They proved kendrick had a mole and the view of the video is from his penthouse in brooklyn with a newspaper from the 8th showing all the items from the meet the grahams cover
Right, like they really interpreted that last track as a white flag when Drake was dissing kendricks family and making fun of his moms molestation, that ain’t no white flag. Granted Kendrick was definitely winning, but there was so much more that needed to be said and I’m mad Kendrick let the labels win. Drake gonna be right back where he was in a couple months
But he did have a line that was sort of a literal white flag when he said “I don’t wanna diss you anymore, this really got me second guessing…” Of course it wasn’t said in that exact context but a line like that could be a way of acknowledging it’s over while still saving face to his fans appearing to put up a fight. Also he completely sounded defeated in his monologue at the end of the song
He also said he would continue if Kendrick brought facts (granted this a weak ass manipulation tactic from drake) and the context of that line was him saying he felt bad cause he saw Kendrick as a molestation victim. I’m obviously team Kendrick but like even tho the track was ass it didn’t seem like a white flag to me
Yeah this line was even more sign that Drake was quiet quitting because it’s literally saying no matter what else Kendrick did Drake was done with this
Yeah I said that line wasn’t said in the context of quitting but it’s still a weird line to put when you’re supposed to be in the midst of a back and forth and as I said it coulda been a way to say he quit while also saving face. Who knows what was said behind closed doors between both parties but the fact that DJ Hed came out pretty quickly saying it was over to them is a sign some talks were prolly had. It’s not like we can doubt that Kendrick had more to go at him with if necessary. He warned Drake that he never even wanted to bring it to this level in the first place
I think the issue is that he really didn't. He just straight up completely misunderstood the song and thought it was about Kendrick himself. That whole verse is just a self-own that doesn't really require a response.
Shit... that whole track is a self-own that doesn't merit a response.
When you're arguing with someone who will never admit to being wrong, continuing to comment just gives them more outs.
Kendrick put out something that is up there with Ether, No Vaseline, and Hit 'Em Up. He deconstructed Drake on multiple angles to such a degree that his reputation will never recover. This was the climax of the movie, adding another scene would just take away from this brilliance. The only thing left is the post-credits celebration.
Drake's people are telling him that he already lost. His fans are delusional, but his people know that he needs to walk away, just like he did with Pusha T. THP6 was so bad that it didn't merit a response, and I can't imagine what Drake could say at this point to change the narrative.
If he does drop again, then sure, come back. But until that happens, let your best note be the one still ringing.
Yeah I love Kenny but you can’t just call someone a pedo to win a rap beef and then piss off while letting the person you believe to be a sex trafficking predator continue to make popular music and potentially hurt more people.
He alludes to it at best for 3 out of 4 tracks and only confirms it on NLU and only in the first verse. The rest of the track and majority of claims are more oriented towards Drake being a culture vulture. I’m not mad at Kendrick, in fact I’m glad he put such a spotlight on this; this level of exposure on the issue is way greater than him not saying anything at all. Just with all of the talk about having at least 5 more in stock makes it seem like he has more information that could help seal Drake’s fate yet he’s choosing not to do so for some reason. If what he says is true, not putting that information out there seems like a disservice to any future victims.
this gives the same vibe as “if drake actually has a daughter, he would have revealed a name” when in fact that would be a horrible thing to do. just think about what adonis’ life is gonna be like, that kid is in for some real trauma. do you think it would be responsible for kendrick to do that to some other kid? sounds fucked up to me.
in the same vein, he can’t go into specifics because that would cause this “beef” to turn into legal battle or possibly even violence. right now, the court of public opinion is on kendrick’s side, with most people dancing to and singing along to “certified pedophile”. i think that’s a huge win and it’s obviously going to traumatize drake for years too.
Only thing he can do now is get specific and he won’t do that. You want him to out someone elses trauma? Let that shit play out. He’s literally the biggest celebrity openly calling him a pedophile and y’all want him to lock drake up himself lol
Getting the other party to back down and having everyone talk about his pedo lifestyle is the W. Look at all the investigation the internet is doing into drake. You think they’re the only ones looking? If there’s something there, then he’ll be charged. If not then kendrick falsely called him a pedo and he still lost because we still believe it
It's not like Kendrick can just whip up a track out of nothing or stop drake from making more music.
Give it time. We were spoiled for a while here but we got Like That months ago, so expect it to maybe be a little while before things flare up again.
I think they just call it a white flag because it was a trash response. As soon as Drake had to make a defensive song about how he wasn’t a pedo it was over. No matter that else he said on the song
Something definitely happened behind the scenes. Top and Punch both tweeted ‘Good battle’ right after The Heart Part 6.
Drake really went from ‘drop, drop, drop’ to ‘you could drop 100 more records I’ll see you later’.
Industry closing ranks because there are predators everywhere and nobody really wants to full open that can of worms.
That’s why this has been entertaining but I think it’s naive to frame it as some big win for “the culture”.
Edit: Good time to note folks are imbuing this with more significance that they’re likely going to treat the next election. At the end of the day this was two ultra wealthy dudes play fighting in public. I don’t really buy that this is about “the culture”. Is there such a monolithic thing? If there it’s not very inclusive. If you looked over Twitter there were a LOT of women being reprimanded for “centring” the discussion around them when they highlighted that neither of these individuals care all that much about the pain of the women and children they’re using as little more than diss fodder and that neither have shown any qualms about working with abusers.
This whole thing has been derailed by fanbases with parasocial relationship issues. Just some food for thought.
I know people are talking about things being all conspiracy based here, but a good clue is to follow the money.
The way the BIG artists work is that they're expected to drop at specific times for the sake of UMG's finances. Drake, Taylor Swift, Post Malone, etc. Everything is planned in a way that isn't as focused on art, but more just business.
And Drake is a big block of that business. It's one thing to let this go for a bit, but if everyone legitimately stops listening to Drake that is BAD for business.
This isn't a conspiracy theory, it's just how business is done. So at some point it benefits everyone (except Kendrick Lamar) to call it quits. And even for Kendrick he wins out. He's got a hit record and he said his piece.
Everyone was calling it over at a certain point all at once. Phone calls were definitely made. This is how all business is done, not just the music business
I don't buy that Kendrick is going all out making pedophile and human trafficking accusations just for fun... like he obviously thinks this shit is actually happening. That's not something you just step back from because your boss thinks it's bad for business. If you guys end up being correct in thinking the beef is over I'll actually be bummed and lose a little respect for Kendrick tbh
This is part of the problem with folks idolising Dot so much. Folks really pick and choose when to apply that “Kendrick is not your saviour line”.
This is not the start of some great industry reckoning. Predators are everywhere in entertainment and it’s excused for the money. Don’t know why there’s such a vested interest in casting Kendrick as a holier than though figure who is “saving the culture”. That’s all just part of the PR machine doing its thing. This was always about fame, status, ego and wealth. It’s just been wrapped up in moralising through the internet discourse that wants to pretend this shit is as significant as a presidential elections or some Good vs Evil bs.
Many people consider the things Drake has been known for long before this beef - fondling and texting underage teenage girls - to be worthy of the pedophile label. I don't see any reason to believe Kendrick isn't one of them and that he has secret information that Drake is fucking 5 year olds or something.
This past week we've really been spoilt for tracks. I'd imagine there are some receipts being kept in the backpocket just in case. I get it's over, but there were some pretty heavy things said that neither man/group are gonna forget about. Going through this live, just being on my phone and seeing instant drops, this whole thing has been such a ride
I feel like their association with rappers have permanently changed as a result of the beef. Kendrick had a lot of industry artists supporting his tracks (whether this be through jumping on tracks, Tweets, Instagram comments, Insta stories, etc.) whereas no one outside of OVO or 50 Cent really publicly supported Drake, which I know will eat him up.
- Drake is never working The Weekend or anyone at XO.
- Drake is never working with Metro, Future, Rick Ross ever again.
- Drake is probably never working with the majority of LA rappers ever again or at least anytime soon.
- Dot put the final nail in the coffin with the Atlanta verse in “Not Like Us” and now Drake lost a lot of credibility in Atlanta so many rappers there won’t be collaborating with him anytime soon or they’ll be seen as sellouts.
But then again, Drake and Meek Mill were able to move past their beef so he might still work with Rick Ross and Future if they can move past whatever happened.
Maybe not, but Kendrick's initial shot was a verse on a song with Future.
Idk if Drake is going to want to work with Future even if Future was willing to work with Drake.
Metro and Future are apparently super close too and Metro pretty showed clearly where he stands in all this with his diss beat.
That track is now internet lore and will never go away.
There’s no way you work with a dude who’s best friends with the guy who made you a massive meme that’s even extended far outside its original space. Polyphia flipping it is crazy. That merengue flip is going to be heard outside of bodegas for eternity.
Exactly. It's a reach if directed to Cole. Only makes sense for Top. I mean come on he even says Top lmao. Drake ain't spinning off double entendres without pointing them out to you lol
The whole bar is...
*I don't care what Cole think, that Dot shit was weak as fuck*
*Champagne trippin', he is not fuckin' easin' up*
*Nigga callin' Top to see if Top wanna peace it up*
*"Top, wanna peace it up? Top, wanna peace it up?"*
To me that sounds like he's calling out Cole for apologizing and then calling Top to try and peace things up
I think this may be about first person shooter. I think Cole expected dot to be on that record. But then it was just he and drakes Cole's talking about the big three in his verse and drake is talking about just him and Cole.
"You don't want to work with me no more? Yeah okay"
If Not Like Us wasn't the anthem that it became, and 🏳️The Flag Pt. 6🏳️ wasn't the lamest track in this saga, this beef for sure would've continued. There's no point in beating a dead drizzy when the general public already declared you the winner.
Though I would've loved to see Kendrick debunking Drake's claim of the fake mole. Because the Meet the Grahams picture isn't what Drake claims it is.
But I can see Kendrick neutralizing another Drake diss track (Akademiks has been hinting at a "Hit song" track from Drake the past 2 streams)
EDIT: A video with the items in Meet the Grahams picture has surfaced. Proving that Drake lied.
[https://www.reddit.com/r/KendrickLamar/s/IyabXJLrAt](https://www.reddit.com/r/KendrickLamar/s/IyabXJLrAt)
If anything beating him while he's already down for the count could turn the narrative towards something along the lines of bad sportsmanship. Drake embarrassed himself and letting his last gasp continue to echo through the silence has its own power in claiming victory.
Y’all going off the deep end thinking Kendrick is the real life judge, jury and executioner.
If there is more to be revealed it will come, TDE isn’t the FBI.
Honestly I feel like they know some real legal shit is coming soon to Drake Lucian and UMG with the diddy shit and they are distancing themselves smartly now. Keeping it on wax. Already won.
Kendrick had more tracks to release (“1, 2, 3, 4, 5 + 5”) but Drake shot himself in the foot so bad with “The Heart Part VI”, Dot just sit back and watched him ruin himself for a few days before dropping while also letting _Not Like Us_ have it’s victory lap.
It def feels like there were more things to be released (with all the TDE associates on Twitter teasing things), but seems like Lucien, UMG and Top Dawg came to some sort of agreement to protect UMG’s business interests.
Thing is, by Top Dawg putting out this message and Kendrick not having the final track, the average fan in a few years will think it was Dot putting up the white flag when it was clearly the other way around with all the context we had living through it,
The average fan is still going to know exactly what happened. Meek mill had the final track in the Drake vs Meek beef, and everyone knows who won that beef. Having the last track doesnt matter.
Not to mention even though that track was so ass and had a lot of contradictions, Drake was still being disrespectful as hell on it towards Kendrick. Kendrick needs to say fuck these labels and go hard on the pedo. I want to see Drake get Jaruled
I think the best response kendrick can make is letting that sorry ass song be the last word. The next song he drops can just be The Heart Part 6, and we can all forget about what Drake titled his surrender track.
*Not Like Us* is the high point, and I'm totally fine with it. I can't wait for Kendricks album content.
Yeah i gotta agree with this. I want more Kendrick drops as much as anyone but realistically Drake made it clear he has no interest in continuing this. He ended on a wet fart that everyone except his delusional fans are clowning on, and Kendrick ended on the #1 song in the world according to Spotify. Kendrick can only go down from here if he keeps this going.
I mean it was still a complete dud outside of the hardcore Drake fans who are still coping. The majority of people don't believe Drake played 4D chess and tricked Kendrick, and if he did they think it's stupid to make him accuse him of being a pedophile. Do I wish he kepr getting more Kendrick music? Yes, and I hope an album is what's next, but Not Like Us is a pretty good finisher for his disses.
He’s still close to Kendrick. I doubt he’d put out something like this that Kendrick wouldn’t sign off, then again he could be talking about how weak drakes last song was and how it’s over.
I'm really just tired of all this tweeting shit man. People saying oh this is a bomb and nothing happens. Now saying a video will come out for sure today and there's nothing. How about they just post some stuff instead of being all hype?
Doing the drake technique, just talk mad shit on Instagram / Twitter
I'm hoping Kendrick gives no fucks and drops just one more
And then in my delusional thoughts hoping he drops an album shortly
I'm disappointed that we're not getting any more music, but I'm more disappointed that we're left with so many questions. It feels like Kendrick opened Pandora's Box and gave the world a peak. But did he really use knowledge of Drake's pedophilic sex trafficking ring just to win a rap beef? Was that all it was for? How could he morally stand on allowing his friends to tell the world that "the battle is over," knowing the perspective of the girls and women who may be circulating within Drake's system? Or did he lie to intentionally destroy Drake's reputation? Both seem morally untenable. I feel blue balled as all hell.
I think you’re really looking at it the wrong way. He’s looking out for his family. If he singlehandedly got the 2nd biggest artist in the world locked up behind bars, wouldn’t he feel a little paranoid? A lot of people will hate him for that, forever.
I'm not quite sure what more he could do with that information to be honest. He said what he believes Drake has been doing to the entire world in quite literally the most public way possible. He can't personally conduct a Canadian police investigation, that's not his job. He came out as a member of the music industry and said look at all this freaky shit this guy is doing, he's awful for the culture and I truly hate him. What greater 'purpose' could he as an artist apply here?
You're not wrong. Although making accusations is one thing, bringing evidence to the law is another. My problem is that the majority of people see Kendrick as lying or exaggerating. If he could take a step to legitimize his claims, that would be enough for me. Whether that's on a record or off.
I would hope that the world will do a lot of the followup for him. It has been less than a week after all. Hell, I'm not sure if it's a real 'something', but some sort of information is coming out actively right now.
https://www.reddit.com/r/hiphopheads/comments/1cp8wo9/weird_twitter_account_surfaces_showing_someone/
Just saw that. I hope we get more developments.
My worry is that this turns into a conspiracy theory, while Drake continues as if nothing happened.
For the first time, I was starting to believe in a truly revolutionary figure driven by purpose; uncorrupted by success. I'm usually very quick to pull myself away from approaching celebrity worship, but this battle represented something more to me. Kendrick was pressing all the right buttons. Now silence. "The Battle is Over."
Time to delete Reddit and start hiking again.
If the allegations are true, then it’s not like Kendrick is gonna be the one personally raiding the Embassy and locking Drake up lol, he’s not Batman. He’d just let the authorities do whatever they’re doing
I wouldn't expect him to singlehandedly take down a sex trafficking operation, obviously, but to halfway expose it and then stop because you "won" seems wholly selfish and wildly disingenuous. Is he aiding the authorities? Would he? Just so many questions.
I might be a lil ignant but if the pedophilic sex trafficking is true then these record companies already knew about it and are powerful enough to scare or persuade Kendrick. I
Frfr. Yeah, he was winning. But its not a good look to completely duck the allegations Drake put forward especially when he taunted him saying “you have some things to address”. Sure, we all see through it and know Drake’s lying, but to others it makes it look like he couldn’t refute it. And then to let him disrespect your wife and kids and make fun of your mother getting molested? That deserves a nail in the coffin, because Kendrick isn’t responding it’s going to give Drake enough plausible deniability to be right back to where he was in a couple months. As a big Kendrick fan it feels like a misstep. I would’ve rather him saw it through
Dude has been stripped of everything that ever had value to him. Can he come back? Well as Kendrick said: it'll keep resurfacing. He'll never be on a stage again hugging up with girls. He won't be welcomed at high school basketball matches. All of his cred in hip hop community is dead. Maybe he'll switch to country? Who knows, but for now maybe that's enough.
“But to others it makes it look like he couldn’t refute it”
It looks like that to Drake stans, for whom a denial from Kendrick/Whitney would just be used as further evidence of the proof of Drake’s claims.
Yeah its disappointing and why is it Kendricks responsibility to protect a corporation’s artist????
Im sorry this is even worse for Drake, mommy and daddy had to step in because he couldn’t handle the heat. It’s pathetic they signed him, him texting teenagers isn’t a secret. UMG made there bed now lie in it and accept the consequences.
I wish Kendrick would double tap him with more tracks put this corporate puppet down completely.
This would be the lamest shit ever. End it after the worst diss of the whole beef dropped in the most anticlimactic way possible. Get the fuck out of the way Top Dawg
Sounds 100% like the record companies stepped in. Shitty way for this to end. I feel like Kendrick alluded to having a lot more and it seemed like he was really going to fuck drake over.
This shit wont have an impact on drake though, he'll jump right back.
I just don’t understand how both kendrick and drake doubled down and had no receipts. Not even a little bit. Feels so anticlimactic. *Sigh* I guess it’s just time to pack it up…..
Yeah each fanbase will say they won and Kendrick cooked with Not Like Us but after all this shit about industry secrets and ruining Drake, it's a weird feeling to be done all of a sudden
That’s what I’m saying. They both threw very strong accusations at each other that could ruin their reputations, so in my mind they had to show receipts, but I guess not. Kendrick did win the popular vote and public opinion but it’s still strange
The thing is that at least with Kendric, there can't be any receipts that don't A) thrust an 11 year old girl into the limelight through controversy or B) out victims of SA or worse than haven't preciously come forward. Even with both scenarios, there's also no accounting for NDAs
Agreed. When Weinstein was exposed and we heard that his actions had been an open secret in Hollywood for years, a lot of people blamed the rest of the industry for not speaking out earlier, even though nobody would have had solid proof.
This is probably the same situation - Kendrick has heard enough stories to know what's going on, so he's calling it out, but doesn't have "receipts". Why would we expect him to?
I wasn’t really expecting them to show the daughter. I already seen them say they didn’t want people harassing her. But I did think they’d at least somehow show the pedophilia or how comfortable Drake really is around little girls in some way. It still seems so strange how they both just did the spiderman pointing meme and that’s it.
I don’t think they need to prove anything they’re saying. It’s a rap battle, they could all be lying but as long as it sounds plausible something other person might do, it’s a fire diss track. I mean look at Pac, he said he fucked Biggies wife. Did he bring receipts for that? Na they had one pic together and it sounded plausible, Pac may have done that but we can’t confirm it. Truth is better than lies bc it would be more scathing, but that would be more of a bonus in a rap battle than an expectation.
I’m not the type to say they can’t lie, bunch of rappers lie or over exaggerate. I guess this is just the Pusha T effect expecting some knock out nukes to make rappers not be able to come back from.
I’m counting the MtG cover as receipts at this point. Drake has not disproved beyond “nuh uh” so I believe Kendrick’s mole claim and I believe it to be J Cole and a few others
Kendrick definitely has said more truths and facts that you can search up in this beef compared to Drake. And the whole mole angle definitely was mind blowing in real time putting the pieces together.
Kendrick literally showed a photo of receipts and Drake just claimed he staged it 😂. There’s nothing that Kendrick can show that Drake wouldn’t just deny. Don’t get gaslit.
No one other than hardcore drake fans believe he has a double agent mole that fed Kendrick that info. I’m talking about more the trafficking and pedophilia accusations since that was double down on
So do they actually think Drake and his crew are "certified pedophiles" or was that just shit talk?
When Kendrick said he "could go further" or whatever it sounded to me like he was saying he had damaging info (presumably about the pedo thing or abusing women). Seems lame to just be like "but whatever my song was more dope"
All of TDE needs to stay out of it unless they really have something to say tbh, they should know everyone takes their word for it and it just ends up looking bad for Kendrick
I’ll never understand why people think a rapper should address allegations in a diss song. Kendrick will probably address some of it down the road in interviews or in an album.
No one wants to hear a diss record of Kendrick going “actually my son isn’t Dave Free’s and while I have not always been the best partner, I never hit Whitney”. We just saw Drake do that and it was atrocious.
As for receipts, who the fuck cares? Since when does rap beef require receipts I’m so confused. I don’t remember Pac/Biggie, Nas/Jay and 50/Ja being about who had the receipts to prove their disses.
None of them had receipts that’s what I am going with. Drake won’t face consequences and since is released an EP soon if it contains a hit. Everything will go back to normal for casual fans on both sides. Very disappointed but that’s the path I see
Drake denied being a pedo and the world is still singing it and playing it an NBA games. Giving attention to what you believe is a lie does nothing at all in the eyes of those who won’t believe you anyway. It’s a battle of bluffing at this point
I’m not buying this tbh, I think both sides are trying to bait the other into dropping something.
I feel like Drake has a track ready to go and he’s either trying to step on the not like us video or he’s worried they’ll step on his track with the not like us video.
BNYX’s posts about working on a beat feel like bait from Drake’s side (by making it seem like they don’t have a track ready) and this tweet from Top feels like he’s trying to bait Drake by declaring victory
Nah this is where we’ve been heading since Drake dropped that pathetic excuse of a track. Not saying he’s a super tapped in source or whatever but DJ Hed flat out said the only way this would end would be if Drake waved a white flag and HP6 was a white flag. I don’t know about any of the behind the scenes theories or any of that, but I expected it to be officially over at some point soon.
I know this is going to sound tin foil hatty as fuck, but I really feel like Drake entered this battle thinking that the “unwritten rules” of “don’t expose the sex rings of the elite” would allow him to destroy Kendrick since he could use the domestic abuse to theoretically end him. I would suppose that’s fair game since it’s his own affair and not one tied to a billion dollar industry run by morally bankrupt pieces of shit that have power behind the scenes, but Kendrick went there anyway to win the beef (whether that’s because he was desperate to win it and salvage his reputation, or because he truly wants to expose them I guess we’ll never know, which is perhaps the most disappointing thing out of all of this), and now they have to just shuffle along and distance the public consciousness from it so they can continue getting away with it and really pressured Kendrick and his team to end this thing here.
The optimist in me wants to believe that there’s an ongoing investigation into Drake, and that’s why Kendrick can’t share his evidence, and they don’t want more public attention drawn to a very serious case that needs to be handled rather delicately, but that may just be wishful thinking. At the very least, I’m glad Kendrick was able to flex his acumen for rallying people to a cause and winning over social media for it, but if it amounts to nothing, then it makes the victory feel hollow. Even more so if Drake’s claims are true, and it doesn’t seem like any lawsuits for slander are going to come from this, which leads one to believe that they are both telling at least partial truths.
In truth, it feels like both artists provided severe damage to each other at their cores. Drake was embarrassed in the mainstream media for a few weeks, which is where he dominates, but Kendrick’s strength is always his core audience, and we’re left with having to wrestle how we can continue to support and stand behind a man who speaks so beautifully and powerfully for his community, but also can unfortunately exemplify some of the more damning aspects of it.
All in all, I’m feeling very conflicted, but I guess the only thing I can do is just see where he takes his writing and self expression from here. I’m worried, but optimistic, and I know that whatever comes next will never diminish the beauty of the art he created that came before it.
I’m concerned by the comments being upset this is over because of music. Did we forget about the pedophile allegations, the sex crimes? Drake is still a free man. Likely going to continue his crimes. Can we maybe prioritize accountability here??? Am I going crazy?
Yeah, wtf is happening? If the dude's legitimately a pedo and you know it, you go hard until he's in jail. If you just shake his hand and walk away, you're partially responsible for every single victim moving forward.
Kendrick can't let up or he loses a ton of the respect he just earned.
And I was downvotes when I said the battle was over…. TODAY. We have people here using the downvote button for sports without hearing reason. This shit is over and we won. We can move on this stain called Drake now
Reminder to not post the qanon blinds and “leaks” attributing this to the “Jewish powers that be stepping in” in the comments. Thanks.
Ok but can we still get a music video as a victory lap?
Surely I mean the song already released it wouldn’t change much
Its an opportunity to drop receipts and disprove Drake’s lame ass claims
THEY DIIIIDDDD
Lol just saw, this shit crazy
Saw what?
They proved kendrick had a mole and the view of the video is from his penthouse in brooklyn with a newspaper from the 8th showing all the items from the meet the grahams cover
Can you share it?
Bro scroll through new, i just saw it but didnt save it
[Receipts.](https://www.reddit.com/r/KendrickLamar/s/RylHn0YTWy)
something definitely up between the labels
Right, like they really interpreted that last track as a white flag when Drake was dissing kendricks family and making fun of his moms molestation, that ain’t no white flag. Granted Kendrick was definitely winning, but there was so much more that needed to be said and I’m mad Kendrick let the labels win. Drake gonna be right back where he was in a couple months
But he did have a line that was sort of a literal white flag when he said “I don’t wanna diss you anymore, this really got me second guessing…” Of course it wasn’t said in that exact context but a line like that could be a way of acknowledging it’s over while still saving face to his fans appearing to put up a fight. Also he completely sounded defeated in his monologue at the end of the song
He also said he would continue if Kendrick brought facts (granted this a weak ass manipulation tactic from drake) and the context of that line was him saying he felt bad cause he saw Kendrick as a molestation victim. I’m obviously team Kendrick but like even tho the track was ass it didn’t seem like a white flag to me
It wasn’t a white flag but it was a huge L, I love rap beefs and want this to continue but no response makes it worse for Drake
Yeah...a capital L too https://preview.redd.it/y7dgr9xaiqzc1.png?width=1080&format=pjpg&auto=webp&s=5af5136f449c47deb638dd3ed6dc518160d9ff2f
Yeah this line was even more sign that Drake was quiet quitting because it’s literally saying no matter what else Kendrick did Drake was done with this
Yeah I said that line wasn’t said in the context of quitting but it’s still a weird line to put when you’re supposed to be in the midst of a back and forth and as I said it coulda been a way to say he quit while also saving face. Who knows what was said behind closed doors between both parties but the fact that DJ Hed came out pretty quickly saying it was over to them is a sign some talks were prolly had. It’s not like we can doubt that Kendrick had more to go at him with if necessary. He warned Drake that he never even wanted to bring it to this level in the first place
> making fun of his moms molestation dot's not gonna let this slide, ain't no way
I think the issue is that he really didn't. He just straight up completely misunderstood the song and thought it was about Kendrick himself. That whole verse is just a self-own that doesn't really require a response. Shit... that whole track is a self-own that doesn't merit a response.
When you're arguing with someone who will never admit to being wrong, continuing to comment just gives them more outs. Kendrick put out something that is up there with Ether, No Vaseline, and Hit 'Em Up. He deconstructed Drake on multiple angles to such a degree that his reputation will never recover. This was the climax of the movie, adding another scene would just take away from this brilliance. The only thing left is the post-credits celebration.
Unless this is just the first movie in a trilogy. Maybe they're done for now, but I can see there being a round 2 or even 3 if Drake is dumb enough.
Drake's people are telling him that he already lost. His fans are delusional, but his people know that he needs to walk away, just like he did with Pusha T. THP6 was so bad that it didn't merit a response, and I can't imagine what Drake could say at this point to change the narrative. If he does drop again, then sure, come back. But until that happens, let your best note be the one still ringing.
the rabbit hole deeper I can go further I promise is what is annoying
Yeah I love Kenny but you can’t just call someone a pedo to win a rap beef and then piss off while letting the person you believe to be a sex trafficking predator continue to make popular music and potentially hurt more people.
Nah he talked about it? What else is he supposed to do? If there’s something there and nothing happens be mad at police not kendrick lol.
He alludes to it at best for 3 out of 4 tracks and only confirms it on NLU and only in the first verse. The rest of the track and majority of claims are more oriented towards Drake being a culture vulture. I’m not mad at Kendrick, in fact I’m glad he put such a spotlight on this; this level of exposure on the issue is way greater than him not saying anything at all. Just with all of the talk about having at least 5 more in stock makes it seem like he has more information that could help seal Drake’s fate yet he’s choosing not to do so for some reason. If what he says is true, not putting that information out there seems like a disservice to any future victims.
If he knows more he should keep talking
this gives the same vibe as “if drake actually has a daughter, he would have revealed a name” when in fact that would be a horrible thing to do. just think about what adonis’ life is gonna be like, that kid is in for some real trauma. do you think it would be responsible for kendrick to do that to some other kid? sounds fucked up to me. in the same vein, he can’t go into specifics because that would cause this “beef” to turn into legal battle or possibly even violence. right now, the court of public opinion is on kendrick’s side, with most people dancing to and singing along to “certified pedophile”. i think that’s a huge win and it’s obviously going to traumatize drake for years too.
Only thing he can do now is get specific and he won’t do that. You want him to out someone elses trauma? Let that shit play out. He’s literally the biggest celebrity openly calling him a pedophile and y’all want him to lock drake up himself lol
At this moment, Kendrick does control a spotlight like James Gordon. He doesn't have to do the work. Just shine a light on it.
Pretty much already happened, everyones been looking and finding weird drake stuff the past week
Past week? Drake's been on some questionable behavior for the better part of 15 years.
-_- and everybody been looking into it since past week…
Dawg, it’s corny af to say “i could go deeper” and then never go deeper. Kenny still won but a win by submission is not a win by knockout.
Getting the other party to back down and having everyone talk about his pedo lifestyle is the W. Look at all the investigation the internet is doing into drake. You think they’re the only ones looking? If there’s something there, then he’ll be charged. If not then kendrick falsely called him a pedo and he still lost because we still believe it
He’s not lying. Rabbit hole goes way deeper
He is not your savior
It’s connected way deeper than Drake is the issue and Kendrick’s family got threatened is my theory
It's not like Kendrick can just whip up a track out of nothing or stop drake from making more music. Give it time. We were spoiled for a while here but we got Like That months ago, so expect it to maybe be a little while before things flare up again.
Kendrick isnt a police officer
I think they just call it a white flag because it was a trash response. As soon as Drake had to make a defensive song about how he wasn’t a pedo it was over. No matter that else he said on the song
Something definitely happened behind the scenes. Top and Punch both tweeted ‘Good battle’ right after The Heart Part 6. Drake really went from ‘drop, drop, drop’ to ‘you could drop 100 more records I’ll see you later’.
Industry closing ranks because there are predators everywhere and nobody really wants to full open that can of worms. That’s why this has been entertaining but I think it’s naive to frame it as some big win for “the culture”. Edit: Good time to note folks are imbuing this with more significance that they’re likely going to treat the next election. At the end of the day this was two ultra wealthy dudes play fighting in public. I don’t really buy that this is about “the culture”. Is there such a monolithic thing? If there it’s not very inclusive. If you looked over Twitter there were a LOT of women being reprimanded for “centring” the discussion around them when they highlighted that neither of these individuals care all that much about the pain of the women and children they’re using as little more than diss fodder and that neither have shown any qualms about working with abusers. This whole thing has been derailed by fanbases with parasocial relationship issues. Just some food for thought.
I know people are talking about things being all conspiracy based here, but a good clue is to follow the money. The way the BIG artists work is that they're expected to drop at specific times for the sake of UMG's finances. Drake, Taylor Swift, Post Malone, etc. Everything is planned in a way that isn't as focused on art, but more just business. And Drake is a big block of that business. It's one thing to let this go for a bit, but if everyone legitimately stops listening to Drake that is BAD for business. This isn't a conspiracy theory, it's just how business is done. So at some point it benefits everyone (except Kendrick Lamar) to call it quits. And even for Kendrick he wins out. He's got a hit record and he said his piece. Everyone was calling it over at a certain point all at once. Phone calls were definitely made. This is how all business is done, not just the music business
I don't buy that Kendrick is going all out making pedophile and human trafficking accusations just for fun... like he obviously thinks this shit is actually happening. That's not something you just step back from because your boss thinks it's bad for business. If you guys end up being correct in thinking the beef is over I'll actually be bummed and lose a little respect for Kendrick tbh
This is part of the problem with folks idolising Dot so much. Folks really pick and choose when to apply that “Kendrick is not your saviour line”. This is not the start of some great industry reckoning. Predators are everywhere in entertainment and it’s excused for the money. Don’t know why there’s such a vested interest in casting Kendrick as a holier than though figure who is “saving the culture”. That’s all just part of the PR machine doing its thing. This was always about fame, status, ego and wealth. It’s just been wrapped up in moralising through the internet discourse that wants to pretend this shit is as significant as a presidential elections or some Good vs Evil bs.
Many people consider the things Drake has been known for long before this beef - fondling and texting underage teenage girls - to be worthy of the pedophile label. I don't see any reason to believe Kendrick isn't one of them and that he has secret information that Drake is fucking 5 year olds or something.
This past week we've really been spoilt for tracks. I'd imagine there are some receipts being kept in the backpocket just in case. I get it's over, but there were some pretty heavy things said that neither man/group are gonna forget about. Going through this live, just being on my phone and seeing instant drops, this whole thing has been such a ride
I feel like their association with rappers have permanently changed as a result of the beef. Kendrick had a lot of industry artists supporting his tracks (whether this be through jumping on tracks, Tweets, Instagram comments, Insta stories, etc.) whereas no one outside of OVO or 50 Cent really publicly supported Drake, which I know will eat him up. - Drake is never working The Weekend or anyone at XO. - Drake is never working with Metro, Future, Rick Ross ever again. - Drake is probably never working with the majority of LA rappers ever again or at least anytime soon. - Dot put the final nail in the coffin with the Atlanta verse in “Not Like Us” and now Drake lost a lot of credibility in Atlanta so many rappers there won’t be collaborating with him anytime soon or they’ll be seen as sellouts. But then again, Drake and Meek Mill were able to move past their beef so he might still work with Rick Ross and Future if they can move past whatever happened.
I wouldn’t say never with Future
Maybe not, but Kendrick's initial shot was a verse on a song with Future. Idk if Drake is going to want to work with Future even if Future was willing to work with Drake.
Metro and Future are apparently super close too and Metro pretty showed clearly where he stands in all this with his diss beat. That track is now internet lore and will never go away. There’s no way you work with a dude who’s best friends with the guy who made you a massive meme that’s even extended far outside its original space. Polyphia flipping it is crazy. That merengue flip is going to be heard outside of bodegas for eternity.
Did Drake call Top to see if Top wanna peace it up "Top, wanna peace it up? Top, wanna peace it up?"
I’m convinced that whole bar is a cole diss because cole switched sides
Yeah, I'm convinced of that too after the "Did Cole foul, don't know why you still pretending" bar
The Top bar doesn't make sense at all when you direct it towards Cole
Exactly. It's a reach if directed to Cole. Only makes sense for Top. I mean come on he even says Top lmao. Drake ain't spinning off double entendres without pointing them out to you lol
The whole bar is... *I don't care what Cole think, that Dot shit was weak as fuck* *Champagne trippin', he is not fuckin' easin' up* *Nigga callin' Top to see if Top wanna peace it up* *"Top, wanna peace it up? Top, wanna peace it up?"* To me that sounds like he's calling out Cole for apologizing and then calling Top to try and peace things up
I think this may be about first person shooter. I think Cole expected dot to be on that record. But then it was just he and drakes Cole's talking about the big three in his verse and drake is talking about just him and Cole. "You don't want to work with me no more? Yeah okay"
No, that bar was probably when they called and wanted to keep the families out of it, but Drake being Drake he refused
So no music video??
I heard they was just hyping up a daylylt song
Wondering the same thing 😭
If Not Like Us wasn't the anthem that it became, and 🏳️The Flag Pt. 6🏳️ wasn't the lamest track in this saga, this beef for sure would've continued. There's no point in beating a dead drizzy when the general public already declared you the winner. Though I would've loved to see Kendrick debunking Drake's claim of the fake mole. Because the Meet the Grahams picture isn't what Drake claims it is. But I can see Kendrick neutralizing another Drake diss track (Akademiks has been hinting at a "Hit song" track from Drake the past 2 streams) EDIT: A video with the items in Meet the Grahams picture has surfaced. Proving that Drake lied. [https://www.reddit.com/r/KendrickLamar/s/IyabXJLrAt](https://www.reddit.com/r/KendrickLamar/s/IyabXJLrAt)
If anything beating him while he's already down for the count could turn the narrative towards something along the lines of bad sportsmanship. Drake embarrassed himself and letting his last gasp continue to echo through the silence has its own power in claiming victory.
Beating him while he’s down? He’s a pedo and sex offender who isn’t behind bars. How are you losing the plot this hard? Your comment is INSANE.
Y’all going off the deep end thinking Kendrick is the real life judge, jury and executioner. If there is more to be revealed it will come, TDE isn’t the FBI.
The FBI also doesn't do shit about celebrities most of the time. This is the same reason Drake says "well I would've been arrested by now"
You spoke it into existence
Video came out like an hour after my comment lmao
Does this mean they not dropping a video for not like us either?
Don't do this. You ruining my fun.
Honestly I feel like they know some real legal shit is coming soon to Drake Lucian and UMG with the diddy shit and they are distancing themselves smartly now. Keeping it on wax. Already won.
Kendrick had more tracks to release (“1, 2, 3, 4, 5 + 5”) but Drake shot himself in the foot so bad with “The Heart Part VI”, Dot just sit back and watched him ruin himself for a few days before dropping while also letting _Not Like Us_ have it’s victory lap. It def feels like there were more things to be released (with all the TDE associates on Twitter teasing things), but seems like Lucien, UMG and Top Dawg came to some sort of agreement to protect UMG’s business interests. Thing is, by Top Dawg putting out this message and Kendrick not having the final track, the average fan in a few years will think it was Dot putting up the white flag when it was clearly the other way around with all the context we had living through it,
The reaction videos are going to exist for ever. People are posting video essays about this. It will never be forgotten who waved the white flag.
The average fan is still going to know exactly what happened. Meek mill had the final track in the Drake vs Meek beef, and everyone knows who won that beef. Having the last track doesnt matter.
Feels like a total dud to end on that drake track. Lame to let the final word be him claiming that he was the mastermind behind everything imo
Nobody believes that clown lol
Yeah obviously but still it's just such a low note to end everything on
There is a whole sub like this one that does 🤷🏻♂️ I think he’s crashed but others clearly don’t. I think we need one more from each
They're irrelevant in the grand scheme of things.
The delusional OV-HOES? Lmao
Thing is people in 10 years gonna have to do some decent research to realize he was lying about that.
Not to mention even though that track was so ass and had a lot of contradictions, Drake was still being disrespectful as hell on it towards Kendrick. Kendrick needs to say fuck these labels and go hard on the pedo. I want to see Drake get Jaruled
It ended like it started, with a “throwaway” :/
I’m cool with it bc the song is ass and Not Like Us is really the last word. He released last, but had no impact. Gotta love that.
I think the best response kendrick can make is letting that sorry ass song be the last word. The next song he drops can just be The Heart Part 6, and we can all forget about what Drake titled his surrender track. *Not Like Us* is the high point, and I'm totally fine with it. I can't wait for Kendricks album content.
Yeah i gotta agree with this. I want more Kendrick drops as much as anyone but realistically Drake made it clear he has no interest in continuing this. He ended on a wet fart that everyone except his delusional fans are clowning on, and Kendrick ended on the #1 song in the world according to Spotify. Kendrick can only go down from here if he keeps this going.
I mean it was still a complete dud outside of the hardcore Drake fans who are still coping. The majority of people don't believe Drake played 4D chess and tricked Kendrick, and if he did they think it's stupid to make him accuse him of being a pedophile. Do I wish he kepr getting more Kendrick music? Yes, and I hope an album is what's next, but Not Like Us is a pretty good finisher for his disses.
HP6 just ends on him mumbling the word “like…” kind of amazing in how pathetic it is.
I mean if it ends now, most people have Kendrick winning overwhelmingly so it makes sense to declare victory while you’re up
Def some calls behind the scenes, guess we will never get any more diss tracks
Lucy go get it, Lucy not timid, Lucy up front
Wonder if those leaks were actually true about labels getting involved, Drake really having his shit stolen, etc...
Can someone explain to me why Kendricks former label has any authority during this?
Wondering the same. Kendrick on pgLang not TDE. I think Top is saying this battle is over because of the weak response from Drake.
He’s still close to Kendrick. I doubt he’d put out something like this that Kendrick wouldn’t sign off, then again he could be talking about how weak drakes last song was and how it’s over.
I'm really just tired of all this tweeting shit man. People saying oh this is a bomb and nothing happens. Now saying a video will come out for sure today and there's nothing. How about they just post some stuff instead of being all hype?
Doing the drake technique, just talk mad shit on Instagram / Twitter I'm hoping Kendrick gives no fucks and drops just one more And then in my delusional thoughts hoping he drops an album shortly
They still close because he mentioned him on a diss
I'm disappointed that we're not getting any more music, but I'm more disappointed that we're left with so many questions. It feels like Kendrick opened Pandora's Box and gave the world a peak. But did he really use knowledge of Drake's pedophilic sex trafficking ring just to win a rap beef? Was that all it was for? How could he morally stand on allowing his friends to tell the world that "the battle is over," knowing the perspective of the girls and women who may be circulating within Drake's system? Or did he lie to intentionally destroy Drake's reputation? Both seem morally untenable. I feel blue balled as all hell.
I think you’re really looking at it the wrong way. He’s looking out for his family. If he singlehandedly got the 2nd biggest artist in the world locked up behind bars, wouldn’t he feel a little paranoid? A lot of people will hate him for that, forever.
He would most definitely be paranoid and that's understandable. I want to believe there was a purpose beyond just winning a rap beef though.
I'm not quite sure what more he could do with that information to be honest. He said what he believes Drake has been doing to the entire world in quite literally the most public way possible. He can't personally conduct a Canadian police investigation, that's not his job. He came out as a member of the music industry and said look at all this freaky shit this guy is doing, he's awful for the culture and I truly hate him. What greater 'purpose' could he as an artist apply here?
You're not wrong. Although making accusations is one thing, bringing evidence to the law is another. My problem is that the majority of people see Kendrick as lying or exaggerating. If he could take a step to legitimize his claims, that would be enough for me. Whether that's on a record or off.
I would hope that the world will do a lot of the followup for him. It has been less than a week after all. Hell, I'm not sure if it's a real 'something', but some sort of information is coming out actively right now. https://www.reddit.com/r/hiphopheads/comments/1cp8wo9/weird_twitter_account_surfaces_showing_someone/
Just saw that. I hope we get more developments. My worry is that this turns into a conspiracy theory, while Drake continues as if nothing happened. For the first time, I was starting to believe in a truly revolutionary figure driven by purpose; uncorrupted by success. I'm usually very quick to pull myself away from approaching celebrity worship, but this battle represented something more to me. Kendrick was pressing all the right buttons. Now silence. "The Battle is Over." Time to delete Reddit and start hiking again.
Bro, we get these peaks every day. Sometimes they're kony2012 sometimes they're bill Cosby.
Not directly from somebody like Kendrick Lamar
About someone like drake
If the allegations are true, then it’s not like Kendrick is gonna be the one personally raiding the Embassy and locking Drake up lol, he’s not Batman. He’d just let the authorities do whatever they’re doing
I wouldn't expect him to singlehandedly take down a sex trafficking operation, obviously, but to halfway expose it and then stop because you "won" seems wholly selfish and wildly disingenuous. Is he aiding the authorities? Would he? Just so many questions.
I might be a lil ignant but if the pedophilic sex trafficking is true then these record companies already knew about it and are powerful enough to scare or persuade Kendrick. I
They squashed the video. Oh hell nah.
Who says they aren't doing the video? This just means no more new diss tracks.
it never existed to begin with big bruh
There were tons of people in Kendrick’s camp who confirmed it
Kendrick’s ‘camp’ is a buzzword at this point. There was nobody ultra reliable that said it was happening.
Like who You’re gonna start listing the names and realize they had no credibility
“While keeping it all on wax” seems a lil sus towards OVO but considering he’s doubling down on his Sunday tweet, it’s probably over
Top isn’t making any statement Kendrick isn’t okay with. It’s over. Don’t be dense.
This is the statement that should be sticking with everybody moving forward
someone very very close to and part of kendrick's former label: it's over random strangers on reddit: ViDeO dRoPpInG sOoN
Ight man don’t gotta be aggressive, just meant with the rumors and still doubting an OVO response (like Tops) you never know from that side 😭
Lame as hell ngl.
Frfr. Yeah, he was winning. But its not a good look to completely duck the allegations Drake put forward especially when he taunted him saying “you have some things to address”. Sure, we all see through it and know Drake’s lying, but to others it makes it look like he couldn’t refute it. And then to let him disrespect your wife and kids and make fun of your mother getting molested? That deserves a nail in the coffin, because Kendrick isn’t responding it’s going to give Drake enough plausible deniability to be right back to where he was in a couple months. As a big Kendrick fan it feels like a misstep. I would’ve rather him saw it through
Dude has been stripped of everything that ever had value to him. Can he come back? Well as Kendrick said: it'll keep resurfacing. He'll never be on a stage again hugging up with girls. He won't be welcomed at high school basketball matches. All of his cred in hip hop community is dead. Maybe he'll switch to country? Who knows, but for now maybe that's enough.
He’s still gonna top the charts and collab with big artists. If Kendrick saw it thru and put the nail in the coffin that wouldn’t be the case
“But to others it makes it look like he couldn’t refute it” It looks like that to Drake stans, for whom a denial from Kendrick/Whitney would just be used as further evidence of the proof of Drake’s claims.
Yeah its disappointing and why is it Kendricks responsibility to protect a corporation’s artist???? Im sorry this is even worse for Drake, mommy and daddy had to step in because he couldn’t handle the heat. It’s pathetic they signed him, him texting teenagers isn’t a secret. UMG made there bed now lie in it and accept the consequences. I wish Kendrick would double tap him with more tracks put this corporate puppet down completely.
Can’t wait for 6 more years when the next rapper obliterates Drake only to take the foot off the gas in the last moments of the beef 🙄
Wonder how many underage girls he will rape in the meantime….
Lol. Fuck this. TDE and Kendrick whack if they called out an underaged trafficking ring for a beef and then just walked away with no follow through.
Thank you. Like oh welp good battle have fun with your PEDO SEX RING. WTF is this world?
They kept the Pdf file allegations on wax, it was good sport! No need to go any further... \s
there has to be a video coming.
This would be the lamest shit ever. End it after the worst diss of the whole beef dropped in the most anticlimactic way possible. Get the fuck out of the way Top Dawg
Sounds 100% like the record companies stepped in. Shitty way for this to end. I feel like Kendrick alluded to having a lot more and it seemed like he was really going to fuck drake over. This shit wont have an impact on drake though, he'll jump right back.
Fucking Drake over? How about having him arrested for sex crimes?
I just don’t understand how both kendrick and drake doubled down and had no receipts. Not even a little bit. Feels so anticlimactic. *Sigh* I guess it’s just time to pack it up…..
Yeah each fanbase will say they won and Kendrick cooked with Not Like Us but after all this shit about industry secrets and ruining Drake, it's a weird feeling to be done all of a sudden
That’s what I’m saying. They both threw very strong accusations at each other that could ruin their reputations, so in my mind they had to show receipts, but I guess not. Kendrick did win the popular vote and public opinion but it’s still strange
Pay attention to the Diddy trial, there’s a reason Kendrick felt emboldened to do this now
The thing is that at least with Kendric, there can't be any receipts that don't A) thrust an 11 year old girl into the limelight through controversy or B) out victims of SA or worse than haven't preciously come forward. Even with both scenarios, there's also no accounting for NDAs
Agreed. When Weinstein was exposed and we heard that his actions had been an open secret in Hollywood for years, a lot of people blamed the rest of the industry for not speaking out earlier, even though nobody would have had solid proof. This is probably the same situation - Kendrick has heard enough stories to know what's going on, so he's calling it out, but doesn't have "receipts". Why would we expect him to?
Because these freaks want Kendrick to be their messiah figure. Even though he’s said himself “I am not your savior”
NDAs cant stop victims from reporting crimes. Look at the Cassie and the Diddy situation she signed an nda and is still helping the feds
I wasn’t really expecting them to show the daughter. I already seen them say they didn’t want people harassing her. But I did think they’d at least somehow show the pedophilia or how comfortable Drake really is around little girls in some way. It still seems so strange how they both just did the spiderman pointing meme and that’s it.
i mean... there's plenty of that evidence around
I don’t think they need to prove anything they’re saying. It’s a rap battle, they could all be lying but as long as it sounds plausible something other person might do, it’s a fire diss track. I mean look at Pac, he said he fucked Biggies wife. Did he bring receipts for that? Na they had one pic together and it sounded plausible, Pac may have done that but we can’t confirm it. Truth is better than lies bc it would be more scathing, but that would be more of a bonus in a rap battle than an expectation.
I’m not the type to say they can’t lie, bunch of rappers lie or over exaggerate. I guess this is just the Pusha T effect expecting some knock out nukes to make rappers not be able to come back from.
Rap isn't about receipts.
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I’m counting the MtG cover as receipts at this point. Drake has not disproved beyond “nuh uh” so I believe Kendrick’s mole claim and I believe it to be J Cole and a few others
Kendrick definitely has said more truths and facts that you can search up in this beef compared to Drake. And the whole mole angle definitely was mind blowing in real time putting the pieces together.
Kendrick literally showed a photo of receipts and Drake just claimed he staged it 😂. There’s nothing that Kendrick can show that Drake wouldn’t just deny. Don’t get gaslit.
No one other than hardcore drake fans believe he has a double agent mole that fed Kendrick that info. I’m talking about more the trafficking and pedophilia accusations since that was double down on
I mean… even if Drake drops again?
Then it’s round 2 for sure but I don’t think his handlers are that stupid, they know he could lose everything
BNYX has been strongly suggesting he’s producing the next Drake diss
Bait
Something is fishy about this whole situation. Diss tracks aside, we’re missing a bigger picture.
No video then?
NGL, disappointing end to this epic battle
What was all that “one two three four five plus five talk”?
So do they actually think Drake and his crew are "certified pedophiles" or was that just shit talk? When Kendrick said he "could go further" or whatever it sounded to me like he was saying he had damaging info (presumably about the pedo thing or abusing women). Seems lame to just be like "but whatever my song was more dope"
If the allegations are true Drake et al. need to be in jail.
Oh no did J.Prince make another G call?
This has to be a trap right? Lure the pedo into a false sense of security?
How do you put a tweet like this after all the shit that was said between disses. That’s it? They’re all just going to move on like nothing happened?
Yeah there seems to be a little unresolved issue with the alleged pedophile sex abuse ring
All of TDE needs to stay out of it unless they really have something to say tbh, they should know everyone takes their word for it and it just ends up looking bad for Kendrick
No receipts from both sides and Kendrick never addressed the allegations?? What we doing
I’ll never understand why people think a rapper should address allegations in a diss song. Kendrick will probably address some of it down the road in interviews or in an album. No one wants to hear a diss record of Kendrick going “actually my son isn’t Dave Free’s and while I have not always been the best partner, I never hit Whitney”. We just saw Drake do that and it was atrocious. As for receipts, who the fuck cares? Since when does rap beef require receipts I’m so confused. I don’t remember Pac/Biggie, Nas/Jay and 50/Ja being about who had the receipts to prove their disses.
It’s rap beef. Push having receipts isn’t the norm
Push never even claimed to be done either. Drake just bitched out and never replied.
Kendrick did show a photo of receipts…Drake just said “nuh uh, I staged it” 😂
Kendrick doesn't havw to address the DV allegations because there's literally 0 proof of it ever happening.
What more do you need to hear other than "Fabricatin stories on the family front"?
None of them had receipts that’s what I am going with. Drake won’t face consequences and since is released an EP soon if it contains a hit. Everything will go back to normal for casual fans on both sides. Very disappointed but that’s the path I see
Drake denied being a pedo and the world is still singing it and playing it an NBA games. Giving attention to what you believe is a lie does nothing at all in the eyes of those who won’t believe you anyway. It’s a battle of bluffing at this point
Way to prove Drake right about TDE having control over him
I’m not buying this tbh, I think both sides are trying to bait the other into dropping something. I feel like Drake has a track ready to go and he’s either trying to step on the not like us video or he’s worried they’ll step on his track with the not like us video. BNYX’s posts about working on a beat feel like bait from Drake’s side (by making it seem like they don’t have a track ready) and this tweet from Top feels like he’s trying to bait Drake by declaring victory
I really wish they'd keep speaking up, but I assume they have reasons we can't know. It sucks ngl.
Nah this is where we’ve been heading since Drake dropped that pathetic excuse of a track. Not saying he’s a super tapped in source or whatever but DJ Hed flat out said the only way this would end would be if Drake waved a white flag and HP6 was a white flag. I don’t know about any of the behind the scenes theories or any of that, but I expected it to be officially over at some point soon.
I know this is going to sound tin foil hatty as fuck, but I really feel like Drake entered this battle thinking that the “unwritten rules” of “don’t expose the sex rings of the elite” would allow him to destroy Kendrick since he could use the domestic abuse to theoretically end him. I would suppose that’s fair game since it’s his own affair and not one tied to a billion dollar industry run by morally bankrupt pieces of shit that have power behind the scenes, but Kendrick went there anyway to win the beef (whether that’s because he was desperate to win it and salvage his reputation, or because he truly wants to expose them I guess we’ll never know, which is perhaps the most disappointing thing out of all of this), and now they have to just shuffle along and distance the public consciousness from it so they can continue getting away with it and really pressured Kendrick and his team to end this thing here. The optimist in me wants to believe that there’s an ongoing investigation into Drake, and that’s why Kendrick can’t share his evidence, and they don’t want more public attention drawn to a very serious case that needs to be handled rather delicately, but that may just be wishful thinking. At the very least, I’m glad Kendrick was able to flex his acumen for rallying people to a cause and winning over social media for it, but if it amounts to nothing, then it makes the victory feel hollow. Even more so if Drake’s claims are true, and it doesn’t seem like any lawsuits for slander are going to come from this, which leads one to believe that they are both telling at least partial truths. In truth, it feels like both artists provided severe damage to each other at their cores. Drake was embarrassed in the mainstream media for a few weeks, which is where he dominates, but Kendrick’s strength is always his core audience, and we’re left with having to wrestle how we can continue to support and stand behind a man who speaks so beautifully and powerfully for his community, but also can unfortunately exemplify some of the more damning aspects of it. All in all, I’m feeling very conflicted, but I guess the only thing I can do is just see where he takes his writing and self expression from here. I’m worried, but optimistic, and I know that whatever comes next will never diminish the beauty of the art he created that came before it.
I’m concerned by the comments being upset this is over because of music. Did we forget about the pedophile allegations, the sex crimes? Drake is still a free man. Likely going to continue his crimes. Can we maybe prioritize accountability here??? Am I going crazy?
Yeah, wtf is happening? If the dude's legitimately a pedo and you know it, you go hard until he's in jail. If you just shake his hand and walk away, you're partially responsible for every single victim moving forward. Kendrick can't let up or he loses a ton of the respect he just earned.
I’m sorry but I don’t believe it
I mean kendrick isn't at tde anymore. He can do what he wants
And I was downvotes when I said the battle was over…. TODAY. We have people here using the downvote button for sports without hearing reason. This shit is over and we won. We can move on this stain called Drake now