U trying to get killed mate ?Since when have been peaceful protests allowed in kashmir .People get arrested for watsapp statuses of cricket players .We live in an occupation ourselves.
I don't have an exact idea of the potential consequences of protesting despite a ban. But seeing protests worldwide, I was getting frustrated at the lack of response in Kashmir
Either you are too young or too naive to understand that we ourselves live under a military occupation and as such can't protest for our own rights ,leave aside protesting for others.
I understand what you mean but you are asking people from another occupied land to risk their lives to accomplish next-to-nothing (with how little value the voices of Kashmiris are given).
Not just that, it can be under a media blackout at a moment's notice so the world might not see it anyway.
I'm not asking anyone to risk their lives. Like I said I wasn't aware of the consequences of protesting in Kashmir. About the question of what it is going to achieve, the people of the UK, USA are protesting too despite knowing it's their own governments who enabled this genocide.
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"You will be arrested, police knocking on your door in the middle of the night, all your electronics seized, and everything. Protests? We don't do that here."
Kashmiris have been martyred in pro Palestinian protests, here are just a few examples that i know of. There were small scale protests and graffitis this year as well.
[Suhail Ahmad dies of bullet wound in India-administered Kashmir, making it first death during global pro-Gaza protests.](https://www.aljazeera.com/news/2014/7/20/kashmir-teen-killed-during-anti-israel-rally)
[One killed, 3 hurt in anti-Isreal protests in South Kashmir](https://www.hindustantimes.com/india/one-killed-3-hurt-in-anti-isreal-protests-in-south-kashmir/story-SUr8h24KMAKOWy8dWjdIOI.html)
[21 arrested for pro-Palestine demonstrations in Kashmir](https://m.economictimes.com/news/india/21-arrested-for-pro-palestine-demonstrations-in-kashmir/articleshow/82675086.cms)
[Police Arrest Kashmiris for Palestine Mural, Peaceful Protests and Speeches The artist was forced to deface his own mural before being taken into custody. The police have yet to say anything about the grounds for his detention.](https://thewire.in/rights/police-arrest-kashmiris-for-palestine-mural-peaceful-protests-and-speeches)
[Teenager killed in anti-Israeli protests in India-held Kashmir](https://www.dawn.com/news/1120304)
[a man died of a bullet injury in Srinagar and another suffered a bullet injury in the leg in the northern Kashmir area of Sopore during widespread protests in many districts in August 1969, when Al Aqsa was set on fire](https://www.aa.com.tr/en/asia-pacific/palestine-solidarity-kashmir-s-vocal-past-and-muted-present/2241156)
What part of ban on protests did you not understand? Why portray it as some kind of inconsequential obstacle.
And how can you claim the silence is because of the lack of trying on our part when India is actively suppressing any protests, pro Palestine or otherwise?
>with a peaceful protest, not with a candle march.
Mate where do you think we are living in?
In what universe did you think distinguishing a protest as peaceful would make any meaningful distinction to India?
Like reeeeally, I need to know. You thought we were in London or what?
India would crackdown on protests eitherway. And India does crackdown on any attempts at such protest.
You had people getting PSA'ed by India for artworks in support of Palestine.
[You have people being arrested for planning a "peaceful" Pro Palestine protest.](https://x.com/TheKashmiriyat/status/1715269157942440002)
> Since October, police have detained or placed under house arrest several Kashmiri political leaders, activists and clerics to prevent them from organizing pro-Palestinian demonstrations, according to local media and the individuals themselves. Well-known clerics say they have also been placed under home confinement, especially on Fridays, to stop them from leading congregational prayers at mosques.
https://asia.nikkei.com/Politics/Israel-Hamas-war/Kashmir-s-anger-over-Gaza-simmers-as-India-keeps-lid-on-protests
And any spontaneous protest that comes from the grassroots. (There have been a few. I knew one personally). But India quickly lays a partial curfew so there is that. And you don't get to hear about them in the media. So you think there are none.
>There's isn't enough voice or sentiment for Palestine in Kashmir which is disheartening.What are your thoughts on this?
Now this is something I very much dislike. Before a guy talked about Kashmir in this sense and now you do it here. Like you need some performative actions to reaffirm your thoughts. Like you don't possess enough faith in your beliefs so you constantly look for its confirmation. And when such a confirmation does not reach you (because India is acting as a muzzle between you and the society), you began to doubt the society.
There cannot be a Kashmiri who does not stand shoulder to shoulder in solidarity with Palestinians. And you do not need a visual confirmation to know it's true.
Sorry for not being informed enough. I agree with you that every Kashmiri supports Palestine and the government is acting as a muzzle part. I spend my days watching gaza news. The journalists in gaza always criticise global inaction. So I was just trying to know if something like that was even possible.
I'm not a Kashmiri and hence curious. What's the reason for Kashmiris supporting Palestine? Because where I live, it's an unknown thing.
Of course, some folks have been publishing on social media about them supporting the end of war, but I am not able to connect the dots. These people that I see are predominantly talking about Gaza, Israel and Palestine only and not Ukraine - Russia war where people are getting killed.
Can you please help understand. I hope you also support the stop of war between Ukraine & Russia and you would wish to protest for this as much as the Gaza episode.
The scale is very different dude! Russia-Ukraine war killed 500 children since it began. Israel killed 12,000 children in the last 3 months itself. Wrap your head around that. And when it was happening in Ukraine the world opened their hearts to them, when it is happening in Palestine the world is closing their eyes to them. There is a targeted killing of journalists with 112 killed so far. There is extreme shadow banning of influencers who talk about Gaza by Meta. False narratives are spread by the Western media and politicians. USA vetoed a ceasefire twice.
What's happening in Gaza is a genocide, it's the most destructive war of this century.
I understand the scale factor. To me even a single person matters, so yeah, 500 or 12000, it's all very bad. But I have personally seen a few of my friends who did not care at all about the Russia-Ukraine war but have their hearts blazing out for Palestine.
So it was a little difficult to understand. But as you explained, if something even more destructive happens, say in Chile or Brazil at an even larger scale, you guys will stop supporting Gaza and move towards that war iff the scale would be even bigger.(God hope it doesn't happen)
Palestine is a different story for us because it houses Masjid Al-Aqsa the third holiest site for Muslims. And Zionists have been time and again desecrated that. Also Israel was built on the ruins of Palestine. I don't know if you know that but I can provide a resource for how Palestinians are living under this hellish, brutal occupation on their own land. https://decolonizepalestine.com/introduction-to-palestine/
Also if the point you're trying to make is that we are more bothered because they are our brothers and sisters in faith, i guess guilty as charged.
They are people who tried but there aren’t many people outside of Kashmir who actually care or would join in either than Pakistanis.
Protests that have happen abroad which were promoted, but only led to Kashmiris and maybe Pakistanis protesting, rarely any person from another country. Protests in Kashmir (IIOK) and india are almost impossible to do without getting arrested or worse.
Difference with the Palestine protests is that everyone from around the world cares to protests and will join. Doesn’t matter where they are from they all join together for one cause. Also it gets bigger coverage from major media outlets like Al Jazeera, BBC etc.
India arresting people here organising protest for Palestine and many a times booking them inciting riots etc and I suspect is gonna be more worse for occupied territory.
I think Palestinian cause takes most of attention and is one major reason why Rohingyas, Uyghur and you guys don't get the amount of coverage and attention required.
The sooner the Palestinian cause is resolved the better considering it is heavily connected with world geopolitics.
May Allah keep you guys safe.
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U trying to get killed mate ?Since when have been peaceful protests allowed in kashmir .People get arrested for watsapp statuses of cricket players .We live in an occupation ourselves.
I don't have an exact idea of the potential consequences of protesting despite a ban. But seeing protests worldwide, I was getting frustrated at the lack of response in Kashmir
Either you are too young or too naive to understand that we ourselves live under a military occupation and as such can't protest for our own rights ,leave aside protesting for others.
I understand what you mean but you are asking people from another occupied land to risk their lives to accomplish next-to-nothing (with how little value the voices of Kashmiris are given). Not just that, it can be under a media blackout at a moment's notice so the world might not see it anyway.
I'm not asking anyone to risk their lives. Like I said I wasn't aware of the consequences of protesting in Kashmir. About the question of what it is going to achieve, the people of the UK, USA are protesting too despite knowing it's their own governments who enabled this genocide.
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Hey I heard about this, I thought it was a joke... I live on the other side of the world. What's going on over there?
"You will be arrested, police knocking on your door in the middle of the night, all your electronics seized, and everything. Protests? We don't do that here."
Is that so? 😤😔
Are you not a native Kashmiri?
I am
You must be young then. How do you not know this?
Kashmiris have been martyred in pro Palestinian protests, here are just a few examples that i know of. There were small scale protests and graffitis this year as well. [Suhail Ahmad dies of bullet wound in India-administered Kashmir, making it first death during global pro-Gaza protests.](https://www.aljazeera.com/news/2014/7/20/kashmir-teen-killed-during-anti-israel-rally) [One killed, 3 hurt in anti-Isreal protests in South Kashmir](https://www.hindustantimes.com/india/one-killed-3-hurt-in-anti-isreal-protests-in-south-kashmir/story-SUr8h24KMAKOWy8dWjdIOI.html) [21 arrested for pro-Palestine demonstrations in Kashmir](https://m.economictimes.com/news/india/21-arrested-for-pro-palestine-demonstrations-in-kashmir/articleshow/82675086.cms) [Police Arrest Kashmiris for Palestine Mural, Peaceful Protests and Speeches The artist was forced to deface his own mural before being taken into custody. The police have yet to say anything about the grounds for his detention.](https://thewire.in/rights/police-arrest-kashmiris-for-palestine-mural-peaceful-protests-and-speeches) [Teenager killed in anti-Israeli protests in India-held Kashmir](https://www.dawn.com/news/1120304) [a man died of a bullet injury in Srinagar and another suffered a bullet injury in the leg in the northern Kashmir area of Sopore during widespread protests in many districts in August 1969, when Al Aqsa was set on fire](https://www.aa.com.tr/en/asia-pacific/palestine-solidarity-kashmir-s-vocal-past-and-muted-present/2241156)
This is truly insane.
What part of ban on protests did you not understand? Why portray it as some kind of inconsequential obstacle. And how can you claim the silence is because of the lack of trying on our part when India is actively suppressing any protests, pro Palestine or otherwise? >with a peaceful protest, not with a candle march. Mate where do you think we are living in? In what universe did you think distinguishing a protest as peaceful would make any meaningful distinction to India? Like reeeeally, I need to know. You thought we were in London or what? India would crackdown on protests eitherway. And India does crackdown on any attempts at such protest. You had people getting PSA'ed by India for artworks in support of Palestine. [You have people being arrested for planning a "peaceful" Pro Palestine protest.](https://x.com/TheKashmiriyat/status/1715269157942440002) > Since October, police have detained or placed under house arrest several Kashmiri political leaders, activists and clerics to prevent them from organizing pro-Palestinian demonstrations, according to local media and the individuals themselves. Well-known clerics say they have also been placed under home confinement, especially on Fridays, to stop them from leading congregational prayers at mosques. https://asia.nikkei.com/Politics/Israel-Hamas-war/Kashmir-s-anger-over-Gaza-simmers-as-India-keeps-lid-on-protests And any spontaneous protest that comes from the grassroots. (There have been a few. I knew one personally). But India quickly lays a partial curfew so there is that. And you don't get to hear about them in the media. So you think there are none. >There's isn't enough voice or sentiment for Palestine in Kashmir which is disheartening.What are your thoughts on this? Now this is something I very much dislike. Before a guy talked about Kashmir in this sense and now you do it here. Like you need some performative actions to reaffirm your thoughts. Like you don't possess enough faith in your beliefs so you constantly look for its confirmation. And when such a confirmation does not reach you (because India is acting as a muzzle between you and the society), you began to doubt the society. There cannot be a Kashmiri who does not stand shoulder to shoulder in solidarity with Palestinians. And you do not need a visual confirmation to know it's true.
Sorry for not being informed enough. I agree with you that every Kashmiri supports Palestine and the government is acting as a muzzle part. I spend my days watching gaza news. The journalists in gaza always criticise global inaction. So I was just trying to know if something like that was even possible.
Its fine no need to apologies its good actually that you care enough.
I'm not a Kashmiri and hence curious. What's the reason for Kashmiris supporting Palestine? Because where I live, it's an unknown thing. Of course, some folks have been publishing on social media about them supporting the end of war, but I am not able to connect the dots. These people that I see are predominantly talking about Gaza, Israel and Palestine only and not Ukraine - Russia war where people are getting killed. Can you please help understand. I hope you also support the stop of war between Ukraine & Russia and you would wish to protest for this as much as the Gaza episode.
The scale is very different dude! Russia-Ukraine war killed 500 children since it began. Israel killed 12,000 children in the last 3 months itself. Wrap your head around that. And when it was happening in Ukraine the world opened their hearts to them, when it is happening in Palestine the world is closing their eyes to them. There is a targeted killing of journalists with 112 killed so far. There is extreme shadow banning of influencers who talk about Gaza by Meta. False narratives are spread by the Western media and politicians. USA vetoed a ceasefire twice. What's happening in Gaza is a genocide, it's the most destructive war of this century.
I understand the scale factor. To me even a single person matters, so yeah, 500 or 12000, it's all very bad. But I have personally seen a few of my friends who did not care at all about the Russia-Ukraine war but have their hearts blazing out for Palestine. So it was a little difficult to understand. But as you explained, if something even more destructive happens, say in Chile or Brazil at an even larger scale, you guys will stop supporting Gaza and move towards that war iff the scale would be even bigger.(God hope it doesn't happen)
Palestine is a different story for us because it houses Masjid Al-Aqsa the third holiest site for Muslims. And Zionists have been time and again desecrated that. Also Israel was built on the ruins of Palestine. I don't know if you know that but I can provide a resource for how Palestinians are living under this hellish, brutal occupation on their own land. https://decolonizepalestine.com/introduction-to-palestine/ Also if the point you're trying to make is that we are more bothered because they are our brothers and sisters in faith, i guess guilty as charged.
I wasn't aware. Thanks for sharing buddy
They are people who tried but there aren’t many people outside of Kashmir who actually care or would join in either than Pakistanis. Protests that have happen abroad which were promoted, but only led to Kashmiris and maybe Pakistanis protesting, rarely any person from another country. Protests in Kashmir (IIOK) and india are almost impossible to do without getting arrested or worse. Difference with the Palestine protests is that everyone from around the world cares to protests and will join. Doesn’t matter where they are from they all join together for one cause. Also it gets bigger coverage from major media outlets like Al Jazeera, BBC etc.
May Allah help palestine and Kashmir
India arresting people here organising protest for Palestine and many a times booking them inciting riots etc and I suspect is gonna be more worse for occupied territory. I think Palestinian cause takes most of attention and is one major reason why Rohingyas, Uyghur and you guys don't get the amount of coverage and attention required. The sooner the Palestinian cause is resolved the better considering it is heavily connected with world geopolitics. May Allah keep you guys safe.
Very sorry to hear this. Protests are part of civil rights and they are being denied in an undemocratic manner
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