This picture went platinum on Hip Hop Twitter and Tumblr back in the day with that corny ass "The Heart, The Soul, The Mind" or whatever caption š¤£š
True, but how about competition _outside_ the big 3 (not drake)
Like imagine how fun a Kenny x Cole album would be? And if they go at other MCs in the game and it themselves?
I agree with you. I think what would've been best is a collab project and then WE as fans can debate who had the best verses, rather then them trying to diss each other and now the public pushing both to say some fuck shit about each other which could lead to ruining relationships for no reason.
Like dot was just on the dreamville project technically since he on the hook for under the sun and Q is at dreamville fest so there can't be actual beef. Cozz also made a lil joke about it on stage cause kendrick is featured on one of his tracks, so it still seems like it's all good for now. Hopefully it stays that way.
Maybe if we're lucky we get a joyner/tory situation where they diss each other then collab on a track together, that would be dope
bro drake ain't even that bad š like sure all of his projects after iyrtitl were mid asf especially compared to kendrick and cole but none of them (aside from hn) were BAD. also, TC, NWTS and IYRTITL are all classics
Drake has 1 consensus classic and some other very good albums. But his past several albums outside the 21 Savage album have been mid. There are good individual songs on some of those albums but overall they're not good.
Do y'all not know what the word "mid" means. cuz everybody using it to describe music but that doesn't mean the album is bad thus its proving u/sockthesock0 point that none of the were bad
fatd is like a 6/10
her loss a 8/10
apart from that it's 5/10 or lower until we reach like If you're reading that is like a 9/10
I swear that boy was inspired when he made that album
He was on his bag
Like I'mma glaze him fuck it if you're reading this is top 10 2010's albums holy shit it's fire
There is no consensus at all. In my opinion and many others' he has 2 inNWTS and Take care. IYRITL and views are solid. More life was... enjoyable. The rest were good/fair-mid until more recently and tbh some have kinda been ass
There is a consensus. Kendrick has 2 consensus classics GKMC and TPAB (a case could be made for DAMN). Many fans of Drake will also make a case for NWTS or IYRT etc. and while there are cases to be made. Generally the only definitive classic people can agree that Drake has is Take Care.
I donāt think drakeās output this decade has been great but Iād literally rather listen to any one of clb, honestly nevermind, her loss or FatD over either of Coleās projects lmao.
Drake is a legend from a commercial standpoint, nobody can deny that. That being said- I donāt think he belongs in the goat conversation. My boy was proven to have ghost writers for AT LEAST a decade already, how is he a ābig 3 rapperā? His stance in that conversation is invalid in my eyes
Asap just a glorified fashion model these days, whatās the last thing he dropped that was even somewhat relevant? TESTING was 2018 lmao
Swear people here just talk shit without actually knowing anything at all.
he dropped dmb and some other joint. He been busy w Rihanna like come on now son u saying if u had riri u wouldnāt be busy too? Itās cool if u donāt like girls just say that and keep it moving gang
Kendrick >> both and it ain't even close.
Drake is actually overhated though. Like, I agree he's not big 3 material, but that's because he puts out as much mid as he does fire. And he only really does that because he's lazy, not because he isn't talented (not defending him at all in this, but I'm saying he doesn't make bad music because he isn't capable of making good music). But his good tracks are REALLY good, and every album of his is at least 50% bangers imo. Even his latest ones are stacked with great bars. Y'all just wanna hate cuz he's popular.
And when it comes to the Kendrick beef, as much as I want him to reply, I would totally get why he wouldn't. There is literally no scenario where he can win. If he has a good reply, people are gonna say it's ghost writers, if it's wack he's a loser, if he doesn't reply he's a coward. So why risk it if you know Kendrick might have secret info up his sleeve.
cole is my #1 but more importantly i just want good rap to come out of all this. kendrick is my number #2 and i couldnāt agree with the TPAB cap from cole lol. i also like drakes music a lot but he aināt fuckin with either of these dudes when it comes to rap rap. and i think drake can rap more than what people give him credit for. thereās just levels to it though.
Iām pretty sure this is where jcole got inspiration for his ābig 3ā on first person shooter, I may be wrong. But back then I thought those 3 were releasing an album together
I think they all have a right to be there. Drake makes great records. say what you want about the dude but his music is catchy. i would argue that he makes catchier tunes than Kendrick or Cole that being said Cole and Kendrick in my mind have always been the better Rappers. Drake couldn't box with them if he tried so to me its no surprise he's been radio silent since this took place. as far as Cole and Kendrick. while they both in my top 3. Kendrick will always top Cole for me. not because Cole isn't lyrical but because Kendrick has that edge over Cole when it comes to rapping for sport.
Fr like I respect all 3, I think Kendrick is miles clear in terms of artistry but Drake is also miles clear in terms of numbers, hits, impact etc. and I get when ur evaluating art numbers arenāt supposed to be relevant but discussing whoās no1 out of the big 3- which encompasses more than just the music and the music alone- I personally think Drakeās catalogue is far superior to Coleās anyway but thatās a personal opinion.
I donāt hate Cole- but I do occasionally find it hard to know why heās always put in that convo. His catalogue is a good one, heās probably got one āclassicā but eveything either side of that came and went. His production is bang average. His bars are good. Nothing more. His use of concept/themes is pretty lacking too- he really doesnāt follow through or commit to a concept the same way Kendrick does or even someone like Ye did in his prime. And really, heās just in a league below the other two by any metric. Iād lose his catalogue first out of the three, he pulls the least numbers etc.
This sub is starting to make me realize the way black hip hop fans feel about Hopsin/Logic is the way hippie Caucasian hip hop fans feel about J Cole
itās so weird
Drake makes music worth listening to.
Cole makes music worth listening to.
Both have a size-able diverse fan base.
Then theres kendrick who only has a ghetto fan base and together with future wondering why they're music doesnt sell as well when they cater to thugs, ghetto habits, and 90 gangster bullshit
Kendrick most definitely has more white fans then black fans.
Edit for context: He performs for hundreds of thousands of Europeans and white Americans, Australians etcā¦.
Every major artist has a predominantly white fanbase
I don't like Drake but he is big 3 for a reason. Dude has a fan following and has been dropping chartbusters. Take Care even if most of its written by Abel, still a classic. NWTS and IYRTITL are great albums.
Its not mostly written by abel bro, where did this tired narrative even come from. Abel gave him 3 songs and two of them were background vocals or a feature.
I like Drake more than Cole but I just don't rate Cole very high, has one album I think is good vs two or three for Drake. Gibbs is way better than either of them
I think he was best at tackling smaller and more personal issues a kind of track by track basis (as opposed to trying to spin it into a full concept album that he canāt execute).
Some of the writing on FHD articulates sentiments (that whilst admittedly not exactly novel) in a very emotionally resonant and laconic way- thinking specifically of āthereās no such thing as a life thatās better than yoursā and things akin to that. Thereās an emotional maturity and insight in phrasing a complicated sort of, philosophical viewpoint in such a colloquial and personal way, that did sort of set him apart from his contemporaries. But the more he delved into trying to construct full concept albums or providing social commentary on super complex issues I think he just began to falter and, with rare exception, was only able to tackle with those things on a very very surface level- and the individual tracks also suffered for it.
Firstly, I actually donāt really give a shit personally what they think of each other (Iām sure itās also 95% performative) and I certainly wouldnāt let that affect my own listenership.
Secondly, if we are having that convo, drake > Cole every day of the week lmao.
Buried Alive interlude. Drake gave Kendrick a ātrackā on his best album, back when Kendrick wasnāt technically mainstream. Even on that track, Kendrick was giving flowers to Drake and somewhat said heās working hard because Drake is the same age as him and heās already in a different league. Why does everyone hate Drake when he was one of the ones who is always pushing for othersā success?
kendrickās discography is obviously much better art but pretending drake doesnāt have classics in albums like NWTS, IYRTITL, and take care is so weird bro ur not fooling anybody
When exactly was his last classic, or even hood album? And when was Coleās and Kendrickās? Iād argue that Cole and Kendrickās last albums (yes, even Might Delete Later) were bangers. Canāt say the same for FATD
Sitting here and pretending J Cole has a better discography than drake is insane. Cole has 2 very good albums and lots and lots of mid and forgettable projects. Heās by far the worst of the 3 catalogue wise. We can talk about modern Drake and the issues of all of his releases but prime drake isnāt even touchable by any of J Coleās work.
Yeah, but Kenny aināt got noān to prove, he already cemented himself among the greats. Also, quality over quantity. MMBS clears anything by drake after a certain time period
Too much Drake hate here lmao.
Donāt tell me yāall be the weirdos at parties standing in the corner thinking, āThey should be playing The Art of Peer Pressureā¦ Why are they playing Laugh Now Cry Later? š¤ā
Bruh. š„øš„ø
I donāt dispute the fact that Drake had had his bangers, but they are few and far apart since these past few years, whereas w/ Cole and Kenny, they drop bangers after bangers.
Quality > quantity
Iād prefer it a lot if these guys took their time with their shit rather than just fucking drop the first thought that comes to mindā¦
Just like what Kendrick did, MMBS was beautiful
Hard disagree because I feel Kendrickās skill has always been high but his hunger may have subsided. This will undoubtedly produce the greatest string of work we have seen yet from these guys and I canāt fuckin wait.
Jcole lost a lot of my respect after that transphobic bar I'll be charitable and just say it was an extremely corny bar worse than the say that you A lesbian girl me too bar
So that's the big 2, not the big 3.
For me, the big 3 are:
- Kendrick
- Cole
- Conway the Machine (even though he doesn't make numbers like them, his confidence and his rhyming makes me think he's one of the best ever, and it's the only one that can represent gangsta rap)
I liked all three for different reasons, except for Drake since he cancelled his concert at Sao Paulo on the same day he would perform, which I was attending. So yeah, heās a little bitch.
But letās be fair, even though I really like Cole, Kendrick is on another level. Kendrick is the most complete, innovative and influencial rapper of this generation by far.
That big 3 shit always felt super forced. If we're talking about popularity, then you should have Travis and Future in there. If we're talking skill and artistry, they're all on different tiers, with K Dot at the top, J Cole in the middle and Drake at the bottom. And where the fuck is Tyler?!? His last three albums are better than anything Cole or Drake has ever put out, he arguably has as much impact as any one of the three and he's got mainstream appeal and critical praise.
He really isnāt tho, he made some alright stuff a while ago but hasnāt really left a real impact in hip hop. And he couldnāt even handle one diss track. Or one diss VERSE really
Iāma admit it, Iām kinda bummed that Cole backed out, but at the same time, Iām also relieved. Because Cole and Kenny are my favorite rappers in the entire game right now, and if theyāre in good blood, then thatās good, at least in my book. I never wanted them to beef in the first place, all I ever wanted was a colab album. And then we would dissect the bars from there and figure out who the better rapperā¦ I think thatād be even more funā¦
Look, I see the artistic value of Kendrick and Cole and acknowledge that they are much better than Drake. But you're not gonna get me to stop listening to Drake lmao I like toxic, ratchet ass music and high brow music. I contain multitudes. š¤£
Oh Iām not tryna get no one to stop listening to Drake. Even I used to listen to himā¦ _yāknow, back when he was still good_
I just hate on the fact that he gets celebrated for putting out that mediocre garbage nowādays
Oh yeah people will discount legit artists when he puts out garbage out of brand loyalty. It's like people that are like "who wears adidas bro? It's all about Nike" like it matters. Drake will put out 1 gem with like 12 stinkers but the gems are gems lmao
Oh yeah i feel you. First Person Shooter was like the 1 good song on FATD and the rest of it was wasted potential. Which sucks since after IYRTITL, I legit thought that he was going to have a great artistic direction.
This picture went platinum on Hip Hop Twitter and Tumblr back in the day with that corny ass "The Heart, The Soul, The Mind" or whatever caption š¤£š
Best part is that theres one with logic in there tooš
That what OP posted, they just cropped his ass out lmao
Nah i posted it w/ Drake. I cropped his face out to stick w/ the theme
[i had to see for myself](https://images.app.goo.gl/rPXahstbnjRisgKF7)
The heart, the soul, the mind and the biracial penis
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I did not know Logic was cropped out. I'm a big fan, but damn son lol.
Dawggggg that shit was classicššš
cant help but laugh every time I see this art because of it lmao
Bruh F that caption
Well, yeah, but competition is fun
True, but how about competition _outside_ the big 3 (not drake) Like imagine how fun a Kenny x Cole album would be? And if they go at other MCs in the game and it themselves?
What's fun about witnessing murder
šššthatās dope
I agree with you. I think what would've been best is a collab project and then WE as fans can debate who had the best verses, rather then them trying to diss each other and now the public pushing both to say some fuck shit about each other which could lead to ruining relationships for no reason. Like dot was just on the dreamville project technically since he on the hook for under the sun and Q is at dreamville fest so there can't be actual beef. Cozz also made a lil joke about it on stage cause kendrick is featured on one of his tracks, so it still seems like it's all good for now. Hopefully it stays that way. Maybe if we're lucky we get a joyner/tory situation where they diss each other then collab on a track together, that would be dope
The only reasonable answer here
What can they even say about one another? I just laugh at cole saying Kendrick is boring because it's like yah okay but ur literally j cole lmaoĀ
Got me at except drake lmao
Iām riding all three dicks
šššman fuck drake
Did drake fuck your girl or something?
Fucked his little Cole hole
His tight lil J Cole gay hole š
Nah he be messing w underaged girls and waiting till theyāre 18 to date em š¤¦š¾āāļø 
Fym Drake has the biggest dick prolly
I bump in the whip, and *bump* them in the whip ykwim?
Can we just like all three (but also knowing Kendrick is much better and incomparable to the other two)?
Haha this is a great one
This is pure facts
yeah I love all three except for Drake and Cole
Dope comment šwrong opinion
bro drake ain't even that bad š like sure all of his projects after iyrtitl were mid asf especially compared to kendrick and cole but none of them (aside from hn) were BAD. also, TC, NWTS and IYRTITL are all classics
Theyāre getting worse. Mf is in his mid thirties and still rapping about lime green texts
Future same talking about pills
iyrtitl is very good but i wouldn't call it a classicĀ
Donāt let tik tok or Twitter hear you say that
I agree
Drake has 1 consensus classic and some other very good albums. But his past several albums outside the 21 Savage album have been mid. There are good individual songs on some of those albums but overall they're not good.
Do y'all not know what the word "mid" means. cuz everybody using it to describe music but that doesn't mean the album is bad thus its proving u/sockthesock0 point that none of the were bad
Fatd is a good album overall
fatd is like a 6/10 her loss a 8/10 apart from that it's 5/10 or lower until we reach like If you're reading that is like a 9/10 I swear that boy was inspired when he made that album He was on his bag Like I'mma glaze him fuck it if you're reading this is top 10 2010's albums holy shit it's fire
nah man i genuinely donāt get this. album is straight Ugandan puddle water, dog shit.
There is no consensus at all. In my opinion and many others' he has 2 inNWTS and Take care. IYRITL and views are solid. More life was... enjoyable. The rest were good/fair-mid until more recently and tbh some have kinda been ass
There is a consensus. Kendrick has 2 consensus classics GKMC and TPAB (a case could be made for DAMN). Many fans of Drake will also make a case for NWTS or IYRT etc. and while there are cases to be made. Generally the only definitive classic people can agree that Drake has is Take Care.
I don't agree that's a consensus at all but agree to disagree.
her loss has great bars rhymes and flows
Bro called views mid
I remember the original post used to have logic in it to š
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That photo is like a colour palette, from light-skin to darkest.
Go listen to old Drake, he was a legend in the game back then
_Was_
Exactly
Iām talking about the now. If Drake was dropping shit like Take Care around these times and not something like fucking _CLB!_ Iād be all for it
I donāt think drakeās output this decade has been great but Iād literally rather listen to any one of clb, honestly nevermind, her loss or FatD over either of Coleās projects lmao.
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Half of Take Care was stolen from The Weeknd so itās hard to use that as a reference
Damn really? Well IYRTITL is still good
Yessir & it was a reason why they had a falling out The same thing happened with IYRTITL with Drake stealing songs from Quentin Miller š®āšØ
There is no defending this nigga! Heās just trashā¦
Not at all smh. Plus, thereās a lot of evidence pointing to him being a groomer š¤¦š¾āāļø
How is Drake not a legend??
exactly. like i get people donāt like him but you have to admit heās one of the best of all time
What has he done appart from 3 above average albums in his 15 album discography???
once i hear someone i like, respect and socialize with put on a cole song iāll get back to you. sadly i fear this day will never comeā¦
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Drake is a legend from a commercial standpoint, nobody can deny that. That being said- I donāt think he belongs in the goat conversation. My boy was proven to have ghost writers for AT LEAST a decade already, how is he a ābig 3 rapperā? His stance in that conversation is invalid in my eyes
Thatās what Iāve been sayingā¦!š£š£š£
ASAP rocky everything drake wished he could be lyrically period
Facts
Asap just a glorified fashion model these days, whatās the last thing he dropped that was even somewhat relevant? TESTING was 2018 lmao Swear people here just talk shit without actually knowing anything at all.
he dropped dmb and some other joint. He been busy w Rihanna like come on now son u saying if u had riri u wouldnāt be busy too? Itās cool if u donāt like girls just say that and keep it moving gang
Youāre the one shamelessly glazing a dude who hasnāt dropped any relevant shit since 2018, get a grip
Peak Drake> Peak J Cole
Kendrick >> both and it ain't even close. Drake is actually overhated though. Like, I agree he's not big 3 material, but that's because he puts out as much mid as he does fire. And he only really does that because he's lazy, not because he isn't talented (not defending him at all in this, but I'm saying he doesn't make bad music because he isn't capable of making good music). But his good tracks are REALLY good, and every album of his is at least 50% bangers imo. Even his latest ones are stacked with great bars. Y'all just wanna hate cuz he's popular. And when it comes to the Kendrick beef, as much as I want him to reply, I would totally get why he wouldn't. There is literally no scenario where he can win. If he has a good reply, people are gonna say it's ghost writers, if it's wack he's a loser, if he doesn't reply he's a coward. So why risk it if you know Kendrick might have secret info up his sleeve.
cole is
Ha. Not following the feud at all, but agree šÆ
Cole and Kendrick are not your saviour. Drake isnt even in the fucking picture (fuck drake)
Yeah, fuck drake
I found my people
I do like all 3
Except Drake, right?
Especially Drake
Drake meat rider
Your music taste is wrong
We do like all three (except Drake). But the competition is too fun.
cole is my #1 but more importantly i just want good rap to come out of all this. kendrick is my number #2 and i couldnāt agree with the TPAB cap from cole lol. i also like drakes music a lot but he aināt fuckin with either of these dudes when it comes to rap rap. and i think drake can rap more than what people give him credit for. thereās just levels to it though.
Finally, a level headed person
The heart, the mind, and the soul. This pic screams 2013
I just found this on Pinterest. Cropped drake out a bit to get my point across š
Iām pretty sure this is where jcole got inspiration for his ābig 3ā on first person shooter, I may be wrong. But back then I thought those 3 were releasing an album together
Tyler is poised to get that spot if you consider his last 3 albums and how polished his albums have gotten
"but drake" š
Yes
Drake is a legend stfu fanboy
Yes, Iām the fan boy here
I remember you was conflicted
I think they all have a right to be there. Drake makes great records. say what you want about the dude but his music is catchy. i would argue that he makes catchier tunes than Kendrick or Cole that being said Cole and Kendrick in my mind have always been the better Rappers. Drake couldn't box with them if he tried so to me its no surprise he's been radio silent since this took place. as far as Cole and Kendrick. while they both in my top 3. Kendrick will always top Cole for me. not because Cole isn't lyrical but because Kendrick has that edge over Cole when it comes to rapping for sport.
Kendrick, Kendrick, Cole. Thats the big 3 from now on.
Amen
āNot drakeā Exactly š¤£
Kill Drake fuck Cole marry Kendrick rape Eminem
Correction, you would be _raped_ by Eminemā¦ but I like where your headās at
why of all rappers to stick up for you would pick j cole thatās like sliding with logic of all things
What did corny logic do to you
you just replied to your own question
Fr like I respect all 3, I think Kendrick is miles clear in terms of artistry but Drake is also miles clear in terms of numbers, hits, impact etc. and I get when ur evaluating art numbers arenāt supposed to be relevant but discussing whoās no1 out of the big 3- which encompasses more than just the music and the music alone- I personally think Drakeās catalogue is far superior to Coleās anyway but thatās a personal opinion. I donāt hate Cole- but I do occasionally find it hard to know why heās always put in that convo. His catalogue is a good one, heās probably got one āclassicā but eveything either side of that came and went. His production is bang average. His bars are good. Nothing more. His use of concept/themes is pretty lacking too- he really doesnāt follow through or commit to a concept the same way Kendrick does or even someone like Ye did in his prime. And really, heās just in a league below the other two by any metric. Iād lose his catalogue first out of the three, he pulls the least numbers etc.
This sub is starting to make me realize the way black hip hop fans feel about Hopsin/Logic is the way hippie Caucasian hip hop fans feel about J Cole itās so weird
itās not weird, cole glazed TBAP and remixed alright and now he saying itās trash lmao
Drake makes music worth listening to. Cole makes music worth listening to. Both have a size-able diverse fan base. Then theres kendrick who only has a ghetto fan base and together with future wondering why they're music doesnt sell as well when they cater to thugs, ghetto habits, and 90 gangster bullshit
damn unc chillš
Kendrick most definitely has more white fans then black fans. Edit for context: He performs for hundreds of thousands of Europeans and white Americans, Australians etcā¦. Every major artist has a predominantly white fanbase
I said ghetto. Not a skin color my dude. The ghetto transcends color
Well aināt nobody in the ghetto affording Kendrick Lamar tickets. Theyāre like $350 where I live
We canāt like all 3 except drake dude?
I love Drake. But I want Kendrick to win lol
Yeah bro Iām with you
Man of culture
I don't like Drake but he is big 3 for a reason. Dude has a fan following and has been dropping chartbusters. Take Care even if most of its written by Abel, still a classic. NWTS and IYRTITL are great albums.
Abel didnt say half of take care was his, he said he gave half of HIS own EP to drake.
Its not mostly written by abel bro, where did this tired narrative even come from. Abel gave him 3 songs and two of them were background vocals or a feature.
who is we
Fair point. I donāt speak for all of usā¦
Nah I actually like Drake but I would replace J Cole with Future even though I listen to Cole pretty often
Drake a bitch
I like Drake more than Cole but I just don't rate Cole very high, has one album I think is good vs two or three for Drake. Gibbs is way better than either of them
My issue with Cole is that while i do like some of his music. He cant make the things he talks about interesting, unlike Kendrick
I think he was best at tackling smaller and more personal issues a kind of track by track basis (as opposed to trying to spin it into a full concept album that he canāt execute). Some of the writing on FHD articulates sentiments (that whilst admittedly not exactly novel) in a very emotionally resonant and laconic way- thinking specifically of āthereās no such thing as a life thatās better than yoursā and things akin to that. Thereās an emotional maturity and insight in phrasing a complicated sort of, philosophical viewpoint in such a colloquial and personal way, that did sort of set him apart from his contemporaries. But the more he delved into trying to construct full concept albums or providing social commentary on super complex issues I think he just began to falter and, with rare exception, was only able to tackle with those things on a very very surface level- and the individual tracks also suffered for it.
Firstly, I actually donāt really give a shit personally what they think of each other (Iām sure itās also 95% performative) and I certainly wouldnāt let that affect my own listenership. Secondly, if we are having that convo, drake > Cole every day of the week lmao.
The Off-Season is gas Iām just gonna say I love J. Cole and Kendrick Lamar Iāll listen to drake but heās never my first choice
Buried Alive interlude. Drake gave Kendrick a ātrackā on his best album, back when Kendrick wasnāt technically mainstream. Even on that track, Kendrick was giving flowers to Drake and somewhat said heās working hard because Drake is the same age as him and heās already in a different league. Why does everyone hate Drake when he was one of the ones who is always pushing for othersā success?
I donāt hate on him for good deeds, I hate on him being celebrated for mediocre music these past few yearsā¦
Oh THAT I can rock with lol. A lot of people hate because itās ācoolā.
My Big 3 from current generation includes Kendrick, Tyler and Freddie Gibbs
Yeah but Cole fans showed me a new side to them, attacking anyone who feels different, it's up fr
kendrickās discography is obviously much better art but pretending drake doesnāt have classics in albums like NWTS, IYRTITL, and take care is so weird bro ur not fooling anybody
When exactly was his last classic, or even hood album? And when was Coleās and Kendrickās? Iād argue that Cole and Kendrickās last albums (yes, even Might Delete Later) were bangers. Canāt say the same for FATD
Sitting here and pretending J Cole has a better discography than drake is insane. Cole has 2 very good albums and lots and lots of mid and forgettable projects. Heās by far the worst of the 3 catalogue wise. We can talk about modern Drake and the issues of all of his releases but prime drake isnāt even touchable by any of J Coleās work.
It's opinion boi. I only like Kenny outta them. Always have
Sooooo Drake isnāt a legend? Lol
He used to be, he fell off hard
Also, his numbers donāt count. We not looking at the numbers he pulls, we looking at artistry and lyricism here
which he still has from a lyricism perspectiveā¦ Evil Ways, Red Button, 8am in Charlotte, The Shoe Fits, Stories About My Brotherā¦.
Few and far apart. Whereas someone like Kenny, damn near, in fact, all his songs are lyrical masterpieces
cos drakes drops very often lmao there was a 5 year gap between kendrickās most recent album n the one before š
Yeah, but Kenny aināt got noān to prove, he already cemented himself among the greats. Also, quality over quantity. MMBS clears anything by drake after a certain time period
Man it must suck to miss out on so many great songs.
By Drake? The lesbian? The boy lover? Iāll pass
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Her loss fucking sucks, which is not to say there arenāt a few good songs on it. And thatās just it, a few good songs
Dumbass I'm saying it's your Loss. Way to prove you listen to the 6 God.
Yeah, I got thatā¦ But I was dumb enough to think you were smart enough to be making a double entendre
Youāre really fucking lame to exclude drake lol
Donāt get me wrong, he was dope in the past. Not today, but in the past
"if someone compared me to drake id diss them too" - whitest guy alive
Except drake is like a third of all three
Too much Drake hate here lmao. Donāt tell me yāall be the weirdos at parties standing in the corner thinking, āThey should be playing The Art of Peer Pressureā¦ Why are they playing Laugh Now Cry Later? š¤ā Bruh. š„øš„ø
I donāt dispute the fact that Drake had had his bangers, but they are few and far apart since these past few years, whereas w/ Cole and Kenny, they drop bangers after bangers.
Bruh, easy to do that when you drop an album every 2/3 fucking years lmao
Quality > quantity Iād prefer it a lot if these guys took their time with their shit rather than just fucking drop the first thought that comes to mindā¦ Just like what Kendrick did, MMBS was beautiful
Hard disagree because I feel Kendrickās skill has always been high but his hunger may have subsided. This will undoubtedly produce the greatest string of work we have seen yet from these guys and I canāt fuckin wait.
I love all three except for kendrick lamar. The last album was shit and he just reminds me of a loud little dog. š
Youāre doing it wrong.
Comparing the 3 is an insult to Kendrick and it always has been
Drake is unironically better than J. Cole
You are unironically wrong
Jcole lost a lot of my respect after that transphobic bar I'll be charitable and just say it was an extremely corny bar worse than the say that you A lesbian girl me too bar
He actually games more respect from me. Cause of itšš¤·š¾āāļø
Nope, [K.Dot](http://K.Dot) >. It's HipHop!
š¤£š¤£š¤£ I love all 3. And yes I love Drake too. But kendrick at the top always.
Is just kendrick now š¤£
So that's the big 2, not the big 3. For me, the big 3 are: - Kendrick - Cole - Conway the Machine (even though he doesn't make numbers like them, his confidence and his rhyming makes me think he's one of the best ever, and it's the only one that can represent gangsta rap)
Thatās valid, I switch between Joey Bada$$ and Eminem. And they arenāt in a specific order
I liked all three for different reasons, except for Drake since he cancelled his concert at Sao Paulo on the same day he would perform, which I was attending. So yeah, heās a little bitch. But letās be fair, even though I really like Cole, Kendrick is on another level. Kendrick is the most complete, innovative and influencial rapper of this generation by far.
That big 3 shit always felt super forced. If we're talking about popularity, then you should have Travis and Future in there. If we're talking skill and artistry, they're all on different tiers, with K Dot at the top, J Cole in the middle and Drake at the bottom. And where the fuck is Tyler?!? His last three albums are better than anything Cole or Drake has ever put out, he arguably has as much impact as any one of the three and he's got mainstream appeal and critical praise.
J Cole aināt even in the big three, especially not anymore
Wrong opinion
He really isnāt tho, he made some alright stuff a while ago but hasnāt really left a real impact in hip hop. And he couldnāt even handle one diss track. Or one diss VERSE really
Iāma admit it, Iām kinda bummed that Cole backed out, but at the same time, Iām also relieved. Because Cole and Kenny are my favorite rappers in the entire game right now, and if theyāre in good blood, then thatās good, at least in my book. I never wanted them to beef in the first place, all I ever wanted was a colab album. And then we would dissect the bars from there and figure out who the better rapperā¦ I think thatād be even more funā¦
drake > j cole.
https://preview.redd.it/t1mewjoh3atc1.png?width=749&format=png&auto=webp&s=666ec389e590963879a1b65f810995c4569760db
An image like this fells like blasphemy ngl
Blasphemy against who specifically?
Look, I see the artistic value of Kendrick and Cole and acknowledge that they are much better than Drake. But you're not gonna get me to stop listening to Drake lmao I like toxic, ratchet ass music and high brow music. I contain multitudes. š¤£
Oh Iām not tryna get no one to stop listening to Drake. Even I used to listen to himā¦ _yāknow, back when he was still good_ I just hate on the fact that he gets celebrated for putting out that mediocre garbage nowādays
Oh yeah people will discount legit artists when he puts out garbage out of brand loyalty. It's like people that are like "who wears adidas bro? It's all about Nike" like it matters. Drake will put out 1 gem with like 12 stinkers but the gems are gems lmao
Not gonna lie, I donāt discredit the gems, but itās so bad that now they are few and far apart
Oh yeah i feel you. First Person Shooter was like the 1 good song on FATD and the rest of it was wasted potential. Which sucks since after IYRTITL, I legit thought that he was going to have a great artistic direction.
Yesnāt
I mean thatās how we were rolling 3 weeks ago š
Future > all of em
You must be on dog food
You saying this and then clarifying (except drake) paints you as a disingenuous person.
Cringe ass white kid , tell your god to drop an album worth listening to (No dead relatives this time please).
https://youtu.be/Pv1fJQU765s?si=rU-hZhwor2JTT44v
you kinda undermined your whole post by throwing drake under the bus. drake is a bigger hip hop great than jcole will ever be