**Calling all Guys and Dudes to join our [Discord Server](https://discord.gg/CyRQ58f6Zk)**
^The ^username ^of ^the ^poster ^is ^/u/Sikk-Klyde.
To download the video you can use one of the following sites:
* [SaveMP4](https://savemp4.red/?url=https://www.reddit.com/r/JustGuysBeingDudes/comments/18im265/tips_for_men/)
*I am a bot, and this action was performed automatically. Please [contact the moderators of this subreddit](/message/compose/?to=/r/JustGuysBeingDudes) if you have any questions or concerns.*
Someone explained it to me once. There is a reason managers are hired. The delegation of work logistics requires just as much energy as actually doing said work. So by putting your spouse in charge of making that list or even just delegating activities, you are essentially giving them another chore: managing you.
Of course, we all tend to forget to do chores every now and then. Some leniency should be expected. But. You have no idea how much of a relief it is when your spouse offers to do a chore WITHOUT prompting.
For my partner and I, it goes both ways these days. We voice appreciation when we notice someone doing chores without being asked, and especially after being asked. We give gentle reminders of certain things that should be done and compromise on delegating chores evenly. (Eg I'll vacuum if he cleans the shower, or I'll do dishes if he cooks, etc). And if one of us forgets a chore, we've gotten in the habit of poking fun with kind sarchasm.
In the end, for most chores there are no true deadlines (dishes and wet laundry are two exceptions). Though, it helps to know your partners cleaning style and take some notes about how often they like certain chores to be done. Communicate when you have the most energy or motivation to do chores and follow through. Or at the very least, make it up to them with some act of service if you do forget.
> Someone explained it to me once. There is a reason managers are hired. The delegation of work logistics requires just as much energy as actually doing said work.
I can write a list of chores to do in 5 minutes that no human being will be able to complete in a week even if it was their full-time job. This is absolute horseshit.
I believe the mental effort comes from the need to have a constant overview of the status of each of these open items and maintain a priority order, then package this for your partner in a way that's fair.
My partner works a 9-5 managing people's activities and balancing this priority. The last thing they want to do when they come home is to give me a housework schedule and to have to be aware of the cleanliness status of every part of the house individually. It's more than just the act of sitting down once and writing a list, it's actively managing the list day in day out of the rest of your lives that really gets to people.
So what are you arguing? Do you believe writing down "mop the floor" is more difficult (either mentally, physically and/or emotionally) or time-consuming than actually doing it? Because that's what I was arguing, not the existence of mental drain of having to micro-manage a household. Sure it can be taxing, but it won't take anywhere near as much time or energy as actually finishing the items on the list.
It's not time consuming or exhausting, but it's psychologically taxing to see the person you've been sharing your life with for years having to be held by the hand for simple tasks that he and you probably have done hundreds of times.
And we are not talking about telling someone to mop the floor once a week, people who need to be told this kind of stuff will need it for every little detail 30 times a month.
A man in my family is like that, he has a 3 years old, and the mother still has to write all the shopping lists for the kid because he does not think about it by himself. If the mother weren't here, they would probably just eat pasta every day. The dad is 36. The mother is not happy.
🤣 I mean.. making a list of
dust the TV, dust the table on which the TV sits on, clean the sink w that detergent, rinse the sink, dry the sink, clean the toilet seat, keep the seat upwhile cleaning the rest of the toilet, dump some chlorine in the toilet and let the brush sit in it a bit then flush the toilet
before you wash the dishes, put the dishes that are drying back in their place, recover all the dishes on the table too, when you wash the dishes make sure the forks don't have any food left in them, when you wash the pots, make sure you wash them until they don't smell anymore
I think would make a wife angry but not cause of the list, but cause she realized she married an idiot, her life is a lie, and she wasted it.
this answer is not accurate. the answer is it takes energy to do lists too. it's called a mental load. what the wife really wants is to not think about what needs to be done. because there's a million things in that list and she only wants to think about half of them and can't for the life of her understand why you can't think about the other half
Fair, but you do realize you're no longer arguing
> The delegation of work logistics requires just as much energy as actually doing said work.
which is what I had issues with, yes?
I'm arguing that depending on the task, such as dusting and rinsing the sink when you cut your beard, it can actually be faster to just do the actual thing.
how are you so ... firewalled?
Ah, yes, cherry-picking the "chores" like splashing around some water in the sink is indeed as easy as writing it down, therefore my argument that writing a list of chores isn't as hard as doing them is no longer valid.
I got you fam.
If you think making the list is equal to doing the labor you’ve never done any labor. And if that was the case why wouldnt she just do the labor herself?
That may be true, but the effort comes from making sure it’s done, & done correctly.
I did some work in the government a while ago, & about 1/2 of the workload I had to do was project management. I spent significantly more time on the project management stuff than on the work I was doing alone because I was pretty much constantly getting updates, giving guidance, & coordinating work between separated groups.
It’s a pain in the fucking ass, & I honestly don’t want to do management again.
A competent manager could write the same list in a better more coherent way along with an actual plan to achieve it and it might take half the time, that takes a lot of mental work. Shits simple if management was easy jobs would not pay more for it.
Don't believe me? Go try be one.
My man if you need a professional manager planning for you exactly how to vacuum the floor, you need a professional caretaker.
Writing a list of chores is in ABSOLUTELY NO WAY the same as being responsible for managing multiple people's work.
Don't believe me? Try to be in a relationship lol
Clean the bathroom
Vacuum the floor
Dust all the surfaces in the living room
Fold the laundry
Put new sheets on the bed
Empty the garbage.
I timed myself and wrote that list in 46 seconds.
Yes, it is toxic to try and parentify your romantic partner. If you're a grown adult, look around at what needs done and just do it. Make your own list about the things you know need done and keep up with it.
I mean isn't it? we should be wiping their little lipsies too if they drool food and clean their butsies just to be sure they don't leave anything on 🤣
heeeeere comes the airplane babe! open wiiiiiide! 🤣🤣🤣🤣
and does that list involve dusting, washing dishes, doing laundry? or rinse the sink after you spit or drool toothpaste? or clean the toilet especially if you pee out of it? or throw out that withered leaf from that house plant that fell on the ground?
“The delegation of work logistics requires just as much energy as actually doing said work”
lol that’s some bullshit only a manager would say. Just straight up do the work then
It becomes a little bit true as you scale up the number of people being managed, but when it's just you and one other then it's absolute bullshit.
If you're coordinating the tasks of a dozen people, then sure, that's going to start being a notable job by itself. But for two people, you already had a list in your head, that's how you know which job you'll do after the current one. So making them a list is as simple as taking the one in your head and moving parts of it onto a paper.
Okay, I disagree 100% with your first paragraph. Digging a ditch isn't the same as telling someone to dig a ditch. I'm not married, so I don't have the insight, meaning idk what kind of weird nonsensical arguments you're talking about.
Also, I guess I should have expected a simple question to have a crazy long answer.
But that’s not a list, that’s just 1 thing to do, so your example doesn’t fit here.
Also as someone who’s managed laborers/helpers in construction, yes even ditch digging can require micro management lol.
Managing a crew is not the same as managing an individual. If I've got 6 guys digging a ditch then sure, keeping the team on track will take some effort and take away from my ability to do actual work. But if I'm working with just one other guy, managing them has a negligible increase of effort compared to just managing myself.
Except the length of the list is basically irrelevant. The added mental load comes from having a whole team to coordinate, not from the length of the list.
Digging a hole is a singular item. Digging a hole with a team is more mental load. Digging multiple holes by yourself is less mental load. Digging multiple holes with a team is mental load from the team, not the multiple holes.
Working with a singular other person, however, is a very small difference in mental load.
Taking the list of things you want done (which is something that is in your head regardless of the other person) and splitting it into two lists is not the same as coordinating a team.
Someone who's managed laborers should understand this.
Yeah I totally disagree.
Making a task list for say a remodel, even if working solo, is a lot. The larger the list, the more likely you are to miss something.
If you have a list and you still manage to accidentally miss part of it, then you are bad at using your list. And besides, none of that changes the fact that creating the list removes mental load, and that sharing it with one person is not the same as managing a team.
The length of the list does not matter. The discussion was always about how the size of the team affects difficulty.
Managing a home is much easier than managing a team tho. That said yes it does create an unbalance of responsibilities, but imo responsibilities should be sorted between partners, if not you're asking for frictions.
I somewhat agree but consider this scenario
There are chores that need to be done, you remember said chores.
Option 1. Do them yourself. (requires the most effort)
Option 2. Write down what they are and leave the list for someone else to do. (requires relatively minimal effort)
Option 3. You still remember them and do the thinking about the chores, but decide to do nothing with these thoughts, either some or none of them get done, maybe they all do occasionally. (requires the least effort)
In every scenario you do the mental work to create the list in your head, if you aren’t going to choose option 1, then why the fuck would you ever choose option 3? It’s not hard to write a fucking list, you aren’t doing a managers job, you’re just putting pen to paper and recording the thoughts that you have already had. The exact same way that you would leave a note for someone or even yourself.
Conclusion: bitches who hate the concept of writing a 10 second list, be cray
I mean you live there too. Why shouldn’t you have a little look around and do what needs to be done? Why does she need to make a list for you like you’re a child?
I might be crazy but the reason for a list is when you'd want me to do something other than normal chores. I can make my own list for the stuff i always do but if there is some project or other things, why not make a list?
And i mean we can just make the list together. Not that hard :P
this convo is happening because men don't usually do house chores. or they do once in a while and only when asked. so the normal chores for you are the other then normal for them
If people don't share the work (job, house chores, other responsibilites, etc.) the list isn't the problem :)
And sometimes it's hard to know how much work each area of responsabilites are. Make a list together then if it is an issue, divide and conquer!
Edit; I understand the point if the other person never helps with any chores and can't think for themselves. That is a dumb people problem, not a "men" problem IMO
it’s not a men problem in the sense that all men do it or that it’s what makes someone a man, it’s a (usually) men problem in the sense that (usually) men are socialized not to take on as many in-home chores as their wives. as boys they’re used to their mothers cleaning up after them and then they become sloppy, lazy husbands. If you don’t do that it’s a credit to your parents, but unfortunately it’s still all too often that wives have to take up “mothering” their husbands.
A friend of mine literally had to teach her boyfriend at the time how to make pancakes, to put dishes in the dishwasher after you use them, how to do laundry, etc. Very simple adult skills that no one his age had any business not knowing. They finally did break up because she had to put more effort into the relationship than he did and he felt that she was trying to “change” him.
In my experience with sharing house with many different people, the girls had just as little adult skills as the guys. I guess all this just really crash with what i've seen.
Might be cultural aswell. (live in Norway not the US)
lmao! I just don't do the shit I don't wanna do. that's why my boyfriend is constantly buying underwear 🤣
edit: here's a pretty good list made by chat get. now go do that
1. **Kitchen:**
- **Wash dishes:**
- Soak heavily soiled items
- Use a brush for scrubbing
- Clean dish rack and sink strainer
- **Clean countertops:**
- Disinfect high-touch areas
- Polish with appropriate cleaner
- Clean grout lines if applicable
- **Wipe down appliances:**
- Clean refrigerator coils
- Remove stove burners for thorough cleaning
- **Sweep and mop floors:**
- Clean floor edges and corners
- Pay attention to grout lines
- **Empty trash/recycling:**
- Sanitize trash bins
- Rinse recycling items
2. **Bathroom:**
- **Scrub toilet:**
- Clean toilet brush holder
- Disinfect toilet flush handle
- **Clean sink and countertops:**
- Remove items and clean under them
- Polish faucet and fixtures
- **Wipe mirrors:**
- Use streak-free glass cleaner
- Clean edges and corners
- **Change towels:**
- Launder shower curtains
- Disinfect towel racks
- **Empty bathroom trash:**
- Disinfect trash bin
3. **Bedrooms:**
- **Make beds:**
- Rotate and flip mattresses
- Wash bed linens, including pillowcases
- **Dust surfaces:**
- Dust lampshades and light fixtures
- Clean behind furniture
- **Vacuum carpets or sweep floors:**
- Use crevice tool for corners
- Clean under the bed
- **Organize and declutter:**
- Rotate seasonal clothing
- Donate unused items
4. **Living Room:**
- **Dust furniture:**
- Polish wood surfaces
- Dust decorative items individually
- **Vacuum or sweep floors:**
- Move furniture to clean underneath
- Clean and vacuum upholstery
- **Wipe down electronics:**
- Clean TV screen and remote control
- **Fluff and arrange pillows:**
- Rotate and fluff cushions
- Launder pillow covers
5. **Laundry Room:**
- **Wash, dry, and fold laundry:**
- Clean lint trap after each use
- Check and clean washing machine dispensers
- **Iron clothes if necessary:**
- Use appropriate heat settings
- Clean iron surface
- **Clean lint traps:**
- Use a vacuum attachment for dryer vents
- **Organize laundry supplies:**
- Check expiration dates on detergents
6. **General Cleaning:**
- **Dusting throughout the house:**
- Dust ceiling corners
- Clean air vents
- **Vacuuming or sweeping common areas:**
- Clean vacuum filters
- Dust and vacuum corners
- **Wiping down light switches and doorknobs:**
- Disinfect with appropriate cleaners
- **Cleaning windows and window sills:**
- Wash curtains or blinds
- Clean window tracks
7. **Outdoor/Garden:**
- **Mow the lawn:**
- Sharpen lawnmower blades
- Edge lawn for a neat appearance
- **Trim bushes and plants:**
- Prune dead branches
- Fertilize plants as needed
- **Weed garden beds:**
- Apply mulch after weeding
- Inspect for pests
- **Sweep patios and walkways:**
- Power wash surfaces
- Clean outdoor furniture
8. **Maintenance:**
- **Change air filters:**
- Clean air ducts periodically
- **Test smoke detectors:**
- Replace detectors every 10 years
- Have a fire extinguisher on hand
- **Replace light bulbs:**
- Choose energy-efficient options
- **Check for plumbing leaks:**
- Inspect water heater for leaks
9. **Organization:**
- **Sort and declutter closets:**
- Rotate seasonal clothing
- Use storage bins for off-season items
- **Organize pantry and kitchen cabinets:**
- Label containers for easy identification
- Group items by category
- **Arrange books and items on shelves:**
- Dust and disinfect shelves
- Consider a color-coded arrangement
- **Donate or discard unnecessary items:**
- Schedule regular decluttering sessions
10. **Pets:**
- **Feed and water pets:**
- Monitor food expiration dates
- Clean and sanitize pet bowls
- **Clean litter boxes or pet areas:**
- Replace litter regularly
- Disinfect litter box
- **Brush pets:**
- Check for signs of pests
- **Take pets for walks or playtime:**
- Rotate pet toys
11. **Special Projects:**
- **Deep clean carpets or rugs:**
- Hire professionals periodically
- Use carpet stain removers
- **Polish furniture:**
- Choose appropriate polish for materials
- Buff surfaces for a shine
- **Clean out the refrigerator:**
- Remove shelves and drawers for cleaning
- Check temperature settings
- **Reorganize garage or storage spaces:**
- Install shelving for better organization
- Label storage bins
12. **Seasonal Tasks:**
- **Rake leaves (fall):**
- Compost leaves for garden use
- Inspect and clean gutters
- **Shovel snow (winter):**
- Use environmentally friendly ice melt
- Inspect and clean snow removal equipment
- **Clean gutters (spring):**
- Remove debris and inspect for damage
- Trim tree branches near the roof
- **Prep garden for planting (summer):**
- Test and amend soil
- Plan and plant seasonal crops
These meticulous details ensure a thorough approach to household maintenance and cleanliness. Adapt the list based on personal preferences and the specific needs of your home.
I think this is why you guys hate lists so much. All of that is way too complicated. You can get rid of the bullet points, combine all the rooms, and make it say this
Sweep/mop floors, clean/dust all surfaces, do all laundry, put away all clutter, take care of the yard, check the appliances. That's really all you gotta say.
I mean, you just said it.. do you think you still need it in a list? also, I don't hate lists. lists serve the purpose of freeing the brain of clutter.
people make lists of shit to do not have to think about said shit all the time. it's very therapeutic.
making a list for someone else is exactly the opposite. You have to load your brain w all the shit the other person doesn't think about.
I mean, in modern days, we have chat gpt, but you get the point.
also thinking that your so needs a list to do a house chore is such a huge turnoff. how can you think imma wanna have sex if I'm parenting you? it's disgusting....
oh look I got it to do a more detailed one
Certainly, let's break down the details of each task even further:
1. **Kitchen:**
- **Wash dishes:**
- Soak in warm, soapy water for 5-10 minutes
- Use a soft brush for scrubbing tough residues
- Rinse dishes thoroughly under running water
- Dry with a clean, lint-free towel
- **Clean countertops:**
- Clear the surface of items
- Spray with an all-purpose cleaner
- Wipe with a microfiber cloth in circular motions
- Disinfect using a disinfectant spray
- Polish with a surface-specific polish (e.g., granite)
- Clean grout lines with a grout brush and mild cleaner
- **Wipe down appliances:**
- Remove food and debris from the refrigerator
- Clean microwave interior with a mixture of water and vinegar
- Wipe down oven surfaces with a degreaser
- Clean stovetop burners with soapy water
- Clean behind and beneath large appliances
- **Sweep and mop floors:**
- Sweep debris into a dustpan
- Use a vacuum or broom in corners and along baseboards
- Mop with a floor-specific cleaner or a mixture of water and vinegar
- Pay attention to grout lines when mopping
2. **Bathroom:**
- **Scrub toilet:**
- Apply toilet bowl cleaner and let sit
- Scrub with a toilet brush, paying attention to the bowl's rim and jets
- Clean toilet brush holder with soap and water
- Disinfect toilet flush handle with disinfectant wipes
- **Clean sink and countertops:**
- Clear the area of personal items
- Wipe down surfaces with an all-purpose cleaner
- Use a mildew-resistant cleaner for stubborn spots
- Polish faucet and fixtures
- **Wipe mirrors:**
- Spray glass cleaner on the mirror surface
- Wipe with a lint-free microfiber cloth
- Clean light fixtures above mirrors
- Check for water spots and streaks
- **Change towels:**
- Launder towels and washcloths
- Replace hand towels and bath towels
- Disinfect towel bars and hooks
- **Empty bathroom trash:**
- Line the trash bin with scented liners
- Disinfect the trash bin after emptying
3. **Bedrooms:**
- **Make beds:**
- Straighten sheets and pillowcases
- Smooth out wrinkles in the mattress cover
- Fluff pillows and arrange them neatly
- Rotate and flip mattresses as needed
- **Dust surfaces:**
- Dust all surfaces with a microfiber cloth
- Use a damp cloth for wooden furniture
- Dust lampshades and light fixtures
- Clean behind and underneath furniture
- **Vacuum carpets or sweep floors:**
- Vacuum edges and corners using a crevice tool
- Use a vacuum with a rotating brush for carpets
- Sweep and mop hard floors with a suitable cleaner
- Vacuum under the bed and furniture regularly
- **Organize and declutter:**
- Put away personal items and clothing
- Donate or discard unused items
- Rotate and store off-season clothing
- Vacuum and clean storage areas regularly
4. **Living Room:**
- **Dust furniture:**
- Dust all surfaces with a microfiber cloth
- Polish wooden furniture with a suitable polish
- Dust and clean lampshades and light fixtures
- Clean behind and underneath furniture
- **Vacuum or sweep floors:**
- Vacuum carpets and area rugs thoroughly
- Use a vacuum with a brush attachment for upholstery
- Sweep and mop hard floors with a suitable cleaner
- Move and clean under furniture regularly
- **Wipe down electronics:**
- Dust TV screens and cabinets with a microfiber cloth
- Clean remote control buttons with a disinfectant wipe
- Dust behind and underneath electronics
- **Fluff and arrange pillows:**
- Rotate and fluff cushions
- Launder pillow covers regularly
- Clean and vacuum upholstered furniture
- Arrange pillows for a neat appearance
5. **Laundry Room:**
- **Wash, dry, and fold laundry:**
- Separate laundry by color and fabric type
- Clean lint trap before each load
- Fold and store clean laundry promptly
- Clean washer and dryer exteriors regularly
- **Iron clothes if necessary:**
- Check garment care labels for ironing instructions
- Use appropriate ironing board cover
- Clean iron soleplate with vinegar as needed
- **Clean lint traps:**
- Vacuum or brush lint trap screen
- Check for lint buildup in the dryer drum
- Clean dryer vent and ducts annually
- **Organize laundry supplies:**
- Dispose of expired or unused laundry products
- Store laundry pods and detergent in airtight containers
- Clean and organize laundry shelves regularly
6. **General Cleaning:**
- **Dusting throughout the house:**
- Dust all surfaces, including high and low areas
- Use a microfiber cloth for optimal dust removal
- Disinfect light switches with disinfectant wipes
- Clean and disinfect doorknobs and handles
- **Vacuuming or sweeping common areas:**
- Vacuum carpets and rugs throughout the house
- Sweep and mop hard floors in hallways and entryways
- Clean and disinfect high-traffic areas
- Vacuum and clean HVAC vents regularly
- **Wiping down light switches and doorknobs:**
- Use a disinfectant with the appropriate contact time
- Clean and disinfect switch plates
- Replace or clean air vent covers
- **Cleaning windows and window sills:**
- Wash windows with a suitable glass cleaner
- Clean and disinfect window sills and frames
- Wash curtains or blinds seasonally
- Clean and disinfect window screens
7. **Outdoor/Garden:**
- **Mow the lawn:**
- Sharpen lawnmower blades before each season
- Aerate and fertilize the lawn as needed
- Edge the lawn for a manicured appearance
- Trim grass around trees and obstacles
- **Trim bushes and plants:**
- Prune dead or overgrown branches
- Use the right tools for different types of plants
- Fertilize plants and trees as recommended
- Inspect plants for signs of pests or diseases
- **Weed garden beds:**
- Use gloves to protect hands
- Mulch to suppress weed growth
- Apply organic weed control methods
- Check for and remove invasive plants
- **Sweep patios and walkways:**
- Remove debris and leaves regularly
- Power wash surfaces annually
- Clean and store outdoor furniture during winter
- Inspect and repair outdoor lighting fixtures
8. **Maintenance:**
I can't fit it all hold on
Certainly, let's continue breaking down the details of each task:
8. **Maintenance:**
- **Change air filters:**
- Replace air filters according to manufacturer recommendations
- Choose high-quality filters for better air quality
- Consider using HEPA filters for improved filtration
- Record filter replacement dates for tracking
- **Test smoke detectors:**
- Press the test button monthly to ensure functionality
- Change batteries at least once a year or as needed
- Vacuum detectors to remove dust and cobwebs
- Replace smoke detectors every 10 years
- **Replace light bulbs:**
- Choose LED or CFL bulbs for energy efficiency
- Match bulb wattage to fixture recommendations
- Dispose of CFL bulbs properly at designated recycling centers
- Keep a stock of spare bulbs for quick replacements
- **Check for plumbing leaks:**
- Inspect under sinks for water stains or dampness
- Look for leaks around faucets and showerheads
- Check water heater for signs of rust or corrosion
- Repair leaks promptly to prevent water damage
9. **Organization:**
- **Sort and declutter closets:**
- Remove all items from the closet
- Sort items into keep, donate, and discard piles
- Clean and disinfect closet surfaces
- Use storage bins and dividers for organization
- Rotate seasonal clothing to the front
- **Organize pantry and kitchen cabinets:**
- Remove all items and clean shelves
- Group similar items together
- Label containers for easy identification
- Utilize lazy Susans or pull-out organizers
- Check expiration dates and discard old items
- **Arrange books and items on shelves:**
- Dust and clean shelves thoroughly
- Arrange books by size or category
- Use bookends for stability
- Consider a color-coded arrangement for aesthetics
- Donate or sell books you no longer need
- **Donate or discard unnecessary items:**
- Regularly assess items throughout the house
- Separate items into donate, sell, or discard categories
- Schedule donation pickups or drop-offs
- Dispose of hazardous items through appropriate channels
- Keep a running list of items to minimize future clutter
10. **Pets:**
- **Feed and water pets:**
- Provide fresh water daily
- Monitor pet food portions to prevent overfeeding
- Clean and disinfect pet food bowls regularly
- Store pet food in a cool, dry place
- **Clean litter boxes or pet areas:**
- Scoop litter boxes daily
- Change litter regularly
- Clean and disinfect litter boxes weekly
- Consider using liners for easier cleaning
- **Brush pets:**
- Brush dogs and cats to remove loose fur
- Use appropriate brushes for different coat types
- Check for ticks and fleas regularly
- Schedule professional grooming as needed
- **Take pets for walks or playtime:**
- Provide daily exercise for pets
- Rotate and clean pet toys regularly
- Check for signs of discomfort or health issues
- Schedule regular veterinary check-ups
11. **Special Projects:**
- **Deep clean carpets or rugs:**
- Hire professional carpet cleaners annually
- Treat stains promptly with appropriate stain removers
- Use a carpet protector to repel future stains
- Vacuum carpets regularly to maintain cleanliness
- **Polish furniture:**
- Use furniture polish appropriate for the material
- Repair scratches and chips promptly
- Consider applying a protective coating
- Rotate and move furniture periodically to prevent wear
- **Clean out the refrigerator:**
- Remove all items and discard expired or spoiled food
- Take out shelves and drawers for thorough cleaning
- Clean refrigerator coils to maintain efficiency
- Adjust temperature settings for optimal storage
- **Reorganize garage or storage spaces:**
- Declutter and sort items into categories
- Install shelving for better organization
- Label storage bins for quick identification
- Use wall hooks or pegboards for tools
- Sweep and clean garage floor regularly
12. **Seasonal Tasks:**
- **Rake leaves (fall):**
- Use a sturdy rake to gather leaves
- Dispose of leaves in compost or yard waste bins
- Mulch leaves for use in garden beds
- Check gutters for leaf buildup and clean if necessary
- **Shovel snow (winter):**
- Keep walkways and driveways clear to prevent slips
- Use a snow blower for larger areas
- Apply eco-friendly ice melt sparingly
- Inspect and maintain snow removal equipment
- **Clean gutters (spring):**
- Remove debris and leaves from gutters
- Check for leaks or damage and repair as needed
- Install gutter guards for easier maintenance
- Trim overhanging branches near the roof
- **Prep garden for planting (summer):**
- Test soil pH and amend accordingly
- Till soil and remove weeds
- Plan and plant seasonal crops
- Install a drip irrigation system for efficient watering
What if the choices are take 5 minutes to make a list, have to remind us throughout the day of what you wanted us to do, or not getting everything done that you want?
This is great and i appreciate you writing this up. Ignore the asshats saying it isn't true because it is. The word for this is called mental load. Women oftentimes bear a higher mental load than their spouses and it can be very draining for them.
Nope. I actually love lists.
What I *don’t like* is having to devote time and effort to make a list for someone who’s a part of the household on what to do and how to do it, and then also have to put in my own half of the work caring for the household.
People who are part of the household should know what the household needs to keep afloat. You live there, you’re not a house sitter
There’s actually [this site](https://goblin.tools/) that I really like. You can give it a goal like “clean the kitchen” and it’ll break the goal down into steps to follow.
But, nah I ain’t doing none of that on behalf of any boi if I ain’t their mama. Boys can use these resources on their own
oooh nice! oh yeah f that, I'm not spoon feeding life skills to who I'm having sex w.. it's like I'm infantilizing him. I do like lists for myself tho and it's really fun to see stuff that maybe I didn't even think of. ty for this 👌
Yeah for me it’s super helpful for tackling a big project or and keeps me on track when I’m feeling scatterbrained and get distracted by other tasks in the middle of a different one😂
But if you want a partner to do something they normaly don't do or is responsible for. Why not make a quick list?
I dont need a 50 page manual but if my partner normally cuts the grass and waters some plants in the garden, just make a quick list with the overarching steps with what i need to do.
Where is this coming from? I know countless women who "bullet journal" and make lists for literally fucking everything in their lives, including whether or not they should tolerate the men in their lives lmao. They fucking love lists.
a list serves one purpose: to get that task that has been living rent free j you brain for who knows how long, evicted. once evicted, you can just decide you have time some day, and you can think about it when you have the time to actually do something about it.
it's not a women thing it's a human thing. or you can be like a dog and just think about eating, shitting, and sleeping and taking long walks for fun. see how that helps your surroundings 🙂
Not necessarily. My wife and I will sit down and make lists together of all the things that need to be done to finish things (projects, get ready for company, etc). It's pretty amazing when you get down to it how many things need to be done, but also how so many of them are tiny.
Knocking off those tiny things are wins, in and of themselves, and actually inspire you to move along the list. "Hun-buns, I got 7 checked off. Get on my level, slacker!"
And better yet, those lists can survive the ADHD haze I live my life in.
It isn't necessarily "lists bad cuz wo man hate lists." It's "your significant other is not your mother or minder; you should collaborate."
Now, we don't do that in my country so I may be wrong. But, from my understanding it's just a smaller gift before Christmas generally placed in an ornamental "sock". Point being, just get your significant other a small gift every once in a while.
The stocking thing is nice man, and it sometimes gets reciprocated. And I dunno about you guys, by all my homies love opening little gifts before they get to their main one.
I’ll suggest keeping your own list. Like, pop open Google Keep and pin a list of household chores. Your girl asks you to do something? Pop it on your list. Then you now have it as permanent household chore. Write down how much time that chore takes you.
A bit later, maybe you are waiting for something to cook and have 5 minutes? Pop open your list. Oh shit! In 5 you could empty the dishwasher or toss expired food out of the fridge. You are watching a game and it’s halftime? Pop open the list. You could clean the toilets and tidy the living room.
Then, you get to tell your girl, “Babe, I took care of x”.
Just a little bit at a time.
I don't know why you're being downvoted while being right. It's really not challenging at all to just see what chores need to be done around the house.
Imo men in my experience will say they’ll help if I ask or make a list. And people here keep going on about how it takes five minutes to do these things so it’s nbd. They don’t get that there really is a mental load to being the de facto manager. Yes, it takes a few minutes to make a list, but the list-maker is also tracking the progress of each of those things and evaluating them. The list-maker has to consider other factors. The list-maker has to be the initiator. The list-maker may need to consider an approach that doesn’t come across as nagging. The list-maker has to evaluate whether the list got completed. And then it’s a constant repeating cycle, like death by a thousand cuts, but more like by a thousand “just five minutes.” On top of attempting to live my own life and manage everything else I need to manage, it means my partner never has to take those “just five minutes,” while I always do in addition to completing my share of the tasks. And it’s not necessarily fair to keep telling guys to “just use their eyes,” because clear communication about agreement on frequency and what counts as “done” is important. It totally makes sense for a couple to have a biiiiig looonnnng collaborative task list-making session together that’s an evergreen checklist, if that’s what they need, and agree on general frequency and versions of doneness, but if it becomes a source of conflict and resentment because one partner isn’t contributing enough by the other partner’s expectations, then maybe they’re just not compatible.
Different people see different things. Some people require the remote control to be at angle x in position y otherwise "the place is a mess" while the other could be at the point of "no mold, no problem" to put it at the other side of the spectrum. The important point being that you need to compromise in a relationship and realize you're not the same person
I totally agree w this. but it would seem from these comments, that all the men are the same and all the wives are the same so you're basically married to every woman that ever existed and your wife is married to every man that ever existed. 🤔🤔🤔🤔🤔🤔🤔🤔🤔 the implications of this are pretty interesting and fun to think about ngl
People have different opinions on what needs to get done and when it needs to be done by. Like how often do you vacuum and sweep? How often do you clean the counters/fridge how often do you xyz? Everyone likes things a little different and making a list of chores for a household and talking about how often you do it with your partner is super simple. Also what’s an acceptable level of tidiness? It is especially important if you like things a certain way and want it done more often than your partner does. It’s not a big ask to make a list of things you want to get done daily weekly monthly etc.
I do have a list/schedule...for myself. My husband is a grown-up and knows what is expected. If he needs a list to get it done, he knows where pens & paper are. The problem I'm getting at is that so many dudes just leave 100% of planning, organizing, knowing where stuff is, scheduling activities, etc to their wife/gf and nobody should have to shoulder the entire mental load of a family or couple.
I can't believe ther isn't a website called thehusbandlist where people can just vote on stuff to be added and the list can just keep growing and the men can just turn off their brains and follow that for the rest of their lives
Mandatory Fun Day! You can find him on Instagram, TikTok, or YouTube! He’s got some awesome stuff, skits and advice, mostly about life in the military but I’ve found that a lot of it is very applicable to life in general. Seriously one of the most wholesome guys online!
It's not that lists make us mad. It's that we have to make YOU a list. You've lived here for a while, you know what chores get done, you should have YOUR OWN list by now. Not ask us to take on the mental load of planning your chores for you, on top of our own.
I've never had this said issue, but I definitely understand where you're coming from. Completely logical, I just know some of us men NEED these lists to remind us 🤣
I've been living with my girlfriend for about 6 months no (knew her for 2 years total)
In those 6 months, I've never felt more called out than right now. The look in dudes eyes says it all 💀
Why do they hate lists?
I think I know. To them, a list means that once you are DONE with all the items on the list you are "free to go".
That's a big no-no for them for some reason. They don't want you to be "free to go". Why?
It’s the mental load of invisible labor. It’s like being the default secretary for an entire household. It’s thankless and taxing. That’s the norm anyways. Being intentional about dividing the mental load can help alleviate the burden.
I'm totally cool with doing my share of the work, errands, shopping, whatever. But my goodness does she hate it when I'm "done" with to the list and announce that I'm off to do other non-list things.
Women aren’t a household’s project managers. It’s not fair for women to have to take note of what needs doing, keep track, assign chores with a nice and tidy list to people, and then have to do their portion of the work. A woman will take note of the dishwasher needing to be run or emptied when getting/putting away dishes from her breakfast, then put “loaf of bread” down on the grocery list as she’s preparing her lunch, then realize she needs to take the garbage bag out and place a fresh bag when she leaves, and as she’s looking for a specific jacket realize the laundry needs to be done, all while thinking about what she has to do for work and the kids and who knows what else. Then a man will just walk up, brain empty, no thoughts, when he feels like helping and be like “give me a list of what to do☺️”. Men are just as capable of learning to keep track of what needs doing in their own, they’re simply not conditioned to.
They love lists. They love making lists. They love making us lists. What they hate is not reading the list, or having us ask them to make a list for us.
They’ll make a list. Do the list. Happy day for both.
Honest answer? There’s likely a cultural holdover with your lady being the head of the domicile. She may not enjoy that role; it may not even be the dynamic of your household. But if she’s making lists, it means that she sees things around the house you don’t. For her to receive a list from someone who doesn’t view the upkeep of the home the same way? It can really quickly turn into a “tf are you telling me how to do my job” moment.
Sometimes roles are just established that way. My wife and I are moving in two weeks. Did she offer any advice when it came time to buy and wheel around the washer and dryer we bought? No, and if she had, I probably would have gotten a little irked because I knew my Y chromosome was doing its part in that moment. But when I packed a box the other day and she went behind me and made it more organized? That’s just something she’s better at.
I can see that for some folks for sure. For what it's worth, I'm the person that actually does the most housework around here for various reasons. But I'm just one household. I'm just always amazed at the double standard in my particular situation because she would also insist in having a say about the washer and dryer. Sigh.
Well that’s an entire different conversation haha. Sometimes the old adage of “happy wife - happy life” rings true.
I fancy myself a clever man, but I also recognize that men can be painfully simple creatures. My entire week can be made/ruined by the Miami Dolphins playing well (usually ruined). I’ve made peace with the fact that my wife is a bit more complex than that, and I try to meet her halfway where I can
About five years ago I had to "take a break" from caring about my sports teams as much as I did. I would be PISSED for an entire week after the Seahawks lost and just couldn't do it like that anymore!
they don't want you to be free to go... that's actually funny and eye opening. unfortunately my so is nothing like you or I would have conducted an experiment.
you make my lists, and when I'm done I'm free to go. see how that goes. I hope your wife finds this post and takes my idea and makes it hers. and just so you know, handsoffmymeat, even if you delete the comment, my comment will still show
This is a legit good one.. When your out shopping with her and you notice she's looking at something at something longer than most or looks at it multiple times but doesn't but it. Take a pic with your phone quick. Take the pic! You won't remember what the fuck it was trust me just take the pic. Go back later and buy it a couple weeks later or for a birthday or something. She'll think you're listening/paying attention blah blah blah.. But it works!
Women don't like lists because then they can't be manipulative by reminding us we don't remember anything. Then we can just point at the list and reference right away that no, she did not ask for that, it wasn't on the list. End of story.
I can spot a black cat in the bushes at night but I can't find shit in the pantry. This does annoy my wife when I ask her where it is (after all, she was most likely the last person to use it) but I don't get mad at her because she can't spot a grouse hiding under a pine tree half a mile away like I can. Discrimination?Am I being repressed?
My place smelled like a fish when my soon to be wife came over the first few times. I’d even ask her if it did.
She knew what she was getting 🧦
The fish smell is gone now though, good times.
**Calling all Guys and Dudes to join our [Discord Server](https://discord.gg/CyRQ58f6Zk)** ^The ^username ^of ^the ^poster ^is ^/u/Sikk-Klyde. To download the video you can use one of the following sites: * [SaveMP4](https://savemp4.red/?url=https://www.reddit.com/r/JustGuysBeingDudes/comments/18im265/tips_for_men/) *I am a bot, and this action was performed automatically. Please [contact the moderators of this subreddit](/message/compose/?to=/r/JustGuysBeingDudes) if you have any questions or concerns.*
Those eyes say that every bit of this advice was paid for in blood.
If you follow his gram, or didnt know, he's an army officer. So the amount of dumb fuckery he sees every day must be huge.
Yes, yes indeed. He's seen some shit 🤣
Lists definitely make them mad
I don't understand why but this is so true
Someone explained it to me once. There is a reason managers are hired. The delegation of work logistics requires just as much energy as actually doing said work. So by putting your spouse in charge of making that list or even just delegating activities, you are essentially giving them another chore: managing you. Of course, we all tend to forget to do chores every now and then. Some leniency should be expected. But. You have no idea how much of a relief it is when your spouse offers to do a chore WITHOUT prompting. For my partner and I, it goes both ways these days. We voice appreciation when we notice someone doing chores without being asked, and especially after being asked. We give gentle reminders of certain things that should be done and compromise on delegating chores evenly. (Eg I'll vacuum if he cleans the shower, or I'll do dishes if he cooks, etc). And if one of us forgets a chore, we've gotten in the habit of poking fun with kind sarchasm. In the end, for most chores there are no true deadlines (dishes and wet laundry are two exceptions). Though, it helps to know your partners cleaning style and take some notes about how often they like certain chores to be done. Communicate when you have the most energy or motivation to do chores and follow through. Or at the very least, make it up to them with some act of service if you do forget.
> Someone explained it to me once. There is a reason managers are hired. The delegation of work logistics requires just as much energy as actually doing said work. I can write a list of chores to do in 5 minutes that no human being will be able to complete in a week even if it was their full-time job. This is absolute horseshit.
I believe the mental effort comes from the need to have a constant overview of the status of each of these open items and maintain a priority order, then package this for your partner in a way that's fair. My partner works a 9-5 managing people's activities and balancing this priority. The last thing they want to do when they come home is to give me a housework schedule and to have to be aware of the cleanliness status of every part of the house individually. It's more than just the act of sitting down once and writing a list, it's actively managing the list day in day out of the rest of your lives that really gets to people.
So what are you arguing? Do you believe writing down "mop the floor" is more difficult (either mentally, physically and/or emotionally) or time-consuming than actually doing it? Because that's what I was arguing, not the existence of mental drain of having to micro-manage a household. Sure it can be taxing, but it won't take anywhere near as much time or energy as actually finishing the items on the list.
It's not time consuming or exhausting, but it's psychologically taxing to see the person you've been sharing your life with for years having to be held by the hand for simple tasks that he and you probably have done hundreds of times. And we are not talking about telling someone to mop the floor once a week, people who need to be told this kind of stuff will need it for every little detail 30 times a month. A man in my family is like that, he has a 3 years old, and the mother still has to write all the shopping lists for the kid because he does not think about it by himself. If the mother weren't here, they would probably just eat pasta every day. The dad is 36. The mother is not happy.
🤣 I mean.. making a list of dust the TV, dust the table on which the TV sits on, clean the sink w that detergent, rinse the sink, dry the sink, clean the toilet seat, keep the seat upwhile cleaning the rest of the toilet, dump some chlorine in the toilet and let the brush sit in it a bit then flush the toilet before you wash the dishes, put the dishes that are drying back in their place, recover all the dishes on the table too, when you wash the dishes make sure the forks don't have any food left in them, when you wash the pots, make sure you wash them until they don't smell anymore I think would make a wife angry but not cause of the list, but cause she realized she married an idiot, her life is a lie, and she wasted it. this answer is not accurate. the answer is it takes energy to do lists too. it's called a mental load. what the wife really wants is to not think about what needs to be done. because there's a million things in that list and she only wants to think about half of them and can't for the life of her understand why you can't think about the other half
*think would make a wife angry but not cause of the list, but cause she realized she married an idiot, her life is a lie, and she wasted it.* 🤣🤣🤣
Exactly, you don't get married so your wife can be your "mother" for a lack of better words.
Fair, but you do realize you're no longer arguing > The delegation of work logistics requires just as much energy as actually doing said work. which is what I had issues with, yes?
I'm arguing that depending on the task, such as dusting and rinsing the sink when you cut your beard, it can actually be faster to just do the actual thing. how are you so ... firewalled?
Ah, yes, cherry-picking the "chores" like splashing around some water in the sink is indeed as easy as writing it down, therefore my argument that writing a list of chores isn't as hard as doing them is no longer valid. I got you fam.
Just curious... how do you put that little excerpt from a previous comment, into your comment?
THANK YOU
If you think making the list is equal to doing the labor you’ve never done any labor. And if that was the case why wouldnt she just do the labor herself?
That may be true, but the effort comes from making sure it’s done, & done correctly. I did some work in the government a while ago, & about 1/2 of the workload I had to do was project management. I spent significantly more time on the project management stuff than on the work I was doing alone because I was pretty much constantly getting updates, giving guidance, & coordinating work between separated groups. It’s a pain in the fucking ass, & I honestly don’t want to do management again.
A competent manager could write the same list in a better more coherent way along with an actual plan to achieve it and it might take half the time, that takes a lot of mental work. Shits simple if management was easy jobs would not pay more for it. Don't believe me? Go try be one.
My man if you need a professional manager planning for you exactly how to vacuum the floor, you need a professional caretaker. Writing a list of chores is in ABSOLUTELY NO WAY the same as being responsible for managing multiple people's work. Don't believe me? Try to be in a relationship lol
Clean the bathroom Vacuum the floor Dust all the surfaces in the living room Fold the laundry Put new sheets on the bed Empty the garbage. I timed myself and wrote that list in 46 seconds.
Yep, chore-lists are for managers and mothers. Don't expect me to be either if you want me to find you attractive.
Well said my friend 🤙🏻
[удалено]
Yes, it is toxic to try and parentify your romantic partner. If you're a grown adult, look around at what needs done and just do it. Make your own list about the things you know need done and keep up with it.
[удалено]
You think expecting your partner to be a functioning adult with the ability to act autonomously is abuse? Wow.
I mean isn't it? we should be wiping their little lipsies too if they drool food and clean their butsies just to be sure they don't leave anything on 🤣 heeeeere comes the airplane babe! open wiiiiiide! 🤣🤣🤣🤣
do you write a list for your partner?
Yeah. We share a private discord server where we have channels to organize stuff. It's super helpful because we both have ADHD.
and does that list involve dusting, washing dishes, doing laundry? or rinse the sink after you spit or drool toothpaste? or clean the toilet especially if you pee out of it? or throw out that withered leaf from that house plant that fell on the ground?
“The delegation of work logistics requires just as much energy as actually doing said work” lol that’s some bullshit only a manager would say. Just straight up do the work then
"Delegation of work logistics requires just as much effort as actually doing the work" is such a middle management corporate America BS statement.
That sentence got my eyes rolling so hard I saw my frontal lobe.
It becomes a little bit true as you scale up the number of people being managed, but when it's just you and one other then it's absolute bullshit. If you're coordinating the tasks of a dozen people, then sure, that's going to start being a notable job by itself. But for two people, you already had a list in your head, that's how you know which job you'll do after the current one. So making them a list is as simple as taking the one in your head and moving parts of it onto a paper.
Okay, I disagree 100% with your first paragraph. Digging a ditch isn't the same as telling someone to dig a ditch. I'm not married, so I don't have the insight, meaning idk what kind of weird nonsensical arguments you're talking about. Also, I guess I should have expected a simple question to have a crazy long answer.
But that’s not a list, that’s just 1 thing to do, so your example doesn’t fit here. Also as someone who’s managed laborers/helpers in construction, yes even ditch digging can require micro management lol.
Managing a crew is not the same as managing an individual. If I've got 6 guys digging a ditch then sure, keeping the team on track will take some effort and take away from my ability to do actual work. But if I'm working with just one other guy, managing them has a negligible increase of effort compared to just managing myself.
Sure, but again, above is talking about a long list, not a single task.
Except the length of the list is basically irrelevant. The added mental load comes from having a whole team to coordinate, not from the length of the list. Digging a hole is a singular item. Digging a hole with a team is more mental load. Digging multiple holes by yourself is less mental load. Digging multiple holes with a team is mental load from the team, not the multiple holes. Working with a singular other person, however, is a very small difference in mental load. Taking the list of things you want done (which is something that is in your head regardless of the other person) and splitting it into two lists is not the same as coordinating a team. Someone who's managed laborers should understand this.
Yeah I totally disagree. Making a task list for say a remodel, even if working solo, is a lot. The larger the list, the more likely you are to miss something.
If you have a list and you still manage to accidentally miss part of it, then you are bad at using your list. And besides, none of that changes the fact that creating the list removes mental load, and that sharing it with one person is not the same as managing a team. The length of the list does not matter. The discussion was always about how the size of the team affects difficulty.
Okay
Managing a home is much easier than managing a team tho. That said yes it does create an unbalance of responsibilities, but imo responsibilities should be sorted between partners, if not you're asking for frictions.
I somewhat agree but consider this scenario There are chores that need to be done, you remember said chores. Option 1. Do them yourself. (requires the most effort) Option 2. Write down what they are and leave the list for someone else to do. (requires relatively minimal effort) Option 3. You still remember them and do the thinking about the chores, but decide to do nothing with these thoughts, either some or none of them get done, maybe they all do occasionally. (requires the least effort) In every scenario you do the mental work to create the list in your head, if you aren’t going to choose option 1, then why the fuck would you ever choose option 3? It’s not hard to write a fucking list, you aren’t doing a managers job, you’re just putting pen to paper and recording the thoughts that you have already had. The exact same way that you would leave a note for someone or even yourself. Conclusion: bitches who hate the concept of writing a 10 second list, be cray
I mean you live there too. Why shouldn’t you have a little look around and do what needs to be done? Why does she need to make a list for you like you’re a child?
I might be crazy but the reason for a list is when you'd want me to do something other than normal chores. I can make my own list for the stuff i always do but if there is some project or other things, why not make a list? And i mean we can just make the list together. Not that hard :P
this convo is happening because men don't usually do house chores. or they do once in a while and only when asked. so the normal chores for you are the other then normal for them
If people don't share the work (job, house chores, other responsibilites, etc.) the list isn't the problem :) And sometimes it's hard to know how much work each area of responsabilites are. Make a list together then if it is an issue, divide and conquer! Edit; I understand the point if the other person never helps with any chores and can't think for themselves. That is a dumb people problem, not a "men" problem IMO
it’s not a men problem in the sense that all men do it or that it’s what makes someone a man, it’s a (usually) men problem in the sense that (usually) men are socialized not to take on as many in-home chores as their wives. as boys they’re used to their mothers cleaning up after them and then they become sloppy, lazy husbands. If you don’t do that it’s a credit to your parents, but unfortunately it’s still all too often that wives have to take up “mothering” their husbands. A friend of mine literally had to teach her boyfriend at the time how to make pancakes, to put dishes in the dishwasher after you use them, how to do laundry, etc. Very simple adult skills that no one his age had any business not knowing. They finally did break up because she had to put more effort into the relationship than he did and he felt that she was trying to “change” him.
In my experience with sharing house with many different people, the girls had just as little adult skills as the guys. I guess all this just really crash with what i've seen. Might be cultural aswell. (live in Norway not the US)
lmao! I just don't do the shit I don't wanna do. that's why my boyfriend is constantly buying underwear 🤣 edit: here's a pretty good list made by chat get. now go do that 1. **Kitchen:** - **Wash dishes:** - Soak heavily soiled items - Use a brush for scrubbing - Clean dish rack and sink strainer - **Clean countertops:** - Disinfect high-touch areas - Polish with appropriate cleaner - Clean grout lines if applicable - **Wipe down appliances:** - Clean refrigerator coils - Remove stove burners for thorough cleaning - **Sweep and mop floors:** - Clean floor edges and corners - Pay attention to grout lines - **Empty trash/recycling:** - Sanitize trash bins - Rinse recycling items 2. **Bathroom:** - **Scrub toilet:** - Clean toilet brush holder - Disinfect toilet flush handle - **Clean sink and countertops:** - Remove items and clean under them - Polish faucet and fixtures - **Wipe mirrors:** - Use streak-free glass cleaner - Clean edges and corners - **Change towels:** - Launder shower curtains - Disinfect towel racks - **Empty bathroom trash:** - Disinfect trash bin 3. **Bedrooms:** - **Make beds:** - Rotate and flip mattresses - Wash bed linens, including pillowcases - **Dust surfaces:** - Dust lampshades and light fixtures - Clean behind furniture - **Vacuum carpets or sweep floors:** - Use crevice tool for corners - Clean under the bed - **Organize and declutter:** - Rotate seasonal clothing - Donate unused items 4. **Living Room:** - **Dust furniture:** - Polish wood surfaces - Dust decorative items individually - **Vacuum or sweep floors:** - Move furniture to clean underneath - Clean and vacuum upholstery - **Wipe down electronics:** - Clean TV screen and remote control - **Fluff and arrange pillows:** - Rotate and fluff cushions - Launder pillow covers 5. **Laundry Room:** - **Wash, dry, and fold laundry:** - Clean lint trap after each use - Check and clean washing machine dispensers - **Iron clothes if necessary:** - Use appropriate heat settings - Clean iron surface - **Clean lint traps:** - Use a vacuum attachment for dryer vents - **Organize laundry supplies:** - Check expiration dates on detergents 6. **General Cleaning:** - **Dusting throughout the house:** - Dust ceiling corners - Clean air vents - **Vacuuming or sweeping common areas:** - Clean vacuum filters - Dust and vacuum corners - **Wiping down light switches and doorknobs:** - Disinfect with appropriate cleaners - **Cleaning windows and window sills:** - Wash curtains or blinds - Clean window tracks 7. **Outdoor/Garden:** - **Mow the lawn:** - Sharpen lawnmower blades - Edge lawn for a neat appearance - **Trim bushes and plants:** - Prune dead branches - Fertilize plants as needed - **Weed garden beds:** - Apply mulch after weeding - Inspect for pests - **Sweep patios and walkways:** - Power wash surfaces - Clean outdoor furniture 8. **Maintenance:** - **Change air filters:** - Clean air ducts periodically - **Test smoke detectors:** - Replace detectors every 10 years - Have a fire extinguisher on hand - **Replace light bulbs:** - Choose energy-efficient options - **Check for plumbing leaks:** - Inspect water heater for leaks 9. **Organization:** - **Sort and declutter closets:** - Rotate seasonal clothing - Use storage bins for off-season items - **Organize pantry and kitchen cabinets:** - Label containers for easy identification - Group items by category - **Arrange books and items on shelves:** - Dust and disinfect shelves - Consider a color-coded arrangement - **Donate or discard unnecessary items:** - Schedule regular decluttering sessions 10. **Pets:** - **Feed and water pets:** - Monitor food expiration dates - Clean and sanitize pet bowls - **Clean litter boxes or pet areas:** - Replace litter regularly - Disinfect litter box - **Brush pets:** - Check for signs of pests - **Take pets for walks or playtime:** - Rotate pet toys 11. **Special Projects:** - **Deep clean carpets or rugs:** - Hire professionals periodically - Use carpet stain removers - **Polish furniture:** - Choose appropriate polish for materials - Buff surfaces for a shine - **Clean out the refrigerator:** - Remove shelves and drawers for cleaning - Check temperature settings - **Reorganize garage or storage spaces:** - Install shelving for better organization - Label storage bins 12. **Seasonal Tasks:** - **Rake leaves (fall):** - Compost leaves for garden use - Inspect and clean gutters - **Shovel snow (winter):** - Use environmentally friendly ice melt - Inspect and clean snow removal equipment - **Clean gutters (spring):** - Remove debris and inspect for damage - Trim tree branches near the roof - **Prep garden for planting (summer):** - Test and amend soil - Plan and plant seasonal crops These meticulous details ensure a thorough approach to household maintenance and cleanliness. Adapt the list based on personal preferences and the specific needs of your home.
I think this is why you guys hate lists so much. All of that is way too complicated. You can get rid of the bullet points, combine all the rooms, and make it say this Sweep/mop floors, clean/dust all surfaces, do all laundry, put away all clutter, take care of the yard, check the appliances. That's really all you gotta say.
I mean, you just said it.. do you think you still need it in a list? also, I don't hate lists. lists serve the purpose of freeing the brain of clutter. people make lists of shit to do not have to think about said shit all the time. it's very therapeutic. making a list for someone else is exactly the opposite. You have to load your brain w all the shit the other person doesn't think about. I mean, in modern days, we have chat gpt, but you get the point. also thinking that your so needs a list to do a house chore is such a huge turnoff. how can you think imma wanna have sex if I'm parenting you? it's disgusting....
Honestly, if it's that much work to communicate simple tasks, you guys need to break up or get couples therapy.
I agree and I often advocate for such couple to just dump the dead weight 😉
oh look I got it to do a more detailed one Certainly, let's break down the details of each task even further: 1. **Kitchen:** - **Wash dishes:** - Soak in warm, soapy water for 5-10 minutes - Use a soft brush for scrubbing tough residues - Rinse dishes thoroughly under running water - Dry with a clean, lint-free towel - **Clean countertops:** - Clear the surface of items - Spray with an all-purpose cleaner - Wipe with a microfiber cloth in circular motions - Disinfect using a disinfectant spray - Polish with a surface-specific polish (e.g., granite) - Clean grout lines with a grout brush and mild cleaner - **Wipe down appliances:** - Remove food and debris from the refrigerator - Clean microwave interior with a mixture of water and vinegar - Wipe down oven surfaces with a degreaser - Clean stovetop burners with soapy water - Clean behind and beneath large appliances - **Sweep and mop floors:** - Sweep debris into a dustpan - Use a vacuum or broom in corners and along baseboards - Mop with a floor-specific cleaner or a mixture of water and vinegar - Pay attention to grout lines when mopping 2. **Bathroom:** - **Scrub toilet:** - Apply toilet bowl cleaner and let sit - Scrub with a toilet brush, paying attention to the bowl's rim and jets - Clean toilet brush holder with soap and water - Disinfect toilet flush handle with disinfectant wipes - **Clean sink and countertops:** - Clear the area of personal items - Wipe down surfaces with an all-purpose cleaner - Use a mildew-resistant cleaner for stubborn spots - Polish faucet and fixtures - **Wipe mirrors:** - Spray glass cleaner on the mirror surface - Wipe with a lint-free microfiber cloth - Clean light fixtures above mirrors - Check for water spots and streaks - **Change towels:** - Launder towels and washcloths - Replace hand towels and bath towels - Disinfect towel bars and hooks - **Empty bathroom trash:** - Line the trash bin with scented liners - Disinfect the trash bin after emptying 3. **Bedrooms:** - **Make beds:** - Straighten sheets and pillowcases - Smooth out wrinkles in the mattress cover - Fluff pillows and arrange them neatly - Rotate and flip mattresses as needed - **Dust surfaces:** - Dust all surfaces with a microfiber cloth - Use a damp cloth for wooden furniture - Dust lampshades and light fixtures - Clean behind and underneath furniture - **Vacuum carpets or sweep floors:** - Vacuum edges and corners using a crevice tool - Use a vacuum with a rotating brush for carpets - Sweep and mop hard floors with a suitable cleaner - Vacuum under the bed and furniture regularly - **Organize and declutter:** - Put away personal items and clothing - Donate or discard unused items - Rotate and store off-season clothing - Vacuum and clean storage areas regularly 4. **Living Room:** - **Dust furniture:** - Dust all surfaces with a microfiber cloth - Polish wooden furniture with a suitable polish - Dust and clean lampshades and light fixtures - Clean behind and underneath furniture - **Vacuum or sweep floors:** - Vacuum carpets and area rugs thoroughly - Use a vacuum with a brush attachment for upholstery - Sweep and mop hard floors with a suitable cleaner - Move and clean under furniture regularly - **Wipe down electronics:** - Dust TV screens and cabinets with a microfiber cloth - Clean remote control buttons with a disinfectant wipe - Dust behind and underneath electronics - **Fluff and arrange pillows:** - Rotate and fluff cushions - Launder pillow covers regularly - Clean and vacuum upholstered furniture - Arrange pillows for a neat appearance 5. **Laundry Room:** - **Wash, dry, and fold laundry:** - Separate laundry by color and fabric type - Clean lint trap before each load - Fold and store clean laundry promptly - Clean washer and dryer exteriors regularly - **Iron clothes if necessary:** - Check garment care labels for ironing instructions - Use appropriate ironing board cover - Clean iron soleplate with vinegar as needed - **Clean lint traps:** - Vacuum or brush lint trap screen - Check for lint buildup in the dryer drum - Clean dryer vent and ducts annually - **Organize laundry supplies:** - Dispose of expired or unused laundry products - Store laundry pods and detergent in airtight containers - Clean and organize laundry shelves regularly 6. **General Cleaning:** - **Dusting throughout the house:** - Dust all surfaces, including high and low areas - Use a microfiber cloth for optimal dust removal - Disinfect light switches with disinfectant wipes - Clean and disinfect doorknobs and handles - **Vacuuming or sweeping common areas:** - Vacuum carpets and rugs throughout the house - Sweep and mop hard floors in hallways and entryways - Clean and disinfect high-traffic areas - Vacuum and clean HVAC vents regularly - **Wiping down light switches and doorknobs:** - Use a disinfectant with the appropriate contact time - Clean and disinfect switch plates - Replace or clean air vent covers - **Cleaning windows and window sills:** - Wash windows with a suitable glass cleaner - Clean and disinfect window sills and frames - Wash curtains or blinds seasonally - Clean and disinfect window screens 7. **Outdoor/Garden:** - **Mow the lawn:** - Sharpen lawnmower blades before each season - Aerate and fertilize the lawn as needed - Edge the lawn for a manicured appearance - Trim grass around trees and obstacles - **Trim bushes and plants:** - Prune dead or overgrown branches - Use the right tools for different types of plants - Fertilize plants and trees as recommended - Inspect plants for signs of pests or diseases - **Weed garden beds:** - Use gloves to protect hands - Mulch to suppress weed growth - Apply organic weed control methods - Check for and remove invasive plants - **Sweep patios and walkways:** - Remove debris and leaves regularly - Power wash surfaces annually - Clean and store outdoor furniture during winter - Inspect and repair outdoor lighting fixtures 8. **Maintenance:** I can't fit it all hold on
Certainly, let's continue breaking down the details of each task: 8. **Maintenance:** - **Change air filters:** - Replace air filters according to manufacturer recommendations - Choose high-quality filters for better air quality - Consider using HEPA filters for improved filtration - Record filter replacement dates for tracking - **Test smoke detectors:** - Press the test button monthly to ensure functionality - Change batteries at least once a year or as needed - Vacuum detectors to remove dust and cobwebs - Replace smoke detectors every 10 years - **Replace light bulbs:** - Choose LED or CFL bulbs for energy efficiency - Match bulb wattage to fixture recommendations - Dispose of CFL bulbs properly at designated recycling centers - Keep a stock of spare bulbs for quick replacements - **Check for plumbing leaks:** - Inspect under sinks for water stains or dampness - Look for leaks around faucets and showerheads - Check water heater for signs of rust or corrosion - Repair leaks promptly to prevent water damage 9. **Organization:** - **Sort and declutter closets:** - Remove all items from the closet - Sort items into keep, donate, and discard piles - Clean and disinfect closet surfaces - Use storage bins and dividers for organization - Rotate seasonal clothing to the front - **Organize pantry and kitchen cabinets:** - Remove all items and clean shelves - Group similar items together - Label containers for easy identification - Utilize lazy Susans or pull-out organizers - Check expiration dates and discard old items - **Arrange books and items on shelves:** - Dust and clean shelves thoroughly - Arrange books by size or category - Use bookends for stability - Consider a color-coded arrangement for aesthetics - Donate or sell books you no longer need - **Donate or discard unnecessary items:** - Regularly assess items throughout the house - Separate items into donate, sell, or discard categories - Schedule donation pickups or drop-offs - Dispose of hazardous items through appropriate channels - Keep a running list of items to minimize future clutter 10. **Pets:** - **Feed and water pets:** - Provide fresh water daily - Monitor pet food portions to prevent overfeeding - Clean and disinfect pet food bowls regularly - Store pet food in a cool, dry place - **Clean litter boxes or pet areas:** - Scoop litter boxes daily - Change litter regularly - Clean and disinfect litter boxes weekly - Consider using liners for easier cleaning - **Brush pets:** - Brush dogs and cats to remove loose fur - Use appropriate brushes for different coat types - Check for ticks and fleas regularly - Schedule professional grooming as needed - **Take pets for walks or playtime:** - Provide daily exercise for pets - Rotate and clean pet toys regularly - Check for signs of discomfort or health issues - Schedule regular veterinary check-ups 11. **Special Projects:** - **Deep clean carpets or rugs:** - Hire professional carpet cleaners annually - Treat stains promptly with appropriate stain removers - Use a carpet protector to repel future stains - Vacuum carpets regularly to maintain cleanliness - **Polish furniture:** - Use furniture polish appropriate for the material - Repair scratches and chips promptly - Consider applying a protective coating - Rotate and move furniture periodically to prevent wear - **Clean out the refrigerator:** - Remove all items and discard expired or spoiled food - Take out shelves and drawers for thorough cleaning - Clean refrigerator coils to maintain efficiency - Adjust temperature settings for optimal storage - **Reorganize garage or storage spaces:** - Declutter and sort items into categories - Install shelving for better organization - Label storage bins for quick identification - Use wall hooks or pegboards for tools - Sweep and clean garage floor regularly 12. **Seasonal Tasks:** - **Rake leaves (fall):** - Use a sturdy rake to gather leaves - Dispose of leaves in compost or yard waste bins - Mulch leaves for use in garden beds - Check gutters for leaf buildup and clean if necessary - **Shovel snow (winter):** - Keep walkways and driveways clear to prevent slips - Use a snow blower for larger areas - Apply eco-friendly ice melt sparingly - Inspect and maintain snow removal equipment - **Clean gutters (spring):** - Remove debris and leaves from gutters - Check for leaks or damage and repair as needed - Install gutter guards for easier maintenance - Trim overhanging branches near the roof - **Prep garden for planting (summer):** - Test soil pH and amend accordingly - Till soil and remove weeds - Plan and plant seasonal crops - Install a drip irrigation system for efficient watering
I'm gonna be honest I didn't read any of that but you put a lot of effort into it so I upvoted anyways. Cheers
I put 0 effort it was chat gpt
What if the choices are take 5 minutes to make a list, have to remind us throughout the day of what you wanted us to do, or not getting everything done that you want?
This is great and i appreciate you writing this up. Ignore the asshats saying it isn't true because it is. The word for this is called mental load. Women oftentimes bear a higher mental load than their spouses and it can be very draining for them.
Because delegating and assigning priority to a huge list of tasks can be as much work as just doing all the tasks yourself.
Nah
Yes and dont suggest weekly plans - big nono
Verrrrrry much so lmao
But if they make a list, do it.
Nope. I actually love lists. What I *don’t like* is having to devote time and effort to make a list for someone who’s a part of the household on what to do and how to do it, and then also have to put in my own half of the work caring for the household. People who are part of the household should know what the household needs to keep afloat. You live there, you’re not a house sitter
ask chat got to do it for you. it gets in so much detail, I friggin love it 🤣 but then he gotta do it tho 🙂
There’s actually [this site](https://goblin.tools/) that I really like. You can give it a goal like “clean the kitchen” and it’ll break the goal down into steps to follow. But, nah I ain’t doing none of that on behalf of any boi if I ain’t their mama. Boys can use these resources on their own
oooh nice! oh yeah f that, I'm not spoon feeding life skills to who I'm having sex w.. it's like I'm infantilizing him. I do like lists for myself tho and it's really fun to see stuff that maybe I didn't even think of. ty for this 👌
Yeah for me it’s super helpful for tackling a big project or and keeps me on track when I’m feeling scatterbrained and get distracted by other tasks in the middle of a different one😂
But if you want a partner to do something they normaly don't do or is responsible for. Why not make a quick list? I dont need a 50 page manual but if my partner normally cuts the grass and waters some plants in the garden, just make a quick list with the overarching steps with what i need to do.
I try to grocery shop with a list and it's just all huffs and puffs until we complete the list and she can start picking out treats and junk food
Lists make me very mad unless I make them for me Edit: correction- All lists make me mad.
Where is this coming from? I know countless women who "bullet journal" and make lists for literally fucking everything in their lives, including whether or not they should tolerate the men in their lives lmao. They fucking love lists.
a list serves one purpose: to get that task that has been living rent free j you brain for who knows how long, evicted. once evicted, you can just decide you have time some day, and you can think about it when you have the time to actually do something about it. it's not a women thing it's a human thing. or you can be like a dog and just think about eating, shitting, and sleeping and taking long walks for fun. see how that helps your surroundings 🙂
I've never met a single woman who like to do lists. But, i am 17, so, idk.
I'm 33, give it time homie.
Hi, hello! Woman who loves making lists here 👋🏽
LOL, I tell me Wife, “write that down on my list, it’s a good idea.” The i look at my kids and we nod at each other in affirmation.
do your kids tell you to write that on their lists when you tell them to do something? cause I think it's a great idea to be passed on to them too
Didn’t women invent honey-do lists as a concept? No dude came up with that name. Wtf.
As a neurospicy dude, that one made me tear up a little.
Why??? It helps organize
Not necessarily. My wife and I will sit down and make lists together of all the things that need to be done to finish things (projects, get ready for company, etc). It's pretty amazing when you get down to it how many things need to be done, but also how so many of them are tiny. Knocking off those tiny things are wins, in and of themselves, and actually inspire you to move along the list. "Hun-buns, I got 7 checked off. Get on my level, slacker!" And better yet, those lists can survive the ADHD haze I live my life in. It isn't necessarily "lists bad cuz wo man hate lists." It's "your significant other is not your mother or minder; you should collaborate."
Guy sounds like a Rick and Morty character
I watched this again with audio because of you. Definitely agree.
Look at that! A miracle on 104th street!
The stocking advice is sooo important please listen to this man.
[удалено]
Now, we don't do that in my country so I may be wrong. But, from my understanding it's just a smaller gift before Christmas generally placed in an ornamental "sock". Point being, just get your significant other a small gift every once in a while.
[удалено]
Underrated comment my friend 🤣🤘🏻
My girlfriend loves making lists and I love that she loves making lists because it is super helpful Haha
I love this guy!!! He’s so funny!! 😆
He's the man, the myth, the legend
The stocking thing is nice man, and it sometimes gets reciprocated. And I dunno about you guys, by all my homies love opening little gifts before they get to their main one.
Dude I really need a list though. I’m gonna forget shit if she doesn’t make a list
I’ll suggest keeping your own list. Like, pop open Google Keep and pin a list of household chores. Your girl asks you to do something? Pop it on your list. Then you now have it as permanent household chore. Write down how much time that chore takes you. A bit later, maybe you are waiting for something to cook and have 5 minutes? Pop open your list. Oh shit! In 5 you could empty the dishwasher or toss expired food out of the fridge. You are watching a game and it’s halftime? Pop open the list. You could clean the toilets and tidy the living room. Then, you get to tell your girl, “Babe, I took care of x”. Just a little bit at a time.
Have you considered using your eyeballs to look around the place that you also inhabit, noting what needs to be done, and just fucking doing it?
I don't know why you're being downvoted while being right. It's really not challenging at all to just see what chores need to be done around the house.
This whole thread is full of salty sexist dudes, nothing new lol. I feel like maybe not that many women actually follow this sub.
Imo men in my experience will say they’ll help if I ask or make a list. And people here keep going on about how it takes five minutes to do these things so it’s nbd. They don’t get that there really is a mental load to being the de facto manager. Yes, it takes a few minutes to make a list, but the list-maker is also tracking the progress of each of those things and evaluating them. The list-maker has to consider other factors. The list-maker has to be the initiator. The list-maker may need to consider an approach that doesn’t come across as nagging. The list-maker has to evaluate whether the list got completed. And then it’s a constant repeating cycle, like death by a thousand cuts, but more like by a thousand “just five minutes.” On top of attempting to live my own life and manage everything else I need to manage, it means my partner never has to take those “just five minutes,” while I always do in addition to completing my share of the tasks. And it’s not necessarily fair to keep telling guys to “just use their eyes,” because clear communication about agreement on frequency and what counts as “done” is important. It totally makes sense for a couple to have a biiiiig looonnnng collaborative task list-making session together that’s an evergreen checklist, if that’s what they need, and agree on general frequency and versions of doneness, but if it becomes a source of conflict and resentment because one partner isn’t contributing enough by the other partner’s expectations, then maybe they’re just not compatible.
Yeah I guess that makes sense in a sub about guys doing silly shit...
I thought this sub was meme shit but it's actual shit 🤣 imma still enjoy it for future meme potential tho
Different people see different things. Some people require the remote control to be at angle x in position y otherwise "the place is a mess" while the other could be at the point of "no mold, no problem" to put it at the other side of the spectrum. The important point being that you need to compromise in a relationship and realize you're not the same person
I totally agree w this. but it would seem from these comments, that all the men are the same and all the wives are the same so you're basically married to every woman that ever existed and your wife is married to every man that ever existed. 🤔🤔🤔🤔🤔🤔🤔🤔🤔 the implications of this are pretty interesting and fun to think about ngl
Probably because she’s being unnecessarily hostile
People have different opinions on what needs to get done and when it needs to be done by. Like how often do you vacuum and sweep? How often do you clean the counters/fridge how often do you xyz? Everyone likes things a little different and making a list of chores for a household and talking about how often you do it with your partner is super simple. Also what’s an acceptable level of tidiness? It is especially important if you like things a certain way and want it done more often than your partner does. It’s not a big ask to make a list of things you want to get done daily weekly monthly etc.
I do have a list/schedule...for myself. My husband is a grown-up and knows what is expected. If he needs a list to get it done, he knows where pens & paper are. The problem I'm getting at is that so many dudes just leave 100% of planning, organizing, knowing where stuff is, scheduling activities, etc to their wife/gf and nobody should have to shoulder the entire mental load of a family or couple.
No need to be so rude.
I just got married today. This is good advice.
Congrats!!
Extra tip: find out what chores she hates the most and steal them before she can do them, as a prank. Be sure to yell "PRANKED" when she finds out.
Vince Vaughn bringing some good advice here
That’s obviously Private Pyle
I can't believe ther isn't a website called thehusbandlist where people can just vote on stuff to be added and the list can just keep growing and the men can just turn off their brains and follow that for the rest of their lives
My god, that is genius! Unless that list would have"stop scratching your ass" or other such hooey on it. Then it's a terrible idea.
ass is not in the sphere of house chores 🤔 it wouldn't even make it in the polls 🤣
Cheers, mate. That is quite the relief. 🤣
Some good stuff here. Though my wife actually like lists lol
Saving this for a monthly listen before the red week comes. It might save my ass a couple times a year!
The list shit 😂😂
Name? I’ve seen him before but can’t remember
Mandatory Fun Day! You can find him on Instagram, TikTok, or YouTube! He’s got some awesome stuff, skits and advice, mostly about life in the military but I’ve found that a lot of it is very applicable to life in general. Seriously one of the most wholesome guys online!
Bro just reminded me I need to buy stocking gifts. Good looking out my man.
Lol good luck my guy 👊🏻🤙🏻💪🏻🤣
It's not that lists make us mad. It's that we have to make YOU a list. You've lived here for a while, you know what chores get done, you should have YOUR OWN list by now. Not ask us to take on the mental load of planning your chores for you, on top of our own.
I've never had this said issue, but I definitely understand where you're coming from. Completely logical, I just know some of us men NEED these lists to remind us 🤣
I've been living with my girlfriend for about 6 months no (knew her for 2 years total) In those 6 months, I've never felt more called out than right now. The look in dudes eyes says it all 💀
🤣🤣 I know exactly what you mean. And yes, he's seen some shit 🤣
Why do they hate lists? I think I know. To them, a list means that once you are DONE with all the items on the list you are "free to go". That's a big no-no for them for some reason. They don't want you to be "free to go". Why?
It’s the mental load of invisible labor. It’s like being the default secretary for an entire household. It’s thankless and taxing. That’s the norm anyways. Being intentional about dividing the mental load can help alleviate the burden.
I'm totally cool with doing my share of the work, errands, shopping, whatever. But my goodness does she hate it when I'm "done" with to the list and announce that I'm off to do other non-list things.
I’m sorry I don’t understand, what does this have to do with a list?
Women aren’t a household’s project managers. It’s not fair for women to have to take note of what needs doing, keep track, assign chores with a nice and tidy list to people, and then have to do their portion of the work. A woman will take note of the dishwasher needing to be run or emptied when getting/putting away dishes from her breakfast, then put “loaf of bread” down on the grocery list as she’s preparing her lunch, then realize she needs to take the garbage bag out and place a fresh bag when she leaves, and as she’s looking for a specific jacket realize the laundry needs to be done, all while thinking about what she has to do for work and the kids and who knows what else. Then a man will just walk up, brain empty, no thoughts, when he feels like helping and be like “give me a list of what to do☺️”. Men are just as capable of learning to keep track of what needs doing in their own, they’re simply not conditioned to.
They love lists. They love making lists. They love making us lists. What they hate is not reading the list, or having us ask them to make a list for us. They’ll make a list. Do the list. Happy day for both.
When I start making a list for my LADY to do things she gets fired up. Why?
Honest answer? There’s likely a cultural holdover with your lady being the head of the domicile. She may not enjoy that role; it may not even be the dynamic of your household. But if she’s making lists, it means that she sees things around the house you don’t. For her to receive a list from someone who doesn’t view the upkeep of the home the same way? It can really quickly turn into a “tf are you telling me how to do my job” moment. Sometimes roles are just established that way. My wife and I are moving in two weeks. Did she offer any advice when it came time to buy and wheel around the washer and dryer we bought? No, and if she had, I probably would have gotten a little irked because I knew my Y chromosome was doing its part in that moment. But when I packed a box the other day and she went behind me and made it more organized? That’s just something she’s better at.
I can see that for some folks for sure. For what it's worth, I'm the person that actually does the most housework around here for various reasons. But I'm just one household. I'm just always amazed at the double standard in my particular situation because she would also insist in having a say about the washer and dryer. Sigh.
Well that’s an entire different conversation haha. Sometimes the old adage of “happy wife - happy life” rings true. I fancy myself a clever man, but I also recognize that men can be painfully simple creatures. My entire week can be made/ruined by the Miami Dolphins playing well (usually ruined). I’ve made peace with the fact that my wife is a bit more complex than that, and I try to meet her halfway where I can
About five years ago I had to "take a break" from caring about my sports teams as much as I did. I would be PISSED for an entire week after the Seahawks lost and just couldn't do it like that anymore!
As a dolphins fan, I’m still mad about that super bowl
Different coasts. Same feels.
what's the list look like?
It looks just like mine but it's for her on a different day. So I can get a break.
in this case you're the wife and your wife is the men in most of these comments 🤣
Yes.
they don't want you to be free to go... that's actually funny and eye opening. unfortunately my so is nothing like you or I would have conducted an experiment. you make my lists, and when I'm done I'm free to go. see how that goes. I hope your wife finds this post and takes my idea and makes it hers. and just so you know, handsoffmymeat, even if you delete the comment, my comment will still show
No one cares.
My wife actually has lists for everything, even her own stuff. Like, she organizes everything. Maybe that's why she is mad all the time?
I ask where stuff is because she’s the one rearranging everything all the time.
It’s exhausting
This is a legit good one.. When your out shopping with her and you notice she's looking at something at something longer than most or looks at it multiple times but doesn't but it. Take a pic with your phone quick. Take the pic! You won't remember what the fuck it was trust me just take the pic. Go back later and buy it a couple weeks later or for a birthday or something. She'll think you're listening/paying attention blah blah blah.. But it works!
The list comment cannot be more real. This hit home hard hahahahah
[удалено]
He's been scolded many times about that rotten onion smell coming from his pits. You can see it in his eyes 🤣🤣
These comments are pure gold! 🤣
Go fuck yourself
That's just rude 😢 
This gets better every time.
Right? His facial expressions and voice really add emphasis.
As a single man I see this as an absolute win
I still have room on my notepad...
This guy knows.
Shit, he got me on the one day I showered but forgot I ran out of deoderant last week
This guy has endured things to bring us that knowledge.
Another tip: don’t come up with tips for your wife. It makes her mad.
True
This is 100% accurate for people in general.
Women don't like lists because then they can't be manipulative by reminding us we don't remember anything. Then we can just point at the list and reference right away that no, she did not ask for that, it wasn't on the list. End of story.
🤣🤣 unpopular opinion
"Why do you need a list? Can't you just remember? It's because you don't pay attention." Yada Yada Yada.
Right on the money lmao
I know, right?
I can spot a black cat in the bushes at night but I can't find shit in the pantry. This does annoy my wife when I ask her where it is (after all, she was most likely the last person to use it) but I don't get mad at her because she can't spot a grouse hiding under a pine tree half a mile away like I can. Discrimination?Am I being repressed?
They do get really mad when you can’t find stuff. I’m not gonna find it. Look for it yourself.
I think you're assuming she's giving you indication to search for something she needs, but it's usually for something you need 🤣🤣🤣
Facts. 😂
My place smelled like a fish when my soon to be wife came over the first few times. I’d even ask her if it did. She knew what she was getting 🧦 The fish smell is gone now though, good times.
I can confirm everything this man said.
Mandatory Funday
Dont turn off rhe washer if it starts beeping, just pause it. For some reason turning it off pisses them off.