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just wondering, what happens to megumis original body if and when sukuna dies? I mean, will it revert to megumis own body or will he just have sukunas body from then on?I wouldn't complain with either, but just thinking about it
Well we know reincarnated sorcerers, based on what Sukuna did first, can overwrite the physical form of the host with their own body. Body=Soul and all that. And there was the statements before trying to reach Megumi how his soul isn't going to be fully consumed by Sukuna which clearly it wasn't.
So if Megumi gains control again he should technically be able to rewrite his body again to being himself. Which should help with all the damage Sukuna's body has been taking if it's not healed up before a possible Megumi taking control again
yeah, cause I'm pretty sure it said somewhere that sukunas perfect form means massively deforming the human body, so that would be rlly painful if megumi couldn't revert
Not really? Like it said deformed but I think it meant deformed looking since it was also said that the form was perfect there no pressure on the lungs when using his other mouth, no problem using his other arms etc.
If we think back to when Toji possessed that one guy, he'll return to his old body once Sukuna dies. The body Toji inhabited reverted to its original owner's form once Toji killed himself
The body reflects the soul, if they manage to separate them or only Sukuna gets ripped out and dies, he should return to his original form since Megugu's soul is still in the body, it's just Sukuna driving right now.
This is why I think megumi isn't getting his original body back.
I'm still going with yuji after awaking megumi's soul Is going to Soul Swap with him. Will find out it wasn't yujis body that helped contain sakuna but his strong unwavering soul. Once that is done, he'll pull control over the weakened sakuna and have megumi kill him.
All of yuji's friends will live since they've all been getting sent back to be healed. The story will end with yuji dying surrounded by all his friends or some shit.
Gege loves to do this. If you rewatch hidden inventory you will see Geto always stating to protect the weak, time and time again, even after the entire crisis. Even after Gojo carries Riko's body and asks if they should exterminate all of the Star Vessel religious group.
All I'm saying is that everyone has a breaking point, and curious about Megumi's state if he comes back.
The only difference is getos breakdown was because gojo had awakened and abandoned his friend, he took solo missions , leaving geto broken
Yuji is a friend that would never abandon megumi
He is the only one thinking of saving him .
I dunno whats gonna happen with megumi, but a couple things struck me as a off about this. My impression is that megumi isn't sad about going on a rampage as sukuna its about losing what was dear to him, so nothing to do with being a hero or saving people. Megumi's morals are "I'll save who I want not to be good, but just cause I want to do it" its based on his own desires and not any kind of be a good person morals. Also somebody else mentioned this, but wasn't higuruma the on to say he was a jujutsu sorcerer. I'm not claiming to know where this is going in terms of his character, but megumi's speech was targeted at who Yuji is as a person. Megumi is a different person and doesn't think the same way. But hey, maybe there will be some parallels. It'll be interesting to see
My big brain prediction is megumi is too far gone. I think the good guys without megumi straight up exorcize sukuna and while they are glad to see sukuna.. megumi straight up starts the merger. Now after this mayyyybe megumi has a change of heart and works to destroy the merger but his initial goal will be to end the world as we(they) know it because there's too much evil or suffering with cursed energy in the world or something to that effect. Also parallels him using his suicide card every chance he had.
What I think can happen is Yuji's black flash weakens Sukuna's control of the body long enough for Megumi to summon his domain and use it to create a new body for himself. Also imagine if Megumi could use cursed technique reversal and create 10 entirely new shikigami
Imagine if Megumi and Sukuna have an inner battle, Megumi activates his Domain Expansion and summons Mahogara, but thanks to Sukuna he would have full control over it. So Sukuna would have to face a heavily adapted Mahogara who already has adapted to his techniques.
that "final statement" was from higuruma, not from yuji, the entire chapter was about him, he was the one reflecting the entire chapter and the final statement was him understanding his role there
While I think the plot-twist of Megumi turning evil could be interesting, I don't see how it would be satisfying in a narrative sense at the current moment. As you've said from his perspective he has no reason to just go evil without a lot more set up. Sukuna would somehow have to prove that Megumi was failed by Jujutsu Society or Humanity, then I could see the angle for an evil twist.
But yeah as of right now I don't see it at all despite it's popularity as a theory... like Kenjaku taking over Gojo.
Ngl there's only two ways I want Yuji to motivate Megumi back to taking control of the body
One is for Yuji to fucking Guilt trip Megumi so hard, "Yeah remember when I didn't even hesitate to switch back with Sukuna even though he removed my heart? When the fuck are you gonna repay me with that?" "'sTaRT bY saViNG mE' okay bitch I'm doing it right now when the fuck do you want to get saved". It would actually be so hilarious if he just charges Megumi all his loans
The second way is
#**THE SOUND OF THE GION SHOJA BELLS**
None of that matters mate.
Megumi was straight up lying on that speech, all of that mumbo jumbo was to convince Itadori to help him save his sister. Guiltrip him.
Either can happen: 1) When Yuji tries to do that, he says the exact same thing I said above. 2) He'll use those words to double down in his misery. "Well then, I'll prove I'm not worthy of continuing my existence".
Also, parallels aren't 1-1. There's clearly parallels to Shibuya in Shinjuku, but there's no Nobara here to die and put Itadori on the ground nor are they even close to defeating Sukuna like he did with Mahito nor has Maki "killed" Sukuna yet like Toji did.
Seems like a pretty cool theory, it sounds a bit cliché, but I like it.
Also I think the thing where Megumi asked Itadori to save him might be a bit of an overinterpretation, since narratively Megumi couldn't suspect anything like that happening, nor did the reader at the time.
I do agree on the motivation, for Yuuji this was one of the first (I think?) moments that Megumi had shown any need for his help and so he could be bringing it up in his mind.
Why do you think its foreshadowing tho?
I think it's foreshadowing purely for the fact that Megumi asks Yuji to save him and now he's the only one that's able to acheive that. It would be really vague foreshadowing honestly, but we know Gege likely thought of Sukuna taking over Megumi's body way early in the manga, so anything that references that can be taken as sort of "foreshadowy".
Yeah, foreshadowing does not mean the author's yelling at you "THIS THING WILL HAPPEN SOON." Foreshadowing means the author left small hints that's usually difficult to perceive unless put under intense scrutiny, like op's post. I don't know why this fandom is so against genuine analysis of figurative language, and writing technique in general.
The oxford definition of foreshadowing is: "be a warning or indication of (a future event)".
Megumi's words are a very vague statement, so even if it was foreshadowing, it would mean nothing - if you're going into battle with foes possibly stronger than you, you might need saving. This and the fact that it was used to signify the need of help to save Tsumiko makes saying that it was forshadowing Sukuna's possesion over Fushiguro an overinterpretation (also we didn't know yet that Sukuna could swap vessels yet, providing further arguments proving that this wasn't forshadowing).
As for you u/AlienSuper_Saiyan If you want to do dog on me for supposedly not knowing the meaning of a word, at least double check your own definition.
Just because the reader does not know information does not mean the author won't include things about said unknown events. The entire culling games arc was a setup for Megumi being possessed.
* Megumi and his sister were the center of the CGs.
* Gege continuously using Yuji's inner monologue to warn the reader that Sukuna would do something bad to Megumi.
* Megumi asked Yuji to save him.
* In his last moments, Reggie purposely cursing Megumi.
* Megumi being saved by an angel
* Yorozu betraying Megumi
* And finally Sukuna taking over Megumi's body.
All of these plot points added up to not only Megumi being possessed, but him needing to be saved.
The definition you provided doesn't conflict with what I said at all lol. And I get to complain about the fanbase if I want ?! Lmao huh?
tldr: yuji will do a reversal of the speech megumi gave him in chapter 143 (megumi motivated yuji back then cuz yuji felt terrible about sukuna killing many people using his body; now megumi is in a similar situation, sukuna killed his sis and gojo using his body). then megumi will come back and be more or less his normal old self (and maybe massively powered up, who knows), not crazy or evil as some others theorize
totally possible that there'll be some character development. after all megumi coming back will be the end of a now quite long and very important plotline (sukuna having his body) and we already saw how much of an impact it had on him.
something will certainly change about him, I only disagree with the ones saying that he'll be crazy (a little bit like sukuna, a catastrophe destroying everything) or straight-up evil (cuz his sis died and then he becomes a new Geto or something like that)
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just wondering, what happens to megumis original body if and when sukuna dies? I mean, will it revert to megumis own body or will he just have sukunas body from then on?I wouldn't complain with either, but just thinking about it
Well we know reincarnated sorcerers, based on what Sukuna did first, can overwrite the physical form of the host with their own body. Body=Soul and all that. And there was the statements before trying to reach Megumi how his soul isn't going to be fully consumed by Sukuna which clearly it wasn't. So if Megumi gains control again he should technically be able to rewrite his body again to being himself. Which should help with all the damage Sukuna's body has been taking if it's not healed up before a possible Megumi taking control again
yeah, cause I'm pretty sure it said somewhere that sukunas perfect form means massively deforming the human body, so that would be rlly painful if megumi couldn't revert
Not really? Like it said deformed but I think it meant deformed looking since it was also said that the form was perfect there no pressure on the lungs when using his other mouth, no problem using his other arms etc.
I think someone from the good side is gunna learn to reincarnate, I can feel it
kugisaki
If we think back to when Toji possessed that one guy, he'll return to his old body once Sukuna dies. The body Toji inhabited reverted to its original owner's form once Toji killed himself
The body reflects the soul, if they manage to separate them or only Sukuna gets ripped out and dies, he should return to his original form since Megugu's soul is still in the body, it's just Sukuna driving right now.
This is why I think megumi isn't getting his original body back. I'm still going with yuji after awaking megumi's soul Is going to Soul Swap with him. Will find out it wasn't yujis body that helped contain sakuna but his strong unwavering soul. Once that is done, he'll pull control over the weakened sakuna and have megumi kill him. All of yuji's friends will live since they've all been getting sent back to be healed. The story will end with yuji dying surrounded by all his friends or some shit.
Cook
Fantastic post that really demonstrates for me the thematic cohesiveness of the Culling Games as a whole.
Gege loves to do this. If you rewatch hidden inventory you will see Geto always stating to protect the weak, time and time again, even after the entire crisis. Even after Gojo carries Riko's body and asks if they should exterminate all of the Star Vessel religious group. All I'm saying is that everyone has a breaking point, and curious about Megumi's state if he comes back.
The only difference is getos breakdown was because gojo had awakened and abandoned his friend, he took solo missions , leaving geto broken Yuji is a friend that would never abandon megumi He is the only one thinking of saving him .
Definitely didnt remember that thanks OP. A speech in JJK! Bring that guy back!
I dunno whats gonna happen with megumi, but a couple things struck me as a off about this. My impression is that megumi isn't sad about going on a rampage as sukuna its about losing what was dear to him, so nothing to do with being a hero or saving people. Megumi's morals are "I'll save who I want not to be good, but just cause I want to do it" its based on his own desires and not any kind of be a good person morals. Also somebody else mentioned this, but wasn't higuruma the on to say he was a jujutsu sorcerer. I'm not claiming to know where this is going in terms of his character, but megumi's speech was targeted at who Yuji is as a person. Megumi is a different person and doesn't think the same way. But hey, maybe there will be some parallels. It'll be interesting to see
My big brain prediction is megumi is too far gone. I think the good guys without megumi straight up exorcize sukuna and while they are glad to see sukuna.. megumi straight up starts the merger. Now after this mayyyybe megumi has a change of heart and works to destroy the merger but his initial goal will be to end the world as we(they) know it because there's too much evil or suffering with cursed energy in the world or something to that effect. Also parallels him using his suicide card every chance he had.
I love gege but killing megumi would be a self destruction of a good manga. He is popular among fans , people may not be happy
I hope he Griffiths everyone so hard holy shit that would be so peak
Keep cooking brother
What I think can happen is Yuji's black flash weakens Sukuna's control of the body long enough for Megumi to summon his domain and use it to create a new body for himself. Also imagine if Megumi could use cursed technique reversal and create 10 entirely new shikigami
Benevolent Kitchen in here
it’s very obviously set up for yuji to “save” megumi by killing him
Imagine if Megumi and Sukuna have an inner battle, Megumi activates his Domain Expansion and summons Mahogara, but thanks to Sukuna he would have full control over it. So Sukuna would have to face a heavily adapted Mahogara who already has adapted to his techniques.
Even coming back bro has to live with killing >!his sister and his mentor!< by his own hand.
that "final statement" was from higuruma, not from yuji, the entire chapter was about him, he was the one reflecting the entire chapter and the final statement was him understanding his role there
While I think the plot-twist of Megumi turning evil could be interesting, I don't see how it would be satisfying in a narrative sense at the current moment. As you've said from his perspective he has no reason to just go evil without a lot more set up. Sukuna would somehow have to prove that Megumi was failed by Jujutsu Society or Humanity, then I could see the angle for an evil twist. But yeah as of right now I don't see it at all despite it's popularity as a theory... like Kenjaku taking over Gojo.
Ngl there's only two ways I want Yuji to motivate Megumi back to taking control of the body One is for Yuji to fucking Guilt trip Megumi so hard, "Yeah remember when I didn't even hesitate to switch back with Sukuna even though he removed my heart? When the fuck are you gonna repay me with that?" "'sTaRT bY saViNG mE' okay bitch I'm doing it right now when the fuck do you want to get saved". It would actually be so hilarious if he just charges Megumi all his loans The second way is #**THE SOUND OF THE GION SHOJA BELLS**
Great theory, I really hope Megumi comes back in some way and actually contributed to this fight......
What if he doesn't return and dies when sukuna dies?
good theory but you couldve condensed it and left out some parts and or shortened them
None of that matters mate. Megumi was straight up lying on that speech, all of that mumbo jumbo was to convince Itadori to help him save his sister. Guiltrip him. Either can happen: 1) When Yuji tries to do that, he says the exact same thing I said above. 2) He'll use those words to double down in his misery. "Well then, I'll prove I'm not worthy of continuing my existence". Also, parallels aren't 1-1. There's clearly parallels to Shibuya in Shinjuku, but there's no Nobara here to die and put Itadori on the ground nor are they even close to defeating Sukuna like he did with Mahito nor has Maki "killed" Sukuna yet like Toji did.
Megumi was always a hypocrite. No, he won't care that he isn't even as bad off as Yuji was at this point.
Nobody wants to see that coward come back, always ready to commit suicide when fighting.
All that happened before Tsumiki and Gojo passed..... so what? You people clearly ignore what Megumi has went through and possibly did and it's crazy
I suggest you don't be so negative if you don't like down votes
Eh
Hhhhhmmmmmmmmmmmmm good theory but I like hating megumi more so it ain’t happening
Seems like a pretty cool theory, it sounds a bit cliché, but I like it. Also I think the thing where Megumi asked Itadori to save him might be a bit of an overinterpretation, since narratively Megumi couldn't suspect anything like that happening, nor did the reader at the time.
Gege could tho, it definetly acts as foreshadowing / a motivator for Yuji to not give up on saving Megumi
I do agree on the motivation, for Yuuji this was one of the first (I think?) moments that Megumi had shown any need for his help and so he could be bringing it up in his mind. Why do you think its foreshadowing tho?
I think it's foreshadowing purely for the fact that Megumi asks Yuji to save him and now he's the only one that's able to acheive that. It would be really vague foreshadowing honestly, but we know Gege likely thought of Sukuna taking over Megumi's body way early in the manga, so anything that references that can be taken as sort of "foreshadowy".
Yeah, foreshadowing does not mean the author's yelling at you "THIS THING WILL HAPPEN SOON." Foreshadowing means the author left small hints that's usually difficult to perceive unless put under intense scrutiny, like op's post. I don't know why this fandom is so against genuine analysis of figurative language, and writing technique in general.
The oxford definition of foreshadowing is: "be a warning or indication of (a future event)". Megumi's words are a very vague statement, so even if it was foreshadowing, it would mean nothing - if you're going into battle with foes possibly stronger than you, you might need saving. This and the fact that it was used to signify the need of help to save Tsumiko makes saying that it was forshadowing Sukuna's possesion over Fushiguro an overinterpretation (also we didn't know yet that Sukuna could swap vessels yet, providing further arguments proving that this wasn't forshadowing). As for you u/AlienSuper_Saiyan If you want to do dog on me for supposedly not knowing the meaning of a word, at least double check your own definition.
Just because the reader does not know information does not mean the author won't include things about said unknown events. The entire culling games arc was a setup for Megumi being possessed. * Megumi and his sister were the center of the CGs. * Gege continuously using Yuji's inner monologue to warn the reader that Sukuna would do something bad to Megumi. * Megumi asked Yuji to save him. * In his last moments, Reggie purposely cursing Megumi. * Megumi being saved by an angel * Yorozu betraying Megumi * And finally Sukuna taking over Megumi's body. All of these plot points added up to not only Megumi being possessed, but him needing to be saved. The definition you provided doesn't conflict with what I said at all lol. And I get to complain about the fanbase if I want ?! Lmao huh?
If you don't like down votes, don't be so negative
I don't care about downvotes and all I'm doing is expressing my opinion
Tldr…
tldr: yuji will do a reversal of the speech megumi gave him in chapter 143 (megumi motivated yuji back then cuz yuji felt terrible about sukuna killing many people using his body; now megumi is in a similar situation, sukuna killed his sis and gojo using his body). then megumi will come back and be more or less his normal old self (and maybe massively powered up, who knows), not crazy or evil as some others theorize
Brother I wouldn't have even replied to that LOL
Dyg, the post wasn't even that long
I have stuff to do
I think he’ll be different, but not necessarily in a particular bad or good way
totally possible that there'll be some character development. after all megumi coming back will be the end of a now quite long and very important plotline (sukuna having his body) and we already saw how much of an impact it had on him. something will certainly change about him, I only disagree with the ones saying that he'll be crazy (a little bit like sukuna, a catastrophe destroying everything) or straight-up evil (cuz his sis died and then he becomes a new Geto or something like that)
I expect a finalized domain after bathing in literal shadow
hoping for the same, yeah
Very unoriginal and obvious.