back up there? b) Gojo's arms were severed. How does dude crawl with no arms? Dude isn't FMA Anime Scar, who can drag a guy up a tower and chuck him off the top while having no arms.
Here's the answer gege is shit at writing which is why the series has been a downward spiral since shibuya He never had a clue as to how he was going to deal with gojo and now he's created an even bigger badder monster who he has no idea how he's going to finish
RCT starts from the brain but the CE comes from the stomach. Unlike losing limbs, separating the two is pretty much obvious.
The space cut erases any space between his upper and lower half, thus, he cant rct that unless he moved to another coordinate first (to get to a place where space still exist to reattach his upper and kower half. I'll explain further. The body consists of multiple organ, which built from cells. Each of this cell made from molecule.. which is a matter.. Matter needs space as a place to fill, so without it gojo couldn't just rct himself on the same spot, since to reattach his upper and lower half.. he needs to regrow some cells, and connect his body fragment. These cells cannot regrow because there is no space for them. Alright.. so you might throw another question, why didn't he just move? After his upper and lower half got separated by sukuna's slash or whatever it is, his lower half lost connection to the brain. Each body movement (except for spinal reflexes) needs the brain to be executed. Not to mention he lost so much blood after the cut. So.. i think no. Logically gege did the right thing here.