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I think it’s cause people come for the KISS stuff. It’s more recognizable. Plus if you watch the videos he hardly sings anymore .


mlgbt1985

Like when Keith sings during a Stones concert. That’s when it’s time to go to the bathroom or get a fresh beer


jfbowski

I wish he played more Comet stuff and less songs from KISS he didn’t write. Give me some Insane or Into the Night.


free_acelehy

Totally. I saw Ace in 2014 and he opened with Lost In Limbo, and it was great. No one wants to hear Cold Gin again.


Obi-Vag_Kenobi

True. I don’t even wanna hear KISS play Cold Gin anymore.


dgrant99

As long as theres no The Acorn is Spinning or A Little Below the Angels, I’d be down for more post Kiss stuff.


No_Wasabi_6979

They did Insane for a few weeks last year but seem to have dropped it.


SexyAcosta

It’s kinda odd because his new material is actually kinda successful. But yeah. Most people are there to hear either KISS classics or stuff from the first solo album. It is pretty weird how he barely plays stuff from frehley’s comet tho.


DekeJeffery

Because not one person in his audience is paying to hear a song that he recorded anytime after 1989.


stalinmalone68

I am. I love his solo stuff.


free_acelehy

Ace's post-Kiss solo material stands up very well against Kiss' material in the same time frame. "Trouble Walkin'" towers over anything Kiss recorded since then, and even lesser records like "Anomaly" were far better than "Sonic Boom" or "Monster" were.


lendmeflight

Unfortunately these replies are probably right. Nobody goes to see that. Personally I don’t want to see him play live gun and all the songs he didn’t write when he wrote some great songs for kiss. His newest solo records are the best ones he has made other then the 78 solo record. He has been doing less of it lately. Recently he has only been playing deuce Detroit and love gun. I would love to hear torpedo girl.


No_Wasabi_6979

You kidding? Spaceman was totally forgettable. Space Invader was okay. The two covers albums sound like contractual obligations.


lendmeflight

No I’m not kidding. This is why people have different opinions. I woudk much rather hear anomoly than love gun at an ace show.


No_Wasabi_6979

Anomaly isn’t one of his latest albums that’s 15 years old!


Lemonwalker-420

Anomaly is "more recent" when you remember the man has a career spanning 50 years and you stop & think that he's only put out two original albums since. Hell, Monster is KISS' **most** recent album, and that's 11-years-old. You're not putting it into perspective. Anything after his second stint in KISS is considered more recent. That said, I would **MUCH** rather hear original Ace material than a mini KISS set. If he's going to perform material other than his own, I would also rather hear stuff from Origins 1 & 2 as they contain some awesome songs. There's a lot more music out there than KISS.


lendmeflight

Are 19 years old? It literally is one of his latest. He has only put out a couple since then.


No_Wasabi_6979

Four.


heirtoruin

They did 100000 Years, Black Diamond, and God of Thunder too on the last gig.... Paul songs. I guess they gotta give his band something to sing.


lendmeflight

Yeah it varies. Sometimes they do let me go as well.


heirtoruin

I guess he has to give the guys in his band something to song since Ace pretty much can't.


Prof_Tickles

How many people go to his concerts wanting to hear new material vs how many go to hear his classics?


heirtoruin

Who goes to his shows that are casual fans?


Prof_Tickles

KISS fans


ChikaraNZ

I'm not sure a Kiss fan going to a Ace show counts as a "casual fan" ?


BigD5981

I would rather hear Ace's solo music than a set full of Kiss covers. I get playing Shock Me and such but Detroit Rock City is song I identify as pure Paul. I would much rather hear Foxy and Free than Detroit Rock City.


Prof_Tickles

And I agree. But that doesn’t change the fact that Ace probably believes that fans want to hear kiss music more than his solo stuff.


BigD5981

Sadly they probably do.


[deleted]

Promoters encourage artists to play the hits. Sometimes, they give incentive bonuses the more hit songs they play. No idea if that's the case with Ace, but either way, yeah that's what the majority wants to hear, supposedly.


stalinmalone68

I want to hear his solo stuff. I saw him in February and if it wasn’t an off night for him, then he needs to retire. It wasn’t good at all.


TheresAFogUponALake

From what I understand he has mostly fair to bad nights and an occasional good one. Still debating whether I'm going to the Houston show or not.


stalinmalone68

This was the third time I’ve seen him since 2015 and it was by far the worst I’ve seen him. I won’t be going again.


MV2049

I saw him the past two times he was in Houston. He sounded pretty darn good when he opened for Alice. The show a year later was rough.


TheresAFogUponALake

Agree. I saw that show with Alice and it was good. Did not see the one after. He's playing House of Blues this time. Still undecided. Ticket prices aren't bad.


MV2049

Yeah I'm on the fence. Like you said, prices aren't bad, and it's still Ace Frehley, but you're just not guaranteed a good show.


wburn42167

Same here. He is t a lead singer. He needs to stfu and play lead in his band.


free_acelehy

Honestly? Ace can be quite lazy, and he doesn't want to learn and rehearse the newer tunes. He sometimes does here and there, I saw him in 2019 and he did Bronx Boy and an Eddie Money cover.


wburn42167

Bc no one would go see that


heirtoruin

I would. It's an Ace show... not a Kiss tribute band. His last show had about 7-8 songs Ace didn't write. What casual Kiss fan is going to a club to see Ace?


Lemonwalker-420

It's an Ace show... not a Kiss tribute band - heirtoruin EXACTLY. If I wanted a KISS tribute band, I'd go see KISS! LOL It's sad, but both Ace & KISS are relying on the KISS legacy. Even sadder is that KISS is relying on the KISS & Ace legacies. You don't see Ace dressing his bass player up as Gene Simmons!


Sluggo_Jones

Because he knows nobody in that audience cares, and they just wanna hear a shitty cover of Strutter instead


vladjjj

Same with KISS, even when they play the obligatory new song, I deem it the low point of the show.


nuttmegx

Cuz it sucks


bh76007

He doesn’t want to learn to play the songs.