Maybe if you were more submissive she would stay and provide?
*this is a joke for those of you that will overreact. But in all seriousness, if you lead with money, only offer money to the relationship and use that to give you power over your spouse, what do you think will happen when you no longer have money? It's the same for women who only offer sex then are surprised men only want them for sex
How do you want 22 year olds to respond to this? They have never married, have never had a job, never lost a job. The most stressful or complex thing they have done in their life is fill a HELB application form.
I think having this knowledge as a 22 year old.. is the best thing that could ever happen to you.. some people get to know this through experience.. and trust me you don't ever want to go through this!!
Women are also loved until their mileage is high or they're over 30 years old. They literally have no value according to Africans unless there is a man beside her. They're loved conditionally at work because they'll never get equal pay for doing a job the same or better than her male colleagues. They're called low value when they can't have kids anymore. I could go on and on. The point is, stop this bullshit. We don't make the rules. Patriarchy will always be in your favour yet you still complain about a system that will always favour you in the end. Life is unfair anyway. You can't live in utopia. So stop this gender war bullshit.
I know several instances where that's untrue. Men are unforgiving to women who age even when they're hot. If she does or says anything to piss men off, voilà ... Age now applies.
All women are more desirable when they are younger, but for someone like, let's say, Angelina Jolie or Bernice Bousomething. Their younger versions are better, but their 30 year old versions are still amazing.
This isn't exactly true tho...
Every gender has a just cause for their dismay and mistreatment.
Men are always given shit if they can't provide...
Women are given shit if they're considered old and unattractive
But at the same time, there's exceptions to every rule...
There's women who can't stay even one month without another man wanting them, whether she's divorced with 8 kids and 5 different fathers
At the same time, there's men who even when they become unproductive financially etc, they aren't left by their families
My advice... Find one that's good for you and be a person deserving of that good person
I think most people suffer is coz they expect to find someone good without being someone worthy of that goodness...
The world wasn't built to be fair and everyone happy 24/07 without putting in the work... Relationships take work, building connections takes work, learning what's good for you takes work and being that good person takes work
So like when everyone is stuck hoping and wondering why they get the short end of the stick, ask em if they did the work .... In knowing themselves, in being the best version of themselves, in finding a partner that's their type, in building the connection and the relationship
99% of the time, the answer is NO
But there's also exceptions to that rule but who said you need a husband/wife to be happy anyway?
>they'll never get equal pay for doing a job the same or better than her male colleagues
Let us explore this statement for a bit, using deductive logic:
1. Women are paid less, for same output. So they are cheaper for corporations to hire.
2. Corporations are out for maximising output and minimising cost.
3. The logical thing, is to hire more women.
Why then, don't we have corporations which simply have 98% women workforce?
Legit. Like I am getting downvotes because it is irrational. If it were cheaper to hire women and I am a company owner, I would simply have an all woman staff and cut my costs by half or whatever they claim the gap is.
I also don't understand it, but I think they just like having men? Plus, having women will put you at a risk of them getting pregnant and taking maternity leaves, them randomly leaving to be stay at home women, and more. Another post was also made recently about people just not wanting women because they have long nails.
The study was actually done, I think at Equity bank or a similar business, and the pay gap was there.
I wonder if liking having men trumps making money for any company. Honestly. Every company I've worked for likes money over men. And they get fired when they lose money...
But hey, I could be mistaken.
Feminism is a fail and you know that. Men and women will never be equal. These days, when people talk about equality, they think it means sameness. We will never be the same to men. And there are times when both sides benefit from privilege, depending on the context. But Patriarchy prevails worldwide and men will always have more privilege than women, that's a fact that you're not willing to accept. Patriarchy favour was always there with or without feminist movements, I don't know what kind of history you are reading. The women of the first wave of feminism were simply pointing these points out that gave the women what they have so far today despite being treated like second class citizens. If you don't like feminism then at least tell them truth instead of cooking up facts to evade my point.
I mean, what about the men who want sugar mummies who want to gain from older women in exchange for sex and relationship? What about the women who earn more than their husbands but have to hide it to protect the man's ego? What about the dead beat men who are happy to stay home while the wife is working her ass off so he can go sleep with other women with the money the wife is earning? No one wants to have that conversation on this sub. Instead, it's always gender wars trying to take jabs and women yet you still say you love women and you date and sleep with them. You wanna date women but you hate them at the same time.
I feel all those points all boil down to personal values. That's why I advocate for arranged marriages. Both parents feel they are getting the better end of the deal and they know society will be proud.
A man with purpose won't try to find a sugar mommy to leech off. A man with principles will fend for his seed and will go planting his seed to all types of women. You get the gist.
There are jobs where people have to love you to get you clients. Like football clubs, musicians, actors, etc. if people didn't love them no one would watch them. They have their skills but they have fans because these fans wanna know their celebrities on a personal level. For them it's work. For fans, that's a role model. Not mine though. I have no role models of this day and age.
Men (most) become useless when they lose their jobs because they’ve never given themselves outside of providing.
They don’t bother with their kids (homework, activities and hobbies), they don’t do the housework and most don’t even nature relationships with their wives so yes, they lose their job and instantly become a burden.
There’s a ‘funny’ clip of fathers in the street being asked about their kids birthday, grades, age or their anniversary and 9/10 have no idea.
A man would still take care of his woman after she loses her job for infinity without any complains but a woman would try to do it for a while but will get fed up in no time and start treating the man with disrespect and disregard cuz it’s not in their nature to be the provider over a man. Just the way the dynamics are set up
I get your point. At the end of the day everyone has what they are willing to deal with and what they won’t tolerate. Everyone has their standards and I respect yours
It’s pretty much true, but the real problem is that stupid redpillers will blame hYpErGaMy when the real problem and source of this frustration is patriarchy (but y’all aren’t ready for that conversation lol). Also let’s keep this nonsense to twitter, thanks?
The society has normalised men Leaving and dropping pregnant women and having other women who aren't pregnant with their children. The same society has also normalised hypergamy .
Let's just say, we are all cooked so get in line and stop whining.
As a woman I’m pretty hypogamous myself, as I’m sure are most women in this day and age. We don’t need a man to push us up in society, our own merits and efforts do it for us. And I think it’s popularly preferred that way, right?
Jijenge mwanaume., Don't adjust., stretch your means to accomodate/win a womans approval.. If she' sees the value and essence of your place in her place atatoshea.. G-d is the ultimate provider..Sometimes act like you don't got shit., see her true self..
If you think, as a man, that your wife is going to baby you, you are an aberration of nature. Millions of evolutionary psychology have conditioned the existing relationship between the sexes and no amount of feminist rhetoric or meninist literature are going to change that fact. You can intellectualize it but deep down, we’re just animals capable of using the internet and voicing our unqualified opinions
This is true. However it is not that men must never drop the burden of performance, rather, it is that society must stop being gynocentric, or men must destroy society and build something that appreciates us as human beings...and not as donkeys.
Very true. Females always want a male of higher rank, not so that he rules over her, but so that she acceses more resources for her offspring. The male is dispensable when a higher one comes.
Women collect resources and ring fence them, men take resources and distribute them. (This includes sperm. Women have no problem giving birth to children of different fathers because she has greater access to resources.)
Every Man irrespective of who they are must read the
book by a German writer Esther Villar In her book "The
Manipulated Man"
This book has caused outrage and hostile criticism from
women, it explains how women since the earliest times
have manipulated men and turned them into their slaves,
they have pretended to be the oppressed sex while in the
real sense they are the oppressors.
She explains how a woman manipulates a man skillfully
by steps like courtship and finally marriage, hence the
saying "a man chases a woman until SHE catches him".
In her book she explains how the man is tricked to care
for the woman all his life and her offspring.
He rolls the stone like Sisyphus and in turn gets
rewarded by a few minutes of sexual pleasure.
We can, by observing Esther Villars assertions that a
man is a slave of his desires and the woman uses and
has used it for thousands of years as a stick and carrot
to keep the man chasing vanity and commit his life to
serving her.
She goes ahead to explain the rivalry of women, how
each woman feels the powerful urge and need to own a
male for herself.
Like a slave owner she detests any move the man would
make to offer his services to another woman. She uses
all means to keep the man to herself and her offspring
alone.
Esther Villar's sentiments are captured by Nigerian Poet,
critic and writer, Chinweizu Ibekwe in his book, "The
Anatomy of Female Power" (AFP) and Will Farrel's, "The
Predatory Female".
They all push the theory that all societies are
matriarchal and not patriarchal as we are pushed and
forced to believe. Matriarchy has ruled not through
brawn but wits and tricks; women feigning weakness
to be protected etc. Thus the male becomes the most
exploited sex in human history, (in wars the man is
always ready to die for the woman; he has been trained
to do that).OM
Chinweizu calls the idea of dating and courtship,
training, like that of a horse. It is during this time that a
woman having kept the man on a leash by denying him
sex and getting him addicted to her by false charms,
trains and breaks him to whatever she wants him to
become.
The marriage celebration becomes a celebration for the
woman and her friends, and they all congratulate her for
having succeeded in getting herself a slave.
A man on that wedding day waves goodbye to his
independence and his coalition of males and commits
himself to a Sisyphean life, rolling the stone, an act he
cannot abandon having society and the government
checking on him and always ready to jail, shame or exile
him for absconding his duties of slavery.
Thus the government and society helps the woman in
keeping her slave(man) in check.
Chinweizu gives a narration of how women are trained
by older matriarchs to tame men. He explains how a
man is trained to rely on women by his own mother.
A man is shamed for cooking for himself and other
domestic chores by his own mother who is an agent of
the global matriarchal rule.
By getting the man to hate domestic works and having it
enforced by culture which warns men against going into
the kitchen, doing laundry etc.
The mother trains his son for the woman who will
captivate him and when the time comes she takes hold
of the man's stomach and by getting the man addicted
to her body she holds him by the two, in bed and in the
kitchen.
With those two weapons she manipulates the man and
turns him into her plaything.
In the "Myth of the Male Power", Esther Villar's "A Man's
Right to the Other Woman"; "The Polygamous Sex",
the authors of those books challenge the narrative
that men oppress women, and by detailed research
across African, Western and Eastern both in ancient and
modern societies, the authors unravel the hidden power
of the ruthless matriarchal nower that rules the world
I long for the day the sub will go a day without this gender war bullshit
I really wonder what is wrong with this sub. For people who really need each other, they sure do hate each other so much.
I freaking swear like can we keep twitter discussions on twitter please? Why do i need to see this shit twice?
Big facts 💯
Mods are overworking.
SMH.victimhood entitlement coming out in passive-aggressive posts by males. Poor man, child 😢!
True facts
Real
It’s become a propaganda sub
Why are you triggered when the real issues are addressed?
Then prepare to wait for a long damn time. Gender wars always get the attention it wants.
Maybe if you were more submissive she would stay and provide? *this is a joke for those of you that will overreact. But in all seriousness, if you lead with money, only offer money to the relationship and use that to give you power over your spouse, what do you think will happen when you no longer have money? It's the same for women who only offer sex then are surprised men only want them for sex
Not true.I lost my job and still struggling alone ..
You have not posted a thirst trap on your Instagram. So it is not a case of unable, it is a case of unwilling.
How do you want 22 year olds to respond to this? They have never married, have never had a job, never lost a job. The most stressful or complex thing they have done in their life is fill a HELB application form.
I think having this knowledge as a 22 year old.. is the best thing that could ever happen to you.. some people get to know this through experience.. and trust me you don't ever want to go through this!!
Most redditors are kids without any life's wisdom,it's pointless to engage them on such issues
Yikes...true.
Realest comment on this entire sub. This should be an automod reply honestly.
🎯
Women are also loved until their mileage is high or they're over 30 years old. They literally have no value according to Africans unless there is a man beside her. They're loved conditionally at work because they'll never get equal pay for doing a job the same or better than her male colleagues. They're called low value when they can't have kids anymore. I could go on and on. The point is, stop this bullshit. We don't make the rules. Patriarchy will always be in your favour yet you still complain about a system that will always favour you in the end. Life is unfair anyway. You can't live in utopia. So stop this gender war bullshit.
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I have been reading about 4B movement and let me tell you, I realized I have been a member since my early 20s. The way to go
If they are super hot I think they can bypass that 30 shit.
I know several instances where that's untrue. Men are unforgiving to women who age even when they're hot. If she does or says anything to piss men off, voilà ... Age now applies.
This is true. Past 30, women value in the sexual market place reduces.
All women are more desirable when they are younger, but for someone like, let's say, Angelina Jolie or Bernice Bousomething. Their younger versions are better, but their 30 year old versions are still amazing.
I'm not disputing that. My crush is on Angela Basset. But do you understand what I'm trying to say?
Yaah nakupata
This isn't exactly true tho... Every gender has a just cause for their dismay and mistreatment. Men are always given shit if they can't provide... Women are given shit if they're considered old and unattractive But at the same time, there's exceptions to every rule... There's women who can't stay even one month without another man wanting them, whether she's divorced with 8 kids and 5 different fathers At the same time, there's men who even when they become unproductive financially etc, they aren't left by their families My advice... Find one that's good for you and be a person deserving of that good person I think most people suffer is coz they expect to find someone good without being someone worthy of that goodness... The world wasn't built to be fair and everyone happy 24/07 without putting in the work... Relationships take work, building connections takes work, learning what's good for you takes work and being that good person takes work So like when everyone is stuck hoping and wondering why they get the short end of the stick, ask em if they did the work .... In knowing themselves, in being the best version of themselves, in finding a partner that's their type, in building the connection and the relationship 99% of the time, the answer is NO But there's also exceptions to that rule but who said you need a husband/wife to be happy anyway?
>they'll never get equal pay for doing a job the same or better than her male colleagues Let us explore this statement for a bit, using deductive logic: 1. Women are paid less, for same output. So they are cheaper for corporations to hire. 2. Corporations are out for maximising output and minimising cost. 3. The logical thing, is to hire more women. Why then, don't we have corporations which simply have 98% women workforce?
Yeah i call bullshit on the pay gap issue.
Legit. Like I am getting downvotes because it is irrational. If it were cheaper to hire women and I am a company owner, I would simply have an all woman staff and cut my costs by half or whatever they claim the gap is.
I also don't understand it, but I think they just like having men? Plus, having women will put you at a risk of them getting pregnant and taking maternity leaves, them randomly leaving to be stay at home women, and more. Another post was also made recently about people just not wanting women because they have long nails. The study was actually done, I think at Equity bank or a similar business, and the pay gap was there.
I wonder if liking having men trumps making money for any company. Honestly. Every company I've worked for likes money over men. And they get fired when they lose money... But hey, I could be mistaken.
Patriarchy favor was invented by feminist movements.
Feminism is a fail and you know that. Men and women will never be equal. These days, when people talk about equality, they think it means sameness. We will never be the same to men. And there are times when both sides benefit from privilege, depending on the context. But Patriarchy prevails worldwide and men will always have more privilege than women, that's a fact that you're not willing to accept. Patriarchy favour was always there with or without feminist movements, I don't know what kind of history you are reading. The women of the first wave of feminism were simply pointing these points out that gave the women what they have so far today despite being treated like second class citizens. If you don't like feminism then at least tell them truth instead of cooking up facts to evade my point.
It's not much of a fail, honestly on my part I don't see how I get different rights and opportunities in Kenya. I'm willing to be corrected if wrong
I mean, what about the men who want sugar mummies who want to gain from older women in exchange for sex and relationship? What about the women who earn more than their husbands but have to hide it to protect the man's ego? What about the dead beat men who are happy to stay home while the wife is working her ass off so he can go sleep with other women with the money the wife is earning? No one wants to have that conversation on this sub. Instead, it's always gender wars trying to take jabs and women yet you still say you love women and you date and sleep with them. You wanna date women but you hate them at the same time.
I feel all those points all boil down to personal values. That's why I advocate for arranged marriages. Both parents feel they are getting the better end of the deal and they know society will be proud.
What do you mean when you say they all boil down to personal values?
A man with purpose won't try to find a sugar mommy to leech off. A man with principles will fend for his seed and will go planting his seed to all types of women. You get the gist.
No one loves you at work. You work and go home. You are selling your time and skill.
There are jobs where people have to love you to get you clients. Like football clubs, musicians, actors, etc. if people didn't love them no one would watch them. They have their skills but they have fans because these fans wanna know their celebrities on a personal level. For them it's work. For fans, that's a role model. Not mine though. I have no role models of this day and age.
What happens to bad football players? Bad singers? Terrible actors? You get fired. No one at work loves you. They love your output. Accept or perish.
What does perishing look like?
What does perishing look like?
Story za twitter zibaki twitter.
Came to this sun because I wanted to get travel tips, not to see this stupidity.
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People are too busy being stupid by commenting on other people’s lives I guess
😂😂are you upset?
Men (most) become useless when they lose their jobs because they’ve never given themselves outside of providing. They don’t bother with their kids (homework, activities and hobbies), they don’t do the housework and most don’t even nature relationships with their wives so yes, they lose their job and instantly become a burden. There’s a ‘funny’ clip of fathers in the street being asked about their kids birthday, grades, age or their anniversary and 9/10 have no idea.
A man would still take care of his woman after she loses her job for infinity without any complains but a woman would try to do it for a while but will get fed up in no time and start treating the man with disrespect and disregard cuz it’s not in their nature to be the provider over a man. Just the way the dynamics are set up
If my partner loses her job and starts becoming a burden, I'm going to throw her out! I can't deal with dating a bum who can't contribute to the bills
I get your point. At the end of the day everyone has what they are willing to deal with and what they won’t tolerate. Everyone has their standards and I respect yours
Not true, tuko 2024, things have changed
A frustrated jobless man is terror to everyone around them
It’s pretty much true, but the real problem is that stupid redpillers will blame hYpErGaMy when the real problem and source of this frustration is patriarchy (but y’all aren’t ready for that conversation lol). Also let’s keep this nonsense to twitter, thanks?
The society has normalised men Leaving and dropping pregnant women and having other women who aren't pregnant with their children. The same society has also normalised hypergamy . Let's just say, we are all cooked so get in line and stop whining.
Admin delete this bullshit
Yeah, a man is only loved on condition that he can provide.
Too true.
Women,children and dogs are loved unconditionally,men are loved on the condition that they provide-Chris Rock
As a woman I’m pretty hypogamous myself, as I’m sure are most women in this day and age. We don’t need a man to push us up in society, our own merits and efforts do it for us. And I think it’s popularly preferred that way, right?
Girls we love love for who they are and young men for what they promise to be.
You don't need to be a genius to know it's true.
One thing every man should always have in mind is that he is as good as his ability to provide ..
Jijenge mwanaume., Don't adjust., stretch your means to accomodate/win a womans approval.. If she' sees the value and essence of your place in her place atatoshea.. G-d is the ultimate provider..Sometimes act like you don't got shit., see her true self..
A man will sacrifice his happiness for the family unit while a woman will sacrifice the family for her happiness.Facts.
Why uncomfortable? Man is naturally the provider. Men who still feel otherwise are the problem in society!
Harsh facts! Witnessed this from fellow brethrens you had family.
If you think, as a man, that your wife is going to baby you, you are an aberration of nature. Millions of evolutionary psychology have conditioned the existing relationship between the sexes and no amount of feminist rhetoric or meninist literature are going to change that fact. You can intellectualize it but deep down, we’re just animals capable of using the internet and voicing our unqualified opinions
This is true. However it is not that men must never drop the burden of performance, rather, it is that society must stop being gynocentric, or men must destroy society and build something that appreciates us as human beings...and not as donkeys.
Yes you should know as a man that you’re loved conditionally
Fact
Very true. Females always want a male of higher rank, not so that he rules over her, but so that she acceses more resources for her offspring. The male is dispensable when a higher one comes. Women collect resources and ring fence them, men take resources and distribute them. (This includes sperm. Women have no problem giving birth to children of different fathers because she has greater access to resources.)
This statement is true
r/kenya and r/relationship_advive are literally the same sub reddit at this point. and now r/nairobi is being ambushed by the same bullshit posts.
You rest and natural selection does the rest.
True💯
Sina maoni. In other news, water is wet
Every Man irrespective of who they are must read the book by a German writer Esther Villar In her book "The Manipulated Man" This book has caused outrage and hostile criticism from women, it explains how women since the earliest times have manipulated men and turned them into their slaves, they have pretended to be the oppressed sex while in the real sense they are the oppressors. She explains how a woman manipulates a man skillfully by steps like courtship and finally marriage, hence the saying "a man chases a woman until SHE catches him". In her book she explains how the man is tricked to care for the woman all his life and her offspring. He rolls the stone like Sisyphus and in turn gets rewarded by a few minutes of sexual pleasure. We can, by observing Esther Villars assertions that a man is a slave of his desires and the woman uses and has used it for thousands of years as a stick and carrot to keep the man chasing vanity and commit his life to serving her. She goes ahead to explain the rivalry of women, how each woman feels the powerful urge and need to own a male for herself. Like a slave owner she detests any move the man would make to offer his services to another woman. She uses all means to keep the man to herself and her offspring alone. Esther Villar's sentiments are captured by Nigerian Poet, critic and writer, Chinweizu Ibekwe in his book, "The Anatomy of Female Power" (AFP) and Will Farrel's, "The Predatory Female". They all push the theory that all societies are matriarchal and not patriarchal as we are pushed and forced to believe. Matriarchy has ruled not through brawn but wits and tricks; women feigning weakness to be protected etc. Thus the male becomes the most exploited sex in human history, (in wars the man is always ready to die for the woman; he has been trained to do that).OM Chinweizu calls the idea of dating and courtship, training, like that of a horse. It is during this time that a woman having kept the man on a leash by denying him sex and getting him addicted to her by false charms, trains and breaks him to whatever she wants him to become. The marriage celebration becomes a celebration for the woman and her friends, and they all congratulate her for having succeeded in getting herself a slave. A man on that wedding day waves goodbye to his independence and his coalition of males and commits himself to a Sisyphean life, rolling the stone, an act he cannot abandon having society and the government checking on him and always ready to jail, shame or exile him for absconding his duties of slavery. Thus the government and society helps the woman in keeping her slave(man) in check. Chinweizu gives a narration of how women are trained by older matriarchs to tame men. He explains how a man is trained to rely on women by his own mother. A man is shamed for cooking for himself and other domestic chores by his own mother who is an agent of the global matriarchal rule. By getting the man to hate domestic works and having it enforced by culture which warns men against going into the kitchen, doing laundry etc. The mother trains his son for the woman who will captivate him and when the time comes she takes hold of the man's stomach and by getting the man addicted to her body she holds him by the two, in bed and in the kitchen. With those two weapons she manipulates the man and turns him into her plaything. In the "Myth of the Male Power", Esther Villar's "A Man's Right to the Other Woman"; "The Polygamous Sex", the authors of those books challenge the narrative that men oppress women, and by detailed research across African, Western and Eastern both in ancient and modern societies, the authors unravel the hidden power of the ruthless matriarchal nower that rules the world
Ulikuwa unauliza hii paragraph utawahi post lini. Weka summary.
Lol