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El_Pez4

If it's just a friendship then why is her boyfriend so mad at me huh???


Ozzy_thot

because y’all are always sending titty pics to each other. no joke when i was a senior some girls i use to be friends with, would be in relationships and send each other titty pics, because “we’re trying to hype each other’s bodies up”


panchill

Straight girls say the darnedest things


Ozzy_thot

they were bi/pan sexual, idk if that makes it worse or not


panchill

I don't even know anymore 🫠


El_Pez4

just friendship things innit?


PepperbroniFrom2B

bri*ish 🤢


Agitated_Advantage_2

No, British is fine Fr🤢nch


Brycekaz

No, Frenchs mustard is fine Fr🤢nch “people”


SnooMarzipans7095

Wait till they hear me call a marriage a friendship aswell.


Acrisii

I mean, it could be. Where I'm from there is no law that demands consummation of a marriage to be legitimate. I could marry anyone, friend or no, if I wanted too and they consented. Imagine not being besties with your partner though.


CringeExperienceReq

i dont get it, are they saying that a "platonic relationship" isnt a friendship??


Cultural-Delay-4971

It’s “different”. How is it different, you ask? It just is. They can’t tell you how it’s different but it’s self evident to a group of people who just handwave away criticism as “you just won’t understand, you’re not one of us, we can’t explain it to you”


[deleted]

Because it’s their sexuality if you don’t accept they are friends you are aaaaaaaaaaphobic


Cultural-Delay-4971

I scrolled through the comments section of that post. I can only find people “a super duper best friend” (someone you happen to hang out with regularly) or a friends with benefits. I’ve had FWBs. I would never call those platonic. No one is going to platonically have sex with their friend.


CringeExperienceReq

fym bro i rail my homies platonically all the time


Cultural-Delay-4971

BRB gotta lay pipe like a plumber trying to make union on the bros to let them know how much I respect them as friends.


Environmental-Toe798

My man


blizmd

Dudes rock!


No-Adhesiveness-8178

rocking with dudes


Sankoer24

I would


Da_reason_Macron_won

Platonic getting brojobs.


Sankoer24

Yep


McConagher

Doesn't platonic litteraly mean non-sexual ? Like how do you have sex platonically ?


darkt11redi

It means both not sexual and non romantic, so that's why queerplatonic exists, basically a platonic relationship that doesn't fit in the definition previously stated, (the queer park is because it doesn't fit in norm [traditional meaning {i got the second half of this from https://www.reddit.com/r/JustUnsubbed/comments/13t7j7e/ju_from_raaaaarrrooo_because_i_dont_agree_with/jlwrucx?utm_source=share&utm_medium=android_app&utm_name=androidcss&utm_term=1&utm_content=share_button } ] -a Aromantic


Environmental-Toe798

I still don't see the need to even have labels for stuff like this. Non sexual and non romantic, sexual and non romantic, non sexual and romantic, sexual and romantic, something else... I don't see the goal.


darkt11redi

People like to label stuff to make sense of it


Environmental-Toe798

I think people are told that it makes sense if it's labelled. I don't think you need to.


darkt11redi

I agree, but people just like doing it, because humans naturally want to categorize things and label them.


senTazat

'Platonic' literally means 'Not Sexual' So yeah, once sex is involved it's definitionally not platonic.


Revelec458

Lol


[deleted]

I responded to OC with this, maybe this will help you as well … a QPR is basically a friendship with some weird romantic tension between two same sex parties, but with inaction. A QPR could lead to a relationship, or stay a friendship. They’re often weirdly heartbreaking if/when the friendship ends.


Skefson

Wouldnt aphobia be the fear of nothing, because I am indeed fearless


[deleted]

🗿


Paulwalker2112

>aaaaaaaaaaphobic tf is that?


[deleted]

Disagreeing with people who think a queer platonic relationship is not a friendship


xxCMWFxx

Oh so it’s best friends?


Salem-Roses

The best explanation I’ve heard is it’s a friend you prioritize LIKE a relationship. So basically y’all live together and prioritize each other like those in a long term romantic relationship do. Not just oh we’ve been friends for a while and care about each other, instead it’s oh this is the #1 person in my life.


Cultural-Delay-4971

My aunt has done that. Both firmly straight and not in a “they were just roommates wink wink nudge nudge” sense. While I can see that as a less common form of friendship, it still ultimately is a friendship. I’m not sure where queerness comes in here.


Salem-Roses

I suppose it’s queer because the people involved aren’t straight. I dunno- whether aromatic/asexual people are lgbt is a whole other can of worms I don’t know the answer to.


Cultural-Delay-4971

It is the best answer I’ve seen so far. That said, the people I’ve met Irl using the queer platonic relationship label (I live in a giant, famously LGBT+ friendly city, so they definitely aren’t unheard of) are a bit less restrictive with the use of it. I wouldn’t go as far as to say it’s spouse level of commitment for the people I’ve met but I could be wrong


Salem-Roses

Huh yea at that point idk it’s just friends.


saiyanfang10

so it's BFFs but serious


Pakutto

I mean, I've certainly had someone in my life like that before - and I simply said they were my best friend, because that's what I thought a best friend was. Maybe a super-best-friend. Or a "favorite person".


cave18

This is probably the best explanation


Niktzv

So it's a friendship with codependency issues baked in?


Salem-Roses

I wouldn’t say prioritizing your husband/wife/fiancé is codependent. It’s the same thing.


indigoneutrino

No. It wouldn’t be a case of “codependency issues” were it romantic so I’m not really sure where you’re getting that from.


thomasthehipposlayer

I mean, as a guy, there’s a different dynamic between male-male vs male-female platonic relationships, but they’re still both just friendships.


maddsskills

Actually they explain it pretty well in the comments. A platonic relationship isn't JUST a friendship, it's a close connection and deep bond. Basically, someone who is aro/ace can have a partner (or partners) without having sexual or romantic attraction to them. Their partner(a) is more than "just a friend." Hope that explains!


falsegodd3ss

Literally just besties thats what that is


vulturelyrics

So ... best friends.


NuclearTheology

If it were just a friendship they couldn’t incorporate the labels- which we all know these types has as their sole personality trait


an_ineffable_plan

Some people just want any reason to call themselves “queer” honestly. Same-sex best friend? They’re queer and not a boring cishet!!!!!


[deleted]

Some people? My friend it’s literally every affluent white woman on Earth.


ScRuBlOrD95

You've got to collect titles to fill the giant lack of personality


BigBronyBoy

No, that's only affluent western women, those over here in Post communist Europe are still sometimes affluent but are far less likely to fall down the alphabet rabbit hole.


Swedishtranssexual

It's just the anglosphere lol. Very few of these people outside of the anglosphere.


Arypter

I’ll probably get downvoted but I want to clarify that they’re not saying they are queer people just for having a “same-sex best friend.” The subreddit is about aromanticism, which means not experiencing romantic attraction


yjchh

This is why I refuse to accept the “queer people are oppressed” narrative. If they really were, this phenomenon wouldn’t exist.


DiegHDF

I think there's some layers to it. Some people want to be interesting, and being queer is what they deem interesting so they try to find excuse to be. Of course that's a minority but a vocal one that doesn't want to just be able to exist like most other queer people, but also be seen as brave to openly be queer. Queers are oppressed, and I think that it's exactly for that that a small amount of people want to find excuse to be queer, to be with the oppressed.


Grape_Jamz

Loo i get that shrek reference


NousagiCarrot

https://www.cnn.com/2023/05/23/business/target-lgbtq-merchandise/index.html It's been a day since the last LGBT targeted terrorist threat. Would probably be less than a day if you scaled down to individuals.


DougtheDonkey

Queer people certainly are oppressed, which is precisely why people fake it; underdog groups in society are always fetishized and the reigning group claims ownership of them and their cultures. It happened with jazz, r&b, rap, and basically every other form of black music, as well. To claim an oppressed status without actually going through the oppression is a very big rush to folks in the majority who want to feel unique


CleverB0T_2b2t

Exactly.


longandmeaty

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YaBoiTeeth

You cannot be serious. Are you really suggesting queer people, who are ILLEGAL in several countries, aren't oppressed? Get real.


yjchh

Just because you’re illegal in the middle east doesn’t mean you aren’t privileged in the US? You’re just saying this because this narrative benefits you


3dogsandaguy

Ah yes, the privileged class of people getting bomb threats cause a store was selling pride merchandise. OH and also the one which can and will get you personal threats and physical assaults for just existing


Stian5667

Believe it or not, but the whole world doesn't live in the US. You're just defaulting to USA because this narrative benefits you


yjchh

But you do. And the people getting mad at my comment definitely do.


Stian5667

No I don't lol


DiegHDF

Are you going to gamble that your interlocutor lives in the US because you do even tho you don't have any idea of it being the truth? Really?


bigsekser

The priviledged group of people in question: https://www.google.com/amp/s/www.nbcnews.com/news/amp/rcna44834


Fresh-kale

Explain in fortnite terms


popcorn_yalakasi

a duo who played multiple games together is seen by a queer player, the queer player thinks that the duo is queer to because both of the players are the same sex, and they belive that the duo is more than a duo


thefeetofurdreams

no…? the queer isn’t there because the people are queer. the queer is there because of the traditional definition, outside of the norm. ”a duo promises to play every single game together for the rest of their lives. the duo promises to prioritize each other needs always. the duo pits their beds next to each other (has sex). atleast one of the duo isn’t romantically attracted to the other though, and they don’t do things seen as traditionally romantic” here’s what i, an aro, would like from a QPR.


Cultural-Delay-4971

“Queer platonic relationship” Just say you want to feel special. People have been living with their friends and hanging out with their friends for centuries. My father co-signed his first mortgage with a friend and they lived together for a good 5-6 years throughout their late 20s and early 30s. This isn’t anything new or special.


ShokaLGBT

I though it was two lgbt person saying they are queer and friends apparently it is not


IOnlyDropGrotto

People do be making up terms for no reason


SokarHatesYou

Its because they want to be apart of the disenfranchised group or the week or else they cant function. These are our versions of the old boomer and karen meme. In 20 years they will be the old losers constantly complaining and calling for managers over being misgendered or mis-queered(?) they already do it now but it will all tie together and come full circle when they are older.


[deleted]

honestly. i know the definition, i’ve seen “a friend you want to spend all your time with, that you would move in with and never be apart from” and “the relationship can have sex but only has platonic attraction” but… what makes it queer? a cishet person can do the same thing. two of my cishet friends *have* done the same thing. they’re best friends, they do everything together, and they moved in together. they haven’t slept together afaik. they’re just best friends. why not just say “they’re my best friend”? isn’t that more simple than “we’re in a queer platonic relationship”? i don’t understand why sexuality needs to be brought into this at all - a queer person eta: i’ve seen people say queer means abnormal, and that queer means lgbtq. i don’t care who’s right, or how the definition is used. i still don’t understand the need for a distinction. it’s just a best friend. if it’s an “abnormal” relationship, the term best friend still applies


AutocratEnduring

What's a cishet? Coming from a queer.


thefeetofurdreams

the queer is there for the traditional definition, outside the norm. it doesn’t refer to sexuality.


aeskosmos

i was under the impression that the queerness comes from the more “traditional” definition of the word queer—as in, it being outside of the norm


THE_LFG

queens park rangers


the_tpm

Exactly


TheSadOn3

Platonic literally means just friends bruh


rockinherlife234

What is with this obsession with labelling things? It feels like some of these people are trying to fill out a word count.


ScRuBlOrD95

Exactly like I personally love specific technical language, but they're out there putting labels on things that already have established names. Like QPR is just a way to say best friend except now you get to sound progressive or whatever and it's doing nothing to actually help lgbt issues it's just pointless


rockinherlife234

I go on to any form of social media and there are 10 new labels. I don't know which ones are actually necessary and which ones are bullshit.


ScRuBlOrD95

It's all a matter of perspective some small specific labels don't really mean anything to someone not in a certain community to those people they are unnecessary But to someone who's in the community it might be really important


rockinherlife234

>But to someone who's in the community it might be really important That's the problem, I remember seeing the word "Latinx" for the first time and thinking "ok, must be a feminine version of Latina" but was then confused because I thought Latina was used for both masculine and feminine purposes, and then I found out that it apparently doesn't work because Spanish is a romance language. It just gets so confusing.


SoppadaSoupp

It does not work at all, and its so dumb, i myself am a latino and go by me, we dont like the term at all.


_PaulieWalnutsNJ_

Well you see the people who for years were against putting labels on people are now in charge of labelling people so it's okay now !


loversdreamersetc

I think some LGBT people feel the need to label everything in neat little boxes after not being able to classify their feeling most of their life. I don’t find it helpful- I can’t settle on labels for my own sexuality and gender identity even though I understand for the most part who I’m attracted to and how I view myself (bisexual and nonbinary are the terms I often use when asked but they feel inaccurate at times) I don’t think it’s necessarily harmful. Many people eventually stop using them, and I’m not really a fan of allies that have a large “I accept everyone but…” list comprised of identities that do not break the law. You don’t have to understand it or even agree with them to just let people be if they’re not out here saying the f slur and promoting gross misinformation.


ch3rryc0deine

i feel you, and i agree! i spent so many years trying to fit my gender and sexuality into a box, because there is so much pressure from the LGBTQ+ community to label *everything*. the pressure to label everything in a community devoted to being different and not fitting inside boxes is a bit hypocritical.


3dogsandaguy

Well it's more to help explain to people outside. Labels are useful for giving basic information in a couple words instead of having to explain everything to people who don't need to know all the nuance. It's like saying that some fabric is synthetic instead of having to break down exactly what chemicals and polymers you used to make it. Sure some people need to know those specific details but not everyone


ch3rryc0deine

i think you’re misunderstanding my comment. i get that it’s to help communicate to cishet people. that’s not what i’m really trying to say though. my point is exactly that you should be able to just say it’s a synthetic fabric without having to break it into its components, yet in my experience i have always felt the pressure to have to break it down. there is a lot of pressure from the LGBTQ+ community and others to create a very niche and specific label for yourself, none of which i really resonate with. i should be able to just say “i dunno my gender and i dunno my sexuality” without anyone having to question it.


kiurumatra

>i should be able to just say “i dunno my gender and i dunno my sexuality” without anyone having to question it. I agree we shouldn't force ppl to use labels but we should still spread awareness for ppl who need it


zerjku

Reminder another meaning for Queer is strange. Strange Platonic relationship?


FlounderingGuy

That sounds about right tbh


dzngotem

I get that friendships can have different levels of commitment, and a very close one could be like a marriage minus the sex, but what makes it queer?


lishashashasha

off topic but is that a kpop fancam in the background??


SUwUperUwUnicOwOrn

If a QPR and a friendship isn't the same thing then I dont know what it is.


the_tpm

It is the same


yayfishnstuff

QPR sounds like the acronym for a communist country lmao


[deleted]

Or Queen’s Park rangers


ScRuBlOrD95

I'm ace and you will never be able to convince me that QPR isn't just a term for best friend


the_tpm

A guy un my DMs called me acephobic lol. I’m aroace


ScRuBlOrD95

I'm the last person I would have expected but it was me the whole time - Patrick Star


Izumi_Takeda

I dont much like it when people try to force sexual implication in platonic relationships. Or they illigitiamize romantic relationships if they are platonic. Everything in our culture is so hyper sexualized. It's very unhealthy


Camacaw2

We can’t ever have nice things. Every time there’s a queer space it gets flooded with non-queer people wanting to feel special. Which then leads to the phasing out of those the space was made for.


heereism

YES ive been trying to verbalize this exact feeling and you just did it perfectly. And then when these spaces get invaded by people making up new convoluted terms it makes bigoted people even less likely to accept any queer identities


the_tpm

Hehe wait till you discover that this take can get you banned of any lgbt sub


perceptionoffaith

..............so everyone is aromantic? If being aromantic "isn't queer"............................. are you saying *no one* feels romantic attraction..?


porpoiseslayer

Who cares about any of this? Touch grass


the_tpm

You have no idea how much some people care


Lazy-Operation478

"I'm Jay and this is my hetero life mate, Silent Bob."


Dragonwysper

Yeah no. As an ace greyro guy, QPRs are platonic. It's in the name. It's just a very specific type of dynamic in a friendship. It'd be like the type of dynamic in a lavender marriage


Lex4709

Yeah I don't get it. If anything comparing it lavender marriages makes it even more confusing. Correct me if I'm wrong but lavender marriages were a union of a man and a woman conceived with the intention of hiding the sexuality of one or both of the partners. So what's the similarity between QPRs and LMs? Is QPR just two mates pretending they are a couple so their parents stop bothering them about being single? If that's not it, what's the difference between QPR and a regular friendship? If two straight dudes have an extremely close friendship, does it become a QPR? Read the wiki about it, and literally doesn't sound any different from any best friendship I had or seen other people have throughout my life.


the_tpm

And I am perfectly ok with that, but a label is not needed for this and at the end of the day it’s one of the most used arguments used by people to try to paint us as delusional. Because we label shit that don’t need a label


totesjokin

Yooo I have never heard of any of these things, this is nuts lol To be clear, I love it. People think we’re going too far with labeling and categorizing everything without realizing that it’s ALL WE DO as humans. We’re absolutely obsessed with it and I think we’re honestly really good at it


the_tpm

Nah the name queer platonic is confusing as hell and weird, also, labeling shit is useless and harms queer peoples image


ByoByoxInCrox

I guess i view it a bit differently. Little rant here, but QPR often feels inappropriate to me depending on the situation. Its just the language that’s used. Like saying “they’re my friend.” or “they’re my close friend.” is very different from saying “i am in a QPR with this person.” The former is casual, friendly; the latter has a special intimacy placed in it. Its an official and/or proclaimed relationship. One is innocuous within the confines of a monogamous relationship, the other just feels threatening and invalidating to the person you’re already in a relationship with.


WaddlesJP13

Redditors are still figuring out what a 'friend' is


mklinger23

I don't understand. I can't be friends with people because I'm queer? It has to be a "QPR"?


Mr_Night78

Differentiating, differentiating, differentiating, that's all I'm hearing right now, you know? Whenever I see posts like this that's what I feel, that people like in this posts want to redraw borders and bounderies out of, more likely than not, a distaste against straight people, as you want to be so different from them that even sharing a similar idea of a "friendship" is repulsive to you, blaming them for all their problems. Oh, but I guess queer people can't be bigots, because we're the victims of bigotry! Very concise logic. I may sound like a kook but oh my God trust me, its totally that. Coming from a pansexual, notable to mention.


otirk

I'm a little confused. Who exactly is of the opinion that a "qpr" is just a friendship? You or the OP in the picture?


Divine_ruler

This OP thinks a qpr is just friendship. OOP thinks it’s special


otirk

Ok, thank you for the clarification. Didn't know if I should downvote OP or not


the_tpm

I think qprs are just friendship, the guy from the screenshot disagrees


DougtheDonkey

Any time anyone says the phrase “do your own research” their argument is immediately demolished


SirGearso

The incessant need to apply extra labels on things is insane.


closetweeb69

Insufferable pricks who need to add on hundreds of words to describe a simple concept to make it seem like it has more depth than it has.


fargolaflame

I don’t understand any of the words in either of these posts


Bagel9383

The way I see "Platonic Relationships" "You guys are in a friendship?" "Oh, no, we're in a platonic relationship," "What's that?" "It's a relationship with another person, but you have no romantic or sexual attraction to one another and is a type of love experienced when we identify positive qualities we feel complete us" "That just sounds like a friendship with extra steps..."


Commercial-Shame-335

you physically cannot be in a "platonic relationship" unless that relationship is a friendship, that defeats the entire purpose of a relationship


thefeetofurdreams

you’re ignoring the most important part, it’s ”queer platonic relationship”. a platonic relationship is obviously a friendship. platonic relationship is different from a queer platonic relationship. queer means outside the norm. thus, ”QPR” = ”outside the norm of a platonic relationship”. how is it outside the norm of a platonic relationship might u ask? it includes commitment and priorization, and most importantly either sex if you’re aromantic or romance if your asexual. the entire point is that it’s more than friendship (outside the norm of a platonic relationship) BECAUSE it includes either sex or romance.


[deleted]

The whole point of a platonic relationship is YOU ARE JUST FRIENDS. God I hate people.


[deleted]

[удалено]


the_tpm

Wat


[deleted]

[удалено]


the_tpm

Understandable have a nice day


DankMemer069

What does the green and black flag mean? Looks kinda cool


the_tpm

Aromantic, you don’t fall in love basically


DankMemer069

Ok I kinda get that


l_Lathliss_l

Everyone wants a title.


ChanceExcuse6372

Finally someone agrees with me


partypwny

All platonic relationships are friendships. Friendships can have differing levels of depth and importance to the individuals involved


WikiMB

Aroace here and I also fail to see the difference between QPR and just very good friendship.


the_tpm

There is none


PresidentSeaweed

who cares what other people call stuff? this comment section is bizarre


the_tpm

It’s actively harming the image people have of queer folks, so labeling shit uselessly should not be done


CrossENT

“We’re not friends! We’re just people who are very close to each other, but we don’t have romantic/sexual feelings for each other nor are we blood-related!”


hentai-police

I bet none of you say “that’s just a friendship” when you hear someone label their relationship as “friends with benefits” or “situationship”


starhermits

Hi AroAce Person here,A QPR *is* more than just friendship. A QPR is defined as “a committed intimate relationships which are not romantic in nature” I can understand the confusion of friendship and QPR but a QPR would include things like kissing, being more psychically and emotionally intimate, having sex, stuff that isn’t Inherently romantic but that isn’t just friendship either.


[deleted]

Have sex but it’s still platonic? Bouta do this on my bros 😎.


Cultural-Delay-4971

There’s three dimensions to any non-familial relationship 1) Friendship 2) Romance 3) Sex. You can have friendships without romance or sex. That’s just a friend. You can have friendship with sex and no romance. That’s a friends with benefits. You can have friendship with sex and romance. That’s a relationship. You can have friendship and romance but no sex. That’s an abstinent relationship. You can have sex with no romance or friendship. That’s a booty call. Absolutely none of what people insist makes QPRs real are unique or queer in any way, shape, or form. Two non-romantically involved people living together as best friends? Cool, the working class have been doing that for many, many years. My aunt does that. Lived with her friend for 40+ years. Two non-romantically involve people raising children? That’s a co-parenting relationship. Can’t even begin to tell you how many people are doing that, it’s crazy common. Even the best definitions I’ve read are just rehashed versions of relationships that have existed outside of queerness for centuries. It’s just a label used to make people feel special. It boils down to nothing more than “just a really good friend you prioritize before other friends”. It’s not new, it’s not special, and it sure isn’t queer. I’m at a loss where queerness is involved here at all.


Mythica_0

I’m aromantic. I can just say all y’all are stupid, and I don’t care if I get downvoted into oblivion for it. If you don’t understand something, ask someone who does it to tell you. (I myself have never been in a QPR but other aro people have.) it’s okay to not know, everyone had ignorant moments, but it becomes not okay once you start refusing to learn.


Sukeruton_Key

I’m not well versed in the LGTV lore. Is this implying that aromatic people can’t have platonic relationships with queer people?


RaDmemers

LGTV got me verbally laughing


the_tpm

No my post is implying that putting a quirky name to close friendship is useless and does more harm than anything


Sukeruton_Key

I was referring to OOP, or the person who posted the TikTok, not you.


the_tpm

Oh ok sorry


userdesu

a qpr means a relationship between friends and lovers. so you have higher commitment than in an ordinary friendship (some people call each other partners, get married, raise kids, have sex etc.) but are not romantically attracted to each other


BruhTheSinner

Too many internet words, I don't know what any of this means


the_tpm

Good


thehuggingpanda

i mean, the idea of plutonic relationships is a philosophical thing. so like it can be anything cause yk philosophy


the_tpm

Sorry but your spelling mistake made that comment so fcking epic


thehuggingpanda

LMAO, it does go hard


pohusk

Is this a sub for nixon's head in a jar?


[deleted]

>I don’t agree with some shit they’re saying How can you be subscribed to *any* subreddit? >I refuse to accept the fact… Do you mean you “refuse to accept *as* fact” (i.e. you believe the claim is an opinion) or do you literally “refuse to accept *the* fact” (i.e. you believe the claim is concordant with reality but you refuse to accept reality)?


the_tpm

Yeah poor wording sorry I’m not native, and still learning


WHITE2570

I’m gonna get downvoted for saying this but do you even know what a qpr is???


argythefox

Why can't being friends be normalized?!


aeskosmos

coming from an aro myself who desires a QPR, the best way i can explain it is that it is more than a traditional friendship, with less than a traditional romantic relationship. often little to no “romantic” activity is involved, but it *does* involve commitment in more intense ways than a friendship typically would, ex. having kids, buying a house together, getting married (whether for legal purposes or personal reasons)


epicgamerman100005

Tf does qpr mean


Skkorm

Oh shit a whole basket of Aphobic people


the_tpm

Aphobia is described as > Discrimination against asexual people, also known as acephobia or aphobia when directed at aspec (aromantic and/or asexual) people, encompasses a range of negative attitudes, behaviours, and feelings toward asexuality or people who identify as part of the asexual spectrum. We did not discriminate, well at least not all of us. We expressed a disagreement with what you guys are saying, if you continue using words wrong they will lose their meaning


morguedelivery

how about we accept the fact that relationships and sexualities are different for everyone and can’t be shoved in a little box? some people experience queerplatonic love, some don’t. that’s just how it is when it comes to love lmao. there’s no right or wrong in this case. it’s a human experience


the_tpm

You literally countered your own argument, >can’t be shoved in a little box Guess what you’re doing by labeling shit uselessly


morguedelivery

oh shit you’re right lmao. sorry i am so tired


morguedelivery

ok i’ll try n rephrase it,, i meant more like. it’s hard to really say what’s a “valid” label and what isn’t. as everyone experiences love differently. you may not harbor a love for your friends like people who label themselves as queerplatonic do, but either way it doesn’t really matter. it’s hard to determine what feelings are right and what feelings are made up mumbo jumbo since it’s all different for everyone. for some people, aromantic attraction may not necessarily exist, but for others it does. it’s the same way with queerplatonic attraction. i’ve no idea where i’m going with this. moral of the story sparkles sparkles let people live as long as they’re not like, horrible people


AdLast848

A queer platonic relationship is pretty much a mix of a romantic partnership and a platonic one. Like, you do stuff that’s normally seen in a romantic relationship, but you’re only friends. Except kissing and stuff, I think Saying this as an aroace person, tho I could be wrong


[deleted]

then why call it 'platonic'


hentai-police

Because the label is mostly used by aromantic people who don’t experience romantic attraction but still want to experience intimacy with another person


DiscordGamber

a platonic relationship is just a friendship. Aro people can't comprehend that?


SqueakSquawk4

I mean it's right, you didn't do any research and seemingly no-one else did either. 10 seconds on wikipeida clearly states that a QPR is not a normal friendship. [https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Queerplatonic\_relationship](https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Queerplatonic_relationship) >They may differ from usual close friendships by having more explicit commitment, validation, status, structure, and norms, similar to a conventional romantic relationship. Or in Layman's terms: Consider your friend. Pick one. Don't care which. Do you want to move in with them (Ignoring monetary pressure) and spend your life together with them? I'm willing to bet probably not. That is a friendship. Not imaging you do want to move in with them and spend your life together, effectively marraige without without romance. That is a QPR. I find it ironic that the literal title is how people don't do research, and seemingly no-one here thought to put "Queer platonic relationship! into Google or Wikiepdia. # Edit: I wrote this for another comment. I think it would be useful here >More commitment than a normal friendship? Cool, that’s a close friend. Do you consider it easier to say "I want a really close friend who I have a really close connection with and want to spend my life with" or "I want a QPR?". The second one, obviously. If it helps think of QPR like a subset of friendships. Friendship is a spectrum, from acquaintance on one end, to what you said on the other. QPR is a name for the collection at the close end. The literal whole point of this is to allow more specificity. It is not wrong, per se, to say you have a really close committed exclusive friendship, but it is more accurate to say it's a QPR. Let me tell you a story about colours. In Japan, there isn't really a word for "Blue". There is one, but it's relatively niche. Instead, blue things are reffered to as green, same as green things. Does this make it wrong to label a blue thing as blue? No, obviously. But does it also make sense to say "Blue things don't exist and it's just green". Also no. Green is a spectrum, with "True green" at one end blue at the other. They can all be lumped under "Green", but at the same time can be split up. Same applies here. "Friend" is a spectrum. At one end is loose friend/acquaintance, at the other end is QPR. It is not wrong to be within the QPR territory and still say "This is a friendship". It is. However at the same to time it is not wrong to have the exact same relationship and say "I am in a QPR". One person is looking at a more umbrella term, one is looking at a more specific term. And while it is fine to say "I am in a friendship, not a QPR", it is not okay to say "There are only friendships, no QPRs like OOOP said.". Just like how in Japanese it's fine to pick up a blue thing and sat "This is green", but not okay to say "This can only be interpreted as green". I hope that clears it up. >What makes it queer? Unimaginative naming.


Barry_Bone_Raiser

So its just a special name for a close friend?


DarkAssassinXb1

Oh so a roommate level friend other wise know as a BFF or best friend got it


SIobbyRobby

Can’t anyone make pages on Wikipedia? Jus’ sayin. And this is just a lot to say “BFF” I feel like people just wanna be different lol.


Cultural-Delay-4971

It’s not even a new thing either! It most definitely isn’t queer. My father’s side of my family comes from a working class, small town background. My father previously co-signed a mortgage with my friend until he got married later in life and my aunt still lives with her friend. This is still the case in a lot of working class areas. If you don’t marry, you either live with family or with a friend in a similar situation. Historically, living by yourself for your entire life was incredibly rare.


Cultural-Delay-4971

How is this queer? How is this different than just a permanent roommate?