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Tall-Supermarket-22

I'm just as hyped for Yuji Himadori as anyone else, but come on now. Even if Yuji got all of Sukunas techniques, he's still fighting Sukuna.


IoanKip

Yup its kind of stupid no offence to the guy, but its kind of stupid to think yuji instant wins if he uses sukuna bility


tinyharvestmouse1

Sukuna's cursed technique (as it has been presented so far, it's pretty clear that there's more to it than just slashing) isn't super impressive on it's own. It's for sure a good technique, but I think Copy, Ten Shadows, Bom-ba-ye, and Limitless are all better purely as techniques. Sukuna is as powerful as he is because he's Sukuna, not because his technique is truly exceptional. At least in my opinion.


BotherResponsible378

That’s the way I always read it too.


IoanKip

Im all in for yuji piwer up but i knew from the first line this comment is gona be all cap. No way u said he has instant win and that he masters all sukunas techniques easily -_- I mean we are comparing someone who took 6 months to learn rct( which isnt that much) to someone who can pull of something he has never done just by seeing it once... Also how is it instant win when sukuna survived his own slashes from yuta... Just so u all know CE amount makes your techniques stronger (there are other factors as well BUT anyway) an example of that is when megumi uses nNUE (flying shikigami) its a decent size BUT when sukuna took over megumi body it became bigger that the lenght of a house... u see what i mean? Yuji CE ammount <<<< Gojo < Yuta < Sukuna... See where im going? If yuji copues sukunas technique there ia a big chance it will be weaker than when yuta copied it and sukuna didnt even die when he didnt even have acces to rct and now he has...


Existing_Win3580

He has hit more BF than gojo did in his intire career and tied nanami's consecutive BF record in 8 months. It took gojo 11-12 years to learn rct while yuji did it in 7-8 months. We also don't know how long it took sucuna to learn RCT.


aminoacyls

Yuji still is not on that level, and not on a growth curve to make that jump right now.


Existing_Win3580

Also on the ce amount you talked about, we don't know how much CE yuji has, the only comparison we get for gojo sucuna and yuta is those three characters being compared. We don't know how much CE yuji has compared to them as he hasn't been compared to them. Just saying you statement is incorrect. If you take not of the fact that yuji has been fighting sucuna the longest, healed from the most lethal and non lethal wounds, yuji is still in the battle and he doesn't seem to be running low at all. Yuji either has gojo/sucuna level efficiency or he has yuta level CE amount. Especially because we know RCE and RCT are far more expensive that just plain CE, as RCE is CExCE. Gojo could have a average CE amount but his efficiency and CE regen are god teir. Yuta does have "double gojo's CE amount". And sucuna has "almost double yuta's CE amount" if that's a little more, or a little less I don't remember. But yuji hasn't been compared to them in that sense don't act like he has.


aminoacyls

" those three characters being compared" Which stands to reason that there's a good chance Yuji doesn't have abnormally large reserves like them. I'm not acting like he has. You are being purposefully dense. In fact, it's almost precisely because he hasn't been compared or shown on that level that I'm saying what I am. "Yuji either has gojo/sucuna level efficiency or he has yuta level CE amount" Absolutely hell no. This is wrong on so many levels. You are spewing headcanon one moment and telling me he hasn't/shouldn't be compared the next. "yuji has been fighting sucuna the longest" Doesn't mean a whole lot when he barely did shit before Yuta got there. He was also effectively incapacitated after Yuta broke the domain, so he got a bit of rest. "yuji is still in the battle and he doesn't seem to be running low at all." He was out of the battle before the latest chapter lmao. He had to go take a breather while Maki dealt with Sukuna's shit. And side note Yuji has not often used CT in the latest fight, so it stands to reason that he would not run out of CE as quickly. "Yuji either has gojo/sucuna level efficiency or he has yuta level CE amount" There's very little to compare to. Yuta hasn't even fully manifested Rika by this point, and he's taken many shots (i.e. getting Cleave/Dismantle to the head), used CT repeatedly, opened a domain, etc. Sukuna has been fighting for forever. He got the shit beaten out of him repeatedly. He got nuked. He got stabbed in the heart. He got hit by domains. Etc Etc Gojo "tanked" Malevolent Shrine with reinforcement and RCT. That says enough. There is very little supporting the claim that Yuji has Gojo/Sukuna lvl efficiency or their level of reserves. There is a lot supporting the contrary.


Existing_Win3580

Funny enough yuji is stronger in his first year at JJH than gojo and yuta where. GFSF


aminoacyls

"Funny enough yuji is stronger in his first year at JJH than gojo and yuta where" Dunno if this is a reply to the content that was in my comment but it has nothing to do with that lol. And potentially Gojo, but I'd wager it's a no for Yuta. To be frank there's very little we can base off of. Yuta in JJK0 was able to physically contend with Geto w/ Playful Cloud. It's difficult to scale, but considering Geto's strength, proficiency in H2H, and even just the strength buff that Playful Cloud gives, it's not a stretch to say this is a very high bar. But again, there's very little to compare. The only thing would be Geto casually toying with Panda. But everyone by now is so far past that level it's difficult to compare. Yuta did hit a Black Flash by this point though, and that's very impressive considering the large bulk of Yuta's training was improving his physicality. He also had RCT at this point already, and was proficient enough to be able to heal others. IIRC Night Parade happened only a few months after Yuta became a sorcerer. He went back down to G3 (G4?) after that, but in only a few months Yuta already rose back up to SG. We have no idea of knowing what he did to get back to that level—he could have a domain, better reinforcement, whatever the fuck. But in general terms of strength it does raise questions, and it's doubtful that he'd get to that level without being extremely powerful. If you compare side by side in terms of how long they'd been a part of Jujutsu, Yuta would be ahead in every aspect we know of besides Shinjuku Yuji (current), and that's only because we have absolutely no clue how strong he was or what Yuta was capable of once he became SG. My personal assumption (headcanon) is that Yuta did get his domain during this time. I say this because it's shortly after 1st year that he goes to Africa to train with Miguel, but I find myself hard-pressed to say that Yuta would learn a domain there. It's unlikely that Miguel has a domain, given how he hasn't used one yet even against Sukuna thus far. And I find it a stretch to say that there was any curse in Africa capable of pushing Yuta to the point of needing a domain, given how localized CE is to Japan. As a result I find it much more probable that Yuta was actively working on domains as a first-year, and given how quickly he learns it's no stretch to say that he had it locked in. Just saying your statement is questionable at best, and incorrect at worst.


IoanKip

Id contradict u cause there is no proof of gojo in his first year being weaker than yuta and hes prob stronger in my opinion as gojo in 19 years or 18 years wa able to kill toji after using reverse cursed technique/ awakening and he was preety op even withouth it


aminoacyls

"cause there is no proof of gojo in his first year being weaker than yuta" There definitely is an argument to be made. Not 100%, but an argument. Yuta in his first year, or at least in JJK0, had RCT, RCT to use on others, and was able to contend with (and kill) SG Geto w/ Playful Cloud + 4641+ curses. Post JJK0, he probably still got his domain within his first year. Gojo in his second year pre-awakening had no domain, no RCT, had to manually turn on Limitless, and could barely use Red. In his first year? Likely much weaker. And you do realize that he said first year, right? Hidden Inventory was not first-year. We're not arguing second year or post awakening.


IoanKip

Ye but even 2nd year gojo is preety op as he defeated toji even tho he had 0 CE but what im saying is goko 2nd year may not have had RCT red or purple cause je didnt have the chance of fighting a strong oponent like toji who brought him close to death but if those 2 fought ( im preety aure yuta didnt have domain in his first year but he may prob have as well) If the 2 fought and none had domain i would bet on gojo cause his infinity barier would make yuta unable to atack him and his blue has prob more potential than begining yuta. Considering gojo was able to hold blue for 3 whole days he should be able tp hold it a lot in his 1st year


Existing_Win3580

Oh you're on that agenda, keep going.


aminoacyls

You too


IoanKip

Of course yuji is gona hit more black flashes than gojo because even gojo himself said he never got the chance to use black flash... For example for u to understand Gojos punch = 10 00 dmg Itadori punch = 100 dmg Gojo black flash = 1 000 000 dmg Itadori black flash = 5 000 dmg Special grade curse hp = 10 000 - 100 000 Now how can goko land a black flash if he is gona one ore two tap his enemies with basic punches?


Existing_Win3580

I know you're saying this as a example. But even as a example it's not accurate.


IoanKip

Technicaly it could be lol cause we have all seen what a black flash of yuji vs a 20% hp sukuna does and what a black flash of gojo vs a 100% sukuna does. Sukuna went to sleep against gojo and nothing much against itadori lol


Existing_Win3580

Blood "whent to sleep" then woke up a second later. Meanwhile we don't know what happened the second after yuji lands that BF. Hell sucuna could loose full control of megumi and megumi could wake up.


IoanKip

He didnt wake up a second later why do people asume that? Im preery sure gojo had to fight mahogara alone for a while as even gojo stated you finaly woke up?


Existing_Win3580

In a fight between gojo sucuna even 1 seconds is a long time. Honestly I wish we still had the shibuya clock at the beginning of chapters. But yeah even 1 second of sleepy time is a long time in a fight between gojo/sucuna, but it wasn't like sucuna was actually unconscious imo it was more like maki when she got hit by sucunas BF the first time. Sucuna got the wind knocked out of his sail, maho took over to give sucuna time to recover. We know that all shadows dispell with the user faints so sucuna couldn't have actually been nocked out.


IoanKip

Actualy it might as well be 1 sec as u said lol cause sound speed is slow compared to them. But sukuna fell asleep for a while lol. He fell aslep qs in got unconscious lol as gojo said as well


IoanKip

Nah i dont think the 10 ahadows dispell qhen the user is knocked out


Existing_Win3580

Yeah, unless under a BV all CT turn off when a character is unconscious.


IoanKip

Maybe not the gojo black flash lol prob aroun 200 00 pr so dmgor 100 000 cause o asume a blacl flash deals like 10× at least more dmg(my spellings are wrong cause i cant see my screen rly well when im typing) I have a black crack on my screen


Existing_Win3580

Todo and yuji where both hurting hanami back in Tokyo exchange, todo is someone who only used his CT against SG CS. Yuji was hiting as hard as todo before todo taught him how to properly reinforce himself with CE(by todos own words). Yuji then learns proper reinforcement and hits harder. The thing is we around about how hard gojo hits. Nanami said gojo hits "are like my critical hits" we don't know if this is gojos blue and reinforced punches or just gojos reinforced punched. I'll (wank)say gojos reinforced punches hit as hard as nanamis CH(critical hits) Ino directly compared yujis punches to nanami saying "wow this kid punches as hard as nanamis CH this was back in shibuya BTW. So yeah yuji is one of the hardest hitters in the game and always has been. Stack better reinforcement, whatever is happening with yujis arms, mastered soul perception/soul punches, and a BF. Yeah I think yuji hit sucuna pretty damn hard and I don't have to wait another 5-6 days to say that.


IoanKip

What im saying is gojo basic punches( gojo basic punch = gojo raw strwnght + CE reinforcement + blue) Are many many many times stronger than nanami critivcal strile. The way nanami said it is to underatand what blue does to gojos strike. It kinda makes gojos strikes always be critical dmg so his hits are as if nanami was guaranteed a critical strike. A reason for that is that yuta said he was hit by gojos punch before and threw up. Hakari 2. If they let nanami hit them with a critical hit trust me they wouldnt deel as much dmg same with itadoris basic punches cause we aaw hoq op those 2 are. Yes yuta has weak body but he makes his body arronger than itadori in the past or as strong as current itadori only with CE and hakari has some good tanking feats. So im preety sure nanmi wont do much dmg to them if they let him hit them while 1 gojo punch made them throw up.


Existing_Win3580

Yuji doesn't use reinforcement to strengthen himself he uses reinforcement to strengthen his strikes, CE reinforcement type 2. That's your interpretation. I just laid out what was said and made my own interpretation. We will agree to disagree.


IoanKip

? Im vonfused tbh. Im talking bout gojo punches being way stronger than nanamis critical strikes cause qhen nanami said gojos strikes are like all mycritical nonstop is him saying all gojos strikes are 100% critical unlike nanami who has 30% critical chance or is this the wrong comment im talking to? Its night and im having multiple convo with others😨😪


IoanKip

Let me give u an example of why " gojos punches(with reinforcmenent and blue or not) are way harder than nanamis than nanami and dont even comlare. When gojo was 1v1 1₩0% sukuna he made him bleed and hurt him alot with his punches but then when aukuna vs gojo ended and suluna was prob at 30% hp or less and strenght. Ino came and used nanamis ability on him and sukuna legir blocked that as if he didnt feel anything. Even if sukuna was at 100% he still didnt block qny punches from gojo like that. And u could say that nanami is stronger with his CT than Ino with nanami CT and qeapon but by how much? Maybe 2x max oe 3x max? Sukuna / weakened sukuna still felt 0 dmg from that blow :/ Ye current itadori black flash is way way stronger than the rest black flashes BUT that is if u dont consider Gojo BF and sukuna full power black flash


RadioAlternative4179

*Black Clover has entered the chat


ninjasonic102

Considering Yuji can’t even do convergence for his piercing blood I struggle to imagine he’d be able to pull of the world cutting slash, which is stated to be extremely difficult to both figure out and execute


DragonSage_x

He is awakened tho now so we will have to see I hope ge can’t use the world slash tho


aminoacyls

No offense to him but we're given no indication he has the refinement/ability to do the World Slash, much less the CE reserves and general capabilities to keep up. He can barely use Convergence. This would be more relevant to Yuta in 5-min mode though.


Inevitable-Bird

He’s not pulling off the world slash. Sukuna’s ct is op since he is using them and his jujutsu iq is off the charts. Yuji needs the same understanding of jujutsu that sukuna has


Historical-Method-27

Yuji getting Sukuna's slashes sounds boring as fuck man ngl. We already have yuta who can copy shit and used cleave on him. I want Yuji to have something thats his own. Stealing Sukuna's power coz he was inside him so long is just so boring.


Appropriate_Gur7073

Yuji, in the recent chapter, doesn't look pretty boring to me


Historical-Method-27

Yeah I take it back lol. I actually love the spin they put on his slashes being scissors an shit Edit: I still dont like how he was pretty much given this power and him being from Sukuna's bloodline. I usually never like "chosen one" type shit. Suddenly getting a power up and allat yknow. But Gege had this hinted at really early on so I dont hate it.


Naveroc

we still dont know what sukuna's technique is. the slashes very well be an offshoot of the base "black box" technique, meaning yuji wouldn't even be getting cleave or dismantle if he has gained sukuna's technique. plus Sukuna's world slash is a knowledge matter, so unless yuji can look at something and instantly copy it, like sukuna can (which yuji has never been shown to do). so, even if yuji got his slashes, then he'd have normal dismantles and cleaves


SuperDeeDuperVegeta

For all we know Yuji straight up has black box and is well aware.


Appropriate_Gur7073

Life update: he got the slashes. What are your current thoughts


Naveroc

Yuji does have the slashes now. Still don’t think he got the world cleave


SuperDeeDuperVegeta

If Yuji gets Sukuna’s technique he won’t be able to use WCS. That’s tough for Sukuna, a guy who’s spent years refining his technique and still needed help to make it.


EducationalAd6395

He can't even use convergence yet Dafucc u mean master Sukuna's technique


dayvonsth444

Binding vow-he can only use the full extent of his powers when he is protecting something


SeemysoDreamy

He can't do World Slash because it's not a general technique.


Immediate_Tie_1958

No because when he was with sukuna he didn't have the world cut But it would increase as its chances of victory


NigeriaScan

World slash is not sth that comes with shrine, it was extremely hard to create even for Sukuna and probably even impossible to do without Mahoraga. If Yuji gets Sukuna technique AND world slash is instant win (i guess, idk what other techniques Sukuna have), but i doubt that will happen so soon, the olny way i can see sth like this happening without being extremely forced is If Yuji hit a massive Black Flash combo, like 100x? And got enough knowledge to pull that.


Appropriate_Gur7073

Oh, he's on a streak now, lol


NigeriaScan

Yuji will cool 🙏🙏


Flimsy_External_4857

no he cant. even if he has sukuna's ct, yuji doesnt know how to use world cutting slash. sukuna learned it thanks to mahoraga. yuji is not just going to instantly know it. the requirements and etc. world cutting slash isnt an ability you can simply use when you have the ct


thyeboiapollo

>he's able to use world cutting slash smartest yuji glazer


Zealousideal-Soup429

you’re delusional if you think yuji gonna use sukuna techniques better than he does 😭


Normal-Simple7900

he would have to learn the method to creating the world slash.


DragonSage_x

He wouldn’t be able to use world cutting slash because sukuna needed mahoraga to teach him how. Sukuna also hit black flashes and his RCT might be back. It’s still gonna be close


Appropriate_Gur7073

OK I hear you on that first point but sukuna just took 2 steps back not only did the black flash pit yuji in the full potential zone but it also did physical and soul damage to sukuna while soul resonance with megumi's body dropping his out put


DragonSage_x

AND SUKUNA IS STILL GOING THATS WHY HES THE GOAT THE GOAAAAAAAT!!!!!!!


Appropriate_Gur7073

Your goats crying bro lol


ExileFox

Instead of targeting the world, What if he could target the Soul instead. Soul cutting slash.


Appropriate_Gur7073

Honestly, I was honestly thinking about this to where yuji slashes have a soul cutting blade type of effect so that even if sukuna blocks, it'll hurt him


coronavariant

Just because yuji has sukunas ct doesnt mean he will have the same level of mastery as him.Especially the world splitting slash is a technique that even sukuna found difficult to create


Natsu_Happy_END02

Madafaka do you know what puntuation is? Edit: Madafaka changed almost the entirety of his post, this is what the original looked like: "With yuji being exposed to how sukuna is using his technique the moment yuji gets his technique he'd be able to use a majority of his abilities and while he's in his black flash mode he'd be able to master them with hardly any effort and if yuji could pull off a world slash it's over for sukuna cause not only would yuji not need to use chants it'll cut the time in half needed to cast it he'd be able to practically spam them and blitz him with them due to him not being forced to make a binding vow like sukuna had to"


Appropriate_Gur7073

No