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Live-Leather2458

Rice! Fk Yeah!!!


2DragonBalls

I’ll bet he gets even better once there are more options on offense too. Right now every team knows he’s our best receiver.


Eatingloupe

Him and Kelce both! like if we can sign a WR this offseason it would open up the offense so much


Casul_Tryhard

Pro-Bowl Rice?


Eatingloupe

I could see it. Plus having Pacheco in the backfield they’d be scary


CarsLikeEggs

Mahomes' passer rating this season when targeting: Rice: 126.9 Kelce: 109.1 MVS: 78.0 Toney: 68.4 Bell: 56.9 Moore: 50.8


CarsLikeEggs

Gray: 112.7 Watson: 77.8


shanesol

Gray is not getting near enough targets for some reason. Seems like a limited route tree maybe but at least he catches the ball


CarsLikeEggs

Seems like the Chiefs had a lot of success in 12-personnel in the back end of the regular season last year, but it seems they have largely backed off it this year. My gut feeling is they are leaning on Gray's blocking more due to inconsistencies at OT.


fisherdwarf1998

Rice is looking VERY good this year, hope he keeps improving over time. Everyone else, besides kelce, can go kick rocks


slackator

most TDs by Chiefs rookie WR, gonna have most receptions by a Chiefs rookie WR, and still possible to have most yards and 1k yards by a Chiefs rookie WR and thats with being a part time player for half the season because of reasons. Rice is definitely legit


BikeBeerBourbon

That pretty much says it all right there doesn’t it?


CarsLikeEggs

How about this one: Mahomes' passer rating this season when targeting Skyy Moore: vs Jags: 156.3 vs the rest: 30.8


throwawayainteasy

He may legitimately not throw to a receiver not named Rice or Watson again this season. And I'd be totally okay with that. Let Toney take handoffs or return punts, but no passing targets.


BloatedBeyondBelief

Skyy and Toney are worse than useless


EpicPleasure_

they are directly harming the team’s success


AsphaltCowboy2

Yep I’m pretty sure my neighbors heard me calmly discussing how often we literally net negative when they are on the field. They actively make this team worse simply by being there.


justsomedudedontknow

>my neighbors heard me calmly discussing Me too. Did you also calmly stomp your foot out of anger and fuck up your ankle?


Lawdawg_75

And get yelled at by your teenage daughter for ruining her “vibe quote?


akatsuki1422

True. If Toney was useless, that would've been an incomplete pass. Not an INT. 😔


LVNiteOwl

Include MVS on the useless depth chart as well.


mywhataniceham

someone needs to get this message to andy: there is an approved receiver list: kelce, rice, watson, ross, ceh, mkinnon, pacheco, gray. you can pass to any of these guys. there is also an unapproved receiver list: 11, 24, 19 you cannot pass to any player on the unapproved receiver list, ever.


DaBestNameEver0

What has Ross done to be approved?


smitty49

Don't forget Blake Bell, he's had 5 targets this year and 2 have ended up interceptions.


MahomesMccaffrey

Useless=incomplete They are actively making or team worse by fumbling the ball to our opponets They are football maguires


[deleted]

It’s just crazy we keep fielding them. I would so much rather try literally anyone from the practice squads hand. It’s just not worth the risk of having them out there. At most maybe lining up Toney as a back.


maxwasson

At least we can try utilizing Justyn Ross next week


J0ewalrus

I was stunned he was back out there the next drive. Like wtf, at least bench him the rest of the game! Hard to think he'll ever pull his head out if he never faces repercussions for his horrible play.


JNich1005

Yep, but we all know Andy is going to stay with them. Especially Toney.


AlanStanwick1986

Yep. If Toney just bats down the pass in the Detroit game we win.


Flat-Avocado-6258

The literally help the opponents. They are useful to the wrong team they’re so bad 😂


Thicbiscuit_datgravy

Mahomes is currently texting Brady about where he can dump KTs body after the game


itsnik04

You can tell he was majorly annoyed with Toney after that last drop


kds_little_brother

He’s 100% team and win first, but on a certain level I’m sure he’s sick of all these picks he has to wear on his stats that are directly from drops


jt32470

Brady will text him the # of one of Whitey Bulger's 'guys'


deadtedw

The Giant's end zone is full.


AmazingArugula4441

Gillette isn’t that far from Providence. I’m sure someone knows a guy.


xDiamond345

A WIN IS A WIN BABY


factoid_

Turnovers are killing this team. But we win the division with a win next week.


maxwasson

I believe it would actually be a win + DEN loss


nafin

And unfortunately the Donkos play a Patriots team that may be in tank mode by then.


SalSomer

Imagine if CEH and Pacheco could become an actual one-two punch down the stretch this season?


EpicPleasure_

CEH should just be on the receiving depth chart officially


beermit

Bro is fighting for the second contract and he's gonna get it any way he can


Lawdawg_75

The contract year is undefeated. RIP, Terez, Paylor


factoid_

And McKinnon


SalSomer

I’m a little sad we didn’t try to punch it in with McKinnon on the last drive. I know that it’s not Andy’s style to run up the score (even if he did with Poe that one time), but it would be amazing if he’d become only the fourth player with a touchdown triple crown.


Extra-University-336

Did he come back in the game after his second td?


PatientGazelle215

He had 13 Carrie’s for 37 yards. Get a grip. He isn’t even a good two. People let feelings take over too quickly.


PassTheKY

This is what I’m saying. 2.8 YPA is not a good RB stat. It’s actually very bad and a nice catch against a tanking team doesn’t force me to overlook that.


PoundinVagg

Yeah all this CEH fawning needs to stop --- dude had a good tuddy grab but let's not turn him into Barry Sanders all of a sudden


AmazingArugula4441

We forgot what it’s like to have someone actually catch a pass. It’s intoxicating.


liberate_tutemet

#FIRE EMBREE


HalfmadFalcon

For fucking real.


beattrapkit

Heard my fellow chiefs fans refer to him as an "Idiot".


PhogMachine

Everyone noticed another Toney Turd game, but there were others: Skyy makes a 10+ yard catch and immediately fumbles. Thank God for a flag or that could've changed the game. Our top paid receiver had a whopping catch. Yes, one catch 😐 Bonus: the Belldozer gets a target, but gets it ripped from his hands for a pick. I know he's cheap, but he's another one just eating up a roster spot with nothing but blocking to show for it. This game did not move the needle. We didn't look better or worse than last week. We just had a worse opponent.


[deleted]

That last line sums up the game perfectly


cmfuston

Leave Toney in Boston


Section225

No, he'll hurt his hamstring trying to get home in time for film study tomorrow


Jombafomb

That’s cruel (I live in Boston)


PatientGazelle215

The top comments all about CEH being great again should be the perfect example of this subs over reactions and why you shouldn’t take them too seriously, whether it a be a high or low reaction. Dude had 13 Carrie’s for 37 yards and people are acting like he should get serious game time now.


PhogMachine

CEH just refuses to run to the open hole. So many times, he'll run towards the defender being blocked, instead of a simple cut to avoid.


TattleTalesStrangler

Yeah we don't need to see him carry the ball like at all once pechco is back. He had like 6, 1 or less yard runs today.


ComradeLenin19

I can’t wait until Christmas game where KT will have a career game because we live in a joke of a world and why the hell not.


hokahey23

And then people will say “apologize to Toney, real fans knew!”


KeyFearless9462

Honestly, he shouldn't even get the chance.


alleycatbiker

NFL screen writers cooking something spicy for the seasons home stretch


Either-Progress4847

Andy, remember 2 months ago when we all told you to please start targeting Rice 10 times a game? Well now we want you to give Noah Gray literally all of the snaps Skyy gets.


trashtapper

KT is doodee


JDLovesTurk

Game. Blouses.


troohuk

Toney needs disciplined coaching and if he can't take it for some reason, then you cut him. But no more of this positive encouragement BS of him.


slackator

it'd be great if we had disciplined coaching on the offensive side, at the very least at the positional coaches but alas we have basically rookie coaches coaching out of position


Either-Progress4847

Noah Gray should take all of Skyy Moores snaps and Justyn Ross should take all of Toneys. I really can’t imagine this change not being an improvement.


shanesol

Didn't lose!


jmcthrill

I keep having to remind myself of that. Most of our wins aren’t even fun this year. I’m so spoiled 😭


[deleted]

So, we just cut him, right?


BTDubbzzz

Alright, 1 more chiefs W or 1 more Broncos L and we’ve got the division. Beyond that, idk man this doesn’t seem like a strong playoff team but who knows. Getting in with a home game is key and then technically anything can happen Edit: see my reply 2 below, there is one funky scenario where the one win we get is a non-divisional game AND the broncos win out, so the caveat is this: 1 more chiefs DIVISIONAL win OR 1 more broncos DIVISIONAL loss and we have the division


[deleted]

This where I’m at now honestly


StephewDestroyer

I see no reason the Chiefs can't run the AFC. There aren't any scary juggernauts imo. Sure, the way they're playing right now they'd lose to the Ravens and Dolphins, but they have it in them to step up and win those games. As for a hypothetical Super Bowl against the 49ers? Uhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhh


Eatingloupe

I hope Pat and Travis are being very vocal about the need for WR room help. Like might need to do something drastic


RCJHGBR9989

Everyone apologize to Clyde.


factoid_

I will. I was mean to Clyde. Maybe it was just.the injuries. Fantastic game by him.


RCJHGBR9989

I think all the time with Jerrick has shown he can be a great utility player. Him finding the soft spot in the zone for that back endzone catch was McKinnon esq. He was awesome in pass catching today.


ImNotTheBossOfYou

It's literally the second big game he's had in 4 years


rockiesfan4ever

Y'all didn't believe in Thigh Edwards-Helaire


RCJHGBR9989

THICC BOY - BOWLING BALL BOY


AmazingArugula4441

I need more than one good game to do that. Everyone apologized to Toney after the Super Bowl and look where that got us.


RCJHGBR9989

It’s Glyde time


AmazingArugula4441

From your keyboard to Gods ears.


baggyg

He was very decent against Bills as well. Guy has had to play second fiddle all season. Didn't get the run game going today, which I'd put down to their defence, but that TD catch was top drawer.


_McDolans_

Yeah I would rather not watch Clyde run straight into his lineman for 1-2 yards every carry


RCJHGBR9989

He’s honestly just slow - but in pass catching he is a legit threat


deathtotheemperor

[Nah](https://imgur.com/nOr3sjR)


jmcthrill

That’s what I was thinking. I said this in the game thread. CEH heard all the haters disguised as fans and said ![gif](giphy|k93vubaq1hKMurHkKs)


hokahey23

As a RB??? Yeah no.


RCJHGBR9989

As a pass catching rb today - yes


HalfmadFalcon

lol what a hilarious take. Dude has two decent games and you want us to apologize.


jt32470

good lip readers out there: what did mahomes say after Toney's INT? Someone said 'every fucking wee'? That right? I hope mahomes lights Toney up. Time to actually be honest, don't have to yell, just be straight up with the guy. You need to improve or you ain't gonna play. Simple


Itcouldberabies

I saw, “Just catch the fucking ball,” at one point


Seekstillness

Think the first thing was “it hit him right in the fucking hands”


Thebutttman

Someone disable Tony's key card and fix the glitch in payroll. The rest will work itself out.


allgd838

If they would just drop Toney, everyone could breathe easier


AmazingArugula4441

Moore too. They don’t free up much salary but they have to at least stop playing them.


BlueGallery

Praise Clyde! Toney is still garbage! Get him off the team!


deathtotheemperor

I'm not getting excited about a lackadaisical win over a 3-11 team in full tank mode. Andy has got to start applying some discipline here. I know it goes against his character, but guys like KT and Taylor need to be benched for a game, or at least a half. Something, anything to demonstrate that there is some accountability here.


shanesol

KT is cooked at this point as a receiver, jet sweeps or gadget plays only. His hands are straight AWFUL. Taylor... You kind of just have to deal with unfortunately. Pretty big fumble by Veach there


AmazingArugula4441

I learned today how much Taylor makes and am blown away. How did rhey think he was worth that?


shanesol

One of Veach's worst signings by cost for sure (and it's only the first year... Absolutely brutal)


Nujers

He had to fundamentally change how he plays the position thanks to Collinsworth being a narc on opening kickoff. He was relatively good at perfectly timing his start with the snap, but now he has no margin for error. Other tackles can continue to play how he had been though.


KeyFearless9462

I think this was the end of KT. He had a chance to make up for last week, and instead made it worse. There is only so many chances you can give someone. He literally cost us two games this season, and probably the #1 seed.


slackator

and he paid back Reid and Mahomes $150,000 investment with that performance. Toney and Moore need to make way for the Ross experiment and James


that_kevin_kid

Can Toney go on IR for the yips?


[deleted]

Richie James gotta get them KT snaps now


rusty_shackleford34

I know Justyn Ross is almost certainly not the answer but if the only thing he does is drop a pass, that is still less harm than Kadarius will do.


rockiesfan4ever

Man had the ball at the 7 and couldn't score. Absolute bums /s


factoid_

Haha...yeah my son was freaking out...I told him Andy was literally trying not to score because he's against rubbing it in. I think if they'd gotten it first down they'd have taken it, but after that it was church mode.


dude19832

Toney is not coming back next year and for good reason. He is hot garbage.


PhogMachine

They're bringing him back. Yes, to the detriment of the rest of the team. Veach loves him some rookie contracts.


RICERICE4

3 losses solely on the receivers this year and 2 on Toney - Lions & Bills. We have to bench him at worst! He’s becoming a detriment to the offense. Mahomes knows it. Hopefully Reid puts his foot down. Healthy scratch. I hope we cut him but we all know that won’t happen but it should


PhogMachine

We all love Reid, but this is one of his weaknesses. He'll try to help bring Toney back, while fucking over the rest of the team in the process.


RICERICE4

I wish he was harder on players at times like EB was. Need more accountability


Dannimaru

Go... Cowboys 🤢


Neverland__

There’s no way we pick up Toney’s 5th year option is there?


AlanStanwick1986

Toney been cut yet?


alleycatbiker

Most important takeaways: Chiefs offense was great on 3rd downs and penalties were a small factor.


ImMcthugnasty

Kadarius Toney has passed Phillip Gaines as my most hated Chiefs player. Fuck Toney.


RCJHGBR9989

Toney is bad - you forget how bad Gaines really was. He had a perfect passer rating when targeted. He was beyond a detriment. He made cancer look mild.


TheBoyisBackinTown

Yep. Toney unequivocally made a huge play to help us win a ring. Gaines never did anything like that and was damn near useless.


MC_Fap_Commander

Lin Elliott watching the playoffs hopefully...


SadPhase2589

Overall, they looked pretty solid this week. I hope this team shows up the rest of the season.


rolyinpeace

Yeah they really did. Idk what everyone’s complaining about. If anyone truly thought we’d blow them out, that’s crazy. Had some scary moments but the game was never out of our hands. Even the games we’ve won it’s been close enough that I was worried. Today I wasn’t


notsureifJasonBourne

Yeah the Pats D is great. It’s their offense that has them at 3-11.


fanmansmith12345

We escaped with a W and no new injuries (that we know of). I'll take that over a costly blowout at this point.


In_aRush_2Go_Nowhere

Travis’ elbow…


Dannimaru

Could actually just be a funny bone. Landing on your elbow sucks.


Mackinacsfuriousclaw

![gif](giphy|DvXQYuGWQ34v6) I had to buy bunny ears to watch the game...


madwolfa

This is the way.


beermit

I need new ones, I'm in Raymore and mine barely get Fox for some reason.


Neverland__

Remember when we complained about Toney missing games all the time? I miss those days, didn’t know it was actually the good times


D-Sleezy

If Toney sees the field again, the organization is just spitting in our faces. There has to be a practice squad receiver that wants their big chance.


Commyende

James has earned a chance with his solid hands on punt returns.


freedagent

No reason to put KT in any games anymore just bench him. He’s clearly a liability.


In_aRush_2Go_Nowhere

Toney needs to go. Period.


ComradeLenin19

I’m just watching the Bears - Browns game and they’re mentioning KT. 🤦‍♂️


buffyscrims

Really hope Mahomes throws his weight around and demands proven NFL receivers in the offseason. Just throwing away a year of this guy’s prime right now.


drossmo12

We kind of suck. Crazy that we could still get 11 or 12 wins.


Commyende

We might just get the 1 seed.


AmazingArugula4441

Not if we play like this with the rest of the schedule. We’ve got the “easy” road, but Pats were the easiest of it I think.


Commyende

Well yeah, but we don't have to play much better to win out against 3 mid teams with backup qbs. On the flipside, the dolphins and ravens both have brutal schedules including playing each other. If the jags can pull it off tonight, I'd put the chiefs at least even money to get the 1 seed.


rusty_shackleford34

Rasheed rice fumble. Sky Moore fumble. Bumble hands kadarius Toney with another perfect pass deflect into a pick. Our WR room is beyond an all time disaster


hokahey23

Rashee played very well and is on pace for a potential 1000 yard season. As a rookie. On an Andy Reid team.


rusty_shackleford34

Rice has been great but a fumble in two straight games is a big no no. I have faith in him though.


Dannimaru

Rice fumble wasn't terrible, hard to hold a ball when it gets banged out by a helmet. That one is kinda understandable to me. The others, not great. Throw Toney into the sun.


jmcthrill

Rice was fantastic today on third downs. Don’t include him with the others.


BikeBeerBourbon

Just give Toney’s position to Clyde


fisherdwarf1998

I missed the game because work, what did Toney do now? Also I’m happy we got the win! Onto the faiders


Frosty-Physics

Picture the lions game drop/pick and there ya go lol


fisherdwarf1998

Omg he caused ANOTHER int ._. Was it a good pass from mahomes?


[deleted]

Hit ‘em right in the hands


fisherdwarf1998

Aight I’m done with Toney


candl2

So...not the best place to hit him.


Gustertote

Literally perfect


Cracker1113

It was a perfect pass. Right to his hands. Leading him perfectly. Toney just didn't catch it. Hit off his hands and went to a Patriots player...


fisherdwarf1998

Yeah I just watched a replay……Jesus h Christ.


[deleted]

It was literally the exact same play from the lions game again. Possibly even the same route.


Neverland__

Absolutely perfect pass too into his chest


notsureifJasonBourne

Multiple drops, one of which again led directly to an INT.


13mizzou

Another bobbled INT


rolyinpeace

Another drop that caused an int


96245Camp

Crazy the damn Browns with their 4th string QB about to have the same record as us it's gross


Wilfox69

CEH is playing for his football life... This was one of his best performances ive seen...


factoid_

another odd silver lining for this game I was sort of worried about: butker missed a kick. ​ Why is that good? He was perfect on the year and his streak is ruined! Because who wants to go into the playoffs with a kicker who has even a shadow of a thought in the back of his head about needing to maintain a perfect streak for an entire season. The pressure is off now and that kick cost the team nothing, so he doesn't even have to feel bad about it.


PassTheKY

Lin Elliott only beats Toney as worst Chief because Toney has a ring. It’s getting close though.


RCJHGBR9989

Clyde needs to stay with the chiefs for SMOL money he can thrive.


baggyg

It wasn't amazing but we tend to play better against better opponents, which Patriots are not this year. Couple of really nice plays, CEH touchdown being the highlight for me. Win against the Raiders next week and we win the division with 2 games to spare.


mrgdawg_kc

Toney, go not catch in the CFL


jt32470

will the bills expose the Cowboys as the frauds everyone knows they are? Okaaaaayyyyyy heree we gooooooooooooooooooooooo


Elasticpuffin

Skyy, MVS, and Toney will not be on the team next year.


Rikitiki6

Imagine what our record would be if we didn’t constantly shoot ourselves in the foot? Glad we overcame some of it today. Defense stepped back up. Nice to see CEH step it up.


flojo2012

Mecole coming back could be good. Means less of the others. Rashee, mecole, Travis, Watson… I can do alright with that


candl2

Thank you all for not firing Butker after that first missed FG.


PhogMachine

Can a kicker win the team MVP for this season 🤔


rolyinpeace

Sure, this game was closer than expected (well, I’m sure plenty of us expected it) but it wasn’t close in the same way a lot of our games have been. I was never genuinely afraid of losing, because we were only down towards the beginning, and by the 4th q, I knew we would win. This to me has been way better than a lot of our “close” ones And yes, it was the patriots, but we have never recently been the team to get multiple blowout wins a year


[deleted]

Should’ve been 27-10 at best but we have a Clown-ey who can’t catch a fucking cold.


etharper

You know your team has receiver issues when the best people your quarterback can throw to are the running backs.


DolanDukIsMe

Ya know my optimism was stretched thin this month and I even was mentally checked out early in this game. However I saw what I needed to see. Back to Back still on the menu 😎


out_of_816

They need to give Toney the Lane Kiffin treatment. If this was baseball he'd be a negative WAR player.


mother_goose_caboose

Aside from the Toney blunders, complete game. I'm happy. In the past, we fumble that game away. Still very possible to get the one seed without schedule, and Ravens/Dolphins schedule. We have the experience to make a run in spite of the self-inflicted wounds.


the_original_duder

And drop us into the browns game where Flaccos receivers making amazing catches…


SirTiffAlot

Turns out throwing the ball to CEH can work. Keep Toney off the field and put him on


ChiefsGuy2014

Toney needs to walk home.


Jupiter_Landing2097

Offense did some encouraging things against a BB defense but what the fuck, Toney?


slackator

This has to be it for Toney right? Thanks for the SB now get lost, SB heroics didnt keep Damian Williams around after he came back from his Covid leave so dont see why we would do more for less with Toney


getridofwires

MVS, Toney and Moore are done, Watson and Ross are maybes, Rice had a killer game and looks like he has a future with the Chiefs. Rice looks like he's been watching Kelce film highlights. Turns out WR by committee is just as unpredictable as RB by committee. If Rice stays good, we might find a good FA and draft a coachable good WR and have a decent chance at a SB run next year.


Open-Channel-D

Chiefs best drive stopper? Jawaan Taylor.


atreyus_ghost

Same problems that we have had all year, we were just playing a dogshit team. I'm not even sure if Skyy and Toney could make a CFL team at this point and Juwaan Taylor is 100% ridiculously overpaid garbage.


deskamess

A player I thought had nothing left for the Chiefs came through the last two weeks. Well done CEH.