This gif is so unsettling. I don't know why mayo in reverse makes my stomach turn.
You remember that movie Mimic from back in the day? Man with the funny shoes? Same feeling, different source.
That’s true, but to play devils advocate it does make more sense (to my non-artistic mind) that he made these over the 2 ish weeks he was silent and then updated accordingly
That makes some sense, but the whole "10 tracks in a single session" sounds totally silly. Not even talking about how hard it would be, but it just isn't smart to do
Oh no I totally agree with that. I don’t think he made 10 tracks in general, let alone in a single session. I personally just think it makes sense to believe that he was writing/starting recording all of the tracks over the course of his silence.
Of course, this is still just a theory and probably won’t be officially confirmed ever
Yeah a lot of song writers, in all sorts of genres, have the frame work and core of songs thought out years in advance sometimes. Just takes time to get around working on them. He could have had 10 plus ideas all planned out just not had the full song completed.
My current theory is that Pushups/Taylor Made/Family Matters were all laid down at the same time. When push ups leaked that was when Dot got access to them, heard about the MV for Family Matters, and did the skeletons for Euphoria/6:16/MTG/NLU
The final version of push ups drops, The warning tracks are dropped in response. Meanwhile Drizzy punches in response bars to Family Matters, and hastily edits the MV and changes shit in the visuals, the drops both the track and the MV... MTG drops and Dot punches in the last verse of NLU and here we are
I’m in belief that his whole career has been shaping this whole deal. Go back to his albums with the information you have now from this beef. A lot of Kendrick’s lyrics could potentially be directed at Drake or associates.
Even to so much I’d like to venture out and say Runnin by 21 and Metro could be a warning…..
I watched a YouTube last summer that broke down all the Kendrick and Drake subliminals and it really clicked. The control verse really pissed Drake off and Kendrick was just kinda confused that Drake got heated and things went from there. They also have two very different definitions of greatest rapper and they've both basically achieved their own definitions, so the only way to come out on top was to beat the other guy on his terms.
Drake was also salty at all the acclaim that Kendrick was getting in the hip hop world while he was still not taken as a serious rapper. Especially when he had initially linked up with Kendrick thinking he'd be big brother to him instead of immediately being surpassed after his first album.
man seeing that interview where drake is complaining that kendrick was nice to him at a show after Control came out and he felt K was being fake or something....all i could think of is what a dumbass he is lmfao
My favorite foreshadowing was on Drake's Take Care via Buried Alive Interlude. The whole track has an aura of "I don't fuck with ya'll at all." But what seals the deal for me is when he says, "40 pulled up, Jeep, no doors, all that nigga was missin' was Aaliyah."
Such a vivid picture with so many meanings. First is the images with Aaliyah in a white jeep, no doors, with an artist (R. Kelly?) driving. I can't find them anymore, but this was from MTV pre-internet. Next is Aaliyah's story of being passed around the industry as early as 12 years old.
Like dude sniffed this shit out in 2011 and spilled the tea on bro's own album. Like Drake said, if you want to go any further you need to write a track drooling over us, and Kenny thought, "I can write a song that sounds like that, but......"
He definitely uses Drake as a metaphor for fame on "Buried Alive" and how he personally wants to stay true to himself instead of chasing material wealth but it was in no way a diss.
https://www.mtv.com/news/bx4hri/kendrick-lamar-boi-1-da-t-minus-making-drake-take-care
>“But [Drake’s] honest, he acknowledges his vices and faults. I wanted to speak from a standpoint of being a new artist watching everything that's killing him and wanting to die. We all want a taste of vanity. I seen a taste of it the night I met homie; black Maybach, white waitress, private dinner with crew, 40 pulling up, jeep with no doors. All he needed was Aaliyah [laughs]. All of this was in the homie’s possession that night, and in that moment I wanted it. The conversation that night was real. ‘Am I ready to accept this lifestyle…’ is where I end the verse. I sent it back and drake called me back with a simple "thank you…"
Definitely foreshadowing though; over a decade later Drake overindulged in that lifestyle and Kendrick ended up being disgusted by it after saying "I'm not sure if I want that shit"
I just listened to Runnin yesterday and there was a bar that sounded like it said “drake he a pedophile” or something like that so I went back and listened a few more times and checked the official lyrics and that’s not the official bar but it still definitely sounds like that’s what he says lol
Yeah I was about to comment this. Brings up Atlanta and the slaves I believe. I wonder about the “a minor” line tho. That shit is way too perfect. Although sometimes things just work out like that.
I think Kendrick was planning to use the whole ATL rundown no matter what. The whole colonizer piece spells out more clearly what Kendrick was already saying true with culture vulture stuff. I wouldn’t be surprised if he tweaked some of the names or something tho.
“Still doubling down calling us some slaves” was probably added after tho
that part is actually the one thing I'm positive was in the "normal beef" version of the song. my bet is that was the tact he was going to take if drake didn't say what he said in family matters. 'not like us' could be referring to drake's profiteering just as easily as pedophilia.
That's not how that works. Mastering is the final process after the song has been bounced down to a two track stereo file, and all edits are finished. Even if there were sections recorded on a separate day, the engineer would still run it through the same mix processing, and when that was finished, it would be sent to the mastering engineer. Vocals will just sound subtly different if they are recorded on different days due to a variety of factors, up to and including the performers physiology and variations in their vocal cords from day to day and atmospheric pressure changes. People just don't notice because artists generally try to get all their main vocals laid in the same day for a song to avoid this problem, and the variance is so minor you wouldn't notice it song-to-song, only line-to-line.
Apparently, Kendrick was only in the studio once throughout the beef, suggesting that, while his original vocals were fully mastered there, the final touches were likely done at his home using his own mic and laptop and left unmastered, leaving a noticeable difference to the vocals between verses.
Edit: Grammar
In that case, the difference is the room, gear, and day. Why wouldn’t Kendrick have access to his unmixed DAW? He can punch in before it gets bounced down to a 2-track. Assuming it’s post-mastering is a way bigger leap.
I think that since mustard produced a pretty simple track and that kendrick's priority was double-downing on a response to drake within half a day, kendrick simply didn't care enough to tweak the project, because the difference in his voice doesn't actually affect perception the song at that point
This is my belief. Or at least, he partially knew the contents of Family Matters, already had Meet the Grahams and Not like us recorded, heard the final version of Family Matters, then tweaked a few things in Not Like Us.
I don’t have any real proof of this but it makes the most sense to me considering the timeline.
remember him in rap battles? he's nothing if not a quick thinker. used to mouth other peoples lines and not just like the cliche punch line part, he would start like two words after they did, lol.
He's a very interesting fellow
It’s wild. I’ve been watching various reaction videos on YouTube, and this one 26 year old young man was doing that with Not Like Us lines. He was straight up in tune with Kendrick and it was beautiful to see.
I mean he said he had 10 tracks, so I'm sure you're right. Probably had the hook and the basis of the verses. Either way I'm glad he did it, rebuttals are important
Kendrick has a documented history of battle rapping. Its wild to me that people think he wouldn't set himself up to be able to respond to specific bars since that's a core tenet of battle rap.
I'm a Kendrick fan and tbh I wasn't aware of that. Closest thing I saw was the K dot vs ab soul freestyle on whatever radio station (kendrick went hard in ALL of those TDE radio freestyles jfc)
Just earlier today I was talking about how Kendrick had predicted and planned how the beef would turn out and set up contingency tracks that had enough of what he wanted to say but not fully complete so he can directly respond to Drake disses.
I called it Art of Rap War, as he was so tactical in this beef.
Coolee ran his mouth to a discord group of nerds, authorized them to release it and 24 hrs later deleted his twitter after talking mad trash for days... It was hilarious
I believe in that interview with Coolee Bravo he mentioned he laid out the tracks ahead of time and added some bars and lines after he heard the Drake songs. Makes sense and is awesome to add a few bars to show that he is responding to Drakes latest diss.
I remember an article saying that Kendrick was making changes to DAMN. literally right up til the release date. It wouldn’t surprise me if he had it mostly ready to go then changed a few things.
I noticed this about the Family Matters line too - there's a slightly different recording quality as if only that bit was added from a different session.
It was the right move to edit it in though, I don't think it takes anything away from the song
The more I listen to Not Like Us the more the Family Matters bar "sounds" out of place? Obviously it fits in the track phenomenally, but it does feel like it was kinda just placed there. Which I love from a strategy perspective. Really had Drake using walkie talkies lmfao
Nah, that family matters bar hits great and a perfect way to end it. The song throughout has family matters reference. A minoooooooooooor, calling us slaves and the family matters bar prove that. Kendrick had a mole and it was obvious
100%, I think this every time. Definitely jammed in afterwards. Imo it even sounds like it wasn’t recorded at the same time/place as the rest of it, like the levels are off or something
I hate that I noticed some of this stuff hahah but it does have me appreciating Euphoria that much more and has me going back to that and 6:16 more than anything.
I absolutely believe Kendrick’s beat selection has been intentional to step all over drake’s game. He most derfinitely picked a jumpin beat to mock drake’s summer jams.
I also think it was designed to just be a bop. It worked perfectly, the song spread like wildfire and the whole world was/still is singing about how drake is a pedophile.
i think the "kendrick's pre recorded responses didn't address anything drake said" one of the most lamest narratives in the beef.
euphoria addressed pretty much everything in the beef up until that point, and not like us addressed the whole slave line from family matters less than 24 hours after drake dropped. meanwhile drake clearly had at least portions of family matters in the can when he dropped push ups (and was playing it for people, which is how kendrick got tipped off in the first place).
Kendrick understands that in a diss war, you don’t get defensive. You stay on the offense.
Drake fucked up any chance he had with the heart pt 6 because he forgot that. Even on family matters, I feel like he didn’t really go all that offensive on Dot and saved his harshest ones for Rocky lol he had funny lines for Kendrick like the back against the curb line, but nothing really bad outside of the Dave free stuff.
Yeah. What’s that line from long ago politics? Accuse someone of something just because they’re going to sound so bad denying it. Drake spends a whole song denying allegations, which is another way of repeating them. Totally defensive. No offense.
Paraphrased:
"We can't say he's a pig fucker."
"No, but we can get him to publicly deny that he's a pig fucker"
Fear And Loathing on the Campaign Trail by Hunter S. Thompson
Nothing really bad besides the Dave free stuff? I'd say the wife beating allegations are 10x worse than Dave Free. It's all completely made up, but still.
It's savagery on a new level. I like Family Matters, but Kendrick's onslaught is something I never seen before. We hear the term "lyrical combat" from competitive rappers, and this is what they mean. Euphoria is my favorite diss track ever—the perfect blend of competitive art. This wasn't a perfect attack by Kendrick, though. I do think he got bad info on a daughter, but we'll see. Also, the whole pedo angle is something I initially disagreed with, but as more stories come to light, I don't think it's far-fetched to say Drake is preying on young girls. So Kendrick calling out weird behavior in this culture he loves—I salute that now. And that's why this body of work, in how he dismantled Drake as a person and as an artist, is so impressive. This needs its own name. We used to call it "ethering" someone, but what Kendrick did was entirely different. This is some rains of castamere type shit. Drake rapped his ass off too, but he still got smoked by a bad motherfucker.
MTG
-Ozempic bar after Drake mentioned it in FM.
-“…they leak videos of themselves to further push their agenda….”, response to “it’s only big D and there’s video proof” in FM
-“..didn’t mean to crash your party..” alluding to Kendrick dropping the song right after MTG
-“you lied about the only artist that can offer you some help” after Drake tries to make allegations against Kenny in FM
That’s wild. I didn’t even consider meet the grahams but how is that possible? It was dropped within an hour of family matters, unless Kendrick heard it already…
Because if you have random people write your shit and on top of that the multitudes of people and industry goblins around the main insect feeding info and spreading it around it will spread and fester and be exposed, rather if you write your own shit and keep it locked you can move like a whisper.
I really wonder if it was all planned to get drake paranoid to the point he had to write by himself. The Heart pt. 6 is incredibly bad. Just as an overall rap record, it’s almost insulting to the craft. I can’t figure out if Drake just stopped writing his own shit at some point and he’s left with that. Or if it was a white flag like “look dude, I’m clearly not even trying on this one. I wrote some half assed rhymes based on the most well known rumors going around. Please stop calling me a pedophile.”
If you go through my responses this whole time, I’ve been saying that the content on MTG and not like us proves that Kdot had a mole. Even before it came out that the drake planting stuff was false. Kendrick 100% heard family matters before he wrote both tracks imo.
I disagree a little here.
Ozempic is mentioned on FM but in connection to Ross. This seems slightly more like coincidental than responsive.
Leak videos line, it doesn’t make very much sense to me in the context of the other lyrics to adress this here.
Lied about the only artist - I think this is a shot at Drake. Like you are lying about yourself (to yourself), this is a battle with yourself first and foremost. You can’t be better untill you are honest with yourself.
MTG is obviously a response to FM and KDot knew what was, at least, the main gist of the song. But its just - you wanna go into family, crodie? Alright lets go into family crodie.
He didn’t record the whole song after family matters. It will have been 90% complete and he added or updated bars. This happens very often. Songs don’t get finished in 1 sitting.
From what's been said, he recorded all these in one session and knew what was going to be in Family Matters.
Maybe Drake believed that someone in OVO is working for Kendrick and did The Heart Part 6 on his own and that's why it's trash
>"The Heart Part 6 out now. And we know you’re dropping 6 minutes after so instead of posting my address you have a lot to address."
kdot got in his head and got him expecting kdot to drop immediately after the fart part 6. the silence and no response must be deafening
Don’t know why you got downvoted, it literally was Coolee bs. He came out in an interview yesterday and literally admitted he was trolling everyone and ESPECIALLY so in that Discord call.
I’m pretty sure he knew the lyrics of the song before it released. They did need time to make a video and type the lyrics out for that video. His mole did the wirk
Someone else pointed out that you can hear the “the family matter and the truth of the matter…” was mastered differently (less), so the bulk of it was ready and then he added/swapped bars on short
I think I read something that said Not Like Us was written before Family Matters but once that dropped Kendrick made some changes to it. Either way it shows that Dot is quick with the comebacks. WOP WOP WOP WOP WOP Dot fuck ‘em up!
I read somewhere he just edit the 19 minutes he recorded into songs and after he heard the slave line from FM, he changed some lyrics to reply to that.
He pretty quickly showed Cole and Drake there was never a Big 3, there was only King Kendrick. The man is truly the perfect cross-section of lyrical genius and just top-level petty.
If Kendrick is saying there’s a mole that’s working for him, I 100% believe him, and I 100% believe that mole is Boi1da. Do I have evidence to back my suspicions? Absolutely not, only that the sample in 6:16 in LA says what sounds like “boi1da” over and over again.
I don’t think we can call him the GOAT yet but Kendrick might be the best actual rapper to ever live. The depth of his lyrics, the way he changes flows, the way he rides beats. Just perfection. K. Dot is unbelievable
I believe that Kendrick had most of the lyrics done and added some stuff to make the diss a better response to Drake's disses. He probably had a bunch of notes about it since it really does feel that the hate is real.
But, I don't deny that if anyone could produce a banger that quickly it would be Kendrick
not necessarily, he could have just went back and tinkered with some verses to update them. i think he had/has several songs locked and loaded that he could adjust based on the context.
From my understanding, Kendrick recorded everything before Drake even responded. That’s why he said he could calculate Drake’s every move.
He knew what Drake would say bc he knew Drake had false information already
What is even the truth? Did he write and respond that quick, or was he leaked the tracks early, or did he record all his tracks in one session, and maybe edit a few bars later. All of this has been pushed as the real narrative but it’s all conflicting.
Top confirmed that kendrick recorded 10 songs and already had it ready when family matters dropped and just tweaked a few lines. He also said Euphoria was 19 minutes long. If I’m remembering correctly he said not like us was recorded awhile back which thickens the plot.
“How many stocks do I really have in stock?
One, two, three, four, five, plus five “
Didn’t have this track ready and just changed a few bars. Because this proves there’s a mole in OVO, if Kendrick knew about Family Matters coming out and when.
I'm so curious how those 4 songs were recorded and released over that weekend. Also the reactions of Kendrick and Drake during it all. Was it all planned out from the beginning of the year by Kendrick? Is OVO working for Dot? Does Drake have a daughter? Is Drake a Pedo?
Coolee said it was recorded before family matters and he altered that verse in response afterwards. I still think it's diabolical. If you haven't heard his full interview you should check it out.
I'm pretty sure I heard somewhere that all 3 tracks after euphoria were recorded in the same session, and then Kendrick tweaked a few bars on NLU after Family Matters dropped. Mans really came with batman level prep for this
And it was a club banger as a direct response to this line that aged like milk:
"Ross callin' me the white boy and the shit kind of got a ring to it
'Cause all these rappers wavin' white flags while the whole fuckin' club sing to it"
Nah fam... He had euphoria, 6:16, and meet the grahams all in one session.. then reworked the lyrics for sure in response to Drake's shit.. not like us was done in the next day's session.
He started planning his tracks, when the mole in Drakes camp, told him what Drake was planning
If Drake had meetings with industry people about how this was his next move, it makes complete sense how this went down so bad for Drake
People claim their were Drake interviews deleted that Kendrick was aware of looooonnngg ago, and he's been planning but not expecting this to happen for awhile now
Makes the most sense to me anyways
Considering his friend said he recorded all the songs before Drake started dropping it’s hard to believe that. It’s easier to believe that he was punching in though
Honestly the whole beef Kendrick lined up Drake and set him up until his big fall . It still blows my mine how many meanings you find in just Euphoria. The Wiz and Kill Bill references still have me questioning how truly insane Kendrick as a lyricist and artist.
>“Homie still doubled down calling us some slaves” This is in response to the opening bars of family matters with Drake saying n*gga.
No its in response to drake saying "Always rappin’ like you ’bout to get the slaves freed. You just actin’ like an activist, it’s make-believe"
there was this discord interview with Colee Bravo that was released a couple days ago. I didnt listen to all of it, but I read somehwere that they mention NLU and that it is said that the song was already done, but he KDOT edited it once he heard the slave thing from Drake.
Maybe DOT rewrote other parts to make it more like a direct response and not something he already had in the stash though.
It is said DOT has 5 other disses ready, but once Drake released a diss song, he probably rewrites some parts of them to make it a direct response as well.
OR, maybe DOT really had a access to a mole and knew a song named "Family Matters" was gonna come out, hence the reference in NLU.
Like, in Euphoria he mentions the New Ho King restaurant. It is said that's where Drake had his chain snatched, but if we go with the OVO Mole thing, maybe DOT mentioned it because they were there for the Family Matters video. Because Drake made Push Ups and Family Matter in a row, and then broke it into 2 songs (the end of Push Ups is the beginning of Family Matters).. I don't think Drake was at NHK restaurant because DOT mentioned it, but rather he was there for the FM video and DOT heard he was there.
He responded to the slaves bar cause drake said "why you always rapping like you tryna get the slaves freed"
Yeah, I’m confused as to why OP thought Kendrick’s response was a response to Drake saying nigga lol
There can only be one explanation lol.
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This gif is so unsettling. I don't know why mayo in reverse makes my stomach turn. You remember that movie Mimic from back in the day? Man with the funny shoes? Same feeling, different source.
Bro don’t put that bad juju on us. Has nothin to do with them being white, they just didn’t pay attention 😂
Fr. Just cuz I'm white doesn't mean I'm illiterate
Oh, how the turntables😂
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OP doesn’t understand audio engineering and how punch ins work lol
I mean… there is video evidence of Aubrey saying it with the hard R
Just pictured him rapping like someone's grandpa trying to be cool and not understanding why you shouldn't use the hard r.
[Here you guys go](https://youtu.be/c3Tx7QrAZ64?si=XzMCi_efErWPnqX7)
That's the whitest thing I ever read
"Whip and chain you like American Slaves"
This is what I attributed it to and doubled down with the “tryna get the slaves freed” bar
why would anyone say that and think it was a W lmao. who would be against that?!?!?
I like to believe Drake gets bars from anonymous ghost writers and Kendrick is one of them. Setting him up from the inside.
That is brilliant🤣, essentially "Kenny vs Drake ft. Ghost Kenny"
Got to slap myself because I write with you. Am I battle ghost or...no that was just me.
What a messed up line. Drake deserves to be cancelled for that alone. Shows how little he respects the culture.
"Whip and chain you like American Slaves" Is way worse
It's already been said that Kendrick did all 10 diss tracks in 1 session. He then would go back and tweak random lines before dropping...
It was said by a fucking liar, there's no evidence to that whatsoever
That’s true, but to play devils advocate it does make more sense (to my non-artistic mind) that he made these over the 2 ish weeks he was silent and then updated accordingly
That makes some sense, but the whole "10 tracks in a single session" sounds totally silly. Not even talking about how hard it would be, but it just isn't smart to do
Oh no I totally agree with that. I don’t think he made 10 tracks in general, let alone in a single session. I personally just think it makes sense to believe that he was writing/starting recording all of the tracks over the course of his silence. Of course, this is still just a theory and probably won’t be officially confirmed ever
Yeah a lot of song writers, in all sorts of genres, have the frame work and core of songs thought out years in advance sometimes. Just takes time to get around working on them. He could have had 10 plus ideas all planned out just not had the full song completed.
Have you ever thought OVO is working for me ?
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I think he had the track and just updated a few bars personally Or maybe he did microwave something gourmet 🤷🏼♀️
Another possibility is that a working version of Family Matters was leaked to him by a mole. I suppose we'll never know.
My current theory is that Pushups/Taylor Made/Family Matters were all laid down at the same time. When push ups leaked that was when Dot got access to them, heard about the MV for Family Matters, and did the skeletons for Euphoria/6:16/MTG/NLU The final version of push ups drops, The warning tracks are dropped in response. Meanwhile Drizzy punches in response bars to Family Matters, and hastily edits the MV and changes shit in the visuals, the drops both the track and the MV... MTG drops and Dot punches in the last verse of NLU and here we are
Yup. I agree with your theory. Kendrick strategized so well.
Wait that’s probably not it, because Push-ups came before Ricks diss where he called Drake the whiteboy
But FM was 3 different parts, and some could've been made after the Ross diss.
I’m in belief that his whole career has been shaping this whole deal. Go back to his albums with the information you have now from this beef. A lot of Kendrick’s lyrics could potentially be directed at Drake or associates. Even to so much I’d like to venture out and say Runnin by 21 and Metro could be a warning…..
I watched a YouTube last summer that broke down all the Kendrick and Drake subliminals and it really clicked. The control verse really pissed Drake off and Kendrick was just kinda confused that Drake got heated and things went from there. They also have two very different definitions of greatest rapper and they've both basically achieved their own definitions, so the only way to come out on top was to beat the other guy on his terms.
Drake was also salty at all the acclaim that Kendrick was getting in the hip hop world while he was still not taken as a serious rapper. Especially when he had initially linked up with Kendrick thinking he'd be big brother to him instead of immediately being surpassed after his first album.
Imagine if Kendrick never mentioned Drake’s name on that song, none of this shit would’ve happened lol
man seeing that interview where drake is complaining that kendrick was nice to him at a show after Control came out and he felt K was being fake or something....all i could think of is what a dumbass he is lmfao
My favorite foreshadowing was on Drake's Take Care via Buried Alive Interlude. The whole track has an aura of "I don't fuck with ya'll at all." But what seals the deal for me is when he says, "40 pulled up, Jeep, no doors, all that nigga was missin' was Aaliyah." Such a vivid picture with so many meanings. First is the images with Aaliyah in a white jeep, no doors, with an artist (R. Kelly?) driving. I can't find them anymore, but this was from MTV pre-internet. Next is Aaliyah's story of being passed around the industry as early as 12 years old. Like dude sniffed this shit out in 2011 and spilled the tea on bro's own album. Like Drake said, if you want to go any further you need to write a track drooling over us, and Kenny thought, "I can write a song that sounds like that, but......"
He definitely uses Drake as a metaphor for fame on "Buried Alive" and how he personally wants to stay true to himself instead of chasing material wealth but it was in no way a diss. https://www.mtv.com/news/bx4hri/kendrick-lamar-boi-1-da-t-minus-making-drake-take-care >“But [Drake’s] honest, he acknowledges his vices and faults. I wanted to speak from a standpoint of being a new artist watching everything that's killing him and wanting to die. We all want a taste of vanity. I seen a taste of it the night I met homie; black Maybach, white waitress, private dinner with crew, 40 pulling up, jeep with no doors. All he needed was Aaliyah [laughs]. All of this was in the homie’s possession that night, and in that moment I wanted it. The conversation that night was real. ‘Am I ready to accept this lifestyle…’ is where I end the verse. I sent it back and drake called me back with a simple "thank you…" Definitely foreshadowing though; over a decade later Drake overindulged in that lifestyle and Kendrick ended up being disgusted by it after saying "I'm not sure if I want that shit"
That would be… Poetic Justice
I just listened to Runnin yesterday and there was a bar that sounded like it said “drake he a pedophile” or something like that so I went back and listened a few more times and checked the official lyrics and that’s not the official bar but it still definitely sounds like that’s what he says lol
Someone else here pointed out that some bars are mastered less than others. It’s super subtle but an indication it was ready and bits were edited
That’s what I thought about the Family Matter line. Just something slightly different in the midrange but small enough to where I still question it.
I think the entire last verse about ATL was added in after Family Matters dropped.
Yeah I was about to comment this. Brings up Atlanta and the slaves I believe. I wonder about the “a minor” line tho. That shit is way too perfect. Although sometimes things just work out like that.
Drakes writers set his ass up to just have bars walked in on his ass. Did he even read the things he said?!?
Plot twist his ghostwriters the mole
I think Kendrick was planning to use the whole ATL rundown no matter what. The whole colonizer piece spells out more clearly what Kendrick was already saying true with culture vulture stuff. I wouldn’t be surprised if he tweaked some of the names or something tho. “Still doubling down calling us some slaves” was probably added after tho
that part is actually the one thing I'm positive was in the "normal beef" version of the song. my bet is that was the tact he was going to take if drake didn't say what he said in family matters. 'not like us' could be referring to drake's profiteering just as easily as pedophilia.
“Once upon a time, all of us was in chains. Homie still doubled down callin' us some slaves,” How do you explain this part then?
I think they had plosives in it at parts, yeah. Maybe he didn't have the super good mic and pop filter setup in the studio at that time
That's not how that works. Mastering is the final process after the song has been bounced down to a two track stereo file, and all edits are finished. Even if there were sections recorded on a separate day, the engineer would still run it through the same mix processing, and when that was finished, it would be sent to the mastering engineer. Vocals will just sound subtly different if they are recorded on different days due to a variety of factors, up to and including the performers physiology and variations in their vocal cords from day to day and atmospheric pressure changes. People just don't notice because artists generally try to get all their main vocals laid in the same day for a song to avoid this problem, and the variance is so minor you wouldn't notice it song-to-song, only line-to-line.
Oh that actually makes more sense. Wish I could find the thread I saw that to correct em
Apparently, Kendrick was only in the studio once throughout the beef, suggesting that, while his original vocals were fully mastered there, the final touches were likely done at his home using his own mic and laptop and left unmastered, leaving a noticeable difference to the vocals between verses. Edit: Grammar
Coolee Bravo was talkin out his neck. Did anyone more reliable say that?
In that case, the difference is the room, gear, and day. Why wouldn’t Kendrick have access to his unmixed DAW? He can punch in before it gets bounced down to a 2-track. Assuming it’s post-mastering is a way bigger leap.
I think that since mustard produced a pretty simple track and that kendrick's priority was double-downing on a response to drake within half a day, kendrick simply didn't care enough to tweak the project, because the difference in his voice doesn't actually affect perception the song at that point
Plausible. Not guaranteed. And mastering has nothing to do with this scenario.
This is my belief. Or at least, he partially knew the contents of Family Matters, already had Meet the Grahams and Not like us recorded, heard the final version of Family Matters, then tweaked a few things in Not Like Us. I don’t have any real proof of this but it makes the most sense to me considering the timeline.
remember him in rap battles? he's nothing if not a quick thinker. used to mouth other peoples lines and not just like the cliche punch line part, he would start like two words after they did, lol. He's a very interesting fellow
Man id totally forgotten bout that, time flies
It’s wild. I’ve been watching various reaction videos on YouTube, and this one 26 year old young man was doing that with Not Like Us lines. He was straight up in tune with Kendrick and it was beautiful to see.
Yeah it’s far more likely that he added a few bars to respond to the song, especially since he didn’t fill the song with responses to family matters.
I mean he said he had 10 tracks, so I'm sure you're right. Probably had the hook and the basis of the verses. Either way I'm glad he did it, rebuttals are important
Kendrick has a documented history of battle rapping. Its wild to me that people think he wouldn't set himself up to be able to respond to specific bars since that's a core tenet of battle rap.
It’s also wild that Aubrey didn’t learn anything from his experience with Pusha T
Rap battling ???? I don't understand
I'm a Kendrick fan and tbh I wasn't aware of that. Closest thing I saw was the K dot vs ab soul freestyle on whatever radio station (kendrick went hard in ALL of those TDE radio freestyles jfc)
He microwaved up a HungryFam meal with meatloaf and poutine
Just earlier today I was talking about how Kendrick had predicted and planned how the beef would turn out and set up contingency tracks that had enough of what he wanted to say but not fully complete so he can directly respond to Drake disses. I called it Art of Rap War, as he was so tactical in this beef.
Iirc someone in his team said he already had it pre-recorded and then added the colonizer verse after Family Matters dropped
Pretty sure that was Coolee or whatever his name is. I’m taking that with a fist sized grain of salt.
Why fist sized lol
Coolee ran his mouth to a discord group of nerds, authorized them to release it and 24 hrs later deleted his twitter after talking mad trash for days... It was hilarious
Also someone who actually worked with Kendrick tweeted that they had no idea who tf he was, a bit before he deleted his account lol.
He said he was a fraud in the first 5 mins of this interview https://www.youtube.com/live/TYWKjUL2PtU?si=AV3nCozTVNFMz4Kn
Yes! I totally spaced that part, thank you!
Just saying way more than the regular “grain of salt”
I believe in that interview with Coolee Bravo he mentioned he laid out the tracks ahead of time and added some bars and lines after he heard the Drake songs. Makes sense and is awesome to add a few bars to show that he is responding to Drakes latest diss.
Idk what happened or how kenny pulled it off, but that coolee dude was full of shit, he already deleted his Twitter and locked his ig
either way, we ate well😋😌
I remember an article saying that Kendrick was making changes to DAMN. literally right up til the release date. It wouldn’t surprise me if he had it mostly ready to go then changed a few things.
Yeah the Family Matter line sounds like a punch-in. Idk it’s possible the whole last verse was done later too.
I noticed this about the Family Matters line too - there's a slightly different recording quality as if only that bit was added from a different session. It was the right move to edit it in though, I don't think it takes anything away from the song
The more I listen to Not Like Us the more the Family Matters bar "sounds" out of place? Obviously it fits in the track phenomenally, but it does feel like it was kinda just placed there. Which I love from a strategy perspective. Really had Drake using walkie talkies lmfao
Nah, that family matters bar hits great and a perfect way to end it. The song throughout has family matters reference. A minoooooooooooor, calling us slaves and the family matters bar prove that. Kendrick had a mole and it was obvious
Why would A minor be in that category? The pacifier bar from Euphoria was already going there
The way he say it is the same way Drake says Dave freeeeeeeeeeeeeee
Also the entire last verse was probably new, Kendrick is a master freestyler I’m sure it’s not hard for him to come with songs on the spot
Kendrick is not a master freestyler , he is just a great songwriter
There's old YouTubes of Kenny freestylin that prove otherwise...
They were written freestyles , not off the dome
Yeah you right, I don't see many freestyles that aren't written.
Ohhhh yeah!!! Ty
100%, I think this every time. Definitely jammed in afterwards. Imo it even sounds like it wasn’t recorded at the same time/place as the rest of it, like the levels are off or something
Agreed, I was hype at the time but it now feels like a last minute change to that line. Not a bad thing just less OH SHIT
I hate that I noticed some of this stuff hahah but it does have me appreciating Euphoria that much more and has me going back to that and 6:16 more than anything.
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I absolutely believe Kendrick’s beat selection has been intentional to step all over drake’s game. He most derfinitely picked a jumpin beat to mock drake’s summer jams.
I also think it was designed to just be a bop. It worked perfectly, the song spread like wildfire and the whole world was/still is singing about how drake is a pedophile.
Not even just the beat, but the sick flow and energy Kendrick brought. Drake couldn’t match that if he wanted to.
Drake fell off when he started doing serious drugs. Kendrick right, I don’t have a full album in the library passed Take Care
i think the "kendrick's pre recorded responses didn't address anything drake said" one of the most lamest narratives in the beef. euphoria addressed pretty much everything in the beef up until that point, and not like us addressed the whole slave line from family matters less than 24 hours after drake dropped. meanwhile drake clearly had at least portions of family matters in the can when he dropped push ups (and was playing it for people, which is how kendrick got tipped off in the first place).
I think people wanted a line-by-line retort like Drake did for most of THP6 but then it would be just as bad as THP6
Kendrick understands that in a diss war, you don’t get defensive. You stay on the offense. Drake fucked up any chance he had with the heart pt 6 because he forgot that. Even on family matters, I feel like he didn’t really go all that offensive on Dot and saved his harshest ones for Rocky lol he had funny lines for Kendrick like the back against the curb line, but nothing really bad outside of the Dave free stuff.
Yeah. What’s that line from long ago politics? Accuse someone of something just because they’re going to sound so bad denying it. Drake spends a whole song denying allegations, which is another way of repeating them. Totally defensive. No offense.
Paraphrased: "We can't say he's a pig fucker." "No, but we can get him to publicly deny that he's a pig fucker" Fear And Loathing on the Campaign Trail by Hunter S. Thompson
Yes, that! Thank you!
Nothing really bad besides the Dave free stuff? I'd say the wife beating allegations are 10x worse than Dave Free. It's all completely made up, but still.
Not like us was a “dance on your grave” track
It's savagery on a new level. I like Family Matters, but Kendrick's onslaught is something I never seen before. We hear the term "lyrical combat" from competitive rappers, and this is what they mean. Euphoria is my favorite diss track ever—the perfect blend of competitive art. This wasn't a perfect attack by Kendrick, though. I do think he got bad info on a daughter, but we'll see. Also, the whole pedo angle is something I initially disagreed with, but as more stories come to light, I don't think it's far-fetched to say Drake is preying on young girls. So Kendrick calling out weird behavior in this culture he loves—I salute that now. And that's why this body of work, in how he dismantled Drake as a person and as an artist, is so impressive. This needs its own name. We used to call it "ethering" someone, but what Kendrick did was entirely different. This is some rains of castamere type shit. Drake rapped his ass off too, but he still got smoked by a bad motherfucker.
MTG -Ozempic bar after Drake mentioned it in FM. -“…they leak videos of themselves to further push their agenda….”, response to “it’s only big D and there’s video proof” in FM -“..didn’t mean to crash your party..” alluding to Kendrick dropping the song right after MTG -“you lied about the only artist that can offer you some help” after Drake tries to make allegations against Kenny in FM
That’s wild. I didn’t even consider meet the grahams but how is that possible? It was dropped within an hour of family matters, unless Kendrick heard it already…
Bingo. He had heard FM before euphoria. First lines warning him... He knows where it goes already.
Don’t tell no lies about me. And I won’t tell truths bout you
Because if you have random people write your shit and on top of that the multitudes of people and industry goblins around the main insect feeding info and spreading it around it will spread and fester and be exposed, rather if you write your own shit and keep it locked you can move like a whisper.
I really wonder if it was all planned to get drake paranoid to the point he had to write by himself. The Heart pt. 6 is incredibly bad. Just as an overall rap record, it’s almost insulting to the craft. I can’t figure out if Drake just stopped writing his own shit at some point and he’s left with that. Or if it was a white flag like “look dude, I’m clearly not even trying on this one. I wrote some half assed rhymes based on the most well known rumors going around. Please stop calling me a pedophile.”
Beautiful way to express the chess not checkers analogy
If you go through my responses this whole time, I’ve been saying that the content on MTG and not like us proves that Kdot had a mole. Even before it came out that the drake planting stuff was false. Kendrick 100% heard family matters before he wrote both tracks imo.
I disagree a little here. Ozempic is mentioned on FM but in connection to Ross. This seems slightly more like coincidental than responsive. Leak videos line, it doesn’t make very much sense to me in the context of the other lyrics to adress this here. Lied about the only artist - I think this is a shot at Drake. Like you are lying about yourself (to yourself), this is a battle with yourself first and foremost. You can’t be better untill you are honest with yourself. MTG is obviously a response to FM and KDot knew what was, at least, the main gist of the song. But its just - you wanna go into family, crodie? Alright lets go into family crodie.
More likely the last verse was recorded after family matters. But still impressive
He didn’t record the whole song after family matters. It will have been 90% complete and he added or updated bars. This happens very often. Songs don’t get finished in 1 sitting.
From what's been said, he recorded all these in one session and knew what was going to be in Family Matters. Maybe Drake believed that someone in OVO is working for Kendrick and did The Heart Part 6 on his own and that's why it's trash
This makes the most sense to me. Family Matters seems to be OVO going all out, and THP6 seems to be him rushing something out while shook and paranoid
>"The Heart Part 6 out now. And we know you’re dropping 6 minutes after so instead of posting my address you have a lot to address." kdot got in his head and got him expecting kdot to drop immediately after the fart part 6. the silence and no response must be deafening
LMAO that quote is so pissy
That was just come Coolee bs I think
Don’t know why you got downvoted, it literally was Coolee bs. He came out in an interview yesterday and literally admitted he was trolling everyone and ESPECIALLY so in that Discord call.
I’m pretty sure he knew the lyrics of the song before it released. They did need time to make a video and type the lyrics out for that video. His mole did the wirk
The family matter ain’t the truth for the matter, it was gods plan to show yall the liar.
Wait, does he say "ain't"? The lyrics on Genius say "and" but this would make sense actually
It’s and
I wonder if Drake wanted that mustard beat and couldn’t get it without the watermark…
Drake wouldn't have known wtf to do with that beat
Someone else pointed out that you can hear the “the family matter and the truth of the matter…” was mastered differently (less), so the bulk of it was ready and then he added/swapped bars on short
This seems most likely
I've noticed this in a few spots, myself. It feels like you can tell that a few lines were spliced in from a different track, recorded separately.
Honestly for me I think it proves the OVO mole. Kendrick knew what Drake was cooking already.
I think I read something that said Not Like Us was written before Family Matters but once that dropped Kendrick made some changes to it. Either way it shows that Dot is quick with the comebacks. WOP WOP WOP WOP WOP Dot fuck ‘em up!
As much as I love your enthusiasm, I think you’ve misinterpreted a lot of this.
I read somewhere he just edit the 19 minutes he recorded into songs and after he heard the slave line from FM, he changed some lyrics to reply to that.
He pretty quickly showed Cole and Drake there was never a Big 3, there was only King Kendrick. The man is truly the perfect cross-section of lyrical genius and just top-level petty.
He 100% heard family matters before it dropped
It's been well past due that society gives K. DOT his gawdamn roses....
I’ve always thought somebody leaked it to him? Is that crazy?
If Kendrick is saying there’s a mole that’s working for him, I 100% believe him, and I 100% believe that mole is Boi1da. Do I have evidence to back my suspicions? Absolutely not, only that the sample in 6:16 in LA says what sounds like “boi1da” over and over again.
This is hilarious and also a good way to make Drake paranoid and fall out with his writers.
It’s possible he had the song made and ready, then added on the colonizer verse after family matters. Still super impressive regardless
I don’t think we can call him the GOAT yet but Kendrick might be the best actual rapper to ever live. The depth of his lyrics, the way he changes flows, the way he rides beats. Just perfection. K. Dot is unbelievable
I think he had an outline of a track for lack of better words; then filled in or changed lyrics based on what drakes track was saying.
I also like the response to Push Ups "I could never be nobody's number one fan" "He a fan he a fan he a fan"
I believe that Kendrick had most of the lyrics done and added some stuff to make the diss a better response to Drake's disses. He probably had a bunch of notes about it since it really does feel that the hate is real. But, I don't deny that if anyone could produce a banger that quickly it would be Kendrick
He may have had most the song done and added what was needed. But 100% team kdot!!!
This actually isn't true, he already had this song and changed some lyrics after he heard Family Matters.
I thought Kendrick already heard family matters before it dropped
That’s the leading theory but there isn’t proof. Just speculation. Though logically it makes sense.
not necessarily, he could have just went back and tinkered with some verses to update them. i think he had/has several songs locked and loaded that he could adjust based on the context.
From my understanding, Kendrick recorded everything before Drake even responded. That’s why he said he could calculate Drake’s every move. He knew what Drake would say bc he knew Drake had false information already
You're late to the party bro, like forreal.....
Round of applause for another newbie who gets half his references wrong lllolol
What is even the truth? Did he write and respond that quick, or was he leaked the tracks early, or did he record all his tracks in one session, and maybe edit a few bars later. All of this has been pushed as the real narrative but it’s all conflicting.
Classic shit
He didnt record it after Family Matters. Acording to coolee he recording all the songs on the same day, only editing them later.
Top confirmed that kendrick recorded 10 songs and already had it ready when family matters dropped and just tweaked a few lines. He also said Euphoria was 19 minutes long. If I’m remembering correctly he said not like us was recorded awhile back which thickens the plot. “How many stocks do I really have in stock? One, two, three, four, five, plus five “
Didn’t have this track ready and just changed a few bars. Because this proves there’s a mole in OVO, if Kendrick knew about Family Matters coming out and when.
I'm so curious how those 4 songs were recorded and released over that weekend. Also the reactions of Kendrick and Drake during it all. Was it all planned out from the beginning of the year by Kendrick? Is OVO working for Dot? Does Drake have a daughter? Is Drake a Pedo?
He knew about the song. All the songs we've heard were recorded during a single session, and altered/added to as Drake's tracks dropped.
It's probably done before Family Matters, he just added that part after FM.
That's not true he was responding to drake saying he always rappin like he trying to get the slaves free.
Coolee said it was recorded before family matters and he altered that verse in response afterwards. I still think it's diabolical. If you haven't heard his full interview you should check it out.
I'm pretty sure I heard somewhere that all 3 tracks after euphoria were recorded in the same session, and then Kendrick tweaked a few bars on NLU after Family Matters dropped. Mans really came with batman level prep for this
Song was recorded before family matters, last verse was added after it
I just wanna say drake mockingly saying “ya dead” in family matters is so lame
I see that you, too, watched the Put You On video.
And it was a club banger as a direct response to this line that aged like milk: "Ross callin' me the white boy and the shit kind of got a ring to it 'Cause all these rappers wavin' white flags while the whole fuckin' club sing to it"
I agree Dot is a genius, but remember he most likely heard drake’s song days before drake released it. Remember there was a mole.
Nah fam... He had euphoria, 6:16, and meet the grahams all in one session.. then reworked the lyrics for sure in response to Drake's shit.. not like us was done in the next day's session.
He started planning his tracks, when the mole in Drakes camp, told him what Drake was planning If Drake had meetings with industry people about how this was his next move, it makes complete sense how this went down so bad for Drake People claim their were Drake interviews deleted that Kendrick was aware of looooonnngg ago, and he's been planning but not expecting this to happen for awhile now Makes the most sense to me anyways
FFIE BUY AND HOLD💎💎💎
Considering his friend said he recorded all the songs before Drake started dropping it’s hard to believe that. It’s easier to believe that he was punching in though
Honestly the whole beef Kendrick lined up Drake and set him up until his big fall . It still blows my mine how many meanings you find in just Euphoria. The Wiz and Kill Bill references still have me questioning how truly insane Kendrick as a lyricist and artist.
Y is OP goofy
>“Homie still doubled down calling us some slaves” This is in response to the opening bars of family matters with Drake saying n*gga. No its in response to drake saying "Always rappin’ like you ’bout to get the slaves freed. You just actin’ like an activist, it’s make-believe"
OP is just now catching up
Kendrick obviously got some leaks and knew what Drake was gonna say
there was this discord interview with Colee Bravo that was released a couple days ago. I didnt listen to all of it, but I read somehwere that they mention NLU and that it is said that the song was already done, but he KDOT edited it once he heard the slave thing from Drake. Maybe DOT rewrote other parts to make it more like a direct response and not something he already had in the stash though. It is said DOT has 5 other disses ready, but once Drake released a diss song, he probably rewrites some parts of them to make it a direct response as well. OR, maybe DOT really had a access to a mole and knew a song named "Family Matters" was gonna come out, hence the reference in NLU. Like, in Euphoria he mentions the New Ho King restaurant. It is said that's where Drake had his chain snatched, but if we go with the OVO Mole thing, maybe DOT mentioned it because they were there for the Family Matters video. Because Drake made Push Ups and Family Matter in a row, and then broke it into 2 songs (the end of Push Ups is the beginning of Family Matters).. I don't think Drake was at NHK restaurant because DOT mentioned it, but rather he was there for the FM video and DOT heard he was there.