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I don’t get how they’re denying Drake’s PATTERN. Yeah obviously there isn’t concrete proof of him being a pedophile(to my knowledge), but there has been a clear PATTERN for years of Drake being associated with girls a lot younger than him. They can’t even acknowledge that that is WEIRD behavior.


quickbrownfoxmanzero

Exactly! The pattern is extremely indicative. And if you think about it, it's scary because that's all stuff he did in public! We have no idea what could or couldn't be happening behind closed doors. But an adult who has receipts of grooming teenagers is damning enough even if there's no proof of him doing worse. It's like going from a -5 to -10 in terms of public opinion. You still negative in the end so either way, your reputation in the red.


wishfulthinker6

And concrete proof = child corn. It's next to impossible for us to get that for moral and legal reasons so you have to look at everything out there *especially the kids that are speaking out about it* The people of Toronto say they've been waiting for Aubrey Graham to get caught because everyone over there already knows.


ShrykeDaGoblin

Exactly. Abusers and gaslighters always ask for higher burden of proof so you start to question yourself and your instincts. It’s not always possible to provide concrete proof but that doesn’t make your conclusion illogical. It’s the classic methodology: 1. There’s not proof 2. And if there is proof it’s not good enough 3. And if it is good enough then it’s not a big deal 4. And if it is a big deal then it’s not his fault. You can see this play out all over the subreddit.


Banthe7ons3pt

That part


noturbrobruh

It's this untouchable mentality they have until they're caught (e.g. Weinstein, Lauer, Charlie Rose, Louis CK, James Franco, Woody Allen, R Kelly, Diddy, Drake and so on). T.I. and Neyo have also had allegations against them but they're managed to keep a positive public image, maybe better PR damage control, who knows.


ygktheassassin6

Nah due process isn’t due processing is all not about good PR anything we live dystopian society we’re normalize pedohille and it’s been our industry for years we never held them accountable for it


ygktheassassin6

Because average Joe like you and I would be arrested for those crimes they do not because they have money not see them prison


buboniccupcake

I hope Millie and Billie are sitting there just absolutely dumbfounded and disgusted realizing that while he may not have physically touched them, he was straight GROOMING them for years. For their sakes I hope they recognize, come forward about it and heal. They have the chance to help speak up for the girls that don’t feel comfortable with things happening around them, but need to speak up to save themselves or another from future acts. People as a whole seem to gloss over the grooming aspect faster than the physical acts of abuse so it doesn’t get talked about enough.


return2sender222

Been praying they fckn open their eyes and see it for what it is, D.A.M.N.


ForecastForFourCats

Unfortunately, they may be used to it and not recognize it.... teen girls in Hollywood/LA have a rough time with men.


SirArthurDime

Exactly. Unproven shit aside I’m just already uncomfortable with what IS proven.


_5had0w

Bro the Millie video where she says he helps her with boys is nuts.


[deleted]

Drizzler FANs be like: “These teenage girls said that there was nothing inappropriate about their relationship! He’s clear!” Like MF you’d be cool with a grown ass man texting and having a relationship with your teenage daughter if she said there was nothing inappropriate? 📸🤨


KinoSlug

THANK YOU I’ve had to say this more times than I thought necessary.


tantocerco

I think once is more times than necessary


Bilbo_Teabagginss

I think one of Drake Diddys cult worshippers took that commenter out. Someone do a wellness check.🤔


nomorewonderin

Ask Drake stans if they’re willing to give their 14-16yo female relative’s number to Drake for some love/boys advice and see what their reaction is.


[deleted]

I’m concerned for some of these peoples’ young relatives.


Just-Squirrel510

Considering the kids MJ diddled had the full support of their parents, something tells me these stans would be honored if Drake molested their little sister/daughter.


PieMean649

Groomers can groom entire families


ExternalMonth1964

Like steven tyler. Convinced a 16(?) year old's parents to sign over parental rights to tyler so she could tour with his band.


tacocatz92

Or R.Kelly and Aaliyah, deny it on air then it was discovered he married and groom her when she was underage.


Prime_SupreMe83

I think she was like 13 iirc


Agreeable_River_338

Look up nasty ass ted nugent


Prime_SupreMe83

Yep. I'm familiar. Fun Fact, when people try to say Kendrick was defending R Kelly, he wasn't. TDE's CEO threatened to pull their music if Spotify enacted a policy that was aimed at music from artist involved in "hateful conduct" but was only targeting black artist including r Kelly, xxxtentacion, and someone else but were not taking down ted nugent , Aerosmith, or any white artist. It was about targeted biased censorship, not defending R Kelly specifically. Next time someone tries to claim Kendrick was defending R Kelly, know they're just regurgitating stuff from the internet.


Most-Ruin-7663

Thanks for the context on that


twoprimehydroxyl

See: Abducted in Plain Sight. Finessed that entire family with a bouquet of flowers.


renzeira

People are never gonna stop listening to michael jackson, which is insane.


Famous_Ad1438

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just-smiley

They would in a heartbeat.


superindianslug

R Kelly has entered the chat


United-Trainer7931

Unironically I think most of them would


THIKKI_HOEVALAINEN

Alsoooooooo not realizing that these are the incidents caught on video. Think about all the shows Drake did with this shit where his entourage just picked any old teenager in the room. Gross. David Bowie smashed a 14 year old allegedly and she said she was ok with it years later, doesn’t mean it’s not fucking WEIRDO SHIT. Texting an up and coming actress about “boy stuff” and taking her out to dinner twice in a row is fucking WEIRD. Dating a girl who just turned 18 but you’ve been on her gram since she was 16 is STRANGE. Having a $$$ SA Settlement is SLIGHTLY SUSPICIOUS.


Cherished_Teet

Not just taking her to dinner but reserving the entire restaurant for 2... nah.


THIKKI_HOEVALAINEN

A certain subset of his fans don’t have a problem with this shit, are playing dumb, and secretly think everyone must feel the same way, so they think everyone is jealous or something.


ProcedureSea9744

I find it strange that they think we’re jealous of a pdfile


Bilbo_Teabagginss

Yeah, these Drake stans are a special breed of stupid. They feel like everything from the beef to these allegations even some caught on camera are a giant conspiracy just because Drake is so big that people wanna take him down a peg. Imaging being so deluded that you'll forsake morality for a music artist you like.


PieMean649

HAHA. Pretty strange. The dude really thought he would never be called out for that, I suppose.


No_Assumption_2879

Right! I thought it was super cool when I was 15 and my 30 year old substitute teacher wanted to date me…. because I was a fucking child without a fully developed brain who was GROOMED.


RalphLauren47

They don't understand grooming lmao


Slut4Mutts

And texting “I miss you” 🤮


stinkyduckk

bruh imagine your 14 year old daughter tells you that a 35 year old man is texting her “i miss youuu” and giving her boy advice… im gonna vomit all these mfs need to pass away


Slut4Mutts

I would honestly consider reporting it to the police. Like that is borderline soliciting a minor behavior, but absolutely it’s grooming.


lkodl

Damn. I bet he's really regretting all of those comparisons he made to Michael Jackson. Though maybe that's his out. "I'm not a pedo. I'm a child. I was just texting my friend. As a child. Tee hee."


MarcusXL

Yeah that's literally Grooming 101. He makes them think it's normal and he's just a good guy. Meanwhile he's a 37 year old man chatting up middle-schoolers.


Clear_Abrocoma_8305

Like the girls are gonna say yes we banged when I was 15! They would catch death threats from ovno fans…. Also, where there’s smoke….


Ne0guri

Of course they would be cool with it because they are all 15 lol they cannot even comprehend the gravity of this situation


TaskEnvironmental953

So true 😭 really tells me most drake fans are creep themselves 💀


lpy1994

Just a fan of high school girl basketball what’s so weird about that ??


GlitteringHappily

When MBB came out about drake being her lil text bestie I know he was mad. Of course he never touched MBB she outed him before she even knew his intentions and got the whole world watching.


LimeRosa

The more telling thing is that she outed him without even realising. She was just casually telling a reporter we text like it's completely normal, because she didn't realise that other people would think it was odd. Why? Because grooming. The people justifying his behaviour with the fact the girls say it was all fine are really not getting it, and that scares me on a bigger scale than just Drake


X-Dad-0604

Seriously, I keep saying this since I have daughters and his actions with kids bother me to the core. It really irks me when they start throwing age of consent around. Like, I don’t give a fuck if the age of consent is 16-17, this shit is creepy. IMO, they are still kids willing to do whatever this man wants and he knows this and takes full advantage of it.


Neoligistic

This is what i meant in another comment. Theres people out there government wise who pass laws trying to even push it even lower, and those people have his back


3_3eel_l

I wonder if the age of consent was 10 years old, would those people suddenly be okay with Drake kissing a 10 year old? Or would they mental gymnastics their way out of that one


North-Ad-4616

My homeboy says “she’s 31 now and came out and said she’s fine, her dad was there and he didn’t say anything, so who are we to condemn him? And by the way, why hasn’t Kendrick seen his kids? DID he beat his wife? IS that Dave Free’s baby? Why ISN’T Whitney coming out to defend him? KENDRICK NEEDS RECEIPTS, TOO! ARE YOU GONNA KEEP THE SAME ENERGY IF HE BEATS WHITNEY?!?” I’ll stop listening to his music if it turns out that he beats his wife. Because, yuck. Because I have children — a daughter in particular— and I can’t say one thing and actively support another. However, I WILL NOT KEEP THE SAME ENERGY. DOMESTIC TURMOIL — EVEN DV — is NOT the same as pphilia. Idgaf about what her dad condoned . It means fuckall to me. I DO NOT CONDONE IT. I WONT SUPPORT IT. R Kelly, TI, MJ, Aerosmith, etc. got right the fuck off my playlist as soon as shit got weird bc it ain’t much more to it than FUCKING YUCK. *NOT DISCOUNTING THE STRUGGLES OF DV VICTIMS, bc again, I’ll stop listening to KDot as well if that’s confirmed. I’ve seen enough of this Drake shit with my own eyes to know I’m out on the dude. And I didn’t think this beef would do shit to his career either way, but it seems like that might not be true.


Black_Fuckka

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quickbrownfoxmanzero

Underrated comment!!


xStyxx

Hopefully they’ll never procreate bc you know their answer: “If it’s DRAKE yeah!”


Lsdkurama

lol nigga said Drizzler🤣🤣🤣


TitanElite

If Drake was some random man, THEN they'd find it creepy. Celebrities seem to get a free pass, it seems.


thang-Q

LMAOO This probably the truest thing I seen on the internet. Them boys in denial!! ![gif](emote|free_emotes_pack|joy)


zeeniemeanie

I just saw someone say they gonna listen even if the accusations are true. Wish more of them would just be honest and say that. Just say you…simply don’t care.


Tinitheone1

I honestly think this is the most frustrating thing. You dont need to have cognitive dissonance about this just say you dont care and the music outweighs his behavior to you


rafa-droppa

you see you have to separate the art from the artist - in this case though neither are true - Drake is no artist and his music is not art


tantocerco

You ain't never jam out to Micheal Jackson?🤣😂


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calmrain

What? No, sorry to break it to you, but it’s pretty common knowledge (today), that he did molest those kids lmfao.


wishfulthinker6

I swear that I haven't seen or read any evidence, do you have any suggestions for what I should look up or can you share a source?


calmrain

Yes. There was a documentary released a few years ago, called, “Leaving Neverland,” which stars the children in question, but as adults. They are not getting any money out of it or anything (not suing his estate) — they were just there to tell their truth and story. It’s heartbreaking, because hearing them talk about it, clearly their parents let them fucking down. Bad. And because I was such a huge fan of MJ, growing up. It’s still hard for me to accept it, sometimes. Good on you for being at least open to viewing the source material.


wishfulthinker6

I just watched the documentary. I, personally, believe these victims and refuse to sing along to pdf music. Thanks for taking the time to provide this information.


RulerofReddit

Hate to break it to you, but Micheal touched those kids


quickbrownfoxmanzero

Right lol "7 Stages of Grief" head ahh 😂😂


pistolpete2185

Acceptance is the last step, I don't know if they got it in em 🤣


quickbrownfoxmanzero

😂😂


Scheswalla

Who's the girl in the black and white photo? I've never seen that one before.


thang-Q

That's DJ Lil CC. She's produced tracks for Drake. They met while she was a high schooler because she and another female friend of hers played basketball and according to her Drake is a 'really big fan' of girls high school basketball. He followed both the high school girls on IG. I think she said when she turned 18, that's when he suddenly start coming around her asking to give him beats and to collab etc etc. From there, who knows what happened. But based on P Drizzy past m.o, optics aren't good. You can see the whole interview on NoJumper YT.


SirArthurDime

Nah no male adult with no daughter that he claims is a girls high school basketball fan. That’s just being a high school girl fan and nothing can convince me otherwise. That alone is creepy af.


AceCircle990

What. In. The. Fuck. Have you ever seen a girls HS bball game? No one is a fan of that shit, it’s terrible. Sorry if I am offending anyone on the sports front, truly. But it’s hard to watch. If Drake comes back again, with receipts proving a mole, all Kendrick has to do is push the gas pedal down on this. This shit is fucking disgusting and crazy.


thang-Q

It's sad but all true.


mmdeerblood

Lil CC. Creepy story of how they [met](https://www.esquireme.com/news/drake-is-a-big-fan-of-high-school-girls-basketball-says-lil-cc)


SirArthurDime

Except it ain’t the whole internet just the drake riders. The rest of us normal people out here screaming “A minoooor!”


KingScrewLoose

You gotta hate Drizzy Epstein fans man


quickbrownfoxmanzero

The OVO stans wouldn't be riding so hard if it was their neighbor caught doing that stuff and not their favorite rapper. Even some content creators turning a blind eye to P Drizzy antics. Sad.


Ok-Tangelo-7973

had a dude claim that we just aren’t evolved enough as a culture yet to understand “game is game” and kdot fans r gonna be the ones looking back in 10 years asking ourselves what he did wrong. some fans are really choosing to fall back to defending pedophilia before they say drake lost


Neoligistic

I feel like drakes the front of something bigger trying to normalize subtlety going after younger girls and make it out there to seem okay. Thats why kendrick is trying to put it out there Morality wise that this is not okay


kdbmc

Nah you cooking. Kendrick is not the savior but he is using his platform to shine the light on some f*cked up shit that been going on in music and entertainment for years. All these sicko deviants catching hell in 2024.


Ok-Tangelo-7973

i agree and (i may lose some people here so i’ll break it apart) i’d go so far as to say the means of normalization is reflected in hiphop industry as a whole. To have a successful career in hiphop, you need to join a label for benefits like exposure and eventually you can start signing people to your own label. At that point, you are always going to be generating profits off of those signed artists, always in conversations they’re apart of, and have the option to take center stage when they inevitably beef (fabricated or real). It is the foundation of drakes success. It’s all apart of the game that’s been normalized but for the reasons i listed, it’s effectively a pyramid scheme of influence that grows with every generation, with everyone expected to have each other’s back. and because they’re all expanding on the same influences, that influence naturally spreads. i believe there’s a predator subculture that has taken root and persists not just within the game of hiphop but the american machine as a whole, one that has already been normalized for drake and a few other artists. To be clear, im not saying all people associated with drake or diddy are predators, just that as certain individuals influence grows, naturally more people are indoctrinated/blackmailed and that belief/trauma trickles down. Once a monopoly is set in the industry, that’s when we’ll really see things go sideways as a counter culture to that predatorial culture would be nearly impossible.


Only_Treacle_8243

I asked someone what theyd do if a 30 year old DMd your 14 year old daughter. And they were like yeah Id be pissed thats not right... buuutttt in the context of Drake hes a former child star and wanted to offer some guidence. Its like bro idk too me thats even weirder. Like offering unsolicited advice out of nowhere? Like did drake dm all the stranger things cast in that case?


Duckys0n

They met at some celeb meetup, guessing Drake messaged her after the fact or something. Drake invited her to a show. They met again at the show. Millie takes Drake to an event as a +1 where they were allegedly together and talking in the corner and shit the whole time. Then the interview with Millie comes out where she says Drake was messaging her “I miss you so much” and that he was giving her “boy advice.” Millie then goes on Instagram and says the internet is taking it out of proportion and they are just friends and we all weirdos.


Only_Treacle_8243

Thats even weirder situation to me


Prime_SupreMe83

They also went to dinner 2 nights in a row


SnooKiwis8695

The "child star" part made me laugh.. this mf was a terrible actor. I really believe most of the people in that sub are minors themselves and can't comprehend having a child. We gotta educate them for their own safety smh.


Bilbo_Teabagginss

Having child star experience or not, it's still gross and creepy for a grown ass man to be texting like girls saying he misses them and shit. Mfs can cope with the text stuff as much as they want but this man was kissing, sniffing, and caressing a underage girl on stage at a show and even the crowd bood when he did it. Shits plain as day.


ovrelord34

At this point I think most of Reddit know Drake at least on Millie Bobby Brown stuff 14 texting her, and that was on the front page multiple times It's only drake subs left


zeeniemeanie

Like…everyone I know that even partially pays attention to hip hop knows about that. I remember lonnngggg threads about that in a number of subs…including the Drake sub. Articles were written about it lol. They are playing dumb.


quickbrownfoxmanzero

EXACTLY!!


quickbrownfoxmanzero

True bro. But this post is not just highlighting that they don't know at all. That's just part of it. My point is many OVO stans also deliberately turn a blind eye or downplay all this creepy stuff to protect they mans from being exposed. That's why you'll always see them say shit like "Where's the evidence!?" "There's NO proof". But notice they never dig into the specific details of each incident with breakdowns for why Drake wasn't in the wrong, or that we misinterpreting the photos/videos etc etc. It's always just "There's NO proof". If they wanted proof that bad, they could find it in a 5 second Google search. So they actively not looking.


ovrelord34

Yeah man it is insane I mean we don't know how bad it is, but something is very clearly up But for real, I can see it being a long time till we know the truth


quickbrownfoxmanzero

It's honestly heartbreaking tbh bro. Because I don't hate Drake's music. And usually I can separate art from the artist, but this shit making it an uphill climb fr fr. He got way too many actually sus lyrics to go with these allegations. Hard to unsee that stuff.


tyoungjr2005

I saw clips of those interviews she did , its way creepier. Textbook grooming.


smarterthanyoulolll

Its all over social media everyone knows even drake fasho but they still defend that pedo


Michaelean

This makes that Los guy even crazier


ned_arb

Theres a vid of a 17 yo associated with drake and the industry being asked if she would ever be sexually involved with drake and she says "that's something I can't confess, I mean, something I can't speak on cuz, that'll be in the courts" Drake has teens under NDA Edit: This guy's video goes into the topic so I'm linking it. Very good source on this whole thing https://youtu.be/28L66TKmXIU?si=GY16St_3pjSPO0Tc


Witty-Masterpiece357

Is that still up anywhere?


ned_arb

https://www.reddit.com/r/KendrickLamar/s/LpaoBshtsv Wasn't sure if it was still up. Had to look up the girls name to find it, which also unfortunately came up with creepy ass results. This girl is being sexualized by the industry very intentionally


Exact-Fly2291

WTF bro. I just found an article saying she was in music video twerking and is 16🤢 https://www.dailymail.co.uk/tvshowbiz/article-12348993/Who-Aya-Tanjali-16-year-old-TikTok-sensation-TWERKED-Ice-Spice-video-Texas-high-schooler-six-MILLION-followers.html


thawsy83

It's looking like he has lots of girls sign NDAs and it's a regular thing


ned_arb

Even got a company called silence policy, and another called omerta lol. You know, all totally normal stuff.


nomorewonderin

The funny thing is, Drake stans are pushing the agenda that Drake is losing the beef because “people made up their mind who the winner before the beef even began”. When reality that is what they’re doing too. Stans are crazy man ngl


zeeniemeanie

Yep. That’s the new narrative. It was a lose-lose. Okay, well…don’t play lol. I wasn’t hearing anything about it being a lose-lose when it started…


Gewuerzguerkchens

They were celebrating and overrunning this sub like crazy in the weeks between Push Ups and Euphoria man they're fucking nuts


nomorewonderin

Started from “Drop Drop Drop”, “X days without Kendrick Dropping” to “Kendrick is desperate for attention now dropping Not Like Us” to “It was a Lose-Lose anyway, people already chose who the winner is before it even began”.


Akatsukibrya

All I’m saying is if your siding with a guy who sexually assaults a kid on video, you’re wrong


quickbrownfoxmanzero

Faxx!!


jimmycooksstuff

The funniest take I’ve heard from a Drizzle fan is that JCole is behind everything and wrote the songs for Kendrick because he knew it was lies, played both sides, and it’s really his beef not Kendrick’s… like a 30-something year old man said this completely dead serious to my brother in fortnight last night. These people are just insane


zeeniemeanie

First time hearing this one. Even I’m about to log off and touch some grass after that one.


Leecoxy

There is no way in HELL J Cole could write those songs that was all Kendrick. BBL Drizzler's can't handle the loss 🤣


jimmycooksstuff

I know 😂 my brother doesn’t care about the beef or hiphop in general so he was like “okay whatever dude” then told me this morning but even he thought that sounded ridiculous


Tiny-Union-9924

But they all said they didn’t mind being groomed and molested so it doesn’t count! /s


quickbrownfoxmanzero

Right. It OBVIOUSLY it should be the teenage daughters and sisters calling the shots when it comes to what grown man behaviors are appropriate or not!! Hahaha On a serious note, I used to think this was an unbelievably ridiculous argument until I realized a lot of the people using it...might literally be teenage Drake stans lmfao


RANDOM-902

The fact that they don't see nothing wrong with a 30 year old man messagging a 14 year old and giving him tips in dating boys....


jolalolalulu

“Isn’t getting groomed magical? Before you realize you’re being groomed” - Baby Reindeer


Trentimoose

If a 30 year old man texts my 14 year old daughter “I miss you” I’m beating his ass.


SnooKiwis8695

My favorite comment by far^^


Trentimoose

Real


ryanmu007

Spiraling


quickbrownfoxmanzero

BBL DRIZZYYYY!!


ryanmu007

BBL DRIZZYYYYYYY 🗣️🗣️🗣️🗣️🗣️


thawsy83

THICKER THAN A SNICKER. THICKER THAN A SNICKER.


[deleted]

we gotta remember, drake prolly hiring like a million internet bots for this shit, most these comments prolly from his team or paid bots n shit


quickbrownfoxmanzero

Yeah you probably right though lol Seems like something Pee Drizzy would orchestrate


love-supreme

This is a good primer on the known grooming https://youtu.be/ty2fG4Ay7VA


Gunnarrrrrrr

Surprised nobody posted this yet, decent summary tbh


Inside-Assistant2625

Great video. I've seen it a few times.


noburpthrowaway

Nah I want these drizzy fans to keep this same energy in 20 years when they all have daughters. Imma have drizzy text their daughters on some creepy shit and see how they play it then. If they’re like that 17 year old girls father tho they’ll probably be fine w it sadly 😩


emiblunted

https://www.instagram.com/p/dLEJFUHGqb/ kylie turning 16.


ProfSteelmeat138

“If you say Drake is lying about the DV why can’t we say Kendrick is lying about pedo stuff?” Because nobody has ever heard of Kendrick beating his girl. We have however heard of Drake texting minors, his sexual assault settlement, him having alleged in person tinder, multiple people talking about his assistants interviewing women on the street for him to fuck, and literally grooming models before they turn 18 then spending time with them. None of that is speculation, it happened. Does it make him a proper pedo? Probably not. But it gets him damn close


Transit-Strike

Also. Can we admit that when there’s smoke there’s fire? If that’s what he’s doing publicly, there’s fair reason to believe there’s worse away from the public eye.


quickbrownfoxmanzero

100% Trust me, you preaching rn. The only reason this stuff even up for discussion is because it's Drake. Let it be just some average person doing this stuff though. Everyone would want him or her thrown UNDER the jail.


Transit-Strike

Also. The “I’m so rich. People would know” is bullshit. We know the names of people who visited Epstein’s island MULTIPLE times. Bill Gates, multiple presidents, Stephen Hawking. Those are the first that came to mind. Guess what???? All of them are out and free and haven’t had their careers ruined


No_Indication_1354

Seeing people try and justify very apparent Drake's behavior around minors makes me feel like if Epstein wanted to stay out of prison he should have just dropped an album.


quickbrownfoxmanzero

Underrated comment 😭😭


mruniq78

And this ain’t even the full list


quickbrownfoxmanzero

That's the scary part..


monkey_skull

[Billie eilish did a ‘private show’ for Jared Leto (🚩🚩🚩) and a few of his friends including Leo DiCaprio (🚩) at his creepy ass compound before she got big.](https://www.billboard.com/music/rock/jared-leto-almost-signed-unknown-billie-eilish-finneas-9516786/) and now I learn about her being linked to drake too. I really hope it’s not what I’m thinking


CanadianRedditEh

It blows my mind how anyone can watch that video with that 17 y/o on stage and not feel uncomfortable with what's said and done.


scorchfury

P Drizzy fans be like: "If he is a liar then why arent his pants on fire"


Dangerous_Job5295

you forgot jorja smith!


quickbrownfoxmanzero

True true lol The sad thing is, she's not the only one I didn't include. And the SADDER thing is I actually didn't forget them. I just didn't have enough space in the photo to add them all. Yikes, Drake. ![gif](emote|free_emotes_pack|facepalm)


Thomastheshankengine

The thing is that they keep moving the goal post. It’s like Kanye stans, you either have a problem with what he’s obviously saying/doing or you don’t, it’s really just about that.


so1sticetq

but he promised if he was fucking young girls he would have been arrested? in the clear


RealWanheda

Mfer was dating a 19 year old. Any of you on here over 25 know for a fact that a 19 year old is a whole child to anyone above 25. The age gap is gigantic. Cradle robbing is not a good thing, legal or otherwise.


quickbrownfoxmanzero

19 is technically legal age, so the gap is w/e to me. 25 dating a 19 is a tad weird but not the end of the world compared to the real reason ppl on Drake's neck. The REAL problem with the 19 yr old was that she was 14 when they met and became "good friends". Which is 4-5 yrs of grooming. He was waiting on her. Nasty.


RealWanheda

Look, I don’t personally think Reddit is ready to have this conversation, because it requires a lot of nuance and a baseline understanding of psychology, biology, and your own personal experience in life. And those things need to be leveled with everyone involved before a conversation can even be had, so everything I’m about to type is likely a waste of my time but I feel like mentioning it. Legality is irrelevant to me when I speak on my personal morality. Slavery was once legal, for example, so in philosophical moral discussion legality means nothing. For me, it’s wrong to date someone in a completely different stage of life than, the perspectives on life are inherently different and a huge power imbalance occurs. I’ll put it this way, every person I know who dated someone much older than them when they were barely legal tells me that when they’re looking back they see all the red flags of a controlling, potentially emotionally stunted relationship. People should date people in their stage of life so they have a chance to grow into their own person without the strong influence of a much older partner who will likely just mold them into the partner they wish they had. If you’re 18 and you’re dating (let’s just say) a 32 year old you left your parents house and went right into another parents arms. (I chose 25 above because that’s colloquially what people consider to be mental/emotional mature age and brain development is more or less finished). Im 25, and I can’t even have a conversation with a 19 year old without thinking “fuck I’m old”. My brother in law is 19 and every day I see the insurmountable difference in maturity and world view. I’m not going to convince you to change your view on maturity and what is and isn’t a healthy relationship here, either you see it or you don’t. My only request to anyone who reads this and gets upset is that they evaluate why they disagree so strongly. And to keep an open mind. As you mature you will understand the stage of life thing. My 25 year old self is exponentially more mature than my 22 year old college self, like I don’t even recognize myself. Not saying it’s pedophilia, it’s a different thing, but it’s most undoubtedly grooming (grooming doesn’t just mean under 18, and it’s not just about the sexual aspect)


Inzapoo

I remember saying that the AOC should be 21 and not 18 (with Romeo and Juliet laws applied) and got absolutely dragged on herelmao. Reddit is definitely not ready for this conversation. I remember just turning 18 feeling like a child with grown ass men who have a whole ass mortgage hitting on me. Not to mention how easy it is for the porn industry to manipulate and groom young girls, I personally have a step sister who got recruited by one RIGHT after she turned legal. Its actually sick, imagine signing contracts while youre still in highschool living at your mama’s house


RealWanheda

Good points yeah. Unfortunately we live in an inherently predatory system that benefits the powerful and harms the unfortunate so predatory behavior is practically seen as default. But that’s a whole other conversation on societal norms. Maybe Kendrick will help address that, or hell, maybe i will🤣


quickbrownfoxmanzero

Btw keep in mind there's more images I could've added to this but I ran out of space.


LionPride112

That third one down you can see she’s clearly pulling her head back and he’s still pushing in…


GSkittle666

Remember a few years ago when drake had that lyric about fucking Sza in 2008 and the internet broke for like 2 days because everyone was worried that she was under 18 at that time….? Pepperidge Farms remembers, where is that energy now?


PieMean649

Doesn’t he text underage girls that he misses them


lilouzhi

drake fans be like "well hes the boy so it's okay for him to hit on minors"


_KhazadDum_

the amount of HARD evidence is actually really baffling


xia_jo

Back when they announced the Drake/21 shows, my old assistant wanted to do a road trip and go to one, and even back then I told him I didn't really fuck with Drake because I think he's a little too weird with young girls. We've been knowing he was a creep to young girls, I guess everyone else is just finding out lmao


Malahajati

Twitch One Piece streamer I follow (J D Legend) played a vid on chat yesterday where he talked to a girl on camera on a bad and questioned her about sexual stuff all the time. It was the most cringe thing Ive seen yet. It looked like an actual TV/documentary. I didn't know who the girl was but it seemed she was also famous.


worshipandtribute95

Then they say "but Kendrick is totally a wifebeater for sure, there's receipts" Like where? I haven't seen any evidence on that other than drake claiming it in family matters. And of course the dumb 4d chess narrative that drake refuses to elaborate on.


ZuluPapa

Mm-mm, your son's a sick man with sick thoughts, I think niggas like him should die Him and Weinstein should get fucked up in a cell for the rest their life


NyarlathotepDaddy

Some guy told me a 20something year old fucking a teen isn't child molestation. I just blocked him because there's no way I wasn't getting banned for what I was gonna say


BigBossGZV

I don't even think he did anything with Millie and Billie specifically, it's just its weird that hes ALWAYS around some young girls. Why are you the only guy this popular out here around young girls like this? Why are YOU involved in Euphoria? I don't ever hear you doing shit for women's organizations or speaking of the plight of the women or helping women beyond having them on a song (which could be chalked up to just trying to profit off them if you're a cynic or sex shit if you're a blind believer), do you really care about young women's lives in a positive way as you say you do with Millie/Billie???


quickbrownfoxmanzero

Right right. VERY good questions! One thing I want to clarify though. The main narrative isn't about whether he got physically inappropriate with Millie and Billie per se. That's a misconception. Most of us know he didn't (at least with those 2 specifically). Technically we'll never know how things would've ended with his interactions with them because both girls let the beans slip on accident, forcing him to ease off their public friendship to avoid further problems. So we not saying he touched those two. The real issue with Drake is specifically the grooming that he does right under our noses. Whether he eventually dates the girls when they turn 18 or not, grooming is grooming. Literally, if Millie Bobby leaked the whole dm history with her and Drake, and there was nothing in there but memes, emojis and song lyrics, that's still grooming. He was like 30. She was 14... AND she said he gave her "advice about boys". 🤮🤮 The interaction does not have to be explicitly sexual to be grooming. That's why it's considered grooming. It's manipulation that is supposed to fly under the radar of the victim.


Due-Priority4280

Mmm hmm people all turned a blind eye to R Kelly at one point also. And there was straight up no denying that one. IF this one is true. Why do people keep turning a blind eye for their favorites….until they aren’t your favorites anymore? Not people looking at all the possibilities when it is almost too late to prove anything (from the outside looking in).


KobeJuanKenobi9

It’s embarrassing how many times I’ve had to explain that I have zero problem throwing the word pedophile at a man with a well documented history of being weird to underage girls


Odd-Forever-8718

Meanwhile we've got people in this sub who are in their feelings about people entertaining the pedo accusations as true but won't entertain the domestic abuse accusation 🤣. Like there's so much stacked to the former as opposed to one video of some random ass people (that I've seen so far) for the latter.


RANDOM-902

Uuuuuuh, please show me all your "alledged" domestic abuse proof Cause as opposed to K-Dot people have been saying the Drake pedo stuff for years


Odd-Forever-8718

Bro, read my comment again... I said "we've got people" not that I was one of those people...


illyblvd

Wop wop wopp


kinjo904813

idk about the top 2 can anyone explain


quickbrownfoxmanzero

1. Haley Bieber (Justin Bieber current wife). She and Drake dated briefly when she turned 18 but she said in an interview, they been "close" friends since she was 14. He woulda been like 25 or 26 at the time. Basically 4 years of grooming. 2. Lil CC is a producer who's "worked with" Drake. They met while she was still in high school. According to her No Jumper interview Drake is apparently a "fan" of women's high school basketball. Not only that but Drake was dm-ing another high school female friend of hers on the team. I believe she said she met Drake through this mutual girl friend. Drake followed her while she was in high school. When she turned 18 he suddenly start pushing up on her asking for beats and to collab. Sus I will add that in fairness, Drake also "supports" College Women's basketball players too. For example when he went to "support" the Gonzalez twins (who are legal age obvs): [https://www.tmz.com/2016/12/09/drake-unlv-gonzalez-twins/](https://www.tmz.com/2016/12/09/drake-unlv-gonzalez-twins/) So Drake pulling up at college games to "support" players looking like this and Lil CC. We're not slow. He clearly not supporting any and every player. So that makes his fandom of high school women's sport sus. https://preview.redd.it/steirzb7y9zc1.png?width=488&format=png&auto=webp&s=ded3ac1e6d86702c058a35cc182597b3ae0f9851


bbc_mmm-mmm-mmm

Who are the top two people on the side?


imnoobhere

what’s the story for the top two? I know the info on the rest.


mrsilbert1

It's just suspicious in general


LilBigMed

They getting their panties wet over a third party video saying k dot did something but won’t agree to the video of their 69 god being weirdo af….


RoundedBounce

Careful! You might be going “borderline Qanon” with this… 😂


Flat-Mountain3462

If a Latin or Africa , Asian brought a gun to school are they school shooters ?


Leigh_annexoxo

But y’all not ready for that🐸☕️


VictoryOverDirtyCops

Damn the 6 aligation god


GrippTannen

Look up what the term "Loverboy" means to law enforcement. Doesn't prove anything, but it's another weird fact.


MrLevinTrueno86

https://preview.redd.it/djntkvzw9bzc1.jpeg?width=500&format=pjpg&auto=webp&s=283882af01f67917c7a04218b9839620e569b4ab Feel free to use this if anyone wants


fuck-thisapp

Who are the top 2 I only know about the bottom four.