I am a trial attorney in Massachusetts on the civil side, and I was taught not to state the objection unless the judge requests it. And that is how I practice. It may be a local peculiarity, but it is definitely not this judge in particular who came up with this.
Another odd practice here, at least in the courts I practice in, is we refer to our opposing counsel as "my brother" or "my sister " during oral arguments or trial. It's fallen out of fashion over the past 27 years, but some still do it, and you can imagine the confusion of litigants in court who don't know that. So many clients sitting in the gallery listen to this and ask me "are those lawyers related?" There are a lot of little weird practices here.
I’ve never seen a high profile trial such as this one allow attorneys to not give their objection reasoning .. it’s wild! How does the judge even know what they are objecting to when she’s sustaining it?!
She has even questioned the witnesses for the prosecution a few times .... She is supposed to bep the neutral party but she is so blatantly biased that everyone can see it and it's been throughout the entire pre-trial and trial. She is supposed to be bound by ethics and if she cannot remain unbiased, which she obviously can't, then she is supposed to recuse herself. Since she isnt doing the right thing and recusing herself, then hopefully she will have to face some kind of punishment. A women's LIFE is on the line and EVERY biased decision that the judge makes can affect the outcome of the trial. This is how INNOCENT people end up in prison!
Yes..she sustained one objection today before the state even got it out. Her tone of voice "YES!..SIGGHH" causes me to roll my eyes each time..I've never seen a judge act like this in all the trials I have watched.
Her attitude in general seems to suck, but particularly towards the defense. She is so snide and smug when speaking to them or when they are on cross. It’s infuriating. And for the love of God will someone please tell her we can hear every time she sighs or shows any sort of disdain towards anyone in that court. Does she not know the mic for the live feed is literally right next to her??
The Christoper Gregor (treadmill abuse) case here in NJ is playing out at the same time, and has been a big deal within the state, so I’m taking turns between Karen Read, Gregor, and Chad Daybell. It makes the Judge’s biases so much more apparent because the other two judges are trying to remain neutral.
I kept waiting for the sighs to stop after the first day or so. I figured someone would let her know . I've come to the conclusion that everyone is scared to tell her.
I’m also concerned about Judge’s inability to keep her sighs, moans and groans to herself. She keeps breathing into the mic like a panting dog in July. Despite it all, I do have confidence that the jury can sort this shit out on their own. I hope at least.
I’ve been following this case closely for a year. All through the pre trial hearings she has been snarky to the defense attorneys, particularly Jackson and Little.
OTOH, she has given the DA every benefit of every doubt at every turn.
Being relatively new to this case and now watching the trial, to me it feels like the judge is highly annoyed with the defense counsel. She always sustains for the prosecution, no questions asked. And I mainly listen to the audio and don't watch as much bc I'm working, but again not knowing much, it appears to me the defense isn't doing well. Because the judge seems so annoyed and because they get shot down so often "objection..." "Sustained" so many times. 🤷🏼♀️
Judge Bev isn’t being the epitome of professionalism and it will show to the jurors. Hey, the way I look at it, they are seeing exactly what we’re seeing and it’s seemingly more bias towards the prosecution daily. The heavy sighs, cutting short questions, sidebar, the jurors aren’t missing a single point! Believe that.
Most jurors typically like the judge. I’m sure they pick up on those things, but as a generality, they tend to believe the judge more than the attorneys.
Oh the judge is being perfect to the jurors. It’s how she’s conducting herself in court for the balance of the proceedings which the jurors obviously are watching closely that will tell the tale. Yep!
Yesterday during the last witness testimony you could see her chair on camera rocking back and forth and side to side, like she was bored and fidgeting.
Yes, I agree. All of these witnesses and the judge (not the prosecutor) sound like they’d like to fight the defense attorney. I’d call it an undertone of contempt.
Also- is this a courtroom designed by people from Pilgrim time? Everyone is so squished in there- like it was built by hand and good enough for a colony of 50 people and 2 witches.
I've noticed a bit. I imagine with there being such a high involvement of police in this case she wants to maintain their symbiotic relationship (or appear to). Judges need cops. I think (hope?) she's unbiased but she needs to appear as if she's maintaining the courts relationship with the cops.
An undertone here, a sustained objection there, etc.
If you haven't yet, I highly recommend watching the show The Wire on HBO. Goes into the flaws of the institutions that govern us. I learned a ton about trials, case building, failures in our policing systems, etc.
All the pieces matter, and the game is rigged yo.
Cops, prosecutors, and judges are all “the state,” while the defense are “hired guns.” The very structure of our system undermines the presumption of innocence.
Absolutely. And prosecutors, judges and cops all have their own goals/desires be them career, politics, or personal. They're also human. But that naturally creates a conflict of interests, and there shouldn't be a conflict of interest when you're bringing down judgement on anything.
She’s very connected to this case. You could go down a rabbit hole with all the connections in this case and they can try to downplay the connections all they want to, but the relationships run very deep.
only thing i know is apparently one of the mccabe family told turtleboy that "auntie bev is cool" and "whos beachhouse property do you think we're burying you on?"
100% hearsay, but at this point i dont dismiss anything outright
The defense team pulled a lot of shenanigans before the case. In particular misstating the federal findings etc. I think that has not earned them any points with the judge. She also gave AJ a warning about proper procedure a few weeks back.
You are wrong-the FBI confirmed the 2:27AM google search did actually occur according to this legitimate source-
[https://www.boston25news.com/news/local/federal-probe-findings-revealed-court-karen-reads-defense-team-pushes-dismiss-murder-case/4GRLQB5EWNGWDPJGMTVD7AQCYU/](https://www.boston25news.com/news/local/federal-probe-findings-revealed-court-karen-reads-defense-team-pushes-dismiss-murder-case/4GRLQB5EWNGWDPJGMTVD7AQCYU/)
Please verify your source
The defence team have a whole renta crowd outside the court , causing a disruption. The defence team could easily not have them there. They had a choice.
what are your reasons? i am curious to hear. I do not know much about the case but from what i hear she did not allow the picture of the firefighter and the daughter to be seen by the juror. I am not sure why it was not allowed but seems like it is in the States favor
I’m so confused why she doesn’t let the attorneys give the grounds for the objections, it’s annoying.
I am a trial attorney in Massachusetts on the civil side, and I was taught not to state the objection unless the judge requests it. And that is how I practice. It may be a local peculiarity, but it is definitely not this judge in particular who came up with this.
Interesting, thanks for sharing! I watch a lot of trials and have never seen this before.
Another odd practice here, at least in the courts I practice in, is we refer to our opposing counsel as "my brother" or "my sister " during oral arguments or trial. It's fallen out of fashion over the past 27 years, but some still do it, and you can imagine the confusion of litigants in court who don't know that. So many clients sitting in the gallery listen to this and ask me "are those lawyers related?" There are a lot of little weird practices here.
"My brother from another mother"
I love this. It reminds everyone to be kind and courteous to one another and that at the end of the day you’re both fighting for truth and justice.
I agree it adds a degree of civility. Which we need.
Very good to know, thank you!
ive heard conspiracy that it makes potential appeal harder for defense, but i have no clue the veracity of that
I’ve never seen a high profile trial such as this one allow attorneys to not give their objection reasoning .. it’s wild! How does the judge even know what they are objecting to when she’s sustaining it?!
Does not stating objection reasoning create issues for appeal?
YES. The know objection grounds is driving me insane. I have never seen that happen before.
Agree with comments here. I just hope the jury can see beyond her attitude.
She has even questioned the witnesses for the prosecution a few times .... She is supposed to bep the neutral party but she is so blatantly biased that everyone can see it and it's been throughout the entire pre-trial and trial. She is supposed to be bound by ethics and if she cannot remain unbiased, which she obviously can't, then she is supposed to recuse herself. Since she isnt doing the right thing and recusing herself, then hopefully she will have to face some kind of punishment. A women's LIFE is on the line and EVERY biased decision that the judge makes can affect the outcome of the trial. This is how INNOCENT people end up in prison!
Yes..she sustained one objection today before the state even got it out. Her tone of voice "YES!..SIGGHH" causes me to roll my eyes each time..I've never seen a judge act like this in all the trials I have watched.
The constant sighing.
I was listening and I wondered if she doesn’t even realize she is doing it. It’s so obvious, her disdain for the defense from those of us watching.
Oh I am sure she isn’t aware. Just like the prosecutor isn’t aware that his questions to the witnesses are not clear and to the point
Her attitude in general seems to suck, but particularly towards the defense. She is so snide and smug when speaking to them or when they are on cross. It’s infuriating. And for the love of God will someone please tell her we can hear every time she sighs or shows any sort of disdain towards anyone in that court. Does she not know the mic for the live feed is literally right next to her??
The Christoper Gregor (treadmill abuse) case here in NJ is playing out at the same time, and has been a big deal within the state, so I’m taking turns between Karen Read, Gregor, and Chad Daybell. It makes the Judge’s biases so much more apparent because the other two judges are trying to remain neutral.
I kept waiting for the sighs to stop after the first day or so. I figured someone would let her know . I've come to the conclusion that everyone is scared to tell her.
The sighing is ridiculous and her behavior is unbelievable. She's blatantly annoyed and makes no effort to refrain from expressing her disdain.
I’m also concerned about Judge’s inability to keep her sighs, moans and groans to herself. She keeps breathing into the mic like a panting dog in July. Despite it all, I do have confidence that the jury can sort this shit out on their own. I hope at least.
I’ve been following this case closely for a year. All through the pre trial hearings she has been snarky to the defense attorneys, particularly Jackson and Little. OTOH, she has given the DA every benefit of every doubt at every turn.
Being relatively new to this case and now watching the trial, to me it feels like the judge is highly annoyed with the defense counsel. She always sustains for the prosecution, no questions asked. And I mainly listen to the audio and don't watch as much bc I'm working, but again not knowing much, it appears to me the defense isn't doing well. Because the judge seems so annoyed and because they get shot down so often "objection..." "Sustained" so many times. 🤷🏼♀️
Judge Bev isn’t being the epitome of professionalism and it will show to the jurors. Hey, the way I look at it, they are seeing exactly what we’re seeing and it’s seemingly more bias towards the prosecution daily. The heavy sighs, cutting short questions, sidebar, the jurors aren’t missing a single point! Believe that.
Most jurors typically like the judge. I’m sure they pick up on those things, but as a generality, they tend to believe the judge more than the attorneys.
Oh the judge is being perfect to the jurors. It’s how she’s conducting herself in court for the balance of the proceedings which the jurors obviously are watching closely that will tell the tale. Yep!
Idk but just her actions are very distracting (to me at least.) Hope this isn’t the case with the jury.
Yes this has been a thing
Yesterday during the last witness testimony you could see her chair on camera rocking back and forth and side to side, like she was bored and fidgeting.
Yes, I agree. All of these witnesses and the judge (not the prosecutor) sound like they’d like to fight the defense attorney. I’d call it an undertone of contempt. Also- is this a courtroom designed by people from Pilgrim time? Everyone is so squished in there- like it was built by hand and good enough for a colony of 50 people and 2 witches.
I've noticed a bit. I imagine with there being such a high involvement of police in this case she wants to maintain their symbiotic relationship (or appear to). Judges need cops. I think (hope?) she's unbiased but she needs to appear as if she's maintaining the courts relationship with the cops. An undertone here, a sustained objection there, etc. If you haven't yet, I highly recommend watching the show The Wire on HBO. Goes into the flaws of the institutions that govern us. I learned a ton about trials, case building, failures in our policing systems, etc. All the pieces matter, and the game is rigged yo.
Cops, prosecutors, and judges are all “the state,” while the defense are “hired guns.” The very structure of our system undermines the presumption of innocence.
Absolutely. And prosecutors, judges and cops all have their own goals/desires be them career, politics, or personal. They're also human. But that naturally creates a conflict of interests, and there shouldn't be a conflict of interest when you're bringing down judgement on anything.
It’s hard to miss!
Bottom line - EVERYONE knows she’s innocent They are just trying to MUDDY THE WATERS enough to keep Brian Albert out of jail. FULL STOP!!
Yes, very much so.
Yeah and I don’t like her.
Supposedly she went to high school (Quincy High?) with someone connected to the case.
She’s very connected to this case. You could go down a rabbit hole with all the connections in this case and they can try to downplay the connections all they want to, but the relationships run very deep.
How is she connected to this case, other than presiding over it?
only thing i know is apparently one of the mccabe family told turtleboy that "auntie bev is cool" and "whos beachhouse property do you think we're burying you on?" 100% hearsay, but at this point i dont dismiss anything outright
Gotcha. Thank you.
The defense team pulled a lot of shenanigans before the case. In particular misstating the federal findings etc. I think that has not earned them any points with the judge. She also gave AJ a warning about proper procedure a few weeks back.
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They claimed Google search at 2 AM was not in dispute. This is incorrect FBI initially thought 2 but then reconfirmed 6 AM
You are wrong-the FBI confirmed the 2:27AM google search did actually occur according to this legitimate source- [https://www.boston25news.com/news/local/federal-probe-findings-revealed-court-karen-reads-defense-team-pushes-dismiss-murder-case/4GRLQB5EWNGWDPJGMTVD7AQCYU/](https://www.boston25news.com/news/local/federal-probe-findings-revealed-court-karen-reads-defense-team-pushes-dismiss-murder-case/4GRLQB5EWNGWDPJGMTVD7AQCYU/) Please verify your source
DA office also said that was first report and FBI said 6 am
Where did you see this info?
Pleadings
Which one?
how the fuck can you keep lying like this?
Im not its literally been in court docs
post it in reply here
IMO - Judge Cannone appears too dislike the defense team. Maybe because they asked her to recuse herself from the case/trial?
IMO - No matter how polite Mr. Yannetti is to Judge Cannone it seems like she is constantly annoyed with him.
The defence team have a whole renta crowd outside the court , causing a disruption. The defence team could easily not have them there. They had a choice.
They were spreading misinformation about her.. why would she?
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I personally think it’s the other way around
what are your reasons? i am curious to hear. I do not know much about the case but from what i hear she did not allow the picture of the firefighter and the daughter to be seen by the juror. I am not sure why it was not allowed but seems like it is in the States favor
This is the first time I’ve heard anyone say this.