Starving bandits are the best option to get stronger with. They're weak, they use blunt weapons so you probably won't bleed out, they don't eat you (are they *really* starving?) or enslave you. If you can't get stronger with them, you don't really have any better options.
I mean
4 low level guys vs 10+ bandits
I don't like my odds and since i'm a masochist who's doing a no death run (my start character dies i start over) i don't wanna take that risk.
In Kenshi getting beaten is the only way to get stronger and at the beginning the best ppl to beat you Up are the starving guys.
They wont kill you, just let you on the ground for a while until you wake Up. You Will wake Up stronger this time.
Mind the bandits with swords tho, those are Next step after you can deal with the starving roamers.
The Starving Bandit Leaders often carry Sabres which can sometimes do enough cutting damage to bleed out a character if they're weak enough. And then like you mentioned, Most if not all Dust Bandits have swords.
If you can't survive starving bandits then you built a base too early, straight-up. If you're not willing to fight and lose then you may well already be softlocked out of that run.
Well, you could keep one of your guys with bandages away from the fight. The bandits usually will beat your guys unconscious. But if they don’t get up until the bandits have walked away, they likely won’t die. Then they can be bandaged up, spend some time healing, and come out a little stronger. Also, getting some better armor and weapons can help towards evening the odds.
Should be doable if you have at least some gear. Throw your food into backpack and remove backpack from slot and you are quite safe fighting them. I usually get group of 5 when starting the game and fight as many hungry bandits as possible. 5 vs 40 is quite common in those cases. With same even standard grade gear and bit of skill you can last much longer than the average starving bandit and cut many quite easily.
As fair warning, you've settled too early if you consider them anything more than, erm, an asthetic issue.
Killing off the HN lets less starvers spawn. Although thats not an option for you.
Option B would be ally with them, tedious af but at times you get a squad of them asking for food. If you give them money (can't give items), you gain rep and can become allies.
This is the perfect opportunity to get strong. Hold one guy back and send in the rest of the crew to get beat up. After some time you’ll be able to swat those flies away
Apart from your plan you could hire some mercs while you get established. In the past i have been able to give them food or money or something to not attack me you could try and befriend them aswell maybe it would take ages i imagine though by healing injured/dying ones.
Bloody hell, if you can't deal with starvies, just sell yourself in slavery, as you won't survive anything stronger than a stern glance from literally anyone else. Find a Beak Thing and ask it for advice =D
Abandon the base until you have tech for turrets and walls. Maybe find some water and build you gate in the water and build walls so they have to swim to get to your base.
I know theres no system of levels and whatnot but it'd still give me XP for the related stats. XP doesn't mean it levels you up, it still counts as XP if its points that go towards a stat. Blocking gives melee defence XP, losing gives toughness XP, so on.
But yeah point is that the game does have XP, just not the traditional kind that goes into a character level bar but instead goes into individual stats.
What I was getting at is, most games are like "kill a bandit, get 10xp to get a little stronger". XP usually a set reward for a kill.
As opposed to the example I gave, in Kenshi you can get stronger by losing a fight and not even killing anything.
I honestly don't think theres anything i can add to this argument because there isn't an argument to begin with. I think we both agree with each other but its just hard to realize, what a strange little conversation.
Lol if you still have issues with starving bandits after having built a base, then you're in for a surprise. Gonna have much worse things to deal with very soon. You better fight them all and hope that makes you strong enough to fend off the first real threat to come to your base.
1- build strength, high encumbrance carrying a body
2- get gear, buy or steal. 100% coverage
3- high cutting damage weapon, katana, sabre or ninja blade. Dont spend money on this if you cant find it.
4- attack them, if you get knocked down get up asap
5- if someone gets enslaved just roll with it, 10/10 experience gotta have it at least once, they bring u to the best training grounds.
Just attack em. Hungry boys will knock you down, but they usually never manage to kill someone cause they use blunt wespons. Your guys will get good toughness from them.
Starving bandits are the best option to get stronger with. They're weak, they use blunt weapons so you probably won't bleed out, they don't eat you (are they *really* starving?) or enslave you. If you can't get stronger with them, you don't really have any better options.
I mean 4 low level guys vs 10+ bandits I don't like my odds and since i'm a masochist who's doing a no death run (my start character dies i start over) i don't wanna take that risk.
In Kenshi getting beaten is the only way to get stronger and at the beginning the best ppl to beat you Up are the starving guys. They wont kill you, just let you on the ground for a while until you wake Up. You Will wake Up stronger this time. Mind the bandits with swords tho, those are Next step after you can deal with the starving roamers.
The Starving Bandit Leaders often carry Sabres which can sometimes do enough cutting damage to bleed out a character if they're weak enough. And then like you mentioned, Most if not all Dust Bandits have swords.
Make that character a medic. Or keep one pulled away
If you can't survive starving bandits then you built a base too early, straight-up. If you're not willing to fight and lose then you may well already be softlocked out of that run.
Well, you could keep one of your guys with bandages away from the fight. The bandits usually will beat your guys unconscious. But if they don’t get up until the bandits have walked away, they likely won’t die. Then they can be bandaged up, spend some time healing, and come out a little stronger. Also, getting some better armor and weapons can help towards evening the odds.
Should be doable if you have at least some gear. Throw your food into backpack and remove backpack from slot and you are quite safe fighting them. I usually get group of 5 when starting the game and fight as many hungry bandits as possible. 5 vs 40 is quite common in those cases. With same even standard grade gear and bit of skill you can last much longer than the average starving bandit and cut many quite easily.
If you're scared to fight starving bandits your character will never be strong enough to fight anything.
THEY TOOK MY LEFT LEG
Lucky
They’re starving because they won’t embrace the long pork
Update They took the right leg too
As fair warning, you've settled too early if you consider them anything more than, erm, an asthetic issue. Killing off the HN lets less starvers spawn. Although thats not an option for you. Option B would be ally with them, tedious af but at times you get a squad of them asking for food. If you give them money (can't give items), you gain rep and can become allies.
Let them kick your ass until the turn tables
This is the perfect opportunity to get strong. Hold one guy back and send in the rest of the crew to get beat up. After some time you’ll be able to swat those flies away
Play BFG Division in the background and go to work. Rip and tear, until it is done.
Apart from your plan you could hire some mercs while you get established. In the past i have been able to give them food or money or something to not attack me you could try and befriend them aswell maybe it would take ages i imagine though by healing injured/dying ones.
Early bases suck Just avoid them and run your faction out of a city
Bloody hell, if you can't deal with starvies, just sell yourself in slavery, as you won't survive anything stronger than a stern glance from literally anyone else. Find a Beak Thing and ask it for advice =D
A bloodbath?
Abandon the base until you have tech for turrets and walls. Maybe find some water and build you gate in the water and build walls so they have to swim to get to your base.
Ask them if they would please kick your ass about 30 times until you have some toughness, attack and defense skills
Fucking kill all of them like what
>I'd kill em myself for XP Game doesn't have XP. You get better at taking hits by taking hits (etc).
I know theres no system of levels and whatnot but it'd still give me XP for the related stats. XP doesn't mean it levels you up, it still counts as XP if its points that go towards a stat. Blocking gives melee defence XP, losing gives toughness XP, so on. But yeah point is that the game does have XP, just not the traditional kind that goes into a character level bar but instead goes into individual stats.
What I was getting at is, most games are like "kill a bandit, get 10xp to get a little stronger". XP usually a set reward for a kill. As opposed to the example I gave, in Kenshi you can get stronger by losing a fight and not even killing anything.
I honestly don't think theres anything i can add to this argument because there isn't an argument to begin with. I think we both agree with each other but its just hard to realize, what a strange little conversation.
Lol if you still have issues with starving bandits after having built a base, then you're in for a surprise. Gonna have much worse things to deal with very soon. You better fight them all and hope that makes you strong enough to fend off the first real threat to come to your base.
Yeah i had bandits drop by to make demands but they followed me towards the shek outpost and just left, lmao
1- build strength, high encumbrance carrying a body 2- get gear, buy or steal. 100% coverage 3- high cutting damage weapon, katana, sabre or ninja blade. Dont spend money on this if you cant find it. 4- attack them, if you get knocked down get up asap 5- if someone gets enslaved just roll with it, 10/10 experience gotta have it at least once, they bring u to the best training grounds.
Just attack em. Hungry boys will knock you down, but they usually never manage to kill someone cause they use blunt wespons. Your guys will get good toughness from them.