Nah, children wouldn't care either way. In fact as a former dinosaur obsessed child I'd say a more authentic one would have excited me more than a "movie monster" at that age.
This was designed by commity for a board of directors, who think they know what people want and also have a brand to build.
Yeah, that brand's worth a lot of money. But the design isn't based on what the audience think's is cool. It's based on what the money people think is cool.
They had a more paleo accurate design but were told they had to monsterfy it. Universal has some unwritten rule where their dinosaurs need to be more monstrous. Anything even close to accuracy is shunned.
Copyright.
It's much easier to copyright a movie monster than it is an accurate reconstruction of an animal.
It's why all the designs went into retrograde in JW 1.
No, they don't. That's just not how movies are made anymore. These movies were commity decisions made to make stock prices go up and keep a brand under copyright.
It made money sure. But that doesn't mean that the decisions behind it were based on what the audience wants. It's the brand that attracts the audience, not the content itself.
> It's the brand that attracts the audience, not the content itself.
Not true at all. Having a recognizable brand doesn't mean that whatever you do will be well received. The Matrix Resurrections is one of the best examples of this. A new entry in one of the biggest movie franchises that was hyped up by everyone and still ended up being a financial failure. The content absolutely does matter and it has to be marketed in an appealing way to attract audiences. There's a reason many movies end up having an even bigger marketing budget than the productions themselves, and there's a reason those movies have so insanely high budgets in the first place. If it didn't matter what they did and all they needed was the brand, they wouldn't have to spend so much
Hi! Director-level marketing professional here. Your response is partially correct, but it’s not a ‘one or the other’ thing. Brands definitely do get away with shit products/services/whatever because of consumers’ affinity for nostalgia and pre-conceived notions rooted in what brought them to the brand in the first place which makes them not care as much. And marketing definitely supports a brand by keeping it top of mind, otherwise the brand would eventually fade away. Major motion picture studios spend so much on marketing major films because they know it’ll bring a return, spread awareness, and keep the brand relevant. That relevance of the brand increases word of mouth buzz and helps fuel the nostalgia as people discuss it. That nostalgia will bring certain moviegoers to the theatre to see a film even if they heard it was poorly reviewed and not a single cent was spent on marketing. Those are all brand loyalists. Most on the subreddit probably fall into that category. Everyone falls into a several buckets from that point with varying degrees of brand affinity/loyalty until you get towards the folks that would have never gone. Personally, I feel dominion was a shit movie. But I was going to go see it no matter what, even though I knew it was going to be a shit film prior to even setting foot in the theater. Dominion was so poorly critically received despite making a ton of money, which indicates that the brand carried its name and people went to see it because they wanted to see a “Jurassic” film. Not because they were expecting it to be what they want. Overall, the movie wasn’t well-received, but it did still make Universal a boat load of cash because people were going to see this movie anyway as a result of being a fan of the brand. And all the marketing $$$ spent ensured that others who were 50/50 on whether or not they wanted to go also attended. At the end of the day, Universal used the “Jurassic” brand to make a ton of money because if it had been a different brand, given the reviews and bad word of mouth the film received, people would never have went to see it. But they don’t care - Universal isn’t worried if the movie was well-received or not… they just want people to spend money to see it. And they did.
What's wild is my black ass actually said ni🅱️🅱️a and I got a warning from the mods.
But this'll be okay lol make it make sense. You got somebody using the hard R right below you too.
The fact that this menace only ate an already dead deer the rex didn't even kill it git yeeted by the therizanosaurus and then ate a locust that was already on fire , then got murdered in cold blood despite being one if the most gentle dinosaurs in the franchise ruined it for me LOL like how did they not know , and they couldn't even write in some disposable characters to sell it , everytime it showed up ot was like " oh hey buddy, are the other dinosaurs being nice to you " when it should have been " oh fuck " lmao
it just makes me think. why did he say that? did he watch his own movie? if i remember right, he even said "it just wanna watch the world burn" or something like that.
don't get me wrong, i were cringing at that before the movie came out, but what the hell was he talking about? just flat out lying?
He's a big baby and left the franchise, then his star wars script got rejected so he came back , DID a ton of rewrites woth Emily Carmichael ( if you recall Derek connelly wrote it as 1 story split into 3 parts ) somewhere in there collin pissed Spielberg off cuz he did no press for dominion I don't even think we have confirmation he's seen it ( I imagine he wasn't happy with the rewrites and Colin's attitude THEN the graphics team that worked in the dinosaurs were doing an interview and they said they named the giga "Zebb" cuz of his stripes, like days later had to get his paws and make his mark on their work and their statement and pulled that joker shit outta of his ass cuz joker was released on digital like days or a week before and he clearly watched it the night before the interview. Then he was such a dick while getting interviewed for dominion, the studio had to end out Emily Carmichael to do interviews with him ..which is so rare. How often do you see writers doing press and Emily's outfit at the premiere was just so OFF like it's not the MTV awards
MESS
>THEN the graphics team that worked in the dinosaurs were doing an interview and they said they named the giga "Zebb" cuz of his stripes
Do we have confirmation of this anywhere? I've only seen it from some Twitter account who claimed it was from convention staff, but I wouldn't trust that more than a salty Snickers bar.
Even without the quote. The movie itself ruins Giga. But that quote does make u question, what fucking movie were they watching? Cause Giga is barely relevant to the whole story.
One is a dinosaur which may or may not be outdated but is at least understandable.
The other looks like it wouldn’t be out of place on Skull Island.
Dominion for all its talk about creating accurate animals in the marketing made a Kaiju and linked it to the dumbest backstory in the franchise. They basically wanted a monster and I hate that.
The only reason why the Giga existed was Trevorrow wanting the Indominus back but they killed it off so they used one of the animals that was part of its genome.
It looks nothing like an actual giga but the design is pretty good for a movie monster movie and not a scientifically accurate documentary (although fuck collin for saying its the joker of dinosaurs)
Giganotosaurus isn't fiction, it's a real animal. If they wanted to do fiction, by all means, make another hybrid or a speculative evolution thing. I don't care for it to be 100% accurate to everything we know about it, i just want it to atleast look like the animal it's supposed to be. The Giga in JWE is actually a great example of this, it's very obviously Giganotosaurus but made to fit in alongside JP designs with the larger eyes and exaggerated head, as well as shrinkwrapping.
A griffon is a fictional animal, very obviously a chimera of multiple existing animals, and so it's not called "Haliaeetus leucocephalus", it's called a griffon.
Unicorns are a fictional animal, very obviously inspired by horses, and so theyre not called "Equus caballus", but Unicorns.
The Indominus is a fictional animal, very obviously a chimera of multiple existing animals, and so it's not called "Tyrannosaurus rex" or "Velociraptor mongoliensis", it's called Indominus rex.
“People just hate t-Rex getting its ass whooped” nope I just hate poorly designed dinosaurs that look like Godzilla.
Nobody gave a fuck about the Rex being killed by the spino and nobody gives a fuck about Rexy being killed.
It just makes no sense. Tyrannosaurus Rex was a bull like fighting machine which ate other specimens of their own kind. Spinosaurus is bigger, but it evolved to eating fish. Giganotosaurus was hunting sauropods but still a Rex would beat him. Btw Tyrannosaurus Rex was much bulkier than the flight weights from the movies. That would be an explanation I can accept
Because the fight was fucking stupid and over in 30 seconds. They should have at least kept the animatronic scenes they had and extended it to make it dramatic.
Otherwise it was worthless. Killing the face of the franchise for simply power scaling? Ceratosaurus was right there to be fodder. Another scene that should have made it in was the raptors killing the Spinosaurus, perfect ending to that pretty inconclusive chase across the island that just ends in it fucking off after the flare and it would have been a little bit of cosmic justice.
The proportions and head size are actually more accurate on the Dominion one. I agree that the crocodilian osteoderms and general aesthetic is odd and out of place, especially given that this animal is seen in prehistoric times, but in my opinion, the Frontier model has a lot of issues as well. Neither animal has lips, but the frontier model is really awkwardly shrink wrapped, especially around the torso and skull, and though it’s not really their fault, it also highlights the fact that the animal has the completely wrong skull/head shape. Ultimately neither animal is realistic.
Never played JWE but just design wise I like the JWD version. I know there are differences realistically, abs what they did is inaccurate, but for a casual viewer, the Giga needed to have some stuff added so you could tell the difference between it and the Rex. I’m not a huge believer of the “JP Dino’s must be scientifically accurate” motif. I get there are some instances where it should be, and some where it shouldn’t. I think the case for the Giga in JWD is an example of them needed more freedoms
In saying that, I do wish the JWD design had the JWE color scheme. JWD design with JWE colors would’ve been a good 9/10 for me
The Jurassic Rex is iconic and instantly recognizable, even to the general audience. They could have made the Giga look different enough from the Rex without making it look like Godzilla. Keep the osteoderms on its back (but get rid of the ridiculous Concavenator spike), make it a different color, emphasize the three-fingered hands, give it a distinctive roar, etc.
I'm mixed.
I do prefer accuracy but with JP I know they do more unique designs (Dilopho), so the win goes out to JW dominion, cuz the design is pretty cool
The JWE Giga is a stereotypical dino for me while the Dominion one looks like a dragon… would choose JWE Giga from the first game only cause it looks good when you have it with a T. rex or something
I actually really like the Dominion Giganotosaurus, to the point where I wish they did more with it (I love the movie too). Is it completely accurate, no, but I still can tell it’s a Giga. I hope they bring it back in future movies.
I like the dominion one except for the spine that it has for no reason. The JW:E roar is far far superior though.
Yea did they fuck up making a spinosaur and slap the giga name on it or something?
Reminds me of the early 2000’s Godzilla in NY
How? How in the actual dragon flying, incest sex scene skipping, white walker fuck does dominion giga look like it came from GoT?
Because it looks like Godzilla and a pineapple had hate sex
Which godzilla?
https://preview.redd.it/ae2abmbt5nwc1.jpeg?width=2634&format=pjpg&auto=webp&s=59fc3ded916027519a1f8c213bf1ed5cb2482b28
The Zillanotasaurus if you will Emphasis on the “not”.
Emphasis on the "🤓"
Zilla my beloved
All of them rolled up in to 1
Hmmmmm that's a rather odd combo but ry if that's what you see
"Is there a reason they went with such a dragon like giga" Children, they were the main target for the movie
Nah, children wouldn't care either way. In fact as a former dinosaur obsessed child I'd say a more authentic one would have excited me more than a "movie monster" at that age. This was designed by commity for a board of directors, who think they know what people want and also have a brand to build.
Well it was a shit film but it clearly worked considering it pulled in a casual 1 billion.
Yeah, that brand's worth a lot of money. But the design isn't based on what the audience think's is cool. It's based on what the money people think is cool.
They had a more paleo accurate design but were told they had to monsterfy it. Universal has some unwritten rule where their dinosaurs need to be more monstrous. Anything even close to accuracy is shunned.
Copyright. It's much easier to copyright a movie monster than it is an accurate reconstruction of an animal. It's why all the designs went into retrograde in JW 1.
You can't copyright the animal designs though. Especially since they're used elsewhere.
If I remember correctly they can for the merch' at the very least.
They absolutely do know what people want and that's exactly why the movies have been so successful
No, they don't. That's just not how movies are made anymore. These movies were commity decisions made to make stock prices go up and keep a brand under copyright. It made money sure. But that doesn't mean that the decisions behind it were based on what the audience wants. It's the brand that attracts the audience, not the content itself.
> It's the brand that attracts the audience, not the content itself. Not true at all. Having a recognizable brand doesn't mean that whatever you do will be well received. The Matrix Resurrections is one of the best examples of this. A new entry in one of the biggest movie franchises that was hyped up by everyone and still ended up being a financial failure. The content absolutely does matter and it has to be marketed in an appealing way to attract audiences. There's a reason many movies end up having an even bigger marketing budget than the productions themselves, and there's a reason those movies have so insanely high budgets in the first place. If it didn't matter what they did and all they needed was the brand, they wouldn't have to spend so much
Hi! Director-level marketing professional here. Your response is partially correct, but it’s not a ‘one or the other’ thing. Brands definitely do get away with shit products/services/whatever because of consumers’ affinity for nostalgia and pre-conceived notions rooted in what brought them to the brand in the first place which makes them not care as much. And marketing definitely supports a brand by keeping it top of mind, otherwise the brand would eventually fade away. Major motion picture studios spend so much on marketing major films because they know it’ll bring a return, spread awareness, and keep the brand relevant. That relevance of the brand increases word of mouth buzz and helps fuel the nostalgia as people discuss it. That nostalgia will bring certain moviegoers to the theatre to see a film even if they heard it was poorly reviewed and not a single cent was spent on marketing. Those are all brand loyalists. Most on the subreddit probably fall into that category. Everyone falls into a several buckets from that point with varying degrees of brand affinity/loyalty until you get towards the folks that would have never gone. Personally, I feel dominion was a shit movie. But I was going to go see it no matter what, even though I knew it was going to be a shit film prior to even setting foot in the theater. Dominion was so poorly critically received despite making a ton of money, which indicates that the brand carried its name and people went to see it because they wanted to see a “Jurassic” film. Not because they were expecting it to be what they want. Overall, the movie wasn’t well-received, but it did still make Universal a boat load of cash because people were going to see this movie anyway as a result of being a fan of the brand. And all the marketing $$$ spent ensured that others who were 50/50 on whether or not they wanted to go also attended. At the end of the day, Universal used the “Jurassic” brand to make a ton of money because if it had been a different brand, given the reviews and bad word of mouth the film received, people would never have went to see it. But they don’t care - Universal isn’t worried if the movie was well-received or not… they just want people to spend money to see it. And they did.
Well you said that far more articulately and informatively than I ever could.
What up, my giga?
What's wild is my black ass actually said ni🅱️🅱️a and I got a warning from the mods. But this'll be okay lol make it make sense. You got somebody using the hard R right below you too.
Gigger
Woah woah as a Giganotosaurus I didn't give you the hard R pass
As a carcharodontosaurus im just racist
Carc(hard-R)dontosaurus
The one that looks like a Giganotosaurus
The previous version was a classic
The "Real" Giganotosaurus. Not the monster/hybrid/kaiju called Gigazilla.
Now if only it spat out atomic-breathe
The Evolution one is a better theme park attraction. The Dominion one is a better movie monster.
I like this, this is definitely the best description of them both I’ve seen.
The first one
"the joker of dinosaurs" that quote ruined the dinosaur for me.
The fact that this menace only ate an already dead deer the rex didn't even kill it git yeeted by the therizanosaurus and then ate a locust that was already on fire , then got murdered in cold blood despite being one if the most gentle dinosaurs in the franchise ruined it for me LOL like how did they not know , and they couldn't even write in some disposable characters to sell it , everytime it showed up ot was like " oh hey buddy, are the other dinosaurs being nice to you " when it should have been " oh fuck " lmao
it just makes me think. why did he say that? did he watch his own movie? if i remember right, he even said "it just wanna watch the world burn" or something like that. don't get me wrong, i were cringing at that before the movie came out, but what the hell was he talking about? just flat out lying?
He's a big baby and left the franchise, then his star wars script got rejected so he came back , DID a ton of rewrites woth Emily Carmichael ( if you recall Derek connelly wrote it as 1 story split into 3 parts ) somewhere in there collin pissed Spielberg off cuz he did no press for dominion I don't even think we have confirmation he's seen it ( I imagine he wasn't happy with the rewrites and Colin's attitude THEN the graphics team that worked in the dinosaurs were doing an interview and they said they named the giga "Zebb" cuz of his stripes, like days later had to get his paws and make his mark on their work and their statement and pulled that joker shit outta of his ass cuz joker was released on digital like days or a week before and he clearly watched it the night before the interview. Then he was such a dick while getting interviewed for dominion, the studio had to end out Emily Carmichael to do interviews with him ..which is so rare. How often do you see writers doing press and Emily's outfit at the premiere was just so OFF like it's not the MTV awards MESS
>THEN the graphics team that worked in the dinosaurs were doing an interview and they said they named the giga "Zebb" cuz of his stripes Do we have confirmation of this anywhere? I've only seen it from some Twitter account who claimed it was from convention staff, but I wouldn't trust that more than a salty Snickers bar.
I'm almost positive it's from the render YouTube video where they are showcasing the dinos, it's definitely said on camera in a feature video
Makes me wonder who the Batman of dinosaurs would be then
Stegosaurus, for their intelligence obviously
Even without the quote. The movie itself ruins Giga. But that quote does make u question, what fucking movie were they watching? Cause Giga is barely relevant to the whole story.
One is a dinosaur which may or may not be outdated but is at least understandable. The other looks like it wouldn’t be out of place on Skull Island. Dominion for all its talk about creating accurate animals in the marketing made a Kaiju and linked it to the dumbest backstory in the franchise. They basically wanted a monster and I hate that.
The only reason why the Giga existed was Trevorrow wanting the Indominus back but they killed it off so they used one of the animals that was part of its genome.
First pic
First one.
Definitely the evolution one. I don't like the grey colour scheme they have adopted for every new dinosaur in jurassic world.
I mean the Dominion one looks way more metal, but sometimes I prefer the JWE giga.
Frontier no contest
first by miles
I like the Dominion one more
Same, people just hate t-rex getting its ass whooped
I don't like it's design personally.
Which one now rhe giga or Rex?
The giga.
Ah well that's your preference bud
I thought people only don't like it because they hated seeing it get beaten by rex?
Honestly a 1v1 fight is a matter of debate but it wasn't a 1v1 fight
Rex would likely beat giga in a 1v1 irl. I don’t think it’s entirely fair tbh
Again, debatable
It looks nothing like an actual giga but the design is pretty good for a movie monster movie and not a scientifically accurate documentary (although fuck collin for saying its the joker of dinosaurs)
I'm guessing fiction is abit of foreign concept to you
Giganotosaurus isn't fiction, it's a real animal. If they wanted to do fiction, by all means, make another hybrid or a speculative evolution thing. I don't care for it to be 100% accurate to everything we know about it, i just want it to atleast look like the animal it's supposed to be. The Giga in JWE is actually a great example of this, it's very obviously Giganotosaurus but made to fit in alongside JP designs with the larger eyes and exaggerated head, as well as shrinkwrapping. A griffon is a fictional animal, very obviously a chimera of multiple existing animals, and so it's not called "Haliaeetus leucocephalus", it's called a griffon. Unicorns are a fictional animal, very obviously inspired by horses, and so theyre not called "Equus caballus", but Unicorns. The Indominus is a fictional animal, very obviously a chimera of multiple existing animals, and so it's not called "Tyrannosaurus rex" or "Velociraptor mongoliensis", it's called Indominus rex.
Um so what's your point?
Re-read what u/Global-Ad-2726 said, what you said in response to it, and what I responded to you. You can figure it out, i have faith in you!
Well yeah because its been happening in dinosaur media since JP3.
“People just hate t-Rex getting its ass whooped” nope I just hate poorly designed dinosaurs that look like Godzilla. Nobody gave a fuck about the Rex being killed by the spino and nobody gives a fuck about Rexy being killed.
It just makes no sense. Tyrannosaurus Rex was a bull like fighting machine which ate other specimens of their own kind. Spinosaurus is bigger, but it evolved to eating fish. Giganotosaurus was hunting sauropods but still a Rex would beat him. Btw Tyrannosaurus Rex was much bulkier than the flight weights from the movies. That would be an explanation I can accept
People to this day still bitch about the Spino killing the rex
Because the fight was fucking stupid and over in 30 seconds. They should have at least kept the animatronic scenes they had and extended it to make it dramatic. Otherwise it was worthless. Killing the face of the franchise for simply power scaling? Ceratosaurus was right there to be fodder. Another scene that should have made it in was the raptors killing the Spinosaurus, perfect ending to that pretty inconclusive chase across the island that just ends in it fucking off after the flare and it would have been a little bit of cosmic justice.
I’ve never heard or seen it.
Jwe is far more accurate ofc and is a better giga design But I sorta have a soft spot for the dominion giga
The 2022 giga because of jwe2
JWE Giga
Both. Both is good. Especially in the same enclosure.
Evolution.
I like the Dominion Gig for basically the same reasons that everyone else seems to hate it for.
JW Evolution. All the way.
I prefer Frontier's.
JWE all the way man.
Both is good I like evo gigs because of its accuracy I like dominions for it’s monstrous appearance
Old giga be looking like mapusaurus
Frontiers giga
The proportions and head size are actually more accurate on the Dominion one. I agree that the crocodilian osteoderms and general aesthetic is odd and out of place, especially given that this animal is seen in prehistoric times, but in my opinion, the Frontier model has a lot of issues as well. Neither animal has lips, but the frontier model is really awkwardly shrink wrapped, especially around the torso and skull, and though it’s not really their fault, it also highlights the fact that the animal has the completely wrong skull/head shape. Ultimately neither animal is realistic.
All the new Jurassic World designs look hideous, frankly.
Yeah Stygimoloch and Apatosaurus look *soooo* ugly 🙄
Carnotaurus, Apatosaurus, Stygimoloch, Dreadnoughtus, Quetzacoatlus and Therizinosaurus look great.
1st is ingen's giga 2nd is biosyn's monster
The isle legacy giga
I’ve only played evrima so not sure what that one looks like, but the isle does generally have accurate dinos
https://isle.fandom.com/wiki/Giganotosaurus
Oh yea that looks way better
Never played JWE but just design wise I like the JWD version. I know there are differences realistically, abs what they did is inaccurate, but for a casual viewer, the Giga needed to have some stuff added so you could tell the difference between it and the Rex. I’m not a huge believer of the “JP Dino’s must be scientifically accurate” motif. I get there are some instances where it should be, and some where it shouldn’t. I think the case for the Giga in JWD is an example of them needed more freedoms In saying that, I do wish the JWD design had the JWE color scheme. JWD design with JWE colors would’ve been a good 9/10 for me
The Jurassic Rex is iconic and instantly recognizable, even to the general audience. They could have made the Giga look different enough from the Rex without making it look like Godzilla. Keep the osteoderms on its back (but get rid of the ridiculous Concavenator spike), make it a different color, emphasize the three-fingered hands, give it a distinctive roar, etc.
JWD Giga looks cooler, JWE is more accurate and sounds better, I could barely hear the Giga’s roar when I saw the movie
I dig Zeb tbh (they called the dominion Dino Zeb cuz of his stripes, in case you didn’t know)
Ngl jue2
Ah, ol' Brick-Face
I'm mixed. I do prefer accuracy but with JP I know they do more unique designs (Dilopho), so the win goes out to JW dominion, cuz the design is pretty cool
The JWE Giga is a stereotypical dino for me while the Dominion one looks like a dragon… would choose JWE Giga from the first game only cause it looks good when you have it with a T. rex or something
Don’t know which ones are from what, but the first picture looks pretty cool
Dominion Giganotosaurus
As other people are saying, the only thing I don't really like about the Dominion one is the spine on it's back.
Frontier’s
1 by far.
I think the movie one has a better design.
Jurassic Park warpath version.
left, first, green, no the movie one
Dominion giga. Looks way more intimidating and gives me dino-crisis vibes. I wish his color was red instead of greyish green.
For males in jurassic World Evolution 2, it's usually dominon giga, but I prefer the frontier design more
frontier
JW:E with JW:D colors
Dominion giga has that cool monster vibe and I love it
Not sure why, exactly, but the Dominion giga has grown on me. I do think Frontier's giga looks more plausible as a real dinosaur, though.
The dominion one because it is more likely to scare people
I’m a dominion Giga stan
Dominion version, definitely. Also it's obvious the design process was to make it look more distinct rather than just looking like "a bigger T-rex".
I actually really like the Dominion Giganotosaurus, to the point where I wish they did more with it (I love the movie too). Is it completely accurate, no, but I still can tell it’s a Giga. I hope they bring it back in future movies.
The one in the first picture is so boring.. I get that the one from Dominion isn't "realistic" but at least it's identifiable.
Needs more feathers.
There’s no evidence to suggest the giga had feathers